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If you want to be a part of the program, the big news of the day is we have been telling you a judge would have to sign off on this, you know, sweetheart slap on the wrist plea deal with with Hunter Biden as it relates to two misdemeanor tax charges and a gun diversion program.
Uh.
This same judge, ironically, somebody with the same exact circumstances as Hunter Biden had put that person in jail for five years just on the gun charge.
Anyway, so the day ends with Hunter Biden pleading not guilty and the deal completely falls apart.
This after a very strange night last night where the House Ways and Means Committee ends up accusing one of Hunter Biden's attorneys, I don't know who it is, of misrepresenting herself, it was a woman, to the court late Tuesday in an attempt to block the release of evidence that could jeopardize the president's son's deal.
And anyway, by Tuesday morning, the committee filed an amicus brief.
This is the Comer Committee that, and we just had James Comer on with the Delaware U.S. District Judge in this case.
And anyway, this whole case just fell apart.
And at one point, the judge was angry that the Biden's attorney just wanted the judge to rubber stamp the plea deal.
It ended up being a three-hour hearing.
Nobody expected it to last that long.
And at times, even angrily, the judge said she felt like she was being asked to rubber stamp an agreement that she had serious concerns about.
And so that's how this day ends.
It's a deal that never should have been struck.
It's a sweetheart deal.
It does, again, shine the light on what we have been pointing out regularly, and that is a dual justice system.
We don't have equal justice or equal application of our laws, sadly, at this point in American history.
And if we don't fix it, we've got major constitutional problems because that document, in a sense, becomes shredded.
Anyway, joining us now, he is the head of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law and Justice.
Also, my own personal attorney, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, Jay Seculo, is with us.
Guy, how many Supreme Court cases have you won, 21 or 22?
Think about last count, about 22.
By the way, I love how you say that.
Oh, last count.
I only won 22 Supreme Court cases.
That's all.
Situation during COVID where we had four cases and we argued them.
It was done by phone, but I still count them because they came out pretty well.
No, I think you have to count them.
A win is a win is a win, Jay.
It doesn't matter.
It still counts as a matter of law.
There were many of us that looked at this plea deal and just immediately said, here we go again.
This would never have happened to anybody with the last name Trump.
And this is now becoming a big issue for the American people.
And that is we don't believe that there's equal justice under the law and that the Justice Department under Merrick Garland has been weaponized and politicized.
And James Comer, you know, echoing those comments in the last half hour.
Your thoughts on the events today.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
I've said this before in your broadcast.
You've said it.
Hunter Biden's lead lawyer, Abby Lowell, is one of the best there is.
By the way, he's scary good.
There's like five great lawyers in D.C. You're one of them, and he's on the list.
Didn't mean to interrupt.
You're not kidding.
If you're the defendant, you want Abby Lowe in your corner.
So Abby negotiated a very good deal for his client.
But what fell apart today was the entire apparatus to enter the plea.
Normally, on a hearing like this, it's just literally to enter the plea bargain, the plea agreement.
And the judge asks questions like, what does it cover?
Do you understand all this?
And they did not have, between the government and the defense lawyers, there was not a meeting of the minds.
The government said that this just involved the two tax-related charges and the, as you said, the deferment of the gun possession from the years 2014 to 19.
The defendants thought this was a universal immunity deal.
Basically, you plead guilty to these counts.
And you couldn't bring any more charges.
And everything else that might have been criminal during that time period goes away.
The government said, no, no, no, it's still an open proceeding.
It's still an open investigation.
So there could be other charges.
Hunter Biden's lawyer said, well, that's not what we understand.
And at that point, the judge intervenes and says, you know what, here's the problem from a due process standpoint.
The defendant is about to waive their rights to a speedy trial, the right to confront witnesses, the right to a trial by jury.
And we're not even having an agreement as to what this covers.
So I'm not accepting this plea.
Go back, work it out, file a brief letting me know what's really agreed to here, and then we'll reevaluate.
At the end of the day, I think the judge will end up accepting it, assuming they come to an agreement.
But you're talking about chaos, and then to top the chaos off, you know, the night before you have this apparently bizarre attempt by one of the defense lawyers, apparently a female defense lawyer, calling the clerk of the court, acting as if she's the lawyer for the House who had filed an Amicus brief to get that document off the docket sheet because they didn't like what was in it.
And so this morning, everybody thought it was going to start with a sanctions hearing, but that's not what happened.
The whole plea fell apart.
Do I think it's over with?
No, I don't.
Do I think there's a two-tier system of justice?
Yes, I do.
Do I think this case ultimately will resolve on a plea?
Yeah, I do.
You do, but now we're discovering more and more through Comer's committee, especially as it relates to the Biden family and monies that have changed hands.
You know, it's taken a while to get the 1023 form, the suspicious activity reports.
He talked at length about all these varying shell companies.
In other words, an LLC will be formed, but for no real business purpose, but for the purpose of just funneling money from one account to another account, to another account.
And he's identified nine family members of the Bidens that have benefited financially, including grandchildren.
I'd like to know what they did for that money, how they earned their part.
So it seems that between the whistleblower testimony from the IRS, the 1023 form, which I want to get into detail with you in a second, that we're now getting a much more objective picture of just the extent that the Biden family was making millions and millions and millions of dollars from all these foreign countries, many of which are our top geopolitical foes like Russia, China, et cetera.
Yeah, so here's why I still think it resolves.
It may not resolve as to these other issues, but I think for the years 2014 through 2019, as it relates to taxes, drugs, and guns, this case is going to be resolved.
Now, as it relates to foreign agent registration and that, that may be a different story, and maybe they don't come to an agreement on that.
But remember, a sitting president can't be indicted, so they can't indict Joe Biden for any of this.
We argued that for President Trump successfully, that he could not be prosecuted as well while in office.
The president's son's in a different category.
He is not the chief executive.
He is not the president, so he can be prosecuted.
So the question is, you know what, Sean, here's what I think, though.
I think this is all being done.
And when it does resolve, it's going to give when the U.S. attorney Weiss is on the stand or testifying before Congress and they say, is this an ongoing investigation?
He's going to be able to say yes.
And at that point, that would mean, would that kill the plea deal?
Because Weiss is now expected, apparently he's gotten the sign-on from the DOJ to testify before Congress in September.
And there have been all sorts of questions about whether his office, John Solomon, reported that Weiss's office had signed off on felony charges to be brought against Hunter, and yet he didn't go with those charges, which would be highly unusual.
Yeah, Weiss says he did not, that he did not seek anything he didn't get.
There's a lot of he's going to have to answer that question because there was reports that he wanted to bring charges in the District of Columbia, which you would have to get the permission of the U.S. Attorney there or the main justice.
Same thing in California, but he didn't.
So we'll find out what he says.
Here's the real scoop on that.
All these hearings, they're good.
They're helpful.
It kind of sheds a light on this.
This may result in impeachment.
Who knows?
At least an impeachment proceeding before the House of Representatives.
The question becomes, does Hunter's lawyer still engage in this plea?
And I think they probably do.
And the government probably says we're going to carve out.
We're not including fairer violations or things like that, which we will be able to say are still being reviewed.
Does it mean it goes anywhere?
No, but it's good to say it's still open.
Well, we've got to now go back and look at the IRS whistleblower testimony on Agent Ziegler or Gary Shapley and the things that they were telling us.
For example, as part of their investigation, they wanted to talk to Biden family members, including Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, et cetera, and that people at the top prevented them from doing their job.
But to be fair, that's the same thing people accuse me of doing when I would not let President Trump sit down with Bob Mueller.
Okay, separate and apart.
That doesn't mean the rest of the family members can't be interviewed.
And IRS whistleblower, for example, Joseph Ziegler, the Democrat, said there's a mountain of evidence that Hunter Biden committed serious felonies.
And then they take it a step further, is that they had an opportunity to extend the statute of limitations.
David Weiss did.
And they didn't do it.
And they let the statute of limitations on tax charges pass when they had the ability to extend it.
I can't think of a single American that would get that accommodation.
Can you?
100% you would not.
And that, I think, is.
Notice he said you would not, meaning Hannity gets no good special treatment ever.
No one will.
I mean, at that level, let's be honest.
I mean, who lets a statute of limitations?
I mean, when it happens, it happens because the government made a mistake, not because they did it intentionally.
All right.
Now let's go to the 1023 form.
And you and I talked about this privately, and I know you've talked about it on your radio show.
And this is interesting because on this form, first of all, we're dealing with an FBI informant that was extremely credible, praised by the FBI, and paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the FBI.
And the FBI even went as far as to say because of this guy's great work, that they were able to get successful prosecutions.
Anyway, he's meeting with the head of Burisma, the oil and gas giant CEO, and he's writing down the notes that he took about how the CEO was bragging that they hired Hunter Biden to protect us through his dad, and that they weren't worried at all that Hunter will take care of all these issues through his dad.
They were angry that he said I had to pay $5 million to pay one Biden, $5 million to pay another Biden.
It'll take him 10 years to ever track that money down.
He stated he didn't want to pay them.
He was, quote, pushed to pay them, thought that Hunter was stupid.
He said it over and over again and that his dog was smarter than Hunter Biden, but everything will be okay because Joe is going to be the one handling it.
Then you have the WhatsApp messages with China, which I'll get to in a minute.
Now, that to me is pretty damning evidence, Jay Seculo, that in fact, he's basically describing the then vice president of the United States taking specific actions when he leveraged the billion dollars that he bragged about to get this prosecutor investigating Burisma and his son Hunter, you know, off the hook by firing him in six hours.
And Hunter continued to get paid as a result of that shakedown, alleged shakedown.
You know, as it relates to Hunter, he could be prosecuted for this if the Department of Justice decides to seek an indictment.
The president can't be while he's sitting in office.
He could be impeached for it.
He could be impeached for it, but then he has to be convicted in the Senate.
And let me tell you what's going to happen there.
Not going to happen.
I agree.
Correct.
Don't bring the, it doesn't mean do not bring the impeachment charges.
It just means, and hopefully, and I know the Republicans will do this, unlike the Democrats who impeached President Trump, the Republicans would allow due process to the president's counsel.
We got none before the House.
You know that.
And I made a big deal about that on the floor of the United States Senate when we got the acquittals on both charges.
So yes, I think all of this is live.
They're now saying, by the way, Hunter's lawyers are now saying it's going to take upwards of two weeks to comply with the judge's order to go through and negotiate this out.
So they've got, this is going back for round two.
That's what this means.
Okay, let me go back to the other issue, and that is the entire enterprise, because James Comer just said, we're talking about over a dozen countries paying this family, usually right after visits by the then vice president, often accompanied by his son, which they, they say, was addicted to crack cocaine at the time.
You can add to that the WhatsApp message to a Chinese oil executive that I'm sitting here with my father.
I'd like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to hold the grudge that you will regret not following my direction, I'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
And then in less than a week, Jay, the Bidens were wired $5 million.
Yep.
What do you call that?
The government's got to investigate it.
And if there's charges that it violates the law, they have to be prosecuted.
At least the ones that are not the president of the United States.
Okay, so that's the WhatsApp message.
And then they've already identified.
I just asked James Comer again.
You got to have more.
You know this.
I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, but I'm a defense lawyer, so I naturally go to a defense instinct.
That's why you're my defense lawyer.
Not that I ever want to be defended ever.
But if a $5 million wire comes in, you know, that looks tawdry, maybe, but it has to be, what's the crime?
That's what the Justice Department has to determine.
What is the crime here?
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Let me ask you: Hunter went on Good Morning America, admitted he had no experience in energy, oil, gas, Ukraine, or China.
None.
Oh, why were they paying him that kind of money?
But that's not a crime.
That's not a crime to pay the son of the vice president money without any experience at all.
Do that.
And when he asked what experience he had, he said, I sat on the board of Amtrak and I was on a UN food commission and I'm a lawyer.
That's not real experience.
But the reason I'm playing devil's advocate here, it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
So they'll turn this right around on Donald Trump.
Well, explain, can you tell me one example where the Trump kids were shaking down foreign countries that wanted to gain influence with their father?
Because I can't.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just saying if there's a charge against Hunter Biden for taking the money other than tax evasion, the charge has to be a substantive crime.
It's not just it looks really bad that you're the vice president's son and you're on a board of this company.
Let me ask this question.
So, okay, he's mentioning his father.
He implicates his own father in his laptop.
Pops takes half his income.
He has to pay for Pops home repairs and 10% for the big guy.
All right.
So, Hunter Biden with no experience is hired to sit on this board.
You have a 1023 form where the CEO of Burismas quoted as he's stupid and useless, but they're doing it to get access to his father.
Okay.
Is that not damning evidence to you?
What's the crime?
I would say influence peddling, racketeering, bribery.
What is the crime?
High crimes, misdemeanors.
No, that's high crimes and misdemeanors.
Separate it apart.
I got it.
But the crime, you asked me the crime?
I want to be careful, Sean.
And you know how I feel about this.
It is a two-tiered system of justice.
But let me just say this: okay?
If they're going to bring charges against Hunter Biden for this stuff, make sure they do an actual job of putting a criminal case together.
Not like the nonsense they pulled on Donald Trump.
I totally agree with you, but on the surface, is that not damning to you?
Because it's pretty damning to me, and we need to get to the bottom of it.
I'm not saying it.
We know that those things happen.
We don't know to the extent.
It looks terrible.
Yeah.
I mean, paying a guy millions for no experience, that doesn't happen.
You know anybody that makes millions with no experience?
I don't.
I'm a defense lawyer.
Tell me where the crime is.
What is the crime that Burisman made a statement?
They were buying influence to the vice president by enriching the family.
Because he's the vice president's son.
You know what they're saying?
That racketeering?
Is that bribe?
Maybe potentially bribery?
Are you talking about a federal bribery statute?
No, that wouldn't be a bribery.
Then what were they paying the money for?
He was on the board, they said.
With no experience.
Well, I'm not saying it looks good.
I'm just saying we're going around in circles.
Really make it a crime.
Show me the crime.
You know, and to the audience out there, understand.
I had to deal with this for four years defending the former president of the United States when nonsense was thrown at him and his family.
Do you think this is nonsense compared to what you dealt with?
Because I don't.
Statute or law that is violated by this.
Okay.
Is influence peddling illegal in America?
Influence peddling, there's not a crime of influence peddling.
It would fit under the racketeering statutes, RICO statutes, you know, bribery statutes.
Are you taking actions as vice president, which is what that 1023 form alleges specifically?
Here would it be?
The crime would be this.
If Hunter Biden took the money and then gave it to his father for that particular action, there could be a crime.
But you're going to have to establish not that he took the money, but it was taking the money to get a result.
All right.
There you'd have to prove the crime.
But again, it's got to be by beyond a reasonable doubt.
All I'm saying is I was the defense lawyer for four years of my life defending Donald Trump from nonsense.
Okay, nonsense.
Make the call to the president of Ukraine and they're doing an impeachment.
And I'm just saying, if they're going to do a thing against the president, whether it's impeachment or something else, have the crime.
If you're going to go after Hunter for these other things, make sure you can prove him.
I'm not saying you can't.
Just make sure you got a case.
I think the case is growing every day, but we'll see over time.
And that's why I call it the Biden bribery scandal allegation.
You notice the word allegations there.
Yeah, yeah, because they haven't, you know, nothing's been proved so far.
They've got a lot of interesting statements.
You know, let me tell you, can I give you one last thing here?
By the way, Tevin Archer's going to reveal a lot on Monday.
I'm not going to say on this either, but I'm your friend and I'm your lawyer.
I'm going to tell you this.
I work for the Department of the Treasury, the Internal Revenue Service, as a trial lawyer.
Agents often would want a case charged at a very high level.
And then when they came to my office, we'd say, no, wait a minute.
This case doesn't reach that level of felony.
It should be this misdemeanor.
That happens all the time.
I'm not saying that with regard to these agents.
Something was played with here.
I don't think there's a doubt about that.
And I think these agents' testimony, these whistleblower testimony, are that critical to this.
The idea that these countries would do business deals with somebody that they even admit at the time was a crack addict, had no experience, and they talk specifically in the case of the Burisma CEO about the influence of the father, I think is very damning, and I think they're going to have a very hard time getting out of that.
That's my take.
Who's they?
Meaning Joe Biden when he's out of office.
And I think this is going to follow him out of office.
The statute of limitation expires, you're right.
Okay, that's a good point.
You never know, right?
You don't.
And if he's in office, there's nothing you can, you know, the only way to do that is you impeach him, convict him, and then you can try him.
He'll end up pardoning himself at Hunter before it's all of a sudden done.
He has the absolute authority to do so.
He does.
Agreed.
The power of the partner is absolute.
You're going to be mad at me because I was acting like...
Nobody's going to be mad at you.
You're being you.
We like you being you.
That's all right.
All right, Jay Seculo, Chief Counsel, American Center for Law and Justice.
Thank you.
We appreciate your time.
Now let's get to our busy, busy telephones.
Let us say hi to Maria is in the great state of Wisconsin.
Maria, how are you?
Glad you called.
Oh, just fine.
I've been listening to you.
It's great.
Oh, thank you.
I'm glad you're out there.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for being a part of our program.
What's going on?
I wanted to find out if he is found guilty, can Joe pardon him as president?
Pardon Hunter?
Uh-huh.
The power of the pardon is absolute.
He absolutely can.
Oh, my God.
Then why are we spending all this money on it?
Well, I mean, it's a good question.
You know, I know in the case of Donald Trump, you know, one of the things that he said is, you know, he felt that people had a right to be found innocent and that he waited to the end of the process.
And then he ended up pardoning some people that he felt were unfairly treated and unfairly targeted.
You know, I mean, this is where the dual justice system kicks in.
The actions of James Comey and General Flynn and Paul Manafort and Papadopoulos and Roger Stone.
I mean, it all fits in, doesn't it?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You know, 30 agents, guns drawn, pre-dawn raids, fake news, CNN, cameras, frogmen in the back.
I mean, it's insane.
Thank you for taking my call.
Thank you, Maria.
Glad you're out there.
Mark's heart is troubled.
What's up, Mark?
What can I do for you, my friend?
Well, thanks for taking my call.
So over the past several elections, I know I have, and I know many other people, have completely lost faith that the elections are fair.
So you always get the same mantras, oh, nothing to see here, steamroll the results, as long as they comply with what the left wants.
And we see countless policies and divisions of the government fail the American people.
You know, the Homeland Security, FBI, Department of Justice.
So now in my lovely state of Michigan, rumor has it that election laws are now changing.
So like, for example, ballot boxes, you know, the Zuckerberg boxes or however you want to call them, don't need bipartisan representation.
They call them drop boxes.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
And I've heard the term Zuckerberg boxes.
I've heard that.
So if there is not bipartisan representation when the box is open, how can they guarantee the proper chain of custody?
The beauty of how every state votes, or maybe the curse of how every state votes, is the states will get to decide.
Now, in a perfect world, this is how I think our voting system should be.
You need voter ID.
You need signature verification.
You need chain of custody controls.
You need updated voter rolls and partisan observers watching the entire process all day and all night long.
And if I had my way, we'd have paper ballots only, with exceptions for the elderly, the infirmed, and the military, and make it a national holiday, Election Day.
And everybody gets to go to the polls, use a paper ballot, and you have partisan observers in every precinct in the country watching the voting that day.
So no shenanigans take place.
And when the polls close, partisan observers, all sides, watch the vote counting.
And then they declare a winner after they've added them all up together.
And that's what I prefer, but that's not the system we have.
So we've got to deal with the army we have, the system we have, not the one we wish we had.
And that means that Republicans, now they've taken a very big effort now on this issue of banking your vote.
Republicans have been reluctant and resistant towards early voting and voting by mail.
That must end.
They have to get in the game earlier.
You cannot start out Election Day down hundreds of thousands of votes.
Many states allow legal ballot harvesting.
Ballot harvesting defined as somebody else handing in other people's ballots.
I don't think that practice should happen.
To me, it could lend itself to a lot of corruption.
Not a good idea.
But as long as it's what the Democrats are doing, Republicans better match their efforts.
And frankly, they ought to surpass their efforts if they want to win future elections.
And then when we win more elections, then Republicans and states, they can change the voting system to the one that I described, the one with the most, I think, the one that would have the most integrity and that people would have the most confidence in the results on.
That's what I think.
Okay, but furthermore, to take it one step further.
You take it further, Moore.
Go ahead.
Do you honestly feel as though the FBI, the Department of Justice can all be completely revamped without destroying them and rebuilding them?
Because they've proven time and time again that there is an outrageous amount of bias.
Yeah, I think the FBI's involvement in the last two presidential elections, you're singing from the Hannity written hymnal.
I've been saying this for a long period of time.
And do I think that the, I don't think it's a majority of FBI special agents and employees.
As a matter of fact, I'd say over 90% of them are honorable people that live in our communities and put their lives on the line to stop really dangerous bad people from harming us.
But it's the upper management, the upper echelon, seventh floor people, if you will, deep state people, if you will, they're the ones that have corrupted the system.
The FBI had Hunter's laptop in December 2019.
They verified its authenticity in March of 2020.
Then why were FBI agents in the months leading up to the 2020 election meeting with big tech companies weekly and warning them they may be victims of disinformation campaigns and it may be about Joe and Hunter Biden?
That to me, they could have confirmed that laptop was real to the big tech companies.
They did not.
They had authenticated it themselves by that point.
They didn't do it.
And Facebook specifically asked and they refused to give them an answer.
And so they were pre-bunking a story that they knew would be public because they knew Rudy Giuliani had a copy.
Right.
Okay, does that answer your question?
So I think it can be cleaned up.
And you need more honorable people that believe in our Constitution and the rule of law and equal justice and equal application of our laws.
You need more of those people in power.
Right.
But the problem is, anybody watching the congressional hearings today, you know, about the Oversight Committee and all of that, we see these, you know, the head of the FBI.
You see, everybody that goes on stand, they are lying under oath, but nobody ever does.
Well, Christopher Ray, you know, sometimes I think they do lie.
And, you know, Merrick Garland and David Weiss may have some serious questions to answer.
You know, you watch Christopher Ray in his last appearance, what, a week, week and a half ago, whatever it was, before the committee, he dodged, he ducked, he weaved, he obfuscated, and answered very little.
It was frankly an effort in futility.
He has no interest in restoring this, what should be and once was the world's premier law enforcement agency to its prior greatness.
And that to me is a shame.
I totally agree.
All right, my friend.
Thank you for the call.
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This is the Sean Hannity Show.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
We got an amazing Hannity tonight.
The crazy unfolding of events from yesterday.
We have Jim Jordan, James Comer, Ted Cruz on all of that.
Also, Congressman Jason Smith, he's on the Powerful House Ways and Means Committee.
Yeah, this weird experience where apparently someone on Hunter's defense team, a woman that's a lawyer, tried to represent herself as having been from the Ways and Means Committee.