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Pastor Jack Hibbs - July 7th, Hour 2
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It's the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Rose.
I'll be with you until six Eastern today.
And it's a pleasure to be with you.
During the break, I got a text from a friend of mine, Shimaine Nugent, who is Ted Nugent's wife, but I like to say he's her husband, okay?
Because she is awesome.
If you don't know Shime Nugent, you need to know her.
But she told me we were talking about free speech on the air, right?
Just before the break.
And she said that she's still permanently suspended on Twitter.
And by the way, I have to mention this, Shamain.
I hope you don't mind.
Her new book is out, Killer House, because you know she's gone through a lot.
You don't know what's inside your home that is hurting your health and probably destroying your life in some cases.
So, Shimaine, nice to hear from you.
Love you, girl, and tell that crazy husband of yours I said hello, because he is crazy, but I love him.
It's he's a good crazy, really good crazy.
We were talking about artificial intelligence and how it's creeping into every aspect of our lives.
And the creepiest creep is into the pulpit.
So I've asked Pastor Jack Hibbs to join me.
I love this guy.
He leads Calvary Church, uh chapel in Chino Hill, and he has a television broadcast that's called Real Life with Jack Hibbs.
I watch it all the time.
I can't get enough.
It really inspires me and just gives me a real good handle on what's going on and how I need to live my life.
You can go to Jack Hibbs.com to check it out.
But I've asked him to call and weigh in on this subject.
So, Pastor Jack Hibbs, how are you?
Rose, I'm doing good.
Thank you so much.
You know, I just I thank you for real life with Jack Hibbs.
It's been a real blessing to me, and I I really do appreciate it.
And you are so unafraid to speak out, and that's really important in this day, isn't it?
I think for all of us.
Yeah, absolutely.
And look, uh uh that goes to right back at you.
Uh the reason why Rose, you and I do that is because we know what truth is.
Yes.
I think um by by knowing that, and I and I'm not talking about you know, creating it or my truth uh or Rose's.
We know the truth.
And so because of that, you can be, in my opinion, invincible, you know, and I believe that I am until the Lord takes me home.
So at my own peril, so to speak, emotionally or mentally or even physically, I'm gonna speak the truth because I know that in my own life, the word of God, the truth of God has set my life free.
I was not born in a Christian church, I didn't have a Christian upbringing, but when I heard the truth of God's word, it so set me free, and it's so answered questions in my life that um I'm now living for one and for a message that is greater than I could ever be.
So it's a joy.
Yeah, it is, and you know, you know, you pull from your life experience, you pull from what you've learned um through reading scripture and being inspired by God and the Holy Spirit.
And then, you know, when you think about how important that is and how genuine and organic that is, and then you compare that to the experiment that happened not too long ago in Germany.
Um they had this artificial intelligence chat bot uh leading the service there, and it was a an avatar, it was personified by uh a man on a very big screen above the altar, and this avatar started preaching.
There was about 300 people that had shown up.
It was an experimental Lutheran church service, and it was almost entirely generated by this artificial intelligence.
So there there's uh there's a concern here because there were people that said afterwards there was no heart and soul in it, the avatar showed no emotions at all.
Well, duh, it's not a human being.
And and so you're having this AI generated sermon.
And how can that on any level compare to something that's been inspired by God that's someone who's studied the word, who's lived their life um following the word, how does that even compare?
Well, I I am gonna answer your question the best I can at this time and maybe under the file uh waiting for more information.
Number one, you're a hundred percent correct.
I saw that uh event as well.
Remember this, Rose.
There were not only 300 people that got into the building, but they gathered an hour and a half in a line in Germany.
That hasn't happened in hundreds of years.
In line to go to church in Germany.
Most of the German churches are empty, but people got in line because of this thing that was gonna deliver a sermon.
But when people were leaving noticed, and you hit the nail on the head, uh, reporters were asking them, what'd you think?
And um by far, people said uh there was no emotion to it.
Now, Rose, here's where uh again, I'm gonna stand on the truth of God, and it's this.
People think this is new, and I get it.
The technology's new.
But it's been listen, it's been waiting in a sense to arrive.
The book of Revelation tells us in chapter 13 that in the last days, there's going to be this consummate politician who's going to answer the world's problems, and he's gonna have an avatar with him.
It actually says that he will have an image that can both speak and breathe.
Wow.
And will communicate to people.
This is Revelation 13.
So here's my this is my opinion.
This is one reporter's opinion.
What people said about it lacking life and emotion, imagine the day when the Antichrist is how he goes by, when he's got this thing, this avatar thing that I believe like times of old during the Apostle Paul and Jesus' days.
What happens, Rose, when this thing gets possessed by a demonic entity?
What happens when some sort of demonic invisible power takes over an object?
This is called idolatry in the old and new testament.
But Paul the Apostle warned, don't pray to idols, because when you do, you're actually bowing down to demons.
Well, what if this technology morphs, as it were, where the dark sinister world of Satan winds up to inhabit things like what you saw in Germany?
Yeah, it lacked life.
But listen, it's it's not past Satan to mimic a lot of God's miracles.
We see that in the old and new testament.
So the believer today needs to be grounded in the Bible more than ever before to navigate these days.
Because the level of deception.
Look, we have we're seeing left and right.
You're reading, I read stories about this all the time because it fascinates me.
But artificial intelligence, it screws up so many times, and it's deceptive and and misleading.
And I remember there was a gosh, it was a nonprofit, I think it was an eating disorder hotline.
All of the employees were fired because I think they wanted to unionize, so they brought in artificial intelligence to do their job.
Well, it turned out that the AI was encouraging people in their disorders rather than helping them out of their disorders.
So there is a level of deception here that I think is something that we have to be really aware of.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, Jesus, who has never been wrong and he'll never be wrong, said that in the last days leading up to his return, there will be deception of such levels that if it were possible, thank God he said if, if it were possible, his own very elect would be deceived.
That's right.
Shield ourselves.
How do we deal with this stuff?
You and I, Rose, because I know you, we look at all that's going on in the world around us through a biblical worldview lens.
That's how we not only keep saying, but that's how we actually can rejoice knowing, hey, God's got this.
It's called Bible prophecy.
He knows what's coming next.
So this whole AI thing is so, you know, stimulating, and the young people love it, all this kind of stuff.
But the reality is, look, I'm gonna counter the narrative.
The reality is, how is it that at our church?
I've got I've got nine-year-olds coming forward to accept Jesus Christ and 85-year-olds coming forward in the same sermon to accept Jesus Christ.
That's the power of the Holy Spirit.
And I don't think no matter what, God has any rivals.
I don't think God is wringing his hands in heaven saying, Oh my goodness, how am I gonna compete with AI?
I'm sure.
I am so sure.
Well, you know, and one of the other things I wanted to talk to you about, too, is we've got a huge presidential election coming up, and I don't want either one of us to uh get behind a candidate in this segment, but I do want to talk about how we should, as people who love this Country and love freedom because I just talked about in the last segment about our freedoms and how they were laid out for us in the Bill of Rights, according to actually scripture.
Um, and the only reason we were able to to take that power out of the the of government and put it into the hands of the individual is because there was no entrenched bureaucracy here to stop them.
Now we're seeing that there is an entrenched bureaucracy that tries to stop us and prevent us from living in those freedoms that were set forth for us.
So when we approach this election, because it is very important, we have a whole ton of candidates around.
I'll be talking about that later on in the show for the listener.
How do we approach elections?
How do we decide?
Uh what should we base that decision process on?
You know, thank you for asking that question.
Simple truth that I and we as a church apply to every candidate, no matter what the office is this.
And by the way, no matter what their belief, I have voted for atheists who are very moral people.
Right.
Comes down to this.
There are some key factors, basically for me, three, that I look for in a candidate.
Number one, uh is the fact that are are they pro-life?
Pro-life is a big deal to me.
I believe God is offended by America because of our abortion direction.
So I look for pro-life candidates.
I look for candidates that are also uh pro-constitution, of course.
And if I can't track their previous voting records, let's say they're a brand new look look how look what Trump was back in 2016.
He didn't have a voting record for us to look at.
But normally a candidate has a voting record for us to look at.
Voting records never lie.
The politician may lie, the voting records do not do that.
So I look for the value of life, I look for the value of the family, and I look for biblically based scriptural uh foundations, and someone's gonna say, Jack, you're crazy, because you know, we've got two people running for office, and neither one of them believe in God.
That may be very true, but what if one of them is pro-life and the other one's not?
Right.
What if what if the other one's pro-constitution?
And by the way, listen up, everybody.
The other one just keeps shouting and shouting democracy.
Democracy, democracy.
We're not a democracy.
We are a constitutional republic.
Do our candidates even know the difference between those things?
So it's up to us to keep this republic, Ben Franklin said.
And that means every single one of us need to know something about who's running for office in our town, county, or state or nation, and get behind that person by voting.
And and Christians listen, all Christians.
People will say, Well, you know, I'm a Christian, I can't vote because they're all so wicked and evil.
Wait a minute.
Listen, Jesus is not going to be on the ballot.
I is not going to come on Air Force One.
In the meantime, we are supposed to pick the best candidate uh to lead our nation according to its Judeo-Christian values.
And that's what I do.
That's what our church does.
And for that reason, Rose, I gotta tell you, every election cycle, every two years, candidates line up trying to get on stage at our church for us to endorse them or pray for them.
So it matters to them.
It should matter to us.
Absolutely.
And you know what I was thinking too.
You mentioned democracy, and you know, for a while there, uh, those who were promoting socialism, they started talking like I noticed Bernie Sanders and a few others.
I'm not talking about social, I'm talking about democratic socialism.
And I'm like, there is no such thing.
And besides, the first time you have an election under democratic socialism will be the last time that you have a true election.
After that, it's like a choice between pork and bacon.
You know, correct.
Yes.
Well said.
But you know, we do, we live in this uh and I I really encourage people to listen to Jack Hibb.com and real life with Jack Hibbs because you know, we really do help uh talk about you know succumbing to the woke ideology because there's so much of that right now, and it's really hard, especially for young people to navigate all of that because you don't want to offend and you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but at the same time, the truth is the truth, and and it may not make you feel good, you know.
But you know, I hey listen, I go to church on Sundays and sometimes that pastor says something that makes me feel bad because I know I didn't do something right that week, but that's okay.
That's okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know what's precious, and I mean this, and I I want everyone to be encouraged by this.
When you literally stop, I had a chance to do this on Wednesday night at church.
When you literally stop and you get eye level to a 12 year old, which is actually what happened.
I got eye level with a 12-year-old who was emotional.
And I just simply said, What's going on?
They they shared what was going on.
And I said this.
Rose, listen to this.
I said, do can you will you give me the permission to say something to you right now that is going to quite possibly hurt your feelings, but it's true.
Think of it like a shot or a doctor doing something for you.
Can I tell you something from the Bible that may hurt you at first, but it will heal you in the end.
Are you willing?
Can I do that?
And he said, Yeah.
Well, I have 30 seconds, so quickly, what did you tell him?
So when I framed it that way, I wasn't offending him, and he knew it.
He knew that I loved He knew that I was telling the truth, but I told him up front.
You might get a little sting.
Are you willing to hear this?
And I love it.
Oh I love it.
Pastor Jack Hibbs, Real Life with Jack Hibbs.
You can go to Jack Hibbs.com.
I love that story, and that was the perfect, perfect story to end that segment.
Thank you, Pastor Hibbs.
I appreciate you.
We'll be back with more of the Sean Hannity show coming up.
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We are back.
I haven't got much time, and I'm sorry I went a little long, but I love Jack Hibbs, and I'm sure you enjoyed it as well.
Coming up, there's still a lot to talk about, and you can weigh in on some of the topics that we're going to discuss.
I want to talk about millennials and particularly Gen Zers.
I mean, they don't they don't like boomers.
But I got news for you.
You know that phone that you just can't let go of?
And the one that you like, uh Gen Zers don't want to use their index finger, you know, uh when they're scrolling on the phone because oh my gosh, they're they'll they'll look like an old boomer.
Well, guess what?
It was an old boomer that got you that technology in the first place that started that many years ago.
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Because we are, you know, sometimes we're in difficult times right now.
The economy is tough.
It's making it rough for everyone.
Young people, especially are just coming out of the gate and they're like, oh my gosh, I feel like there's so much adversity, it's so difficult.
How will I ever achieve my goals?
How can I be the success that I always thought I could be?
I asked a friend of mine to join us today.
He's the author of Checkmate.
He's also the founder of JLS Sales Academy and the host of a brand new podcast, so you have to check his out too, all right?
Using the number seven, not spelled out, but seven figure wealth podcast.
And it's seven figurewealth.com.
Please welcome to the show, Jerry Smith.
How are you, Jerry?
Good.
How are you doing, Rose?
I'm doing all right.
You know, you we did a podcast together not too long ago, and what I really loved was a story you told me about your mom, because so many times, and Jerry, think about it.
There are a lot of young people right now that are feeling a little discouraged and they're concerned.
The economy is it's not great, and they're having a difficult time going out on their own.
I mean, you remember those days, right?
You couldn't wait to have your own apartment, your own place, and and establish yourself.
And for those of us Who may have already been somewhat established but didn't accomplish those goals that we had set forth for us.
Even though we are looking at adversity and and it could be the economy, it could be other things in our lives, that does not have to stop us.
It doesn't have to overcome anything that we are doing to proceed towards that final goal that we set for ourselves.
No, that's absolutely right.
I mean, you figure Rose for me growing up, I I was adopted by a single mother, and growing up we didn't we didn't have a whole lot.
I mean, basically we were in a situation we didn't even have a car.
She used to take me to swim lessons.
We used to have to walk probably about three, three and a half miles just to go to the uh to go get those swim lessons.
And the only thing that she could do to try and take care of me and make a living was the baby set.
And so that's she did for a living, and the way you know that those kids kind of became like my surrogate siblings.
It was a way that she was able to take care of me and raise me.
And so it was something that she had a lot of adversity that she had to overcome just from a fiscal standpoint, trying to raise a child on her own.
I think that when it came to survival, I learned at a very early age that when we would try and provide with the limited budget that we had for all the kids that she was babysitting, trying to take care of ourselves.
When it came to providing, I learned early on that even grocery shopping, basically I used to go down with her to the store.
We would walk up and down the aisles, look for everything that was on sale, then go back and purchase everything and have a plan based on what was on sale.
That's how you did your shopping, just to try and take care of everybody.
So when it comes to today and adversity and people trying to overcome the things that they would perceive as obstacles, you know, there's always obstacles in life.
And it's one of those things where just having uh realizing that if you can put a game plan together and overcome those obstacles, you know, the economy and everything, it's it's always changing.
There's always obstacles in life.
And so when I look back at growing up and the lessons that my mother taught me of overcoming those obs you know, all of those obstacles, you know, that's what really has helped me to be able to try and succeed in life.
Yeah, and in your book, we're talking to Jerry Smith, he is the author of Checkmate, also the host of a brand new podcast, Seven Figure Wealth.
You know, in your book, Checkmate, you talk about strategizing, and you you use the term checkmate very deliberately because you you were a pretty good chess player and probably still are, and and you use that strategy that you learned to play chess well to play the game of life well.
Could you explain that to the audience?
Well, you know what the thing is is with chess and the game of chess, you're thinking ahead.
You're trying to figure out what's going to happen ahead of time, even though obviously your opponent's moves aren't in, you know, they're not in your control, but you're just trying to have some type of strategy to succeed versus just flying by the seat of your pants.
So what I realized in life is it works the same way.
If you don't have a strategy, if you don't look ahead, if you just let everything kind of hit you in the face and you're not paying any attention, then it's a little tough to succeed.
And so having a strategy to look at everything that's going on around you, that would be whether it was economic things, whether it was social things, whether it was family things, if you're not paying attention to what goes on around you and you don't have some type of strategy, it it becomes difficult to succeed.
Well, and thinking about that in in those terms, you can learn to anticipate roadblocks, so to speak, and then how you might want to get around them.
So anticipating them, I think, is is key.
It is.
I mean, when you really think about you're trying to look ahead and you're watching what's going on in front of you.
It's kind of like walking.
If you're walking across the street and you keep walking back and forth across the street, and you never look to see if there's any traffic coming, sooner or later, Rose, you're gonna get hit.
And it's the same thing in life.
If you're not paying attention to what's going on and you're not looking at what the environment around you is, you're gonna have problems.
It's like getting hit by that car.
But if you simply just pay attention and utilize the resources that you have at your disposal, then it's a lot easier to try and overcome things and and move towards being successful.
You know what, Jerry, Can we talk to young people right now?
Because they they're a little discouraged.
I hear from them all the time, and I work with a lot of young people.
Many of them thought they would be further ahead by now.
Many thought that they would have their own apartment, but the economy has made it difficult for them to move on.
What advice would you give a young Jerry at this time in the world as it is?
I went into get lunch the other day, and there was a couple young gentlemen uh setting there and they were talking about everything from dating to the economy.
And so at one point one of them looks over at me and says, Well, you know, what do you think that the problem with the economy is?
And it kind of caught me off guard, and so I looked at him and I said, Well, what do you think it is?
And right away goes, Oh, I can sum it up real easy.
It's the baby boomers.
Oh, that's really the baby boomers.
He goes off and says, you know, with my generation, the you know, interest rates are high, uh, the cost of ho homes is high, we're never gonna be able to own a home, and it's all because of the baby boomers.
And so I said to him, Well, you know, let me let me ex ask you this.
You know, when I bought my first home, interest rates were probably around eleven, twelve percent, and we property values were high too, and so uh I'm trying to figure out what the difference is, and that didn't really seem to be you know, he wasn't gonna quit, you know, with all you know, with all the baby boomers, and so I I said to him at one point, I said, So let me ask you this.
If you're in a situation where you were going on a date and you or you were having somebody your house and you were gonna cook dinner, maybe you wanted to have filet, have some wine, because you really wanted to impress the person, but you didn't know how to cook.
What would you do?
And he goes, Well, I just order order Uber Eats.
And I said, Well, exactly.
And so when you got Uber Eats in, then what would you do?
I mean, are you just gonna leave it in a bag, serve it in the plastic containers?
What are you gonna do?
And he goes, Well, no, I'd get out the silverware, maybe mess the kitchen up a little bit, set out some wine glasses, put the food on a plate, you know, that way maybe it looked like I would prepare it.
And I said, So let me get this straight.
In that part of your life, you would look at what was going on, you would prepare for the adversity that you can't cook, and you would adapt to the situation so that your date went well.
Because you know what would happen, you know, how would it go for you if you just said here, I'm gonna serve it in the plastic containers with this plastic forks.
And he goes, Well, date probably wouldn't go the way I expected.
And I said, That's exactly right.
So when you don't prepare and you don't have a strategy, then what happens is is things don't go the right way, and trying to blame the baby boomers for your lack of planning in an economy that constantly moves around is like blaming that date for the fact that you served everything in the plastic containers that came from over eats.
And so he just kind of looked at me and he didn't know what to say.
That was a great story that you just told.
But you know what?
It makes a lot of sense.
And I think that we no matter where you are, because you know, think about the depression stage and when the people that came through that era, they somehow made things work, and there were there were successes that came out of that.
And when I say success, Jerry, I don't mean necessarily that seven figures.
I'm talking and the whole concept of your podcast, seven figure uh wealth, is more about just establishing, you know, those those goals to be successful, being successful.
You don't have to be rich to be successful.
It doesn't hurt though, you know, to accumulate wealth, but there are steps that you can take to be successful.
And I think everybody, I I at least at least the baby boomers used to think about how they could live that American dream and and attain the success that they wanted.
And I think most people, if they were honest with you or themselves, they too would like success and whatever it is they are endeavoring to do.
Oh no, I would agree with you.
And keep in mind, Rose, when I originally, you know, clientele that I worked with when at an early age, because I worked with a demographic that they were 65 plus, so it was not uncommon for me to be dealing with people in their eighties in the eighties, right?
So they were born in the turn of the century and they came through the Great Depression, and one of the things that some of the past generations understood was that they had to make sacrifice.
Today we're Very much an immediate gratification society.
And so I would deal with people that they had money buried in the backyard because they were afraid of banks.
They didn't use credit like we would use credit today, except for a home or a car.
So the belief that America was the land of opportunity and that they could accomplish things through sacrifice was a little bit different.
And I think that today, because we're very immediate gratification oriented, nobody really likes, I mean, everybody would love to be successful.
Everybody would love to be wealthy.
But a lot of times the question becomes are you, you know, are you willing to make the sacrifices that would be needed that would need to be done to be able to achieve those levels of success.
Interesting point.
That's a great point.
In fact, and you can hear more of Jerry on his podcast.
It's Seven Figure Wealth Podcast.
You can find that on Spotify and Rumble and also his website, sevenfigurewealth.com, and check out his book.
You can get a free copy of it, Checkmate.
And Jerry, thank you so much for the encouraging words because this is a difficult time for a lot of people right now.
And uh, and I think that we can take some of your strategies and and put them to good use.
So thank you, Jerry Smith, author of Checkmate, host of seven, the number seven figure wealth podcast.
Thanks so much for joining me today, Jerry.
I appreciate it.
All right, thank you.
All right, take care.
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I'm sitting in for Sean today, as you can tell.
Um we have phone callers here.
So let's start with.
I think we're gonna go with Ken in Minnesota, but we'll get to all the rest of you as well.
Hey, Ken, how are you doing?
Good, Rose.
Thanks for taking my call.
So I just want to mention most people don't know what uh this chat GPT is actually set up to do.
Uh it's it's more than just uh you ask it questions and it pumps out answers real quick or write term papers for you.
It's actually set up to be your personal confidant, your personal advisor, your go-to person, uh almost like an avatar where you can set it up to uh it actually becomes kind of your personality where it it can make critical decisions for you about you, your life, your family.
Um say you have a deceased uh loved one, it can actually if you have a recording of their voice, it'll actually answer you in that voice.
Um and then you can if you have a picture of that loved one, it'll answer you with the with the actual picture and voice of uh of your loved one.
So, like Pastor Jack was talking about, it kind of becomes an avatar where you depend on this thing for everything, uh scheduling, whatever whatever is going on in your life, um kind of like your cell phone, we can't live without our cell phone.
Right.
That's what that's what this is set up to do so that you cannot live without this thing.
You become totally dependent on it.
And it obviously it matters who's putting the information into that to answer questions.
So what what I could foresee is uh if if you uh ask it life and death questions or end of life questions, um, what is that thing gonna answer?
Exactly.
And I have to go, but Ken, you make a great point, and it is there's so much more involved in this.
Ken, thank you so much from for your perspective.
Um, people are dating avatars right now, okay?
It's weird, and it's an easy transition for people, young people who are so accustomed to being attached to that phone all the time and not human beings.
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