It's called Decades of Decadence, How Our Spoiled Elites Blew America's Inheritance of Liberty and Security and Prosperity.
It's written by Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who joins us now.
Senator, by the way, bookstores all across the country, Amazon.com, Hannity.com.
You know, it's really amazing how you systematically in this book just tear apart and lay out the case of just how far we've gotten away from what has made historically this country great.
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Sean.
The book, Decades of Decadence, is really about the decisions that were made right after the Cold War ended, right?
And the argument we heard from everybody was everyone's going to become a democracy.
Everyone's going to become free enterprise.
We're all going to become consumers and investors in this global economy.
And country doesn't matter anymore because we're all just going to be one big, happy global family.
Well, as it turns out, those ideas were not just silly.
They're actually destructive.
We made economic decisions that allowed jobs and factories to leave our country, leaving millions of Americans without jobs and therefore destroying families and communities.
We're seeing the price of that today.
We deindustrialized the country, so now we're dependent on China to make all kinds of important things for our country.
They stole those factories and industrial capability.
They didn't steal it.
We gave it to them.
And then on top of all this, because country didn't matter anymore, obviously, what do we need a border for?
And even sicker is this cultural rot, the hysteria of arguing that America is a systemically evil, racist, discriminatory, and bigoted country.
Our history is nothing to be proud of.
It needs to be systematically rebuilt because it's not good.
And then that, of course, leads to, by the way, anything that's traditional, whether it's marriage, whether it's family, whether it's church, religion, and faith, all these things are actually bad.
They're not good.
They need to be stopped.
And to top it all off, nothing is true anymore, right?
If you want to pretend the sun rises in the West instead of the East, we're going to all have to pretend too.
And if you don't, you're a hater.
And that, of course, has extended to the identity of gender, biological gender, all kinds of hysteria that we now see.
So it's undermining all the pillars of our greatness.
And we got away with it for a while because there was no one else to compete against us.
But now there is.
You actually say, and I agree with this.
I wish I didn't agree with it, but I think it's self-evident, actually, at this point.
And it's that America is now a nation that is in decline.
I mean, you know, the way you write it up is, you know, Americans are worried about China open borders, opioids, failing communities, families in crisis.
And they've told us, you know, it's all fine.
It was inevitable and it's for the best.
But everything that really did make America great short, I mean, the people of this country are great.
I really believe that.
They're doing their part, but they're just, you know, gulping water every day, in large part because of burdensome government taxation and regulation.
And that part of society has changed dramatically.
And you're right.
We have given up all of our industrial capabilities, even manufacturing of our medicines and necessary supplies, leading into a pandemic.
And we saw that disaster unfold right before our eyes.
Yeah, so when you give up your industry, like the ability to make things, you're not just giving up the ability to make things.
It leaves you vulnerable, but there's also jobs and good jobs that are associated with that.
It's a twofer there, you know, the double benefit.
So what happens when those jobs go away?
Well, when those jobs go away, people get divorced.
Families fall apart.
People never get married.
They don't have kids.
You lose the PTA president.
You lose the little league coach.
You lose the deacon at the church.
Communities start to implode and fracture.
And if you don't have community and you don't have family, you don't have a country.
I mean, that is the bedrock of any society to be successful.
You need these things to be stable.
But then you add to it hysteria.
You know, the hysteria of, like, literally, if you think about it, for 30 years now, especially in the last 20, we have a higher education system paid for by taxpayers in this country that infuse into the minds of young Americans that the country is actually not a special place.
It is a terrible place.
America is a terrible place with a history we should be ashamed of.
And, you know, people graduate, and today these people that came through that system are CEOs and generals, and they run important bureaucracies.
They control the media, and obviously they control academia, too.
So we're in a real tough spot here.
We need to wake up before it's too late.
I want to ask you specifically about China.
I have been saying there's a new axis of evil, and that is the communist Chinese.
It is their goal right now to surpass the United States as the world's lone superpower.
It is their goal to replace the U.S. dollar as the world's currency.
It is their goal to be the dominant military force on this earth, and they're making every move possible.
You have a whole chapter about the rise of China, but China now aligned with Russia, aligned now with Iran, brokering deals with former allies like Saudi Arabia and Iran.
I didn't think I'd see that in my lifetime, especially after the alliance Donald Trump created in his presidency, where all these countries were aligned against China and standing against Iran, especially a nuclear-armed Iran.
How bad is this threat?
I mean, you know, Tony Winkin Blinken is going to see his counterpart in China, and they're lecturing him that the U.S. needs to stay out of Chinese business.
They're threatening our fighter jets in international airspace, and they're threatening our Navy and international waterways.
And, of course, a spy balloon.
There's no consequences, Senator.
Well, out there, we have leaders now in office at the highest levels who openly in speeches talk about how the country is a hateful place.
The country is a racist place.
And so in the first meeting between the Chinese and Americans under this administration, the Chinese basically sat there, wagged their finger at us, and humiliated us, lecturing us, using our own words.
Like, who are you to tell China anything?
By your own admission, you guys are a racist, bigoted country.
So I imagine you'll get more of that when Blinken goes over there.
But as far as China's ambitions, I don't think we have to guess.
They say it.
I mean, they say it openly.
I mean, I would argue we are already in the middle.
They've declared a Cold War against us, and Biden just fails to even begin to talk about it.
Well, this is more dangerous than the Cold War because Russia, the Soviet Union, was never an industrial or technological rival to the United States or even an economic one.
They were a military rival and a geopolitical one, but they didn't have – these guys are everything rival to us.
They seek not just to replace the U.S. dollars as a global reserve currency, but they want their economy to be bigger than ours.
They want their companies to be better than ours.
They want their military to be more powerful than ours.
At every level, they are challenging.
And they say it openly.
Gee has said that they are going to be the grave diggers of capitalism.
And what they are basically saying is the grave diggers of America as the world's most powerful country.
I imagine watching not just the events of this week, but all this other hysteria going on in the country, you know, and all the cultural rot that's happening.
Well, by the way, this is unfolding in real time.
If you looked at the Drudge Report today, the kingdom, meaning the Saudi kingdom and China are undermining the U.S. all over the Middle East.
You know, we see that with China brokering the deal with the Saudis and Iran.
We see that with them brokering a deal with the Saudis and Syria.
We see the UAE and Egypt now aligning themselves with Vladimir Putin.
Now, when Donald Trump was president, we had an alliance that I didn't think I'd see either in our lifetime, and that was the U.S., Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the Saudis, and the Emirates.
I didn't think that would happen in my lifetime, but it did.
It did.
And, you know, I think ultimately there, when you look at the Abraham Accords that were mocked at the time, the Biden administration is bragging about it and claiming it as if it was their own.
That's something that happened under Donald Trump, not under Joe Biden.
But I also think we have to understand something.
Let's be real here, okay?
These guys watch television.
Like, they see American, they see this guy tripping over sandbags at a military event.
They see him saying ridiculous things.
I think today he said we're going to build a train that goes over the Indian, from the Pacific, I guess from California across the Pacific into the Indian Ocean.
Now, maybe he misspoke, but it happens all the time.
They watch this stuff and they say, that's the guy in charge of that country.
So do we act like they don't notice this?
Not to mention all the other stuff happening in this country on a daily basis, how our institutions have been politicized and weaponized.
And I think that what they've concluded is that it's encouraging them to move forward on this.
I think they've lost not just fear, but respect for the United States.
And they think that their runway is a lot longer and their latitude a lot wider to move around the world and do whatever they want.
You devote three specific chapters in the book to topics that people don't want to talk about.
Chapter 7, Anti-American Inc., Chapter 8, The Liberal Culture War.
Chapter 9, American Marxism in Action.
And you end the book with chapter 10, A Time for Choosing, made famous, a line by Ronald Reagan.
And I look at what you're saying here is there are people actively that want to change America from what made it great and free and prosperous and the envy of the world.
And frankly, if we follow their lead, we will be nothing but weakened and dependent on the lifeblood of the world's economy and in a state of decline that's not going to end.
We have always had people in America who don't think America is special, that actually think America's evil and terrible.
We have never had so many of them in such positions of importance and power.
They're almost not just, they're not even balanced about it.
It is all right.
This is the worst place on earth.
You have hosts on television talking about how is what the Taliban does to women different than what we do here in America.
It's stuff like that that would have sounded absurd 10, 5 years ago to say.
Today, that stuff is said routinely, as if it were not even plausible, much less true.
And we've just never had so many people that have such a distaste for historic America and what it's been.
And they've disfigured our history.
And the problem is they've now been producing for 30 years.
All the people that are now in important management positions from the corporate world to government are products of the system that infused us and a culture that encourages it.
Quick break.
We'll have more with Senator Marco Rubio.
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Florida Senator Marco Rubio is with us.
He has a new book just out today in bookstores around the country, Decades of Decadence, How Our Spoiled Elites Blew America's Inheritance of Liberty, Security, and Prosperity.
Bookstores around the country, Hannity.com, Amazon.com.
Let me ask you this, because, you know, I've been talking a lot, obviously, about the legal issues involving former President Trump.
And I've been talking about a double standard, a dual justice system, and whether the FBI is politicized and the DOJ is weaponized.
And of course, then James Comer is doing a deep dive, and we're finding a lot of information about how much money from all these foreign countries the Biden family got in exchange for what?
What services were performed?
Because in Ukraine, you know, Hunter Biden admits he had no experience in energy, oil, gas, coal, or Ukraine, but he's being paid a fortune and his father leverages a billion taxpayer dollars, you know, to get a prosecutor fired who's investigating his son.
Yeah.
And I got to be honest, Senator, if we don't have equal justice or application of our laws, as far as I'm concerned, this country's done.
It's over.
Yeah, so if in fact now our system of government can be weaponized to target political opponents and ignore anything that might implicate your allies or yourself, then you don't have a system of justice.
You have a system of injustice.
But I would argue this, too.
The key point right now, and let's not get ahead of ourselves, it's not the details of the allegations that have been made.
Clearly, those allegations are made.
It doesn't make them true.
It means they're allegations.
But did the FBI follow up on them?
That's the core of the whistleblower complaint, as I understand it, and that is the FBI was given this information, and they didn't even do anything to find out if any of it was true.
And it reminds you that when they were giving a dossier that turned out to be completely fake, we spent three years and millions of dollars chasing elements of that in this country.
They jumped on that all over the place.
They leaked it.
You have people here claiming it was true and they knew it was true.
Turned out not to be true.
So that is an example of an unequal application of the law.
If in fact, the FBI spent three years, millions of dollars, and other agencies chasing a dossier, but has done nothing with the apparent law.
Well, we now know from the Durham report, there wasn't a single thing in the dossier that Hillary bought and paid for that became the foundation of four Pfizer warrants.
Not one thing was ever corroborated, and yet the FBI used it.
And according to Andrew McCabe, former deputy FBI director, they never would have gotten approval from the Pfizer court but for the dirty dossier.
And what about all those people that said that they verified that it was authentic?
You know, if I lied to a FISA court judge three times like James Comey, I doubt I'd be doing this radio show today, Senator.
Yeah, and I think the central point here is that they took efforts to try to confirm the dossier, and they ultimately couldn't.
If they did nothing on the Biden allegations, and what does that tell you?
It tells you that if it's about Biden, they won't lift a finger.
They don't want to look at it.
If it's about Trump or a Republican or a conservative, they'll chase it down to the very end.
And all the while leaking to the media all about it so that they can damage you politically.
And I think that is the kind of thing that destroys credibility.
One more thing I want to say, Sean.
I think it's outrageous, these attacks.
It is a coordinated effort to attack Judge Eileen Cannon, an excellent judge, someone I personally asked to consider, her being on the court, and she agreed to.
This is a graduate of the top of her class in Michigan law, years of experience as a U.S. attorney, someone who could have made a lot of money in private practice, decided to go ahead and be a federal judge, and they are just attacking nonstop.
Remember, you can't say a word about the special counsel.
You can't say a word about the people on that team because that's undermining the system.
But it is a coordinated, systemic, and relentless attack.
It's already begun, attacking the judge, attacking her consistently.
Well, now they're even talking about going judge and jurisdiction shopping in New Jersey and piling on even more charges on top of what I'm sure is going to happen in Fulton County, Georgia, on top of what I would expect that the special counsel will do in Washington, D.C., where Donald Trump got 5% of the vote.
I'm sure he's going to have a real shot at a fair jury there and a fair jury in New York City.
I don't think so.
No, I think this is a very disturbing moment in history and very divisive for the country.
And clearly, the motivation behind this.
You know, you don't, look, I don't think those documents belong anywhere outside of secure facility or what have you.
That said, this is a prosecution that should not have been brought.
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So Donald Trump goes back to Bedminster after the arrangement yesterday, 37 charges, 31 basically of the same charges, what we call stacking charges against an individual, followed by the other six.
And the question is, you know, what legal vulnerability exists here for the president?
The president went back to Bedminster and he addressed a crowd, talked about this being a political persecution, how Joe Biden will be remembered as the most corrupt president in history, and then going on talking about the $5 million allegation in the 1023 form that Christopher Wray has been ever so reluctant to hand over to the House Oversight Committee and James Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley.
Let me play these for you.
Today we witnessed the most evil and heinous abuse of power in the history of our country.
Very sad thing to watch.
A corrupt sitting president had his top political opponent arrested on fake and fabricated charges of which he and numerous other presidents would be guilty right in the middle of a presidential election in which he is losing very badly.
This is called election interference and yet another attempt to rig and steal a presidential election.
More importantly, it's a political persecution like something straight out of a fascist or communist nation.
This day will go down in infamy and Joe Biden will forever be remembered as not only the most corrupt president in the history of our country, but perhaps even more importantly, the president who, together with a band of his closest thugs, misfits, and Marxists tried to destroy American democracy.
But they will fail and we will win bigger and better than ever before.
The FBI, Twitter files, and so much more.
It's all been a battle of disinformation, one thing after the other, and all to protect the radical left misfits.
It's also no coincidence that these charges against me came down.
The very same day, evidence revealed Joe Biden took a $5 million bribe from Ukraine, took a $5 million bribe.
But the FBI and the Justice Department don't even want to talk about it.
They showed something on television tonight.
It had zero time on the three major networks, zero.
But my impeachment had almost all the time.
I think I had 351 minutes.
They had no minutes.
All right, joining us now, the author of the bestseller, Get Trump, Alan Dershowitz, is with us.
A lot to get to.
Let's talk first about the 37 charges against the president as you read the indictment.
You know, it's very interesting because, you know, you get different points of view.
I'm not so sure this is the slam dunk everybody seems to think it is.
Well, compared to the New York case, it's a slam dunk, but anything, even a jaywalking ticket, would be a slam dunk compared to the New York case, the Bragg case, which was based neither on law nor fact.
This one has that one, I wouldn't call it a smoking gun, but it's a gun with fingerprints on it, and that is the waving of a document.
We don't know what was in the document.
The document isn't in evidence in front of a writer and saying, I could have declassified this, but I didn't.
That the other side is claiming, the prosecution is claiming, is an admission that he knew he had in his possession material that he did not classify.
So that's going to be the hardest piece of evidence.
So let me ask you, Professor, this question, because, you know, if you turn on TV, I mean, we already know the media hates Trump.
They lied about him for three long years as it relates to Trump-Russia collusion that never happened.
We just get the Durham report back.
We know all of that's false.
You know, the media that was so outraged that the president in a phone call with Zelensky in Ukraine asking and demanding that he be responsible with U.S. taxpayer dollars that the president's likely to send over, that was a big deal.
You know, that was the hearsay whistleblower case that led to, you know, impeachment one.
But meanwhile, we had at that time Joe Biden on tape bragging that he leveraged $1 billion to demand in six hours that a prosecutor in Ukraine get fired.
And we now know that prosecutor was fired.
Son of a bee, they did it.
And the guy that they fired was investigating Hunter Biden and Burisma.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that investigation should have gone forward.
It should go forward.
We should see the documents that people try to suppress.
And we should see them in redacted form, obviously, to protect the identity of people who might get hurt.
But we have to see those documents.
We can't, this whole process hasn't been transparent enough.
We haven't seen enough of the documents relating to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
And we are not going to see the trial of Donald Trump unless the judge changes the views and allows us to see this most important trial of many of our lifetimes.
And so we have to have televising of trials of this kind, and we have to have disclosure of documents of that kind.
We don't have trials by secret in the United States.
So when the media and their montage go about what about ism, what about ism, what about ism.
And I'll play it for you.
And so what about ism?
I have another word for it.
I have other words for it, and that is equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws, professor.
I agree with you.
I wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal about six months ago in praise of What's Aboutism, saying it's the best argument you can make.
You can have to ask the question, what about Hillary Clinton?
What about Sandy Berger?
What about Joe Biden?
What about Vice President Pence?
That's the essence of eco-protection.
What about ism?
And nobody should knock that.
And I attacked Hillary Clinton for wearing a what's about ism hat, as if to mock that argument.
That argument is the essence of equal protection.
Remember that Jack Smith got in front of a television audience and said there's one law and it applies equally to all.
How would he know?
He was only asked to prosecute and investigate Donald Trump.
He wasn't given the mandate to look at all the problems that occur when former officials leave office and take documents with them.
That should have been the mandate.
He then could have looked at all the cases and decide which are the most culpable, which are the least culpable, and make a comparative what about it decision.
Well, because I think equal application is the proper term for what about ism.
I agree with you.
Equal application and equal justice under the law, those are supposed to be bedrock principles.
At least I was taught so.
Let me play for you.
Let's take a look back and you tell me if the comparison is justified.
This is James Comey's infamous July 2016 press conference that ends with no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Now, he's talking about the 30,000 emails of Hillary Clinton that he had access to.
He's not talking about the 3,000 emails that were deleted with bleach pit and devices destroyed with hammers and SIM cards removed.
And that to me would show intent.
He says at the end of this, you know, no prosecutor would prosecute.
Well, we couldn't find intention.
Wasn't it Hillary's intention to delete the 33,000 emails by having somebody apply bleach pit?
Wasn't there intention to destroy evidence, destroying BlackBerries and iPhones with hammers?
Let me play for you.
Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the Department of Justice.
In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence that the FBI helps collect.
Although we don't normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate given the evidence.
In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.
Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before deciding whether to bring charges.
There are obvious considerations like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent.
Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person's actions and how similar situations have been handled in the past.
In looking back at our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.
All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information or vast quantities of information exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct or indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice.
We do not see those things here.
All right, so is that equal justice under the law, Professor?
No, because we don't see any indication of disloyalty to the United States.
You know, they use the term Espionage Act.
That should be struck from this trial.
There's no allegation of any here.
And the issue of willfulness, of course we know that Hillary Clinton, who I know is a friend of mine and I support it, of course the destruction was willful.
Her claim, of course, is that there was no classified information there.
It was her hairdresser appointments, etc.
But we have to take a word to that.
Once you destroy evidence, there's no way of challenging your assertion.
You know, people say it's always in the cover-up, but many cover-ups work.
And it's conceivable, of course, that this was a cover-up that worked, that there were many, many classified documents that were destroyed claiming that they were hairdresser appointments.
We'll never know.
Now, there wouldn't be enough to get a prosecution because you have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
But I'm not sure there's enough here to infer the kind of willfulness that the statute requires.
The willfulness the statute requires isn't just that they knew they had classified material.
There has to be some evil intention, purpose behind the class behind the holding of the material in order to meet the Hillary Clinton standard.
And, you know, it's hard to find it here.
Yes, maybe he knew he had it.
Maybe he thought he declassified it.
Maybe he was wrong about that, but we don't convict people for making honest mistakes.
Well, then we now have another whatabout-ism.
I mean, there were four separate locations where top secret classified documents were found in Joe Biden's possession.
His home with his precious garage and Corvette, his beach home, the Penn Biden Center, University of Delaware.
Nobody was raided there, just like nobody raided Hillary.
They only raided Mar-a-Lago.
And now we have all these allegations, and I knew it was a big deal at the time when Joe Biden demanded that, well, said he would leverage $1 billion taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor fired in Ukraine, who turned out it was investigating his son who had no experience by his own admission.
He said it on Good Morning America and was being paid a fortune.
Now, why would a vice president ever want a Ukrainian prosecutor fired?
That doesn't make sense to me, Professor.
Number one.
And number two, now we're hearing that they had this 1023 form by somebody, a credible intel source of the FBI, because they paid the guy hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And the FBI has been trying to keep it from the House Oversight Committee.
Well, it certainly was at least as credible as the information that was the basis for a FISA warrant on the other side.
So there has to be equal justice, not only in prosecution, but in investigation.
And we must see that, those 302 forms, we must see the forms that make the most serious allegation possible that the Vice President of the United States, now president, received money in exchange for doing favors.
I hope the information is false.
I think it may be false, but I need to know for sure, and so do you, and so do all Americans.
And so we have to be transparent.
All right, we continue with Professor Alan Dershowitz as we discuss all the happenings involving Donald Trump and the Biden family syndicate.
Let me play Ted Cruz with a deputy FBI director yesterday grilling this guy on this.
Last month, a whistleblower brought to light the existence in the FBI of a report in FD 1023 in which the informant alleges that President Biden and his family members engaged in a $5 million bribery scheme during his time as vice president.
Deputy Director Abadi, is it true that the FBI has a report making those allegations?
I'm not going to comment on that, Senator.
And why is that?
I'm just not going to comment on information we received, investigations around.
Do you owe an obligation to the American people to be candid about evidence of corruption by the President of the United States?
This is an area that I'm not going to get into with you, Senator.
Well, I understand you don't want to, and that's why people are mad at the FBI, because you're stonewalling and covering up serious allegations of evidence of corruption from the president.
So in warp speed, they indict Trump.
They've had the Hunter Biden laptop since 2019, Professor.
Yeah, and Ted Cruz, very familiar because he used to cross-examine me that way when I was his professor at Harvard Law School.
I would have paid to see that.
He was one of the most interesting students you could ever have because he wouldn't back down.
And like some Americans today, some students in the class didn't like him because he was being tough on the professor.
I loved it.
I want students to be tough on me.
And I think senators have to be tough on members of the FBI.
And Ted is 100% right.
You may have to redact.
You may have to protect the names of sources and methods.
Yep, agreed.
I agree completely on you may have to do that, but they should have to give in to the demand of oversight.