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June 29, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Gordon Chang - June 28th, Hour 3
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Now, with all the new developments and all of the WhatsApp messages, if you don't know what WhatsApp, it's an encrypted message delivery system that supposedly, you know, people can't hack into, that, you know, you can hide on your phone, it disappears.
It doesn't work.
I don't know.
I don't use any of these encrypted apps.
I tried one once, and I'm like, this is too much work.
I don't feel like dealing with it.
Now we're dealing with something that is far more challenging to this country and to the world.
And that is what I have been describing as a new axis of evil.
And that is the alliance of China and Russia and Iran.
And now even our own allies are peeling away from us, betting on the fact that it's more likely that China is going to come out on top and the U.S. is going to fall even further behind, especially since Joe Biden has abdicated his role as the leader of the free world and America's leadership role on the world stage.
Add to that now all the financial issues that have come up, you know, as it relates to the Biden family.
And we've got ourselves one hell of a problem in this country.
You know, the allegations that Biden appointed U.S. attorney was not allowing Hunter Biden to be charged in his district and allegedly was blocked from bringing charges in California.
And we have six whistleblowers now coming forward.
And then, of course, we have the Biden family shaking down China with all this money.
And you have to wonder, well, how does the communist Chinese, how is it possible that they were able to, you know, send a spy balloon over Alaskan airspace down the west coast of Canada into Idaho, all the way across,
you know, the middle states in our country into Montana, down to Kansas and Missouri, up into Kentucky, and then out the coast of the Carolinas, sending intelligence back in real time, and there were no consequences for it.
Just like Russia was able to take down one of our drones and there were no consequences for it.
And then we're getting all these WhatsApp messages, you know, that, you know, I'm sitting here with my father, and I'd like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
And I'll make certain that between the man sitting next to me, Joe Biden, and every person he knows and my ability to hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.
And I'm sitting here waiting for your call with my father.
How interesting, days later, you know, monies end up in the coppers of the Biden family.
Within a week, about $5 million transferred.
But anyway, then the demands continued.
We have more new WhatsApp messages.
Hey, if you think this is about money, I can make $5 million at any law firm in America, Hunter Braggs.
I doubt it.
The crack addict, and they claim he was on crack at the time.
I don't think was capable of earning $5 million a year.
The Bidens are the best I know at doing exactly what the chairman wants from this partnership.
Let's not quibble over peanuts.
The peanuts he's talking about, he wants a $10 million payment, not a $5 million payment.
So I guess they're quibbling over millions of peanuts, lots of peanuts.
You can buy a lot of peanuts for $10 million.
Now, on top of that, we've even had more WhatsApp messages that have been released.
And what we're discovering is that this Chinese energy company that eventually sent the money in messages from August of 2017, Hunter pushed that $10 million would need to be invested annually into this joint venture with this big Chinese energy conglomerate, CEFC, and called the $5 million proposal new to me and not acceptable to me.
Anyway, the House Oversight Committee's Twitter account said that Hunter was messaging a guy by the name of Gongwin Dong, a CEFC China energy associate who used the nickname Kevin.
You know, I'm tired of this, Kevin.
I can make $5 million in salary from any law firm in America at a time now that they're saying Hunter was using crack cocaine.
And if you think about the money, it's not.
The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the chairman wants of this partnership.
Excuse me.
What is the chairman of what company?
Oh, the Chinese energy company.
Well, what are the Bidens so uniquely qualified to offer a Chinese energy company?
I mean, it's just influence peddling at the highest level.
Well, now we're compromising national security.
And when you listen to Joe Biden talk about China, doesn't sound, doesn't build a lot of confidence in my mind that he has any intention of challenging the communist Chinese that have pretty much openly declared a Cold War against us.
Militarily, they're challenging our ships in the China Sea and in the Pacific in international waterways.
They're challenging our fighter jets and international airwaves.
And there's no consequences for anything they do.
Just praise from Joe.
China is going to eat our lunch.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
They can't even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east.
I mean, in the West, they can't figure out how they're going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system.
I mean, you know, they're not bad folks, folks, but guess what?
They're not competition for us.
A more prosperous China will mean more demand for American-made goods and services and more jobs back home in the United States of America.
So our desire for your prosperity is not born out of some nobility.
It is in our self-interest that China continue to prosper.
When I've spent a lot of time with President Xi, even he acknowledges that the growth and progress in China has been a direct relationship of the stability that has been encouraged by U.S. presidents.
We're not trying to contain China.
We're not trying to slow down Chinese growth.
The growth of China is overwhelmingly in our interest.
We've recognized that the United States-China relations generate global economic benefit, not just to both our countries, but global benefit.
Last year, our trade with China supported over 500,000 jobs here in the United States.
There was a debate here in the United States, and quite frankly, throughout most of the West, is whether a rising China was in the interest of the United States and the wider world.
As a young member of the Foreign Relations Committee, I wrote and I said, and I believe then what I believe now, that a rising China is a positive, positive development, not only for China, but for America and the world writ large.
I guess I want to ask you, do you think that this is going to, in fact, be a major issue?
And are you vulnerable on this issue at all because of your son's business dealings in China?
No, I don't believe so at all.
My son's business dealings were not anything worth everybody that he's talking about, not even remotely.
Yeah, okay, that gives me confidence while the communist Chinese continue their intellectual property theft, their unfair trade practices, their devaluing of the U.S. dollar, and their commitment towards removing the U.S. dollar as the world's currency.
Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China and the Great U.S.-China Tech War, is with us.
And breaking news on 710WOR.
This is Jeff McKinney in from the WR newsroom, and there is a rescue scene in Garfield, New Jersey that is underway.
Two firefighters who were in a boat in the Passaic River went over a spillway there.
Their boat partially sank.
One firefighter rescued by helicopter.
The second is still on that boat.
He looks okay, but he is still in a sinking boat.
The firefighter who was rescued apparently is all right.
So we are watching.
It looks as though all will end well.
But again, we have a firefighter stuck in a partially sunk boat in the middle of the Passaic River, which is rushing very quickly at that point.
And the attempts to rescue him by helicopter were aborted.
Apparently, they couldn't make contact correctly with him to lift him out of that boat.
So we're watching this closely.
And again, the expectation is that everything's going to be okay.
And we'll bring you the latest throughout the afternoon.
Now it's back to Sean.
Do this.
Now, that certainly has tainted the Biden family.
You know, Biden also has just been misguided.
As Robert Gates said in his 2014 memoir, Joe Biden has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy and national security decision of the last four decades.
You put those two reasons together, Sean, and you can see that our China policy has been benefiting China, not the United States of America.
Let's get your take on this, Robert Lighthiser.
Well, I would say, first of all, listening to that eclage, Sean, was just, I mean, it was breathtaking.
As someone who's been fighting this battle on behalf of America since, as you said, the Reagan administration, it's breathtaking everything that he said, that he doesn't seem to understand the problem.
I would point out that these notions that arising China is good for America, that's what they argued in 2000 when Clinton and Biden voted for giving China most favored nation.
Since then, we've probably transferred six or seven billion dollars worth of our wealth to China.
We have built the biggest army in the world, and it's in China, the biggest navy in the world, and it's in China.
This is, it is so misguided and so scary to hear it all put together.
And another point I would make: there is no difference between the Chinese Communist Party and that Chinese energy company.
There are no private companies there.
They're all working to make China the dominant power in the world, all of them.
Quick break more with Gordon Chang and Robert Lighthizer as we continue on the other side.
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All right, we continue with Gordon Chang, Robert Lighthizer, and your calls coming up, 800-941-Sean.
And by the way, the war on pizza will get to at the bottom of this half hour.
Why would the United States of America be allowing Gordon Chang, the communist Chinese, to be buying up thousands and thousands of acres of farmland, ranch land, land near military installations?
Can you help me with that?
No, there's no reason why we should.
As we've learned in places like Oklahoma, Chinese parties have been basing humans trafficking operations on agricultural land.
And as they say in Oklahoma, yeah, the Chinese are building fences on their property.
Well, of course, everybody has fences in Oklahoma, but Americans in Oklahoma build their fences to keep people out.
The Chinese have been building fences to keep people in.
There's, of course, the issue of espionage.
There are all of these things, Sean.
And until we get to the bottom of it, I don't think that we should be allowing Chinese parties to own land.
We know the criminal activities that have been occurring there, and I believe that we should be using forfeiture statutes when we find out that Chinese parties have actually been using their land for criminal purposes.
This is just unacceptable.
This is the American heartland, and the Chinese are poisoning it.
Well, Biden, by the way, was on his egg game.
I mean, I've got to give him a lot of credit because he confused India with China and Ukraine with Iraq, not once, but twice.
It's hard to tell, but he's clearly losing to war in Iraq.
He's losing to war at home.
And he has come with a prior around the world.
It's not just NATO.
It's not just the European Union.
It's Japan.
It's, you know, it's 48.
I really can't take much more of this, Gordon, because America really doesn't have a cognitively functioning president.
Yes, and he misperceives China.
And Chinese leaders, I think, look at that and are taking advantage of it because we can see the way they act towards the United States versus the way they act during the Trump administration.
The Trump administration showed strength.
It deterred China.
What we have seen during the Biden years was that they have not deterred China.
They have not deterred Russia, which is the reason why we have the war in Ukraine and why we have China and Russia destabilizing North Africa.
And the reason why North Africa is important is because it's the gateway to Europe.
The countries in North Africa can prevent the flows of people and also terrorism going across the Mediterranean.
And by the way, in Sudan, where they are now triggering an insurgency that looks like a war, that borders the Red Sea, which means that they can control the Suez Canal if they actually grab control of Sudan.
That is pretty chilling, what you're describing here.
And I've got to believe, you know, Mr. Lighthauser, that, in fact, this has a lot to do with all the monies that the Biden family got from China because, you know, look, we know that Libya had a dossier on Hunter Biden that was, you know, a mile wide.
I can only imagine the intel that they were able to get from the former crack addict and hooker lover, Hunter Biden, and how compromised this family is in the dossier that the Chinese, the Russians, Ukrainians, and everyone else has on them.
Is this family compromised by China?
Are they incapable of dealing from any position of strength?
Well, it's hard for me to believe that anyone can look at the geopolitical competition, the adversity between the United States and China and not conclude that they are our number one problem.
But this fellow seems not to have done it.
China's going around the world telling everyone that we're in decline and the ascendancy.
That's their basic.
Well, Netanyahu's going to see China, not the U.S.
And every single thing we're doing is adding to that dialogue, is helping them make that case to all the other countries of the world.
The weakness, the decisions not to take action against them, the decisions not to put out the data on COVID's origin, the decisions not to limit investment, all these various things, the decision not to complain about the spy balloon, all these things are talking points for the Chinese Communist Party around the world to attack the United States system.
All right, Robert Lighthizer, thank you so much for being with us.
We appreciate it.
And Gordon Cheng, thank you.
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All right, let's get to our busy telephones.
Many of you have been very patient here.
Rick in New York.
Rick, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, thanks, Sean.
I appreciate you taking the call.
I'm a truck driver of my own business, and I'm in and out of Florida quite a bit.
And boy, what a great state, but so much going on.
Can we really afford to lose a great governor like Ron DeSantis at this point in time with migration going there, population is growing, infrastructure's booming as well as incomplete?
You know, with that statement, you know, I want to move to Donald Trump in his presidency and his candidacy.
On the first term, he ran with the platform of draining the swamp, in which I felt he was very successful.
Where's Mitch McConnell?
Where's Nancy Pelosi?
That's part of it.
But the contrast is that we have the swamp still engaged with dirty politics, criminal activities.
You know, the Biden family is just out of control, out of control, and they're comparing it to the swamp now putting President Trump in that same category.
What is Donald Trump going to run on this time?
I think he's going to run on making America great again and reinstituting the policies that were successful.
I mean, he's going to run on his record.
He's going to run on going back to the policies that worked.
You know, look at the economy.
Tell me what's working.
Tell me what Joe has done that is successful.
You know, Joe Biden is kicking off his Bidenomics campaign.
You know, at the same time, the leading economic indicator declines for the 14th straight month in a row in a 40-year high of inflation and interest rates have now more than doubled in this country.
It's stifling all new home construction.
Sale of pre-existing homes now at a low.
Home prices now beginning to decline.
What has he done?
How's the borders looking?
You know, it's just anything he's touched is a disaster.
And this guy can't even tell the difference between India and Iraq.
It is so beyond frustrating to me that I don't have patience for it anymore.
I don't.
And my only fear is if we lose this election, I don't know what happens.
I really think the consequences are dire for the country and the world because the world needs a strong America.
And we have a very, very weak president that is a complete cognitive mess.
It's a disaster.
Anyway, hope that answers your question.
Now, if I had my own way, I would rather, you know, in the course of any primary, there's going to end up being a fight.
Always is.
I could tell you, go back, you know, look at John McCain and George W. Bush.
There's always going to come that moment where they go for each other's throats.
I wish it wasn't starting out that way, but it is what it is.
I accept politics as the blood sport that it is.
And I can only tell you that, you know, it's going to be Republican voters that are going to decide.
There's no doubt that the deep state is doing everything in its power to make it nearly impossible for Donald Trump to run, but I don't think it's going to stop him.
I never met a guy like this.
Most people would collapse under the never-ending pressure.
You know, a Russia hoax investigation, you know, conspiracy theory spread by the media, the Democratic Party for three years.
And then we find out none of it was true.
Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have been open.
That there was nothing in the dirty dossier at all whatsoever that was proven to be true.
That Hillary Clinton, they didn't raid Chappaqua for top secret classified information, nor was she held accountable for destroying subpoenaed emails.
You know, we have the, you know, the weaponized DOJ, your weaponized government, your weaponized FBI, you know, pre-bunking the very real Hunter Biden laptop that they had already authenticated.
It's corrupt.
It's rotten to the core.
And I'll tell you, Republicans now, they've got some tough choices to make here.
And we need to get to the bottom.
What did Joe know?
When did he know it?
And how much money did Joe Biden maybe make off these business deals?
Because if he did, it's going to be called what it is, bribery.
It's not just pay-to-play.
It's not just influence peddling, what the 1023 form is saying.
It's not what the IRS agents are saying.
And a cover-up the likes of which this country's never seen before.
This is the most corrupt president we've ever had.
And I don't think they're going to escape it right now.
That's my feeling today based on everything that's now coming out.
But time will tell.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Brenda is in Oregon.
Brenda, how are you?
Glad you called.
What are you doing in Oregon?
Why are you out there?
Born and raised, and only there because my kids can be around my parents.
But I'm in southern Oregon.
Well, southern Oregon's a little nicer.
What, like, you know, Medford, Grants Pass, that kind of area?
Yeah.
Oh, I know the area well.
Yeah, yeah.
I think because there was a gal that, anyway, my dad went to the doctor and she said that she was your, that you were her brother's sister.
Anyway, there's, I don't know if she's a nurse or something, but traveling.
Yeah, no, my sister is a nerve.
All three of my sisters were nurses, but they all got out of it.
My dad met her, so yeah.
Yeah, she was the best at what she did.
She really was.
She's the nicer Hannity, trust me, than I am.
Everybody that knows the two of us knows that to be true.
Well, okay, so two things, and I'll be quick.
But so benefiting from this money, Hunter was complaining about paying his dad's bill.
Plus, he was paying $50,000 a month for the Delaware home in rent.
So I think that's one thing right there.
Well, he also complained about paying half his income to pops and the home repairs, and the big guy got his 10%.
That's all implicated on the Hunter laptop.
Yeah, but where's he getting that money?
Well, from China and from other places.
China, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Mexico, dozen other countries.
We'll find out.
This is what Jim James Comer, by the way, is in studio tonight.
For those of you coming to the Hannity Audience Show, if you haven't signed up, it's Hannity.com if there's any tickets left.
They're absolutely free.
But Comer's in studio tonight.
I'll be listening because I'm on the road almost to Cheyenne, Wyoming.
But the one last thing I wanted to say was the whistleblower, Stephen Friends, what he said is what you need to do is empower local law enforcement, deputize local detectives from sheriffs to police officers, and bring federal charges against the what you need to do is deputize them.
Look, I'll tell you what we need to do.
We need a reboot of the FBI and the Department of Justice.
We need a new FBI director.
We need new top people in terms of the FBI hierarchy.
We need to go through and re-interview every single special agent and rebuild the FBI and return it to its former greatness as the world's premier law enforcement agency.
That's what we need to do.
And Merrick Garland, frankly, I think there's enough evidence out there right now and we'll be hearing more and more in the days to come about how he lied to Congress, likely committed perjury.
Time will tell.
Looks like it.
According to these six IRS whistleblowers, that's what they're accusing him of.
He would need to go.
We need a new FBI director and we need a top-to-bottom change and we need equal justice under the law.
It's not about whataboutism.
It's about equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
Illinois, Fred, next Sean Hannity show.
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
I really appreciate your response to the last two callers because I think that leads into what I'm concerned about.
I'm an old retired football and wrestling coach, and I only mention it because I think the way we go about addressing opponents and meeting challenges seems to be a little bit different than the game plan that the Republicans are using, or even if they even have one.
But my concern is this: there appears to be a total lack, in my opinion, of the hierarchy of the Republican Party doing everything necessary to win that 224 election.
They seem to be all over the board.
They're being taken again down the yellow brick road by the Democrat Party where they're focusing on 1,000 issues.
And I think the focus has to be more narrow-minded.
And the most important thing is winning this election.
And I'm I'm interested in your I well, I got to remember I was I was very, very critical about the Republican Party and and the fact that they are not pushing every Republican, every conservative in the country to overcome this mysterious reluctance and resistance to voting early and voting by mail.
Not a problem in states like Florida.
You better embrace it because that's the system we have, not the one I wish we had, but it's the one we're stuck with.
The second thing is, and by the way, the Republican Party has now announced an effort.
It's called bank your vote.
Good for Ronald McDaniel.
Now, Part B is they now got to build out a legal ballot harvesting effort, especially in swing states, to ensure that we match the efforts of Democrats on the ballot harvesting issue because it's legal in many states.
That means other people can collect other individuals' ballots and hand it in for them.
That's ballot harvesting.
And if Republicans don't match those efforts, they're going to start on Election Day down 200, 500, 750, a million votes.
And that's an awful big margin to make up on Election Day.
And God forbid if it's raining.
So, yeah, I agree completely with you.
Now, I did have a conversation.
I think he might be on TV tonight.
Glenn Young is going to announce an effort in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
And what I've been able to glean is the preliminary plan sounded good to me.
I have questions about it.
I'm not fully endorsing it yet.
But what I heard sounded really good.
And maybe this is something that the Republican National Committee can duplicate.
But if they don't do it, then they ought not be in power.
Period and a sentence.
You better match and surpass the efforts of Democrats and understand, if I had my way, Election Day would be a national holiday.
If I had my way, you know, we'd have same-day voting and we'd have partisan observers watching the voting in every precinct all day long.
And when the polls close, watch the vote counting all night long until they came to a final number.
And then as a result, then you call the race.
We know who wins.
We know who loses, and there's integrity in the system.
But until we get to that point, we're stuck with their system.
And their system, we better match the efforts.
You go to war with the army you have, not the one you wish you have.
And that's the system we're stuck with.
So they better match those efforts.
Okay?
And lastly, you know, I agree with the notion that you've alluded to it, and so is Mark Levin, that the Democrats just seem to be better at winning elections than we are.
They seem to be more organized, better.
Why do you think these people hide in their basement and get away with not debating like Katie Hobbs?
We had Kerry Lake on the show yesterday.
Why do you think that John Federman got to, you know, there were nearly a million votes banked in Pennsylvania before he debated Oz, and he hid in his basement.
How did Joey Biden hide in his basement?
It's the same playbook.
They run negative ad after negative ad, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of them against Republicans.
They don't put themselves in any position where they can be asked any hard questions.
They avoid debates at all costs, if they even participate at all.
And by the time they participate, they probably have banked enough votes to win.
And Republicans have allowed that system to go unchallenged.
2020 was an anomaly.
In terms of COVID, well, we don't have COVID as a problem anymore.
Now we need integrity in our election system.
And these are the measures that I am telling the Republicans that they better adopt or they can expect to lose.
And if they're happy losing, then they ought not be in that position.
Anyway, I honestly don't see any other solution.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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