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Sean, if you want to join us, I notice that you know when you're not held accountable for lying to a FISA court uh with unverifiable debunked information, not once, and in the case of James Comey, three times.
The government did a four times.
Uh, you know, Comey even telling, I think it was Lindsey Graham in a hearing.
Oh, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have spied on uh Carter Page and and have a backdoor into all things President Trump and and the Trump presidency and the Trump campaign.
Uh interesting note, uh, but apparently now on the 2024 election, you can add the 2020 election, the 2016 election, and the FBI involvement.
They pre-bunked the Hunter Biden laptop.
Clearly, when they had a copy of themselves, they could have verified its authenticity in no time.
Uh Comey says on the 24 elections, it has to be Joe.
Of course it has to be Joe.
Joe's protecting the likes of Comey.
And they had and they all have for the longest time.
I mean you may still consider yourself one, but voted for Biden in 2020.
Do you intend to vote for him again?
Or is there anyone on the Republican side you might consider if it's not Trump?
It has to be Joe Biden.
And I'm glad he's willing to serve.
It has to be somebody committed to the rule of law, committed to the values of this country.
And I I'm not talking about policy.
People can disagree about policy.
There are things above those disagreements that all of us should think about the same way.
The president must be someone who abides the law and our constitution.
And there's no one else but Joe Biden.
All right.
Now, speaking of which, James Comer, who heads the House uh government reform oversight committee, uh that has been best investigating the Biden family syndicate.
Uh he spoke out earlier today because the FBI has not been particularly helpful, especially when it comes to this 1023 form that he has been requesting that has that he believes has a credible uh allegation that Joe Biden is vice president accepted money in exchange for specific actions.
And the FBI has been requested again and again and again, and they refuse to cooperate.
So Comer says today, okay, uh that would be obstruction, and uh, we're gonna hold you in contempt, meaning Director Ray.
Listen.
FBI officials confirm that the unclassified FBI generated record has not been disproven and is currently being used in an ongoing investigation.
The confidential human source who provided information about then Vice President Biden being involved in a criminal bribery scheme is a trusted, highly credible informant who has been used by the FBI for over ten years and has been paid over six figures.
These are facts and know about of spin and frankly lies from the White House or Congressional Democrats can change this information.
At the briefing, the FBI again refused to hand over the class unclassified record to the custody of the House Oversight Committee.
And we will now initiate contempt of Congress hearings this Thursday.
All right.
So anyway, joining us now, he was once the chairman of this important committee himself.
Uh now a Fox News colleague, uh Jason Chaffetz is with us, best selling author, by the way.
His brand new book is out today, The Puppeteers, the People Who Control, the People Who Control America.
Not exactly a hey, a a book title that you want to hear about in this great country.
But uh anyway, Congressman, welcome back.
How are you, sir?
Oh, thanks for having me, Sean.
Uh you I bet you're loving your time out of office now being called a pundit.
Well, I am a little jealous of James Comer right now because he is definitely over the target, and they're uh they have the FBI uh uh backpedaling here, um, and it's not good.
It's not good for the country, and they have some serious questions to answer.
All right.
Well, that's happening simultaneously.
We're hearing not one but two separate meetings with Donald Trump's lawyers and the DOJ.
Um rumors are running rampant about a possible indictment as to the Mar-a-Lago documents case.
Uh you know, can you explain that to me, especially in light of Joe Biden and all the varying places that he had documents?
Yeah, no, we can't it's just such a double standard.
You talk about it every day, Sean.
You and I have been talking about this for years.
The unequal application of justice just has to stop.
You ha we have to have a different president.
I totally disagree with James.
The number one argument for electing uh Donald Trump or somebody, you know, on the Republican side of the aisle for president is that James Comey does not cannot afford to allow a Republican in there to have a Republican attorney general.
He he's scared to death of that.
You know, I mean the thing is is that if you go back and you were a part of our coverage, a lot of our coverage when it what came to the 2016 election and lying to Pfizer courts, and you know, who got held accountable in those instances?
Can you name anybody?
Because really nobody got held accountable.
No, we had over a thousand pages of documentation from the inspector general.
Uh you have the Durham Report, you have the Mueller report, which really also uh adds to that as well.
Nobody held accountable.
Even the person that with forged documents as an FBI attorney didn't even lose his law license for goodness sake.
So the lawlessness continues and and nobody is held accountable.
Nobody is fired, nobody uh loses their security clearance.
The 51 people that came up with this bogus letter to try to debunk, you know, uh the Hunter Biden laptop, why do they still have security clearances?
It it it that is so uh it's just offensive, and I'm tired of talking about it.
I want to actually have some changes done, but you're gonna have to change the Senate, you're gonna have to change the White House, you're gonna have to defund these people, you're gonna have to reorganize the thing top to bottom, and you're gonna have to have some somebody with some serious, you know, gravitas to get in there and actually do it.
Well, let me ask you, um, because you know Michael Horowitz, let me ask you about Michael Horowitz.
I mean, you know, he came out with a stinging report and it had referrals in the report, but yet nothing happens.
I mean, in your book, you go into great specificity in detail about monies and slush funds and you know, partisan priorities, how they're funded.
I mean, and I want to get into that in a second here, but it seems like the people that are most protected are the people with the highest levels of power, and and there's no accountability for these people.
Yeah, I I I write about in the Puppeteers, this new book that it just literally is coming out today, Follow the Money, Follow the People.
But in addition to that, I gotta tell you, part of that accountability is the courts.
And you and I have talked about this before, Sean.
How when can you ever go to a lie to the court?
Where's John Roberts on this?
I'm sorry, but the Chief Justice of the United States of America is in charge of the FISA court.
How can they get lied to with a forged document in their exactly zero consequences?
I've never understood that.
Michael Horowitz is the inspector general, has made dozens of criminal referrals.
Um the inspector general is not empowered to prosecute people.
The inspector general is not empowered to interview or investigate any attorneys within the Department of Justice.
That has to change.
If he can't, if he bumps into a an attorney, he has to back off.
And and that is so wrong.
It's not true in any other department agency except the Department of Justice.
So I'm reading your book, The Puppeteers, the people that control the people who control America, and I'm thinking, you know, it the the depth of the the lack of knowledge of the American people when it comes to, you know, the people behind the scenes that actually pull the the power strings, if you will.
Um, you expose a lot of this, and you know, for example, who are these people pulling the strings, setting the agendas with all the power, creating the incentives, write the rules.
Who are they?
Well, if anybody thinks it's Joe Biden and Kamala Harris or or Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff and and Elizabeth Warren, they they are just up in the night.
There is a an administrative state, there's a bureaucratic state, but there are trillions of dollars behind them that g actually move the meter in terms of like we talk a lot about ESG and DEI and all of these subversive things that they're trying to do to change the American culture, change the way uh things are done in this country.
Like we expose, for instance, uh Susan Rice and how she was charged with changing the way we do elections.
We get into depths of uh executive order 14019 that Joe Biden put out uh you know, March of his first year in office, and how there's an ongoing lawsuit to try to expose how he's trying to change and manipulate elections.
We sh we we tear the lid off the literally hundreds of billions of dollars in slush funds that Joe Biden and the Democratic machine have at their disposal so that no matter what happens in an election, Sean, you know, we elect new people and we get all excited and then we wonder why didn't anything change?
It's because the Democrats have already figured out how to fund and put their people in place so that no matter who's in power, they're going to win the next election because their policies will continue to be implemented.
That's what's scary about that's why when you read this book, you get scared.
But there's also solutions on how to tackle it.
But I feel like Republicans are explain explain who these people are so people know.
So Brian Deese, for instance, he replaced Larry Cudlow in the economic council.
Larry Cudlow was there in the Trump administration to make the economy better, and it was working.
Then Joe Biden comes in.
Who does he take?
He takes somebody who worked for Joe Biden and who is with BlackRock.
He's a climate activist.
He's the one that's actually in behind the scenes pulling pulling the strings.
Susan Rice, you know, she went from national security advisor to domestic policy advisor, never heard a peep from her.
She just left office in in May of uh in May 26th.
But she was the one that was working on getting all the departments and agencies and leveraging them so that the 2024 election is as baked as they could possibly make it before we even get to election day.
These are but just two the teachers' unions, you know, Randy Weingarten at the um she has at her disposal as the head of the teachers union, three hundred million dollars.
We get into how she, with some of her crony friends from Hunter Biden, go out and spend three million dollars, not to better teachers in our schools, but to give them money to China so that they could get these this uh personal protective equipment that ended up being bogus.
It was actually counterfeit.
But again, all ties back through Hunter Biden, coincidentally.
Nobody's ever heard these stories.
That's what this book does, the Puppeteers.
Back with us, my fellow Fox News colleague, also author of the book out today.
It's called The Puppeteers, the people who control the people who control America.
Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores across the country.
Everybody that I know looks at the double standard in terms of justice, the double standard and the way elections are run, et cetera, et cetera.
And they just say, well, why don't Republicans fix their system?
Why don't they get better at doing what the Democrats are doing?
How is it that all these these deep state state saboteurs, if you will, people that flaunt the law, how come they keep getting away with it?
How come they never get there never any consequences?
But if you're a Republican, you know, you get arrested for spitting on the sidewalk.
They they control the levers of government.
We show the numbers where in many departments and agencies, 95% of the government employees to make a political donation go to Democrats.
Some agencies, that's a hundred percent.
Do you think they're going to start enforcing the laws on the Securities and Exchange Commission, for instance, on on re on Democrats or Republicans?
Do you think they look at it through a partisan lens?
I mean, we we actually go through and show the flow of money.
The inflation reduction act, Sean, three hundred and seventy plus billion dollars given to John Podesta.
Who's John Podesta?
John Podesta was the part of the Clinton machine.
He was the chief of staff.
He ran Hillary Clinton's campaign.
He has three hundred and seventy billion dollars at his disposal to hand out to whom he wants.
In addition to three you mean he has three hundred and seventy billion with a B?
How do you know this?
The B, because it was in the inflation reduction act.
They created a climate slush fund that was part of that act.
It's a massive, massive amount of money.
That is bigger.
You can take a whole host of states.
You don't even come close to that money.
And I'm telling you, when you look at the state treasurers, for instance, uh the chief financial officers for these states.
Democrat control over one trillion dollars in assets.
And what do they do?
Then they go to your local company.
BlackRock, for instance, of the SP 500.
97.5% of the SP 500 companies are owned by at least BlackRock owns at least five percent of them.
And this is how they manipulate boards and Exxon and all these people.
And suddenly you wake up and say, Why is my company doing this?
Why are they doing all this climate change?
Why are they doing all this agenda?
It's because they're using your the people listening to the show, your retirement funds are being used by them to manipulate these companies to do things that you would never do.
It doesn't maximize your return on your investment or your retirement, but it does move the democratic machine forward, and then they leverage them to go win an election.
Unbelievable.
The book, by the way, is called The Puppeteers, the people that control the people who control America.
It's on Amazon.com, it's up on Hannity.com now in bookstores all across the country.
Uh Jason Chaffetz, uh wow, it's an eye-opening book.
Uh you now work in I know with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers and the great people over at the Government Accountability Institute, which I think is great.
Um, and the research is just unbelievable, and we've only touched the surface here.
Uh, we appreciate you being with us.
Hope people get a copy.
The puppeteers, the people who control the people who control America.
Anyway, uh, thank you, sir.
We appreciate your time.
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Uh all right, let's uh let me play.
You know, Tim Scott, as uh I mentioned it earlier today.
Let me mention it again.
He's on the view today.
And remember what let's let's go back in time because the view when he decided to get into this presidential race, uh, they had a lot to say about Tim Scott.
And this is what they said.
Well, isn't he professor positive?
Unlike Trump, everything's bad.
This doomsday, he's more in the Reagan-esque morning in America, things are fabulous.
Uh-huh.
And he's also hedging his bets.
He doesn't really go out and say he's not pro-choice exactly.
Although he did say when he said that he would vote for anything they put on the table, the Republicans.
So he is not pro-choice.
And he's one of these guys who, you know, he's like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes in pulling yourself by your bootstraps rather than to me, understanding the systemic racism that African Americans face in this country, and other minorities.
He doesn't get it.
Neither does uh Clarence.
Right.
And that's why they're Republicans.
Yeah.
So Tim Scott wanted To go on the view today, and and he's answering questions like for example, Sonny Houston's question about systemic racism.
You know, there were a ton of interruptions, but he handled it really well.
Uh, he talks about all the progress this country has made in terms of African Americans, Hispanic Americans.
Uh at one moment was very interesting.
This is the second time now this has happened in recent weeks.
Uh the last time, I think it was Governor Sanunu.
I'm not sure, but Republicans don't want to go on that show because they get booed all the time.
What's the point?
Gee, let me go on the view and see if I can get shouted over by Joyless Behar and booed by the audience.
Uh but whoopy Goldberg stepped in and said, No, we're gonna listen to Tim Scott.
Listen.
What is your definition of systemic racism?
Let me ask answer the uh question that you've answered as it exit in your mind.
Let me uh answer the question this way.
One of the things I I think about, and one of the reasons why I'm on the show is because of the comments that were made, frankly, on this show, that the only way for a young African American kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the rule.
That is a dangerous, offensive, disgusting message to send to our young people today that the only way to succeed is by being the exception.
I will tell you that if my life is the exception, uh I can't imagine.
I think it is.
But it's not actually.
Here's here's it's been 114 years.
Yeah, so so the fact of the matter is we've had an African American president, African American uh vice president, we've had two African Americans to be secretaries of the state uh in my home city.
Uh the police chief is an African American who's now running for mayor, the head of the highway patrol for South Carolina's African American in 19 in 1975, um there was about 15% employment in the African American community for the first time in the history of the country, it's under five percent.
Forty percent homelessness.
50% of the folks in our community get 13% of the population.
You have the chance to ask a question.
I've watched you on the show that you like people to be deferential and respectful, That is true.
So here's what I'm gonna suggest.
I'm gonna suggest the fact of the matter is that progress in America is palpable.
It could be measured in generations.
Well, I think Disney and Ronnie have been in a combat zone for a number of months over what I thought was the right issue as it relates to our young kids and what they're being indoctrinated with.
I thought he started off on the wrong on the right foot on that issue.
No, no, no, no, not he.
I'm sorry, sir.
Do not boo.
This is the view.
We accept we don't have to believe everything people say, but you cannot boo people here, please.
You cannot do it.
Please continue.
I mean, a gr of great appearance.
I saw the whole thing, uh, because I knew it was coming and I was alerted to it, but I mean it was he's uh he's on TV tonight.
We'll we'll get his reaction to all of this.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones.
Gary in Alabama, what's up, Gary?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Sean, Sean, doing great.
Uh long time listener from your early days in uh Atlanta, 1990s, early nineties.
Um hey, look, I'm uh not what's the difference between Hannity and the early nineties and Hannity now?
No difference.
You're still very conservative, and I appreciate that.
I really you know what?
That's the best compliment you can give me.
I don't change, you know, based on the the tides.
Once you find principles that work, and once you have once you know they work, you have confidence in espousing them.
You know, is all these people constantly changing, oh, I'm gonna be a liberal today.
I think uh I'll do better if I turn libertarian tomorrow.
I'm gonna you know what?
I I don't know, to me that's not being real.
If you really believe in something, it's those those beliefs stick with you unless you're proven false.
And conservatism always works.
But I digress.
Go ahead.
Uh yes, and then just let you know, I'm not an independent or moderate, I'm very strong conservative, but you may have remembered 11th commandment about Ronald Reagan that said, Thou shall not speak ill of another Republican.
And in your town hall meeting, you asked a very good question of uh President Trump, and you know, I'm not against him.
I just wanted him to answer the question a little more uh elaborate, uh just be a little more elaborated and in his and his answer more specific to it because I think he took it as more against the uh Democrats than his fellow Republicans, because I feel like,
you know, he was he's still doing the the name calling, still kind of not toning down that rhetoric, which I think that's where a lot of voters still are just wish he'd be more presidential, more like Ronald Reagan in a sense that's uh why I mean you're if you're ahead in the polls, why do you have to worry about that?
And I I just didn't feel like he got to let me shed some light on it, because I have to combine the last two interviews to give you the full answer.
Maybe you didn't see my sit down that I had with him at Mar-a Lago.
That was the previous interview.
In that interview, I asked a very simple question.
I said, I thought you and Ron DeSantis were friends.
What happened?
That was the entire question.
And he gave a pretty lengthy answer about how he felt that if it weren't for his endorsement support, rallies, etc.
And I think there's some truth to it.
I think that, you know, if if Trump didn't really go to bat for Ron and Rick Scott, you know, at the end of that race in 2018, I'm not I'm not sure either one of them would have crossed the finish line.
I mean, you know, Rick Scott won by like 10,000 votes.
Ron DeSantis, I think, won by a little over 30,000 votes.
And I'm not saying that Trump is fully responsible, but he played a big part in helping both of them.
And so he kind of views it as disloyalty.
Now, in Ron's defense, I think you could say, okay, Trump supported the right guy, and that he did a great job.
Why wouldn't you celebrate that you fixed that you picked the right guy and you were ahead of the curve?
Um and you know, I I think the thinking is, oh, okay, I'm glad I could help you become governor so you can now run against me.
I should have gone again with the other guy who had no intentions to run against me.
So that's where that's where this stems from, at least on Trump's side.
Does that make sense?
Yes, sir.
I think what happens, uh, if you I've read an article about it, it's more of a keeping a moniker on like Pocahontas or some other Democratic candidate, but the Republicans I wish you'd just stay off of, but it's because of sound bites in the media.
You're trying to get a quick soundbite, and then that sticks with the voters.
But I really wish he'd be more like Ronald Reagan and Style Shall not speak ill than other Republican.
That way I think he's more presidential and he and he'll get more voters for and toning down that rhetoric.
I was asking, you know, w you know, how does this help you?
It might help him with it does help him with his base.
I mean, if you if you look at some of his base, you know, just just I don't spend any time online, but I get uh enough feedback from from Sweet Baby James and Linda and and others to know that you know hardcore MAGA people are angry at Ron the way the president is.
And and I get it, but at the end of the day, you know, l look, as I've said so many times, it's eventually if a primary gets close, uh, let me tell you what's gonna happen.
It's gonna be political warfare.
It's gonna be a blood sport.
That's why they call it a blood sport.
And it's gonna get ugly, it always does.
But we're kind of starting out in an area I wish we weren't starting there and we were more united, focused on, you know, who who's ruining the country here.
It's the Democratic Party.
It's Joe Biden.
It's Joe Biden that doesn't know what day of the week it is.
So um I I I don't disagree with you.
I do I wish they got along at this point?
Sure, I absolutely do.
If it gets close down the road and they're they're fighting for their survival and for the nomination, I mean, you know, at that point I understand the gloves come off.
That's just the nature of politics.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
I think you're right.
And I think the coin phrase was actually came from uh guy who was he was the t state chairman of uh of California when uh Governor Reagan was well President Reagan was running for governor.
It was Gay Lord Parkinson in nineteen in the nineteen sixties, and he did it for that purpose for unity.
He didn't want the fellow Republicans buying each other when they were trying to fight the Democrats.
Yeah, look, I mean, uh you mean the 11th Commandment.
Look, I ideally that's the situation.
The reality is what the reality is, and we can't change that part.
Anyway, I do appreciate you call Gary, Alabama.
What part of Alabama are you in?
All right.
Uh I'm in uh Birmingham.
Okay.
Nice area.
Love it down there.
I've been to the Birmingham Zoo many times.
Uh let's see, Gina is in Mississippi.
Hey, Gina, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, uh, Sean.
What a pleasure to get to talk speak with you.
The pleasure is all mine, and I'm glad you're here.
Well, um, I totally agree with everything the last caller said, and that is also my concern.
Um I love Donald J. Trump.
I have been an avid supporter of his since day one.
Uh I got into politics about 20 years ago when I started listening to the magnificent Rush Limbaugh.
And uh he turned me on to politics, and I am I watch it very closely.
And uh I am very upset because I am feeling defeated.
And I know you don't want me to hear me say that, but uh, you know, I watch I start watching uh every the political shows in the morning, I watch a show called Washington Journal, where everybody calls in the show itself is unfair because they take more Democratic calls than they do Republicans.
They're by their bias that they claim to be neutral, but they're not.
And so many lies uh are spread about all the Republicans and the MAGA people on that show.
It's unbelievable.
But uh anyway, I am very concerned with Donald Trump.
Uh I do believe he is going off the train track when he bashes Ron DeSantis with, you know, a joke calling his just even in his name calling him De Sanctus.
Uh that's wrong, and he is turning off a lot of his supporters by doing that.
Now I do believe with Alma Hart, he loves America, and he is the one who is can it around.
But I also believe what uh Bruce Limbaugh said that the only person that can bring Donald Trump down is Donald Trump himself.
So I uh I don't know what to do because I think what I think is that they should hook up.
And I think DeSantis should run as his VP.
And you know, and that's the I am very frustrated with all the Republicans, uh the Linos, you know, it it doesn't make sense.
This is sort of like a war, a political war.
And if our side, if the Republicans do not stick together, then we're gonna lose again.
I mean, we have so many so many things against us, like the media.
The media is obviously on the Democrat side.
And I mean, most of the media is owned by these big corporations who lean uh left.
So we don't have much of a chance if we don't stick together.
Well, I I just gave the same answer to the to the last caller, so I'm not gonna repeat myself.
Um I am getting a lot of calls on this very topic.
I get it.
I understand it.
Um, you know, look, there's gonna be a process.
Let's see how the the process, you know, works itself out.
Well, I mean, what why do you think I mean Mike Pence filed his papers today, so he's in, and it looks like Chris Christie's getting in this week.
All right, big deal.
Chris Christie's, from all I can see, is only running to bludgeon Trump.
That's the only reason he's showing that he really wants to get in this race.
And and he's entitled to do that.
He's entitled to have his point of view, but I don't think he's going anywhere, and I don't even think he's trying to go anywhere.
That to me is a waste of time.
I mean, look at somebody like Ramaswamy.
Do I think he's gonna win the nomination?
No, but I've been willing to give him air time.
He's pretty smart.
Um, I'm pretty impressed with him.
Nice guy, and you know what?
I like his fighting spirit.
I like Tim Scott's fighting spirit.
Nikki Haley, you know what?
She deserves to be in this race if she wants to be in it.
And and the same with anyone else that feels like jumping in.
Um, and you know, I I kind of agree with Rush too.
It's the only one that I see that can beat Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
Now, I I know the uh the deep state, I mean, there's been rumors running rampant all week about some point this week Donald Trump is gonna be indicted by the special counsel.
Do I know if any of that's true?
I don't.
We have reports of not one but two meetings with the Department of Justice and Trump lawyers, and I I I think he's got enough enemies in terms of the media mob that hate him and the deep state bureaucrats and the Democratic Party that you know want to destroy this man at any cost.
And even compromising our entire justice system to go after one person.
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Uh rumors running rampant that the potential indictment of Donald Trump in the special counsel case as it relates to documents and the Mar-a-Lago raid, Ted Cruz, Newt Gingrich tonight, uh, Congressman James Comer, Congressman Jim Jordan, Tim Scott, who took on the ladies of the view, uh, Tommy Larren, Charlie Arnold, say you D VR, Hannity, 9Eastern on Fox, of the latest on this breaking story of much more news you'll never get for the media mob.
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