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The Puppeteers - June 5th, Hour 3
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Sean, if you want to join us, I noticed that, you know, when you're not held accountable for lying to a FISA court with unverifiable debunked information, not once in the case of James Comey, three times.
The government did it four times.
You know, Comey even telling, I think it was Lindsey Graham in a hearing, oh, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have spied on Carter Page and have a backdoor into all things President Trump and the Trump presidency and the Trump campaign.
Interesting note.
But apparently now on the 2024 election, you can add the 2020 election, the 2016 election, and the FBI involvement.
They pre-bunked the Hunter Biden laptop.
Clearly, when they had a copy themselves, they could have verified its authenticity in no time.
Comey says on the 24 elections, it has to be Joe.
Of course it has to be Joe.
Joe's protecting the likes of Comey.
And they all have for the longest time.
You were Republican most of your life, but voted for, and you may still consider yourself one, but voted for Biden in 2020.
Do you intend to vote for him again, or is there anyone on the Republican side you might consider if it's not Trump?
It has to be Joe Biden.
And I'm glad he's willing to serve.
It has to be somebody committed to the rule of law, committed to the values of this country.
And I'm not talking about policy.
People can disagree about policy.
There are things above those disagreements that all of us should think about the same way.
The president must be someone who abides the law and our Constitution.
And there's no one else but Joe Biden.
All right.
Now, speaking of which, James Comer, who heads the House Government Reform Oversight Committee that has been investigating the Biden family syndicate, he spoke out earlier today because the FBI has not been particularly helpful, especially when it comes to this 1023 form that he has been requesting that he believes has a credible allegation that Joe Biden as vice president accepted money in exchange for specific actions.
And the FBI has been requested again and again and again, and they refused to cooperate.
So Comer says today, okay, that would be obstruction, and we're going to hold you in contempt, meaning Director Ray.
Listen.
FBI officials confirmed that the unclassified FBI-generated record has not been disproven and is currently being used in an ongoing investigation.
The confidential human source who provided information about then Vice President Biden being involved in a criminal bribery scheme is a trusted, highly credible informant who has been used by the FBI for over 10 years and has been paid over six figures.
These are facts and no about of spin and frankly lies from the White House or Congressional Democrats can change this information.
At the briefing, the FBI again refused to hand over the unclassified record to the custody of the House Oversight Committee.
And we will now initiate contempt of Congress hearings this Thursday.
All right.
So anyway, joining us now, he was once the chairman of this important committee himself.
Now a Fox News colleague, Jason Chaffetz, is with us, best-selling author, by the way.
His brand new book is out today, The Puppeteers, The People Who Control, the People Who Control America.
Not exactly a book title that you want to hear about in this great country.
But anyway, Congressman, welcome back.
How are you, sir?
Oh, thanks for having me, Sean.
I bet you're loving your time out of office now being called a pundit.
Well, I am a little jealous of James Comer right now because he is definitely over the target.
And they have the FBI backpedaling here, and it's not good.
It's not good for the country, and they have some serious questions to answer.
All right.
Well, that's happening simultaneously.
We're hearing not one, but two separate meetings with Donald Trump's lawyers and the DOJ.
Rumors are running rampant about a possible indictment as to the Mar-a-Lago documents case.
You know, can you explain that to me, especially in light of Joe Biden and all the varying places that he had documents?
Yeah, no, it's such a double standard.
You talk about it every day, Sean.
You and I have been talking about this for years.
The unequal application of justice just has to stop.
We have to have a different president.
I totally disagree with James.
The number one argument for electing Donald Trump or somebody on the Republican side of the aisle for president is that James Comey cannot afford to allow a Republican in there to have a Republican attorney general.
He's scared to death of that.
You know, I mean, the thing is, is that if you go back and you were a part of our coverage, a lot of our coverage when it came to the 2016 election and lying to FISA courts and, you know, who got held accountable in those instances?
Can you name anybody?
Because really, nobody got held accountable.
No, we had over 1,000 pages of documentation from the Inspector General.
You have the Durham report.
You have the Mueller report, which really also adds to that as well.
Nobody held accountable.
Even the person with forged documents as an FBI attorney didn't even lose his law license, for goodness sake.
So the lawlessness continues, and nobody is held accountable.
Nobody is fired.
Nobody loses their security clearance.
The 51 people that came up with this bogus letter to try to debunk the Hunter Biden laptop, why do they still have security clearances?
That is so just offensive.
And I'm tired of talking about it.
I want to actually have some changes done, but you're going to have to change the Senate.
You're going to have to change the White House.
You're going to have to defund these people.
You're going to have to reorganize the thing top to bottom.
And you're going to have to have somebody with some serious gravitas to get in there and actually do it.
Well, let me ask you, because you know Michael Horowitz, let me ask you about Michael Horowitz.
I mean, you know, he came out with a stinging report and it had referrals in the report, but yet nothing happens.
I mean, in your book, you go into great specificity and detail about monies and slush funds and, you know, partisan priorities, how they're funded.
I mean, and I want to get into that in a second here, but it seems like the people that are most protected are the people with the highest levels of power, and there's no accountability for these people.
Yeah, I write about in the Puppeteers, this new book that literally is coming out today, Follow the Money, Follow the People.
But in addition to that, I got to tell you, part of that accountability is the courts.
And you and I have talked about this before, Sean.
When can you ever go to a lie to the court?
Where's John Roberts on this?
I'm sorry, but the Chief Justice of the United States of America is in charge of the FISA court.
How can they get lied to with a forged document and there are exactly zero consequences?
I've never understood that.
Michael Horowitz is the Inspector General has made dozens of criminal referrals.
One of the things people need to know about, the Inspector General is not empowered to prosecute people.
The Inspector General is not empowered to interview or investigate any attorneys within the Department of Justice.
That has to change.
If he bumps into an attorney, he has to back off.
And that is so wrong.
It's not true in any other department agency except the Department of Justice.
So I'm reading your book, The Puppeteers, The People That Control The People Who Control America, and I'm thinking, you know, the depth of the lack of knowledge of the American people when it comes to, you know, the people behind the scenes that actually pull the power strings, if you will.
You expose a lot of this.
And, you know, for example, who are these people pulling the strings, setting the agendas with all the power, creating the incentives, write the rules?
Who are they?
Well, if anybody thinks it's Joe Biden and Kamala Harris or Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff and Elizabeth Warren, they are just up in the night.
There is an administrative state, there's a bureaucratic state, but there are trillions of dollars behind them that actually move the meter in terms of like, we talk a lot about ESG and DEI and all of these subversive things that they're trying to do to change the American culture, change the way things are done in this country.
We expose, for instance, Susan Rice and how she was charged with changing the way we do elections.
We get into depths of Executive Order 14019 that Joe Biden put out March of his first year in office and how there's an ongoing lawsuit to try to expose how he's trying to change and manipulate elections.
We tear the lid off the literally hundreds of billions of dollars in slush funds that Joe Biden and the Democratic machine have at their disposal so that no matter what happens in an election, Sean, you know, we elect new people and we get all excited and then we wonder why didn't anything change.
It's because the Democrats have already figured out how to fund and put their people in place so that no matter who's in power, they're going to win the next election because their policies will continue to be implemented.
That's what's scary about.
That's why when you read this book, you get scared, but there's also solutions on how to tackle it.
But I feel like Republicans are changing.
Well, explain who these people are so people know.
So Brian Dees, for instance, he replaced Larry Kudlow in the Economic Council.
Larry Kudlow was there in the Trump administration to make the economy better, and it was working.
Then Joe Biden comes in.
Who does he take?
He takes somebody who worked for Joe Biden and who is with BlackRock.
He's a climate activist.
He's the one that's actually behind the scenes, pulling the strings.
Susan Rice, you know, she went from national security advisor to domestic policy advisor.
Never heard a peep from her.
She just left office in May of May 26th.
But she was the one that was working on getting all the departments and agencies and leveraging them so that the 2024 election is as baked as they could possibly make it before we even get to Election Day.
These are but just two, the teachers' unions.
You know, Randy Weingarten at the, she has at her disposal as the head of the teachers union $300 million.
We get into how she, with some of her crony friends from Hunter Biden, go out and spend $3 million, not to better teachers in our schools, but to give them money to China so that they could get this personal protective equipment that ended up being bogus.
It was actually counterfeit.
But again, all ties back through Hunter Biden, coincidentally.
Nobody's ever heard these stories.
That's what this book does, The Puppeteers.
Jason Chapitz is back with us, my fellow Fox News colleague, also author of the book out today.
It's called The Puppeteers, The People Who Control The People Who Control America.
Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores across the country.
Everybody that I know looks at the double standard in terms of justice, the double standard and the way elections are run, et cetera, et cetera.
And they just say, well, why don't Republicans fix their system?
Why don't they get better at doing what the Democrats are doing?
How is it that all these deep state saboteurs, if you will, people that flaunt the law, how come they keep getting away with it?
How come they never get there?
Never any consequences.
But if you're a Republican, you know, you get arrested for spitting on the sidewalk.
They control the levers of government.
We show the numbers where in many departments and agencies, 95% of the government employees that make a political donation go to Democrats.
Some agencies, that's 100%.
Do you think they're going to start enforcing the laws on the Securities and Exchange Commission, for instance, on Democrats or Republicans?
Do you think they look at it through a partisan lens?
I mean, we actually go through and show the flow of money.
The Inflation Reduction Act, Sean, $370 plus billion dollars given to John Podesta.
Who's John Podesta?
John Podesta was part of the Clinton machine.
He was the chief of staff.
He ran Hillary Clinton's campaign.
He has $370 billion at his disposal to hand out to whom he wants.
In addition to that.
He has $370 billion with a B?
How do you know this?
The B, because it was in the Inflation Reduction Act.
They created a climate slush fund that was part of that act.
It's a massive, massive amount of money.
That is bigger.
You could take a whole host of states.
You don't even come close to that money.
And I'm telling you, when you look at the state treasurers, for instance, the chief financial officers for these states, Democrat control over $1 trillion in assets.
And what do they do?
Then they go to your local company.
BlackRock, for instance, of the S ⁇ P 500.
97.5% of the S ⁇ P 500 companies are owned by at least BlackRock owns at least 5% of them.
And this is how they manipulate boards and Exxon and all these people.
And suddenly you wake up and say, why is my company doing this?
Why are they doing all this climate change?
Why are they doing all this agenda?
It's because they're using your, the people listening to the show, your retirement funds are being used by them to manipulate these companies to do things that you would never do.
It doesn't maximize your return on your investment or your retirement, but it does move the Democratic machine forward.
And then they leverage them to go win an election.
Unbelievable.
The book, by the way, is called The Puppeteers, the People That Control, the People Who Control America.
It's on Amazon.com.
It's up on Hannity.com now in bookstores all across the country.
Jason Schaffetz, wow, it's an eye-opening book.
You now work in it, I know, with Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers and the great people over at the Government Accountability Institute, which I think is great.
And the research is just unbelievable, and we've only touched the surface here.
We appreciate you being with us.
Hope people get a copy of The Puppeteers, the people who control the people who control America.
Anyway, thank you, sir.
Appreciate your time.
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All right, let me play, you know, Tim Scott, as I mentioned it earlier today.
Let me mention it again.
He's on the View today.
And remember what, let's go back in time because the View, when he decided to get into this presidential race, they had a lot to say about Tim Scott.
And this is what they said.
Well, isn't he professor positive?
Unlike Trump, everything's bad.
This doomsday, he's more in the Reagan-esque morning in America.
Things are fabulous.
And he's also hedging his bets.
He doesn't really go out and say he's not pro-choice exactly.
Although he did say, when he says that he would vote for anything they put on the table, the Republicans.
So he is not pro-choice.
And he's one of these guys who, you know, he's like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes in pulling yourself by your bootstraps, rather than, to me, understanding the systemic racism that African Americans face in this country and other minorities.
He doesn't get it.
Neither does Clarence.
Right.
And that's why they're Republicans.
Yeah.
So Tim Scott wanted to go on the View today, and he's answering questions like, for example, Sonny Houston's question about systemic racism.
You know, there were a ton of interruptions, but he handled it really well.
He talks about all the progress this country has made in terms of African Americans, Hispanic Americans.
At one moment, it was very interesting.
This is the second time now this has happened in recent weeks.
The last time, I think it was Governor Sununu.
I'm not sure.
But Republicans don't want to go on that show because they get booed all the time.
What's the point?
Gee, let me go on the View and see if I can get shouted over by Joyless Behar and booed by the audience.
But Whoopi Goldberg stepped in and said, no, we're going to listen to Tim Scott.
Listen.
What is your definition of systemic racism?
Let me answer the question that you've answered.
Or does it even exist in your mind?
Let me answer the question this way.
One of the things I think about, and one of the reasons why I'm on the show is because of the comments that were made, frankly, on this show, that the only way for a young African-American kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the role.
That is a dangerous, offensive, disgusting message to send to our young people today that the only way to succeed is by being the exception.
I will tell you that if my life is the exception, I can't imagine.
I think it is.
But it's not, actually.
Here's the thing 114 years.
Yeah, so the fact of the matter is we've had an African-American president, African-American vice president.
We've had two African Americans to be secretaries of the state.
In my home city, the police chief is an African-American who's now running for mayor.
The head of the Highway Patrol for South Koreans, the African American.
In 1975, there was about 15% employment in the African-American community for the first time in the history of the country.
It's under 5%.
40% homelessness.
And 50% of the programs.
50% of the folks in our community.
13% of the people who are in the community.
I've watched you on the show that you like people to be deferential and respectful, so I'm going to do the same thing.
So here's what I'm going to suggest: I'm going to suggest the fact of the matter is that progress in America is palpable.
It could be measured in generations.
No, but do you think Disney's radical left?
I think Disney and Ronnie have been in a combat zone for a number of months over what I thought was the right issue as it relates to our young kids and what they're being indoctrinated with.
I thought he started off on the right foot on that issue.
No, no, no, no, not here.
I'm sorry, sir.
Do not boo.
This is the view.
We accept we don't have to believe everything people say, but you cannot boo people here, please.
You cannot do it.
Please continue.
I need a great appearance.
I saw the whole thing because I knew it was coming and I was alerted to it.
But I mean, he's on TV tonight.
We'll get his reaction to all of this.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Gary in Alabama.
What's up, Gary?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Sean, Sean, doing great.
Long-time listener from your early days in Atlanta, 1990s, early 90s.
Hey, look, I'm the difference between Hannity in the early 90s and Hannity now.
No difference.
You're still very conservative, and I appreciate that.
You know what?
That's the best compliment you can give me.
I don't change based on the tides.
Once you find principles that work, and once you know they work, you have confidence in espousing them.
There's all these people constantly changing.
Oh, I'm going to be a liberal today.
I think I'll do better if I turn libertarian tomorrow.
You know what?
I don't know.
To me, that's not being real.
If you really believe in something, those beliefs stick with you unless you're proven false.
And conservatism always works.
But I digress.
Go ahead.
Yes.
And just let you know, I'm not an independent or moderate.
I'm very strong conservative.
But you may have remembered the 11th commandment about Ronald Reagan that said, thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.
And in your town hall meeting, you asked a very good question of President Trump.
And, you know, I'm not against him.
I just wanted him to answer the question a little more elaborate, just be a little more elaborated in his answer more specific to it, because I think he took it as more against the Democrats than his fellow Republicans.
Because I feel like, you know, he's still doing the name-calling, still kind of not toning down that rhetoric, which I think that's where a lot of voters still are just wish he'd be more presidential, more like Ronald Reagan in the sense that, I mean, if you're ahead in the polls, why do you have to worry about that?
And I just didn't feel like he got to.
Well, let me shed some light on it because I have to combine the last two interviews to give you the full answer.
Maybe you didn't see my sit-down that I had with him at Mar-a-Lago.
That was the previous interview.
In that interview, I asked a very simple question.
I said, I thought you and Ron DeSantis were friends.
What happened?
That was the entire question.
And he gave a pretty lengthy answer about how he felt that if it weren't for his endorsement, support, rallies, et cetera.
And I think there's some truth to it.
I think that, you know, if Trump didn't really go to bat for Ron and Rick Scott, you know, at the end of that race in 2018, I'm not sure either one of them would have crossed the finish line.
I mean, you know, Rick Scott won by like 10,000 votes.
Ron DeSantis, I think, won by a little over 30,000 votes.
And I'm not saying that Trump is fully responsible, but he played a big part in helping both of them.
And so he kind of views it as disloyalty.
Now, in Ron's defense, I think you could say, okay, Trump supported the right guy and that he did a great job.
Why wouldn't you celebrate that you picked the right guy and you were ahead of the curve?
And, you know, I think the thinking is, oh, okay, I'm glad I could help you become governor so you can now run against me.
I should have gone with the other guy who had no intentions to run against me.
So that's where this stems from, at least on Trump's side.
Does that make sense?
Yes, sir.
I think what happens, though, if you I've read an article about it, it's more of a keeping a moniker on like Pocahontas or some other Democratic candidate, but the Republicans, I wish he'd just stay off of, but it's because of soundbites in the media.
You're trying to get a quick soundbite, and then that sticks with the voters.
But I really wish he'd be more like Ronald Reagan and thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.
That way, I think he's more presidential and he'll get more voters for toning down that rhetoric.
I was asking, you know, how does this help you?
It might help him with, it does help him with his base.
I mean, if you look at some of his base, you know, just I don't spend any time online, but I get enough feedback from Sweet Baby James and Linda and others to know that, you know, hardcore MAGA people are angry at Ron the way the president is.
And I get it, but at the end of the day, you know, look, as I've said so many times, it's eventually, if a primary gets close, let me tell you what's going to happen.
It's going to be political warfare.
It's going to be a blood sport.
That's why they call it a blood sport.
And it's going to get ugly.
It always does.
But we're kind of starting out in an area I wish we weren't starting there and we were more united, focused on, you know, who's ruining the country here.
It's the Democratic Party.
It's Joe Biden.
It's Joe Biden that doesn't know what day of the week it is.
So I don't disagree with you.
Do I wish they got along at this point?
Sure, I absolutely do.
If it gets close down the road and they're fighting for their survival and for the nomination, I mean, you know, at that point, I understand the gloves come off.
That's just the nature of politics.
That makes sense?
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
I think you're right.
And I think the coin phrase was actually came from a guy who was the state chairman of California when Governor Reagan was, well, President Reagan was running for governor.
It was Gaylord Farguson in the 1960s.
And he did it for that purpose, for unity.
He didn't want the fellow Republicans biting each other when they were trying to fight the Democrats.
Yeah, look, I mean, you mean the 11th Commandment?
Look, ideally, that's the situation.
The reality is what the reality is, and we can't change that part.
Anyway, I do appreciate you calling Gary, Alabama.
What part of Alabama are you in?
All right.
I'm in Birmingham.
Okay.
Nice area.
Love it down there.
I've been to the Birmingham Zoo many times.
Let's see.
Gina is in Mississippi.
Hey, Gina, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
What a pleasure to get to speak with you.
The pleasure is all mine, and I'm glad you're here.
Well, I totally agree with everything the last caller said, and that is also my concern.
I love Donald J. Trump.
I have been an avid supporter of his since day one.
I got into politics about 20 years ago when I started listening to the magnificent Rush Limbaugh, and he turned me on to politics.
And I watch it very closely.
And I am very upset because I am feeling defeated.
And I know you don't want to hear me say that, but I start watching every political shows in the morning.
I watch a show called Washington Journal, where everybody calls in.
The show itself is unfair because they take more Democratic calls than they do Republicans.
They're biased, but they claim to be neutral, but they're not.
And so many lies are spread about all the Republicans and the MAGA people on that show.
It's unbelievable.
But anyway, I am very concerned with Donald Trump.
I do believe he is going off the train track when he bashes Ron DeSantis with, you know, a joke calling his, just even in his name, calling him DeSanctus.
That's wrong, and he is turning off a lot of his supporters by doing that.
Now, I do believe with all my heart he loves America, and he is the one who can turn it around.
But I also believe what Bush Limbaugh said, that the only person that can bring Donald Trump down is Donald Trump himself.
So I don't know what to do because I think what I think is that they should hook up.
And I think DeSantis should run as his VP.
And, you know, and that's the, I am very frustrated with all the Republicans, the rhinos.
You know, it doesn't make sense.
This is sort of like a war, a political war.
And if our side, if the Republicans do not stick together, then we're going to lose again.
I mean, we have so many, so many things against us, like the media.
The media is obviously on the Democrat side.
And, I mean, most of the media is owned by these big corporations who lean left.
So we don't have much of a chance if we don't stick together.
Well, I just gave the same answer to the last caller, so I'm not going to repeat myself.
I am getting a lot of calls on this very topic.
I get it.
I understand it.
You know, look, there's going to be a process.
Let's see how the process, you know, works itself out.
I mean, why do you think, I mean, Mike Pence filed his papers today, so he's in, and it looks like Chris Christie's getting in this week.
All right, big deal.
Chris Christie's, from all I can see, is only running to bludgeon Trump.
That's the only reason he's showing that he really wants to get in this race.
And he's entitled to do that.
He's entitled to have his point of view, but I don't think he's going anywhere.
And I don't even think he's trying to go anywhere.
That to me is a waste of time.
I mean, look at somebody like Ramaswamy.
Do I think he's going to win the nomination?
No, but I've been willing to give him airtime.
He's pretty smart.
I'm pretty impressed with him.
Nice guy.
And, you know what?
I like his fighting spirit.
I like Tim Scott's fighting spirit.
Nikki Haley, you know what?
She deserves to be in this race if she wants to be in it.
And the same with anyone else that feels like jumping in.
And, you know, I kind of agree with Rush, too.
The only one that I see that can beat Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
Now, I know the deep state, I mean, there's been rumors running rampant all week about some point this week, Donald Trump is going to be indicted by the special counsel.
Do I know if any of that's true?
I don't.
We have reports of not one, but two meetings with the Department of Justice and Trump lawyers.
And I think he's got enough enemies in terms of the media mob that hate him and the deep state bureaucrats and the Democratic Party that want to destroy this man at any cost and even compromising our entire justice system to go after one person.
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All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Rumors running rampant that the potential indictment of Donald Trump in the special counsel case as it relates to documents and the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Ted Cruz, Newt Gingrich tonight, Congressman James Comer, Congressman Jim Jordan, Tim Scott, who took on the Ladies of the View.
Tommy Laron, Charlie Arnold, Seth DBR, Hannity, 9 Eastern on Fox.
Of the latest on this breaking story of much more news you'll never get for the media mob.
See it tonight.
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