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So from my conservative friends and from myself, you know, I don't like the fact that this deal that was cut with Schumer and Biden, originally it was a one-year deal that saved over 10 years $4.8 trillion.
It went back to spending levels for 2023.
It opened up some energy opportunities in the country.
And I thought it was responsible on a lot of different fronts.
It limited the baseline budgeting increases to only 1% a year for every program.
I like that aspect of it too.
And anyway, so it passes, but Kevin McCarthy did lose 71 members of his own caucus.
And here's him talking about all the positives that he believes are in this debt deal, which was very different from the deal that the Republicans had signed on to.
Here's what he said.
Because of the vote we took tonight, the largest rescissions in American history.
All the COVID money, the billions of dollars sitting out there that they said they would never bring back.
You know what?
To the taxpayer, to you hardworking Americans, we stood for you.
We brought that money back.
For those who are afraid that they're going to get audited because the president wants to have 87,000 new IRS agents, right now he has zero.
We took every single dollar they were going to hire somebody this year away.
And I promise you, I'll be back next year and next year and next year.
Because I believe government should be here to help you, not go after you.
We didn't just take the money from this year.
We took another 20 billion.
I think we should get some more border agents with that 20 billion.
I think that's where America would want to see us go.
All right.
Anyway, I mean, a little fact check to all this.
Yes, it is true.
It's the $2.1 trillion in savings would be the largest savings ever.
But we're dealing with the largest debt we've ever had, which is $31 trillion.
And it's not the $4.8 trillion that the original House bill had in savings over that same period of time.
He talks about work requirements.
They're minimal.
When you get to the nitty-gritty and the language in the bill, it is not what it appears to be.
You know, if he talks about all the COVID money being reallocated, no, it was only a small percentage of the COVID money that would be clawed back.
When he talks about the 80 billion dollars for the IRS, okay, so every dollar this year, but not next year.
Why not?
Why did they go from a one-year deal to a two-year deal?
So I know that's why 71 Republicans voted against it.
Here to give us their take on all of this.
We welcome back to the program Congresswoman Claudia Tenney of New York and Congressman an emergency room doctor, by the way, Richard McCormick of Georgia, who's also a Marine Corps helicopter pilot and commander in the Navy.
Sir, thank you for your service.
We appreciate you both being here.
Thanks, Sean.
It's great to be on with you.
Congresswoman, let me start with you.
Were you happy with this bill?
Yes, I was.
And I'll tell you why.
First of all, it's a great honor to be on with Dr. McCormick, who also served in the Marines, just like my son.
So special person, when they tell you there aren't good people in Congress, there are wonderful people that serve in our country.
So look, the reason this bill is getting misunderstood is because this is a framework.
This is not a spending bill.
It is a negotiation on a debt ceiling for bills that have already been appropriated that we voted against.
This is the scrimmage.
The Super Bowl is getting the appropriations and getting the Republicans to stick together to cut the spending.
So I hear some of the conservatives say, oh, well, this allows $4 trillion in spending.
Well, President Trump negotiated a $6.5 trillion debt ceiling, clean debt ceiling bill that spent that, that actually allocated that.
But in fairness to President Trump, wasn't that during COVID?
Yeah, still, it's still a huge...
Well, that was a pretty unusual time.
Right.
But here's the difference, Sean.
We aren't saying, you don't have to spend the $4 trillion.
It's up to the Republicans with a very slim majority.
By the time we get to the Super Bowl, which is the appropriations process, in September, when that is finalized, if we don't do this within 12 regular order appropriations bills, hasn't been done since my freshman year in 2017.
Yes, when President Trump was in office, we controlled the Senate, and we also controlled the House with a significant majority.
Here's the problem.
If we don't stick together with a four-seat majority by then, hopefully we still have a four-seat majority, that's where it counts.
This is where we actually appropriate.
This is where we actually cut.
This bill is a framework.
It is not a spending bill.
It's going to the Democrats with a pair of twos and saying, hey, with your royal flush, give us some concessions.
We got them.
You know why?
Because of people like you, because of a lot of Republicans messaging, and because the American people are hurting.
Spending has caused inflation.
The energy costs have added to inflation.
People are hurting.
That's why the Democrats had to come to the table.
Well, I think let me give you what I'm hearing from your fellow congressmen that are angry about this bill.
Number one, they were kept out of the loop.
This surprised them.
This is a very different agreement than the bill that the House Republicans had passed, the limit, what, save, grow bill.
And the amount of money is a lot less in terms of savings.
There are a lot of loopholes for work requirements.
The COVID clawback was not anywhere near what people were claiming it would be.
And the money for the IRS goes forward, except for, you know, what, $1.8 billion?
Yeah, so we could have gotten nothing.
And the Democrats and some of the moderates would have gone to the Democrats.
They already did.
What do you mean got nothing?
You guys passed the debt ceiling bill.
You guys did your job.
The Democrats didn't pass anything.
Sean, we did it in an echo chamber.
It was only Republicans.
When you have to go to the Senate, which is controlled by liberal leftist Chuck Schumer from New York, and Biden, who wants to raise taxes, who's controlled by the far left.
No, they were boxed in.
Claudia, with all due respect, they were boxed in.
43 Republicans signed a piece of paper saying they were backing the Republican bill.
It was 44 because Senator Kennedy on my television show said he would join the 43.
So they were committed to standing strong and letting the House bill lead the way.
Anyway, let me bring in Mr. McCormick, sir.
Well, you know, what's your take on all this?
You know, Sean, the biggest thing that I immediately say, I'm not voting for this, is when they didn't rein in the executive orders.
We've known this is a problem for at least three presidencies now.
The fact is, whatever meager savings we get off of that 11% of the budget, which is small, I mean, 11% of the budget, that's what we're addressing, and we only get a small portion of that back.
And the fact is that when a president can, by executive order, grant way more money than we can save, then we're going backwards.
The starting point for me was that we're going to take away the executive orders that have been misused so horribly when you talk about student loan forgiveness and what's next.
It could be anything.
And any savings we make with this bill could be taken away by one executive order without any vote.
And that's what I said.
That's my first stop.
The second one, of course, is the fact that it's such a small portion.
We're not really addressing the major problem, which is, quite frankly, we need to address, you just talked about on your previous segment, health care.
And when we talk about health care, the biggest thing we spend money on, one out of every five tax dollars, one out of five private dollars, and it's the largest inflationary cost to Americans.
And we haven't even addressed it in a small way.
Where administrative costs have gone from 25% to 40% in the last 10 years since I've been an emergency management position.
We have big, big, big problems.
And just a drop in the bucket.
This is nothing.
And I think unless we can get the executive orders out of the way, we haven't really done anything to address the real problem in America.
Claudia, I mean, do you not understand some of this conservative criticism?
I mean, you sound like giddy over this bill.
I don't know anybody that's giddy over it.
Nobody is giddy over it, Sean.
I can't stand the bill.
It's terrible.
But guess what?
We do not have Ronald Reagan in the White House.
We don't have a 60-vote majority.
We were facing a clean debt ceiling that possibly could have been done by some of the moderates, and they easily could have done that.
And, you know, when Warren Davidson, who I consider a good friend, one of the most conservative members, says this is the most conservative bill I've ever voted for in his time in Congress, that tells you something.
What we got was, look, it's not great if it's, as I said, if we were in the majority and we controlled everything.
But this is, we are in a situation where we have to start winning elections.
If we don't start winning elections, we are not going to get to control.
And with all due respect, everyone loved Limit, Save, Grow, including me.
But that was done in an echo chamber.
That was passed by Republicans only.
It was not considered by the Senate.
It was not considered by the White House.
It was dead on arrival.
And if we want to sit around and say we got a bunch of feel-good bills passed, they make us feel great.
They're great for messaging.
They're not making the American people feel better.
They're not cutting inflation.
They're not doing anything to move the ball.
And we have got to move the ball.
And it's all down to appropriation.
Look, so you're saying when the appropriation debate begins, I guess what, sometime late August or September, you know, leading into the next fiscal year, you're saying that that's when all the big wins are going to come.
This is the Super Bowl.
You know what Tom Massey said, who I consider the most conservative member?
He got up in conference and said, I quote, I'm an engineer and a problem solver.
When it comes to voting on this bill, I mean yes.
As a politician, I would vote no.
And I rest my case because I think Tom Massey is one of the most fiscally conservative members in the House.
Absolutely.
Well, it sounds like your mom is making you shove spinach down your throat and you hate spinach to me.
We've got to get something passed, Sean.
We've got to get them in check.
And this is one way to do it.
I don't love the reforms in the bill.
But when you're looking at what we're staring down and when you see the American people and a lot of conservative media people like you who are saying to the Americans, stand up.
This is why the Democrats came to the table.
It wasn't because, oh, you have a four-seat, five-seat majority in the House.
They came to the table because they're spending $7 for a 10-ounce tube of mayonnaise.
They're spending huge amounts for gas.
I'm from New York.
It's almost $4 a gallon again.
We did something that helps that we could get done.
Would I like it to be better?
Absolutely.
If we had a bigger majority and we had more people on board, yes.
But the real test is, can we stick together and can we cut spending when it comes to appropriations?
This is the real test that's coming in the appropriations.
This is where we actually cut, where we exercise our powers as Congressmembers under the Constitution.
We have the power of appropriations.
Let's see if we can do it as Republicans because we can't have 71 Republicans going off away from us.
We have to have all of us on one team voting together.
We can only afford a few defections.
Quick break more with Congresswoman Claudia Tenney and Congressman Rich McCormick as we continue.
Don't forget our town hall, Donald J. Trump, tonight.
We're in Iowa.
All right, we continue now more with Claudia Tenney of New York, Congresswoman, and Congressman Rich McCormick, the great state of Georgia, talking about this budget agreement.
What should take Mr. McCormick?
Do you agree that when we get to September and the appropriations process begins, that that is the opportunity we've been looking for?
Well, I think it'll help.
And to be fair, first of all, Claudia raised a Marine, so I got to give her props for that.
That's an accomplishment in and of itself.
But just think about some of the legends that voted for this, Massey, Jordan, people who have non-negotiable conservative credentials.
I get it.
Where I diverge from a lot of people, and by the way, I think we can bring this back together.
I think we've done a great job so far with a very narrow majority, being able to bring home some very conservative legislation in front of the American people and making people realize the huge difference between the two parties.
The Super Bowl, I think, is actually in 2024 when we elect a new president and when we cake back the Senate, that'll be the biggest thing to me.
But I think in the meantime, I still, the thing that I said was a hard note is when we didn't rein in the executive orders.
Now, I know that would have been a tough one to get passed, Biden.
I get it.
But I would have held out right there because I think the American people would have supported that.
They said, look, that's not how the Constitution was designed where a president can give away your money without your representatives who are supposed to hold the purse strings of America by the constitutional responsibility and the limitations of the executive authority.
That's where it stopped.
Because once again, if the president can give away more than you can save, what's the whole point of this bill?
Well, I think you're raising some good points.
Claudia, how confident are you that we'll eliminate all that IRS money?
How confident in you that we'll claw back all the COVID money?
How confident are you that the work requirements for people that get government handouts is going to be real and have teeth when all is said and done?
Can you assure me today that when I have you back after the appropriations battle goes on, that those things will be accomplished?
You know that I'm going to be voting against all those or for those things and for the conservative side of this.
The question is, can we get the 218 votes we need?
And I want to mention something, Sean.
I got inundated all day yesterday with Democrats complaining about the permitting process and saying that we're against the environment.
And so that was not a part that the Democrats liked.
Although I think we could go even farther and we need to.
Remember something I also got a lot of calls yesterday.
If we lose the United States credit and the United States ability, if we were to go and default, as some of the conservative members said, let's just go into default, that would cost us even more money.
If we lose our reserve currency status, we have less access to capital.
We have higher borrowing costs for all Americans and our lower stock market value.
So that hurts.
Well, that would have been Biden's default as far as I'm concerned.
I think there was more time.
You know, let him sweat it out.
Let him capitulate more than he did.
But that was my take.
Everyone negotiates differently.
You know, an old saying: never be afraid to walk away from any deal up until the minute you sign that paper.
And that's how I live my life.
So, anyway, I appreciate it.
Thank you both.
Claudia, thank you, Mr. McCormick.
We appreciate you being with us from Georgia, 800-9.1.
Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our busy phones from Iowa.
We have our, you know what, we couldn't come to Iowa and not say hello to Senator Joni Ernst, who's with us.
Senator, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing great, Sean.
Thanks so much.
You know, I only really like to come to Iowa for one big reason.
I mean, I like coming all the time.
Don't misunderstand me.
I like to come during the Iowa State Fair.
You know why?
Because I love fried Twinkies.
I like fried Oreos.
I like fried pickles.
I like fried pork chops on a stick.
I like it all.
That's Hannity food.
I love Hannity food.
They don't have Hannity food where I live, unfortunately.
Not enough of it.
You know, they offer you salads that make me want to vomit or these disgusting green or orange shakes that they say are healthy that I wouldn't want to eat if my life depended on it.
But anyway, it's great to have you back.
You're going to have your roast and ride this Saturday, and it's apparently going to be at the fairgrounds.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
It is, Sean.
And it's, you know, anything that's fried and on a stick, you know, that's good in my book, too.
So we are going to have the roast and ride this Saturday on June 3rd.
And if folks want more information, they can go to roastandride.com.
And we have invited all of our presidential hopefuls.
So we have Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Mike Pence, Vivek Ramaswamy, Asa Hutchinson, Perry Johnson, Larry Elder, and, you know, who knows, maybe more announcements yet to come.
Well, I'm just trying to figure out why I didn't get my invitation.
What's up with that?
Oh, well, we have, hey, come out.
Here's your invitation right now, Sean.
Come on out.
We would love to have you there.
And as always, we kick off the day with a motorcycle ride.
And by the way, people don't know this.
You ride a Harley, right?
Yes, I do.
Yes.
So I ride a soft-tailed deluxe Harley-Davidson.
I'll be leading a pack of motorcyclists.
And the ticket proceeds from the motorcycle portion of the day will go to a veterans charity.
And this year it's the Freedom Foundation of Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Great folks.
They are a Veterans Helping Veterans organization.
I have visited them many times.
They are doing tremendous work with just all of our great veterans that might be in need, maybe need a little support, maybe just want to drop in and talk to other veterans.
So great organization.
We'll do the motorcycle ride.
It kicks off at Big Barn Harley-Davidson in Des Moines.
We'll go for about a 45-minute ride, and we'll end up at the Iowa State Fairgrounds.
And that's where we'll have all of our speakers.
We'll have some pulled pork.
It won't be on a stick, Sean, but it is.
No, I like the pork chop on a stick.
Can you make arrangements?
That might be the thing that tips me over the top.
Although, I love the Harley ride.
Here's my problem, Senator.
I got a problem in my life.
Maybe you can help me because nobody's stopping you from riding your Harley.
I want to ride a Harley.
That's what I want to do.
I want a Harley-Davidson.
And everybody in my life forbids me from getting a Harley-Davidson, including my daughter, who will start tearing up and crying and telling me that I'm going to die if I get a Harley.
You know, so one year for Christmas, they thought they were doing me a really nice favor, and they bought me a Vespa instead of a Harley.
I'm like, I don't want a Vespa.
It's like a moped.
And I'm like, if I ever got caught on that Vespa riding that thing in a helmet that wasn't fully, completely covered, I said, you know, my man card is gone.
It's over.
It's done. I'm just forget it.
My friends would dump me as a friend.
I would pay good money to all dolled up on a Vespa.
All dolled up on a Vespa.
Wow, you're just diving in, pouring salt in the wound, Senator.
I appreciate it.
I will be in my leathers on a Harley-Davidson.
Exactly.
I mean, you're a senator.
Your family doesn't harass you about it.
My family has a fit every time I mention it.
They swear that I don't have the ability to ride one and not text.
And that's not true because I now ride my car and I don't text while I'm driving.
Well, that is smart and good on you for that.
But I do wear a helmet.
I will be in my riding boots.
I will wear my leather gloves, you name it.
But I think it's important.
We encourage all kinds of riders.
So, Sean, even if you do want to come and be on your VESPA, you are welcome.
No, no, no.
I don't own a VESPA anymore.
I sold the VESPA.
I got rid of the VESPA.
I couldn't be seen riding a VESPA.
Well, I tell you, we are all inclusive ride.
So if you ride a Honda, a Harley, a Yamaha, whatever it is, all motorcycles are welcome.
Now, are you going to jump in?
I mean, you've got all these presidential hopefuls.
Are you going to jump in and endorse?
I am not endorsing.
And that's the one thing that Kim Reynolds and Senator Grassley and I don't do because we, as the GOP in Iowa, we do maintain the First in the Nation caucus.
And we just want to be welcoming to all of those great candidates that are coming into Iowa and meeting with all of our voters.
And the Roast and Ride on Saturday will be probably the largest single event in Iowa where voters can come out and see all of those candidates all together at one time.
So we're really encouraging folks to come out.
It'll be, again, at the Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines.
We've got all kinds of folks joining us.
It's going to be great entertainment, great food.
Of course, the motorcycle ride in the morning.
But come out, shake hands with all of these presidential hopefuls.
We would love to see everybody there.
Now, when is the full-on state fair?
So the full-on state fair will be in August.
It always starts that second week of August, and it runs for about 10 days.
It is magnificent.
It truly is the best.
No, I got to tell you, it's the best fair I've ever been to.
It is.
It really is.
It is awesome.
It is fun.
We actually did the show once from the fair one year, and we had a great time.
And all I'm doing is sending my staff out.
Get me another pork chop, please.
Get me one more fried Twinkie.
That's all I want.
Another fried, get one more fried Oreo.
Just need one.
It's the greatest food and the most fun you could ever have.
Well, it's great to be back in Iowa.
We're here for a town hall with President Trump tonight.
And he's the only one that's missing from your list.
It'll be interesting if he shows up.
You're saying there might be other surprises, so we'll wait, watch, and see.
But we appreciate the hospitality.
We love Iowa.
We love the people in your state.
And by the way, I stand with the people of Iowa.
What the Democratic Party did by jumping over Iowa and New Hampshire to me was despicable.
Horrible.
Yeah.
And Sean, I've said this many times over, but it's like the National Democrats, they gave Middle America the middle finger because we really need diversity of thought and geography when we're deciding presidential hopefuls.
And instead, what we've done, we've gone to these coastal liberal elites making all the decisions about the Democratic candidate.
And they have forgotten about Middle America.
And thank heavens, you know, the GOP in Iowa, we continue to fight hard to keep our voices heard.
I am so thankful that we've got such a great Republican Party in Iowa.
Well, we appreciate all you do, Senator.
Look forward to seeing you hopefully over the summer.
We'll be here often, and we begin our four-year journey tonight.
We're here, you know, every election year and the year before, and we always have a great time, and the people are wonderful in Iowa to us, and we appreciate that too.
God bless you, Sean.
Thank you.
All right.
Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa, 800-941, Sean, a number.
You want to be a part of the program?
Dawn is in Florida, the free state of Florida.
Dawn, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thank you so much for taking my call today.
What's going on?
I'm talking a little off topic.
You know, it's not budget related, but you are in Iowa, and you're going to see President Trump today.
So I'm calling because I supported him in 2016.
I supported him in 2020.
I had every shirt you could have that said Trump on it.
Unfortunately, I just don't feel like he is electable this time.
And I know he has a big ego, and he did such a great job for those four years, but he was an incumbent, and he did not get reelected.
Listen, I know there was, I'd like to, I think there was cheating that went on, but that doesn't matter.
The Dems hate him, and they will find a way to not get him elected.
And in fact, I'm even wondering if there's somebody deep down in there in the Democrat Party who is exactly hoping that he ends up being the nominee.
Well, if they hope that he's the nominee, if they believe that, by the way, I mentioned earlier Biden stumbled on stage at the Air Force Academy.
You know, remember in the pouring rain, Donald Trump was going down a ramp without a rail with dress shoes on.
Oh, he's walking like an old man.
No, he's walking like a smart New Yorker that knows that those slick dress shoes are going to send you on your ass if you're not careful.
Apparently, Biden, you know, maybe he didn't realize that there was a step, or maybe he thought there was one.
That's even worse.
But anyway, look, I understand your argument.
Let me just tell you one thing, and I think this is important for everybody to know: I don't care who the candidate ends up being right now.
Just let's put politics aside here.
Whoever the Republican candidate is, I promise you, I promise you, that they are going to be demonized by the media and by the left wing in this country.
And the demonization is going to be brutal.
That I can promise you.
And it's, you know, Donald Trump has been around longer, so they've gone after him longer.
You know, look at what it took all these years.
What happened in 2016, we find out the answer to in 2023 that three years it started in 2016.
You know, you know, six years later, it took us to find out that the FBI acted inappropriately without any evidence at all, that they favored Hillary Clinton, that they showed a double standard in their application of, quote, justice, and Donald Trump never colluded with Russia, and nobody apologizes, and even the media that promoted these false conspiracy theories, they're never held accountable.
So, I mean, there is a little perspective to that.
Is he a little bit combative?
Yeah, he's combative, but he also secured the border.
He also kept China, Russia, Iran in check, and North Korea in check.
He also, prior to COVID, was kicking ass with the economy, setting one record low unemployment rate for every demographic group in the country.
He did get us energy independence, and I think the world was a safer place, and I think America was a more prosperous place.
Not one time during his presidency did a gallon of gasoline go over three bucks a gallon, not once.
So does any of that matter to you?
I don't disagree with anything you just said.
Okay.
Yeah, he is the only one that had us in energy independence.
It was a beautiful thing, but it took one day for all those for Biden to completely flip us upside down.
It took one day.
I mean, forget about the, oh, my, I only want to.
What do you think about the Biden laptop from this perspective?
We now know the FBI had the laptop.
They verified the authenticity of the laptop.
And then they had weekly meetings with big tech telling them that they may be a victim of a misinformation campaign, and it may even be about Hunter Biden.
Does that sound like election interference to you?
Do you think if America saw Hunter Biden's laptop as it was reported by the New York Post at the time, that that would have had an impact on that election?
Yes, I definitely do think that, but I still feel like it was kind of stolen, even forgetting the people who crossed over and who did vote for Biden.
I have to say, it still scares me.
Do you think it was a troublesome that part of it that states had laws where partisan observers by law get to watch the vote counting and those laws, there was no accommodation made for those laws?
Does that bother you?
Yeah, that does bother me.
And let me tell you, though, I was one of those partisan observers in 2016 and in 2020.
But you're in Florida.
It was probably better for you.
I'd like to think so.
But I mean, I am in Wasserman Schultz's district, sadly.
Okay, but were you able to watch the vote count up close that you could see what the votes were?
At the last, at the 2022, it was a little better?
No, 2020.
Were you able to watch the?
Well, by the way, they should have made accommodations and upheld the law.
That's my argument.
You know, so I think, you know, I want more election integrity measures.
Look, I hear what you're saying.
You're not the only person that has said this to me, but we appreciate you and glad you're out there.
Thanks for calling and calling again.
We'll hope you'll check in one more time.
Don't forget Trump Tonight, Hannity, Nine Eastern, Town Hall, Fox News.
All right, that's going to wrap things up.
We are in beautiful Iowa.
We have this town hall tonight.
We're really looking forward to it.
And I hope many of you will join us as we're coming to you.
We're just outside of Des Moines, which is pretty awesome.
It's a town called Clive.
It's literally just on the outskirts of Des Moines, Iowa.
Look forward to a big crowd tonight.
And thank you all for coming.
And I think you'll have a good time.
Tune in tonight, 9 Eastern on Hannity, Fox News, Town Hall, Donald J. Trump, 9 Eastern on Fox.
See you then.
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