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June 1, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Keeping the Freedom Caucus - May 31st, Hour 1

Sean reviews the path that Speaker McCarthy took to reach a debt ceiling agreement and where negotiations went wrong.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Looks like this vote on this bill will take place sometime in my hour on TV tonight.
So we'll obviously be following this.
we've had now time to do a deeper bigger dive into the 99 page so-called it's not the fiscal responsibility act let me just let me just disabuse you of that false uh narrative that is being pushed out there just Just isn't.
You know, we have 31 trillion dollars in debt.
And you know what?
We will continue to grow our debt after this bill.
And I I think I put together what has happened and understand it now more than I did before.
Um, you know, and and look, there are it's a fair analysis.
These are let me give you some conservative names.
New Gingrich, the last speaker to balance the budget, holds a lot of credibility with me.
Um and I I do give a nod to his analysis that it's a process.
I'll take I'll underst I understand that part.
I understand you're not gonna get it all at once.
But the Republican bill initially that did raise the debt ceiling that saved 4.8 trillion over 10 years, um was it was they weren't going for everything at once, but it was a significant real first start, you know, a starting salvo.
Um Steve Moore like respect a lot, had similar comments, uh the Washington Times, similar comments, Wall Street Journal, similar comments, New York Post, similar comments, Larry Cudlow backed the deal.
He said the debt deal is not as good as the original limit save grow bill, but I think McCarthy got about 70%.
He says that's awfully good.
Uh I disagree on the percentage aspect of it, and we could talk about that in a minute.
Here's where, you know, you you gotta look at this thing and understand this is Washington.
And, you know, I told you that I would be straight up honest, and when McCarthy, I think McCarthy up to this point in his speakership has done a great job.
And this became a pivotal moment, and I think he made some fundamental errors and mistakes here.
I I hope he learns from it.
If he even has an opportunity to learn from it, there are there are people that are apoplectic about this.
And nobody on the left likes it either, just in case you're interested.
Um and I know that the moderates in the world will say that, well, that means it's probably right in the right spot.
No, it's not in the right spot when we're robbing and we'll continue to rob our kids and grandkids of their future with, you know, a four trillion dollar increase in the in the debt ceiling.
Um, and you know, there are enough people that say, you know, why are we making a deal and normalizing record spending?
All the Republican deal, the limit save grow bill did is go back to 2023 spending levels.
Does that really sound draconian to you?
Later on, we'll have Rand Paul.
You know, a plan that I have supported forever.
The Penny Plan.
It was put out by Connie Mack years ago.
I've been I've been talking about this for you know a decade for crying out loud.
Um, because he's right.
He was right then, he's right now, although it may need to be the nickel or dime plan at this point, although Rand Paul seems to think you still have the penny plan.
And you just cut a penny out of every dollar every year you cut one penny out of spending.
You know, the obvious exceptions would uh be cola increases, cost of living increases, adjustments for uh Social Security, Medicare, which is you know headed towards insolvency with Social Security.
Um, but if I had to look at this and see where this went awry here and why, you know, I I would not vote for it if I was in Congress.
Let me put it that way.
And I just wouldn't.
I think what maybe Republicans, maybe Kevin McCarthy, I think he made some fundamental errors here.
And with the small majority that he has and the the many votes, how many votes do we have before he came speaker?
Like what, fifteen votes?
I mean, you know, he I think he made a fundamental mistake by not keeping his caucus in the loop and communicating with them the entire time about the negotiations at the White House.
And by doing so, it resulted in a lot of unnecessary anger and angst that I think could have been avoided had he sat these guys down and said, okay, this is their latest proposal.
Now, if we wanna if we want to negotiate in good faith, we'll we're gonna end up giving something.
Okay, can you go along with uh allowing the IRS to almost be fully funded at what Biden wanted, a minor cut, nothing major.
You know, are you okay instead of making this a one-year deal to make it a two-year deal?
You know, instead of four point eight trillion in savings, you know, we have estimates anywhere between one point five billion and and two billion or a little over two point two or two point three billion in terms of money saved over ten years versus four point eight trillion.
I mean, that's less than half.
Is that to me that's not enough savings?
Um, you know, if you look at the bill, you know, why are we pushing back future negotiations until after the presidential election?
We ought to make this front and center in the election.
That that Republicans used to be the party that wanted to balance budgets.
Last person to balance a budget, and Newton made this point, and I it's a very valid point that he didn't get it in one full swoop with Bill Clinton.
It was a series of negotiations that went on for many years, and and piece by piece, they slowly evolved into what became a balanced budget uh for the U.S. And and he was the last speaker of the House to ever accomplish that.
So I I respect the process.
I'm not I'm not disagreeing with Newt.
In that sense, are there are there measures that we won on?
Is there yeah, some.
Um what some Republicans like about it is it caps non defense spending growth by no more than one percent in twenty twenty-four and twenty twenty-five.
Okay, I consider that a win.
Um not as good as twenty twenty-three levels, but it's certainly not the worst thing in the world.
Kevin McCarthy is a hundred percent right when he says this is the largest savings ever of any bill, but we've also have the largest debt that we've ever had.
So I think there's a way that you mitigate that.
Uh the bill does claw back twenty-eight billion dollars in unspent COVID funds.
Why didn't they go for all the unspent COVID funds?
Uh it officially cancels Biden's student loan pause repayments m must start now at the the end of the summer, but it doesn't end student loan forgiveness.
Um why didn't they hold the line on that?
Well, why is that now uh a new um you know program that government is what we're gonna pay for people's college?
They're the ones that signed the loan agreement.
I signed my loan agreement, I paid my loan back, I wanna I want a retro repay of the loan that I paid back if we're at now all of a sudden there's gonna be instantaneous student loan forgiveness or student loan pause repayment.
You know, how do you borrow money, sign your name on the dotted line?
You know what you're doing at the time you take out the loan, why would you expect other people to be paying for your education?
Now, what about people that go into the trades?
You know, now they're gonna be paying for kids to go to Georgetown and Vanderbilt and Havett and Ivy League schools and some of the top schools around the country.
I don't think that's fair to people that go into the trades.
Think we're gonna pay for their trade school education?
Are we gonna subsidize their apprentice years program, which it met for many of these trades, you know, you're spending five years as an apprentice, you know, before you can become a journeyman carpenter or plumber or electrician or whatever it happens to be.
Um it marginally expands work requirements.
Okay, that's something Joe Biden didn't want to do, but you know, is it really onerous?
Not really.
Uh funding to Biden's $80 billion plan to double the size of the IRS.
This to me was that's that would have been non-negotiable for me.
That we're going to double the size of the IRS.
They did manage to cut a small amount of it, what $1.4 billion far far cry from slashing it, which is what the original you know limit save growth bill of the Republicans were, although they're saying another 20 billion can be repurposed in 2024, 25, and maybe McCarthy can do something with that money.
But the the provision does not appear in the text of the bill and and some are saying they've agreed to it but if it's not in the text, you know what?
anybody's word in Washington is worthless.
You know they're not they're not the type of people that most Americans are.
I'm a handshake guy.
If I make a deal I recently had a deal that I did with somebody I'm not going to tell you the exact transaction.
So I'm we uh we make a deal I it was something I was purchasing and then okay we all agree.
Let's write it up.
Put up a contract okay we've got an agreement in principle.
For me the deal's over and they said yeah but um we're gonna wait on signing it we want to we want to keep it on the market and see if we can get more money.
I walked I ran away and I didn't take that I'm not dealing doing business with people like that.
You can't accept the deal but yeah in case somebody comes in and offers me more money you're not getting it.
Uh that's not a deal that's not honorable to me.
You say okay we got a deal I'm selling you my tractor I'm selling you my F-150 uh anyway so we you know we have the best case scenario is IRS's expansion will still have an extra sixty billion dollars to work with now Hannity why do you care?
Well because that means that they're gonna make your lives miserable the only person that's been honest that this is going to impact most people in America that make under 400 thousand dollars a year was Janet Yellen.
She probably got yelled at, pun intended, because she said what we knew to be true from the beginning.
You know, let me tell you about these rich people.
They end up hiring accountants and lawyers that know every single solitary loophole that exists.
How do I know that?
Because I hire them also.
I have not one accounting firm.
I have two accounting firms that separately do my taxes.
over by a law firm because we know that my my file is going to be pulled every year.
It's a it's standard operating procedure well you're really entitled to this deduction Mr. Hannity but um you know just so you know this is one of these areas that that the IRS likes to you know take a deeper dive look at I'm like pay it just pay it it's not worth the hassle and then you end up paying more for lawyers on the other side of it.
So what's the point?
So for me it's like they already go after me every year.
But for all of you that are not harassed by the IRS every year uh they'll start going after you.
That's what's gonna happen.
And it just sucks for for let me tell you it's just not fun.
And it's very expensive and you gotta hire lawyers or you know rush taxresolution.com is a great company that does it.
They won't even take your your case unless they know that they'll they'll be successful for you.
So you know I go back to the deal that the Republicans passed.
I could I think that there was room for negotiation if if they look look let me backtrack the debt ceiling artificial deadline of January of June 5th is crap.
It's not true.
We're not gonna be we're not gonna default on June 5th whether this deal is done or not and that's a big lie and it creates the panic in Washington and both sides are deathly afraid that they're gonna get blamed the only one that I would blame would be Joe Biden who wouldn't negotiate in the beginning met once disappeared for 97 days shows up at the last minute and is demanding this that and the other thing and okay now he's finally negotiating but they had five months to do this.
So I really don't care about Joe Biden's you know clock at this point.
Anyway and the left hates it too that's inter that's an interesting part of this we roll along 800 nine four one Sean hope uh many of you were going to be uh with President Trump tomorrow, town hall outside of Des Moines, Iowa.
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Except with fresh air.
Yeah, it's Iowa.
It's indoors.
Yeah, but still it's Iowa.
You know, in New York, it doesn't matter.
You're indoors, you're outdoors, it all stinks.
But in Iowa, it smells better.
You could be be near a pig farm.
I mean, I'm not sure if you'd like the smell of that.
Let me tell you something.
If I was gonna pick over the crackheads on the sidewalk and pegs, I'm telling you right now, I'm going for the pigs.
I'm going for the pigs too.
I'm I'm I'm I'm glad we agreed on something.
Um I mean, I'm all for Iowa over whatever.
But please come see us in Iowa because we're gonna be in Iowa tomorrow.
All right.
There are things that uh many Republicans are saying that they like about the bill.
I'm not saying everything's bad about it.
Uh it's just that I think it could have been better.
And I think they had a better hand, and I think I think there was a communication gap here that's that's gotta be resolved if they're gonna be united uh united caucus and um be on the same page, and that is you know, if you're negotiating with the White House or Democrats, you gotta know that they never want anything that's gonna make sense.
Now they didn't want to negotiate at all.
That's why Democrats are furious at Biden.
I'll get to that on the other side.
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Um, you know, I find this pretty interesting.
You know, one of the most frustrating things to me is what James Comey has gotten away with.
If you look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, all of them.
They all end up becoming, you know, getting richer as a result of what they were involved in.
And to me, it just is unfathomable.
I don't think anybody listening to my voice right now can go before any judge.
Never mind a Pfizer judge, which is supposed to be a difficult warrant to get a hold of.
Remember, Deputy FBI Director McCabe said, well, you don't get a that Pfizer warrant approved without Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dirty dossier.
They all knew it was unverifiable.
Durham Report says, yeah, double standard of justice, they treated Hillary one way, Trump another way.
Crossfire Hurricane or Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have opened.
And all these people, they're writing books, they've got contributor deals with fake news networks.
They're getting paid basically to be full-time Trump hating people.
And this is Comey reacting to the Durham report on the FBI.
Oh, there's always going to be mistakes.
And remember when he was before Lindsey Graham's committee, well, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have signed three of the four Pfizer warrants.
But what we know now is that they knew then.
They knew it.
And they didn't care.
And here's the worst part.
There's no consequences.
So why would anyone be surprised that the FBI, you know, has Hunter's laptop in December of 2019, verifies it, verifies the authenticity in the spring of 2020, and still sends FBI agents to every big tech company in the months leading up to the 2020 election and having weekly meetings with big tech,
warning them they may be victims of misinformation campaigns from foreign nations, and it may be about Joe Biden or even Hunter Biden.
Because that's what happened.
You know, if that's not putting cinder blocks on the scale of an election, I don't know what is.
Oh, there's always going to be mistakes, though.
Oh, no big deal.
Do you acknowledge perhaps that some mistakes were made along the way?
Oh, definitely.
And they were found four years ago by the inspector general.
So there's nothing new in this new document.
What were some of those mistakes from your point of view?
Oh, that the FBI didn't communicate clearly the status of certain sources.
They didn't double check certain information before putting it in a court application for a foreign intelligence wiretap and a bunch of others.
And so do you believe now, as these some of these politicians call for defunding of the FBI, that that has been corrected and that now the procedures are in place to avoid those kind of mistakes in the future?
I think so.
But in complex investigations, there's always going to be mistakes.
It doesn't mean the FBI isn't competent, honest, and independent.
Well, unfortunately, uh they seem to only be competent when they're going after the political opposition.
It's just, it's just sad.
Uh, you know, blaming trust for, you know, then he went on to blame Donald Trump, you know, for the growing distrust that now exists with the FBI.
You know, he's on fake news CNN and polls showing re Republicans rightly don't trust the FBI anymore.
I don't trust them anymore.
We had my cousin who served in the FBI.
Him and his brother.
They were deity when I was growing up.
They were like, wow.
You know, they were they were at the top of the food chain in my family.
The mo the most respected.
They had made it.
This this was the you know, creme de la creme, if you will.
Anyway, and anyway, well, what can be done to change that?
And what if it doesn't change and what happens?
And he says, Well, I think largely because Donald Trump and those around him have seen the FBI as a threat, so they've taken a blowtorch to try and tear down that threat.
No, the FBI's been politicized.
And director Ray says, Well, we put in in place measures to change it.
No, they didn't.
Not enough.
Because if they had put in place the changes, what happened in 2020 as it relates to the FBI warning big tech companies, that they are solely responsible for the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Because they're the ones that were meeting weekly with the big tech companies.
Um, you know, by the way, one House Republican now urging jail time for Christopher Ray, uh, Congressman Scott Perry, chairman of the uh House Freedom Caucus told Justin News, we can't press charges.
We could certainly refer charges.
And if Ray shows up on Capitol Hill, if he shows up in the House Chamber, he can certainly end up in the brig here.
You know, I think these are those are harsh words, but we can't have this defiance, he said during a wide rate right wide ranging interview.
The FBI formally refused to turn over to Congress an investigative memo alleging a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden.
Now, this is what's known as the 1023 form.
And we have a whistleblower saying that it exposes a very specific, believed by Grassley and Comer to be credible.
Uh whistleblower saying that there exists evidence and and testimony of an individual that says that they're that Joe Biden performs certain governmental acts in exchange for family money.
Well, I think they have a right to see that now with the 1023.
Maybe maybe that needs to be seen in private.
Maybe you don't want to make that public right now.
Maybe, you know, we have to, but did they even look into it?
Because they didn't look into the Hunter Biden laptop.
If that was Donald Trump Jr.'s laptop, I promise you.
If it was Eric Trump's laptop, Laura Trump's laptop, Ivanka Trump's laptop.
I promise you that it would be a very different story in terms of the FBI's handling of this, and and that's the problem.
Our Republicans might hold Director Ray in contempt of Congress.
Uh apparently, grassly, I've not gotten any of the details of of what happened in this meeting today, but they had a phone call with Director Ray today.
But the FBI continues to shield records of conversations with Twitter and other groups.
They're brought blocking the release of records of officials privately advising Twitter employees how to thwart perforted election misinformation.
Now, if they're out there with having Hunter Biden's laptop authenticated, and they're on record saying that, oh, the misinformation may be about Hunter, and that is a purely political abuse of power act.
People should be held accountable.
That's why people don't have faith in the FBI or equal justice under the law or equal applications of the our laws.
Why should they?
You know, Kevin McCarthy warning Director Ray that he'll face contempt of Congress charges if he doesn't produce the FBI's Biden bribery evidence by the end of yesterday.
So I guess that's gonna happen.
And Grassley and Johnson and Comer want to know why McCabe, Comey, struck Klein Smith and others didn't cooperate with the Durham probe.
How did they get away with that?
You know, but does does anybody really care about this?
I mean, that's the saddest part of all of this.
Um, you know, one thing I want to say is the Republican primary season now kicks off, and and we'll kick off our town hall series around the country, and we'll we'll get all the candidates on, uh, especially the top candidates.
Now, uh Mike Pence, it was announced is gonna apparently not make his announcement next week.
He's getting in the race, as is Chris Christie expected to make an announcement next week.
You know, Chris Christie's the only one I have no interest in talking to.
Absolutely none.
Because he's made it clear he has one uh agenda item for running for president, and that is to bludgeon Donald Trump.
That's not a serious run for the presidency.
And, you know, this is a guy, interestingly, you know, self-righteous, sanctimonious, that left office with like a 15% approval rating.
You can't get lower than 15%.
I think it's the lowest I've ever seen.
You know, but I I've said this to people before, and nobody seems to believe me.
Whoever the Republican is, and and the media mob and Democrats, you know, this they say, all right, well, we got Donald Trump.
We we've we've slander him every second of every day.
Uh we're not gonna let DeSantis take root in any way.
Over at MSDNC, they you know, if you want a preview, you know, they say if you want to preview of what a DeSantis administration would look like, look to Russia, China, and North Korea.
That's MBC news.
Uh, you know, the view over Sonny Houston belittles, you know, white women.
We'll get into this with Bill O'Reilly as tools of their husbands, and they fall in line and listen to their husbands.
Okay, I I don't know marriages like that, to be honest.
None that I can think of off the top of my head.
I know a couple.
they're called divorce.
Yeah.
In the end of that's probably true.
And anyway, DeSantis is fighting back against Trump.
I might be just naive.
I'm I've seen too many primaries.
Doesn't get this ugly this early, but this is going to be interesting to watch.
Um he continues, you know, the Donald Trump and Ron are going to have their battle.
There's nothing to do to stop it.
Um, but I'm telling you right now, if you want a preview of coming attractions, you know, it's over at DN MSDNC, you know, Trump is a unique threat.
And the liberal media declares DeSantis is even more dangerous than Trump.
I mean, what I've been telling you is it doesn't matter who the Republican is.
They're going to be a racist and a sexist and a misogynist and a homophobe and a xenophobe and an Islamophobe and a transphobe that wants dirty air and water for your children and wants your grandma and grandpa put in a wheelchair and thrown over a cliff and murdered.
Because that that is the playbook 101 every election season, and you'll watch it unfold regardless of who may be up or down at any given moment in a in a primary.
You know, it is, you know, if you to have people in the media actually declaring DeSantis more dangerous.
If everyone is, if everyone is the second coming of Hilton Hill Hitler or fill in the blank dictator from yesteryear, then no one is.
Talking about DeSantis.
I mean, they they just they can't stand conservatives.
That's what it comes down to.
And well, the economy's going absolute atom shift.
Uh 18% of Americans now say they're satisfied with the way things are going.
Okay.
Who are the 18%?
Because they're 18% of the dumbest group of Americans that are out there.
15%, they're part of the 15% supporting Chris Christie.
That's true, too.
That might be it.
John Kerry, uh they're now coming for your burgers on the 4th of July.
They're now saying, you know, he won't refer to this as climate change.
It's now going to be forever called the climate crisis.
He's targeting agriculture as part of his climate crusade.
A guy that's flown around in private jets for decades.
Really?
We're going to get lecture from him about eating beef and about farming.
We have we have we feed the entire world for crying out loud, and we have mastered the science of agriculture, and you want to destroy it because of carbon emissions and tell us what to eat because we're not eating properly according to these crazy people.
The squad Democrats are demanding U.S. stop oil drilling or face severe weather events.
Oh.
Okay.
This is why this country's going right down the tubes.
And here's the worst part.
I don't have a lot of confidence in 2024 yet.
I just don't.
Not sure people are suffering enough.
And I'm worried about the you know, a couple of things.
One is this mass migration, accelerated migration, as I call it.
What's accelerated migration?
People leaving swing states like Pennsylvania in droves, and the majority that are leaving are conservative.
The majority that are leaving Wisconsin and Michigan are conservative.
The majority leaving, you know, well, Arizona's got a unique problem because Californians are moving in left and right and they're bringing their idiotic policies with them.
Same thing with Texas.
I'd almost have a political litmus test before you even consider you know state citizenship for some of these people.
I'm kidding, of course.
Because the left has no sense of humor.
Um if you're gonna move to a red state, uh, keep your dopey, dumb liberal voting record behind.
Or don't bother, because you're gonna ruin the state that you're going to like the state that you left and fled.
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Alright, so uh Chinese spies caught trying to infiltrate U.S. military bases in Alaska.
Uh, what's Joe gonna do?
Probably the same thing he did with the spy balloon.
We had a Chinese fighter jet buzzing uh by U.S. Air Force plane.
Uh what's Joe gonna do?
Nothing.
Defense Secretary Austin asked to meet with his counterpart in China.
They told him to go, they gave him the middle finger and told him to drop dead.
What's Joe gonna do?
You know, what's he gonna do about Vladimir Putin?
Probably nothing.
I mean, it is it is beyond humiliating how uh China is just shoving it right in his face.
And they don't care, and it's obvious they have no fear of Joe Biden.
By the way, North Korea launched their first spital spa uh spy satellite.
It crashed and burned, thankfully.
I do like the Ukrainians bomb Moscow.
You know what?
Let them feel a little bit of the pain of what they've been doing to an innocent sovereign country.
I'm not saying Europe doesn't need to step up, don't misunderstand.
Uh and in a simulated attack, China destroys our navy.
Oh, that's not aggressive at all.
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