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Congressman Jim Jordan - May 9th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh a big week as the investigations into the the Biden family syndicate uh is ongoing and and James Comer's announcement urging prosecutors urging the attorney general not to indict Hunter Biden before Wednesday based on information that he will be releasing sometime tomorrow morning about nine o'clock ish.
Uh but this this investigation in tandem with uh what has been going on in the House Judiciary Committee, that's where Jim Jordan has been leading up the efforts there into whether or not the FBI has been politicized, uh the DOJ weaponized.
Uh Congressman Jim Jordan joins us right now.
Uh and in many ways I would argue that these investigations, while separate, they're they're working in tandem with each other.
Uh is that a is that a right presumption on my part, sir?
Yes, I'm gonna be with you.
Yeah, so think of it this way.
So understand what Mr. Comer's uncovered.
A hundred and seventy suspicious activity reports representing thousands of pages that our Treasury Department has put together about these business and banking transactions from the Biden family, getting money, millions of dollars from foreign entities, funneling it through what looks like now upwards of twenty different LLCs associated with the Biden family.
So that's all what what Jamie's uncovered in in his work.
And then of course you ask the fundamental question that we've talked about, you know, uh what service did they buy, what what warranted this, did they pay taxes on it, tax on it, and then couple that with what we learned in our investigation where the Biden campaign, while all that kind of stuff is going on, the Biden campaign then three years ago is working with um uh working with Mike Morell and the 51 who put together the letter, and he pr he he presents this letter that says, Oh, the uh Biden laptop story was a disinformation operation.
He presents this this letter at the debate as if it was organic, as if it just sprang out of nowhere, and yet we learned that his campaign was was critically involved, intimately involved with putting this thing together, so much so that they were telling they were telling Mike Morrell, here's the journalist we want you to first get this letter to.
So that's sort of the pattern in the big picture we see, and uh we're trying to, you know, get all the facts to get that information to the American people.
And then the case of Morrell, he wanted to provide, quote, a talking point for a debate later that week with Donald Trump, Joe Biden's talking point.
Um there's there's a lot to this.
Do we know of any active people that it might have been involved in in spreading this misinformation?
But we know Anthony Blinken, he didn't he lie about this.
So Anthony Blinken is what prompted Morrell to look into the situation from uh right from the get go on on October 17, 2020.
Um he he he contacts Mike Morrell, then he sends him later that same day a news story on the issue.
Blink uh or Morel looks into it, put together the letter.
But again, I c I come back to the idea that they presented now, and of course it was all it was false.
It wasn't true what the letter said, but Joe Biden uses it just like Morrell wanted him to, as something to fight back against when when President Trump brings it up during the debate.
And because Morrell told us, Sean Morrell told us he said, I did it because I wanted Joe Biden to win.
I wanted I knew President Trump would bring it up during the debate, the laptop issue, and I wanted President Biden to have something to push back against uh President Trump raising the issue.
And it and it played out so well that that uh Mike Morrell gets a call from Steve Rossetti after the debate, and Mr. Rossetti thanks Mr. Morel, and Rossetti is of course the campaign chair, the chairman of the Biden campaign.
So all that's happening and while all that's happening, we know what was the Hunter laptop was true, talking about some of the same things Mr. Comer has uncovered.
Let me go to the issue of the there's there's a lot going on here, and and the question we've got to get to is for example, you know, the FBI we know we did get a lot of information about their involvement in the 2016 election.
We talked at length about it.
Fast forward to 2020, now the FBI uh is is leading up an effort, even though they had the Hunter Biden laptop in December of 2019, uh, but in the months uh uh leading up to the 2020 presidential election, they're meeting Weekly with big tech companies, and according to Yoel Roth's integrity site head at Twitter at the time, uh they're being warned by the FBI that there might be misinformation uh campaigns and it might have to do with Joe and Hunter Biden.
Uh so they were being prepared basically to spike a story that they knew was real and knew was coming.
They were prepping them for something.
It's all it's almost like they were clairvoyant.
How could they know this was coming?
Well, they knew it was coming because they had this thinking laptop, so they're doing a pre-bunk, pre-bunking what they what they anticipate will come out, which is some point the laptop story is going to get out there.
Well, they knew Rudy Giuliani had a copy, didn't they?
Of course.
Of course.
So that they're they're pre-bunking that, knowing it's gonna come out and and coordinating this with all the big tech platforms.
So when it does come out, they're predisposed to say, oh no, this has got to be a hack and leak operation.
We shouldn't really cover it.
So it's already starting to be suppressed.
The the, you know, people can't like it, share it, move it around on social media like that like they would normally do.
And then the clincher was the letter from the 51 former Intel officials, that again, the catalyst for that was the Biden campaign.
Was Tony Blinken contacting Mike Morell.
Morrell, I think wanted to be CIA director in a Biden administration.
He's more than willing, more than eager to be to participate in this, puts it all together, and it gets used just like they wanted, and it was so effective that Rossetti calls up Morrell and thanks him as the chairman of the Biden campaign.
Now, I would imagine that the FBI has some of the top computer experts in the world, right, working for them.
They could have easily in December of January, the latest of 2021, uh verified the authenticity of Hunter's laptop.
John Solomon has reported they did verify the authenticity of that laptop in the spring of 2020.
Have you verified that?
Well, I don't know when they did, but uh you would think that in an eleven month time frame, they'd probably have some time to figure it out uh and do it prior to I guess the what ten months they got in December of nineteen and October of twenty twenty is when the story broke, that you would think some point in there they could have figured out that it was legit.
Um it wasn't like it was a you know it's such a short time frame, but you think in ten months they could figure it out.
Well, I I would argue it was uh it's eleven months, but the person, as I understand it, according to the case in Missouri that then attorney general, now Senator Schmidt was involved in, uh, that the lead FBI uh agent, I guess, special agent involved in this, uh, had written a thesis about how Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.
Uh he was heading up the effort to meet with big tech companies weekly in the in the months leading up to the election.
Is that right?
That's so absurd.
I actually forgot that point, Sean.
I remember reading that through Elvis Chan's deposition, but you're talking about Elvis Chan, who was the point person with big tech in the San Francisco field office, talking with big tech, being being part of this pre-bunking the the laptop story exactly right.
And he wrote his his his graduate degree thesis on the 2016 campaign and the and you know the the the Russian involvement in the 2016 campaign.
But this let me go back to the to the well, let me stay on this blinking issue first, and I'll go back to the Comer issue in a second.
Yeah.
Because you've you've got Mike Morell asking John Brennan on October 19th, 2020.
This is before that Thursday debate.
Can I add your name to this list?
We'll be adding Leon, Sue Gordon, Jay Johnson, and a bunch of other people, and working on Dan Coates, Mike Rogers, etc.
Uh, trying to give the campaign, particularly during the debate on Thursday, a talking point to push back on on uh to push back on Trump on this issue.
And then John Brennan writes back 19 minutes later, okay, Michael, add my name to the list.
Good initiative.
Thanks for asking me to sign on.
Now he knows nothing about this laptop, but he's willing to sign on and say it has all the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Uh that that sounds to me that now we have the FBI putting their cinder blocks on the scale of an election on top of the CIA and and former intelligence officials doing the same.
Yeah, they because they all wanted to they all wanted to stop President Trump.
That's the in the end, it comes down to that.
They all wanted to stop President Trump.
They were willing to sign something that they think was that they thought was gonna help President Biden.
They all just assumed it was Russian involvement with this laptop issue when it wasn't.
We now know that for sure.
Did they assume or did they just not care?
Well, it could have been a little bit of both.
You you may be right.
Uh, I think what they cared most about was helping Joe Biden and stopping President Trump.
And you is that election interference in a way?
Well, they're they were in the private sector, they're gonna say they got a First Amendment right.
But here's the thing.
Sean never what about an in-kind donation?
Well, well, but but never forget when they signed the letter.
This to me is critical.
When they all signed the letter, it wasn't just Mike Morell.
It wasn't just Leon Panetta.
It was Mike Morrell with the title.
That's what gave it the weight.
That's what allowed the big tech company to say, oh, fifty-one people with their title.
Look at that former CIA director, former acting CIA, former head of the OD and I. When they put the title there, former expert on Russia and Eurasia on all when they put all their titles there, they had the title for every single one, all fifty-one.
That gave it the weight where they could say, Oh, we should go ahead and suppress this story and keep it from we the people.
Literally two weeks before the most important election, election for president.
That is that is how bad this was.
I think they have a First Amendment right to do it, but it's still wrong the way they the way they went about doing this and putting that letter together.
When you go back to the Comer Grassley letter, they are very, very specific, and this is what James Comer will lay out on Wednesday of this week, that they believe that they have now that that the DOJ and the FBI have information that would prove that then Vice President Joe Biden took specific actions in exchange for money for Hunter, Devin Archer, and himself.
Do you know about this letter?
Do you know what's in this letter?
Well, it's a form.
I haven't I haven't seen it.
So understand when I when the FBI talks to some kind of witness, someone they're they're talking to.
Like when they talk to Michael Flynn, they put together a 302.
That's the lingo for the form they have.
When they talk to someone that's some informant, some some you know source or some could be some form that's done on a 1023 form.
And my understanding is that was in the letter that Mr. Coma and Mr. Grassley sent to the FBI.
They've asked to see this, uh, or you know, get a response back from the FBI to tomorrow.
Uh I have not seen the form.
I don't know if it exists.
I know that Senator Grassley uh thinks it does, and so we'll find out.
But if it does and it says what is is being alleged by the whistleblower who came to Senator Grassley, then that is that is big news.
I just don't know because I haven't seen it.
I want to see it like I think you do, and like the country would would like to see this.
We just don't know yet.
All right, quick break more with Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio, uh, who is the head of the all-important House Judiciary Committee on the other side, 800-941 uh Sean is our number if you want to call in as well.
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I think I'm the only one that has been harping on this from day one, and that's Joe Biden bragging that he leveraged one billion dollars.
He said this in his own words.
He was telling a story uh that he leveraged a billion taxpayer dollars to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired.
Uh he gave them six hours to fire the prosecutor.
Son of a bee, they fired the guy.
Turns out the guy who did interviews with the Washington Post, ABC, and John Solomon, uh, the prosecutor Victor Shokin was investigating Barisma Holdings and Hunter Biden.
Now Joe Biden had originally claimed that he had never had a single discussion with Hunter about his foreign business dealings.
We know 14 uh meetings that have taken place, at least that I know of, uh, that has been reported, and photographic evidence of Joe Hunter and Farm Business Associates.
You know, what will these LLC show us on uh uh tomorrow or or the SARS report show us?
Um there's a lot of unanswered questions here, but do you think the that the president of the United States profited um from Hunter's private business dealings?
Hunter implicates his own father in his own a laptop.
Well, we we know what we know what an eyewitness has said, and he said this a few years ago, and that's Mr. Bob Alinsky.
He he he was in in partnership with these guys, and he said, Yeah, that Joe Biden was involved that he met with Joe Biden.
So we know what that guy said.
Um how far it goes, we don't we don't know.
What we do know is a hundred and seventy suspicious activity reports, millions of dollars flowing from foreign entities to I know I mean not it was Joe Biden's brother, Joe Biden's son, Joe Biden's daughter-in-law, Joe Biden's sister-in-law.
I mean, all this money going to them, and you you always at least I always do.
I come back to the fundamental question.
What did they do?
What would they do?
What what warranted them getting this money?
I I and you you know was it some kind of investment?
Was it to develop some business opportunity?
None of that ever seems to happen.
So what that what were they getting the money for?
That to me is the fundamental question.
Do you think you'll get that answer?
And if the answer is they didn't do much for the money, then what?
Yeah, I think I think that's that's why it's it's suspicious.
That's that's one of the many reasons why it's suspicious.
I think the number of times the money was put sent to this LLC and then another LLC, I think that's suspicious in and of itself.
The fact that you can't you can't find what they did to warrant getting uh payment.
Uh, I think all that adds to the suspicious activity, and we'll just have to see as we continue to dig in.
Frankly, we'll see what the FBI says tomorrow uh when uh when they're supposed to give this document over to Chairman Comer.
Uh rumor is that you might have some breaking news tonight.
If you do, you're welcome on Hannity to break it.
If uh that happens, we look forward to seeing you.
Yeah, we're working on uh we're working on a report on um on uh a final uh report or an interim report actually on the morel situation in uh 51.
We think we got some new information that's pretty darn important, but we're trying to just get that all finalized before we go.
Uh but we'll look forward to coming on tonight.
All right, Congressman Jim Jordan, great state of Ohio, sir.
Thank you as always.
We appreciate it.
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Uh let me by the way, there was a great exchange, Jackie Heinrich at Fox News, along with Karin Jean Pierre on the issue of, oh, last night was movie night.
Meanwhile, all hell is breaking loose.
Uh as of Thursday, Title Forty Two is gone.
Uh we've got a disaster.
You see the miles and miles and miles of people, you know, just waiting to flood into the country uh because of the end of Title 42.
Uh Joe Biden doesn't have a plan and he's too busy eating popcorn and and falling asleep during a movie.
Maybe he's probably watching Mario Brothers.
Who knows?
Listen.
You have laid out all the things that the White House wants to tackle from the country careening toward a debt limit crisis to Southern Border preparing for up to twelve thousand illegal crossings a day, potentially after Title 42 ends.
This week you opened the briefing talking about the crisis of gun violence.
Why is the president talking about meal vouchers for canceled flights and holding a movie night at the White House with all those things going on?
Because he's president, and there are multiple things that the president do does, and he can talk about uh uh the potential manufacturing crisis that House Republicans have put forth, uh, and that could happen if they don't get back to regular order.
He can talk about how he's delivering for families.
I think the airlines uh announcement that the president made is incredibly important to American families across the country.
I hope you think so as well.
Oh, he's watching Super Mario.
What's the name of the new Marrier Brothers movie?
You would know this, Linda.
You have a seven-year-old.
I I actually should know this because I'm supposed to take Liam to see it, and I I'm Googling it because I'm like, well, I don't know.
It's like the Super Mario Brothers movie.
I think is just if I had to guess, that's the movie that I bet Joe Biden watched.
You know what I watched last night?
What?
Um it just it was just released fairly recently, The Pope's Exorcist, starring Russell Crowe.
Oh, you gotta watch it.
I mean, it's it's really that sounds great.
No, it really is good.
I'm just I I'm telling you, you like it.
What's it about it it does not have well, it's about the Pope's exorc.
I don't want to give away the plot.
We can give it to like the truth.
But this was specifically the Pope's Exorcist involved in what is one of the, if not the toughest exorcism uh ever undertaken.
Now remember the the Catholic Church for years has believed in exorcism.
And uh, you know, years and years ago when I you know did late night radio uh for one you know year of my life, uh I used to have on this guy, Father Malachi Martin.
Um, and man, he would tell his stories.
They were pretty they're pretty chilling.
Uh anyway, if you believe in good and evil and believe in possession, whether you do or not, you're gonna find it interesting.
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Roger, Illinois.
Roger, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
I am doing great.
Thank you, Sean, for doing all that you do for us.
Well, thank you for letting me do it.
It's an honor, and uh great to have you on the show.
Yes.
Uh what I had a question for you was uh the new job numbers come out, and of course, uh they're you know being touted is pretty good.
And they always adjust it for seasonal this and for seasonal that.
Why can we not, and shouldn't it be adjusted for if we're getting 10,000 immigrants coming in a day in the country?
Shouldn't that be taken off of the jobs?
Well, yes and no.
What nobody noticed in the last job report is that they adjusted the previous month's job report downward by 123,000 jobs.
So they said, Oh, we had a great month, 250,000 jobs.
Well, you can take away uh 125,000 of them uh because they seasonally adjusted down the previous month.
In other words, they overreported the previous month to make it look better than it was, and that kind of gets buried, and then the you know, sycophant Media uh mob just goes along with the talking points.
Oh, the the economy's not that bad.
Listen, I just uh urge everyone to ask themselves how's the economy of Joe Biden working for you?
And if you ask that question, I think uh there's very few people that I know that will give good grades to Joe Biden on the economy.
Uh we've got a banking crisis.
That's not good.
We've got Joe Biden now has brought us to the brink of default.
Uh he has not met, I mean, the meeting today, big deal.
It's been a hundred days since he met with Kevin McCarthy, and uh, you know, we have what, twenty-two days until uh Janet Yellen says we're gonna run out of money and start defaulting.
Nearly half of baby boomers.
Now, baby boomers are a little bit I'm at the end of the baby boomer uh uh era, and guess what?
Nearly half of baby boomers have no retirement savings, none of it.
I mean, I that means these people are gonna have to work to the 85 or until they drop dead.
It's unreal.
That's not fair to them.
Now Biden is going after your dishwashers uh on top of let's see, your air conditioners on top of your gas stoves, on top of your meat, on top of everything in between.
It's unbelievable.
And by the way, your new dishwasher uh will have twenty seven percent less power and thirty-four percent less water if the White House has their way.
Isn't that good news for you?
Don't you you don't sound excited about that?
Oh, I'm not.
I mean, I'm I'm in my you know early sixties, and I've seen our retirement just you know slowly disappearing, you know, because of the economy.
And bringing back the point of the jobs that you talked about being adjusted down.
If you go on to Google and look, you have to look a very long time to find on the internet that they've adjusted those numbers down.
Look, I'm gonna give everybody financial advice without giving financial advice because I'm not a financial advisor.
Um, if you can reduce your exposure to the market, there's ways you can do it.
For example, uh, I called my financial guy.
I said, I don't trust the stock market.
I hate it.
I've told him this for years.
I said, is there any way now that they have what was it, 4.8 or 5% uh annual one-year treasuries?
I said, is there any way I can I can move any money from one account to uh a treasury account, a one-year, five percent return, uh without having to pay any penalty or or any taxes.
And he said, yes, you can use your retirement accounts to do it.
I said, good, put all of it in there.
And that's how little faith I have in the stock market.
So, you know, we'll find out what happens.
Uh speaking of investment opportunities, uh, you know, inflation is out of control.
Prices rising, now a banking crisis.
Uh now we're bailing out billionaires and millionaires, as long as they're Democrats.
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Rick Indiana.
Rick, how are you?
Glad you called.
Good Sean.
How about you?
I'm good, sir.
Uh, I want to talk about the FBI.
And I hear what you're saying.
I agree with you to a certain to a great extent that, you know, the bad apples, if you will, are at the top of the tree, basically.
But, you know, even some of the rank and file.
Um, for example, the the Stephen Friend, the um FBI agent who was a whistleblower and then either resigned or was fired.
I can't, I think he was fired, actually, uh, for holding to his beliefs.
We need more of the FBI rank and file to do that.
For example, the um SWAT members, SWAT FBI members that raided the pastor's house, they should have declined that.
And when I say that, you know, it's easy for me to say sitting back here.
Um, but you know, again, the Nuremberg trials proved one thing, and that is that the lower echelon Nazis, if you will, I'm not comparing the FBI to Nazis, but the lower echelon people tried to rely on, hey, I'm just following orders, and it didn't work.
So I mean, I really think that rank and file members need to stand up to management, if you will, and say, no more.
I'm not gonna do this, I'm not going to go to school board meetings, etc.
etc.
Well, let me let me give you an example.
Um we interviewed both on radio and TV, former FBI special agent, uh, Nicole Parker.
Now he here was a person that was in one of the buildings next to the the Twin Towers when they were hit on 9-11 2001.
There were oh, I don't know, 50,000 applicants and only 900 openings, and she got one of them.
And she worked on some of the highest profile cases down in the Miami Bureau of the FBI.
And I've had her on.
She's one of the whistleblowers.
And she left and left before she she was vested in her pension, um, even though she put her life at risk every day and took a big pay cut by leaving the financial industry.
And that's somebody that I would argue is the rank and file.
Now, it's hard for I mean, it's easy for us to sit here and say, well, quit your job, uh, give up your retirement.
You got six years to go, you've worked hard for that retirement.
You, you know, what are you going to do to make you know ends meet?
You've got a mortgage payment to make, you got a car payment to make, you got kids to send to college.
Um it's, you know, it's kind of easy to tell people what they should and shouldn't do and how they should stand on principle, but there are certain realities that most people face that it makes it prohibitive for them to do such a thing.
Now, they can't they can speak out, and once they become a whistleblower, they're persona non grata.
Uh, that's the sad part of this.
The one thing that I'm hearing, though, regularly from either people that I know that have retired or are even still on the job, uh, or the people that have become whistleblowers, is that it is not the same FBI that it was five years ago.
That it definitely has been politicized and weaponized.
And we we can't have that happen in this country.
Remember, you might remember back in the day that the church committee hearings, etc.
We we're gonna need we're going to need serious real reform and get back to the mission of the FBI to me, which is to be the world's premier law enforcement agency.
Um I think it's a lot to ask, you know, rank and file guys that are doing a good job every day uh to step away from their job and protest.
Um that that's a lot to give up on their part.
I hear you.
And and it's easy for me because I'm retired, uh, retired trial lawyer, and so I I totally get what you're saying, and I get that.
There may be uh an interim, you know, proposal though.
I mean, if they're sent on a mission, for example, when they sent the SWAT team to out to that pastor's house, um they could blow the whistle on it, um, they could quit, or they could just say, hey, this is an illegal order, it's an immoral order, and I'm not gonna do it.
And if they get fired, you know, there's a lot of good employment lawyers out there that would take that case and probably win it.
Now I but I hear what you're saying.
I I totally listen I've I've I deal with lawyers way more than anybody in this anybody would ever know unfortunately.
It's uh you know they've we they have weaponized and we're now criminalizing or they're attempting to criminalize political differences.
Look you gotta understand in the environment I work in there there are people that monitor every single solitary word I say on a daily basis.
There are psychos living in their basement getting paid to listen to me and in the hopes that they'll catch one word, one phrase, one sentence that they believe or deem would get me fired or boycotted or or taken off the air.
I mean any conservative lives with with that hovering over their head every second they're on the air.
So and I'm not complaining.
I'm just saying what the reality is it listen the right people that that know about corruption I would agree at the right time have a moral obligation to speak up and say something.
And I think many of them are and way more than we know.
Does that help you?
Yeah no no doubt about it it's it's a tough call.
Hey, could I segue to another topic?
I'll do it briefly.
You have less than a minute.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I'll do it quickly.
Republicans, they blow things all the time, and that's what I'm talking about, is the Manhattan hearings where Madeline Brame was reacting to Dan Goldman, and Jim Jordan rightfully cut her off because it was Goldman's time.
And then Elise Stefanik is next up, and she just launches into a standard deal.
And, you know, as a trial lawyer, it really bugged me because all she had to do to do was look at Madeline and go, you weren't allowed you know by rules to finish can you go ahead and finish she was about to make a powerful point and you had her on your show.
She was a powerful powerful speaker.
So that's the only point I wanted to make in terms of segue to you know use your head Republicans I mean don't miss golden opportunities like that.
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