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Politicizing Tragedy - May 8th, Hour 3
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Thankfully, law enforcement sources now have identified the suspect in Saturday's Deadly Mall shooting in Allen, Texas.
Eight dead, several others injured.
Mauricio Garcia is the individual, 33 from Dallas, Texas, according to records obtained uh by Fox News uh digital.
The suspect's age address vehicle matches the description of details that law enforcement had provided.
Uh they've been on their game, and and thankfully, uh, you know, I mean, it's just a tragedy every time.
And then, of course, the predictable, oh, it's the guns, it's the guns, it's the guns debate uh happens.
Uh Trey Penny is with us, president of the National Fallen Officer Foundation, 22-year-retired Dallas police sergeant.
Uh, he is now an official candidate for the U.S. House in Texas Congressional District Three.
He's gonna win this district.
Uh, and that would include Allen, Texas, uh, and he's with us now, sir.
First of all, our thoughts are prayers or sympathy for the people in in your district, your community, uh it's horrible.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Sean.
Um, look, I mean, I I've lived up up in District Three for over 20 years, and um, you know, this was one this is one of the safest districts that anyone could have could be a part of.
And it's unfortunate that um, you know, we have to deal with something like this.
But I this is a narrative that I've been talking about for the longest of time because of the impact of social media.
No community in this country is safe.
It doesn't matter where you are, where you live, doesn't matter what the demographics are.
The bottom line is as long as individuals are able to be influenced, there's always a potential for this type of behavior to occur.
And unfortunately, out of the 242 mass shootings in this country this year, Allen, Texas was part of it.
And we lost kids.
We lost young people.
Uh this this is sick.
This is sick, Sean, and we gotta put an end to it.
It was a story about a mother of two who survived this mall shooting Saturday, and she revealed she was saved by a store staffer at one of the outlets many shops at the cost of this unnamed worker's life.
Mother of two survived the the mall shooting, revealed that she was saved by this store staffer um and by this unnamed worker's life.
Anyway, appearing for a video interview, the mom recalled how she began her impromptu shopping trip, pulls up to the mall.
At that point, Lee was in the midst of of shopping, but soon grew pac grew panicked, and she and another shopper heard the the shooter's initial hail of bullets, and in the chaos as it ensued, the unnamed store associate gathered a frantic uh Lee and twelve others, including several children, and ha and hid them inside the store's bathroom closet.
The worker then left the group and then Lee, hours later escorted out by the police on her way out.
She realized that among the mass of bullets and bodies outside was the store worker that saved her life.
I mean, there are heroes in the midst of these tragedies.
It's unbelievable how brave people are.
Absolutely.
Oh, those are the stories that that you're gonna hear in the coming days and coming weeks.
And I actually have a personal story related to this.
Uh one of my friends who just so happened to be a police officer in another city, called me at about three 335 yesterday.
I mean, at on the day of the shooting, and I was actually at the Galeria Mall, which is about 15 minutes away from where the actual shooting happened at in the in the Allen Mall.
And he called me and told me that his his ex-wife and his daughter were bonkered down inside of a a pr a pretzel shop where the shooting was occurring.
And so what had happened was his um his ex-wife had got all these people together.
She was prior military.
She got all the people together, and she she barricaded them inside of a closet, and they could hear the shooting.
He actually actually could hear the shooting while he was on the phone with his when his with his bate with his young daughter on the phone, um, you know, and the shooting was going on, and all he could do is try to say, Sarge, can you get there?
Go help my family, go help my family.
And I'm shooting across town trying to get there, and it was just chaos, Sean.
It was chaos.
Nobody could get in, nobody could get out.
We didn't know what was what.
And that's the that that's the tragedy of these type of crises that uh you have regular, everyday people that are dealing with this and they have to figure out how to cope.
You know, I was actually gonna try to get I would love for him to come on and tell his story, but that family is still traumatized by that situation, Sean.
And these are the other are the things that the American people are dealing with unnecessarily because we don't know who these these individuals are that are being radicalized that are coming after us.
They're coming after our family.
And if we don't find a way to mi mitigate these outcomes, we're all going to be I we already know ways to protect schools.
I said it a million times you you you surround the perimeter, you have metal detectors, you have armed retired police and military inside and every kid goes through a metal detector.
Guess what?
And every door is locked.
You can't get in or out unless there's an emergency and then you have a con some contingency plan of something and the same thing would go for a mall, the same thing would go for any area.
And by the way, if we have to walk through a metal detector to get in a mall, so be it.
You know, we can protect people.
Well these are these are outdoor malls.
So this is actually so when you drive up like the store like the the open when you park you can walk right into the store.
So it's not like an actual traditional mall setting uh like the gallery would where you actually go inside of a building and everything is inside.
Uh be this was like I mean there's it's like very there are very limited ways to mitigate someone wanting to um you know come and just shoot people in the public.
And and the bottom line is and and I've always said that we need to have a an armed society.
We need to have people uh that are willing to be armed that are willing to respond whenever these type of things happen.
The average student response time is six to eight minutes.
Thank God that that this this officer was able to respond within a matter of four minutes.
Uh I I think that I I think that's the report that I'm that I'm receiving.
But the bottom line is uh when these incidents happen we gotta have people that are armed and prepared to respond at the time of the situation so that law enforcement when they come, they can go in and subdue the suspect if they can um but look we gotta just we gotta encourage our citizens to become a part of the solution and not a part of the problem.
Social media is a is a big issue that we have to be concerned about Sean and unfortunately we can't get politicians on board to figure out how we're gonna mitigate certain content being pushed out to the American people.
Well that's why we are supporting your candidacy you're gonna be running in the twenty twenty four election uh in district three and uh that does represent this area and uh Sergeant Trey Penny we love having you and thanks for the update again our prayers to your community and our our thoughts are with everybody that has suffered there.
All right thanks a lot Sean appreciate it.
800 nine four one Sean our number you want to be a part of the program Randy in Nebraska Randy Hi how are you?
Glad you called well good afternoon Sean this is a huge honor for me.
Well the honor is all mine.
What's going on?
Well I'm a lifelong Democrat that's listened to you for twenty years.
Right.
Um I consider myself a Joe Manchin Democrat we're and you know we're out there there are still conservative Democrats.
There's not a lot of you to put it that way.
There there may be more than you think um but that being said though I've I've never voted for for a Republican for president and uh I've been voting a long time.
I don't miss I don't miss an election.
I mean look what they did to Joe Manchin.
Look at how they made specific promises.
He had specific provisions he wrote into the bill uh specific energy promises and other promises and spending promises and they reneged on every single solitary one.
And so he came on my TV show you I you may or may not know he was on a couple of weeks ago and he's like he's disgusted.
And and by the way he should be disgusted.
Well he's he's done more for West Virginians so and I must say this he's done more for West Virginians than any Republican could do.
Okay so why do you find yourself in alignment with people that have now adopted this climate alarmist religious cult that goes to the heart of destroying the economy of West Virginia.
Well I I have been pushed to the brink it's not just the uh the climate it's the the border chaos.
Let me let me let me push you over the brink and tell you that you're voting for a party that does not represent the interests of the people of West Virginia that I can tell you.
Well I'm not from West Virginia but I'm just saying he's he's my kind of my idol right now is Joe Manchin.
I I would like to see the Republicans uh reach out to us in the Democrat Party.
Um you know I I'm for energy independence.
Okay you're for border security energy independence I I think you want fiscal responsibility is that a good guess?
Yes but uh I I I have I have been a believer in some socialized medicine.
Um I do where where is socialized medicine work so well that you think that we can do it here.
Well like if like Obamacare promised you keep your doctor, keep your plan, and the average family would save twenty five hundred dollars a year.
So I think m successful in Canada and uh in the Scandinavian countries.
Then why does k why do Canadians and people in Scandinavian countries fly to America when they need immediate care for serious issues like cancer and heart attacks?
Those are the ultra rich that don't want to wait, and I get that.
Okay, so so the people on the government plan have to wait.
I don't have to wait.
If I I need heart surgery, I don't have to wait.
I I I I'm I'm with you.
It's just and I I I think it was Ron Paul that said years ago, the problem with our medical system is insurance.
Let me just point out it's not just me.
If anybody listening to my my voice right now, God forbid, was having a heart attack, you pull up to the any hospital right now, they will take care of you immediately.
There's not going to be any questions about your insurance card a payment at that moment.
You will be taken care of and stabilized first, maybe even operated on first, and that will be dealt with later.
I I I'll I agree with that.
I agree with that.
So socialized medicine is not what it's cracked up to be.
I'll give you the numbers.
Millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans, and we have fully forty percent of the American people now have one Obamacare exchange option, and the average increase is about two hundred and fifty percent in terms of premiums for far less coverage than people were used to.
Unfortunately, though, some people, because they have to spend two nights in an emergency room, shouldn't lose everything they've worked for all their life.
Agreed.
You know, that listen, that's why I'm been a big big advocate of these health quick care cooperatives like Dr. Josh Umber in in uh Wichita, Kansas.
They have fifty bucks a month, unlimited care.
And then you usually leave with the medicines at a ninety percent discount, whatever prescription you need, uh you'll leave with that medicine at it again, a ninety percent discount.
Kids are ten bucks a month, uh as many visits as you need, and they can handle most things and even some cancer drugs that you're even able to provide at a ninety percent discount.
All right, quick break.
Uh Randy, stay right there.
We'll get right back to you on the other side as we continue 800 941 Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, as we continue, eight hundred nine four one Sean, our number if you want to be a part of the program.
We continue with a call of Randy is with us.
Um there are other ways to look at this more entrepreneurial.
I think telemedicine should be the future as well.
You know, for example, when I was a kid or my kids were younger and they get the croup, you know, I didn't end up going to the hospital at two in the morning and I'm there at you know, eight o'clock in the morning, and you know, I'm I'm holding the steamer up against my kid that is useless instead of just getting the the prednisone or whatever shot it is that lowers the inflammation in their in their throat.
If we can get away from medical for just a second, I would like to see us go back to energy independence.
And that's one thing I will give uh President Trump a lot of credit for.
If you would have told me in the 70s, eighties or nineties that we're ever going to be energy independent, I would have said you're out of your mind.
So then why would you ever vote for a Democrat again based on everything we've talked about?
Uh ask me, I mean, but don't don't call me a communist.
I I I I admit I believe I asked you a question and you said don't call me a communist.
Why would you ever vote for a Democrat again based on what you're telling me?
I am pro-choice.
I'm I uh I abhor abortions, but I am pro choice.
Okay.
Abortion is legal in almost every state.
If you want an abortion, you can have an abortion.
The six-week ban, though, is is a bad thing.
Okay, so you prefer not it not be six weeks.
But you know what?
Twelve weeks.
I could live with twelve weeks.
Okay.
First trimester, twelve weeks, fifteen weeks was the Dobbs decision in Mississippi.
Okay.
Why would so if uh you can get an abortion in America.
You can get it in almost every state up until the third the period of time you want it to be legal.
You're you're hurting the poor with these laws.
A rich kid, a rich sixteen-year-old girl, she could live in Oklahoma and her parents can take her somewhere to get an abortion.
It's poor that are that are hurt by these bans.
Is very if uh you you could just jump over to you know, any one of the nearby states and get the abortion at a later date if you want.
It's a car that's a car ride or a bus ride away.
Okay.
Well, if you have the money.
Um, I mean, you gotta pay for the abortion, right?
Now now, as a Republican, if you're going to try to say, Randy, come on board, I'm sick of the trans agenda.
I I believe they have a place at the table.
I just don't want them driving the bus.
You know, I don't care what adults do, leave the kids alone and stop indoctrinating them, especially because you failed so miserably at teaching them the fundamentals and the basics.
But I agree with you.
Okay.
Then you go vote for Joe Biden and for a second term and see what happens to the world in the country.
Good luck with that.
That's why that's why I'm calling you, Sean.
But reach out to us.
We're there.
Reach out to us.
Okay.
Not every good Democrat's a dead Democrat.
Reach out to us.
We're here.
But my hand is stretched out as far as it can be.
I'm trying to pull you over.
You know what I miss, Sean?
I miss you.
I've listened to you for over 20 years.
I miss when you used to say you're a great American.
You're a great American.
Now come over to the other side and help save the country because things are not looking good right now.
It's not looking good uh economically at home.
It's not looking good at our borders.
It's not looking good with energy, it's not looking good with China on the move.
It's not looking good every time Joe opens his mouth.
It's uh getting a little scary.
Uh anyway, I am glad you're listening.
And I think by the time we get to November 2024, you'll be fed up with all of this, and I think that uh you will be fully completely hanitized.
Just stay with me.
Uh we just need you till November 2024, okay?
I've enjoyed it, Sean.
Appreciate it.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh Linda, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now polling against Biden at 19%.
Did you ever expect that would happen?
I mean, it makes me very happy.
Yeah.
Well, you like his position on on vaccinations, et cetera.
I do.
I I actually just like the fact that he's willing to just kind of stand out and be his own person.
You know, there's a lot of things he says about.
Oh, he got the cra he gets the crap kicked out of him.
As a matter of fact, he doesn't care.
I love it.
He did an interview, I think it was with PBS.
No, is it PBS or ABC?
I forget.
And anyway, so he made comments.
Now, again, this is his opinion.
He's running for president.
You don't have to agree with him, but people have different views.
And he gave his opinion about vaccines.
He's been anti-vax for a long, long time.
And I know people that are convinced that they will sit there with uh religious fervency and try to, you know, tell me that vaccinations for kids can is related to autism, and they believe it.
I don't know.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm not going to play one on the radio, but that's what they believe.
They'll make strong arguments on their on on their side.
They talk about the mercury that's inside the vaccination, etc.
etc.
Uh and I know this is something you're way into more than I am.
But he'll be on Hannity tonight, so that's why I'm playing this.
He believes the CIA was responsible for his uncle, former president John F. Kennedy, and his assassination.
This is what he said.
Who do you think really killed your uncle?
Well, I think there's overwhelming evidence.
I think it's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point.
In terms of my uncle's death, the evidence is overwhelming.
It was involved in the murder and then the cover.
I mean, I can't wait to ask him about that tonight.
I mean, that was pr that kind of came out of nowhere.
Um, and you know, there it was interesting.
Do you remember there was a point during the Trump years where he was going to release all the information associated with the JFK assassination and then decided against it.
I never got an answer why, but I am curious as hell as to why.
So you're gonna ask him tonight?
Yeah, of course I'll ask him tonight.
Cool.
Um I think you're gonna have a very interesting conversation with him.
We can try and give him some time.
No, he's not a typical Democrat for sure.
Definitely not.
I don't even dislike him.
I mean, we I have to.
No, I I mean, I now it what's interesting is can he get above a nineteen percent threshold?
In other words, if sixty-eight percent of them of the country do not want Biden to run.
I mean, and that's Democrats.
So does he have a shot?
He may.
You know, I'm sure he has a shot.
For sure.
Will that then invite others like Gavin Newsom into the race?
That's an interesting question, too.
Um all right, let's get to our phones here.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Joel in the Free State of Florida.
Hey Joel, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Sean, I as I told uh Katie, I w I don't quite share your faith uh in the uh the what we call the ninety percent people of the uh the rank and file in the FBI for two reasons, if you listen.
Number one, all the uh uh congressional uh investigations are not going to change the the FBI.
It's gonna take the rank and file in mass, and we're not getting that just to stand up.
We you know, we'll get a a uh you know, a whistleblower or two, but we're not getting them.
Another one that I find more Well Jim Jim Jordan is saying we're gonna get dozens of whistleblowers, so we'll see.
Okay.
Okay, but what I do find frightening, and then nobody has brought this up is for years and years the FBI has been recruiting heavily on our nation's college campuses.
That in itself needs to be looked at because who do you think is setting the recruiting standards?
Well, Strapp, Comey, and now now Christopher Ray.
And that that concerns me, and I don't see anybody even considering that.
Also, the deck the documents that uh hopefully will be turned out uh that shows uh complacency with uh Hunter Biden and his and his father bribery, I don't think will ever show the b light the light of day, because if they if the FBI and the uh Department of Justice releases these, they'll have to answer questions about why they've been keeping.
And they're not gonna admit complacency with uh with this, and that was what would would come about.
I believe these documents you know we've got the uh uh zombie cases in New York.
These these documents are are going to be the uh the Dracula or the vampire cases of of uh uh uh uh because I don't think they'll ever see the light of day, Sean.
You know, look uh we're gonna find out a little bit more.
I I'm not sure what what Calmer's has exactly my suspicion is they've got information that links that that is going to show that the Biden family syndicate knew darn well that they were doing business, including Joe, uh with foreign countries, uh violating you know, in you know, not only tax laws, but I think it's gonna run a lot deeper than that.
I don't want to jump the gun on it.
Yeah.
And we'll wait and hear what Comer has to say on on Wednesday.
As far as the rank and file of the FBI, uh here's my problem with with using the broad brush that you're using.
The trouble that I see at what should be and once was, the world's premier law enforcement agency.
It seems to all be coming from the top.
Those that have played the political game, they've risen through the ranks, they've gotten to the top positions of power, and they seem to have a political agenda.
That is where you know a everything starts at the top.
And I believe that unless they clean this, they're able to clean out all politics from the FBI and return it to be again the world's premier organization, a law enforcement organization, then they might just have to scrap it and start over.
Well, because you can't you can't have a politicized FBI, but I'm not gonna c I'm not going to condemn the ninety percent of FBI agents that get up and go to work every day, risking their lives, you know, going up against cartels and and murderers and and gangs and kidnappers and and bank robbers and all these other people and risking their lives for us.
I I refuse to do that.
I'm not Well, I I you know I can see that and I agree with you, but I'm just saying it should be looked into.
You know, what what you know the I I'm concerned that some of the people are in fact, you know, not not the ninety percent people that we we want to uh deal with.
You know that that that's exactly what Jim Jordan's committee is tasked with.
They're in at the Judiciary Committee.
That is what they are looking into, whether your FBI is politicized and whether the DOJ has been weaponized.
We're gonna know the answers at some point.
I think there now are too many whistleblowers out there.
I've interviewed a couple of them.
And they are telling me that this is not the FBI that they signed up for, that they've noticed a discernible change in the last seven years.
That's what they're all telling me.
They're all saying the same thing.
And when retirement age comes, they can't get out of there fast enough.
That's what they're telling me.
It could be, and like I say, it it frightens me that maybe, just maybe, that some of the people they're recruiting are just not uh not the people that have the value.
Well, look at the guy that was in them.
I'm not trying to condemn him on a broad brush, not all of them.
Listen, look at the guy that was chosen to head up the effort uh to talk to big tech companies in the lead up to 2020.
He was a relatively had to be a relatively new agent because he had written a thesis on how Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election.
That was his thesis.
And then he's the guy that they chose to lead the effort in the months leading up to the 2020 presidential election to meet weekly with big tech companies and warn them that in fact they may be victims of a misinformation campaign, and that misinformation campaign uh included uh issues involving Joe and Hunter Biden.
Now, the FBI had Hunter's laptop in in December of 2019.
John S Solomon swears that they authenticated it in the spring of 2020, and they knew that Rudy Giuliani had a copy of it and it would likely leak.
So for Yol Roth to testify in that Missouri case, he's the former integrity site head at Twitter, uh, that in fact uh they mentioned Hunter Biden as possibly being the misinformation target.
Well, all they were doing was preparing big tech for a censor campaign, which is what we ended up getting.
That was not the right person to pick for that job.
As a matter of fact, if somebody has that that strong a political bias, they shouldn't have been hired by the FBI.
You know, just like if you if you uh do drugs, if you had associated with really bad people, you're not going to be hired, or at least in the past, you wouldn't be hired by the FBI.
Anyway, appreciate uh uh what you uh had to say.
I just I I respect so much.
I I've said this many times.
There was so much law enforcement in my family, with my own mom, a prison guard, my dad a family corps probation guy and a waiter, and so many New York NYPD officers in my extended family, and the two top um my grandfather's brother, my both grandfather my grandfather and his brother came from Ireland, and my grandfather's brother had two sons that made it to the FBI, and they were deity of my family.
They they they were the ultimate, you know, American dream personified in my family.
They were revered in my family.
Still are, by the way.
One has passed away, and and I stay in touch with the other one.
Uh anyway, let's get to our phones.
Rick Meryland next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
Um, I heard your uh ad for pre-born, the pregnancy clinic, and I just want to commend you for the purchase of the two ultrasound machines.
I think my pleasure.
Um it's a great cause.
I try to put my money where my mouth is, and uh I was not bragging that I bought them.
I'm just telling people I believe in the cause.
Yeah.
Well, I was I just want to mention I was uh one of eight reps in the United States that uh actually kind of started that business in the United States for General Electric and uh worked with a lot of doctors, Stuart Campbell, John Queen, and Paul Warsoff and bunch you know, these guys came up with tables and charts to measure the um growth and the well-being of the fetus in the womb and so forth, and those uh those um uh uh charts are still used today.
So the ultrasound has come a long way and um it's how how soon do you see on a modern day ultrasound, 4D if I'm not mistaken, how soon do you see the formation of fingers and and toes and facial features and and hear a heartbeat?
Well, heartbeats one matter.
Uh usually um the uh uh as you know when the when the uh the egg and sperm meet there's a zygote, and then that becomes an embryo.
And by the way, that's when DNA uh is uh identifiable as a person, so we can talk about that too.
But usually about uh five weeks when the uh fetus is maybe two millimeters, you can actually see cardiac motion and a heartbeat.
And with the advancement of color ultrasound, um that can also be used to um to uh measure blood flow.
And how long till you can uh discern facial features, fingers and toes and stuff like that?
Yeah, fingers and toes is more like uh I'd say eleven, twelve weeks and so forth.
And then you can actually determine sex, I think nowadays by uh twelve to fourteen weeks.
So the pictures are amazingly clear versus what we worked with in the eighties, and as it develops, uh it just gets better and better.
There's a 3D technology.
Um again, I worked for GE and they um Jack Welch, you remember Jack Welch?
He uh I do very well.
He always he always used to tell us we had to be number one or number two in our businesses or neutron jack would eliminate us.
But um by the way, he wasn't kidding either.
I know Jack Welch.
I used to interview him.
Yeah.
He's a tough guy.
But uh GE finally is number one in ultrasound due to some acquisitions they made.
Um, but uh the the big thing, people could Google uh GE Volusan, which is very interesting technology that's 3D that I didn't have back when I worked in it.
Um but you know, bottom line is the advancements in OBGYN ultrasound have been really, really important to women's health care.
You talk about uh growth and well-being in a fetus, um real images that my niece is a uh OBGYN doctor, and we talk about it all the time.
Uh I wish I had more time.
I'm not cutting you short.
Please understand I'm just up on the uh clock here, but I appreciate you joining us.
Thanks for being with us.
Thank you.
Thank you for what you do.
Appreciate you letting me doing it.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
RFK Jr. is on tonight.
He's got 19 points polling against Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination.
This is a serious candidacy.
Uh set over the weekend, by the way, he believes his uncle, former president uh John F. Kennedy, uh, was in fact uh the CIA was in fact involved in his murder.
Uh the great one, Mark Levin tonight, Riley Gaines uh is speaking out strongly on how women in sports uh need to fight back.
John Solomon with breaking news tonight will get an analysis from Miranda Devine and Greg Jarrett and Tommy Larren.
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