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May 9, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Politicizing Tragedy - May 8th, Hour 3
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Thankfully, law enforcement sources now have identified the suspect in Saturday's deadly mall shooting in Allen, Texas.
Eight dead, several others injured.
Mauricio Garcia is the individual, 33 from Dallas, Texas, according to records obtained by Fox News Digital.
The suspect's age, address, vehicle matches the description of details that law enforcement had provided.
They've been on their game, and thankfully, you know, I mean, it's just a tragedy every time.
And then, of course, the predictable, oh, it's the guns, it's the guns, it's the guns debate happens.
Trey Penny is with us, president of the National Fallen Officer Foundation, 22-year retired Dallas police sergeant.
He is now an official candidate for the U.S. House in Texas Congressional District 3.
He's going to win this district.
And that would include Allen, Texas.
And he's with us now.
Sir, first of all, our thoughts, our prayers, our sympathy for the people in your district, your community.
It's horrible.
Absolutely.
Thank you, Sean.
Look, I mean, I've lived up in District 3 for over 20 years.
And, you know, this is one of the safest districts that anyone could be a part of.
And it's unfortunate that we have to deal with something like this.
But this is a narrative that I've been talking about for the longest of time because of the impact of social media.
No community in this country is safe.
It doesn't matter where you are, where you live, doesn't matter what the demographics are.
The bottom line is as long as individuals are able to be influenced, there's always the potential for this type of behavior to occur.
And unfortunately, out of the 242 mass shootings in this country this year, Allen, Texas was part of it.
And we lost kids.
We lost young people.
This is sick.
This is sick, Sean, and we got to put an end to it.
It was a story about a mother of two who survived this mall shooting Saturday.
And she revealed she was saved by a store staffer at one of the outlets' many shops at the cost of this unnamed worker's life.
Mother of two survived the mall shooting, revealed that she was saved by this store staffer and by this unnamed worker's life.
Anyway, appearing for a video interview, the mom recalled how she began her impromptu shopping trip, pulls up to the mall.
At that point, Lee was in the midst of shopping, but soon grew panicked, and she and another shopper heard the shooter's initial hail of bullets.
And in the chaos as it ensued, the unnamed store associate gathered a frantic Lee and 12 others, including several children, and hid them inside the store's bathroom closet.
The worker then left the group, and then Lee, hours later, escorted out by the police.
On her way out, she realized that among the mass of bullets and bodies outside was the store worker that saved her life.
I mean, there are heroes in the midst of these tragedies.
It's unbelievable how brave people are.
Absolutely.
Those are the stories that you're going to hear in the coming days and coming weeks.
And I actually have a personal story related to this.
One of my friends, who just so happened to be a police officer in another city, called me at about 3.35 yesterday.
I mean, on the day of the shooting, and I was actually at the Galleria Mall, which is about 15 minutes away from where the actual shooting happened at in the Allen Mall.
And he called me and told me that his ex-wife and his daughter were bonkered down inside of a purple shop where the shooting was occurring.
And so what had happened was his ex-wife had got all these people together.
She was prior military.
She got all the people together and she barricaded them inside of a closet and they could hear the shooting.
He actually could hear the shooting while he was on the phone with his young daughter on the phone.
And the shooting was going on.
And all he could do was try to say, Sarge, can you get there?
Go help my family.
Go help my family.
And I'm shooting across town trying to get there.
And it was just chaos, Sean.
It was chaos.
Nobody could get in.
Nobody could get out.
We didn't know what was what.
And that's the tragedy of these type of crises is that you have regular, everyday people that are dealing with this, and they have to figure out how to cope.
You know, I was actually going to try to get, I would love for him to come on and tell that story, but that family is still traumatized by that situation, Sean.
And these are the things that the American people are dealing with unnecessarily because we don't know who these individuals are that are being radicalized that are coming after us.
They're coming after our family.
And if we don't find a way to mitigate these outcomes, we're all going to be.
We already know ways to protect schools.
I said it a million times.
You surround the perimeter.
You have metal detectors.
You have armed, retired police and military inside.
And every kid goes through a metal detector.
Guess what?
And every door is locked.
You can't get in or out unless there's an emergency.
And then you have some contingency plan of something.
And the same thing would go for a mall.
The same thing would go for any area.
And by the way, if we have to walk through a metal detector to get in a mall, so be it.
We can protect people.
Well, these are outdoor malls.
So this is actually, so when you drive up, like the store, like the open, when you park, you can walk right into the store.
So it's not like an actual traditional mall setting like the Galleria was, where you actually go inside of a building and everything is inside.
This was like, I mean, it's like very, there are very limited ways to mitigate someone wanting to, you know, come and just shoot people in the public.
And the bottom line is, and I've always said that we need to have an armed society.
We need to have people that are willing to be armed, that are willing to respond whenever these type of things happen.
The average shooting response time is six to eight minutes.
Thank God that this officer was able to respond within a matter of four minutes.
I think that's the report that I'm receiving.
But the bottom line is when these incidents happen, we got to have people that are armed and prepared to respond at the time of the situation so that law enforcement, when they come, they can go ahead and sedue the suspect if they can.
But look, we got to encourage our citizens to become a part of the solution and not a part of the problem.
Social media is a big issue that we have to be concerned about, Sean.
And unfortunately, we can't get politicians on board to figure out how we're going to mitigate certain content being pushed out to the American people.
Well, that's why we are supporting your candidacy.
You're going to be running in the 2024 election in District 3, and that does represent this area.
And Sergeant Trey Penny, we love having you.
Thanks for the update.
Again, our prayers to your community and our thoughts are with everybody that has suffered there.
All right, thanks a lot, Sean.
Appreciate it.
800-941, Sean, our number, you want to be a part of the program.
Randy in Nebraska.
Randy, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Well, good afternoon, Sean.
This is a huge honor for me.
Well, the honor is all mine.
What's going on?
Well, I'm a lifelong Democrat.
Just listened to you for 20 years.
Right.
I consider myself a Joe Manchin Democrat.
And, you know, we're out there.
There are still conservative Democrats.
There's not a lot of you, to put it that way.
There may be more than you think.
But that being said, though, I've never voted for a Republican for president.
And I've been voting a long time.
I don't miss an election.
I mean, look what they did to Joe Manchin.
Look at how they made specific promises.
He had specific provisions he wrote into the bill, specific energy promises and other promises and spending promises, and they reneged on every single solitary one.
And so he came on my TV show.
You may or may not know.
He was on a couple of weeks ago.
And he's disgusted.
And by the way, he should be disgusted.
Well, he's done more for West Virginians.
And I must say this, he's done more for West Virginians than any Republican could do.
Okay, so why do you find yourself in alignment with people that have now adopted this climate alarmist religious cult that goes to the heart of destroying the economy of West Virginia?
Well, I have been pushed to the brink.
It's not just the climate, it's the border chaos.
Let me push you over the brink and tell you that you're voting for a party that does not represent the interests of the people of West Virginia.
That I can tell you.
Well, I'm not from West Virginia, but I'm just saying he's kind of my idol right now, as Joe Manchin.
I would like to see the Republicans reach out to us and the Democrat Party.
You know, I'm for energy independence.
Okay, you're for border security, energy independence.
I think you want fiscal responsibility.
Is that a good guess?
Yes, but I have been a believer in some socialized medicine.
I do.
Okay, where is socialized medicine work so well that you think that we can do it here?
Like Obamacare promised you keep your doctor, keep your plan, and the average family would save $2,500 a year.
I think it's been successful in Canada and the Scandinavian countries.
Then why do Canadians and people in Scandinavian countries fly to America when they need immediate care for serious issues like cancer and heart attacks?
Those are the ultra-rich that don't want to wait, and I get that.
Okay, so the people on the government plan have to wait.
I don't have to wait.
If I need heart surgery, I don't have to wait.
I'm with you.
It's just, and I think it was Ron Paul that said years ago, the problem with our medical system is insurance.
Let me just point out, it's not just me.
If anybody listening to my voice right now, God forbid, was having a heart attack, you pull up to any hospital right now, they will take care of you immediately.
There's not going to be any questions about your insurance card payment at that moment.
You will be taken care of and stabilized first, maybe even operated on first, and that will be dealt with later.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
So socialized medicine is not what it's cracked up to be.
I'll give you the numbers.
Millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans, and we have fully 40% of the American people now have one Obamacare exchange option, and the average increase is about 250% in terms of premiums for far less coverage than people were used to.
Unfortunately, though, some people, because they have to spend two nights in an emergency room, shouldn't lose everything they've worked for all their life.
Agreed.
You know, listen, that's why I've been a big advocate of these health care cooperatives like Dr. Josh Umber in Wichita, Kansas.
$50 a month, unlimited care.
And then you usually leave with the medicines at a 90% discount, whatever prescription you need, you'll leave with that medicine at, again, a 90% discount.
Kids are $10 a month, as many visits as you need, and they can handle most things.
And even some cancer drugs that you're even able to provide at a 90% discount.
All right, quick break.
Randy, stay right there.
We'll get right back to you on the other side as we continue.
800-941, Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, as we continue, 800-941, Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program, we continue with a call of Randy is with us.
There are other ways to look at this, more entrepreneurial.
I think telemedicine should be the future as well.
You know, for example, when I was a kid or my kids were younger and they get the croup, you know, I didn't end up going to the hospital at two in the morning and I'm there at eight o'clock in the morning and I'm holding this steamer up against my kid that is useless instead of just getting the prednisone or whatever shot it is that lowers the inflammation in their throat.
If we can get away from medical for just a second, I would like to see us go back to energy independence.
And that's one thing I will give President Trump a lot of credit for.
If you would have told me in the 70s, 80s, or 90s that we were ever going to be energy independent, I would have said, you're out of your mind.
So why would you ever vote for a Democrat again based on everything we've talked about?
Ask me, I mean, but don't call me a communist.
I admit it I believe I asked you a question and you said, don't call me a communist.
Why would you ever vote for a Democrat again based on what you're telling me?
I am pro-choice.
I abhor abortions, but I am pro-choice.
Okay, abortion is legal in almost every state.
If you want an abortion, you can have an abortion.
The six-week ban, though, is a bad thing.
Okay, so you prefer it not to be six weeks, but you know what?
I could live with 12 weeks.
Okay.
First trimester, 12 weeks.
15 weeks was the Dobbs decision in Mississippi.
Okay.
So you can get an abortion in America.
You can get it in almost every state up until the period of time you want it to be legal.
You're hurting the poor with these laws.
A rich kid, a rich 16-year-old girl, she could live in Oklahoma and her parents can take her somewhere to get an abortion.
It's poor that are hurt by these bans.
You could just jump over to any one of the nearby states and get the abortion at a later date if you want.
That's a car ride or a bus ride away.
Okay.
Well, if you have the money.
Well, I mean, you got to pay for the abortion, right?
Now, as a Republican, if you're going to try to say, Randy, come on board, I'm sick of the trans agenda.
I believe they have a place at the table.
I just don't want them driving the bus.
I don't care what adults do.
Leave the kids alone and stop indoctrinating them, especially because you failed so miserably at teaching them the fundamentals and the basics.
But I agree with you.
Okay, then you go vote for Joe Biden for a second term and see what happens to the world in the country.
Good luck with that.
That's why I'm calling you, Sean.
But reach out to us.
We're there.
Reach out to us.
Okay.
Not every good Democrat's a dead Democrat.
Reach out to us.
We're here.
My hand is stretched out as far as it can be.
I'm trying to pull you over.
You know what I miss, Sean?
I miss you.
I've listened to you for over 20 years.
I missed when you used to say, you're a great American.
You're a great American.
Now come over to the other side and help save the country because things are not looking good right now.
It's not looking good economically at home.
It's not looking good at our borders.
It's not looking good with energy.
It's not looking good with China on the move.
It's not looking good every time Joe opens his mouth.
It's getting a little scary.
Anyway, I am glad you're listening.
And I think by the time we get to November 2024, you'll be fed up with all of this.
And I think that you will be fully, completely henotized.
Just stay with me.
We just need you till November 2024, okay?
I've enjoyed it, Sean.
Appreciate it.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Linda, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is now polling against Biden at 19%.
Did you ever expect that would happen?
I mean, it makes me very happy.
Yeah.
Well, you like his position on vaccinations, et cetera.
I do.
I actually just like the fact that he's willing to just kind of stand out and be his own person.
You know, there's a lot of things he says.
Oh, he gets the crap kicked out of him.
As a matter of fact, he doesn't care.
I love it.
He did an interview.
I think it was with PBS.
No, is it PBS or ABC?
I forget.
And anyway, so he made comments.
Now, again, this is his opinion.
He's running for president.
You don't have to agree with him, but people have different views.
And he gave his opinion about vaccines.
He's been an anti-vax for a long, long time.
And I know people that are convinced that they will sit there with the religious fervency and try to tell me that vaccinations for kids is related to autism.
And they believe it.
I don't know.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm not going to play one on the radio, but that's what they believe.
They'll make strong arguments on their side.
They talk about the mercury that's inside the vaccination, et cetera, et cetera.
And I know this is something you're way into more than I am.
And he'll be on Hannity tonight.
So that's why I'm playing this.
He believes the CIA was responsible for his uncle, former President John F. Kennedy, and his assassination.
This is what he said.
Who do you think really killed your uncle?
Well, I think there's overwhelming evidence that the CIA was involved in this murder.
I think it's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point.
In terms of my uncle's death, the evidence is overwhelming that the CIA was involved in the murder and the covering.
I mean, I can't wait to ask him about that tonight.
I mean, that kind of came out of nowhere.
And, you know, it was interesting.
Do you remember there was a point during the Trump years where he was going to release all the information associated with the JFK assassination and then decided against it?
I never got an answer why, but I am curious as hell as to why.
You're going to ask him tonight?
Yeah, of course I'll ask him tonight.
Cool.
I think you're going to have a very interesting conversation with him.
We can try and give him some time.
No, he's not a typical Democrat, for sure.
Definitely not.
I don't even dislike him.
I mean, we have to.
How long would you dislike him?
No, I mean, now, what's interesting is, can he get above a 19% threshold?
In other words, if 68% of the country do not want Biden to run, I mean, and that's Democrats.
So does he have a shot?
He may.
I'm sure he has a shot, for sure.
Will that then invite others like Gavin Newsom into the race?
That's an interesting question, too.
All right, let's get to our phones here: 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Joel in the free state of Florida.
Hey, Joel, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hi, Sean.
Thank you for taking my call.
Sean, as I told Katie, I don't quite share your faith in what we call the 90% people of the rank and file in the FBI for two reasons.
If you listen, number one, all the congressional investigations are not going to change the FBI.
It's going to take the rank and file en masse.
And we're not getting that just to stand up.
You know, we'll get a whistleblower or two, but we're not getting them.
Another one that I find more.
Well, Jim Jordan is saying we're going to get dozens of whistleblowers, so we'll see.
Okay, okay.
But what I do find frightening, and nobody has brought this up, is for years and years, the FBI has been recruiting heavily on our nation's college campuses.
That in itself needs to be looked at because who do you think is setting the recruiting standards?
Was Strzok, Comey, and now Christopher Wright.
And that concerns me, and I don't see anybody even considering that.
Also, the documents that hopefully will be turned out that show complacency with Hunter Biden and his father bribery, I don't think will ever show the light of day because if the FBI and the Department of Justice release these, they'll have to answer questions about why they've been keeping them.
And they're not going to admit complacency with this.
And that was what would come about.
I believe these documents, you know, we've got the zombie cases in New York.
These documents are going to be the Dracula or the vampire cases of because I don't think they'll ever see the light of day, Sean.
You know, look, we're going to find out a little bit more.
I'm not sure what Comerg has exactly.
My suspicion is they've got information that is going to show that the Biden family syndicate knew darn well that they were doing business, including Joe, with foreign countries, violating, you know, not only tax laws, but I think it's going to run a lot deeper than that.
I don't want to jump the gun on it.
And we'll wait and hear what Comer has to say on Wednesday.
As far as the rank and file of the FBI, here's my problem with using the broad brush that you're using.
The trouble that I see at what should be and once was the world's premier law enforcement agency, it seems to all be coming from the top.
Those that have played the political game, they've risen through the ranks, they've gotten to the top positions of power, and they seem to have a political agenda.
That is where, you know, everything starts at the top.
And I believe that unless they clean this, they're able to clean out all politics from the FBI and return it to be again the world's premier organization, a law enforcement organization, then they might just have to scrap it and start over.
Well, because you can't have a politicized FBI, but I'm not going to condemn the 90% of FBI agents that get up and go to work every day, risking their lives, you know, going up against cartels and murderers and gangs and kidnappers and bank robbers and all these other people and risking their lives for us.
I refuse to do that.
Well, I can see that and I agree with you, but I'm just saying it should be looked into.
I'm concerned that some of the people are, in fact, not the 90% people that we want to deal with.
That's exactly what Jim Jordan's committee is tasked with.
They're at the Judiciary Committee.
That is what they are looking into, whether your FBI is politicized and whether the DOJ has been weaponized.
We're going to know the answers at some point.
I think there now are too many whistleblowers out there.
I've interviewed a couple of them, and they are telling me that this is not the FBI that they signed up for, that they've noticed a discernible change in the last seven years.
That's what they're all telling me.
They're all saying the same thing.
And when retirement age comes, they can't get out of there fast enough.
That's what they're telling me.
It could be, and like I say, it frightens me that maybe, just maybe, that some of the people they're recruiting are just not the people that have the value.
Well, look at the guy that was in his.
I'm not condemned on a broad brush.
Not all of them.
Listen, look at the guy that was chosen to head up the effort to talk to big tech companies in the lead up to 2020.
He was relatively, had to be a relatively new agent because he had written a thesis on how Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election.
That was his thesis.
And then he's the guy that they chose to lead the effort in the months leading up to the 2020 presidential election to meet weekly with big tech companies and warn them that, in fact, they may be victims of a misinformation campaign.
And that misinformation campaign included issues involving Joe and Hunter Biden.
Now, the FBI had Hunter's laptop in December of 2019.
John Solomon swears that they authenticated it in the spring of 2020, and they knew that Rudy Giuliani had a copy of it, and it would likely leak.
So for Yoel Roth to testify in that Missouri case, he's the former integrity site head at Twitter, that in fact they mentioned Hunter Biden as possibly being the misinformation target.
All they were doing was preparing big tech for a censor campaign, which is what we ended up getting.
That was not the right person to pick for that job.
As a matter of fact, if somebody has that strong a political bias, they shouldn't have been hired by the FBI.
You know, just like if you do drugs, if you had associated with really bad people, you're not going to be hired, or at least in the past, you wouldn't be hired by the FBI.
Anyway, appreciate what you had to say.
I respect so much.
I've said this many times.
There was so much law enforcement in my family with my own mom, a prison guard, my dad, a family corporation guy, and a waiter, and so many New York NYPD officers in my extended family, and the two top, my grandfather's brothers, both my grandfather and his brother came from Ireland, and my grandfather's brother had two sons that made it to the FBI, and they were deity in my family.
They were the ultimate American dream personified in my family.
They were revered in my family.
Still are, by the way.
One has passed away, and I stay in touch with the other one.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
Rick Marilyn, next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hi, Sean.
I heard your ad for Pre-Born, the pregnancy clinic, and I just want to commend you for the purchase of the two ultrasound machines.
My pleasure.
So, you know, it's a great cause.
I try to put my money where my mouth is, and I was not bragging that I bought them.
I'm just telling people I believe in the cause.
Yeah.
Well, I just want to mention I was one of eight reps in the United States that actually kind of started that business in the United States for General Electric and worked with a lot of doctors, Stuart Campbell, John Queen, and Paul Warsaw, and a bunch of, you know, these guys came up with tables and charts to measure the growth and the well-being of the fetus in the womb and so forth.
And those charts are still used today.
So ultrasound has come a long way.
How soon do you see on a modern-day ultrasound, 4D, if I'm not mistaken, how soon do you see the formation of fingers and toes and facial features and hear a heartbeat?
Well, heartbeat's one matter.
Usually the, as you know, when the egg and sperm meet, there's a zygote, and then that becomes an embryo.
And by the way, that's when DNA is identifiable as a person.
So we can talk about that too.
But usually about five weeks when the fetus is maybe two millimeters, you can actually see cardiac motion and a heartbeat.
And with the advancement of color, ultrasound, that can also be used to measure blood flow.
And how long until you can discern facial features, fingers and toes and stuff like that?
Yeah, fingers and toes is more like, I'd say 11, 12 weeks and so forth.
And then you can actually determine sex, I think, nowadays by 12 to 14 weeks.
So the pictures are amazingly clear versus what we worked with in the 80s.
And as it developed, it just gets better and better.
There's a 3D technology.
Again, I work for GE, and they, Jack Welch, remember Jack Welch?
I do very well.
He always used to tell us we had to be number one or number two in our businesses or Neutron Jack would eliminate us.
By the way, he wasn't kidding either.
I know Jack Welch.
I used to interview him.
Yeah.
He's a tough guy.
Guy.
Yep.
But GE finally is number one in ultrasound due to some acquisitions they made.
But the big thing, people could Google GE Voluson, which is very interesting technology that's 3D that I didn't have back when I worked in it.
But, you know, bottom line is the advancements in OBGYN and ultrasound have been really, really important to women's healthcare.
You talk about growth and well-being in the fetus.
My niece is a OBGYN doctor, and we talk about it all the time.
I wish I had more time.
I'm not cutting you short.
Please understand I'm just up on the clock here, but I appreciate you joining us.
Thanks for being with us.
Thank you.
Thank you for what you do.
I appreciate you letting me doing it.
That's going to wrap things up for today.
RFK Jr.
is on tonight.
He's got 19 points polling against Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination.
This is a serious candidacy set over the weekend, by the way.
He believes his uncle, former president John F. Kennedy, was in fact, the CIA was in fact involved in his murder.
The great one, Mark Levin, tonight, Riley Gaines, is speaking out strongly on how women in sports need to fight back.
John Solomon with Breaking News tonight will get an analysis from Miranda Devine and Greg Jarrett and Tommy Laren.
Nine Eastern, set you DVR.
Hannity, Fox News, see you tonight.
Back here tomorrow.
Thank you for making this show possible.
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