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Senator Tuberville - May 2nd, Hour 3
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Anyway, so Janet Yellen earlier mentioned that June first is the drop dead date.
That's less than a month from now.
Today's May 2nd.
Uh, that they have that we have to solve or resolve the issue of the debt ceiling.
In other words, that's the date America begins to default on its borrowed money.
So they need to raise the debt ceiling.
All right, to give you a little history.
We talked about it some with Matt Gates.
Uh, if you go back, uh, from the very beginning, your president Joe decided that he would not talk to Congress.
He would not talk to Kevin McCarthy.
He said there will be no debate, no discussion, no negotiation.
And by the way, they echoed those same sentiments even today.
And, you know, we're what, 30 days out now of hitting that June 1st date.
So anyway, at maybe back 90 days ago or so, they finally did meet.
They have a meeting for May 9th.
It'll it'll almost be day 100 since McCarthy was invited to the White House to talk about the debt ceiling with Joe Biden.
Although listening to Colleen Jean-Pierre earlier today, uh they have no intention of of negotiating at all.
I guess the White House kind of forgot the fact that we have co-equal branches of government and that the power of the purse lies with Congress, not with the executive branch.
Uh, but they're saying that they're not going to go along with it.
Now, to Kevin McCarthy's credit, he was trying very, very hard the last you know 90 whatever days or so to get a meeting with President Joe Biden.
Biden said, no negotiation, no negotiation, my way or the highway.
So they did a really smart thing.
I think they passed what is a fiscally responsible bill that saves four point eight trillion dollars in ten years.
Uh it caps uh the rate of growth for government and government programs, in other words, the baseline budgeting number to only one percent increase every single year.
Uh it also impacts some uh energy uh bills that Republicans have been trying to get passed, and that it has to do with the economy.
It's the lifeblood of the world's economy, and some border issues are involved as well.
Now, so Joe Biden will meet with McCarthy, already stating yet again that he's not gonna negotiate.
And McCarthy, remember, he has a very, very small majority in the House.
He's got he I don't think it he will be able to get any changes moving forward.
Now, if in fact the full faith and credit of the U.S. government is hanging in the balance, the only way that's gonna be stopped is if Joe Biden signs that bill.
Because I don't think Kevin McCarthy's gonna get two hundred and eighteen members of the two hundred and twenty-two members of his caucus uh to make any of the changes here.
They already passed their bill.
They sent it over to the Senate.
Uh my understanding is the Senate is basically gonna hand it over to the White House.
They're not gonna vote on it.
Uh, and they will then in other words, they won't have their own bill voted on in the U.S. Senate, and that means that it will be between the president and Kevin McCarthy.
But I don't think Kevin McCarthy's gonna be authorized by his caucus to give up anything.
Now the question is why didn't Joe do his job and negotiate in good faith?
We have him on tape from 2011 saying it can't be my way or the highway.
I think that was the year they came up in 2011 with the sequestration bill.
So now Joe Biden has painted himself into a corner.
They will claim that Republicans are the ones responsible for any default, but in fact it's been Joe Biden.
Joe Biden would not negotiate.
Kevin McCarthy had no choice.
And it's a very reasonable bill.
He's willing to raise the debt ceiling, but he's insisting on some fiscally responsible measures as well, because we can't keep Robin from our kids and grandkids, which is exactly what we're doing.
Anyway, uh Senator Tommy Tuberville is with us from Alabama.
Uh, sir, how are you?
I'm doing great, Sean.
How are you?
What's going on?
All right.
So my understanding is that the Senate is going to prevent a vote on any bill.
Republicans will stay united.
Uh, so they're not going to get to the magic number of sixty.
And uh therefore the bill that the House Republicans passed will be sent to the White House and it'll be a negotiation between Kevin McCarthy and and Joe Biden.
Do you agree with that?
That's exactly Sean.
It's gonna come down with the negotiations next week and leadership from uh the House will go over McConnell, he'll go over and be involved in this.
But as he said, this is the House bill, and he just wants to sit there and listen to it.
I don't know who they're gonna have there from the administration side because Joe Biden's not capable of carrying on a conversation to get this thing done.
And Janet Yellen is the worst Secretary of Treasury we've ever had, so I don't know who they're gonna have there that's capable of of making a uh uh a good deal for for everybody.
Uh, hope they can.
But we're a hundred percent behind the house, the Senate is, and and we're anxious to see what happens.
Uh I I was a little bit surprised they were able to to get all the votes that they got, but they did.
They worked it out.
Kevin McCartney did a good job.
So uh maybe they can go to the White House next week and uh they can get somebody from uh the left to make some good decisions because the American people need a break with all this spending.
Well, they need a break and we need to stop.
It's immoral what we are doing.
We are robbing future generations of so much money and we're burdening them with all this debt that they they uh it's gonna get to a point of no return if we don't if we don't stop the bleeding.
That's the first thing we gotta do.
So in exchange for raising the debt ceiling so we don't default as a country.
Uh we know to that China would love to see the US dollar be replaced as the world's uh currency.
Uh and uh so we've got a lot of obstacles here.
But if I'm Kevin McCarthy, I'd say I don't have the votes to change this bill.
This is it.
Sign it or you default.
You're the one that has been missing in action for a hundred days, not me.
Exactly.
The Democrats have been screaming and yelling about whether the Republicans are gonna uh walk out on the America's paying their debts, and we're not gonna do that.
Uh and you saw what happened.
The House got it done.
Now the ball is in Joe Biden's court and Janet Yellen and all the left.
They've been screaming and yelling.
So it's time to step up and make a deal, work with it.
But is you're exactly right, Sean.
I don't know how much leeway that Ted McCarthy's got.
He probably has some in some point, but uh this is not for the House.
This is not Republican or Democrat.
This is for America.
As you said, my God, since I've been here, Sean in two years, we've spent six trillion dollars more than we should have spent.
Six trillion.
It is embarrassing what we've done.
And you know, I would like to send everybody in the country a bill for what they owe, which is every taxpayer owes two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for what the Democrats have done to them up here.
And obviously, they're not gonna be able to pay that debt, but they need to really understand where we're at.
I mean, we we are so far in debt we can't see straight.
And we've got to make some tough decisions, and we can't keep putting it off because as you said, our kids and grandkids are and really us.
Uh it it's to the point now where we're even seeing things that are gonna happen to this country in our lifetime that is gonna be devastating to the American people.
I was glad to see that you took a position on the issue of Title IX.
Now that's women in sports and especially collegiate sports.
I mean, you know, uh there's always uh Alabama is always at the top of the ranking list.
Uh Nick Saban is probably one of the best coaches ever in the history of college football.
Um, and of course, then you also have your war eagle fans down there too.
I don't know if don't want to forget Auburn.
Um, but you have taken the position that in fact uh which I think is important that you oppose biological males competing in women's sports.
And how are you gonna be able to protect that?
I mean, you got your star coaching a girls' basketball team as I understand it, and by the way, most people call you coach and not senator.
I'd rather be called coach because calling you a senator is frankly insulting.
It really is, and by the way, Nick Saban's listening, he knows I'm the only coach that's got a winning record over him in his lifetime, and so he'll go to the grave knowing it no doubt.
Oh man, you know, you're taking a shot at one of the greatest college coaches in the history of of college football.
That's ow, ouch.
Well we go way back and good friends.
We play a lot of golf together.
But you're exactly right, Sean.
This is embarrassing this this Title IX destruction.
Joe Biden's taking a sledgehammer to Title I'm the activists, the women activists, instead of standing up for the women and and and girls in sports, they're taking the side of 0.03% of the people in this country was called themselves transgenders and transgender boys.
And for them to say that they want to compete against girls number one is embarrassing.
And then listen I I I'm not against transgender or anybody.
You can be what you want to be that's what this country gives you.
It gives you that opportunity to think who you are, believe who you are, all that, but to be able to compare yourself physically to go against a girl if you're a biological boy is insane.
And we can't allow it to happen, but it just goes to show you how far the left has come.
You've got Democrats up here that I know do not believe in it, but they know they won't get campaign money if they don't go along with it because the far left progressive phrases will not allow them to get campaign money.
It is just it's it's lunacy and it's moronic and if we don't get this changed we're going to ruin well we're not going to Joe Biden, his administration Democrats are going to ruin girls and women's sports because why would you get into it knowing that sooner or later you're going to have to compete against a biological boy and you're going to be playing for second or third.
It's it's crazy.
I guess if they want to have a separate trans category they could do that but you know that's that's going to be up to the schools to decide but the idea that biological men Caitlin Jenner's been on the show and she agrees with me also and she agrees agrees with you too.
Let me ask you about one other issue that has come up.
You are on the uh health education, labor and and pensions committee I think you're on the ranking member's Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and uh now you're demanding answers from the from California regarding President Biden's nominee to be the secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor and about her previous obstruction of immigration officials basically I interpreted it to be helping aiding and
abetting law breaking in a letter that you sent uh you said as part of the committee's vetting process for presidentially appointed nominees it has now come to our attention that in July of twenty seventeen the president's nominee uh California State Labor Commissioner the one that's up for this job Julie Sue issued a memorandum to her staff which allegedly instructed them to refuse entry to U.S. Immigration customs and
enforcement ICE agents who visited state labor offices and in response to her questions on the record and specifically your questions requesting the production of memorandum she stated that she does not have access to this reported memo and does not recall the precise contents do you believe that no I don't believe it because it's in the record and she knows that and she was the California labor commissioner and
first of all she lost thirty billion dollars to fraud.
Now thirty billion I didn't say me and thirty billion to fraud and uh why would you think that's a lot of money what's thirty billion here and there you know it's not much.
Yeah.
Yeah in DC it's really no lot not a whole lot of money but you're right and then she turned around and said you know we we've uh we don't need to be going along with ICE and anybody that's coming and looking for for illegals we need to make sure that uh if they come in our office don't work with them.
Uh she sent that memo out to not work with law enforcement across this country and and that right there to me just disqualifies her to being on any cabinet seat.
Quick break more with Alabama Senator uh Tommy Toberville or coach Toberville on the other side as we continue and now a word from the 46th president of the United States.
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All right, we continue now with uh coach and Senator Tommy Tuberville is with us from Alabama.
So let me ask you, I tend to agree with you.
Do you think you get enough members of the committee uh to go along with you, or are you gonna lose that battle because the Democrats have the majority?
For example, is Joe Manchin or Kristen Simmons cinema on the committee?
No, no, they're not on the committee, and and uh it's already passed through the uh So it's over.
It'll go to the floor now.
No.
Uh I don't know whether Joe Manchin or Cinema.
I'm I hear that there's four or five Democrats that are kind of balking at at voting for, but uh, you know, they voted last time uh when she was a assistant uh secretary of labor.
So we'll see what happens when it comes to that point, but it's just it shows you uh day in and day out what's happened up here, Sean.
That they they just vote for people that they put up there.
They don't look at qualifications.
You know, the since I've been to Republicans, we've turned down some people that I thought were pretty good that were Republican leaning, but they just didn't fit the mold, and that's the way you do it.
But uh Democrats, they just vote strictly party line, they take care of each other, and it's gonna put this country under if we don't get them out of the majority.
Yeah, let me ask you a question.
Last question.
I have less than a minute.
Uh so how do you deal with the divide, the football divide in in your state of Alabama between Auburn and Alabama?
How do you thread that needle as a politician?
Well, that was you know, when I decided to run for this job, uh my wife said uh, you know, you did beat uh Alabama seven out of ten times in your tenure at Auburn.
If you run, how are you gonna get the Alabama vote?
And I said five five coaches, and if it wasn't for me, they wouldn't have Nick Saban because uh, you know, he took the job after got her got the rest of them run off.
So uh I got more Alabama votes than I did Auburn vote.
So I'm I'm uh pretty well set when it comes to working with both sides.
Yeah.
Anyway, I know you'd rather be called coach, uh, but coach uh Senator uh Tommy Touberville from Alabama, thank you so for your time.
We appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
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All right, let's get to our phones.
A lot of you have been very, very, very patient today.
Uh Patty is in Michigan.
Patty, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Thank you for calling in.
We're glad you're with us.
Thank you.
I was listening to you talk to Lawrence Jones yesterday.
Yeah.
About the number of addicts living on the street.
LJ we call him.
Yep.
He's my buddy.
LJ.
LJ.
But he was talking you guys were talking about again, specifically the number of addicts on the street.
And I myself am in recovery from alcoholism.
Um I've been sober for thirteen years.
But my alcoholism led to some um very terrible things.
I was in an accident, caused an accident that caused a man to die, and I spent seven years in prison.
Oh my gosh.
Lucky enough to come home and I was supported enough to go back to school.
I became a drug and alcohol counselor, um, and I now work in the service field um for the Salvation Army, I get to spend my days helping people.
I'm I've done TED Talks on addiction and written books and I speak in in to the community all the time.
I'm the lucky one.
Well let me ask you a question.
Now you went through all of that.
You've been clean and sober now for thirteen years, you spent seven years in prison.
Um does it stay with you uh look, we always hear about uh hitting rock bottom.
Obviously that was rock bottom for you.
Does that stay with you?
Do you do you forget or do you always remember?
Does that even help in in your remaining sober?
Um yes and no.
Okay.
All the awfulness of the whole thing and knowing the devastation I caused my family, another family, definitely stays with you.
I wish I could say you live totally you get over the shame and guilt, but I don't think you totally do.
In my case, um it gave me a new purpose though, and the purpose was to go do something good with a horrible situation.
You know, I could tell you right now, I guarantee you that there are addicts listening to this show right now.
And I would like to appeal to them.
Don't let this learn learn from Patty in Michigan.
Don't don't let something like what she's describing happen to you.
Don't make that your rock bottom.
There's help everywhere if you want it.
And I urge people, even if it's alcoholics uh anonymous or or narcotics anonymous, whatever these groups are, they're available.
There are other people that you can reach out to, people that did achieve sobriety uh when they never thought they could, and they they've maintained their sobriety.
And I really do hope that uh people will learn from you without having to have something that dramatic happen in their lives to cause them to finally wake up.
Look, if one person can get off of alcohol, and uh and there are millions of them that will uh millions of people that were alcoholics that no longer are.
If there are millions of people that can get off even hard drugs like heroin and meth and crack and these other drugs that are out there, uh opioids, people addicted to oxycontin, percocette, uh all these pain pills, Vicadin.
You know, if if one person or you know, all these people can get off it, that means you can get off it and talk to the people that have been there, they can give you the most help.
And I'm kind of speaking through you, Patty, because I know that there are people, you know, that are trapped in this vicious cycle of addiction, and it never ends well.
It's a matter of how low you're gonna go and what finally wakes you up.
That's what you're describing.
But it also takes a ton of humility, I think, and courage.
Um, luckily I've been doing this for a few years where I've spoken on it, that I have that now to talk about the horrific things that happened to me and to other people because of me.
But when you were talking to Lawrence Jones and we were and talking about these encampments of people with addictions out on the streets and these encampments growing all over our country.
I thought, you know, if we if people don't realize that this is a disease, and if we leave them out on those streets, what they will do is just continue to use.
What happens then is their fees progresses.
What we end up giving them is a death sentence.
If we don't do something beyond give them tense, beyond give them paraphernalia, beyond make it legal for them to use to make it easy.
If we don't do something to pull them off the streets, get them sober sober, get a give them back their self-respect, their dignity, learn to live without shame and guilt.
Make them productive.
If we don't do that whole picture, and we're just going to continue to have millions and millions of people die from addiction.
I'll tell you what I'm actually going to do.
I know a couple of people in the throes of addiction.
And when I run into people that I know and they're struggling this way, I'm usually pretty hard on them.
And not in a mean way, but in a tough love type of way.
And my message is very clear.
You better get your act together, seek the help.
I'll even offer to provide help to them.
But they have to be willing to do it themselves.
You cannot do it for people.
And um while you're, you know, your story on the one hand is tragic, it's also you know, you tryumph in the end and it changed your life.
You can't go back and bring back the life of this person involved in this accident, and that will stay with you for the rest of your life, but you have now clearly dedicated your life uh to making amends and and dedicating your life to helping other people uh to help prevent them from experiencing anything similar.
And the one other point that I was thinking a lot about is I and you know, in the recovery community, we talk about jails, institution, and death, but that's where addiction lead.
So, you know, today it's all the soft on crime and don't put people in jail and all that kind of stuff.
Quite often for addicts, that is life-saving.
It gets them off their substance for a period of time, their head cleared, they have uh ability to make choices again that they couldn't make before.
Jails and prisons sometimes are the answer, or going to a medical facility where you're told this is do-or-die time if you don't get off your substance.
It often takes being forced and and the um fear um to motivate people into getting healthy.
You know, th there's also other help available.
My understanding is that if you're addicted to narcotics, they have pills you can take that if you ever use any of these drugs, you will become deathly ill.
The same with alcoholics.
Uh, you can take a pill and I think they have you know short-term use, long-term use, and that pill will make you deathly ill, and then you're not going to be able to drink or be able to do do those drugs.
Is that true?
That's not exactly right.
There is a a drug called an abuse that is for alcohol.
Right.
And a person has to take it daily, and it will make them deathly ill.
They'll vomit all day long if they drink when taking an abuse.
Most people will anyways.
But the thing is with that, a person has to take that pill daily.
Well, and my my understanding is they now have longer uh doses, uh doses that'll last, I believe, up to a month.
That's what I've read.
So they also have drugs called naltrexone or you can pr prussat, um, other drugs for alcohol and for some of the other illicit drugs out there or non-illlicit drugs.
Um, but these are drugs, those drugs mostly take away the cravings.
They help with that.
They in no way are an end-all answer for an addict.
It may be a little helping stepping stone, and and maybe the one that they need, maybe uh uh um once maybe people go, you know, five, six months without a drink, and they realize uh I don't really need this, I'm happy without it, I'm a better person without it.
Uh I don't my personality doesn't change.
Well I you know why I don't want to go back there.
You know, most it's not a single person.
I learned a lot being a bartender.
And I by the way, I think this is a worthwhile discussion, which is why I'm staying with this, because so many people do struggle with addiction.
And I learned so much about alcoholism that I could write a book on it, and so much about drug addiction, I can write a book on it.
Um and I will tell you, I I the way I explain it is this every single individual has a number.
And a number is how many drinks they can have until their personality will will alter, will change.
In the case of women, they tend to become more flirtatious.
In the case of men, they usually become more aggressive.
Um and and you just can see it.
I would see right in front of my eyes, I'd know darn well that this person has passed their number and they're in trouble.
Sometimes I'd even stop serving them.
And then it was interesting.
I learned as a bartender that there would be people who come up to me and say, Hey, um, if I asked for a vodka and tonic, just make it a tonic and just don't tell anybody.
They're like hiding that they're they don't want to drink.
Or just the opposite.
People would come up for to me and say, uh, when I come up with my husband to order a drink, I'm gonna say, can I have a tonic?
Can you put vodka in it?
And I mean, it's just uh I learned so much about it, and then people that just start, they don't stop.
I would start my my bartending shift behind the bar at six, six o'clock at night.
I'd last call was four a.m. in the morning, and there'd be people sitting in the same seat that drank the whole night.
And I was shocked by the level of consumption that they would have.
Uh, and I'd make sure they got a cab to go home.
I didn't want anyone killing themselves or someone else on the way home, but I mean, and they could sit there, and you didn't even know that they were wasted.
But that was to them, just they were kind of maintaining their whatever level of alcohol they needed in their system on any given day.
So I learned a lot about it, and you know, while while my tolerance is high, I'm I'm a two, three drink guy max on any occasion.
That is the max.
I just stop.
And you are talking about people building up tolerance, which is comes and it progresses, more and more tolerance with with taking in um the substance.
So you're exactly right in that the first step is to get somebody away from that substance.
They need a period of time for their head to clear, for their physical body to clear, for their brain to send new messages, um, for to be able to So do you recommend these people go away for six months, go to Betty Ford or if they can afford it or a place like that?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, truthfully, a 30-day rehab is wonderful in that it's a start and it gives somebody an opportunity, but it still takes a tremendous but many, many people fail with that short of time.
The longer the period of time somebody has to get sober, they get it out of their system, then they can regain, start regaining a life.
They can start regaining some self-respect, some dignity, maybe rebuilding relationships with their family, uh, maybe getting a job.
All those things that make them back into a normal person that functions in society.
And it's then, it's then that long-term sobriety starts.
Well, they also have to get to the underlying causes too.
I mean, everybody has some emotional baggage that they're carrying around with them.
They have some anger, frustration buried deep down inside, and any good therapist, in my opinion, is going to get to the root cause of of why it is they need to self-medicate, because that's what they're doing.
And I think that uh that that takes a longer period of time to get to the bottom bottom of it all.
You know, I believe there should be a spiritual component to this as well, and that needs to be that uh you find fulfillment in a and a belief system that you want to be the best you possible, the better person uh that God made you to be, and and not allow any obstacle to get in the way from finding your true destiny.
I believe God created every man, woman, and child on this planet, and I believe God gave every person uh talent.
The word education is from the Latin educore to bring forth from within.
Well, that's predicated it on the belief that it's already in there, you just got to bring it out of people.
And I think unfortunately, people get stuck, and addiction is one area where people get stuck, and I think the earlier the people recognize it, deal with it, get rid of it, the the greater their their life is gonna be.
But that's my opinion.
Patty, uh it's been very instructive.
I gave you a lot of time because I think this is an important discussion.
I guarantee you someone someone out there listening today is is gonna get help because of what you just said.
Thanks so much, Sean.
I appreciate it.
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All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Uh Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News Channel, set you D VR, Peter Ducy in a showdown with Corinne Jean-Pierre.
uh, we'll show you that.
We have breaking news with John Solomon tonight.
Uh, our own Griff Jenkins is down at the border uh dealing with uh the problem that Joe and Kamala don't seem to want to acknowledge.
Uh, of course, five innocent people killed by an illegal immigrant that won't even acknowledge that the shooter was illegal.
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