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May 1, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Anti-Police Rhetoric Hurts - May 1st, Hour 3
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All right, news roundup and information overload hour 800 941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
So my good friend, my colleague Lawrence Jones has his hit show on the weekend.
It's called uh it's called Lawrence Jones Cross Country.
And anyway, it's doing really, really well on the Fox News Channel.
He's gonna be filling in the this week at 8 p.m. on the channel leading into my show at nine o'clock.
Uh but anyway, so this weekend he had an incredible shootout with the Democratic Portland mayor, uh Ted Wheeler, uh, Lawrence Jones Cross Country aired this thing, and I'm watching this and I'm like blown away by this because this is exactly what defund, dismantle, no bail laws, you know, have done to cities and towns all across the country.
And one place where they have really gone way overboard is in Portland, Oregon.
And as a result, anyway, Lawrence Lawrence, I call him LJ, pressed the Democratic mayor of Portland, uh Ted Wheeler on his track record for safety and homelessness and drug use and what is a very strong uh anti-con uh police sentiment in the city.
And anyway, he started with a montage of Portland residents voicing their concerns over all the increasing crime and homelessness and the inaction by Wheeler, and uh anyway, this is how it all went down.
I spent most of my time with the people, and I was invited into your your city, and I've been there for the last four years talking with residents there.
They say they're unsafe.
They say tents are surrounding their houses, they say the squatters are are taking over the city.
They say, and I see it with my own eyes that people are shooting up with drugs, and they say it's because of policies that that you support.
And the police commander that I talked with yesterday say that you in fact did defund the police and made it an anti-cop sentiment under the guise of racial justice.
So it's not something that I am saying.
This these are your residents.
Well, look, um uh I I've heard enough from Fox News to know that in fact your network does take a very dim view towards the city of Portland, towards me and towards others.
But that's beside the point.
All right, joining us now, my friend, my colleague from Lawrence Jones Cross Country, LJ is with us.
LJ, what's going on?
Great great exchange.
Thanks, and I appreciate it, brother.
Uh you know, look, uh I've been traveling around the country for about five to six years now, covering the hopelessness and the clock.
By the way, what before he became the big story is today, he would travel uh travel around the country for my show, but now he's got his own show, so he's too busy to travel for Hannity anymore.
You know, Sean, you kicked this all off, brother.
This this all is is because of you.
You you so you so you're you're ducking and dodging and weaving out of that question because what's that?
You know, you say if you do it for two years, you're gonna have your own show, and you know, I didn't believe you, but it happened.
So the the time has gotten a little crazy.
Well, anyway, we're very proud of you.
We're happy for your success.
Um I know you're gonna be throwing to me all week, which is great.
Uh look forward to seeing it.
But let's do let's dig down deep here.
This conversation was real.
Talk about it.
Well, Sean, look, I I've been talking with American people in all of these cities.
Portland, Seattle, Philly, Chicago.
Um I've been talking with the people for a while, and I always invite the leaders of these places to come on.
Uh I commend the mayor for coming on.
There's no one who's covered these crises uh across the country more than I have.
So he came in and uh of course it wasn't gonna be a layup interview, and look, it was it was about what his people were saying.
They feel hopeless.
The cops have been defunded.
She said that he really didn't defund the police, although when you look at the county, it shows a different story.
The commander that I talked to on the ground right before that interview say they have been demoralized.
They don't have any support.
So again, they they have this experience, and we allow them to just backtrack and act like it never happened.
And I just wanted the mayor to own his mistakes, and unfortunately he was unable to do this.
So what's his uh excuse for all of this?
Well, he doesn't feel like that he defunded the police, even though they took money away.
Um he doesn't feel like that there is lack policies uh doing drugs.
He feels like he's helping the people.
You know, Sean, i i isn't this bill that they pass.
They promised to get the people that have mental health issues, drug addiction, after they decriminalize the drugs, they were gonna give them help.
They decriminalized it and then gave the people no help.
So now you got all these people that are on the streets, they're just shooting up drugs.
And I I don't I don't know, Sean, that doesn't seem like compassion to me.
It is not compassion, it's a disservice to law abiding uh citizens in Portland.
Look, I always say the same thing.
I said if you want to have the ability to pursue happiness, law and order, safety and security, that is a prerequisite towards getting that goal.
And if you're not safe and you're not secure in your own town, your own city, then uh guess what?
You're not really free to do much of anything.
You have to be careful with every step you take.
It's so true, Sean.
And look, I think we're at a boiling point, but we're also at a pivot point as well.
If Americans don't have safety, they don't have liberty, as you correctly stated.
And so what we're seeing now is an opening of mind when it comes to voters.
Those people that I spoke to in Portland, they're progressive, they're liberal, but they believe that this experiment has failed.
And it's time that we stop allowing politicians to get away with it.
And it's not just the liberals, it's the Republicans that want to be fickle and all that because they're a part of this new modern day movement.
I think the voters deserve strong safety.
They deserve their kids deserve a quality education, and they should be able to walk their streets without thinking that they're gonna get mugged or having to step over a needle.
It's insane.
So this week that's what we're gonna be doing, Sean.
We're gonna be holding both parties accountable and making sure they it's very simple.
Give people the fundamental things that they want.
Clean water, they want to be safe, they want to be uh have their kids have a quality education, they want the borders closed and secure.
And if people want to come to this great country, they can go in line and make we can reform all that.
All that stuff is good.
But if you can't give the American people the necessity, the basic things that our constitution has guaranteed to them, they're not gonna hear you on any other issue.
You know, it's interesting.
You did a couple of trips uh for us.
You took a couple of trips uh for the show, and we sent you out to San Francisco, and and the scene there is obscene.
And that is you got people defecating in the street, urinating in the street, shooting up in the street, and what was fascinating about that story that you did not once but twice, is one mile on the other side of where this open air drug den is taking place, and all these people are are defecating and a lot of homeless people, a lot of crime associated with it is Nancy Pelosi's multimillion dollar mansion.
One mile to the other side is her very expensive office where you know I guess constituents if if she ever goes there can be with her.
And the reality is uh I've always said that liberals are only generous with other people's money.
In this particular case, here you have Nancy Pelosi living next to millionaire after millionaire after millionaire.
You know, what has prevented her from going around the neighborhood and saying, hey, we're gonna donate a million bucks, we're gonna build a homeless shelter, uh, we're gonna offer drug counseling and uh and a hot meal and a place for people to shower.
Uh will you help us in this effort?
I'm pretty confident that she'd be able to raise probably tens of millions of dollars.
Well, well, Sean, the the deal is she's rarely there.
She's rarely in her district, so she hasn't doesn't have to deal with the consequences of those policies.
Well, she's there enough.
I mean, she's got that expensive ice cream freezer in her house.
During the pandemic, she spent And that's where she went to get her hair done in the middle of COVID when nobody else was able to get it their hair done.
It's so true.
But Sean, let me talk about that too, because San Francisco does they don't have a money problem.
They have a incentivizing crime problem.
Look, I I've spoke to the homeless population, the drug addicted that's on on the street there.
Uh I asked them, why won't you go into the treatment facility?
They they they they offer it to you.
Um and they make it very clear.
When they go to those treatment uh facilities, there's rules.
They can't bring all their crap there, they gotta stay off the drugs, um, they gotta be there at a certain time because of the.
Um imagine that you're going to get h help for drug addiction, and one of the main rules is you have to stay off drugs.
What a shocker.
That's exactly right.
And and they prefer to stay on the street because guess what?
They'll give them the material to build the tent, they'll give them three m uh meals a day, they can check at the tent down the street where they give them free cell phones.
So and they'll also give them the the paraphernalia to shoot up the drug in the safe injection sites.
So what what incentive is there to get off the street?
There's absolutely How about the incentive to live again?
Because you're slowly committing suicide.
Yeah, they're not being educated about this, uh they're not they're they're being given everything they need it, need to fail by the city and all the other organizations that are out there that won't let them hit rock bottom so these people can get some help.
They say what they're doing is compassion.
I don't know if killing people uh uh is compassion when you know they have mental health issues and they're addicted to drugs.
I I I just refuse to believe that's compassion.
On the issue of addiction, there there are medicines now that people can take, and I think they last monthly.
Like, for example, if you're an alcoholic or a drug addict, and you can take these medicines, and if any point during that month you were to drink or do drugs, you would get so violently ill that it would prevent you from doing it again.
I mean, th so that that is a you know, maybe it's a little drastic, but it's uh an alternative that I think should be made more available to people.
I mean, if you can just get that monthly pill, go to a doctor, take the pill, then for that month, you're going to be alcohol or drug free.
Sean, are you under the impression that these activists, the people that are on the street, these politicians are unaware of this drug?
They know exactly uh what this drug can do.
So they'd rather the what have Narcan when these people are dying because of a drug overdose or a fentanyl overdose?
They pass it out.
Look, sir, and I interviewed one kid, he's uh he was fifteen years old, he's been on the street since he was thirteen years old.
Um, and uh when I before I interviewed him, he had just overdosed.
He told me that was his fourth time um overdose.
And I asked him, where did he get the narcissant?
What did his friend get the narcissant from?
The city passes it out.
This is their alternative.
Getting these people off the street, they shouldn't be allowed to do that.
It's either you get the necessary help or or or you go behind bars.
It shouldn't be an alternative to stay on the street.
Unfortunately, in these cities, uh they don't provide that law and order.
And so as a result, the people don't hit rock bottom and and they remain on the street.
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All right, we continue now with Lawrence Jones, my friend, my colleague from the Fox News Channel, uh Lawrence Jones Cross Country, a big hit on the weekends.
I want to bring private conversations that you and I have had.
Uh, how old were you when you you started a Fox?
Um I was twenty-two.
Oh my gosh.
And you just hit thirty, you're an old man.
Yeah, I'm getting very old, son.
You're getting very old.
What a ride it's been.
So what happened when we would first send LJ out to do uh Man on the Street or send them to San Francisco or send them all around the country.
By the way, all of that led to Lawrence Jones cross country.
I mean, there's a reason we call that show cross country because you travel everywhere.
Um but one of the more fascinating things is you know, so you did this, you did such a phenomenal job that they now give you your own show, um, which is amazing.
But what were the things that we talked about?
Because your family background is very similar to mine.
Yeah, you know, very low, kind of lower middle class, I say is the way to describe it.
And your mom's a preacher, your dad's a truck driver.
Uh I had the honor of meeting them not that long ago, and I love them.
They were awesome.
And I can see what how you became the man you've become.
Um and I warned you about the dangers of uh being famous and being in the public eye, and you know, to your credit, I mean, I think you really listen to me.
Am I wrong on that?
I I try to listen.
Look, um, some people What do you mean I try to listen?
That's not an answer.
I try.
Um He gives the same old speech over and over and over, and and me and his son, Pat.
We we we joke about it all the time.
LJ's friends with my son, and they like compare notes.
Did you ever get my dad's speech on this?
Yeah.
How about I I heard your father say this speech.
Did he ever give that speech to you?
Yeah, and they comp they make fun of me the whole time.
You know, Sean has actually been like a second father to me.
And uh, you know, my parents, they don't know this industry, they don't know the traps of it, they know how to be good parents.
And they've brought me as far as they could bring me.
My my mom had me at sixteen.
Uh got pregnant at sixteen, my dad married her.
They just celebrated thirty years of marriage, and uh, you know, my mom's a preacher, my dad's a truck driver.
And so I'm wanted to honestly have a mentor uh conversation with me.
It was look, stay humble.
Remember your mom, the medicine, remember your dad the truck driver and watch out for the girls, and you know, don't call women inappropriate names or you know, uh get married, don't have any children.
You know, things that um and actually we talk about this in my book that's gonna be coming out in September about manhood.
Oh man, you're mentioning me in your book.
That's not fair.
I mean, it's important though, but we're not teaching ideas.
Well, here's what I saw, and I'm gonna be really quick here because we're on the clock, but I saw uh that you had way more natural talent than I feel I ever had.
And uh to your credit, um, honestly, you've just kept your head down and worked really hard, and that's why you've been so successful in your show on the weekends, uh Lawrence Jones Cross Country is phenomenal.
I know you're doing the eight o'clock leading into my show all week.
I can't wait to uh have the handoff.
Uh I'm waiting for you to call me an old man again, and I've got a I've got a good response when you do.
You know, that may or may not be included in the top.
Lawrence Jones LJ, uh, don't miss it.
On the weekends, Fox News, uh Lawrence Jones Cross Country, my friend.
Great job with the mayor of Portland.
Very proud of you.
I'll see you tonight.
All right, see you tonight.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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Uh and by the way, you know what's happening, Linda.
People are like flying in just to visit New York, and and part of their itinerary is to come to see the show, which makes me really happy.
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So, you know.
That's a nice way to put it.
We're in the You're welcome, right?
Right right there in the Broadway Broadway district.
I think that you should do your shows virtual, and we should have audience shows all across the country.
Uh it yeah, I'm not sure if we can pull that off.
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Linda actually showed up for the first time with Mr. Romeo Wonderful and uh Romeo and I came.
We sat in the front row and we had an awesome time.
I will say You didn't catch the football when I threw it to you.
I'm sure that was an accident.
I'm sure.
Absolutely.
Total accident.
Fortunately, Anthony.
It's a nerf ball.
Is a wonderful football player, so he caught many of them.
The funny thing is, is they're like sitting there in the front row holding hands, and I'm like, can you please move your hand over, sir?
He's the only bright spot in my day, other than the kids.
I mean, it's a disgusting world we live in.
But your show's amazing, and people are out of their minds in your audience.
They have absolutely zero filter, and they think that when they're when you're talking on set, they think you're talking to them and they're just talking to you.
I'm like, he has a he has a guest.
You should I mean, I'm just thinking out.
It is a pretty raucous environment.
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Um I will say this about Vivek Ramaswamy, who's running for the Republican nomination.
I don't think he's gonna get it.
Nobody really has known who he is up to this point.
Uh one of the main reasons that Don Lemon got fired, the the straw that broke the com Camel's back in his case, is how he treated Vivek Ramaswamy uh during an interview on his you know failing morning show after his failing nighttime show.
And anyway, he just lit into Ramaswamy for speaking about minorities and saying, Well, you don't have no right to talk about this, something to that effect.
If you remember the debate that went back and forth.
Anyway, so he's on with Chucky Todd over the weekend and debating the issue of gender being binary.
But below the age of the age of eighteen, I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that we won't allow genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers.
But how do you know it's that?
Again, how do you know or are you confident that you know that gender uh is uh as binary as you're describing it?
Are you confident that it isn't a spectrum?
I am this as a scientist?
Well, there's there's two X chromosomes.
If you're a woman, an X and a Y, that means a lot of research out there.
There's a lot of scientific research out there that says gender is a spectrum.
Chuck, I respectfully disagree.
Gender dysphoria for most of our history, all the way through the DSM five has been characterized as a mental health disorder.
And I don't think it's compassionate to affirm that.
I think that's cruelty.
When a kid is crying out for help, what they're asking for is you gotta ask the question of what else is going wrong at home.
What else is going wrong at school?
Let's be compassionate and get to the heart of that rather than playing this game as though we're actually changing our medical understanding for the last year.
Anyway, so he's really made his mark in terms of you know being pretty courageous and going into enemy territory and debating these guys.
I do give him credit for that.
Uh one other thing that caught my attention was Elon Musk defining the woke mind as a virus as anything, you know, that's against the meritocracy vantage point.
And this is what you know, Bernie Sanders was saying.
Oh, when once you get a billion dollars, what you can't live with a billion dollars, that the government should then come in and confiscate it.
He actually said that he wants to confiscate wealth above a billion dollars.
Now, why would Hannity, why are you standing up for billionaires and millionaires?
I'm not.
What I'm standing up for is the investment money that then impacts all of us in a positive way.
Because if somebody has fifty billion dollars instead of one billion dollars, they're probably gonna buy more boats, more houses, more cars, go out to more restaurants, and and that keeps the economy flowing.
You know, I never got a job from a poor person.
But the idea that, you know, Bernie Sanders, and I'm sure this was he's he's really just the tip of the iceberg with this new Green Deal, you know, radical climate alarmist religious cult in taking on this point of view that that you have part of the population that does not have a billion dollars, and they're thinking, Great, we're gonna empower our government to take wealth that was accumulated through, you know, these are not not ill gotten gains.
People that work really hard, that created businesses, that took risks and happen to be successful, we're going to take their money and give it to other people.
Okay, what are those rich people going to do?
I have yet to to meet a self-made millionaire, and I have met a couple of billionaires in my life, uh, or billionaire that ever got anything really handed to them.
They may have they may have gotten a leg up or a hand up when they started.
Many did not.
Many had nothing.
And so all of a sudden we're going to empower our government after they paid their taxes on their money, uh, otherwise they would be in jail, right?
But and now we're gonna say what we're gonna confiscate it because there are poor people that want your money and will empower the government to take that money.
Anyway, uh talking about meritocracy here's Elon Musk.
And you have talked about this woke mind virus.
Yes.
In really apocalyptic terms.
I don't you shouldn't explain why you don't think it's hyperbole to say things like it's pushing civilization towards suicide.
First of all, what is the woke mind virus?
And if we don't deal with this, nothing else can get done.
Tell me why you think that.
Yeah, so I think we need to be very cautious about any anything that is anti-meritoc and anything that is that that results in the suppression of free speech.
You know, those are two of the aspects of the work mind virus that I think are very dangerous.
Uh is that it's it's often anti bureaucratic.
You can't you can't question things.
Uh even the questioning is bad.
You know, another way to almost synonymous would re would be cancel culture.
And obviously, people have tried to cancel you many times.
Many times.
Yeah.
I mean, every week.
Yeah.
From left and right.
I've had it from both sides.
All right, let's get to our busy uh telephones here.
Tom in the free state of Florida.
Tom, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Big fan, Sean.
I'm gonna move real quick because I got a lot to say.
Um agonizing over this for months now.
Do you believe that um as founded our country is over with, or do you believe that as founded our country will soon be over with, say, within the next ten to fourteen years?
You know, Reagan famously said freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
Um my honest answer is I I can't answer anything definitively.
My hope is the American people wake up.
Uh economically we are on the wrong road.
It will lead to nothing but more poverty, more dependency, and a loss of freedom.
Uh then I look at the world and what's happening and Joe Biden having abdicated his role on the world stage as the leader of the free world and the leader of the you know, the number one sole superpower, and I watch the territorial ambitions of of countries like China and Russia, uh, and I see them now building alliances that make me very, very nervous, very uncomfortable.
I call it a new axis of evil.
And yeah, do I worry about the future of America, whether we will, you know, remain the sole superpower in in the world?
I'm I'm very concerned about it.
You can't have a woke military and have the biggest, baddest, kick-ass strongest military.
Uh, you can't, you know, I I do believe if we're not careful that we are at risk of losing the US dollar as as the world's currency, which I think China through uh currency manipulation is now trying to make happen.
Uh I'm concerned that we have now abandon uh domestic energy production, which is great for national security, it creates high-paying career jobs in the energy sector.
Uh we could be energy dominant and an energy rich country if we would wake up and supply Western Europe with all of their energy needs, uh it would be good for them, it would be good for us.
So am I concerned?
Yeah, I'm very concerned.
You know, I mean, when uh somebody as smart as Mark Levin says we are living in a post constitutional America, I were, yeah.
Yeah, well, having said all that, can I give you a fast scenario?
Yes, sir.
For a minute that Trump and Biden get the nominations, which I is well within the realm of possibility.
Assume that because of what happened in twenty twenty and all the crap that went on.
Um Biden wins.
Okay.
Now we know that the map favors the Republicans in the Senate race.
But let's say that what happened in twenty twenty two happens again.
Females, uh white females, um educated uh suburban women go out and they vote because of uh Dobbs and the Senate grabs two more seats for the Democrats as opposed to being taken over by the Republicans.
And those those Democrats that come in are you know they're they're Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren communists.
Now they have enough votes to do the following.
Chuck Schumer, the first thing he does is he ends the filibuster.
And once he ends the filibuster, the second thing he does is he appoints four or six justices to the Supreme Court.
Does he need the House to do that?
I don't know.
If he doesn't, then they appoint four to six Supreme Court justices.
Now they've got the court.
From that point on, they make Washington a state, they make Puerto Rico a state, they grab four Senate seats, they grab five, six, seven house seats, and then the floodgates are open.
What they do is they naturalize every illegal in the country, and will never ever, ever win another election.
Then they then they do the big thing.
They say we're going after everybody's gun, because they went after the guns once, and the liberals on the court said the Constitution does not state that that people have the right to keep bare arms of self-defense, it's a malicious right.
And once they start trying to take guns away from people, I think it could be the very end.
But in even if it isn't, uh you know, the scenario is is bad, and it it's been bothering me for months.
What do you think?
Most of your list, I I didn't write down the couple of things I might have a slight disagreement on.
Uh most of the things you said I have said often.
But I'll add one other thing to that.
If Republicans expect to compete in 2024, they have got to change how they approach voting, how they approach elections.
You know, they're they're out there, they're running the old fashioned way.
They're kissing babies, they're taking selfies, they're shaking hands, they're doing press a veils, they they do town halls, they do rallies, all that sort of thing.
And Democrats, they're not involved in any of that.
Most Democrats now are hiding in their basement, trying to avoid any and all debates, number one.
Number two, uh, they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in very effective negative ads that work.
I know nobody everyone polled will say they don't like them, but the fact is we keep getting them because they do work.
And then the next thing they're doing is called ballot harvesting, and I'm talking about legal ballot harvesting, and Republicans are not engaged in that effort.
And unless the Republican Party immediately, I mean, we've got to get Ronald McDaniel and Ryan's Previs on this program to discuss this.
Unless they change all of this, they're not gonna have a shot at winning.
And unfortunately, you know, i i I w look, I'd prefer uh election day be a national holiday.
Everybody votes by paper, paper ballots.
Uh you have to have voter ID, you have to have signature verification, you have partisan observers watching the voting all day long in every precinct.
When the polls close, they watch the counting in every precinct, and they declare a winner, and this in war integrity in the system.
But that's not the system we have.
You gotta deal with the system yet.
You have presently, hopefully change it if you win elections.
But right now, you put you have to play in the arena, the deal with the hand that you're dealt, not the one you wish you were dealt.
So if they don't do those things, then you're right, the odds of us winning, it won't matter that our ideas are better.
You know, the other thing that you're not factoring in that we have to factor in is at some point the American people are gonna feel the pain and they're not gonna want to take it anymore, and they're gonna be willing and open-minded uh to look for conservatism to save the country yet again.
We have done that we have gone down this road before, never this bad, and conservatism actually works.
Um anyway, I appreciate your call.
We gotta save the country we love.
We've got to save our great constitution.
Uh we gotta have you know, control borders, law and order, energy independence, a tough military that's not woke.
Uh, you know, and then we need constitutionalists on the bench.
We know we need a lot of things.
But it's only gonna happen if Republicans get their act together.
If you have reluctance and resistance to voting earlier by mail, get rid of it.
I that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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