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So my good friend, my colleague, Lawrence Jones, has his hit show on the weekend.
It's called Lawrence Jones Cross Country.
And anyway, it's doing really, really well on the Fox News channel.
He's going to be filling in this week at 8 p.m. on the channel leading into my show at 9 o'clock.
But anyway, so this weekend he had an incredible shootout with the Democratic Portland mayor, Ted Wheeler.
Lawrence Jones Cross Country aired this thing.
And I'm watching this.
I'm like blown away by this because this is exactly what Defund, Dismantle, no bail laws, you know, have done to cities and towns all across the country.
And one place where they have really gone way overboard is in Portland, Oregon.
And as a result, anyway, Lawrence, I call him LJ, pressed the Democratic mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, on his track record for safety and homelessness and drug use and what is a very strong anti-cop police sentiment in the city.
And anyway, he started with a montage of Portland residents voicing their concerns over all the increasing crime and homelessness and the inaction by Wheeler.
And anyway, this is how it all went down.
I spent most of my time with the people and I was invited into your city and I've been there for the last four years talking with residents there.
They say they're unsafe.
They say tents are surrounding their houses.
They say that squatters are taking over the city.
They say, and I see it with my own eyes, that people are shooting up with drugs.
And they say it's because of policies that you support.
And the police commander that I talked with yesterday say that you in fact did defund the police and made an anti-cop sentiment under the guise of racial justice.
So it's not something that I am saying.
These are your residents.
Well, look, I've heard enough from Fox News to know that, in fact, your network does take a very dim view towards the city of Portland, towards me, and towards others.
But that's beside the point.
All right, joining us now, my friend, my colleague from Lawrence Jones Cross Country.
LJ is with us.
LJ, what's going on?
Great, great exchange.
Thanks, Sean.
I appreciate it, brother.
You know, look, I've been traveling around the country for about five to six years now, covering the hopelessness and the climate.
By the way, before he became the big star he is today, he would travel around the country for my show, but now he's got his own show, so he's too busy to travel for Hannity anymore.
You know, Sean, you kicked this all off, brother.
This all is because of you.
So you're ducking and dodging and weaving out of that question because what's that?
You know, you say if you do it for two years, you're going to have your own show.
And, you know, I didn't believe you, but it happened.
So the time has gotten a little crazy.
Well, anyway, we're very proud of you.
We're happy for your success.
I know you're going to be throwing to me all week, which is great.
I look forward to seeing it.
But let's dig down deep here.
This conversation was real.
Talk about it.
Well, Sean, look, I've been talking with American people in all of these cities, Portland, Seattle, Philly, Chicago.
I've been talking with the people for a while, and I always invite the leaders of these places to come on.
I commend the mayor for coming on.
There's no one that's covered these crises across the country more than I have.
So he came in, and of course, it wasn't going to be a layup interview.
And look, it was about what his people were saying.
They feel hopeless.
The cops have been defunded.
He says that he really didn't defund the police.
Although when you look at the county, it shows a different story.
The commanders I talked to on the ground right before that interview say they have been demoralized.
They don't have any support.
So, again, they have this experiment, and we allow them to just backtrack and act like it never happened.
And I just wanted the mayor to own his mistakes, and unfortunately, he was unable to do this.
So, what's his excuse for all of this?
Well, he doesn't feel like he defunded the police, even though they took money away.
He doesn't feel like that there is lack policies for doing drugs.
He feels like he's helping the people.
You know, Sean, in this bill that they passed, they promised to get the people that have mental health issues, drug addiction, after they decriminalize the drugs, if they were going to give them help.
They decriminalized it and then gave the people no help.
So now you've got all these people that are on the streets.
They're just shooting up drugs.
And I don't know, Sean, that doesn't seem like compassion to me.
It is not compassion.
It's a disservice to law-abiding citizens in Portland.
Look, I always say the same thing.
I said, if you want to have the ability to pursue happiness, law and order, safety and security, that is a prerequisite towards getting that goal.
And if you're not safe and you're not secure in your own town, your own city, then guess what?
You're not really free to do much of anything.
You have to be careful with every step you take.
It's so true, Sean.
And look, I think we're at a boiling point, but we're also at a pivot point as well.
If Americans don't have safety, they don't have liberty, as you correctly stated.
And so what we're seeing now is an opening of minds when it comes to voters.
Those people that I spoke to in Portland, they're progressive.
They're liberal.
But they believe that this experiment has failed.
And it's time that we stop allowing politicians to get away with it.
And it's not just the liberals.
It's the Republicans that want to be fickle and all that because they're a part of this new modern day movement.
I think the voters deserve strong safety.
Their kids deserve a quality education.
And they should be able to walk their streets without thinking that they're going to get mugged or having to step over a needle.
It's insane.
So this week, that's what we're going to be doing, Sean.
We're going to be holding both parties accountable and making sure it's very simple.
Give people the fundamental things that they want.
Clean water.
They want to be safe.
They want to have their kids have a quality education.
They want the borders closed and secure.
And if people want to come to this great country, they can go in line and we can reform all that.
All that stuff is good.
But if you can't give the American people the necessity, the basic things that our Constitution has guaranteed to them, they're not going to hear you on any other issue.
You know, it's interesting.
You did a couple of trips for us.
You took a couple of trips for the show.
And we sent you out to San Francisco.
And the scene there is obscene.
And that is you got people defecating in the street, urinating in the street, shooting up in the street.
And what was fascinating about that story that you did not once but twice is one mile on the other side of where this open air drug den is taking place and all these people are defecating and a lot of homeless people, a lot of crime associated with it, is Nancy Pelosi's multi-million dollar mansion.
One mile to the other side is her very expensive office where, you know, I guess constituents, if she ever goes there, can meet with her.
And the reality is I've always said that liberals are only generous with other people's money.
In this particular case, here you have Nancy Pelosi living next to millionaire after millionaire after millionaire.
You know, what has prevented her from going around the neighborhood and saying, hey, we're going to donate a million bucks.
We're going to build a homeless shelter.
We're going to offer drug counseling and a hot meal and a place for people to shower.
Will you help us in this effort?
I'm pretty confident that she'd be able to raise probably tens of millions of dollars.
Well, Sean, the deal is she's rarely there.
She's rarely in her district, so she doesn't have to deal with the consequences of those policies.
Well, she's there enough.
I mean, she's got that expensive ice cream freezer in her house.
During the pandemic, she spent and that's where she went to get her hair done in the middle of COVID when nobody else was able to get their hair done.
It's so true.
Let me talk about that too, because San Francisco, they don't have a money problem.
They have an incentivizing crime problem.
Look, I've spoken to the homeless population, the drug addictors that's on the street there.
I asked them, why would you go into the treatment facility?
They offer it to you, and they make it very clear.
When they go to those treatment facilities, there's rules.
They can't bring all their crap there.
They've got to stay off the drugs.
They've got to be there at a certain time.
Imagine that.
You're going to get help for drug addiction, and one of the main rules is you have to stay off drugs.
What a shocker.
That's exactly right.
And they prefer to stay on the street, because guess what?
They'll give them the material to build a tent.
They'll give them three meals a day.
They can check at the tent down the street where they give them free cell phones.
And they'll also give them the paraphernalia to shoot up the drug in the safe injection sites.
So what incentive is there to get off the street?
There's absolutely.
How about the incentive to live again?
Because you're slowly committing suicide.
Yeah, they're not being educated about this, son.
They're being given everything they need, need to fail by the city and all the other organizations that are out there that won't let them hit rock bottom so these people can get some help.
They say what they're doing is compassion.
I don't know if killing people is compassion when you know they have mental health issues and they're addicted to drugs.
I just refuse to believe that's compassionate.
On the issue of addiction, there are medicines now that people can take, and I think they last monthly.
Like, for example, if you're an alcoholic or a drug addict and you can take these medicines, and at any point during that month, you were to drink or do drugs, you would get so violently ill that it would prevent you from doing it again.
I mean, so that is a, you know, maybe it's a little drastic, but it's an alternative that I think should be made more available to people.
I mean, if you can just get that monthly pill, go to a doctor, take the pill, then for that month, you're going to be alcohol or drug-free.
Sean, are you under the impression that these activists, the people that are on the streets, these politicians are unaware of this drug?
They know exactly what this drug can do.
So they'd rather, what, have Narcan when these people are dying because of a drug overdose or a fentanyl overdose?
They pass it.
Look, son, I interviewed one kid.
He was 15 years old.
He's been on the street since he was 13 years old.
And before I interviewed him, he had just overdosed.
He told me that was his fourth time overdose.
And I asked him, where did he get the Narcan?
Where did his friend get the Narcan from?
The city passes it out.
This is their alternative.
Getting these people off the street.
They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
It's either you get the necessary help or you go behind bars.
It shouldn't be an alternative to stay on the street.
Unfortunately, in these cities, they don't provide that law and order.
And so as a result, the people don't hit rock bottom and they remain on the street.
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All right, we continue now with Lawrence Jones, my friend, my colleague from the Fox News channel, Lawrence Jones Cross-Country, big hit on the weekends.
I want to bring private conversations that you and I have had.
How old were you when you started at Fox?
I was 22.
Oh, my gosh.
And you just hit 30.
You're an old man.
Yeah, I'm getting very old, son.
You're getting very, very old.
Fox, 22.
What a ride it's been.
So what happened when we would first send LJ out to do Man on the Street or send him to San Francisco or send them all around the country?
By the way, all of that led to Lawrence Jones Cross Country.
I mean, there's a reason we call that show cross-country because you travel everywhere.
But one of the more fascinating things is, you know, so you did this.
You did such a phenomenal job that they now gave you your own show, which is amazing.
But what were the things that we talked about?
Because your family background is very similar to mine.
You know, very low, kind of lower middle class, I say, is the way to describe it.
And your mom's a preacher.
Your dad's a truck driver.
I had the honor of meeting them not that long ago, and I love them.
They were awesome.
And I can see how you became the man you've become.
And I warned you about the dangers of being famous and being in the public eye.
And, you know, to your credit, I mean, I think you really listened to me.
Am I wrong on that?
I try to listen.
Look, some people.
What do you mean, I try to listen?
That's not an answer.
I try.
I try.
He gives the same old speech over and over and over.
And me and his son, Pat, we joke about it all the time.
LJ is friends with my son, and they like compare notes.
Did you ever get my dad's speech on this?
Yeah.
How about I heard your father say this speech?
Did he ever give that speech to you?
Yeah, and they make fun of me the whole time.
You know, Sean has actually been like a second father to me.
And, you know, my parents, they don't know this industry.
They don't know the traps of it.
They know how to be good parents.
And they've brought me as far as they could bring me.
My mom had me at 16.
I got pregnant when I was 16.
My dad married her.
They just celebrated 30 years of marriage.
And, you know, my mom's a preacher.
My dad's a truck driver.
And so Sean wanted to honestly have a mentor conversation with me.
It was, look, stay humble.
Remember your mom, the minister, remember your dad, the truck driver.
And watch out for the girls.
And, you know, don't call women inappropriate names or, you know, get married, don't have any children.
You know, things that, and actually we talk about this in my book that's going to be coming out in September about manhood.
Oh, man, you're mentioning me in your book.
That's not fair.
I mean, it's important, though, but we're not teaching ourselves.
Well, here's what I saw, and I'm going to be really quick here because we're on the clock.
But I saw that you had way more natural talent than I feel I ever had.
And to your credit, honestly, you've just kept your head down and worked really hard.
And that's why you've been so successful.
And your show on the weekends, Lawrence Jones Cross Country, is phenomenal.
I know you're doing the 8 o'clock leading into my show all week.
I can't wait to have the handoff.
I'm waiting for you to call me an old man again.
And I've got a good response when you do.
You know, that may or may not be included in the talk.
Lawrence Jones, LJ, don't miss it on the weekends.
Fox News, Lawrence Jones Cross Country.
My friend, great job with the mayor of Portland.
Very proud of you.
I'll see you tonight.
All right.
See you tonight.
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People are like flying in just to visit New York and part of their itinerary is to come to see the show, which makes me really happy.
Well, it's really the only thing to do in this disgusting, Godforsaken, rat-ridden, trash-ridden, crackhead-filled city.
So, you know.
That's a nice way to put it.
We're in the right there in the Broadway district.
I think that you should do your shows virtual, and we should have audience shows all across the country.
Yeah, I'm not sure if we can pull that off.
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Linda actually showed up for the first time with Mr. Romeo.
Wonderful.
Romeo and I came.
We sat in the front row and we had an awesome time.
I will say.
You didn't catch the football when I threw it in.
You almost hit me like eight times.
Have you not met?
I'm sure that was an accident.
I'm sure.
Absolutely.
Fortunately.
Total accident.
Fortunately, Andy.
It's a nerf ball.
He's a wonderful football player.
So he caught many of the balls.
The funny thing is, is they're like sitting there in the front row holding hands.
And I'm like, could you please move your hand over, sir?
He's the only bright spot in my day other than the kids.
I mean, it's a disgusting world we live in.
But your show is amazing, and people are out of their minds in your audience.
They have absolutely zero filter, and they think that when you're talking on set, they think you're talking to them and they're just talking to you.
I'm like, he has a guest.
You should.
I mean, I'm just thinking out loud.
It is a pretty raucous environment.
I think the real show is the show in the audience in the frame camera.
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I will say this about Vivek Ramaswamy, who's running for the Republican nomination.
I don't think he's going to get it.
Nobody really has known who he is up to this point.
One of the main reasons that Don Lemon got fired, the straw that broke the camel's back in his case, is how he treated Vivek Ramaswamy during an interview on his failing morning show after his failing nighttime show.
And anyway, he just lit into Ramaswamy for speaking about minorities and saying, well, you have no right to talk about this, something to that effect.
You remember the debate that went back and forth.
Anyway, so he's on with Chuck Edd over the weekend and debating the issue of gender being binary.
But below the age of 18, I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that we won't allow genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers or transition.
But how do you know it's that?
Again, how do you know?
Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you're describing it?
Are you confident that it isn't a spectrum?
I am.
Well, there's two X chromosomes if you're a woman, an X and a Y.
That means there's a lot of scientific research out there.
There's a lot of scientific research out there that says gender is a spectrum.
Chuck, I respectfully disagree.
Gender dysphoria for most of our history, all the way through the DSM-5, has been characterized as a mental health disorder.
And I don't think it's compassionate to affirm that.
I think that's cruelty.
When a kid is crying out for help, what they're asking for is you got to ask the question of what else is going wrong at home.
What else is going wrong at school?
Let's be compassionate and get to the heart of that rather than playing this game as though we're actually changing our medical understanding for the last time.
It goes back to this.
Anyway, so he's really made his mark in terms of being pretty courageous and going into enemy territory and debating these guys.
I do give him credit for that.
One other thing that caught my attention was Elon Musk defining the woke mind as a virus as anything that's against the meritocracy of vantage point.
And this is what Bernie Sanders was saying.
Oh, once you get a billion dollars, what?
You can't live with a billion dollars.
The government should then come in and confiscate it.
He actually said that he wants to confiscate wealth above a billion dollars.
Now, Hannity, why are you standing up for billionaires and millionaires?
I'm not.
What I'm standing up for is the investment money that then impacts all of us in a positive way.
Because if somebody has $50 billion instead of $1 billion, they're probably going to buy more boats, more houses, more cars, go out to more restaurants, and that keeps the economy flowing.
You know, I never got a job from a poor person.
But the idea that Bernie Sanders, and I'm sure he's really just the tip of the iceberg with this new Green Deal, you know, radical climate alarmist religious cult in taking on this point of view that you have part of the population that does not have a billion dollars,
and they're thinking, great, we're going to empower our government to take wealth that was accumulated through, you know, these are not ill-gotten gains, people that worked really hard, that created businesses, that took risks and happened to be successful.
We're going to take their money and give it to other people.
Okay, what are those rich people going to do?
I have yet to meet a self-made millionaire, and I have met a couple of billionaires in my life, or billionaire that ever got anything really handed to them.
They may have gotten a leg up or a hand up when they started.
Many did not.
Many had nothing.
And so all of a sudden, we're going to empower our government after they paid their taxes on their money.
Otherwise, they would be in jail, right?
And now we're going to say, we're going to confiscate it because there are poor people that want your money and will empower the government to take that money.
Anyway, talking about meritocracy, here's Elon Musk.
And you have talked about this woke mind virus.
Yes.
In really apocalyptic terms.
You should explain why you don't think it's hyperbole to say things like it's pushing civilization towards suicide.
First of all, what is the woke mind virus?
And if we don't deal with this, nothing else can get done.
Tell me why you think that.
Yeah, so I think we need to be very cautious about anything that is anti-meritocratic and anything that results in the suppression of free speech.
You know, those are two aspects of the woke mind virus that I think are very dangerous, is that it's often anti-meritocratic.
You can't question things.
Even the questioning is bad.
You know, another way to almost synonymous would be cancel culture.
And obviously, people have tried to cancel you many times.
Many times.
Yeah.
I mean, every week.
Yeah.
From left and right.
I've had it from both sides.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Tom in the free state of Florida.
Tom, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Big fan, Sean.
I'm going to move real quick because I got a lot to say.
I've been agonizing over this for months now.
Do you believe that as founded, our country is over with?
Or do you believe that as founded, our country will soon be over with, say, within the next 10 to 14 years?
You know, Reagan famously said freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
My honest answer is I can't answer anything definitively.
My hope is the American people wake up.
Economically, we are on the wrong road.
It will lead to nothing but more poverty, more dependency, and a loss of freedom.
Then I look at the world and what's happening and Joe Biden having abdicated his role on the world stage as the leader of the free world and the leader of the number one sole superpower.
And I watch the territorial ambitions of countries like China and Russia, and I see them now building alliances that make me very, very nervous, very uncomfortable.
I call it a new axis of evil.
And yeah, do I worry about the future of America, whether we will remain the sole superpower in the world?
I'm very concerned about it.
You can't have a woke military and have the biggest, baddest, kick-ass, strongest military.
You can't, you know, I do believe if we're not careful that we are at risk of losing the U.S. dollar as the world's currency, which I think China, through currency manipulation, is now trying to make happen.
I'm concerned that we have now abandoned domestic energy production, which is great for national security.
It creates high-paying career jobs in the energy sector.
We could be energy dominant and an energy-rich country if we would wake up and supply Western Europe with all of their energy needs.
It would be good for them.
It would be good for us.
So am I concerned?
Yeah, I'm very concerned.
You know, I mean, when somebody as smart as Mark Levin says we are living in a post-constitutional America, I were, yeah.
Yeah, well, having said all that, can I give you a fast scenario?
Yes, sir.
Assume for a minute that Trump and Biden get the nominations, which is well within the realm of possibility.
Assume that because of what happened in 2020 and all the crap that went on, Biden wins.
Okay.
Now we know that the map favors the Republicans in the Senate races.
But let's say that what happened in 2022 happens again.
Females, white female, educated suburban women go out and they vote because of dobbs.
And the Senate grabs two more seats for the Democrats as opposed to being taken over by the Republicans.
And those Democrats that come in are, you know, they're Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren communists.
Now they have enough votes to do the following.
Chuck Schumer, the first thing he does is he ends the filibuster.
And once he ends the filibuster, the second thing he does is he appoints four or six justices to the Supreme Court.
Does he need the House to do that?
I don't know.
If he doesn't, then they appoint four to six Supreme Court justices.
Now they've got the court.
From that point on, they make Washington a state.
They make Puerto Rico a state.
They grab four Senate seats.
They grab five, six, seven House seats.
And then the floodgates are open.
What they do is they naturalize every illegal in the country and will never, ever, ever win another election.
Then they do the big thing.
They say, we're going after everybody's guns because they went after the guns once and the liberals on the court said the Constitution does not state that people have the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.
It's a militia's right.
And once they start trying to take guns away from people, I think it could be the very end.
But even if it isn't, you know, the scenario is bad, and it's been bothering me for months.
What do you think?
Most of your list, I didn't write down the couple of things I might have a slight disagreement on.
Most of the things you said, I have said often.
But I'll add one other thing to that.
If Republicans expect to compete in 2024, they have got to change how they approach voting, how they approach elections.
You know, they're out there.
They're running the old-fashioned way.
They're kissing babies.
They're taking selfies.
They're shaking hands.
They're doing press evales.
They do town halls.
They do rallies, all that sort of thing.
And Democrats, they're not involved in any of that.
Most Democrats now are hiding in their basement, trying to avoid any and all debates, number one.
Number two, they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in very effective negative ads that work.
I know everyone polled will say they don't like them, but the fact is we keep getting them because they do work.
And then the next thing they're doing is called ballot harvesting, and I'm talking about legal ballot harvesting, and Republicans are not engaged in that effort.
And unless the Republican Party immediately, I mean, we've got to get Ronna McDaniel and Ryan's Privus on this program to discuss this.
Unless they change all of this, they're not going to have a shot at winning.
And unfortunately, you know, look, I prefer Election Day be a national holiday.
Everybody votes by paper, paper ballots.
You have to have voter ID.
You have to have signature verification.
You have partisan observers watching the voting all day long in every precinct.
When the polls close, they watch the counting in every precinct, and they declare a winner, and this in war integrity in the system.
But that's not the system we have.
You've got to deal with the system you have presently.
Hopefully change it if you win elections.
But right now, you have to play in the arena.
Deal with the hand that you're dealt, not the one you wish you were dealt.
So if they don't do those things, then you're right.
The odds of us winning, it won't matter that our ideas are better.
You know, the other thing that you're not factoring in that we have to factor in is at some point, the American people are going to feel the pain and they're not going to want to take it anymore.
And they're going to be willing and open-minded to look for conservatism to save the country yet again.
We have gone down this road before, never this bad, and conservatism actually works.
Anyway, I appreciate your call.
We've got to save the country we love.
We've got to save our great Constitution.
We've got to have controlled borders, law and order, energy independence, a tough military that's not woke.
And then we need constitutionalists on the bench.
We need a lot of things.
But it's only going to happen if Republicans get their act together.
If you have reluctance and resistance to voting earlier by mail, get rid of it.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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