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I'm Greg Jarrett, filling in for Sean.
I'm a Fox News legal analyst.
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That famous trial helped form the legal bedrock on which our civil liberties depend today.
It was a battle over science, faith, free speech, academic freedom, and the power of ideas that nobody should be told how to think.
Legendary defense attorney Clarence Darrow's stunning takedown of William Jennings Bryan was the most amazing courtroom confrontation in Anglo-Saxon history, wrote the New York Times.
The surprising outcome of the trial foreshadowed today's bitter culture war.
So I hope you'll read the book, The Trial of the Century, available now online.
For those of you who have read my many columns about the Biden family corruption, it's encouraging that Congress is now finally, finally investigating the volumes of evidence that appear to implicate President Joe Biden in his son's lucrative influence peddling schemes,
selling access and promises of potential influence to countries like China, Russia, Ukraine, and other foreign nations.
Despite a laptop with reams of incriminating evidence, no charges have ever been filed in a federal investigation that is now in its fifth year.
Five years, no charges.
And that, of course, invites the inevitable question: is Joe Biden's Department of Justice protecting the president?
Well, it sure looks like it.
The FBI, after all, has had the laptop in its possession since December of 2019.
Whistleblowers at the Bureau say top officials at the agency buried that smoking gun evidence.
And we know from the Twitter files that the FBI pressured, if not directed, the social media giant to censor and suppress the laptop story.
For more, let's turn now to Peter Schweitzer, one of the best investigative journalists in the nation.
He is the best-selling author of several books, including Red-Handed, the most recent, Profiles in Corruption, Secret Empires, and Clinton Cash, my all-time favorite.
His popular website and podcast is The Drill Down.
Peter, great having you back with us.
There is a terrific column and podcast on your website, The Drill Down.
It's entitled, Did the Clintons Inspire the Bidens?
What's the answer to that question?
I think they did.
The answer is yes.
You know, Greg, you and I both know, having followed corruption and cronyism in Washington, D.C. for a long time, everybody in Washington loves a business model that can allow them to get rich through public service.
There are very few exceptions to that rule.
And I think in this particular case, what the Clintons did was they globalized corruption.
You know, we think about globalization with the economy, labor, all that kind of stuff.
Corruption got globalized too.
And it was really the Clintons, the first ones who said, you know, we're going to cash in not so much by going to, you know, Wall Street or big tech, although we'll do some of that.
We're going to cash in by going overseas to these corrupt political cultures, places like Russia and China, and we're going to peddle our wares there and sell access there.
That's what the Clintons did.
And I believe that the Bidens were inspired by that.
In fact, you see in the laptop when Hunter Biden is talking about setting up the Biden Center at the University of Delaware, he actually compares it to the Clinton Global Initiative, saying we can do with this what the Clintons did with the CGI.
Yeah, and in fact, you go through it in great detail in, as I mentioned, my favorite book, Clinton Cash, how the Clintons use their foundation, their global initiative, really as a personal piggy bank.
And in particular, the tens of millions of dollars from Russia that flowed into their foundation were really quite breathtaking.
You know, tell us a bit more about that.
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State the first term of the Obama administration, and that provided a real opportunity for the Clinton family to cash in.
I mean, they were doing pretty well after Bill left the presidency and Hillary was in the Senate.
But once she became Secretary of State, all these foreign entities wanted to curry favor with the chief diplomat.
And the perfect avenue was the so-called charity, the Clinton Foundation.
So they would make these charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation.
The Clinton Foundation, of course, subsidized the lifestyle of the Clintons.
It became sort of a dumping ground for their political operatives.
And Russia was one of the main players.
And it centered around really sensitive, important issues like uranium.
You and I discussed this on the air when this story first broke.
Uranium won, this uranium company that had roughly half of the uranium assets in the United States.
They also had some very, very deep and rich uranium mines in Kazakhstan.
Bill Clinton essentially got the Kazakh government to sell those uranium mines to a friend of his, a guy named Frank Justra, who then donated $100 million to the Clinton Foundation.
And then Justra turned around and sold those mines and the mines in the United States to the Russian state-owned uranium producer.
So they were essentially doing the bidding of the Russian government itself.
It's funny to me, Greg, when you look at the demonization of Vladimir Putin today.
And by the way, in my mind, he has always deserved it.
But, you know, back in 10 years ago, the Clintons were very much doing the bidding of Vladimir Putin.
It wasn't just the money from Uranium One.
They also took in a lot of Russian money because of something called Skokovo, which was a Hillary Clinton initiative as Secretary of State to create a Silicon Valley in Russia.
You know, what could go wrong?
And they cashed in there as well, and that enhanced the Russian military.
So Russia was for the Clintons sort of the golden calf, as it were.
For the Bidens, they looked at the other part of the world.
They looked at Asia and particularly China as the place to cash in the most.
Yeah.
So, you know, if I remember correctly, about $100 million in Russian money flows into the Clinton Foundation and their global initiative.
Well, at the same time, you know, Hillary and Bill are greasing the sale of America's uranium to Russia, their ownership of it.
I mean, good lord, it's to me, it's the definition of corruption.
Let me come back to something you said a moment ago.
The Bidens follow the business model of the Clintons.
In fact, I'll quote from your book, Red Handed: The Bidens, father, and son together apparently followed a business model offering access to the highest levels of power in Washington in exchange for big money, international deals.
End of quote.
And Peter, this is while the elder Biden was vice president of the United States, right?
Yeah, and that's the key ingredient here, Greg.
As you know, with the Clintons, Bill Clinton's speaking fees doubled or tripled overnight when his wife became Secretary of State in 2009.
It's not because he came more eloquent, it's because foreign entities wanted to pay them to get access.
It's the same thing with the Bidens.
Hunter Biden sets up an international finance firm called Rosemont in June of 2009.
This is, you know, what, five months after his father is sworn as vice president of the United States.
He had never done international business before.
He couldn't have gotten a meeting because his father was simply a senator.
But now that his father was vice president of the United States and Barack Obama gave Joe Biden the billet for policy towards China, policy towards Ukraine, now suddenly these foreign entities wanted access, they wanted favor, they wanted favorable treatment.
So what did they do?
They went to the son who had set up this international financial business and said, we're happy to do deals with you.
So Hunter Biden, who I don't think could have gotten really any meetings in China within a year of setting up his business, he's going to China and he's meeting with the equivalent of China's head of the Federal Reserve, the Treasury Secretary, J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, UBS.
He's meeting with 11 of the top finance executives in China.
Why?
Because he's got some great investment scheme?
Because he's got some great expertise?
No, because his father is now in charge of policy towards China.
And that's how it works.
And look, the Clintons and the Bidens absolutely know this.
They know how the game is played.
And one of the reasons that they run the money through a family member, in the case of the Clintons, when Hillary was Secretary of State, it went through her husband Bill.
In the case of the Bidens, it's run through the son or the brother, James Biden.
The reason they do that is it gives them some form of plausible deniability.
But when you look at actually what's going on, it's very clear what's going on.
It's not fooling really anybody.
Yeah, it's corrupt influence peddling, promises of access, as well as potential influential decision-making that would favor, for example, China.
You know, U.S. banks flagged a staggering 150 suspicious activity reports, SARS, as they're known, with a financial crimes unit at the Department of Treasury reflecting tens of millions of dollars paid in suspected illegal transactions, right?
So Joe Biden suddenly becomes President of the United States, and the Treasury Department under Biden will not do what they've always done, which is turn over those reports to Congress.
Instead, they have refused so far to turn them over.
What do you make of that?
Yeah, it's remarkable, Greg.
You know, what they're claiming is it would violate the banking secrecy laws.
But, of course, there are numerous times in the past when Congress has requested for access to these sorts of financial records and has gotten them from our federal government.
In this particular case, it's a cover-up, pure and simple.
And this is the sort of thing that leads to further and further legitimate concern and suspicion.
I think even by supporters of Joe Biden, I saw a poll that was done, I think, by Trafalgar just a couple of days ago showing that at least one-third of Democrats believe that Joe Biden has a massive conflict of interest when it comes to China because of his family's business dealings.
These are Democrats that probably are not listening to news outlets such as yours or Fox where they're actually being exposed to the detailed information we're discussing.
So it's very, very clear to me that this is a cover-up.
And I think that it's going to be interesting to see where Democrats who don't want Joe Biden running for re-election because they think he's too old or they don't think he can win, where they are going to line up because we are setting up, I think, for a battle royale for access to this information.
There's all kinds of things they can do to make sure that nothing personally secretive that would violate the banking rules would be not disclosed.
You can release the form.
You can redact all sorts of things.
They simply don't want the American people to know who and how much money the Biden family has received from China.
I've got about a minute left.
So let me ask you the ultimate question.
Is it a legitimate concern that Americans should be worried about that Joe Biden is compromised when it comes to China, that he has essentially jeopardized America's national security?
100%.
Just look at the discussions we have in Washington all the time about campaign contributions by big tech or big oil or by Wall Street.
Those are legitimate debates.
In this case, we're not talking about tens of millions of dollars going into campaigns.
We're talking about tens of millions of dollars going into the pockets of the first family of the United States.
So by any measure, any measure, it is absolutely a legitimate concern and one that I believe is the central issue that we're facing as a republic today.
Well, I hope the Judiciary Committee as well as the Oversight Committee in the House get to the bottom of it.
Peter Schweitzer, one of the best investigative journalists, best-selling author of several books.
His most recent, red-handed.
Check out his website and podcast, The Drill Down Peter.
Thanks for being with us.
Thanks, Greg, for having me.
We're going to take a quick break.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
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I wrote it with Don Yeager, terrific writer who dug deep into the history of the case.
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He's going to rejoin us in just a moment.
So be sure to stay tuned for that, our further discussion on the trial of the century.
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In a couple hours ago, I was talking to my co-author of my new book, Trial of the Century, which you can pre-order right now online at all the usual online websites, Amazon, Barnes ⁇ Noble.
It's about the Scopes Monkey Trial.
The trial of the century, in my judgment, because it set the bedrock principles for free speech, academic freedom, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas.
These are cherished principles upon which our civil liberties depend today.
We cherish these principles and the work of the greatest trial lawyer who ever lived, Clarence Darrow, we owe great gratitude and credit.
Certainly my hero in my lifetime.
And joining me once again to talk about it is my co-author, Don Yeager, New York Times best-selling author, longtime associate editor at Sports Illustrated, a popular public speaker.
And Don, thanks for sticking around for another half hour to talk about the trial of the century.
You know, one of the things that people get to read about in the book is the incredible tense courtroom scenes, which I mentioned earlier.
The New York Times described as the greatest courtroom confrontation in Anglo-Saxon history.
But you can also see the photographs of it because they were maintained, this is, you know, almost 100 years ago, in the archives in Tennessee at Bryan College, which is in Dayton, Tennessee, and, you know, just across from the courthouse somewhat.
You can see it from the top floor of the courthouse.
And I put together 40 photographs of the trial, gain permission.
And, you know, I go in there and I spent, I don't know, 10 or 12 hours.
You have to wear white cotton gloves to handle these old, fragile photographs.
And I used this huge high-resolution scanner to copy and download the incredible photographs.
And let's talk about what they show, because, Don, you know, it was a circus-like atmosphere at that trial outside the courthouse and throughout the town, complete with a trained chimpanzee named Joe Mendy, which was sort of a nod to the mistaken impression that man evolved from apes.
So talk about the circus at the trial of the century.
You know, Greg, one of the things that really stood out as we had the chance to experience the town and to walk through that courthouse was that, you know, at the time, the courtroom where that case was tried was actually the largest courtroom in all of Tennessee.
And yet it was filled to its complete capacity, standing room only.
People from around the country, journalists from around the world came to be part of this event.
It was, you know, ironically, the city of Dayton arranged this trial.
They actually sought out the teacher, John Scopes, to see if they could find someone who might have violated the recently passed law there in Tennessee because they wanted the opportunity to showcase their community.
And it turned into, it was, as for many, many years, it was quite an embarrassment, a black eye for the community.
But yes, I mean, one of the things that stood out to me was that it was the first trial ever broadcast live on radio.
Every minute of the trial, including all of the actions of the judge and the individual lawyers were broadcast on WGN.
First trial broadcast from beginning to end on an American radio network.
So in many ways, it was the court TV version of what you might have experienced in some of your work.
So yes, constantly it was seen all over as something that everyone in the country was paying attention to, front page of every newspaper.
You know, I covered the O.J. Simpson trial, which everybody compared to a circus.
Frankly, it paled in comparison to what unfolded in 1925 in Dayton, Tennessee.
But similar to Court TV, in which cameras, you know, were in the courtroom for the Simpson trial, there were cameras in 1925 in the courtroom in Dayton, Tennessee for the trial of the century, the name of our book.
And they would fly these newsreel footage every day to Chicago.
There was always a plane that was waiting on the outskirts of town in Dayton, Tennessee at a small airstrip, and they would fly newsreel to Chicago where it would then be distributed across the nation in movie theaters, which was how people would get their news through these newsreel news shorts, as they were known.
And they could watch some of what was unfolding inside the courtroom.
There's still some newsreel footage available.
I found it on YouTube.
You know, it's not pretty stuff, but by today's standards, but it still exists.
This trial really impacted almost everybody who was involved in it, in particular the defendant, John Scopes.
Now, Scopes was arrested and charged with the crime of teaching evolution under this new statute that Tennessee had passed.
But other states were doing the same thing.
They were also banning books that gave instruction, textbooks on evolution in other states.
Scopes' life was in so many ways, wasn't it, Don, ruined by this case?
No, without question.
A chunk of our book is dedicated to kind of the retelling of what happened to John Scopes afterward.
I mean, he disappeared in many ways.
He became an alcoholic.
He lost relationship with his own family and children, moved to Central America.
There were so many places where his life went in a direction he was not anticipating because so many people were bothered by the idea that he had put himself in this place.
He was clearly a bad person.
And what it did, even some of those who tried to chronicle it, he wouldn't allow others to talk about it.
He was, as you said, crushed by the moment.
I mean, it was really a sad epitaph to a lie.
And this was a guy who was very bright, and he, I think he wanted to be a lawyer.
But, you know, he almost enrolled, I think it was the University in Kentucky Law School, and that he realized that his fame or infamy was haunting him.
And, you know, he realized that he could never be a lawyer, especially in the shadow of his famous trial attorney, Clarence Darrow.
Yeah, what a great description of it.
Haunt would be the word that you would have to look for if you're trying to understand what happened to him next and over the remaining course of his life.
Late in his life, he tried to regain some of that fame, actually signed up and was part of game shows and a couple of other things where he tried to use what little fame was left to help him recover some of his lost finances.
But yeah, I mean, it was the promising career of a young teacher was never the same.
Let's talk about the journalist who had more influence on this trial across America than anybody.
In his day, he was the most famous journalist in America, H.L. Mencken, who was this gifted writer and a very intelligent, thoughtful person, but with a very acerbic pen or typewriter.
And, you know, he took direct aim at William Jennings Bryan, whom he mocked, ridiculed, and demeaned.
And everybody across America read Mencken's column during the trial.
Yeah, one of the great ironies, though, that stood out to both of us as we were kind of digging into this, because yes, Mencken became quite famous over time and even more famous during that trial.
But while he was there covering it, he had made a decision when he realized that Clarence Darrow was not going to get to put on his expert witnesses.
He made the decision to go back to Baltimore, to leave Dayton, because he thought, wow, this is over.
And so he actually missed and was not there for the piece of the trial when William Jennings Bryan actually took the stand.
Wasn't there for the very, for maybe the most significant piece of the entire event.
You know, today you get fired for going home early and missing the most pivotal part of the trial of the century.
Again, my guest is John.
Don Yeager is my co-author of The Trial of the Century.
You can order it online.
Pre-order it now.
It's an important book, I think.
And, you know, in the book, I talk so much about how I admired and respected Clarence Darrow, his principles.
He was known as the attorney for the damned.
But he was also flawed.
We open one of the chapters where Darrow shows up at the door of his one-time girlfriend.
He is drunk.
He has got a gun.
He lays it on the table and announces he's going to kill himself.
We've only got about a minute or so left, but he was not a perfect person.
But I identified with that because I'm not, nobody is.
We're all afflicted with human frailty, and Darrow was certainly among us.
Yeah.
You know, Greg, I don't want to spoil it, but I will tell you that maybe my favorite part of the entire book is where at the end, you take the reins of the writing machine that we had to talk about why you saw this as such an important cultural event and how it plays into many of the things we are thinking about today.
I hope readers make sure that as they dig into this book, that they absolutely listen in to your words there at the end.
It was really powerful.
Well, you know, there is another battlefront that has arisen in education, not unlike the trial of the century, this vocal conflict that is so fierce over a different kind of academic freedom, the teaching of a doctrine known as critical race theory.
And I don't shy away from it in the epilogue.
And I give an analysis of what Darrow would do today in the face of critical race theory.
And I think it will surprise people who are expecting me to take a particular point of view, but I try to be as fair as I possibly can.
I talk about the good and the bad because the problem with CRT are the disparate definitions of it and the use of it in various classroom settings.
There is the more benign, appropriate history approach, but there are other approaches that are less benign.
And states have reacted to it.
I recount how Oklahoma has enacted a statute that restricts lessons on race and gender.
And the ACLU, once again, has stepped in and sued.
And the case is still pending, regardless of its outcome.
This is a case that could go all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
So today's version of the trial of the century is not creationism versus evolution, but critical race theory and under what circumstances it is appropriate or inappropriate for it to be taught in America's public schools.
Don Yeager, thanks for sticking around for another half-hour discussion on our book, which comes out very soon, but can be pre-ordered now online.
It's called The Trial of the Century.
Great.
Don Yeager, thanks very much for taking the time.
Thanks for having me, friend.
I'm Greg Jarrett, sitting in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hennity Radio Show.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back with more.
And welcome back to the Sean Hennity Show.
I'm Greg Jarrett, filling in for Sean.
It's been a pleasure over the last three hours, particularly talking to my co-author, Don Yeager.
And I have written the book, The Trial of the Century.
It's available now for pre-order online.
Just go to amazon.com, barnsandnoble.com, any other online site.
The book comes out shortly, but you can pre-order it right now, Trial of the Century.
It is, I think, a gripping history of the great legal battle between renowned attorney Clarence Darrow and three-time presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan in the famous Scopes Monkey Trial: Evolution versus Creationism and the Outcome set the bedrock principles for academic freedom,
free speech, intellectual enlightenment, and the power of ideas, all cherished rights and principles that we enjoy today.
Again, that's Trial of the Century available for pre-order right now.
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