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March 4, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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FBI vs. America - March 3rd, Hour 3
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If you want to be a part of the program, as we have been highlighting pretty much all week, not a good week for the FBI, not a good week for the Department of Justice.
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But it wasn't a good week for the FBI or the DOJ.
Jim Jordan happens to be in New York tonight.
He will be with our studio audience tonight.
So I'm looking forward to, I haven't seen him in a long time.
Number one, number two, he's doing such a good job as the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
And, you know, Christopher Wray goes on, and I thought Brett Baird did a very fair, but also a very tough interview.
And Christopher Wray, he ducked, he dodged, he deflected, he obfuscated and did everything but answer the questions that were asked.
You know, and his proclamations are meaningless.
When he says, oh, the FBI has not been politicized, he's lying.
We've given example chapter verse the 2020 election, talking to big tech companies.
Oh, you might get disinformation about Joe or Hunter Biden.
Every, you know, having weekly meetings with big tech companies.
Oh, they knew Rudy had the Hunter Biden laptop.
They had it since December of 2019.
So rather than authenticate it, do their job, probably the low-hanging fruit.
They could have arrested him on any one of, you know, simple issues from crack use to hookers to let's see, oh, lying on a gun application, none of which happened.
Here we are three plus years later.
They didn't do any of that.
And they basically primed all these big tech companies so that when the story would break, when Rudy would release the laptop, they knew he had it.
They were primed not to believe it, but it was all true.
It is the laptop from hell.
You know, so oh, but there's no politics in the FBI, according to Christopher Wright.
You know, when he's asked about the dual system of justice, why was Mar-a-Lago raided?
But why not Hillary's home in Chappaqua?
No prosecutor would ever prosecute.
Why do we have a special counsel then looking into documents as it relates to Donald Trump?
Why is that?
Why was Joe Biden's ever-so-safe and locked garage, which we have picture after picture of it being open with that crappy stingray Corvette of his?
By the way, it is nothing compared to the new Z06.
That is the Corvette of all time.
I can't even get one.
I've been trying my hardest.
I can't get the one I want.
I want the Z06, but I want it with the Z07 package, which you can get.
You can't get the Z07 package.
Long story.
Anyway, but Christopher Ray's out there, I have not found that the FBI is trying to shut down the Hunter investigation.
What the hell have you been doing for three and a half years?
Then Merrick Arlin, I don't know who is worse.
Merrick Arlin out there saying the fentanyl crisis is unleashed on purpose by Mexican drug cartels.
You're allowing it to happen.
You're the Attorney General of the United States.
We have laws that prevent people from illegally entering our country, and we're setting record after record while you're the attorney general.
Close the border.
Do your job.
You know, and then the thing that really pissed me off, he said, diplomatic concerns that the administration has labeling Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations.
Are you kidding me?
All those drugs are killing our kids.
All that human trafficking, even of young girls.
I mean, it's awful.
We have more than enough ability to attack the fentanyl problem.
Apparently, not because there's enough fentanyl crossing that border to kill every American 15 times over.
And then he went on to say, well, the DOJ has prosecuted more pro-life protesters because their actions happen during the day.
What?
The FBI goes to sleep at night?
Nobody works at the Department of Justice or the FBI at night?
I have pledged not to interfere with the Hunter Biden investigation.
Oh, so I will be part of the cover-up and do nothing three and a half years later.
You know, you just can't make this up.
Now, we're going to get a series of very brave, courageous FBI agents.
We have dozens of them now that are coming forward to say that the FBI has been politicized and the DOJ is being weaponized.
Two such agents join us now.
One is Agent Tom Baker.
He is an expert on James Comey and how the FBI has turned into a threat to our very democracy.
Nicole Parker is back with us.
She's the former FBI special agent.
She did a lot of her work down in Miami in very high-profile cases and gave up a very lucrative career on Wall Street after 9-11 to join the FBI to serve her country.
It's an incredible story.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
Tom Baker, you actually released a book.
It's called The Fall of the FBI.
We're going to link it to Hannity.com.
It's on Amazon.com.
And you explain how the Mueller-Comey cabal turned the FBI from a swear-to-tell-the-truth law enforcement agency to being politicized.
Exactly.
Thank you, Sean.
That's exactly it.
How did it happen?
I could, you know, when James Comey gave his July 2016 press conference, no prosecutor would prosecute when he ignored 33,000 deleted emails deleted with bleach bit hammers used to destroy Blackberries and iPhones.
If I did that, would I be arrested for obstruction?
He, Comey, exacerbated, through his poor leadership, the cultural change that Bob Mueller set in motion.
And the change in FBI culture actually begins under Bob Mueller.
But as I explained in the book, it manifests itself under Comey and his disastrous directorship of the FBI.
Let me bring in Nicole.
Nicole, you gave up a very lucrative position that you had.
You were working on Wall Street.
You were down at the site of 9-11 down when the towers were hit.
You were there, and that changed the entire trajectory of your life.
And you went into the FBI and gave up that lucrative career.
You worked on high-profile cases, and you left before your retirement because of these very things we're talking about.
That's correct.
You know, I gave up a lot, but I considered it my honor and privilege to be a special agent in the FBI.
I was honored to work there.
I love America, and I wanted to serve the people of this great nation.
And I did, and I served with honor, and I served with those alongside with me, and we worked hard.
But, you know, Sean, it got to the point where the incidents that you're describing, they just got loud, and they were drowning out the work that we were doing down in the field offices.
And this is a very sad thing to say, but there are many people that are no longer proud to say that they're FBI special agents.
And I speak to my colleagues, my former colleagues all the time.
And it used to be, oh, my gosh, I'm so proud to tell people I'm in the FBI.
But with the series of events that have transpired, there are many that no longer feel this way.
And, you know, they're keeping their heads low, working hard, and they're looking to count down the number of days until they collect their well-deserved pensions.
And that's just not how it used to be.
I believe in standing up for what is right.
I believe in having integrity.
It is the Federal Bureau of Investigation, fidelity, bravery, and integrity.
And I just could no longer continue working there because I was not in agreement with a lot of the decisions and a lot of the political things that were happening.
It just was not, in my opinion, in alignment with what I signed up for.
Honesty and integrity are preeminent importance.
And it was difficult for me to continue to justify to individuals.
They'd ask, what in the world is going on at the FBI?
And I would constantly respond, you know, I can't really explain what's going on.
I don't know what's going on up in Washington.
All I can tell you is that we're working really, really hard here.
We're working violent crime.
We're working these mass shootings.
But it just continued to happen over and over.
And I no longer endorsed that type of behavior at the FBI.
And it became difficult to separate yourself from the egregious behavior because, you know, it's almost as if there became two FBIs, right?
You've got the people that are really just down there trying to get the work done and then the others that are almost using their positions to push their political agendas.
And I just was not, I was not in agreement with it.
And I just felt that it was time to walk away.
What percentage would you, if you had to put a number on it, of your fellow agents in your bureau down in Miami agree with you?
You know, it's hard to tell sometimes because you really do just try to focus on the work and keep your thoughts to yourself, but it's to the point where people are voicing their concerns on a daily basis when I was there.
I would say, I'd say a large percentage agree with my position.
And I appreciate that Chris Ray came out.
I appreciate that he had the interview with Brett Baer.
That was an excellent interview by Brett Baer.
I really appreciated that a lot.
Oh, it was great by him.
I thought the answers were atrocious.
Yeah, well, and I just wanted to touch on a couple things, but specifically the first thing that Chris Ray mentioned is that the thousands and thousands of Americans are signing up to come work for the FBI, and the number's gone up since I've joined.
And that's just not exactly what people are seeing on the ground level.
It's very interesting that he said the numbers are going up because we are constantly, we were constantly being told that we were short staffed.
We've all got to kind of pitch in because there aren't enough people to fill the openings on each of the squads.
So I thought that was interesting.
The shift in recruiting practices has dropped drastically.
They have lowered the eligibility requirements that are required by a special agent.
And, you know, when you're running a force like that, you want it to be high quality.
It's not quantity, it's quality.
Weren't there 50,000 agents that applied the year you applied and they only hired less than 1,000?
That is correct.
The year that I applied, those were the numbers.
I don't know that what he said.
I'm just saying, you know, on the ground level, the things that we're seeing, shifts in recruiting practices, I mean, I could give you specific examples of how they've lowered, you know, used to have to have three years of work experience.
Now it's two.
You used to have to get a certain score on the physical fitness test before you could go to Quantico.
Used to have to get a 12.
Now you only have to get a nine.
The drug, the drug requirement.
There are agents that I talk to, they're like, I remember when I applied, you couldn't have ever used a drug.
Now it's like, okay, you haven't used marijuana in the last year, a hard drug in the last, and it's just, you know, all of these.
Oh, my gosh.
So they really have lowered the standards.
Quick break, we'll come back with former FBI agents, Nicole Parker, Tom Baker, who wrote the book, The Fall of the FBI, How a Once Great Agency Became a Threat to Democracy.
Then we'll get to your calls, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue with former FBI agents, Tom Baker and Nicole Parker.
Tom Baker, what percentage of the FBI agents that you know and you talk to agree with you and Nicole?
The overwhelming percentage of agents, I talked to recently retired agents and some who are still on board, and the overwhelming, I'd say 20 to 1 agree with me and encourage me.
But the problem is in the FBI, there has been a change of culture.
It's manifest in the last two or three directors, but it's also manifest in the shift within the FBI.
Intelligence analysts who don't interact with the public, who don't work within the guidelines of the Constitution the way a special agent has to, they're driving the agenda now.
And that really came to, and a lot of agents are complaining to me about that.
And that really came to light in this recent disclosure about an intelligence analyst write-up suggesting that Catholics, in this instance, who prefer the Latin mass, that they be targeted as possible domestic terrorists.
That's outrageous.
It's another offense against the First Amendment.
And that's something usually special agents would stay away from because they weren't trained in the importance of the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments.
It really, really is unbelievable.
Is there any chance?
I don't see the change coming.
Christopher Wray's had his opportunity, Nicole.
Now, we do know that the investigation by the House Judiciary Committee into the FBI and the DOJ is happening.
Do you think it almost sounds like we need to go back to the old days and maybe restart this from the beginning and turn it back into the premier law enforcement agency in the country, which is something we had to do once before?
Yeah, Sean, I completely agree.
I've met Christopher Wray.
I met him actually his first day on the job ever.
He happened to be in the Miami division for a memorial service for an agent that had passed away, and I respected that.
And he was very, look, I'm not going to knock him as a person.
He was kind.
He was professional, respectful.
I had nothing positive, but, you know, nothing but positive things to say about that.
But as far as the leadership, it's kind of like a football team where you don't have a winning record.
And you know what?
What do you do?
You start over, right?
You get a new coach, you get new players.
And there are so many amazing people doing good work at the FBI.
But in order to restore the faith of the American people, we are going to, the FBI is probably going to need to make some drastic changes.
And I agree with Tom Baker on what he said as well.
This is a law enforcement agency.
And I think that's what Americans want and deserve.
Just want an unbiased, impartial law enforcement agency that is there to protect them.
It's going to be interesting to watch as all of you come out and speak out and are whistleblowers whether or not there'll be retribution because I am hearing that Merrick Garland is telling people you're not allowed to talk to Congress.
I can't even believe that.
We have whistleblower laws that protect people that tell the truth about things that are going wrong in government.
Nicole, always great to have you.
Thank you.
Former FBI agent Tom Baker's new book is out, The Fall of the FBI: How a Once Great Agency Became a Threat to Democracy.
It's on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
We appreciate both of you being with us.
We really do.
Sad, Sean, thank you for all you're doing.
Well, yeah, when they arrest me, remind me of that, okay?
I don't want to talk badly about the FBI.
I grew up, I just said this yesterday.
My grandfather and his brother come from Ireland, and my grandfather's brother had two kids that became FBI agents.
We looked it up to them.
They were deity in my family.
They were the top of the top.
They achieved the American dream.
I don't want to talk badly about the FBI.
I want to restore it to its proper position as the premier law enforcement agency in the country.
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I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this.
We did a lot last night when the verdict came in in the Alec Murdaugh trial, guilty on all counts.
And it should have been.
If you haven't watched the Netflix series, it's only three episodes.
There's also a documentary on Apple that I think is worth watching, also.
And, you know, this is a prominent South Carolina attorney, big-time Democratic donor.
He will now spend the rest of his life in jail for murdering his wife, Maggie, his 22-year-old son, Paul.
I mean, what kind of evil exists in somebody's heart that you can kill your child and your wife?
If you don't like, you know, if you're not getting along, separate.
You know, I'm not encouraging that.
I mean, how do you do that?
How do people turn so dark?
Well, in his case, he did everything so wrong, and he thought he was great on the stand, which was a dumb move.
You know, Greg Jarrett actually had a really good column about it.
He said that was a Hail Mary pass from the get-go.
I'll admit I'm a liar.
I'll admit I'm a crook.
I'll admit I'm a drug addict, but I'm not a murderer.
And then all of a sudden, and this may be a trend that happens in our legal system moving forward because he was being interviewed by the police.
He said, I was not in the area where this took place in the kennel that they had on their property with all these dogs.
And then for months and months, they weren't able to open his son's iPhone.
They finally opened it up.
And when they opened it up, they went to an app called WhatsUp, which I guess is like, you know, signal one of these private WhatsApp as well.
Okay, so whatever.
See, I don't even know.
But, you know, I guess it's supposed to be more private, more secure, and it erases, I guess, or something.
I don't know.
People use it.
I don't.
But anyway, so they opened it up.
And moments before the murder, you hear this guy, Murdaugh's voice on tape.
I couldn't believe it.
Anyway, he was, you know, you look until recently, they were one of the most prominent families in Hampton County.
They ran the biggest law firm down there.
They had deep, deep ties to the local judicial system.
If you watch the Netflix series, you know, you find out, you know, two separate incidents.
One where one of his sons is driving a boat drunk, and this poor young girl, you know, they hit the side of a bridge or one of the pilings on the bridge and destroyed the boat, but the girl lost her life.
And then the parents go in and tell all the kids, well, my son wasn't driving, right?
You know, and try and fix it.
Another case, one of the kids topples over the car.
Somebody starts to call 911.
They take the phone and say, no, we're not calling 911.
We're calling dad.
And dad fixes that too.
Supposed to be, you know, a lawyer.
But anyway, on top of all of that, then they had this housekeeper.
Her name was Gloria.
She died.
I think the amount of money they, you know, he admitted to stealing settlement money from clients that he represented.
I think in that case, that a $4.3 million life insurance policy.
He kept the money and didn't give it to this woman's kids.
I mean, there's $9 million in total that this guy robbed from people.
The jury took only three hours to deliberate all of this, convicted of killing his son, Paul, his wife, Maggie.
He admitted to, okay, I'll admit to stealing all this money from clients.
I'll admit that I'm a drug addict.
I'll admit that I'm a crook and a liar, but I'm not a murderer.
That was the whole defense.
But you know what?
Because they were so prominent, in my mind, there was not a guaranteed slam-dunk guilty verdict coming out of this.
You know, you wonder, is there some one person on that jury that can be persuaded or maybe wants to be in good standing with this crazy family?
I mean, anything can happen.
They even, the family was so prominent, the portrait of the grandfather had to be taken off the county courthouse and removed before the trial.
I mean, that's how prominent this family was.
He comes from a family that held what is essentially the DA's office where he lives for generations.
The great-grandfather, the grandfather, the father, and him.
I mean, it's insane.
You can't even make up a story like this.
Then, when his son, Paul, was in that drunk driving boat accident and crashed and killed this teenage girl, Mallory Beach, who beautiful young woman, had a boyfriend.
I mean, this guy's heart was ripped out of his, just ripped out of his chest.
You know, you could just see it when they do the Netflix series.
Anyway, probably the biggest bit of evidence, though, became the fact that he is on tape lying to police, saying he wasn't at the site of the murders in the kennel.
And then they finally get the son's phone open and find out and hear his voice just moments before the shooting took place.
It's amazing.
We're going to see more of that technology, I would argue, in the future.
But anyway, I think it came out the way that it should have.
And it's just sad.
And then his other son, Buster, was in the courtroom the entire time.
You know, and he's got a brother who apparently had to scoop up the brains of his nephew in the kennel and clean all that mess up.
Unbelievable.
All right, let's get to our busy phones here.
Adam is in Utah.
Adam, how are you?
I wish I was there with you, and I wish we were a Kraunberger.
What's going on?
Yep, I go to Krownberger quite a bit.
My figure shows it.
But the question I have for you, Sean, is by the way, if you go to Krownberger like every day, there's no way you're going to keep the pounce off.
It's not going to happen, but it's worth it.
I will say that.
Yeah, there's one a couple of miles away from me I go fairly often.
But you and people like Clay and Buck do a great job of explaining how the FBI and the media at large are so biased and liberal.
But what I'd like to know is why.
What's in it, especially for the FBI to favor Biden and liberalism so much?
What's your opinion about that?
Listen, can I get to somebody's true motives?
No, I think I can give you a pretty good educated guess, though.
I think that, again, and I separate out and I extrapolate out rank and file agents that put their lives on the line for us every day.
They do really dangerous work.
Many of them don't go home because a lot of these agents get killed in the line of duty.
Nobody talks about them.
We don't know their names.
We should know all their names.
They're very good people that are dedicated to service.
We talked to two of them in the last half hour.
But the ones that are in upper management, those are usually the political operatives.
They play the game.
They go along with the system.
And to be very blunt, in both 2016, when they let Hillary off the hook and gave her a break that nobody else, I think, would ever get.
And when they used Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier, that even its author, they offered him a million dollars to corroborate it, and he couldn't collect because he couldn't corroborate it.
But then they used it as the basis for four FISA warrants.
James Comey himself signed three of them, lying to a FISA court.
Guess what happens to you or me, Adam, if we lie to a court?
What do you think would happen to me?
Sean Hannity lied to a judge.
What do you think happens to Sean Hannity?
You don't go, you don't pass go and you don't collect 200 bucks.
Yeah, I go straight to where?
Jail.
Exactly.
And by the way, it's not something I would ever do.
Like, I tell everybody, pay your taxes.
That's the dumbest thing in the world for people not to pay their taxes.
Follow the laws.
I don't like paying my taxes.
But you know what?
I'm not risking my freedom, my liberty, you know, to save what?
You know, whatever amount of money it's not worth.
I'd rather be poor, honestly, than spend any time in jail over something so stupid.
So the answer is I think that they are, they think that they knew better in 2016 and 2020 when they were priming these big tech companies.
Oh, you might get disinformation about the Bidens.
It might be about Joe.
It may be about Han.
The FBI had had the laptop since December of 2019, and in five minutes, they could have authenticated it.
So they set up these big tech companies to do exactly what happened.
They knew this information would get out because Rudy had a copy.
And when it came out, they had been primed and set up not to believe it.
And that's putting basically cinder blocks on the scales of a presidential election to sway it towards the Democrat, kind of like what they did in 2016.
So that's my answer to you.
It's about power and them thinking they know better than we, the people.
It's a shame.
Yeah, we're losing our country.
You're damn right.
It's a shame.
It's awful.
I had my Facebook account censured twice for posting the truth about what you just talked about.
They just, by the way, out in Utah, they just banned, I think, Mike Lee on Twitter.
I don't know if he's been reinstated.
And I'm like, why are you banning Mike Lee?
That was a surprise to me.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, Adam.
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Ricky is in Alabama.
Where in Alabama are you, Ricky?
How are you?
Happy Friday.
Hey, I'm doing well, Sean.
I was just going to make a comment on the...
Well, you didn't tell me.
Where in Alabama are you from?
Oh, I'm sorry, Dothan.
Dothan, Alabama.
Oh, I know Dothan really well.
What's going on, my friend?
Not too much.
I was just thinking about this.
The FBI has had the laptop since December 2019.
The statute of limitations on a federal crime is five years.
Not five years from the time that you got the laptop.
It's five years from the time the crimes that are recorded on that laptop.
So they have five years to secure the indictment.
And grand juries don't meet every day.
They meet every day.
We know that happened in the case of Hillary.
We know that happened in the case of these FBI agents that abused power in 2016.
If you're asking me if there is probably an attempt to run out the clock, I would have to agree with you, although I don't specifically know what the statute of limitations are on every potential charge.
It only pertains to like sex charges and things like that, that you can exceed the five-year mark.
I'm a police officer, been a police officer for 25 years.
And it's specific crimes.
The crimes that are alleged on the laptop are not crimes that are subject to the special exemption that you could exceed the five years.
You know, Greg Jared could probably answer the question.
No, it's a great question.
Actually, I've talked to Greg about it, and he did say there were statute of limitation issues with it.
He did.
And by the way, we might be getting to that point.
Remember, John Paul Mack Isaac, the computer repairman, he did the right thing.
He handed it over to the FBI in December of 2019 because he saw things on there that likely were illegal.
I mean, it's terrible.
By the way, what do you do in law enforcement?
I've just been a patrol officer, a canine handler, and all kind of stuff.
I'm happily ending my career here pretty soon.
Well, thank you for your service to your state, your community.
You're protecting and serving every day.
And we appreciate you listening and being a part of the program.
Have a great weekend, my friend.
All right.
Thank you.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
John is in New York.
John, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday to you, Sean.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How you doing, man?
I got that New York accent.
I hear it.
You're talking like a New Yorker.
What's going on?
Can't hide it.
You can't hide it.
I was just listening.
I was born and raised in New York, so I'm allowed to make fun of myself, too, you know.
Yeah, I know, I know, and you do a lot, and that's uh, I appreciate that.
What's on your mind, buddy?
Uh, just uh, I was listening the other day, and um, the whole what's going on with New York and every everything with the BLM and people getting monies for being arrested, and uh, you were chiming in or kind of pontificating about it.
And uh, I'm just wondering if you if you look at it at a different angle, why are they doing all these things?
Why are they paying uh, let's see, 5.3 million for five outdoor toilets in New York instead of running porter potties?
Uh, why is a teacher uh deciding without telling the parents uh that they're gonna just call a a a female in our class Leo because uh she felt that that was the more appropriate pronoun.
Uh, not telling the parents only found out after the girl expressed some suicidal tendencies, uh, or the $21,500 that the rioters in June of 2020 are getting from the city of New York.
Yeah, those are those are really interesting issues, and probably one of the biggest reasons why people have had it with New York, and they're leaving in droves.
You know, just a little under a thousand people a day, residents leaving.
And Florida's picking up nearly a thousand a day, and same with Texas, and the Carolinas are doing great, and Tennessee is doing great.
Great.
So, like I asked you before, why are they doing it?
Why?
Because this is who they are and what they believe.
You know, the people in the city of New York should be up in arms that their city's spending $5.3 million for five little porta potties, five of them.
Why don't we just build, you know, we could build a home three homes for a million dollars if you built it for free.
If you had people, you know, builders that were donating it.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
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