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So you're gonna be surprised, Mr. O'Reilly, at this one thing.
I read your Bill O'Reilly Message of the Day on betrayal today.
Thank you.
Okay, and by the way, it was well written.
I give you a lot of credit, well thought out.
Here's what I want to ask you about.
In light of what we now know from the Biden Energy Department, everything that anybody with common sense knew already, that the coronavirus was in fact manufactured in the Wuhan Virology lab where they were known to study coronaviruses and known for research on gain of function.
And then I started thinking, you know, the mob, the media, you know, many people in politics, they they knowingly lied to us.
Because that made the most sense.
The wet market, you know, theory that people were putting out there.
It didn't make any sense, especially, you know, now that we know the emails exist with Fauci and IH members.
But here's my question.
Then I started thinking about the media in this country.
They lied to us about the Wuhan lab.
They lied to us for three years that Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
That they used a Hillary Clinton bought and paid for dossier to spy on a presidential candidate and a president.
Um so many other Trump issues they lied about.
Remember Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
Um, I had contacts told me from day one, not one of those cops would be convicted.
I was right.
Uh I was told by people I knew my contacts on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri, uh, that there were multiple uh African American eyewitnesses that will back up the police officer's story that he was charged at, and that the confrontation began with Michael Brown and hands up, don't shoot never happened.
But the media went with it.
They went with the Duke LaCrosse lie.
I went out to Garden City, Long Island and met with the families, and I got a very different story.
They lied about UVA.
They lied about Trayvon Martin.
I went down and interviewed George Zimmerman and other people, and I began to realize it's not what the media is telling us.
Uh now, I'm not patting myself on the back or patting you on the back, because usually you and I are on the same page on most issues, not All but most.
But they get it wrong all the time, Bill.
That's a betrayal to fit into your, you know, your message of the day.
Okay, but you have to delineate between the government, the federal government, and the corporate media pundits.
So the federal government has a responsibility to tell the American people the truth about important situations like COVID.
It has abdicated that responsibility.
I would say now for the last decade, but remember, you'll get the media to tell you that Bush Cheney fabricated Iraq information to get us into that war.
Just keep that in mind that the left wing purports that to be true.
Now I talked to Colin Powell himself about it, and he was a Secretary of State at the time, and he was on board with uh going in and removing Saddam.
But anyway, the responsibility of the federal government is absolutely to tell the truth, and if you don't know the truth to say that.
That's gone.
And that's dangerous.
So a guy like Fauci comes out, he talks through the cliche is his hat.
He talks through his hat.
So he doesn't know how COVID came into the general population, but he says it wasn't a leak in the Wuham lab.
And it turns out that Fauci misled the entire world.
By the way, we have the email evidence now, Bill.
He knew from the beginning, and by the way, his first interview in March of 2020, he said masks don't work.
Now we learn last week that masks didn't didn't have any impact at all on in preventing COVID transmission.
Yeah, you just missed uh spoke a little.
He said that masks do work, and now we know by this one study, they most of them don't work.
But the Fauci COVID thing is inexcusable.
Inexcusable.
Now remember, Trump hired Fauci.
All right, he was on Trump's staff and then he he stayed when Biden came in.
But that man, you can't arrest him and he's out now, but you can shame him.
And I think a congressional committee should you can't shame people that have no shame.
Well, I I think in his case, the American people should know that the leading health person misled the country.
So let me let me take it a step further, and let me go back to your message of the day on betrayal.
All right, but wait, wait.
All right, go ahead.
The pundits because there's a difference between the government and the pundits.
So the pundits now, and this is a change from when you and I started at the Fox News Channel 25 years ago.
This is a change.
They now hire people, the corporations do, who will echo the corporate philosophy.
Jeff Zucker, the best example of that at CNN.
Zucker destroyed the network because the network was built on we cover the news accurately.
One man destroyed it, and he hired people who would do what he told them to do for money.
And that was caught on tape by Project Veritas, but continue.
Right.
MSNBC is the same thing, and NBC News should be ashamed of itself.
Again, they don't have shame, Bill.
All right, and I uh I agree with that.
But they hire people who are activists, activists, not journalists, not analyst activists, because they know that their audience is one hundred percent far left.
And they're gonna feed the audience that stuff every night.
And there are just droves of people who will say what they are told to say for money.
And that's just a fact.
Let me let me then go Back to your message of the day, and you've opened up a whole new can of worms, and I agree with you generally that there is a distinction in terms of what the government feeds you, or you know, I I watched the interview with with Christopher Ray and Brett Bear, and he just lied through his teeth.
And I'm these are provable lies that he was telling last night, or he du he dodged and ducked and weaved and and didn't want to answer them.
But you've opened up a can of worms here because we've now gotten to the point I would argue, and you can correct me if you think I'm wrong, is that for the most part the Democratic Party, the liberal left agenda, the climate alarmist cultists, and the media mob are one.
They think alike, they support each other and their world view, and as evidenced, for example, by the Hunter Biden laptop.
I mean, that would have had a profound impact on the 2020 election.
The FBI had that laptop in December of 2019.
The FBI used agents to speak to big tech companies weekly warning them that they might be victims of misinformation campaigns.
Oh, and it might be about Joe Biden, it might be about Hunter Biden.
So anything they read about Hunter or Joe, they were they they had already been primed not to believe it.
But it's it's not that one instance.
It's about masks, it's about the Wuhan lab, it's about Russia collusion, all the other Trump attacks that proved to be false, Freddie Gray, Ferguson, Missouri, Duke Lacrosse, UVA, George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin.
They get they've gotten it all wrong together, Bill.
And and and I will pat myself on the back.
Because you're not gonna do I I was right on all these issues.
There's no accountability for those people to get it wrong.
And when you have no accountability, then what does it matter?
But it got to be on steroids once Trump was elected in 16.
See, 16 was really the collapse of the American media.
The American media collapsed after Trump got elected.
Because the corporations were so they were caught by surprise, they thought Hillary Clinton would win.
Trump gets in, they hate him personally, and they hate his politics.
And the orders went out, and you can read the New York Times orders.
No longer are we going to cover the news in a fair objective manner.
He's so dangerous, we're gonna do everything we can to take him out.
And that led to the Russian collusion.
It permeated the FBI, which is much more important than that.
Bill, Bill, they got two pullets of prizes off of phony stories, Bill.
the pulitzer price uh...
organization is now we know so the corruption is always a point in history to have it it always a of flashpoint where corruption surges and it's happened ever since of the george washington and and that it goes down a bit when we put so-called reformers like teddy roosevelt comment but the flashpoint for our current corrupt country in media and
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o'reilly a bill o'reilly dot com so we have we have now have two presidential elections in a row where we know that the fbi put their thumb heavily on the scale in support of the democratic candidate well in this in the two thousand twenty election the fbi i wasn't as blatant as the sixteen election wait a minute bill they were meeting weekly with big tech
Okay, but we don't know what those meet look no, we actually do because uh the the head of site integrity at Twitter in a case of Missouri, then uh attorney general of Missouri, Eric Schmidt, under oath, this guy said they were meeting weekly with the FBI.
The FBI was giving them specific warnings that they'll be subject to misinformation campaigns, including uh subjects like Hunter and Joe Biden.
That's true.
But Ray said yesterday on Fox News, that's what the FBI believed.
That they didn't contrive that.
They believed that.
But wait a minute.
But they knew but they knew I mean, this is an important point.
The FBI had the laptop in December 2019.
That's 11 months before the election.
They could have corroborated that in ten days, maximum.
Uh the FBI was specifically mentioning the mentioning the name Hunter Biden.
They also knew that Rudy Giuliani had a copy, and they knew it was likely going to be leaked, but they're telling big tech they're going to be subject to misinformation.
It comes out, and they never said a word that it was a legitimate laptop, which it was.
They never do that.
But in this case, with the media now stonewalling the story.
Certainly the FBI should have updated the American people that they were taking the laptop seriously.
That's all they had to do.
Now all the FBI had to do, they didn't have to intrude on any of it, because Ray always falls back, as you said, on the same thing.
Oh, I can't comment.
It's under investigation.
That's BS.
There's no rule in the federal government, you can't comment.
You can say we have an active investigation.
We're taking the Okay, let me add one last piece of the puzzle.
Right.
The guy the lead FBI agent in 2016 wrote his thesis on how Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.
He was the lead agent on the big tech outreach.
Yeah, that's not that doesn't look good, does it?
Uh, Bill, uh what I'm saying.
So my point is it stays the same.
They have put their thumb on the scales to benefit Democratic candidates.
Is it gonna happen in 2024, Bill?
Well, that's up to the uh congressional committees uh that are now under the control of the Republicans.
See, look, the only way this gets fixed is if Congress starts to say, this person, that person, this person did X, Y, and Z, so everybody in the country knows it.
And that's the only way it gets fixed.
So now you have the evidence, I have the evidence.
You would assume the congressional committees have the evidence, so they have to start putting it out, and they have to start saying we can't have a duplication of this in 24.
This can't happen.
You know, it it no matter how consistent people like you and I are, how often we get things right, uh, and that we will never get credit, Mr. O'Reilly.
That also is a betrayal.
Listen, last word.
The folks give us credit.
And that's the most important thing.
You know what?
That's a great answer.
And thank God for the folks, or you and I wouldn't have a microphone and a camera every day.
You bet.
All right, my friend.
Thank you.
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Before we get to your calls, let me let me go back to, you know, it wasn't an accident that Christopher Wray spoke to Brett Baer yesterday.
And Merrick Garland was on the hill getting grilled earlier today.
And he just he just sounded stupid.
Let me give you the example of stupid.
Now, he is the Attorney General of the United States.
Now, what a lot of people don't know is the DOJ and the FBI are part of Joe Biden's executive branch of government.
You know, I think this is what frustrated Donald Trump in all the years.
He always thought that this was his attorney general.
You know, you're going to be my guy, he said to Coley.
Now he said that coming from outside the Washington swamp and not knowing that, you know, there has to be there has to be independence, etc.
Um, Merrick Garland knows with five plus million people entering the country in two years Under Joe Biden, that every one of those people broke our laws, didn't respect our borders, didn't respect our sovereignty, and the fentanyl crisis and the opioid crisis, in large part is because those borders are wide open.
You know, the fentanyl made in China makes its way to the southern border, makes it way to every small town and big city in America.
The same thing with heroin, the same thing with cocaine, the same thing with methamphetamine.
It's all coming through the southern border.
Listen to what Merrick Garland says about the fentanyl crisis.
Sentinel deaths uh are more than gun and accident deaths combined in the United States.
Did you know that?
Yes, sir.
I mean, this is how would you describe the fentanyl problem in America?
It's a horrible epidemic.
Okay.
Uh, but it's an epidemic that's been unleashed on purpose by the Sinaloa and the new generation Jalisco cartels.
Then why aren't you uh why aren't you as attorney general enforcing the laws of this country and securing our borders and telling people when they enter the country illegally to leave?
Why are you not telling states and cities they leaveable?
Then Merrick Garland uh earlier today, you know, claims the DOJ has prosecuted more pro-life protesters over, you know, the pro-abortion uh some of them are lunatics.
You know, we've had all these threats against uh anti-abortion clinics or pro-life clinics uh around the country, and his answer is, oh, well, the reason is is because more pro-life protesters, their actions are during the day.
Oh, the FBI, you know, does more work in the daytime, not nighttime?
Listen.
Um, I will say you're quite right.
There are many more prosecutions with respect uh to the um uh blocking of the uh um of the abortion centers, but that is generally because they are uh those actions are taken in uh with photography at the time, um uh uh during the daylight, and uh seeing the person who did it is uh quite easy.
Um those who are attacking the pregnancy resources centers, uh, which is uh a horrid thing to do, are doing this at night um in the dark.
We have put full resources on this.
Uh we have uh uh asked uh put uh um uh rewards out for this.
We're prosecuting more pro-life protesters because their actions take place during the day, and we're home eating at night and and we're taking the night off.
I I can't believe he's saying that and getting away with it.
Then he was asked um, you know, about Hunter Biden.
Uh now remember the DOJ, the FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop since December of 2019.
They could have verified it was authentic.
They could have done it way early in in the 2020 election cycle, which they had every business to do, but no, the FBI, under the DOJ's leadership, they went around, they had a uh uh an FBI SWAT team, if you will, uh speaking weekly with every big tech company, warning them that they're gonna be victims of some foreign disinformation campaign, and it may be about Joe Biden and it may be about Hunter Biden.
They also know and knew that Rudy Giuliani had a copy, meaning they knew it was gonna be released, likely leaked, and it was, and yet they did nothing, and they still do nothing to Hunter.
Listen.
Um, so uh as the committee well knows from my confirmation hearing, I promise uh to leave I promised to leave the manner of Hunter Biden in the hands of the U.S. attorney uh for the District of Delaware who was appointed uh in the previous administration, so any information like that should have gone uh or should or should have uh gone to that U.S. attorney's offices and the FBI squad that's working uh with him.
I have pledged not to interfere uh with that investigation, and I uh have carried through on my pledge.
I I it's uh this makes my between that and the interview with Christopher Ray last night with Brett Baer just makes my blood boil.
It really does.
All right, Frank is in uh North Carolina.
Frank doesn't make my blood boil.
How are you, Frank?
Glad you called.
Hey, I want to know about the accountability for Fauci for Newsom for Lifet, for Cuomo.
Who and how are they going to be held accountable for demanding we wear masks, that we Get the shots that we get the booster shots, and they were not only ineffective, but to some degree dangerous.
If we look at the athletes that are dropping off, dying repeatedly day after day, where's that accountability?
Well, there's an uh there's an epidemic almost.
I would I don't know if I'd call it an epidemic.
There is a serious number increase in numbers of young people having heart attacks and myocarditis as a result of getting shots uh you know much earlier than they otherwise should or even getting them at all, considering they're not the people that were at risk, especially if they're young and they're healthy, uh etc.
Um, who's gonna be accountable accountable?
Nobody.
You want me to just lie to you and tell you somebody's gonna be held accountable?
Nobody.
That's why I am telling the people the nail right on the head when he said that they're not gonna be account accountable and they're gonna continue to do and take the actions and continue to lie like they have been.
What am I telling the people of East Palestine in Ohio?
Don't believe the government.
If the people that bought into you know Obamacare, keep your doctor, keep your plan.
The average family saves $2,500 a year, ended up being a nightmare.
Millions of millions of Americans lost their doctors, their plans, and we're paying about 250% more on average, and 40% of the country only has one Obamacare Exchange option.
Uh thanks a lot.
You know, but but look, this is now standard fare.
You know, this is what was discussing with with Bill O'Reilly.
You know, we they they knew early on that the COVID 19 virus likely came from the Swoohan Virology lab uh because we see the frantic emails with Fauci and other NIH officials.
Uh we he himself said masks don't work in his first interview.
Uh it turns out, you know, we were lied to about that.
The one thing that was working, monoclonal antibodies, they took away emergency use authorization for that.
Uh that is the only therapeutic that I can say with any certainty that was very effective.
The you know, there are other cocktails that definitely help people.
I'm not a doctor, I don't tell people what to do.
But look, think of they were wrong for three years.
They lied about Russia collusion.
Who got held accountable?
Nobody.
Uh I mean, they're wrong all the time.
And we have a crisis of information.
Then they attack conservatives, and we usually end up being right.
And they just make up stories about me like on a regular basis.
I got I if I read the crap that they and the lies that they told about me, I'd lose my mind.
I can't read this crap.
Anyway, I appreciate the call.
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Uh Joseph San Diego, Kogo Radio.
What's up, Joseph?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Um, I just can't uh I can't understand why we just can't call it the way it is.
You know, um why can't we just say the Emperor doesn't have any clothes on?
And by this I mean that Joe Biden's not running the show.
He hasn't run the show since day one.
But um I I think I was a little ahead of the curve on this, and remember I talked about Sippy Cup and you know that this guy doesn't know what day of the week it is and he's weak and he's frail and a cognitive mess.
I you might not remember, but I took a lot of heat for saying it early.
Yeah.
But you know, we elect one man to run the show, regardless if we like him or not.
And but you know, the the thing is is that there are a select group of people that are running the show right now, and they're the ones that are destroying this country.
You know, we're we you know who who leaves six billion dollars worth of military hardware to our enemy and allows millions to come into our country, inflation and everything else that's uh going on.
But everybody wants to blame Joe Biden.
Why we blame Joe Biden?
Joe Biden has nothing to do with this thing.
He's an old man who's sitting there being um probably bullied by the people that are taking charge.
You know, who are they?
Are they the Obamas?
Are they the Clintons?
But some rich people out there running Joe and telling him exactly what to do.
And who's investigating this?
You know, you got all these talking hands that come on your show, you got these senators and congressmen.
Well what what are we supposed to do?
Because the only option I see is to do to Joe Biden in November 2024 what Chicago did to Lori Lightweight yesterday, and that's fire her.
That's the only option that's available.
I could sit here and tell you they can impeach him, they can do this, they can do that.
They're not going to impeach him and get a conviction.
It's not gonna happen.
Okay.
But this is my second point here I want to make real quick.
Okay.
It's not gonna happen because you have a corrupt media, which is something that you've talked about in the past.
But everybody should know that when an opposing army control takes over a country, a civil war ensues, or a dictator, the first thing that they do is they take over the media because they need to control the narrative.
And the Democratic uh party has has hijacked the media.
And until the media is allowed to do what they're supposed to be doing, we'll never have another free election, and the country's gonna be destroyed.
The only thing I can say is there are not many of us.
There they I mean, I can name a lot of names, but compared to the mainstream media, ABC, MBC, CBS, fake news, CNN, MSDNC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, almost every major newspaper in the country.
If it wasn't for talk radio and some podcasting, and if it wasn't for Fox News, um, I I I we wouldn't get this information.
You know, my my entire career, just so you know, and I'm not complaining.
I'm very grateful that that you watch the TV show and listen to this radio show.
Um but for almost all of my career, there are people that are paid to listen to this show that sit in their underwear and take copious notes, record every word I say in the hopes that they can get me fired or boycotted or canceled.
That hap that that that's the reality I live under.
Now, it sounds like I'm whining if I talked about it every day.
I uh there's no need for you to hear it every day, but that's the reality I live under.
And I'm the guy that says don't fire Joy Reed.
I'm the guy that said don't fire Don Lemon.
I'm the guy that said don't fire Bill Maher.
I'm the guy that said don't fire or cancel anybody.
I've never supported a boycott.
I don't support cancellations.
I believe people should have an opportunity to revise and extend their remarks, apologize uh if they feel it sincerely and be given a second chance if if they want one.
I mean uh I'm just not that person.
I believe in liberty and I believe in freedom.
And you know, the the untold truth about all these shows, including my own, is I can't make you listen three hours a day.
I can only do a good enough show, hopefully that you'll want to listen.
I can only produce a good enough TV show every night uh in the hopes that you'll want to watch the show.
You don't have to watch.
You don't have to listen to any of these people.
And guess what?
I don't watch these people.
I don't listen to these people because I know I'm being lied to.
I'll give you the last 20 seconds.
All right.
But you understand that the masses are not.
You're preaching to the choir, but the masses are your church people or the church people, and they're the ones that are listening to the mainstream media.
The only way that we're going to resolve this and fix things is actually people go out and protest the media.
You want to laugh at something?
They've done studies on this.
More liberals watch my TV show and listen to my radio show than watch either CNN or MSDNC.
Does that shock you?
It does, but still the masses are still hearing it from the mainstream media.
Yeah.
Um, I mean, but we're not just preaching to the choir.
Now they'll tell you there are people that hate listen and hate watch.
And as I don't care if they're hating me listening, and I don't care if they're hating watching me.
As long as you know I get credit for the viewership and listenership, I'm fine.
Then I can stay in business and keep doing what I love.
And be an alternative voice that we need, I believe, as many voices as possible.
Anyway, listen, I had a good time talking to you, Joseph.
God bless you, my friend.
And I love San Diego.
It's beautiful out there.
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