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Tulsi Gabbard - February 17th, Hour 2
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Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jay Secul and Jordan Seculo in for Sean Hannity.
We are, I got to say this.
Right now, you're looking at what's going on in the air when it comes to balloons and spy balloons and regular balloons and the trains that are derailing with toxic material, airplanes hitting each other.
I mean, this is a dysfunctional government.
And I am thrilled with our next guest who we got who's really been a friend of ours for a long, long time.
That's right.
Tulsi Gabber is joining us now, 2020 Democrat presidential candidate, a veteran former congresswoman.
And she's been speaking out on this issue involving East Palestine, Ohio.
It is horrendous.
I'm sure if anybody's been watching, it's terrible.
Just the imagery.
And you know, just from the imagery alone, when you see the EPA come out and said, well, if it's been tested and that got the check from us, we drink the water.
And then you think about Camp Leader.
The governor said, no, you think about Camp Lejeut and these other issues we see.
You say, do we really want to trust these guys on this issue?
We know over time, it could be decades later to clean up at ground zero.
The list goes on.
Let's talk to our friend Tulsi Gabbard.
He has a great podcast.
By the way, I've had the privilege of being on.
Tulsi, welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
I'm glad you're with us.
I want to get you.
You know, you have, you've got a unique situation.
You've served in Congress.
You're serving our military.
So you've seen a lot from a lot of different sides.
You look at what's going on now.
You kind of half joke, but it's also very serious.
You got balloons being, you know, Chinese spy balloons being shot down.
And then we shoot down with military.
And you can't blame military for this.
They did what they were told.
Three balloons that apparently were like launched by the Northern Illinois Balloon Brigade.
You got a train derailment in Palestine, Palestine, Ohio, with toxic, toxic materials coming out.
And the people there are already suffering, and this is going to make it worse.
Airplanes are hitting each other on runways and near misses as they're landing.
You know, like I said, you've served in Congress.
You've served in the military.
What are you seeing right now?
I really want to get your view on this because this is to me horrific.
Dame Jordan, it's great to talk to you.
Look, it would be too simplistic to say, well, this is a failure of leadership.
We have to go deeper and understand why on the issues that you've raised, as well as so many others that we could cite, whether it's the open border or their collusion with big tech, there are so many, so many issues that we could cite that point to this failure of leadership, but it all comes down to the reality, which is they don't care about our country or the American people.
That is the only conclusion that can be drawn from this string of failures that are undermining our Constitution, undermining our freedom, and ultimately causing harm to the American people and to our national security.
So when we look at this response that they've had to the unfortunate catastrophe that the people in East Palestine are really struggling and suffering through is, number one, they did not do what was necessary to prevent this.
When you look at the Pete Buttigieg interview he did, I think yesterday or the day before, where he says, oh, well, you know, this incident is gaining particular attention, but there are over 1,000 train derailments in the last year alone, as though, hey, guys, there's not that much to see here because trains derail all the time.
Like, I don't understand how he doesn't see the problem in that statement of saying, well, hold on a second.
Why is that the case?
What are you as a director of transportation?
You put a small town mayor that they bragged about in charge of one of your biggest departments, the Department of Transportation.
By the way, you may have had derailments, but you didn't have derailments with toxic fumes in the air.
Yeah, so what it is a shocking number, though, tolls is to hear that we have that many derailments.
And we put together this $1.2 trillion infrastructure program.
That's exactly.
He talks about, oh, these all happened last year.
They act like they haven't been in office.
Like they've just, like, he just walked into the Department of Transportation today.
And so he just, you know, the blame is, like, we're spending the money or Americans think we're spending the money on infrastructure, but it's not going to the infrastructure, obviously, that we need to get up to speed.
And then you see this horrendous action.
And this move, even FIBA has said, it's not us.
Don't come knocking our door.
We don't handle these kinds of situations.
Yeah, you know, Jordan, that's exactly the point is they're not taking responsibility for this.
They come and spend our taxpayer dollars on this trillion-dollar infrastructure bill and meanwhile are not actually addressing the real infrastructure problems that we're facing in this country.
And unfortunately, the catastrophe in East Palestine is getting a lot of attention.
There was another train derailment in Michigan yesterday that also was carrying toxins.
They were able to turn the rail car right side up again after it went off the tracks without any damage, at least that we know of at this point.
But the point is, to your listeners right now, Americans across the country are starting to think, well, hey, where's the nearest train tracks in my neighborhood?
What risk is me and my family, my kids, my loved ones at next time there are trains, as they do, running across this country when you have the corporate leaders like Norfolk Southern who are completely abdicating their direct responsibility for this catastrophe.
And of course, our federal government leaders in the Biden administration who are doing the same.
They don't care.
They are not investing in the kinds of technology and safety mechanisms necessary so that those who do live near these train tracks can sleep peacefully at night, knowing they're not being put at risk.
But the root cause of this is they don't care.
They care about themselves, political ambition, their own enrichment, but they do not care about the American people.
And that's where we have to demand more and get these people out of office.
We have heard, and I have not verified this independently, we've heard that Norfolk Southern has sent out $1,000 checks to individuals within the zip codes that are being impacted by this.
Let me just give some free legal advice, which, you know, I've done a couple of cases here and there, like a lot of them, and including at the Supreme Court multiple times.
If they're offering you $1,000, I wouldn't be cashing that check.
But that's tough for a lot of those.
I know it is.
There are lawyers and law firms that would do this.
Yes.
Represent these people.
You know what Norfolk Southern came back?
Because some of them said, by the way, when you cash this check, you can't hold us a release.
Right.
For anything.
You can no longer bring any actions related to this incident.
Their new response is they got the wrong letter.
So they got caught.
And they said, these people got the wrong letter.
This was about letting us own your property to do that.
They got caught.
See, what I mean is they're getting caught.
We live in a social media age now.
These big companies who take things to get away with.
We see that our own family.
I have a grandfather who worked at a plant.
They thought you could just pay it off in such a small amount.
And they didn't go to attorneys at that time, but it could have been worth millions even back in the day.
Tulsi, when I look at the situation, what I call the government dysfunction, and we talk about it in the horrible situation with this toxic train derailment.
We talk about it with what's happening on the airlines and the cancellations.
And then China launches a spy balloon that the United States knew it was launched, our government, tracked it, went throughout the entire, traversed the entire United States over our military bases, including your home state of Hawaii.
And here's what's so fascinating to me.
The head of NORAD, and I'm not blaming him because I'm sure this is the information they gave him.
The head of NORAD says we've had domain gaps in our ability to track this, which ended up not being true because they did track it.
So we shoot this one down after it's done all its spying over the coast of South Carolina.
And then we shot three Snoopy balloons or whatever they were down this over the weekend last weekend.
This is, to me, this is absurd.
Now, you were in the military.
You've served a long time.
I don't get what they're possibly thinking.
And this is dangerous for the American people.
Without a doubt.
And you know what links kind of all of these things together, Jay, is don't forget what we've recently learned now that they shot those other unidentified flying objects down with a $450,000 missile each time.
And oh, by the way, they missed one one time, so they had to shoot at it again.
You look at the over trillion dollars that they claim that they're putting forward towards infrastructure.
Meanwhile, our infrastructure is crumbling.
This is dysfunction.
This is a failure of leadership.
And ultimately, it comes down to those who are short-sighted, who are not making decisions based on the best interest of the American people in our country.
We look at the Department of Defense budget, for example.
We look at, yes, I still serve.
I'm a lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserves.
I'm hitting close to my 20-year time in service anniversary in April.
And I recognize very well the need to have a strong military to defend our country.
But you look at how they're spending our money.
Where are they spending it?
How are they wasting it without any accountability and doing so in many cases in ways that actually undermine our own national security?
And that's something that should piss off every American.
You know, I was thinking about the $400,000 missile that we're launching.
And again, I mean, the military, the pilots are being, they're doing what they're told.
They got an order, take it down.
And I'm thinking about this.
We know that it costs more than $400,000 because you got an F-22, which is an expensive aircraft.
And listen, it's still dangerous.
Anytime they're flying at mock who knows what, you know, going towards an object, things can happen.
Unfortunately, you know, nobody got hurt, but the military trains for this.
But this was the first time, Tulsi, we deployed missiles from an aircraft inside the continental United States.
And it was after, it looks like it was the Illinois, you know, Northern Illinois Bottle Cap Balloon Brigade said their balloon went down about that time.
I mean, you could laugh about it, but you could also cry about it.
I mean, it's preposterous that this is the intelligence we had.
I can't, Rick Rinnell's coming on here later.
I want to talk to him about this because to me, Tulsi, and like I said, you're in the military, Lieutenant Colonel.
How is this possible what this was?
And this is what's interesting too, Jay, is you're saying that this is based on the intelligence that we have.
We're hearing Washington Post, I think, reported yesterday, amongst other many other news sources, that there is an unnamed intelligence official who's now reporting that, yes, they were tracking the first big balloon ever since it launched from Hainan as it drifted down towards the South Pacific, towards Guam and Hawaii.
But then they are assessing that it was likely strong winds that started pushing it towards the mainland and they lost control.
Anyway, the point here is that there is new information coming out.
This information is being routinely dismissed by the State Department and U.S. Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, which point to what is the agenda that people have.
Is there a disconnect between the intelligence agencies and the military and the White House?
Are they dismissing information that isn't convenient for whatever their objective may be?
The truth matters.
We need strong leaders who can make the best informed decisions on the best interest of our country, not based on an emotional knee-jerk reaction or out of concern of what a headline may say about them.
Tulsi, if people, and I encourage people to watch your podcast, I think it's great.
Where's the best place for people to go to get great information about what you're doing?
You can follow me on all social media channels at Tulsi Gabbard.
You can follow me and subscribe.
I encourage you to subscribe on YouTube, again, at Tulsi Gabbard.
I'm taking on a lot of issues like the ones we're talking about here and trying to shine a light of the truth and common sense on this insanity that surrounds us.
Like I said, we're thrilled that you're with us.
We've been, like I said, we've been friends and friends of your family for a long time, and it's great having you on.
We appreciate your insights and outlook on all of this.
I have to say something here.
I mean, these are common sense principles.
That when John Kirby starts talking to them, Admiral Kirby starts talking about, you know, we're going to come up with core principles.
They need to be listening to people that actually know what core principles mean.
Yes.
And they should have been done.
I mean, how do we not have core principles set up?
Because these balloons that we shot down now over the weekend, if we believe them, we believe Kirby and Biden now have people have been doing this for years.
This is not new technology.
And they decided to shoot these down.
You needed core principles before that.
These had no, you realize there was no connection between these three incidents and the Chinese balloon.
They want you to put this all together and say, oh, see, we get tougher and tougher as we got used to this Chinese spy balloon.
No, as Tulsi said, and as we've talked about too, they tracked that balloon from the moment it launched, and they wouldn't shoot it down when it was over the water of the West Coast, when it was over coming up to Hawaii's border as well, could have gotten rid of it very early on then, but they didn't take action.
And they shot down three more balloons, try to make them look tough that have nothing to do with spy programs and pose no risk to the public or military.
You know, we got more with the Sean Hannity show coming right up.
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Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
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We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Sean Hannity show.
J. Seculo, Jordan Seculo, sitting in for Sean.
Head up an organization called the American Center for Law and Justice, ACLJ, which a lot of you joined, I have to say, last week, and we appreciate that.
And many of you are joining today as well at ACLJ.org.
We talked to you a little bit about that victory we had against the National Archives.
We'll get more into that.
But there was another case that was going on in Washington, D.C., with all this discussions about China and the balloon, the spy balloon coming over the United States, traversing the entire country.
Our friend, who's been a friend and a client of the ACLJ's for four decades, Pat Mahoney, is with us on the program.
Pat, you've done, I can't, hundreds, probably thousands at this point, of civil protests all over the country, of course, a lot in Washington, D.C. Tell folks what was going on because, folks, this is unbelievable.
If you mentioned the Chinese government at their embassy, telling the Secret Service that public sidewalks are theirs instead of the United States.
And the Secret Service initially saying, yes, it is.
But I want Pat to set the stage.
Welcome to the broadcast, Pat, but tell everybody what you were doing out there.
Sure, Jay.
First of all, thank you so much for having me on the program.
So we scheduled an event, a peaceful demonstration at the event at the Chinese embassy, which I'm going to say conservatively, we've had 75 over the past 10 years.
It was, the name of the event was No to Spying, Yes to Freedom in China.
And we did something kind of creative.
We got these helium balloons about two feet in diameter.
We had two of them.
And we were going in front of the Chinese embassy to confront them and challenge them on their violation of international and American airspace.
I need to say, Pat, by the way, that size balloon now could be shot down by the United States military, so don't let it go.
But go ahead, tell us what happened.
Jay and Jordan, I got to tell you, when I got out of the car, I was just hoping I would make it to the front of the embassy with the balloons attacked.
But anyway, so as I always do, I go talk to law enforcement before we do the event, introduce myself, say what we're going to do.
And I was a little bit surprised when I got there.
There were several Secret Service cars parked in the road in front of the Chinese embassy, several motorcycles and Metropolitan D.C. police.
And Jay, what happened next?
I have to say, you and I often say we should never say, I can't believe this happened.
But it happened for the first time in my 46 years of public ministry.
I went to the Secret Service.
I said, we're going to peacefully demonstrate, as we have for many times here.
The Secret Service said to me, Reverend Mahoney, you can't demonstrate there.
If you do, you will be arrested.
We were talking with.
Okay, we got to stop right there.
Stop for a second, Pat, because I want to set the stage here.
And one of our senior counselors, the ACLJ, former Assistant U.S. Attorney and head of the criminal division for the Department of Justice in the good old days, Andy Conamo, was with us.
And Andy, just setting up what Pat just said, he's on a public sidewalk that the Chinese government is claiming is China's.
Right, and it is not Chinese.
A public sidewalk is a public forum, a traditional public forum.
It belongs to the people of the United States or the municipality.
And Reverend Mahoney had every right to be there to peacefully protest as long as he was doing it consistent with what the local ordinances are.
He has, he has always done so.
And so the Secret Service had no business telling him, we represent the Chinese.
They own it.
You can't be on this side of the world.
So, Pat, for people that are listening into John's program here that may not have known, the Secret Service, and I have a lot of respect for the Secret Service.
They do a great job, but obviously they're being, you know, getting mixed signals.
What did the Secret Service agent or officer actually tell you about where you were and whose property it was?
So they told me on the public sidewalk, which is right in front of the main embassy, that that was not public, that that was, and I'm quoting him now directly, Chinese property, that because of the balloon shootdown, there has been a lot of tension and in relationships.
They had meetings with embassy officials, and the Secret Service was telling me if I went onto that public sidewalk where I have been at least 75 times in the past before peacefully demonstrating, I would be arrested because it was not American property.
It was Chinese property.
And I could not believe the United States Secret Service, who I deeply respect also, were being guided, intimidated, and bullied by the Chinese government.
Well, unfortunately, Pat, it is believable because it happened.
And what's happening is the sensitivity of this situation have gotten to the point.
First of all, the Chinese government, we had on Christine Ohm, governor of South Dakota, who we've represented also, who's trying to stop this acquisition of property.
But, Jordan, to me, the irony of this is Pat is standing on public property, Washington, D.C., owned by the American people, open for free speech.
We've argued those cases for four decades at the Supreme Court.
We've never lost.
We've won them unanimously.
9-0 in the Jews for Jesus case.
I can go through list after list after list of free speech access cases we've won.
Yet, the Secret Service gets the word from the Chinese Communist Party's embassy, because that's what it is, and they say, hey, this is China's property, as if that was the edict.
After years of having no issue doing a peaceful protest on that public sidewalk, and it took, I think you had to bring it like a sergeant to get this response pointed out.
To me, this is the absurdity, is that they defer to the Chinese Communist Party on public protest.
I mean, think about that for a minute.
This is a country, literally, this is not funny, but they are engaged in a genocide.
There is no freedom of speech, and they will mow you down with a tank, as they literally have done.
On a public forum.
And they are going to tell American police, security, anybody about what's public.
They don't, like you said, mindset very important.
Yes.
Understanding where the Chinese Communist Party is when they say China first.
President Trump was talking about the time.
He knew going into meetings with them.
That's what their mindset was.
Was China first.
They're going to assert to the police that's our sidewalk because they don't even understand the concept.
Nor do the folks in D.C., their embassy staff, of freedom of speech.
No, they don't know freedom of speech.
It doesn't make any sense.
But you know, here's the other thing.
So we talked about, Andy, that this is a public sidewalk.
It's a public forum.
But what Pat was engaged in, holding a sign passively, flying the balloon, which made the point very clear, you know, no spying, but how about human rights?
That is pristine First Amendment protected speech.
There is nothing more publicly protected speech than what Reverend Mahoney was doing.
Absolutely nothing.
And what bothers me is to paraphrase what Jordan was saying, instead of taking up the position of an American citizen, that we have a First Amendment in this country and we have the right to peacefully protest, the Secret Service agent takes the position of the Chinese Communist Party and says, no, this is Chinese property.
You got to get off of here.
You're not allowed to protest.
And they got this information, Pat, apparently, from the Chinese Communist Party's embassy, correct?
Yeah, that's what they told me.
And then, Jay, right now, I have dear friends who are imprisoned in Hong Kong for two years without even a trial date set for ordering, for organizing peaceful demonstrations.
And I was polite.
I respect authority.
I'm a Christian.
But I said, I will not be bullied or intimidated.
I had the same tone.
I am going over onto that sidewalk.
If you choose to arrest me, fine, but it's a public sidewalk.
And I want to tell all the listeners, Jay, I was talking to you earlier.
One would think that in a situation like this, when I was expected to get arrested, I called my wife first.
But no, I called the person who I know could probably get me out of jail.
I called Jay.
I'm on the sidewalk.
I'm expected to be arrested.
And right in the middle of it, I called Jay.
Also, there was a fun part where I moved my car.
It was in a parking lot.
I said, if I'm going to get arrested, I better move my car because the Chinese government will tow it.
I'll meet you.
Yeah, you know, this is the part that's so absurd.
I'm glad we can help, by the way.
I was on the air on our broadcast when this is a letter off to the officials here at the Secret Service so that they understand that this is protected speech in a protected public place, public forum.
But you did get allowed to engage in the protests because eventually a more senior Secret Service official came.
Is that correct?
Yeah, a captain.
But Jay, here's the issue.
I'm a seasoned activist.
For the listeners on the show, I've been arrested 112 times, but all for good things like Congressman Lewis might say, good trouble.
But 99% of all Americans, when they saw armed Secret Service agents telling them they will be arrested for going on that sidewalk, they would have left.
I mean, I shudder to think the kind of chilling effect.
I shudder to think of all the people who went to demonstrate peacefully at the Chinese embassy two days before or two days from now.
That's why I'm so excited.
I'm glad.
Here's the thing that's good, though, Pat.
You did it.
You knew what your rights were.
We stood up and we won and we got a result.
Now, we are, like I said, we're in communication with the Secret Service on this because it's important.
Pat Mahoney, if folks want to follow what Pat's doing, go to Reverend Pat Mahoney on all of your social media apps.
Pat, thanks for being with us.
Jordan, here's the thing.
You take a look at the case involving Pat Mahoney at the Chinese embassy where the Chinese say, oh, that's our property, even though it's U.S. property.
Or the National Archives who can't find, like I said, they can't find top secret documents with former presidents, but they can target a student that says we're the pro-life generation.
But in all of those situations, we went to court at the ACLJ and won.
Yeah, we won.
We got an injunction against the National Archives.
And I want to say that's not it, our National Archives.
That's just beginning to make sure that anyone in a similar situation can visit that museum without fear of being targeted and harassed.
We've got damages, discovery to do, mediation to do.
And that's just the archives case.
And the Smithsonian case has not reached that point yet.
We've notified them about what the National Archives have done, which National Archives admitted to everything that we alleged.
Yes.
And the injunction, Andy, for our audience means they can't stop that activity, the students wearing their attire that has pro-life messages on it.
That's right.
A U.S. district judge has said you've got to let them wear their attire, make their public statement in the National Archives, peacefully as they do.
And the ACLJ will go to court if it has to go to court.
As a client of mine, the old Secretary of the State of Georgia used to say, I said, Mr. Fortson, we got to go to court.
He said, if you've got to go to court, go to court.
Well, that's what we did.
And I'll tell you something, folks.
It makes a difference.
And, you know, on all these issues, by the way, our organization, ACLJ, and we have a broadcast also at noon Eastern Time called Seculo.
And Jordan and Logan, Jordan's brother, has a podcast called Seculo Brothers, which is both informative and hysterical at the same time.
You've got to check that out at Seculo.
Where's the best place?
Seculobrothers.com?
Yeah, you go to secularbrothers.com.
You find out all the different places to watch or listen.
Again, if you're interested in the work that we do at aclj.org is the best way to get information about the American Center for Law and Justice.
And again, I want to say a huge thank you to Sean's team, to Linda, to Sean.
We got on here last week 500 new members of the ACLJ, just one radio broadcast, over 500 actually, which is phenomenal for us.
And I want to say thank you again.
And we're doing that again this week.
We have a matching moment, which means if you make a donation to the ACLJ, not only is it tax deductible, but the other thing that's important here is you become a member of the ACLJ.
We can go then and fight, and we get a matching gift to match it.
So you could do that by going to aclj.org.
That's aclj.org.
One of our colleagues from the American Center for Law and Justice Rick Rinnell, former acting director of the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, is going to be with us.
I want to talk to him about what's going on in the intelligence world, which is confusing to say the least.
They called it domain gaps when the Chinese flew their balloon over, but we actually didn't have a gap.
We knew exactly where it was.
We're going to get into all of that when we come back.
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This is Jordan Secular with ACLJ.
We appreciate Sean allowing us to host the broadcast today.
You know, we were talking about our podcast, Seculo Brothers podcast doing my brother Logan.
We spent a lot of time yesterday on Don Libbett, who was not on CNN today.
He took the day off.
He took a day off.
He was actually spotted at Miami Beach.
So I guess he flew down to the beach knowing he would likely not be.
I guess he planned that very quickly after he realized I probably won't be on the air the next day.
Had to apologize to the staff.
Didn't apologize to Nikki Haley yet, by the way, directly.
Let's tell everybody again what he did to Nikki Haley, which was out of prime.
That women are out of their prime, at least after their 40s.
Could you imagine?
First of all, we Googled that.
Not only would Google that.
We could Google that.
It's not clear that this is not clear.
And by the way, if you Google it for mid, it says about the same thing.
I mean, this, it's again, it's talking about, again, you're talking about having children.
First of all, it's just wrong.
It's disgusting.
He has to see.
It's Don Libbon's War on Women with CNID's backing.
It's CNID's War on Women.
Because if he was at work in any place else, you think he's going to be working there?
No, he would not be.
Now, let me tell you something.
I got a little experience with Don Lemon on air.
Not pleasant.
I have done, listen, you represent a president.
You get interviews that are tough.
And I did plenty of them on CNN and MSNBC and everywhere else.
Don Lemon, I will say, was the only one that personalized the attacks.
Yes.
Well, that's his whole thing.
I mean, he's personally attacking his co-host.
He personally attacked Nikki Haley.
We've had strong homes on the broadcast.
I know Kitty States who are leading in our military.
We had Christy Dobod, Tulsi Gabbard.
People like Nikki Haley, who we know are friends as well.
These are strong folks, regardless of the mad woman.
They're strong people.
Yeah, but you know, he went, Caitlin Collins, who's their main White House correspondent, and then the other co-host is Hobby Hall.
What are they?
I mean, I know they've been pretty silent.
I mean, the media has said one of them left the set.
Yeah, upset.
But it is amazing that they got away with this.
I'm surprised they're not calling out right there saying you wouldn't apologize.
Get him out of here.
Yeah.
Listen, I believe in free speech, but you know what?
When you're on a broadcast, he's not fired.
It is CNN's World Women.
It is CNN's World Women.
I think we gotta.
I think that's what we're gonna call it.
Could you imagine if somebody did it in a conservative network, which would not be willing to do it because they'd be fired?
The network would take care of it immediately.
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