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Tonight on Hannity 9 Eastern, we will have the Memphis videotape.
I go back, and this is in the case of Tyree Nichols.
The police chief says that these acts of these five officers against him, And again, I'm going by what people are saying.
Now that we have the Paul Pelosi tape, it is not exactly as it was reported, and there had been conflicting reports if you recall, that this defies acts of humanity, what we'll see tonight.
Unexplainable aggression by Memphis police against Tyree Nichols.
Tyree Nichols case shows that law enforcement issues aren't about race, but bias is on the table.
Tyree Nichols's mother describing her son's body when she saw him in the hospital.
We've all seen that image, that picture.
And and it's it's it's beyond any comprehension I have.
Um and anyway, the Memphis uh officers uh, you know, we'll we'll see this tape tonight.
And it sounds by by every account so far that we've heard, and I I am withholding that judgment, this is gonna be bad tonight.
Now, how people react to this, everyone is predicting the worst.
I hope it's not gonna be the case, but you have to be on alert that it might be the case, that the potential for this to you know be the summer of 2020, uh, could be tonight, uh, maybe in in other cities across the country.
I know the guards been called up in Atlanta, etc.
etc.
Uh, the one tape that we have now been able to see is the Paul Pelosi tape, the body cam video is out, the 911 call is out.
There is also a surveillance video that came out.
It's the strangest thing, the guy that attacked Paul Pelosi, you know, he's literally banging it looks like on the door with the hammer to try and break into the house.
Um, so not much to say about that.
Um let's go to the moment.
Now, Paul Pelosi, it is clear, is speaking in in code to a 911 operator, and it's clear that he's on speaker, and it's clear that the soon-to-be assailant uh is listening and answering and uh saying he's a friend of the family.
And remember, go back to the reporting of the time.
It was that he said that uh, well, we we read that he had said uh based on Nancy Pelosi's answers when she got home, he would decide whether or not uh she was gonna be attacked or not.
Uh so you know, Paul Pelosi's in a tough spot with the 911 call.
Um he's an older gentleman, obviously doesn't have the means to defend himself, and you can see that in the video.
And even when the police come in, he has to act like everything's cool, and this guy has a hammer in his hand, and towards the end, put that hammer down, and that's when he attacks Paul Pelosi and hits him in the head.
The police acted immediately.
Uh, but anyway, here is the body cam audio of the police officers as this was unfolding.
How are you doing?
What's going on, man?
It's good.
Drop the hammers.
Um back up country.
Give me your f***ing hand!
Give me your f***ing hand!
What is wrong with reporting now?
I mean, just uh chilling when you when you watch all this unfold here to give their take on this.
Mark Simone, he is the host of the number one morning show on our affiliate New York AM 710, W O R and Betsy McCoy is with us, uh, former Lieutenant Governor of New York, uh, and uh welcome back both of you.
Mark Simone, as I as I look at this tape again and again and again, uh it just reinforces to me, and I tell people, and uh remember Paul Pelosi was a victim here.
Uh he was attacked, uh clearly not provoked in any way, but um, you know, the need to figure out some method by which you you have an ability to defend yourself if if God forbid you find yourself in a similar situation.
What was your take?
Well, it's a very frightened Paul Pelosi that opens the door, the uh nut has his arm around Pelosi's arm holding him.
The biggest mystery here is the guy's obviously just a lunatic.
Why did he allow him to call 911?
And it's on a speakerphone, he's hearing this conversation.
I don't know why he didn't grab the phone away and say everything's fine, we're okay here.
Uh so why you allowed that car call?
I'll never understand.
Thank goodness for that 911 operator knew something was wrong.
Sent the police.
Uh and she sent them on a hunch because she because she was asking very specific questions.
Are you in danger?
But the assailant is right next to him, he can't say, Yes, I'm in danger, come down here.
And the cops got there in less than two minutes.
You can't have a better response in two minutes.
Yeah, and it must have been the name Pelosi that caused that then just an unknown name.
Who knows what would have happened.
But I didn't get the sense at all that the 911 operator knew that the name Pelosi.
I didn't get that sense, did you?
Uh she might have been uh confused enough to ask somebody, and then somebody else is supervisor, somebody must have told her.
Right.
Well, actually, Paul Pelosi said to the operator, identified now as Heather Grimes, is the Capitol police around?
They're usually here at the house protecting my wife, so that he did indicate who he was that way to the to the operator.
Yeah, he definitely was speaking in code, Betsy.
I agree completely.
And I'm not sure if the operator, and this is not a criticism.
She did the right thing just out of an abundance of caution, she sent the police.
But you could tell she wasn't quite sure if this was really an emergency.
Frankly, he's alive today because everybody except the hammer wielder did the right thing.
Yeah, that's really well said.
I I agree with you too.
Um, and then that raises the question, I mean, i the video, the surveillance video, Mark, what did you think of the the beating in the back of that door like that?
And then when the cops says put the hammer down, that's when the attack happened.
Now, again, a very different w we were told very different things.
We were reading very different things.
Oh, that may he very nonchalantly said, Oh, come on in, guys.
And that that was not the situation at all.
In a sense, he was like a hostage, you know, in a bank and the guy has a gun and he knows the guy's got a gun, and it's so his he's got handcuffs on his mouth, he can't speak.
He was a hostage.
Yeah, that's true.
He was.
But you also got to wonder how you could be Speaker of the House.
You're second in line for the presidency.
Uh, after the president, uh you have one of the most powerful people in the world.
Why there wouldn't be a guard on that house, why you wouldn't have better security on your home.
That that's the most shocking part.
That that is a good point, Mark.
I'm stunned.
Me too.
That makes three of us.
And and you know what I don't understand, and this was what was frustrating because the nine, I'm sorry, the Jan 6 committee got politicized.
They never got to the heart of how do we ever prevent this from happening again?
They never brought in the Capitol Police Chief.
They never brought in the sergeant at arms.
They never got Pelosi's texts, emails, phone calls at that time.
She's in charge of security.
They never got Muriel Bowser, you know, asking, well, why didn't you uh why did you reject in writing any National Guard uh being called up?
Uh they they we now found out they had a lot of intelligence ahead of time, but if it wasn't politicized, they might have asked those questions to to take measures to prevent it from ever happening again, and even still, I think the answer is due exactly to the Capitol, what we've done with the White House, and that is you cordon off the area and you have a point of entry and make it impenetrable in terms of uh you know it encompassing the entire the entire Capitol.
That's my take.
Well, I think that it's even clearer than that, Sean, that Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats pointedly directed the investigation away from why the Capitol was insufficiently guarded and why the Capitol Police and other law enforcement did not respond in a more timely way.
It's as if she was facilitating the attack.
What did well I'm you're talking about on January sixth.
I'm just saying if we i look, they could have politicized it as much as they want.
Fine.
They wanted a bludgeon Trump.
That was obvious.
When they kept when they kept Jim Jordan and Jim Banks off the committee, it was clear that this had a political agenda.
But while they were doing that part, they also had an obligation to do the other part, and they wanted no part of that.
Uh because the intelligence, according to all reports, Mark Simone, they had information in the weeks leading up to January sixth that people were plotting and planning and scheming, you know, something for that day.
Yeah.
Nobody remembers May of twenty twenty.
Antifa, rioters, protesters, hundreds of thousands tried to go to the White House and come over that fence.
Donald Trump had military, the Secret Service, and it was a big battle.
Sixty Secret Servicemen and women went to the hospital that night.
So uh he saved the the White House that night.
You remember the Lincoln Memorial was to be uh the target of a big protest.
And there's that famous picture you can find it online of military surrounding the Lincoln Memorial.
They saved it that night.
And I don't know why the uh the Capitol and Pelosi and company didn't learn their lesson from those two incidents.
Yeah, I mean that that's the point.
All right, quick break more with Betsy McCoy and Mark Simone, then your call's coming up 800-941 Sean.
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All right, our final moments with Betsy McCoy and Mark Simone.
Uh later we'll check in with Leo 2.0 Torrell on this on both these issues, Memphis, uh, and of course, uh the Pelosi tape that was released earlier today.
We'll get to your calls also when we get back, 800-941 Sean, uh, but we continue with Mark Simone and Betsy McCoy.
Let's let's shift gears a little bit.
Um we're gonna have this tape released.
Everybody that has spoken publicly about it, from the family to the lawyers to the Memphis police chief are all since uh the fact that they they were charged immediately with second degree murder.
I have to assume Betsy was based solely on the viewing of these police camera quarters that they have.
Well, that's right, and of course, seeing the victim himself.
Uh I'm I'm a very strong supporter of the men in blue men and women in blue, but in this instance, it does appear, just an appearance so far, that these folks Well, it appears based on the statement of those people that have seen it, we haven't seen it.
That's right.
We have not seen it.
But you know, five five bad cops does not make uh all the cops in the United States bad, and I know that there are many cops out there today who certainly wish that it this had not happened.
What do you think we're gonna see in Memphis and around the country tonight, Mark Simone, if it's as bad as people say?
I mean, I know many cities are bracing for the worst, as they should.
They should be prepared.
Uh I know in Atlanta, for example, they called up the National Guard.
I applaud the governor for that, especially in light of what happened a couple of weekends ago.
Yeah, well, when Joe Biden urges calm, I get nervous.
But uh, you know, listen, there's some still some bad cops out there, but it's the good news is it's one percent of one percent.
Very few.
And there's no racial element here.
Everybody involved, the victims, the accused, the commissioner, they're all the same race, so there's not a racial element.
But I I hate to picture Democrats the committee, whoever runs this White House plotting right now, uh, how to take advantage of this, how to politicize this, who knows.
But everybody should be ongoing.
Well, how do you politicize this?
I mean, the the problem is if you go back to the summer of 2020, we had five hundred and seventy-four riots, thousands of injured cops, dozens of dead Americans, and billions in property damage, and nobody wanted to even call these these riots what they were riots.
And then you have people like Kamala Harris even going a step further and and tweeting out the bail fund after the guy, you know, burned down the police precinct.
And but Mark is right.
It's a cynical prediction, but probably an apt prediction that the Democratic Party will use this as an excuse for more defund the police, disarm the police, eliminate the police.
Just the opposite of what people of all colors, but particularly disadvantaged groups, uh uh need.
They need law enforcement.
They need protection in their neighborhoods.
Yeah, I think that's a a lot of it.
Um anyway, we can only hope and pray that you know, people if they're gonna protest that they'll be peaceful.
Um the confidence that I have after the summer of twenty twenty is not high.
And I'm not sure where this is headed.
And you know, you know, pray for the country tonight, Mark Simone.
I I don't know what's gonna happen.
It doesn't sound good, it doesn't look good.
Um, and if it's as bad as people are saying, uh anything could happen.
Yeah, and I again Democrats like to exploit things also.
The Black Lives Matter leaders have a bunch of mansions now.
You never know who's looking at that, wanting to start a new group trying to cash in on this.
So yeah, everybody's gonna be careful.
Well, Black Lives Matter, are they gonna be involved in this protest that uh or is this only Black Lives Matter when the the race of the the police officers happens to be different?
Yeah.
Well, the concern is another new wannabe Al Sharpton or Black Lives Matter coming along and trying to exploit this.
Uh uh everybody's gonna be on guard.
All of them.
What do you think what we're expecting tonight, uh, Betsy McCoy?
Well, I I agree with you that it could be bad, but I don't want to predict that it's gonna be bad because the fact is the people who suffer most when we have these race riots, they're not the wealthy people in the suburbs.
It's people struggling to open a business, it's people living in low income areas, uh it's people who depend on public transportation in the inner cities.
They're the ones who s who suffer the most when we have these burned burned down neighborhoods, and I hope it does not happen.
All right.
Well, we appreciate your time.
Both of you, Mark Simone, thank you.
Betsy McCoy.
Always appreciate having you both on the uh program.
Have a good weekend.
And uh we'll be watching tonight.
We'll be live on Hannity tonight, nine Eastern.
We'll have the very latest on all of this.
Uh Friday.
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Uh the tapes in Memphis not expected to be released until about 7 p.m.
Eastern.
Well, I'm not sure why they would have released this on a Friday night heading into a weekend.
Not exactly in my view, the most prudent time to do so.
Uh, but that's the choice, the decision that they have made.
And uh so we'll have full coverage of this.
Many cities are bracing for possible unrest tonight.
We hope that's not the case.
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Patty is in Illinois.
Patty, glad you called.
Thanks for checking in.
I would say happy Friday, but I'm not that happy.
I agree with you, Sean, and I haven't got to talk with you yet this year, so happy new year to you.
I hope you're doing well.
I love your show.
Happy New Year.
Thank you.
I'm you I couldn't do this without your help.
Well, um, like you said, not seems like not too happy of a Friday and with everything, you know, out and then what's to come tonight, that's kind of scary.
Um, but to talk about what you guys were talking about earlier with Paul Pelosi, the tape and the 911 calls, my jaw dropped, literally.
Um you know, again, when he first was hurt and this first came out, my heart, you know, prayers went out to the family.
No one wants anyone to be hurt like that.
But from what I looked at, he looked like he was in duress.
The calls, I agree with what you were saying earlier, definitely talking in code.
My question is uh again, we're always seeming to learn these things after the fact.
Why wasn't there a some type of dispatch that told them right away that hey, this is a high profile, you know, and again, you can't blame every 911 operator.
They're they're not sure I give her the person a lot of credit for sending someone out there, but I was just totally shocked by it all.
Uh I would agree with you.
You would think you know, the the second in line to the presidency, and I had said this before, I think every speaker should have uh uh full time security, and that should include constant security at their house.
Uh, even if it's just one or two officers, it's it just seems to make sense to me, and it's unfathomable that she didn't have it.
Now, one of the reasons the speaker, you know, we would we we chronicled the fact that she would take a government jet to and from San Francisco all the time.
So if you've taken that expense, that level of expense for travel for her, and they do travel, Congressmen and women back and forth a lot from their districts to Washington, and she's going in a in a government paid for private jet, um, which I'm not against at all.
I think is just prudent and smart.
We've seen incidences, you know, Mitt Romney being basically harassed in a in a terminal at an airport.
Uh, I've had similar experiences at times myself in my life.
People are painted the you know what.
And in this case, uh Ted Cruz has gone through it and a lot of Lindsey Graham's gone through all of them.
And you know what?
If I see a liberal politician or a liberal commentator in an airport, I'm gonna say, Hey, how are you?
How's everything?
That's it.
Leave people alone.
Yeah, and and and now in this day and age, and it's sad, you know.
I still believe in the goodness and humanity of people.
I know it's out there.
I see it.
I I've witnessed it myself, but at the same time, we know that there's bad actors out there.
So I think that uh again, um, I'm a conservative.
Um I vote Republican.
I try to always vote my values of what I feel, my beliefs.
I'm not saying that, you know, the Democrats are they're all you know wrong, but their policies don't align with mine.
But that being said, I wouldn't want to wish any harm or wrong on anybody, and I agree with you.
I think that we need to have protection for the speaker.
We need to have protection that helps keep people safe, especially when like you said, you know, two heartbeats away from being the president.
Um I'm just shocked over the the video.
Uh uh it just it my jaw literally dropped.
And and then with tonight, Sean, I I'm gonna be saying prayers.
I know you're a Christian.
I know you pray um every day.
I'm praying for peace.
I am praying for peace.
And for the family of Kyrie, uh, I my heart goes out to him, but I'm really saddened.
That picture of that young man in that hospital, but if that doesn't break your heart, you don't have a heart.
And that that Can't happen when you have five five police.
You know, uh anyway, thank you for a very thoughtful call.
I could tell Patty have a heart of goal.
God bless you, and and have a great weekend, and I hope your prayers and our prayers are answered that nothing comes out of this.
Um you can't look at that picture of that young man and say that this is you know on the surface.
How did it come to this?
Nobody ever made an accusation.
And now, if he had had a pistol, if he was armed, if they were in the middle of trying to disarm him, and there was that kind of that didn't happen here.
Nobody is claimed that that's happened here.
But everybody that has spoken about this Memphis tape is all saying the same thing.
Um so we'll see tonight, unfortunately.
Um it doesn't sound good at all.
Uh big time AJ Houston, Texas.
How are you, big time?
Big time Sean Hannity here.
Hey.
Hey, by the way, your city of Houston, and you know I love Houston, and you know my niece lives in Houston, and um I couldn't believe it.
It was voted the dirtiest city in America.
I mean, what's up with that?
Well, Sean New Jersey was second.
Hey, hey, you can't believe everything you hear on these downcomes.
I'm just uh I read the article, I'm just telling you.
I don't know if it is or not.
They're blaming refineries for it, so it's probably some climate alarmist cult propaganda, but who knows?
You already know, Sean.
You already know.
So because I live here and uh I think it's a beautiful, we got a beautiful city, even though we got a few bombs out there and everything that got stuff a little bit.
Yeah, but we got great Americans like big time AJ in Houston.
You know what?
That makes uh that raises the bar in my mind.
Yes, sir.
Hey, but Sean, let me tell you, I actually brother say, here we go again.
And you know, my heart breaks for the when I looked at the picture of the fella in there, and um Nancy Pelosi now, my ramble, and Nancy Pelosi now uh that they house should be protected like them documents that Biden's house should have been not there.
But at the same time, don't underestimate the Democrats to use this as to get us off of what Joe Biden and them and they have done to us for the last what going on three years now to this country.
And this is why all these people are in such a crazy mold.
We've seen some crazy stuff in these last two years because of the policy, the borders are wide open.
Everybody is lawlessness going on.
Everything is done, and the Democrats that run these cities, they don't do nothing to stop everything.
Now, as I always say, Sean Rick, we know everybody, I'm gonna tell y'all.
When you get stopped by the police, comply.
And do the first step of complying, and then if them somebody do the crazy crap after you'll be able to get a lawyer and do your but don't give these people a reason to do other actions after the first action.
Just comply, people.
That's all, and just hopefully.
But it don't stop for what this what we see in that that young fella in that hospital.
I'm hoping, Sean, that I didn't I hope this video don't show what I think it's gonna show if everybody's saying what you're saying.
Sean, if that's the case, it is really something going on bad in this country.
And we sh me and you live this long life.
We didn't live this life to see this.
And we didn't our troops and all them didn't die to make America the most greatest country in the world for us to come out like this.
This is unbelievable.
But I hope the media don't do the persecution until we find out like you always say, let's find, let's see it, let's find out the facts, and hope justice be done if the if the situation because they've I i I just don't want I'm not gonna say until I see the video.
I'm gonna put it that way, Sean.
I'm not gonna do what the media do override things.
I'm gonna wait and see it.
Well, it's not just the media.
When when you have the police acting as quickly as they did upon seeing the video, the the body cam video, and the police chief saying what she had to say, and everybody else that's he has seen this saying the same thing that it defies humanity and it's really that bad.
Uh I I don't know what what what could possibly be going through these officers' minds.
The police that I know people in law enforcement that I know are not like what they're describing.
They're just not.
And I'm not saying they're not that they're not guilty.
If I'm listening to everybody so far, there's not been a single exception of anybody that's seen this video.
There's no contradictions here.
Everybody seems to be in full agreement is going to be really bad tonight when we see this thing.
And I I know people's emotions are going to be running high, but you know I would ask all the people in all the different cities that might be gathering and might be protesting and those that might want to you know use this situation and and somehow respond violently you tell me how that's going to change anything.
I will tell you this and I've said it many times before our officers are not trained at all.
I know I I'm not look I'm a student of the martial arts I I I practice an eclectic blend.
I do situational uh street fighting and situational self defense every single solitary day and these are I would know way more than these officers because they don't take the time.
Now, the other thing is, so that means for those officers, their only defense is usually, you know, either a baton or a firearm.
You know, I've been pushing, you know, this company, Burner.
I have no financial interest in it, but they have the means of stopping people with projectiles.
And they now have shotgun shell projectiles you can use in your 12-gauge shotgun, your own gun.
And they are projectiles with tear gas and two pepper sprays that do incapacitate people.
And I've never been a big fan of the stun gun or...
the taser because I that's close quarter fighting at that point.
You don't person might grab it and use it in on you.
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Thank you caller for laughing.
The caller would be AJ the caller I know it's AJ AJ and I go way back.
It's the caller okay I got it.
Listen I'm I'm just praying for peace tonight.
I I hate to see our our cities in conflict like this our country in conflict like this.
Say in prayers tonight big time.
God bless you my friend don't let five people don't let five mess up your city living for what five possibly has done people don't make other people pay for what five done let's let the law take care of his business.
Love you Sean and keep up the good work.
Thank you big time appreciate it my friend.
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Right back to our busy phones.
Will in Utah.
Will, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Thanks for checking in how are you?
Good how are you Sean?
I'm good sir what's happening I totally agree with you and the the call previous but I thought the topic was Paul Pelosi so that's kind of what I had a few questions for you about what's on your mind well I think uh the timeline from when Paul called in to the time the police got there that was only eight minutes.
That's pretty remarkable because I thought the nine one one operator was really quite.
I mean, she was acting like, okay, we'll call you back or something like that, or call if you need us at first.
Yeah, well, remember, he's he he's in a very difficult situation.
It's obvious that he's on a speakerphone because we hear the assailant's voice.
So he's he's trying to speak in code to the operator, and the operator is saying, Are you in danger?
He can't answer yes without an imminent attack.
That's why he's trying to speak in code, and usually the capital police are here.
So I I'm I don't really blame him, but I'll give you the final thought.
Go ahead.
Well, I was just thinking that a trained 911 operator would notice that immediately.
And obviously she did really good because the response time was eight minutes.
And from that time on, Paul, I think the police they can't say anything against the police.
I heard a couple of commentators say something that the police didn't act quick enough.
Man, they acted absolutely as fast as they could.
And they and as soon as they said put down the hammer, the guy attacked Paul Pelosi.
So it was very different by the way, as it was described early on and early reporting, which tells you again that you can't count on reports like this.
Anyway, glad you call my friend.
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