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Uh so it just broke this week that the gotta ways that the Department of Homeland Security had previously estimated last year being 500,000.
Uh, we now know to be 1.2 million.
Since Joe Biden has been president, over five million illegal immigrants have crossed our border.
Aided and abetted by Joe Biden and is reckless uh basically aiding in assistance, aiding in abetting law breaking.
You know, actually they if you enter the country at our southern border, you get preferential treatment.
There's no vaccine mandate, there's not even a COVID test.
You might get a free Biden phone, then you're gonna have free transportation and go to one of the 48 states in the continental U.S. That is how they have handled this.
And meanwhile, all of our resources on the ground at our border now are being used just to work through the process of of dealing with this massive number of people c entering our country illegally because he refuses to enforce the law.
Well, that means the cartels have been having a field day in other areas of the border where they traffic human beings with a traffic fentanyl with a traffic opioids and heroin uh into the country that is that is literally killing hundreds of kids every single solitary week.
You know, you know, there's one watchdog group of GOP lawmakers declaring that the cartels are winning a war at the southern border.
They are winning, and they're getting filthy rich off it.
And Joe Biden is aiding and abetting in the process.
And Majorcus, the same thing.
Texas leads now 20 Republican states and suing the Biden administration over the illegal uh or what they call migrant parole program.
Uh Chuck Schumer said after the election he wants amnesty for all of these illegal entries.
Now, Mexico, by the way, and you know what what is happening here?
Why are we allowing all this to happen?
How bad is the fentanyl crisis?
Well, in case you're interested, a toddler recently died of fentanyl and overdose um because uh it's so prevalent everywhere in the country.
That's how bad it is.
28 fentanyl overdoses, eight deaths reported in Montana over a 10-day period.
It's in every town, every city, all across this country.
You know, let me play this montage 17 separate times that the Biden administration and their officials have lied to us and told us that the border is secure.
It's not secure.
The United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border.
The border is in fact secure.
A record 221,000 migrants crossed into the U.S. last month.
Our border is secure, but we believe certainly that the border is secure.
1,300 uh migrants a day.
We have taken unprecedented action over the past year and a half to secure our border and rebuild a safer and orderly process system.
This year is on pace to be the deadliest year for migrants crossing into this region of Texas in recent memory.
The border is secure.
The border is secure, and the border is not open.
Crossings are still at an all-time high, with border patrol reporting more than 1.8 million apprehensions from October 2021 through July.
The border remains closed.
It is not open.
We are turning away the majority of adults, but the border is secure.
The border is closed.
So we are offering solutions.
That's what the Biden Harris administration has been doing since day one.
This is worse now than it was before.
A record number of migrants this year, and the total could surpass two million by the end of September.
We're certainly uh doing a lot more to secure the border.
We have a secure border.
And we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border.
A record, sir, of migrants in New York City.
Over two million illegal immigrants crossing the southern border.
An all-time record.
The border is secure.
We agree that uh the border is secure.
It's not secure.
Anyway, here with the very latest, our friends Mark Morgan, former acting uh CBP commissioner and heritage visiting fellow and Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council and 20 year active border patrol veteran, uh, here to break all of this down.
The the numbers are now more staggering than we ever thought.
It continued borders continue to be wide open, Mark, and nobody wants to lift a finger to do anything about it.
And look what it's doing to our country.
Look what it's doing to border towns.
Look at all the cartels taking advantage of open areas of the border because we don't have the manpower because they're too busy now being distracted, uh taking in the influx that Joe Biden is allowing to happen.
Yeah, Sean, look let me recap the numbers real quick.
So this last uh December, total nationwide encounters were actually over 301,000 in a 30-day period.
So far, in the first 23 months of this administration, we've seen over six million total encounters and gataways, and within that, as you said, one point two million gataways.
Why so this is a war, and we are losing.
The cartels are winning.
We have literally handed operational control of our southern border to their cartels because of this administration's open border policies.
And real quick on the gataways, why is that so important?
So we hear about the drugs pouring in, because as you said, border troll agents are pulled off the line, relegated to administrative duties.
But among the 1.2 million godways, here's what we know.
There are murderers, rapists, pedophiles, aggravated felons, and gang members among them, and there's potential NASA security threats among the 1.2 million that now call the United States home.
It's it's it's it's insanity that this has become a right and left thing.
There's no downside to securing our border.
Let's ask Brandon Judd.
You you talk to these guys every day, uh, they're telling you how bad it is, and the American people continue to be lied to.
Oh, the border secure, the border secure, the border secure, the border's not secure.
Yeah, unfortunately, I live this nightmare every single day.
Um, my agents and I, we have to deal with this.
We constantly have to deal with the the fallout of bad policies, programs, and operations.
And let's put everything into perspective.
When we talk about uh 600,000 gataways just in the last six months, if we go back to a typical year, if we have if we even have a hundred thousand gataways, we're lucky.
That's that that would be a very high number.
Now we're talking about 1.2 million gataways uh in in the two years that Joe Biden has been in office.
And then of course, if you look and project out uh what we saw in his first year, then the second year, the third year, th those numbers are gonna go up astronomically, and then in the fourth year they're gonna go up even more.
And so the the trajectory just continues to go up.
So, in the first in the first two years, more than five million people have been have have been able to make it into the United States, not just cross the border illegally, but make it into the United States through catch and release, and then of course the gataways.
In the next two years, it's going to be seven million more people.
Those are numbers that we just absolutely can't sustain.
And then on top of that, you have to look at the drug trade that is facilitated by illegal um border crossings.
The human smuggling is what allows the cartels to bring in all of the drugs that are killing so many of our United States citizens.
We have to look at this and say this is national security, this is public safety.
We have to look at uh at this and say we've got to have the proper programs, policies, and operations.
And if we did that, we could have the border secure tomorrow.
It's like a light switch if only they would give us the proper programs that are necessary.
Let me ask you both the same question.
Mark will give you the first uh shot at this.
Last year, over a hundred people on the terrorist watch list we were able to catch.
My question is if I was well, let me put it a different way.
If I was president, I'll tell you one thing that would keep me up at night is how many people on the terrorist watch list uh are gotta ways.
How many got into the country that we don't know about?
And how dangerous is that for this country?
Are we going to wake up one morning in a terror cell that crossed our southern border because it's wide open is gonna you know bring us you know some version of 911, whatever sick, evil, twisted, you know, thing they they can contrive in their minds?
That's the question, and that is not hyperbolic.
That's a very possible.
Look, let me put it in this perspective.
Right now, the terrorist organization, especially with with with respect to what happened in Afghanistan, it's returned to a terrorist haven terrorist operating base.
I promise you, I worked this in the FBI for many years.
The terrorist organizations in this country, their commitment is unwavering to do United States harm both here and abroad.
And they're looking for every opportunity to exploit.
While we've hardened some targets, others have opened wide up.
They're continuing to look for those opportunities.
They have to look no further than our wide open southwest border.
And let me give you one example that drives that home.
The FBI last year prevented a terrorist attack that was going to assassinate a former president of the United States, George Bush.
How are they going to carry that out?
By smuggling illegal alien terrorists or a wide open Southwest border.
The border patrol brand is out there all the time.
They've apprehended illegal aliens from 160 different countries.
You already gave the numbers of those that apprehended like uh uh criminals.
The issue is not what we've apprehended, the issue is what we haven't apprehended.
Among the 1.2 million, Sean, I suggest and I say that the next sleeper terrorist sleeper cell could already be in the United States plan of the next terrorist attack.
We have no idea.
That's why Mark, I would argue it's a certainty that they're here.
There's no way the math doesn't wouldn't add up otherwise.
If they're catching people on the terrorist watch list, that means there is an orchestrated effort to get into this country to bring harm to our fellow Americans.
And I fear one day we're going to wake up and be in a state of shock.
I won't be shocked.
I will be sad.
Uh my heart will be broken because it likely was preventable, uh, Brandon Judd.
Sean, all you have to do is look at the drugs, and and you can look at that and draw a direct parallel to the terrorists.
Um you look at if if we seize a thousand pounds of drugs, we're seeing ten thousand pounds of drugs on the streets.
Um so you you look at that, and so if we see a thousand but ten thousand are on the street, then you have to look at that and you and you have to draw that parallel.
Well, if you extrapolate it out, if you let's say you get a thousand pounds of fentanyl, uh, you're saying that ten thousand pounds likely made it across.
Is that what you're saying?
Absolutely.
Right, extrapolate it out.
You catch a hundred uh uh people on the terrorist watch list, uh okay, then if we use that same math, that would be a thousand people on the terrorist watch list that we didn't get.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so drugs tell us an awful lot.
Um, because we don't know where these these people might be, that the ones that are crossing the that are coming from countries that want to do us harm.
We don't know where they are.
We don't know whether or not that we know that they crossed.
We just don't know where they came from and what harm they want to do.
But what we can do is we can draw the direct parallel with drugs and say that the exact same thing is happening with terrorists as well.
Look at December.
17 people, 17 people in December on the terrorist watch list.
If we have one year where we apprehend six people on the terrorist watch list, that's a very high number.
But in one month alone, 17 people.
So, yes, you have to you you have to extrapolate out and you have to look at that, and then you also have to understand that we might not feel it right now, but we ultimately will.
We know that these terrorists come into the United States and they hide until they're activated.
Once they're activated, that's when we get the World Trade Centers that are that come down.
What's going to be the next attack?
Who's going to be harmed?
And that's what this administration just doesn't care about, and that's what is sickening to me.
All right, quick break.
We'll come right back more on the open border policies that are way worse than we even knew with Brandon uh Judd and Mark Morgan.
We'll get to your calls at the bottom of this half hour.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
I will get to your calls after the news at the bottom of the hour, but we continue.
It's 800 nine four one Sean if you want to join us, uh, but we continue with Mark Morgan and Brandon Judd.
The only thing that I can think of that would work, Mark Morgan, is going back to the Trump era policies of stay in Mexico, continuing the building of the border wall and finish That that project.
Uh, we made a lot of progress under Trump.
Um, that would secure our border.
And, you know, it's interesting.
Joe Biden is in the process of building a wall around his own home, so clearly he must think somewhere deep down inside the walls work.
Yeah, look, Sean, you're absolutely right.
It's Brandon said it perfectly.
It's not complicated.
It's like turning on a light switch.
I completely agree with him.
It's really easy.
You just have enough policies that enforce a law, apply consequences, those who violate the law, and you actually insert integrity back in the system.
For example, you in-catch and release.
And look, uh, Brandon, if you don't mind, I'm actually I'm actually going to steal that comparison about the drugs because you're spot on.
So we we we draw that with the with the uh the national security threats with the you know potential terrorists coming to the country, but we could also draw that same extrapolation to criminals.
Now, the first 23 months, border patrol CBP encountered over 72,000 criminal illegal aliens, including a hundred and twenty convicted murderers to do the math.
Just think how many murders, rapists, pedophiles, aggravate felons, and gang members are among the one two point 1.2 million that now call the United States home.
Just this week, another American citizen, a young girl lost her life at the hands of an illegal alien MS 13 gang member.
How many more Americans have to die before we stand up is enough, Sean?
Well, if they're in a sanctuary state like California or Sanctuary City, you know, like New York or or California or San Francisco, whatever it happens to be, even if we catch them and convict them and they spend time in jail, uh, Brandon Judd, even when they get out of jail, we don't deport them.
How stupid can we be as a country?
Yeah, that that's just the the blue states, the blue cities.
They constantly want to pander to their open border activists.
They look at and say, how do I remain in power?
How do I get elected?
I'm going to do exactly what they want me to do, and that's why they don't turn them over to ice.
I mean, the 287G program is a complete and total joke.
It is a very, very good program in the states and cities that actually exercise.
But when you don't do that, you're sending the message to the criminals that all you have to do is come here, violate our laws, and you're going to be rewarded.
When you reward criminality, you can expect crime to go up.
And that's what we're seeing in the United States, not just with border security, with every single crime.
That's why so many cities are riddled with crime.
If we do not actually enforce our laws, you can expect crime to go up and the border, we're seeing it uh in in in a level that we just never would have dreamed before.
It's unbelievable, and it's gonna happen.
And you know, God, I pray to God, with all my heart, mind, body, and soul, that what I think is possible and we're we're setting ourselves up for never happens.
But I don't believe that I'm gonna be wrong.
That's a sad thing.
I am afraid for our country.
We are creating a national security vulnerability, and it could be disastrous, and the loss of human life can be incalculable if we don't if we keep allowing this to happen if it's not too late already.
Anyway, appreciate you both.
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you, Brandon.
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All right, we got a leftist, we got a liberal, we got a progressive, we got a socialist, Sam in Pennsylvania.
What's up, Sam the man?
How are you doing, Sean?
I'm good, my friend.
What can I do for you?
So I just want to uh uh ask how come um we're doing stories about documents on a regular basis and not doing stories on things that really affect the American people.
You mean like the last half hour when we did a uh debate on the border and how wide open it is, and how Joe Biden has allowed over five million illegal immigrants, he's aided in abetted in law breaking, that he picks and chooses the laws he wants to enforce and ignores the ones he doesn't.
Uh the fact that he's given preferential treatment uh to people that don't respect our laws, our borders, our sovereignty, is that not an important issue to you?
No, I think that's a that's a great issue.
I I that's what I just spoke about.
Um, yeah, we're talking we also are talking about Biden's horrific economy.
You want to talk about that?
I have a lot of news on that today we can talk about.
What would you like to talk about?
Uh I I mean, uh if if all you want to do is is Biden bash, that's perfectly fine, then you can do that.
But I think in general, we can talk about really important things like why certain uh politicians are voting for or against uh insurance access for American Americans.
Um I have no idea what you're talking about.
Give me the specifics of what you're talking about.
Well, I'm just saying, like, there's there's so many different stories we could be talking about.
We could be talking about the high-scale.
No, no, no, no.
You mentioned insurance.
What did you mean?
You're saying Americans can't get I thought every American can get Obamacare insurance through the Obamacare Exchange.
Is that Obamacare live up to his promises that you keep your doctor, keep your plan, and every American family would save money up to $2,500 per family per year?
Did it live up to that promise or no?
No, because Obamacare was not medical, and it's not this socialist program everybody.
I appreciate, I appreciate your honesty.
Do you not think it is?
Let me ask you this.
Do you not think that the issue involving top secret documents, especially knowing what we know?
Let's take the communist Chinese and we'll forget about Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and all these countries.
Joe Biden lied, and you'll admit this, right?
When he said that he never had a conversation with Hunter or any other family member about their foreign business dealings.
You know that's a lie, right?
You'll admit that.
Again, how does this impact anybody on earth?
Well, I'll tell I'll tell you how.
I'll tell you how.
But I asked you a question.
Did he lie?
Because he said it multiple times in the campaign.
Did he lie?
We now have photographic evidence he lied.
We have Hunter Biden's laptop and and Hunter himself implicates his own father.
Uh, and then we have meetings and times of meetings, and the people that were in meetings, it was Hunter, Joe, and his foreign business partners.
Let me add let me give you an example why it matters, and you tell me if this matters to you.
The Biden family, you know, you know the whole deal with Ukraine.
Joe Biden leveraged the billion taxpayer dollars.
Uh said you're not going to get it.
You've got six hours to fire a prosecutor who turns out have been investigating his son, who is being paid millions, who went on Good Morning America and admitted he had no experience in energy at all, or in Ukraine.
Now, do you think it matters if the vice president's son is selling access to this country?
Does that bother you?
I think it bothers me when anybody does it.
I didn't ask you about anybody.
I'm asking about Joe and Hunter Biden.
Does that bother you?
Was that corrupt to you?
Yes, but it's also corrupt when Trump and it's also corrupt.
Well, give me give me one example where Trump sold access.
Well, when Ivanka Trump wanted specific uh trademarks, uh he specifically worked with the Chinese, so that she made sure.
No, not when Trump was in the White House.
I don't know any any family member that benefited financially at all.
In any way, there's not even been an allegation of such.
Let me ask let me ask you this.
Is it a little odd to you that the communist Chinese gave Hunter Biden a one point five billion dollar deal with the Bank of China uh for financial investments?
Uh does it with no experience?
Does it does it raise your eyebrows that they gave the Bidens a five million dollars zero interest forgivable loan?
Is it odd to you that a Chinese national took Hunter Biden on a on a shopping spree worth a hundred thousand dollars?
Uh does it bother you?
You know, do any of these things bother you?
Hunter Biden, sure.
I mean, it bothers me, sure.
Let's well, no, no, but I'm talking about Joe Biden knew about it too, and Joe Biden is now the president.
Uh-huh.
Does that sound like there's the potential that Joe Biden could be a compromise president?
I am agreeing with you, Sean, that they should investigate it.
Thank you.
So then why are you calling me telling me why we should be talking about other things besides the documents?
It's related to the documents.
James Colmer, by the way, pointed out that Hunter Biden's uh artwork, it turns out is incredibly popular with Chinese buyers.
Did you know that?
Sean, what I'm trying to say, okay, is uh I agree that Joe Biden should be investigated up, down, left, right, okay.
I am just saying that we should have the same standard for all politicians.
So tell me a Republican that did anything similar, I'm all ears.
Did something similar to what?
To what Biden did?
The money that the Bidens got with their family operation, monies from uh are that are hostile to the U.S., like the communist Chinese are number one geopolitical foe, uh Russia are number two geopolitical foe, uh Ukraine, uh Kazakhstan, and I can keep going.
They've pulled in a fortune.
And we know Joe knew about it.
And Joe lied to the American people.
And if Joe took money and didn't tell the American people, does that mean that he's got a maybe the Chinese have compromising materials on Joe Biden?
Is that possible?
Sean.
Is that possible?
I asked you a question.
I'm gonna repeat myself, okay?
I don't need you to repeat yourself.
Is it possible with all the money they took in for these countries that Joe Biden, your president is compromised?
Well, first of all, Joe Biden is everybody's president.
Okay, is Joe Biden, is it there a potential with all the money he took in from foreign adversaries that he is compromised?
I think that if Joe Biden took money like you're saying he did, they should investigate.
Absolutely investigated.
So that so the answer is if he if he took money and he partook, if he was partaking in this financial windfall, because countries that hate us are giving Hunter Biden only experience that I really know of in his life is that he was a crackhead who liked prostitutes, uh, giving a guy with no experience all of this money, and it appears Joe knew about all of it.
And you're saying that that doesn't put the president of the United States in a compromising position?
Sean, for the third time answer.
Yes, no, no.
I'm I'm answering.
I'm saying yes, could put him in a compromising position.
Thank you.
Do you hear me?
Okay.
Yes.
But what I am saying is you can't have selective outrage for these types of things.
If you're saying that there's corruption among the Biden administration and you want them to investigate, I say a hundred percent and investigate Biden.
And any current connections of corruption there may be but I am also saying is hang on hang on what what I'm also saying is that you do the same for the Republicans because Republican do you think needs an investigation?
Give me a similar case.
Well I can't give you a specific case but I'm probably I'm almost positive that there is the same kind of quick or call that you're talking about with Biden with uh pharmaceutical companies that quote unquote donate to specific Republicans and I'm not I'm I'm not disagreeing with you.
I think the whole system of politics is corrupt.
You're not you're not gonna get and both parties do it.
Exactly but what I'm saying is why do you never because I watch your show I watch it to your show okay and I've never seen you call out any Republicans and if you want to include Democrats have at it because they do the same thing.
Excuse me, I beg to differ with you, is that I was fiercely outspoken against Republicans.
I'll give you a big example.
You ready?
When Republicans finally got control of the presidency and they had had 60 some odd votes to defund and dismantle Obamacare.
And then when it mattered, you know, they didn't vote when they had a president that would actually sign the bill.
We had seven senators the previous year that voted for a.
straight repeal of Obamacare but when it mattered and Donald Trump would have signed it into law they changed their vote I couldn't have been more loudly outspoken about the swampism of Republicans.
I'm not a Republican, by the way.
I'm a registered conservative.
Sure.
I hear you.
And, Sean, I completely agree.
But we're not comparing the same thing, right?
One is a sleazy politician who will lie to voters to get elected.
The other, we're talking about someone accepting bribes.
I mean, let's call them what they are, right?
They're bribes to make sure that they support or...
or go are against specific bills that will benefit well you you're you're saying that but that listen both parties are guilty of taking money from all sorts of Peter pull uh is it because they uh want access I would argue that absolutely I think some people contribute with the thought that maybe they will buy access I'm not and that's both parties.
But we'll but I've never seen an influence peddling scandal uh potential as big as the Biden family syndicate and therein lies a huge difference but I w but listen I want to give you some credit I will give you credit when I pushed you and you had to answer you were more honest than most Democrats that would call this show.
So I give you a lot of credit I think I think there's a sincerity in you I think there's hope for you I think that if you listen to this program more watch TV more we'll even let you be the caller one night on TV you can call in and give me a grade and tell me what you like and don't like about a particular show.
Would you like that opportunity?
Sean, I would love the opportunity to be a player on the show.
What grade would you give me, for example, on a recent show that you watched?
And you can be totally blunt.
I don't care.
You know, I kind of give you, on average, right, I kind of give you like a C-throughout the week.
And the reason I do is while your level of outrage is sometimes reasonable, the majority of your
outrage I I think is outrageous but you know I I understand that you have a specific viewing block and a specific demographic and so I understand the way you're you're part of my viewing block you're part of my demographic I'm thankful that you listen and watch I really am I appreciate it I can't do this job without people listening and watching yeah but I don't I like I said I I mainly live you could you kind of hate watch me.
You watch me just to get mad and get your blood boiling a little bit, right?
Well, not only that, but also uh as someone who's on the left, right?
Yeah, right.
I I consider myself a progressive, but as someone who's on the left, you uh you you would be blind and and uh um ignorant if you didn't listen to the other side to understand where they're coming from.
Uh because sometimes it makes no sense.
And I I just gave you a hardcore liberal, progressive to use your term, the entire caller segment this half hour.
Because we're out of time.
I'm not hanging up on you because we're not I'm I don't like talking to you.
Uh I appreciate your honesty and your input.
Um, I think if you think deeply about our conversation, if you think deeply, you would come to the conclusion that the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible that the Biden family has put this country in danger in many ways because of these foreign business deals.
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