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Senator Bill Hagerty - December 20th, Hour 2
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Hey, welcome back to Hannity, everybody.
This is Jay Sekulong with Jordan Secular.
We together run the American Center for Law and Justice, the ACLJ.
We've uh handled a lot of cases you know about, and we are thrilled to be uh sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity.
Folks, we've been talking about the situation at the border.
We've been talking about the IRS in the first uh hour of the broadcast.
I I gotta tell you something.
We're being joined right now by a very good friend of ours, Senator Bill Haggard Jordan, somebody that we've got to know very well, work with, and are thrilled that he's with us today.
We do.
We work very closely with Senator Hagerty uh from Tennessee and his staff who do an excellent job.
And Senator, I want to start with this.
You had legislation because part of this the border crisis is not just the individuals, the the illegal immigrants, but it's what they bring with them, what the cartels bring with them.
We saw today a 14-year-old that was picked up with two pounds of fentanyl uh by border patrol on them.
I mean, that could kill thousands upon thousands of Americans.
And you had legislation, the stop fentanyl border crossings act, and Democrats defeated it.
They actually voted against it.
It's like it's hard for people to understand when they follow this issue, Senator Haggerty.
How can uh your colleagues on the other side of the aisle vote against legislation to stop fentanyl from flowing into our border?
Well, Jordan and Jay, it's uh great to be back on with you.
I love what you do at ACLJ, and uh I really am thrilled that you're uh helping our friend Sean Hannity today on the show.
Um You're right.
Not only did they vote against it once, they voted against it twice.
I brought this back to the floor when I learned that the district judge had lifted uh Title 42, the the the pandemic being the reason and the rationale that they were using Title 42, it's a health crisis.
Um lifted that said the pandemic is over.
We all know that, but I tell you, the fentanyl crisis isn't over, and we have lost more young people between the ages of eighteen and forty-five to deaths by overdose here in America in the past year than any other cause, most of it fentanyl and coming across that southern border.
We've got to do something about it.
The Democrats are willing to block this.
They will not do anything to get in the way of their aim to quote transform America.
They have destroyed the border, they're flooding America, and they're turning every town into a border town.
And you've seen the news, my home state of Tennessee, our home state of Tennessee.
Yep, uh, is now been notified that we're gonna have, you know, people shipped into our state, single young males shipped into our state.
Uh, you know, it's it's gonna be interesting to see if they cover this the same way they covered the shipment of people into Martha's Vineyard.
You think the mainstream media are gonna pick this up when it happens to Tennessee the way they did uh in in the liberal hotbed of Martha's Vineyard?
Yeah, of course not.
Freaked out.
You know, the this there's even the the Martha's Vineyard Migrant Crisis is a wiki page.
It's got its own wiki page.
They are so upset about this.
They've got their own Wikipedia page, the Martha's Vineyard Migrant Crisis.
I wonder if we'll get one in Tennessee.
Yeah, because the left doesn't want to ever point to, I hate to say it this way.
They don't ever like to point to the evidence of what these the situation does to quote border cities, which is now every city in the United States, every state's a border state.
We've been litigating these issues for decades.
And the fact of the matter is, I don't know, I cannot tell you, Senator, how many families have been crushed by fentanyl and losing loved ones.
I mean, I it's happened in our own family.
I mean, we've seen it.
And it's tragic.
I mean, I'm thinking about the people in our our our teams who've lost loved ones or cousins or nephews.
I mean, it's just it's it's outrageous.
And you would think for a moment that the the left would say, you know what, this is a real problem on the border.
That is the vehicle of entry for sex trafficking.
It is the vehicle vehicle of entrance for the drugs, it is a veal vehicle of entering to put a tremendous stress on our cities and municipalities.
And when you say a stop fentanyl border crossing act, You would think, Senator, that the left would say, and your Democratic colleagues would say, you know what, we could all work together to stop fentanyl.
I would certainly hope so, but it seems to be uh inconvenient truth for them.
Uh they they are still so focused on getting people, and I think primarily into sanctuary cities where they can have uh, you know, the ability to to up the count, so to speak, of humans, because you know how the census works.
Will Barros tried to change this when he was Commerce Secretary to add the question about citizenship.
No, the number of congressional districts and therefore electoral votes are going to be determined by the number of people living in a given area.
And maybe what they're trying to do in my state of Tennessee is shift those numbers in their favor as well.
You know, it's it's interesting because right now pending before the Supreme Court, if you're just joining us on Hannity, so the Supreme Court, Chief Justice Roberts issued uh last night a stay uh in the case involving uh the application of Title 42.
District Court said it could no longer be uh applied.
Court of appeal said the same thing.
Chief Justice stopped it at least temporarily.
That temporary, by the way, could expire tonight, uh, while the United States responds to it in a brief.
That response, by the way, due uh about the time we conclude the broadcast today, so we could get an order out of the court tonight, tomorrow.
I've had them where they've gone for an hour, I've had them where they've gone for four months.
I mean, you just don't know.
But when you look at the problem center and Jordan, you've talked about this a lot.
Every city's now become a border city.
You heard from Senator Hagrid, and this is pretty breaking news.
It just came out right before he joined us on the Hannity broadcast that Tennessee now is going to get this unspecified number, Senator Haggerty, of single uh men who are just going to be dropped off.
We don't know the amount, don't know the number.
I don't know if we even have the location yet.
So now uh Tennesseans are going to experience and like you said, is the national media going to run to Nashville or Memphis or Chattanooga or Knoxville to cover any of these stories?
I don't think so.
So it's up to us to tell the stories.
Absolutely it is, and I appreciate your giving us an opportunity to do it.
When you think about this, um the the number of illegal immigrants that have come into the country just in the past year, roughly three million.
That's larger than the cities of Nashville, Memphis, Knoxville, and Chattanooga combined.
That doesn't even include the God aways.
I mean, this is a already a tidal wave of people coming across that border, and now the Title 42 is, you know, in a state position, as but as Jay said, it could be lifted tonight, it could be lifted tomorrow.
But once that stay is lifted, this is going to become a tsunami of human tragedy coming across that border.
And I tell you, I I I've taken a group of Tennessee sheriffs and mayors down to the border.
I've been there on other occasions.
It is an absolute travesty what's happening.
You see the misery that's occurring at that border, the people that have paid their life savings to these coyotes and cartels to get up there, to risk their lives to come through uh, you know, long, long and dangerous journeys.
Then they're bringing fentanyl in along with them, the human trafficking that you mentioned.
All of this is just a a terrible situation.
And from a national security standpoint, we have captured or encountered is the flight word that the Biden administration uses, over 160 different nationalities at that border since Joe Biden took office.
Over 160 different countries, a number of people that are on the terrorist watch list.
There are only 193 countries recognized by the United Nations.
I mean, this gives you an idea of the scope of the national security crisis that they have precipitated at our border.
It's unprecedented, and everyone, including the mainstream media, are looking the other way.
You know, the humanitarian crisis that this has created in the border and then in our communities and municipalities.
Uh, folks, I've represented DAs in a variety of states uh when the easiest use come up, and you know, it's very it's tragic what's happening to our families in our communities.
It's tragic what's happening to the people that are are are being paying their life savings, as the Senator said, uh, to be handled by a coyote, and they may or may not have known they had fentanyl in their backpack.
Who knows?
Uh the point is they did, and that was coming into the United States.
I want to I want to shift gears for a moment here, uh Senator, because you introduced a bill to require the Department of Justice to prioritize stopping violent crime and fentanyl trafficking uh rather than applying the free access to clinic entrances act uh on on abortion protesters, of which I've litigated more face cases probably than anybody.
I've handled three, four cases at the Supreme Court dealing with related issues, and this idea that now you're as you said, you know, stop persecute prosecuting ministers and arrest murderers, but they but Department of Justice dusted off the FACE Act, which hadn't been applied in dec uh decade, and all of a sudden they make it a cause celeb And they're spending real resources going after pro-life protesters who, if they wanted to go after them, local municipalities could for like trespass.
But instead they try to turn it into literally a federal criminal case.
No, this is where the priorities of the Biden administration happened a lot.
It's a war on conservative thought.
It's certainly a war on pro-life.
And if you think about it, uh my legislation made a tremendous amount of sense not to deploy resources of that matter, to put them against the hardened criminals that are here illegally that have been convicted as felons.
They won't even do that.
They won't even redirect their resources to get hardened illegal immigrants who are who are felons out of the country.
They'd rather come and attack Americans, whether it's for life clinics or it's uh parents that are attending a school board meeting.
You know, they're they're not going to protect uh Supreme Court justice who's being marched upon in violation of federal law, uh, but they're going to do everything they can to harass and harangue conservative thinkers here in America.
It's just a shame.
It really is.
Senator, we appreciate you being uh representing really all of us, and we've certainly uh appreciated working with you and your team uh trying to advance causes for the country and uh, of course, for your state of Tennessee as well, our state of Tennessee.
But I also want to say thank you from all of us for all of the hard work you're doing.
I know this is great challenges ahead, but uh, we're just glad you're there.
Thanks, Senor.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, both Jay and Jordan.
Thank you for what you do.
You know, I wanted to say and appreciate it, Center, that you know, you we've so far every issue we've hit at the American Center for Law and Justice, we've been front and center on all of these cases.
A lot of these are coming back up again.
So you said dusting off the face act and reprioritizing at the DOJ in a way that even the Obama administration wasn't doing.
This kind of uh leftist focus on pro-life protesters and ministers like Senator Haggerty was talking about, instead of the drug traffickers, instead of the violent criminals.
Uh so they talk about defunding the police, and they ran away from defunding the police closer to the city.
That didn't work out so well.
No.
But but it's not like they refunded the police.
You know, that needs to be pointed out.
All of this legislation that we've talked about today is about refunding law enforcement to do the right thing.
They tried to make us out as conservatives to be anti-law enforcement.
We're not anti-law enforcement.
We are pro-law enforcement.
We just want their priorities to be set right from Washington, D.C., especially if we're talking about federal law enforcement agencies.
Now, you're right, and the Department of Justice has a lot of flexibility, and they are exercising that flexibility.
Folks, coming up uh in in this hour of the broadcast, we're gonna be joined with our good friend, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who also is a senior counsel for global affairs for the American Center for Law and Justice, where Jordan and I uh lead the ACLJ in our efforts here in the United States and around the globe.
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And this is Jordan Seculo with the ACLJ.
I'm here with my dad, Jay Sekulo, who is our chief counsel at the ACLJ.
A lot of the folks that we're going to be talking to on the broadcast, especially this uh third uh second and third hour, are actually team members of the ACLJ.
So they're not just people we talk to on broadcast, but they're people that we work with behind the scenes as well.
One of those is the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
So you can imagine whether we're talking about the border, because of course, all the negotiations that take place with, like remain in Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries, uh, with the Latin American countries, with terrorism.
And as a former Secretary of State, as a former CIA director, former member of Congress, West Point Grad, all of those things combined, and he's able to assist us at the ACLJ that when we are, when sometimes we're outside the government, outside the executive branch, but we're pushing the executive branch, we're pushing legislation, pushing FOIA requests and information like that.
Well, you know, it's interesting because with uh the former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo is like as Jordan said, is our uh senior counsel of global affairs.
We operate internationally.
We have offices throughout the world, uh, including in Strasbourg, France, where the European Parliament sits and the European Court of Human Rights.
But also we have offices in Jerusalem that are very active.
Uh I've been to and Jordan has as well to the International Criminal Court in the Hague, where we've defended the U.S. interests, we've defended uh Israel's interests uh at the UN.
But what's interesting here is when we talk to the Secretary of State, I'm gonna ask him about China.
Because Jim Jordan's also coming up in this broadcast, and he's gonna be heading up the Judiciary Committee.
Uh a lot of us would like to know what happened, how did the the Wuhan lab, if that's where it originated from, and apparently that is where it originated from.
How did they get funding, including from the United States, maybe indirectly through a third party, but from the United States?
I lost a brother to COVID, so I take it very personally.
And I'm I'm gonna tell you something.
When you have people like Jim Jordan now heading up committees, it's gonna be a different world we're living in in about a week and a half.
Uh very different world.
Now, you got a divided government, you got the Senate controlled by the Democrats, you got the Republicans controlling the House, and of course the White House with uh our commander-in-chief, as he's called, uh Joe Biden.
And uh a commander-in-chief that won't go down to the border where the crisis is, a commander-in-chief that will not address the issues that are the most concerned to the American people, including inflation, which is still out of control, and including a situation with China.
So we're gonna ask uh Mike Pompeo about all those.
But as Jordan said, you know, we get to work with people like this.
And by the way, coming up later in the next hour of the broadcast, when we joined by former director of national intelligence, Rick Rennell, senior advisor to the ACLJ on issues of international security.
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Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jordan Secular from the ACLJ.
I'm co-hosting the broadcast today in place of Sean with my dad, Jay Sekul is our chief counsel, and we're joined now by the ACLJ's senior counsel for global affairs.
You may know him best as the former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo.
Mr. Secretary, it's great to be with you on Sean's broadcast.
You're with us on our program often, a couple times a week, but it's great having you on here.
I I wanted to start with the border question because as I I mentioned at the beginning of the program today, uh Title 42, up before the Supreme Court in the United States, John Roberts issued an administrative stay so that it could still be utilized today by our border patrol.
May not be the case by the time we're off the air.
I mean, the government has to respond basically when we're done with the broadcast today around five o'clock, and then you you could la I've had these stays last um uh an hour.
I've had them last, you know, four months.
But your sense of what lifting Title 42 uh could do and will do to the American people because of the border crisis, it will help exacerbate.
Jay Jordan, thanks for having me on.
Uh Sean Show.
Uh it's great to be with you again.
Look, lifting Title 42, we we don't have to guess about what that means for America.
You can see it with your own eye.
Uh the left can try to gaslight us, but make no mistake, you can see the thousands of people are going to come across.
Um, even the administration's estimated maybe as many as 7,000 people a day, 14,000 people.
I mean, numbers that just stagger and boggle the mind.
I I'm from I'm from Kansas.
You know, 14,000 people is a reasonably good sized town every day, coming across the southern border unlawfully, bringing with them goodness knows what fentanyl, chemicals, drugs.
We've had dozens and dozens of people on the terror watch list come across.
Who knows who knows how many we haven't caught.
So this will be devastatingly bad for the United States to lift Paddle 42.
And the administration let the state come and did nothing to tell you exactly about their intentions with respect to the border.
They're not going to do a thing.
I mean, we're starting to see Secretary Pompeo finally, Mayor Adams in New York.
I mean, he's complaining over you know 30,000 people.
It's New York City.
Uh and you've got the governor uh Newsom in California.
That's a state that actually has a wall uh speaking out about how this is just a total crisis and coming out of control.
But it seems like, as you said, the Biden administration, Green Jean-Pierre and their press conferences is going to continue to gaslight us.
They're going to continue to say, like Secretary Americus, the border's secure.
Uh we're doing everything we can.
It's the Republicans' fault.
Somehow it's the party that's in the minority.
Currently, in both the House and the Senate and the White House, uh, it's their fault that the border is like this.
And we've talked about this before, but all the policies you were putting in place under the Trump administration.
It's like they can't stomach utilizing any of them just because it happened to be something done under the Trump administration.
Jordan, your point, this isn't a Republican problem or a Democrat problem.
This is an American problem.
You're gonna have big city mayors all across America to say what Mayor Adams has said in New York City.
Help.
We have a crisis now, even the leadership in El Paso, right?
That didn't want to say it now, realize that they've got an emergency on their hand.
And it is deeply deeply dangerous to the people who are going to be sleeping on the streets.
Tens of thousands of people sleeping on the streets of the cities along the border.
That's not humanitarian.
And you know, you're to your final thought there.
It took us a little bit, but we finally figured it out.
We'd figured out how to stop precisely what you're saying today at the border.
We had slowed illegal immigration to a trickle.
Uh, I promise you, we would have all been fired if we had 7,000 people coming across the border on any one day, and we would have been right to have been fired.
It would have been the right thing.
This is possible to stop.
We don't need to go to root causes and dream about funding El Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala.
We need to do the things that America can do.
We can demand that the Mexican government do its part.
And when we do, when we get that right, when we turn the magnet off here, just like we're made in Mexico, that simple policy did.
You can slow down illegal immigration to a level that we can protect our sovereignty, protect our borders.
The American people will demand this, and they certainly deserve it.
Let me ask you this, Mr. Secretary.
I want to go over to the situation in China.
You've talked on our broadcast on Seculo often about the situation, the danger that China poses.
But I think for uh those listening today, I I want to recap that, so to speak.
And that is when you look at the global threats that the U.S. is facing.
How do you rate the Chinese threat right now?
The Chinese government, not the people of China, the Chinese government, the Communist Party of China's threat to the United States.
Jay, it's number one.
As external threats go, as people from outside trying to impact us here at home, changing the lives of the way we live in America, the Chinese Communist Party is number one.
So then when you take it to, when we talked about this also, the universities are being infiltrated by the Chinese Communist Party, even in the America's leading universities.
I I saw this when I was Secretary of State.
Our biggest research universities doing high-end work are all dependent on the Chinese Communist Party and its money.
Money for their research.
Students that come to the schools, they pay a full rate.
They don't get a discounted rate.
Their pension systems now are often the college pensions.
State university systems are all tied to the Chinese Communist Party.
So they have infiltrated.
I talk about the Chinese Communist Party as being inside the gates, impacting ordinary Americans every single day.
This isn't a foreign policy issue.
This is an American issue that impacts us here at home every day.
And the Biden administration has shown no willingness to actually confront it.
You know, there was a move on TikTok, and we may not explain it for people for a second, uh, Secretary Pompeo, first to TikTok and the U.S. Senate saying, you know, this should be banned from government employees' phones.
That's you know, they're not yet going to the fact of banning it from all Americans' phones, but from federal government employees' phones.
And yet the House has not yet taken up the legislation.
This passed the Democrat-controlled U.S. Senate.
Uh, we we've talked about the dangers of TikTok.
People have said, get this off your phone.
This is uh a spying tool by the Chinese Communist Party.
How serious?
I mean, the TikTok threat.
There's a lot of people listening to this broadcast right now.
They may not use TikTok, but their kids and grandkids do.
Tell your kids to get TikTok off their phone.
That's my that is my guidance because I I care about your family, your kids, your security, your privacy.
It is it is being pushed by the Chinese Communist Party both to collect information from our kids, but also to propagandize them, to push information to them so that they'll think about America as being not exceptional and about China and the Chinese Communist Party and being normal and decent.
We know how perverse and how wrong that is.
So we should not only get it off our federal phones.
Uh imagine George Jess for a second, um, that we asked the Chinese military to put on a U.S. app that was spying on them on their phones.
We'd be right, it's not going to happen.
We we've been naive, we've been silly.
Uh we can fix this.
Other countries have banned TikTok.
We tried to do it in the Trump administration.
Uh frankly, we didn't get it done.
There was some hope that we could figure out a way to disconnect TikTok from the Chinese government.
I don't believe that's possible.
We simply need to ban it, and everyone needs to take the app off their phones.
You know, one of the things that you worked on would have moved move us to the Middle East at the American Center for Law and Justice, as you know, Mr. Secretary, we've got an office, uh, very active office in Jerusalem and handles a lot of issues throughout the Middle East, internet issues involving the International Criminal, where I've appeared multiple times.
Uh interestingly, though, the Biden administration was pursuing aggressively a re-engagement in the Iran nuclear deal, as it's called.
Now, when you were Secretary of State, you led the charge to get us out of that deal, which was horrible because it was no deal at all.
I noticed in the last three weeks, silence from the administration.
They were pushing it, pushing it, pushing it.
About December 1st, it kind of stopped.
Uh, what's your sense of of what the administration was trying to accomplish?
What do you think happened here?
I know it's you know it's hard to read the tea leaps sometimes, but you would know it better than anybody else.
Yeah, my my sense, Jay, is reality hit them in the face.
The reality of the Iranian regime and what they're doing to women and uh uh ordinary citizens who are just trying to do simple things and live their life.
And I think that reality became so clear.
And then I think the Iranians can just kept asking for stuff and we kept giving it to them, and they kept telling them no, no, that's not enough.
And so I think the administration finally has now reached a point where they have come to recognize they can't get that deal done.
I don't think it changes their view.
Um they have been acting in a way that cuddles the United States up way too close to Iran.
I don't think that's gonna change.
But boy, if you see what the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates are doing and hedging their vets with China, if you watch the Israelis do the same thing, that shows a disconnectedness from the reality of the Middle East that we delivered.
Real prosperity, real peace, less risk our kids would have to go fight and die in the Middle East because of the work that we did for four years in the Biden administration.
Much like we began, Jay, you talked about the just if Trump and Pompeo did it, they can't do it.
I think you're seeing the same thing here in the Middle East as well.
You know, it's interesting because uh one of the last things that that happened um was of course the Abraham Accords, which had a gigantic impact and reshape really, and we've been involved in in the Middle East for for 40 years.
It reshaped Mike, the the trajectory of Middle East relations.
It did.
I'm really I'm really proud of all the people who made that happen, uh, including the people of the country's amazing leaders, uh like uh Mohammed Ben Zayad and Mohammed bin Salman, the leaders in Bahrain, President Trump, Prime Minister Nanyahu, these leaders came together and said enough of this nonsense of this historic misunderstanding of what it really takes to get peace.
Uh we changed the course of history.
Uh people in the Gulf Arab States will be better, our Israeli friends will be better off, but most importantly, American young men and women will be far better off as a result of what we achieved.
One more question for you, and that is the uh we got a new Congress starting in just a few days.
You served in Congress for a number of years.
Um we're gonna be joined by Jim Jordan later in the broadcast.
Uh do you think now that Republicans are gonna have control of the House, barely, but control of the House, that we could see some real oversight of what this administration is doing?
Because they never hesitated bringing you all up before Capitol Hill.
Um you think we could start seeing some real oversight here?
I'm counting on it, and folks like Jimmy Jordan are gonna lead it.
Um these are great Americans who are gonna go work really hard to get answers for the American people.
I I'm convinced they will do good work on oversight.
The administration will resist, they will fight.
Uh make no mistake about that.
But there are lots of important things, things about how this virus was hoisted upon America.
Uh, the list is long.
I know they're going to do these uh this oversight work, and I pray that they do it well, and just simply present facts to the American people.
That will be sufficient.
You're absolutely right.
Which we appreciate it, Mr. Secretary, and again, uh folks.
Uh great time to uh understand the scope and nature of what we do at the ACLJ.
When you got Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State who serves as a senior counsel for global affairs.
Merry Christmas, Mike, to you and your family.
And I guess uh I I want to say this, Jordan, uh for those that are new to hearing us in this context, and I'm thrilled to be hosting we're both thrilled to be hosting Sean's program.
We have people like Mike Pompeo, you're gonna hear later from Rick Ronell, who's also part of our team.
These are these were cabinet members of the previous administration serving in leadership capacities within the ACLJ.
Yeah, so it's expanded our expertise into a world of of obviously the legal world, the free speech world, the constitutional rights world, but then into the intelligence world, in the world of national security, in the world of diplomacy.
We have offices all around the world.
We had them before Secretary Pompeo joined the team.
But that's because we that's why we were a good fit for Secretary Pompeo.
We have international offices.
We do work at the United Nations.
Uh, we work in Pakistan.
We work in very tough countries.
You mentioned our office in in Israel.
We have an office in Pakistan right now handling uh a death penalty case, where uh a young Pakistani uh Christian uh male who was a teenager at the time he was in prison for blasphemy, has been sentenced to death by hanging.
Yeah.
And that's that's a case we're we are doing directly.
We represent that family.
We're litigating that one in the middle of the yeah, and but we're litigating that in Pakistan.
Yep.
We're litigating it also at the United Nations, where our European Center for Law and Justice, our affiliate, has NGO status.
That means full status to be able to appear before and and what they call an intervention uh at the United Nations.
So again, kind of a unique aspect of what we do at the ACLJ.
If you want more information about what we do, we encourage you to go to ACLJ.org.
That's ACLJ.org.
That's the American Center for Law and Justice website.
A lot of information there.
That's right.
People like Secretary Pompeo and Rick Rodell who are coming up.
They write articles unique just for ACLJ.org each week.
And they appear on our broadcast.
They work behind the scenes with us.
And again, it continues to allow us to expand our work.
We first brought it was Attorney General Ashcroft.
Yes.
This is the first cabinet member to join our team.
And then we've added an additional two more.
We continue to do that work because of your financial support of the ACLJ.
I bet a lot of donors are listening to this broadcast right now.
Listen to Sean's show.
And we thank all of you and appreciate all of you.
It's how we do the work that we do.
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All right, we're going to be back more with the Hannity program in just a moment.
Bringing you the people who make the news.
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I'm Randy.
Hey, welcome back to Hannity, everybody.
This is Jay Sekulone with Jordan Secillo.
Together we run the American Center for Law and Justice.
The music you just heard was from my band.
That was uh John Schlitz singing that tune with uh also sings with John Elefante, who was a former lead singer for Kansas.
John Schlit was former lead singer for a band called Head East and then Petra.
And we have a band called the J Seculo Band.
Uh, mostly because that's the easiest name to search engine optimization.
Uh I played the drums and a little bit of guitar, but uh if you want to check that out, you just go to J Secolo Band on Facebook.
Coming up, uh, we're gonna be talking to our friend uh Congressman Jim Jordan because there's a report that came out uh just yesterday, and this involves the Department of Justice.
While the Russia probe was going on, while there was uh congressional oversight into what DOJ's irregularities were with FISA warrants, as we know there was fraud committed on the FISA court by the Department of Justice.
Uh there were a host of issues of conflicts of interest.
While all of that was going on, lo and behold, what happens?
Well, the Department of Justice decides to issue subpoenas on senior staff for the intelligence community working with Devin Nunez.
I'm excited to see Congressman Jim Jordan be re-empowered as the Republicans take back the house because whether it's this issue, whether it's the origins of COVID, we need Jim Jordan's voice back.
We'll be right back.
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