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If you want to be a part of the program, Kristen Cinema makes an announcement today that she is registering as an independent and leaving the Democratic Party.
Listen.
I've registered as an Arizona independent.
I know some people might be a little bit surprised by this, but actually I think it makes a lot of sense.
You know, a growing number of Arizonians and people like me just don't feel like we fit neatly into one party's box or the other.
And so, like many across the state and the nation, I've decided to leave that partisan process and really just focus on the work that I think matters to Arizona and to our country, which is solving problems and getting things done.
Solving problems and getting things done.
Now, she goes on fake news CNN, she talks to Jake Tapper, uh, gives a great answer when you know regarding the balance of power, whether she'll caucus with the Democrats.
Um I know you have to ask the question, Jake, uh, but that's a DC thing.
I'm more about Arizona.
So the uh ever since uh Raphael Warnock, Senator Warnock was re-elected earlier this week, the balance of power right now is 51 Democrats or 51 votes for the Democratic Party that includes two independents, Angus King of Maine and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, but that's 5149.
What you're doing today doesn't change that.
It's still basically going to be 5149.
Well, I know you have to ask that question, Jake.
But that's kind of a DC thing to worry about.
What I'm really focused on is just making sure that I'm doing what I think comports with my values and the values of Arizonans.
So when I come to work each day, it'll be the same.
I'm gonna still come to work and hopefully serve on uh the same committees I've been serving on and continue to work well with my colleagues of both political parties, and I'm not really spending much time worrying about what the mechanics look like for Washington DC.
And to be honest, Jake, I don't think anyone in Arizona is caring about that either.
Um so I don't think things will change much for me, and I don't think things will change much for Arizonans.
Unbelievable.
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Um now this is interesting on a lot of different fronts, because she's not answering the question who she's going to caucus with.
If I had to guess, I'd imagine probably it's it's gonna be the Democrats, likely, maybe.
I mean, it's an interesting statement that she's making that she's gonna be independent.
Um she also, according to Politico, has now said after her decision to switch parties, she's not caucusing with either the Democrats or Republicans.
At least that's what politics are reporting, that she's not going to attend weekly Democratic Caucus meetings.
She rarely does now.
She isn't sure whether her desk will remain on the Democratic side of the Senate floor.
She also doesn't plan a caucus with Republicans.
So that kind of leaves us with a Republican Senate caucus of you know 49 senators uh against the Democratic caucus of 48 senators plus two independents, so it's 5049.
And Bernie Sanders, Angus King, they they do caucus with the Democrats.
They're told but they're both independent or say they're independent.
Uh, but if my math is rusty, the last time I checked, 50's not a majority of a hundred.
Uh the question is, will Mitch McConnell just give in to the Democratic claims that they still have a majority or insist that Chuck Schumer played by different rules, but you know, you know, dodging the question of Senate control was just interesting to me.
And if I'm look, I'm just watching from a distance.
I'm not really sure.
I don't know Kristen Cinema.
I've never talked to Kristen Cinema.
I have talked to Joe Manchin.
And what I'm seeing here is somebody that does not want to be aligned with a party that has swung so far radical left, and she's she just doesn't want to be a part of it.
I think it's that basic, that fundamental, and she doesn't think the people in her state want this.
If I had to guess, I don't think there's going to be any anybody that's going to give her a run for their money in terms of her election, um, only because she's showing an independence.
Now, one big question is, well, what is Joe Manchin going to do?
Joe Manchin, if I was Joe Manchin, I would be really, really ticked off.
Now, he did show that he was before the election.
You might recall that when he was fighting build back broke, his approval rating in West Virginia was going through the roof.
When he fought back against the Democrats ending the legislative filibuster, his approval ratings went through the roof.
The minute he went along with this deal with Biden and with Schumer, uh, the quote inflation and reduction act, better known better known as the tax the poor middle class and people on fixed income act, when he did that, his approval ratings pretty much dropped in half, and the people of West Virginia were furious.
And if you remember, if Jason maybe could pull these these quotes up, but when when Joe Biden just before the election made the comments about coal and then later made comments about oil.
I mean, we're talking about the the that is the entire economy of West Virginia.
Listen.
No one's building new coal plants because they can't rely on it.
Even if they have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of the existence of the plant.
So it's going to become a win generation.
And all they're doing is you're going to save them a hell of a lot of money and using the same transmission line and transmitted the coal-fired electric.
We're going to be shutting these plants down all across America.
No more drilling.
There is no more drilling.
I haven't got form any new new drilling.
Four years of offshore drilling.
No, I Atlantic or the Pacific, but in the Atlantic and off the Gulf of New Mexico, or off the Gulf of Mexico.
That was before I was president.
We're trying to work on that, get that done.
Now, if I had made a deal with Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden, and I went along with the Inflation Reduction Act, and Joe Manchin was already on record as saying that it wasn't a good idea in terms of the best interest of the economy to in fact go with the inflation reduction act.
Uh, he had made comments against it saying that's not the way to fight inflation.
And he makes the deal, he's promised that he's going to get a pipeline, a gas pipeline, I believe, uh out of his state to another state.
I think it was Virginia, I forget off the top of my head, but he was promised this pipeline.
And then as soon as he goes along with the inflation reduction act, they say, oh, sorry, never mind.
It's like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown every time he's about to kick it, you know, and he lands flat right on his back.
And I think it had to piss him off.
Now, after Joe Biden made the comments about shutting down coal plants all around the country, uh, you know what that will do to the economy of West Virginia?
It'll destroy it.
Or to say that we're not going to be drilling onshore, offshore, I'm ending it, like Joe Biden said.
He made those comments just before the election.
Now, Manchin did respond to the coal comments, and he was pissed, and he was pretty livid.
So I think Democrats are they're gonna be I'm certainly watching what Joe Manchin ends up doing here.
You know, liberal critics critics can trash Kristen Cinema all they want, they're calling her a traitor and every other name in the book that they can possibly think of.
Um Newsweek points out many right-leaning social media users are urging Manchin to similarly jump ship.
You know, Joe Manchin is up for re-election in 2024.
And if I'm Joe Manchin and I'm running in West Virginia, and my party is so adamantly opposed to domestic energy production, which is the entire economy of West Virginia for the most part, um, I'm thinking I'm uh this party has left me.
Democrats never had this extreme radical position.
On top of everything else, none of it makes sense.
Because, you know, we have enough coal resources, natural gas resources, oil resources that we can be energy independent.
We proved that when Trump was president.
We achieved energy independence, and that was good for the economy of West Virginia.
Now, what happens if Joe Biden says we're gonna shut down every coal plant, we're not gonna allow drilling anywhere.
One has to wonder what Joe Joe Manchin is gonna do here.
It would be in his best political interest if he left the Democratic Party and it became a Republican.
Or maybe he wants to follow suit with Kristen Cinnamon just be an independent and not attend weekly Democratic caucus meetings and not caucus with anybody.
You know, at that point, whoever's in charge, uh, I would imagine both of them will get the assignments they want because it's such a you know evenly split, you know, margin in the in the U.S. Senate.
Um, it's getting pretty interesting.
The White House is insisting that cinema's party switch doesn't change the balance of power in the Senate, but they don't know for sure.
I'm telling you right now, the phones are ringing off the hook on Kristen Cinema on her cell phone on her office phone because Democrats are in a total freak out over this.
They didn't see it coming.
I didn't see it coming for sure, but she won't say if her decision to leave the Democratic Party will change the balance of power.
But she kind of is saying that she's not caucusing with Democrats.
So I don't know.
I don't see the Christian cinema as a whole lot in common, or Joe Manchin has a whole lot in common with Chuck Schumer, uh, Joe Biden, and of course the new Green Deal radical socialist Democrats.
I just don't see it.
Um we have a lot of other news today.
We have Twitter Files 2.0 that was uh released last night.
It's it's getting more interesting by the day, it really is.
Because what we're witnessing now is is pretty unprecedented.
We really didn't anticipate that this was going to be as big and as monumental as it's now become.
Now, if you think back originally, what have we learned?
We learned from Elon Musk last Saturday himself, because he went online and he started talking to people and answering questions, and one of the things that he talked about was if you shut down opposing or dissenting voices, that is by its very definition election interference.
When questioned about why the media is ignoring the story, which they did over the Sunday programs last weekend, they only devoted a whopping seven seconds to it.
Uh he said the media, of course, is going to deny it because they're complicit to lying to the American public.
And then went as far as to say Twitter 1.0 before he purchased it, he's calling Twitter now 2.0, that basically Twitter was the propaganda arm for the entire Democratic Party or acting as such.
I mean, we now we know all of that is true.
But what's worse about this, and where this gets really, really dark in my view, is the government's involvement in all of this.
And that is the FBI not only warning Twitter, but every big tech company that there is a likelihood of disinformation, foreign actors, there's gonna be a hack and leak operation uh before the election, and they were having these weekly meetings with all these big tech companies.
Now the guy that was leading these meetings and organizing these weekly meetings is an FBI agent by the name of Elvis Chan.
Now, this guy was meeting with the big tech and supervisor is a special agent, FBI.
His postgraduate thesis claimed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help former President Donald Trump.
No wonder he got hired by the FBI.
That goes into the investigation of Jim Jordan, whether or not the FBI has been politicized.
Anyway, so he was the one organizing these meetings, and he was put under oath last week, as was Joel Roth, Twitter's former head of integrity, and Yo Roth was in these weekly meetings being warned about the hack and leak operation.
Basically, remember the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop since December of 2019.
They had 11 months before the 2020 election.
They also knew that Rudy Giuliani had a copy of it.
And they also knew that there was the high likelihood that that story was going to be leaked before the 2020 elections.
So they set up these weekly meetings, and they're not debunking whatever story is going to come out.
They're pre-punking it.
They're telling all these big tech companies, don't be a victim of misinformation campaigns by foreign hostile actors.
It's Probably hacked material and leaked material.
And then over at Twitter, the general counsel ends up being the guy that was the general counsel for the FBI during the Russia hoax, James Baker.
You can't make this stuff up.
So anyway, lo and behold, they're being warned.
Now, Yo Raw, to his credit, said they did mention it might be about Hunter by name.
But when questioned under oath, Elvis Chan, he couldn't remember if he ever brought up Hunter's name, which makes me very suspicious.
So in other words, they were telling these big tech companies ahead of time, oh, yeah, this is likely going to happen.
You don't want to be caught up in this.
You don't want to be disseminating false information.
And they end up taking one of the biggest true stories that they themselves could have corroborated and prevent you, the American people, from even looking at it prior to the election, knowing it would have had an impact on the election, and probably the result in the end, considering the election was so close, especially in three states that mattered.
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So that was Twitter one point that was the Twitter file 1.0.
Then we get the Twitter download from last night.
And a new batch of Twitter files released by Barry Weiss, the journalist, um, detailing Twitter 1.0.
This is not under Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is exposing all of this, but exposing the social media giant censorship campaign.
What we've learned is beyond appalling, unconscionable, but true.
And that is we have documents now proving that left-wing Twitter employees built blacklists of accounts that they didn't like and would quote prevent disfavored tweets from ever trending, actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics, all in secret, all without informing users about any of this.
Linda, when did we have Jack Dorsey on this program?
How many years ago was that?
It was a number of years ago.
Oh man, it's it's gotta be four or five years by now.
Okay, and remember I kept pressing him on the issue of shadow banning.
Remember that?
Oh, I remember.
We could probably pull the file up somewhere.
So anyway, if if a prominent doctor, there's one it was a prominent doctor from Stanford, uh, was secretly placed on the trending blacklist because he was arguing that COVID lockdowns would harm children.
Our friend Dan Bon Gino was put on a search blacklist, meaning it limited who could search for his profile or his own tweets.
That's uh Dan has known this forever, which is one of the reasons he tried so hard to get Parler as an alternative.
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So I got this story from a friend of mine, and I I I read the whole thing, and I just I frankly can't believe it.
It's sad it's uh it's now out there about a Detroit school uh that was honoring Dr. Ben Carson, removing the honor for Dr. Ben Carson.
And the language that they use in doing so is so beyond the pale.
For those of you that know Dr. Carson, he's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
He's gentle, he's calm, he's he's principled.
His life story is beyond inspiring.
Um anyway, so it's from the Detroit School Board memo overview.
Let me read this to you.
It says on November 15, 2022, the Detroit School Board approved changing the name of the Benjamin Carson High School of Science and Medicine to the Crockett Midtown High School of Science and Medicine, the new name to recognize uh Dr. Etheline uh Crockett, the first African American woman in Michigan to become board certified in OBGYN.
She's an OBJYN doctor, I assume.
Anyway, and then it had all these quotations.
One board member, Sherry uh Gay uh uh Dagnano said that she was she received so many requests from community members about uh Ben Carson's name, based on many of the disparaging remarks he made uh from the administration that he clings to.
Listen to this one.
It's it is synonymous with having Trump's name in our school in blackface.
That's actually in the filing, if you can believe this, this memorandum.
Former Detroit school board member uh Lamar Lemons telling the Washington Post when asked uh why is he leading the charge to remove Carson's name?
Quote Carson is doing Trump's bidding, and he has adversely affected the African American community in Detroit as well as the nation with his housing policies, and he said, as he has allied himself with the president uh that says he is a white nationalist that sends dog whistles, etc.
etc.
I I mean there is there is such hatred out there on the left, and I'll tell you, it's the the people that seem to bear the brunt of this hatred in a in a PC world, a woke world, it doesn't matter.
If you're African American and you're a conservative, it's just open season in terms of the the type of rhetoric that is used so often uh against African American conservatives.
Yeah, look, we saw this happening to Herschel Walker, and it's said on the media on a regular basis, and there's no outrage, there's no consequences.
We don't call for firings or boycotts or or cancellations or any of this stuff.
But I mean, if if you said it about any other individual group, it would never be tolerated.
It's the double standard stench that bothers me the most.
Anyway, so let's get back to this uh this Twitter issue and Twitter uh file leak 2.0 that took place.
Again, the newly unearthed document show that uh Twitter employees built out a blacklist of accounts that they didn't like.
Uh the purpose was to prevent disfavored tweets from ever trending, actively limiting the visibility of entire accounts or trending topics, quote, all in secret, all without informing users.
They brought up the example of this doctor that had argued that COVID lockdowns would harm uh kids.
That doctor was put on a trending blacklist.
I mentioned Dan Bonjino was put on a search blacklist, which means it would limit those that could search for his profile or his tweets.
Uh Twitter also blocked Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk.
His tweets from being quote amplified.
Apparently, Twitter handled up to 200 of these censorship cases each and every day.
Uh but as Weiss pointed out, Twitter repeatedly denied that they ever shadow banned.
Isn't that the very definition, Linda?
You're you're more tech savvy than I am.
Isn't that shadow banning?
It is.
That happened to you too.
I mean, it happened to many, many powerful conservatives of Witcher One.
Listen, that's why I asked Dorsey at the time.
Oh no, we don't do that.
Um we learned that.
But I don't know that he knew, Sean, honestly.
I mean, I've been going back and forth with a lot of people about this.
That was one interesting little side note in the first Twitter file release that Jack Dorsey didn't know.
However, in this release, we did learn that he was part of a hierarchy of of this secret group that they called featuring the company's highest ranked executives that would make the decisions in private without a paper trail to censor even ban high profile conservative accounts.
For example, uh there's a popular account.
Did you ever hear about the libs of TikTok account on Twitter?
Do you ever hear about them?
Oh, yeah.
They I look, I just as it's been years since I really have spent any time on it, so I stay away from it.
Anyway, it was suspended six times in this year alone in 2022, even though the account didn't violate any of Twitter's hateful conduct policies.
At the same time, the woman that runs quote libs of TikTok was doxxed on Twitter.
You know what doxing is when they give out the home address, and that that doxing was seen.
There were more than 10,000 likes on the doxing address of this of this woman, which by the way, to me is a threat and put somebody's life in jeopardy, or potentially could.
And Twitter then refused to even take that tweet down.
So what what Elon Musk said over the weekend was absolutely correct is that Twitter has evolved into an arm of the Democratic Party.
I mean, they've they're acting as the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
But can I give one piece of information that I don't think a lot of people know?
I don't even know if you know this.
But Jack, when Jack was at Twitter, he left for a little while.
And he was gone and he started the company Square, which has done amazingly well.
So Jack's not hurting, he's been a very successful entrepreneur and he's an incredible mind, you know, in and of his own right.
He came back to Twitter, and one of the things that he said is in his absence that the algorithm and the way that things were handled had been changed.
So much so that the AI technology behind it would take him forever to unravel.
And his idea of what was be to be considered, you know, free speech and a way of conversing short, sweetened to the point had been completely and totally suggesting he really didn't know anything about this.
I would say that nothing is is a bit of a stretch.
But I do think that you know, when nefarious people get together and have the support of one another and also have the backing of money and government and power and TV, that there's a lot that can be done.
And I don't know that he knew everything.
I think he knew some things.
I'm not saying he's innocent.
I just don't know that he knew else.
I mean, what I'm hoping happens as a result of this, Congress should get involved.
Republicans now have the house.
And I I think Zuckerberg, I think Facebook, I think what do they call it now?
Meta, whatever whatever they call these companies, Google.
Apple YouTube, Instagram.
I think they should all be transparent with their practices and what they're doing.
I'm I'm not on these platforms, so I don't know.
But all I do know is this is that combined, none of them allowed the New York Post story about Hunter Biden and his laptop to be disseminated on their very, very powerful sites, which ended up being a disservice and an influence on the 2020 presidential election.
Sean, we actually excuse me one second, we actually have a clip of Jack talking to you in 2018 about shadow banning.
You want to play it?
All right, go ahead.
Play it.
Let me ask about specific questions.
Has Twitter ever been involved in shadow banning?
We do not shadow ban according to political ideology or viewpoint or content.
Period.
Uh we every model that we have on the network uh is really looking at the behaviors on the network.
Uh we take those behaviors as signals.
And I do want to point out that these signals evolve uh minute like minute by minute, hourly by hourly.
These are not scarlet permanent letters that people then take on as a badge and will never be ranked high in search or not allowed to trend or ranked high in conversation.
So these are models that are looking at behaviors and behaviors of bad faith actors who intend to manipulate, distract, divide uh a conversation, um, or to unfairly amplify their content, which they didn't earn.
So those are the signals that Factor in.
Uh and and we do rank uh search, we do rank trends and we do rank conversations accordingly.
That does not affect one's timeline.
If you follow someone on Twitter, you're going to see them in your timeline.
Now we do uh rank the timeline for relevant, so it might take some scrolling to see everything.
But you can also turn that ranking off in the settings so you can see everything in recency order.
I mean, pretty fascinating, um, considering I know next to nothing about all this stuff, but uh but but I do know enough to say this is now you gotta look at the timeline here, and it it's so similar.
The FBI's involvement is what scares me the most in all of this.
The FBI now put all of these groups on high alert.
For example, the FBI warned Facebook to be on high alert for a dump of Russian propaganda before the 2020 election in terms of it being specific enough that it fit a pattern.
Now we know that because CEO Mark Zuckerberg told that to Joe Rogan in August.
So I'm putting pieces of the puzzle together here.
Now, that fits in perfectly with the story that was put out in the New York Post about how they had these weekly meetings with the FBI with and big tech, all of these big tech companies apparently, and that these big tech companies were being warned in the lead up to the 2020 election to watch and be on the lookout for what they called hack and leak operations.
In other words, probably uh you're gonna hear a story about Hunter, and again, the former head of site integrity for Twitter, Yoel Roth, said under oath when he was before the Missouri Solicitor General, as confirmed by Eric Schmidt, who was on the program this week, actually said that they that Hunter's name was mentioned specifically.
So all these companies were put on alert.
Oh, if you if you hear anything about a bad story about, say Hunter Biden, you know, be on the lookout.
It might be a hack and leak operation by a foreign actor.
And you gotta be on the lookout, be on high alert for a dump of Russian propaganda.
It's probably not going to be true.
You don't want to be disseminating misinformation before an election.
Uh, very similar to the 51 people, you know, these former Intel uh officials that all came out, wrote a letter saying, Oh, this has all the markings of Russian propaganda.
They they had no facts behind that at all whatsoever, but they made that claim, and people believe them.
That's the problem with it.
So the fact that the the FBI, and then we get a little deeper into this.
And the FBI agent that was organizing these weekly meetings with big tech was a supervisory special agent.
We told you who he is, his postgraduate thesis, his name is Elvis Chan, claimed that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help former president Donald Trump.
We know that's a lie.
We had somebody on the program earlier this week, the first Twitter file release, you know, now fired by Elon Musk, but he was the guy at the height of the the Russia hoax scandal, but he was telling Twitter to be very, very careful.
This has the potential.
It looks like it's very has the markings of being hacked.
Okay, even their own officials in the first Twitter file release pointed out that this hacking thing isn't gonna stand up.
Now, the the thing that should really frustrate people and really shows how involved the FBI was in this, is that the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop again since December of 2019.
They had 11 months before the election.
They also knew Rudy Giuliani had a copy.
So they knew the likelihood was pretty high that this information was gonna go public at some point.
And what they were doing in the lead up to the release of this information, which eventually came out through the New York Post, is warn all these big tech companies with the massive reach that they have that something like this would occur, and if it occurred, you gotta look at it as probably a dump of Russian propaganda or misinformation.
It could be hacked materials.
It's it's not like debunking, it's pre-bunking a story.
And and this is now what Elon Musk was saying when he pointed out that by shutting down dissenting voices, in other words, with all these big tech companies combined with the massive reach that they have, all aligning, all being told by our FBI not to disseminate this information and be on the lookout for this disinformation by shutting down these dissenting voices because all of that laptop turned out to be true.
And the I'm sure by that point that the FBI had already known that it was true.
That's another part of this.
Because all you have to do is open up the laptop, and there's, you know, naked pictures of Hunter Biden or uh with a hooker or or Hunter Biden smoking crack.
Uh, and now they've had this laptop for three years, nothing ever happens to Hunter Biden.
Uh I doubt that would happen to any prominent conservative or anybody with the last name Trump.
But this is the very definition of election interference.
And this is where the complicity of the news media comes in.
None of them want to talk about this.
They don't want to devote a single segment to this.
They're acting as if this story doesn't even exist because they don't care.
As a result, their guy didn't have three weeks before the election of having to defend and having to explain away how much money he might have gotten from Hunter's foreign business partners and why he lied to the American people when he said he never once talked to his son about his foreign business partners, is we got pictures of Joe, photo after photo after photo of Joe Hunter and his foreign business partners.
Like we have pictures, like we have dates and meetings of Joe and Hunter and foreign business partners that gained access through Hunter, and Hunter benefits without any experience and makes millions of millions of dollars.
It's called influence peddling.
Of course, they didn't want this story out.
The FBI now two presidential elections in a row have put their thumb on the scale in favor of Democrats.
The deep state has that much control.
That is scary for this country.
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