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Polls in Georgia - November 29th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh, one week from today is the Senate runoff in the great state of Georgia.
Now, nearly a quarter of a million people voted in Georgia on Monday, yesterday.
Uh, this on top of voting that took place over the weekend, about 187,000.
Uh, but they broke a record as of 445 yesterday, 239,160 votes for a single day.
So clearly, Georgia is engaged uh in terms of the runoff.
The the one fear I have is that what I was discussing yesterday, and I I saw a column that Selena Zito had written some time ago, how Democrats have mastered mail in balloting while Republicans will pay if they fail to step up.
And I go back to my comments yesterday, which is you know, you can wish for uh a national election day holiday, paper ballots only, you know, obviously absentee requests for military, the infirm, the elderly, people that are going to be away.
But you have partisan observers watching the vote taking place in every precinct, then the vote counting after the polls close in every precinct, and and then you get the results that night and you have voter ID and signature verification, and you're off to the races.
I mean, I think that would take away any questions of integrity or or whatever, and and even Arizona could fix their system.
Um but that that's the system we want.
That's not the system we have.
And as long as conservatives and Republicans uh they're not going to be on the same playing field as Democrats, they're going to continue to lose races that I think they otherwise would win.
Um, you know, I I don't believe you might remember Raphael Warnock talking about the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, talking about the GD America speech.
Listen to what he said about that.
But extracting from its theological and rhetorical context and looped to the point of ad nauseum was the most provocative phrase.
America.
The black church, so central to black life yet barely understood by mainstream America, was thrust to the center of the national dialogue.
To be sure, part of the disconnect in the national dialogue was cultural, as those unexposed to the worship and preaching of the black church sought to interpret the the bombastic character of black prophetic preaching as it is buoyed and heightened in the hooping moment by the emotive spirituality and exuberant and exuberant response of those in the pews who should show up to my church on a Sunday morning.
I mean, that's just one thing.
And now, you know, why is it Democrats don't want voter ID?
You need an ID for everything.
You want to buy a beer, you need an ID.
You want to go visit your congressman, your senator at the Capitol, you need an ID.
You want a bottle of wine, you need an ID.
Pack of cigarettes, if you smoke, you need an ID.
If you want to buy an e-sig for crying out loud, you need a voter, you know, not a voter ID, you need a picture ID, excuse me.
Anyway, why is this guy so against voter ID laws?
And why does he say they're about voter suppression?
When they're trying to make voting harder and harder.
Trying to cut down early voting.
Because they they saw your strength.
Dealing with these voter ID laws.
This is not about voter verification.
This is about modal suppression.
They're still playing the same game.
And then, of course, you know, the same guy says you can't serve the military and serve God at the same time.
Listen to this one.
America, nobody can serve God and the military.
You can't serve God and money.
You cannot serve God and Norman at the same time.
America choose ye this day, whom you will serve.
Choose ye this day.
Well, the same guy that said America should repent for its whiteness and referring to the police as bullies, gangsters, and thugs.
Anyway, I don't know how to interpret these numbers.
Uh it looks like we might be doing a town hall on Thursday.
It's not a hundred percent, but it looks like we will be.
We'll let you know.
Uh Matt Towery is with us.
Uh, he formerly ran for lieutenant governor, was in the state legislature in Georgia.
Uh Robert Kerhale with the Trafalgar group is with us.
Um, I don't know what to make of the early voting numbers.
Um, I worry that the Democrats have an advantage because they have embraced this new system of voting that now is pretty much uh standard around the country.
And and I think the Republicans have been resistant to mail-in voting, they've been resistant to early voting.
Matt Towery, what do you see?
Well, I I have some updated numbers.
Uh as of one o'clock today, uh 695,000 people had voted early in Georgia.
So you're right, the the early voting is very robust.
Um it of that number, about 36 percent uh of the vote was uh African American, white was fifty-one percent.
Uh those numbers are tracking a little bit above in terms of the African American vote, the early vote, which was so robust in the in the 2020 general.
So really right now, Sean, I can tell you uh the Democrats are outperforming uh the general by about uh anywhere to of the total vote, probably two to three percent.
I right now I think Warnock probably has an eighty thousand to a hundred and fifteen thousand vote advantage.
The Republicans are going to have to turn out in mass uh to to pull off a victory against them and and they're going to have to do it not just on election day, but they're going to have to get out an early vote in big, big numbers.
Well, I I don't disagree, but doesn't the number tend to go down?
My understanding was, for example, and again, I'm only looking at demographics and and past history as it relates to Georgia and other states.
Um I I think on day one it was forty-eight percent of African Americans showing up for the vote.
Am I right about that?
Now it's cumulative down to 36, and those numbers tend to decrease as the days go on.
Right.
That's what we saw, uh Sean, uh, in the early voting in 2020 in the 2022 general.
But these numbers, I look at them as apple to apple comparisons.
These numbers are higher by a percentage by the number of votes this time with African American vote than they were in the general.
So I'm just saying, and and we know that that generally speaking, uh Walker may get around 15, even 18% of the African American vote, but the vast majority is going to go to Warnock, and the white vote is not going in the direction of Republicans like it used to in Georgia.
So this is a winnable race for Hersal Herschel Walker, but it has got to be an all hands on deck turnout like never before by the Republican Party.
What's your take, Robert Cahale?
Yeah, I'd say the same thing.
Um, you know, what you said before about the Democrats who embrace the system, they've not only embraced the system, they helped create the system and they know how to play it.
And it's a it is a system that incorporates uh ballot harvesting, and they are very good at this.
You know, because the whole point of what we're you're out there doing is you're trying to get people to turn out who who the Republican playbook is let's focus on people who turn out elections and are excited.
Well, what this system does is take people who are unexcited and unlikely to vote for a ballot, not laid in front of them.
And so when the Republicans learn to to deal with that and to make sure that that they are doing the same type of effort, we're we're not going to see this this kind of result.
Because that's they keep focusing on people that again would not naturally vote if not prompted.
And this is where the Republican Party is is is falling down and not recognizing that you've got to go beyond just the likely voters and create likely voters.
Um it's really the voting system.
I mean, and and I just I understand people's reluctance and resistance, but if Republicans, and tell me if you both think I'm wrong here, Robert, I'll give you first crack at this, that if Republicans and conservatives, if they if they don't eliminate this reluctance and resistance, and I know why they may do it, maybe they think, well, if I vote by mail, that doesn't guarantee my vote's gonna be counted.
Uh if I vote early, am I uh am I risking my vote not being counted?
Um so they have this in their head, whether it's legitimate or not.
That's a discussion for another day.
However, if the Democrats have embraced this, they own it, they work it, they're doing it better every election.
If the Republicans don't catch up, I fear that they can lose, you know, a lot of races down the road because of this resistance.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's it's it's very simple logic.
If you were trying to put together a family trip and you had one day to put it together, or you had a week to put it together, you'd pick a week because you can get certain people to come and then start narrowing down your list.
Well, when the Republicans refuse to participate in the early voting, We're just banking everything on one day instead of using the system to our advantage.
And it it's got to change because you're going to continue to see Republicans surprised and everybody's surprised because people who would be reluctant to actually make the effort to vote are now voting and voting pretty regularly.
Yeah, Matt, let's what's your take on that?
Well, let me be very blunt.
All of this money that's been promised to Herschel Walker in support of him in Georgia.
Where in the heck is it?
I was in Georgia for three days.
I grew up in Georgia.
I'm a native of Atlanta.
I live in Florida now.
I went back.
I saw ad after ads for Warnock, and the only ads I really saw that were any good were the ones that Herschel Walker's own campaign produced.
I want to know where the money is to get and go gather these votes like the Democrats do.
I want to see what the plan is.
I want to know what's happening.
Because, you know, we've had this criticism year after year on this show, Sean, of the fact that the Republicans simply don't fight tough enough.
And Robert is completely right.
Whether you want to call it ballot harvesting, which by the way is completely illegal in Georgia, but we know still goes on.
Or whether you want to call it efficient vote collection.
That there's been no change in in the system.
I know everybody thinks Georgia's system is sick.
The Cab County still has 20 drop boxes around where anybody can throw ballots in.
And until the Republicans decide to throw ballots in there, just like the Democrats do, this is going to continue to be a problem.
And the Democrats will continue to fight for other reforms.
For example, they don't want voter ID, they don't want signature verification.
Uh, you know, some states what have 50 days of early voting.
What why do we have voting three hundred and sixty-five days a year?
Just go in any time you feel like it and vote.
Uh to me, this is insane.
Robert, there's got to be more integrity to the process so people have confidence in the results.
And there's got to be a change in strategy.
I mean, it it it is it is amazing to be in Georgia and to watch what's going on.
When the Republicans talk about get out the vote, I mean to get on TV and they just got to buy tons and tons of broadcast TV.
When the Democrats talk about getting out the vote, it means it it stands for get on the van.
And that's the kind of operation they've been doing.
I I I read somewhere they had over a thousand operatives on the ground.
Well, you know, they just blew 250 million dollars on all these Senate races uh around the country with Ms. McConnell's group.
And the you know, when you look at the okay, Duron Johnson probably would have lost without their money, but Ted Budd would have won anyway, and JD Vance would have won anyway.
So I mean, look and then they ignored Masters who had a chance, and then actually spent money beating up uh uh a bulldock before the primary and didn't bother to salvage him.
So I don't know what they're spending this money on, but we've got to learn that just buying a bunch of ads on TV doesn't win elections.
This is that people are tuning that stuff out.
You get on any kind of streaming service, you're seeing all the stuff the Democrats and the Republicans are nowhere to be found.
They don't understand grassroots, and they don't understand the new way people are watching TV and everything else, and they're just missing the whole vote.
All right, quick break more without polsters.
Matt Towery, Robert Cahaley, and then your calls.
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All right, we continue with our polsters looking at the state of Georgia one week from today.
Matt Towery, Robert Cahaley with us.
We've all talked about this over exuberance that existed.
Um except for maybe a couple of races, you guys kept saying that these races are close within one or two points within the margin of error.
And and I would argue that the margin of error often tips the balance to the Democrats because they've embraced the new system of voting.
Is that a fair assumption, Matt?
Yes, I think that's very fair.
And I don't want voters to be discouraged.
I have seen moments occur when Republicans have been trampled on and they suddenly get their backbone up and they turn out in droves, not just on election day, but before that.
And this may be one of these instances.
Herschel Walker is a very inspiring candidate for the Republicans.
And there are a lot of reasons why he he should be a very strong candidate if it is a very strong candidate.
I just believe that that it's going to have to come from that from the soul of the actual individual voters, because if you rely on this broken down, rotten Republican system we have that does not work of consultants and advisors, we won't win.
So people are going to have to do it on their own and not rely on getting their instructions from these Washington, D.C. uh magicians.
I I ironically, Republicans have to embrace the system in order to get the ultimate changes to the system by electing governors and state legislatures that that will put in place integrity measures that will will give confidence in a lot of states.
Now, we have plenty of states that have early voting and and and they still have these integrity measures in place, and then we have states that don't.
Uh but this get out the vote effort, I I think Republicans have fallen short, which is part of the reason why those people that were predicting these these massive landslides of which I was not a part of.
I am telling the people of Georgia right now today, and I want to know that that Herschel Walker can win this race, but you've got to assume as of right now that the Democratic get out the vote machine built up by Stacy Abrams and Raphael Warnock is in full force right now.
And unless you match it, vote for vote, and then and then some, then you're not going to get the result that you're hoping for, and we won't have a 50-50 Senate.
Bear, do you both agree?
Last question.
Robert.
I absolutely I agree.
And I think the most important thing is everybody needs to pay attention to what they're doing in this lame duck session.
And if you like what the U.S. Senate doing in the lame duck session, then put Rafael Warnock back in there.
All right, last word, Matt.
If I were instructing how to get Herschel elected, I would say that this.
If you live in Metro Atlanta and you think that one of your neighbors thinks they fit in at the country club and that somehow Herschel Walker doesn't meet their stereotype of who they want in their club, but they know he would vote the right way.
You need to call them out on it and say the Senate is more important than who you would let your little country club or not letting your country club.
People are voting their self-image instead of their self-interest.
All right, appreciate you both.
We'll see.
Uh we'll know a week from today, it's going to be election day in Georgia.
Here we go again.
Uh, just when you think you're out, well, you're back right back in the middle of it.
But uh, it's interesting to see these high numbers of uh this high number of turnout, and hopefully that ultimately switches to a Republican advantage.
We'll see in good time.
Uh but I'm not taking anything for granted.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh let's say hi to Keith is in the great state of Pennsylvania where they have John Fetterman as their senator in waiting.
How are you, sir?
Oh, yeah, great day with Fetterman.
Uh, I'm I'm doing great, Sean.
Hey, I wonder it might end up being entertaining, but it's gonna be bad for the country.
Uh, there's an article today that he's for the little guy, the working man, when he never worked in his life.
It's incredible.
Trust fund Brad No Hoodie, we called it, but you know what?
Apparently uh it didn't get out enough in Pennsylvania.
But anyway, what's on your mind today?
Well, um last April, NPR, Washington Times AP ran a story, and the title was Biden Increases Oil Royalty Rate and scales back lease sales on federal lands.
What he did was he increased from one eighth, which was the traditional royalty paid by oil drillers to drill on federal lands to 18.75%.
He increased it 50%.
So if you are getting $100 a barrel and you drill on federal lands, you're paying $18 and 75 cents into the federal government.
That eliminates about 90% of the potential drilling sites on federal lands.
So and then he comes out before the election, he says, Oh, I'm all about uh drilling on federal lands, and I've increased the leases and on and on and on.
He should have lowered that royalty rate paid.
Well, wait a minute, but that's not what he said at the end of the campaign.
And this directly impacts not only West Virginia and Ohio, but your state of Pennsylvania.
This is what he said about coal, and this is what he said about drilling.
No one's building new coal plants because they can't rely on it.
Even if they have all the coal guaranteed for the rest of the existence of the plant.
So it's going to become a wind generation.
And all they're doing is you're gonna save them a hell of a lot of money and using the same transmission line that transmitted the coal fire.
Electric on.
We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America.
No more drilling.
There is no more drilling.
I haven't got for them any new new drilling.
Four years of absolutely Pacific, but in the United New Mexico Mexico.
That was before I was president.
We're trying to work on that, get that done.
No drilling, no new coal plants.
We're gonna shut down the coal plants that we have.
Uh okay, but then we'll but we'll beg Venezuela.
Go ahead.
Sean, the federal government owns over 900 million acres, almost a billion acres of land in this country.
Most people don't understand that.
It's over a third of the land in this country.
And to put that much re that many resources under their thumb and under their control is a scary, scary thing.
In Pennsylvania, we have a moratorium on drilling on state lands, which is four or five million acres, and that was all Governor Wolf.
Governor Corbett was bringing in millions.
Now there's a moratorium on state lands.
But one thing President Trump did that wasn't great, he signed the Great American Outdoors Act, and he was trying to, you know, listen to Cory Gardner and some of the other rhinos because they wanted to get re-elected, and they thought they'd get the environment environmentalist vote.
$880 million a year in that bill for the feds to buy up more private property.
It's insanity.
I cannot believe that that happened.
And I was talking to a few of the Trump people at some of the Republican events uh this past year, and they said they tried to talk to him and just say, please don't sign that.
But $880 million a year, the feds have to buy out more land when the same Republicans are screaming about, you know, there's no drilling on federal lands, but yet they're giving the money to buy more land.
It doesn't make any sense, and it's got to stop.
We've got to wake up.
Hopefully, this Congress can somehow reel that back in and stop this continued elimination of private property.
Listen, this is where win in the House is so important, and you can't underestimate the how critical that win was.
Maybe not the years some had been predicting.
It doesn't matter.
They now have the power of the purse, and but the their challenge is going to be whether they stick together.
We're going to see this.
There are five hard no's against Kevin McCarthy.
If they if they get two cute by half, the Democrats will pick the next speaker.
So they better get their act together and realize we're going to live and die together.
And at any moment, I don't at the end of the day, it it's not going to matter who's speaker.
If if any four or five Republicans want to kill something, they're going to be able to kill it.
So they they've got to understand they all have an equal amount of power.
They need to get in a room, hammer out their differences, hammer out an agenda, serve the people uh of their respective districts, and and use the power of subpoena, the power of the purse, and do their job.
It's really that simple.
But they got to understand this this is why the Democrats were as successful as they were with the same margin in the House with under Nancy Pelosi.
Uh anyway, appreciate it.
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Dave, how are you?
Glad you called.
What are you doing in New York?
You should get out of here like everyone else.
Oh, yeah.
Well, well, and I should be right in the I should be right behind you in my own view-hall.
What?
Yeah, well, yeah.
Yeah, but you're not going to want to go where I am.
I'm in California.
But I wanted to share say that the what the red movement or failure, people keep on bringing up.
I am so happy.
It's like winning the Super Bowl.
Okay, so we did win by two touchdowns, but we won.
We now control the House.
That means we are going to open every bucket of worms that all Biden's done, McConnell, whose wife, by the way, went to the same high school that I went to, who's in charge with the China with a really small China shipping company, which I wonder what she's doing now with that company.
But anyway, um, it's gonna expose them all.
And they could play the fifth, but when they question the IRS to back their claims, it's gonna be obvious that they lied to the IRS, and then it's gonna open another bucket of worms.
So this is really great notice.
Oh, people that are so disappointed.
I am not.
We won the Super Bowl.
I couldn't be happier.
And um as far as Herschel Walker's concerned, why don't they have a news conference led by Mitch McConnell and have uh Warnoff's FY ex-wife uh as a speaker there?
That would be a pretty Trumpian move, in my opinion.
Well, I'm from New York, that's what we do.
So um remember when uh Trump at the um after the access Hollywood um video came out, and then he had the debate with Hillary, and you know, right there in the front row was Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones and Kathleen Woolley.
That was a pretty powerful moment and statement at the same time.
Right.
And that's so why doesn't McConnell do that?
Why don't they have an announcement and everybody will be watching it?
It's actually be for free.
All the news organizations will cover it, and everybody's gonna watch it.
And then they're gonna have to report on it.
You know what I mean?
So that's best name Walker could do right now.
Forget about giving the money.
Well, I'm not gonna say forget to give you the money, but that is be more powerful than anything else, I think.
Well, I tell you right now, there's a lot the Republicans need to learn moving forward, and if they don't learn, they're gonna continue to lose.
That's it.
Uh important races that they otherwise could win.
Uh, we'll go to Atlanta, Georgia.
Jeff on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Jeff, how are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you doing today?
I'm good, sir.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
Hey, I just wanted to echo the sentiments of your previous guest.
I believe it was Matt.
He said he was in Atlanta over the weekend, and he noticed uh some things about the about the race between uh Herschel and Raphael.
And I gotta tell you, the number of television commercials Raphael runs, he he's out, he's outperforming Herschel's campaign by three or four commercials to one.
I don't I don't know where the Republican Party's at and where they're spending their money, but it it's sure not here in Atlanta and Georgia.
Yeah, I you know, that's that's bewildering to me.
You would think they would have gone all in.
I have no idea who's doing what, where, and how.
I have no idea who's running the campaigns.
I have no idea who's in charge of anything.
You know, that that's on them.
I mean, you know, I could point out for the pub for public consumption, the information that I have.
I have a you know, I have a whole op research stack on on Warnock, and none of it is any good.
I mean, I I did that all through the general campaign.
It was a very close election day uh race.
Uh they're in this runoff.
It's an opportunity for Republicans to make it 50-50, and I would think that every Republican would be going all in for Herschel, uh, because it would help the entire country out.
Never mind the aspects that have I'm Joe Manchin, and I'm looking at my approval ratings, and I got 15 knives in my back by Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden recently.
Uh, and Joe Biden talking about coal the way he is, that every coal plant is gonna be shut down, and that he's not gonna get the pipeline he was promised when he went along with the so-called inflation reduction act.
I I would think he's ripe for switching parties, especially with his election coming up in two years.
But, you know, what do I know?
I'm just a dumb talk show host, right?
I don't know.
I think Republicans were asleep at the wheel right now.
So they better wake up if you're in Georgia and you're a Republican, you know, you got to assume that early voting is gonna favor Warnock and get your ass out there, and you may not like early voting and you may not like mail in voting, but if you don't accept it, then you're giving them a massive advantage and you're increasing the odds that you lose.
So that's my message to people.
You're gonna get the government you deserve.
I've never been Pollyanish.
I I really shuddered this this over-exuberant talk of so many, because I knew every one of these states were swing states and bellwether states, and I knew everyone was hard to win.
One of my main uh observations of 2022 is voting is now different in America.
Democrats have embraced the new system, and Republicans, you know, have not.
And as a result, Democrats are banking these large massive amounts of votes in the lead up to election day, and then Republicans have a difficult task of trying to catch up.
They they can't play that game that way anymore.
Until you get the system you want, you gotta deal with the system you're living with.
You you go if somebody declares war on you, you're gonna fight with the army you have, not the one you wish you have.
So it's the same thing, same principle.
Anyway, appreciate it.
800 nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get back to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Tammi's in Connecticut.
Hey Tammy, how are you?
Hello, Sean.
It's so finally good to speak to you.
I'm freaking out a little bit on the inside.
We love Linda.
It the whole show is amazing.
Thank you so much for that.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
Why are you freaking out?
Oh my goodness, because I'm finally getting it to speak with you.
Oh yeah.
We see you every evening on TV.
So this is kind of I put one one pant leg on at a time, just like you do.
There's no difference.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's that's awesome.
Well, thank you so much for taking the call.
I was listening yesterday and I just um wanted to call him because I was listening to the gentleman who was uh describing his experience with this COVID and the vaccine between him and his wife.
So I have a quick story to share about my eighty-eight year old mother.
Um last spring, spring of twenty twenty, our entire immediate family caught COVID, including her.
We went the holistic route, we searched out an online um website with doctors that would prescribe the monoclonal and the ivermectin and hydroxy and all of that.
Umly one person in the immunity family chose to do the vaccines.
We all breezed through it fairly well.
Some of us did the ivermectin.
My mom, we actually got the script for the monoclonal for her, because we were a little concerned.
She had a little cough, that was it.
Um the one person in my family that got vaccinated ended up in bed for over a week, sick as a dog.
So we all scratched our head about that a little bit, and they were very upset.
But um, be that as it may.
Fast forward to Thanksgiving of last year, my mom unfortunately had stroke.
So she went into the hospital, the vaccine was not pushed on her.
Um, and then we searched out a nursing home because we realized she had to have long term care to um to make sure that she can get into one that did not force the vaccine, and we found one locally, it's a really beautiful one, and she's doing well there.
This past month, uh, I guess a strain went through the nursing home.
Most of the residents and some of the staff caught COVID.
Mom never been vaccinated or boosted, mind you, didn't even realize she was sick.
The people wouldn't have known unless they were swabbing everybody.
She was negative within four days of her test uh without taking anything except I insisted on like was the you were talking about yesterday, the vitamin D, the zinc, the vitamin C, and we also added NAT and Kircetin, which are two other anti-inflammatory supplements.
The doctor was very pompous with me, was pushing me for the path pathlovics, however you pronounce that.
It's Paxlavid.
I'm not against Paxlovid.
Um Paxlovid, the only there's a danger with Paxlovid, and we saw it with Fauci Joe and Jill Biden is 25% of people that test that take it, uh you tend to reduce significantly your any odds of going to a hospital or or or getting in in real trouble.
But 25% of people after they test negative, four or five, six days later, they'll they'll test positive again.
And it's called a rebound effect, and it's it's fairly common with Paxlovid.
And I'm, you know, I'm not a doctor, so I'm not telling people what to do, but um I monoclonal antibodies are the gold standard to me.
It was great, but with the Paxlovid, the quick point on that was he was pushing it.
I pushed back, and after the fact, the nurse pulled me aside and said that you know they can't say anything because of the doctors, but she was really happy that I refused it from my mom.
She said that it's a rough drug, especially on the elderly, and it's causing kidney problems and could cause some internal bleeding.
Um, that no one's no one's speaking up and saying anything.
So that's my little story.
And I just, you know, wanted to encourage people, obviously, like you say, if you have a good relationship with a doctor, go talk to them.
But they don't know everything, and you have to just follow the document.
You have to do your own research.
There's no doubt about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why we put so many different doctors with different opinions on, even people that I did disagreed with, so that people can make an informed decision and more importantly, ask their own doctors because they have their own unique medical condition and history uh the right questions and and it was amazing to me how many people got in touch with us what was that thing Hannity said over and over again monocom monolucleosis you know and they'd come up with crazy names and then we would tell them and they would then ask their own doctor anyway I'm glad your your mom's
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