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Senator Mike Lee - September 22nd, Hour 2
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You know, we don't think about this, but we have $31 trillion in debt.
Joe Biden goes to the UN yesterday, I'm going to spend $369 billion on climate change and another $200 billion on the cost of food.
Now, the Senate is dealing with their spending bill right now, the continuing resolution is what they call.
And we'll get to Senator Mike Lee of Utah in a minute because he wants what's called a clean continuing resolution where they don't dump all this pork barrel spending into a bill.
And okay, I'll support your $400 billion if you support my $300 billion.
And we'll pass it now because all the pressures to get spending so the government doesn't shut down.
I mean, it's insanity.
Anyway, let's go to Biden yesterday at the UN.
Here's what he said.
I've signed a historic piece of legislation here in the United States that includes the biggest, most important climate commitment we have ever made in the history of our country: $369 billion toward climate change.
That includes tens of billions in new investments in offshore wind and solar, doubling down on zero-emission vehicles, increasing energy efficiency, supporting clean manufacturing.
Our Department of Energy estimates that this new law will reduce U.S. emissions by one gigaton a year by 2030.
It is impossible, as we've been talking about, in the foreseeable future.
We don't have the technology to get where they're forcing us to go at a point where we're not technologically advanced to do so.
By the way, and I am an all-of-the-above guy.
If you can give me cheaper, cleaner energy and produce it on a mass scale and do it easily, you're going to be a trillionaire, never mind a billionaire.
So whoever comes up with that technology, but in the near future, and I'm talking about 10, 20, 30 years, we don't have the ability to get the energy that this country needs, which is the lifeblood of every country's economy to be renewable energy independent.
It just doesn't exist.
That new electric vehicle is $22,000 more than a gas-powered vehicle.
Then, of course, you got to pillage Mother Earth and mine out the minerals like cobalt and nickel and manganese, etc.
And you're going to use big, heavy equipment that uses a lot of diesel to get the minerals out of the earth.
And then, of course, the electric grid is 90% fossil fuels.
When you charge your electric vehicle, except in California, where a lot of hours in the day you can't because they don't have the ability to power them, it's coming from fossil fuels.
I mean, it is insanity at a level I've never heard.
You know, telling people that Americans now suffering, average couple paying $6,800 per couple per year because of Biden inflation to go buy an electric vehicle when two-thirds of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck is by definition insanity.
Anyway, Senator Mike Lee of Utah is with us.
He has put out a letter and it's calling for a clean, continuing resolution.
This is just part of the problem.
Senator, welcome to the program again.
And by the way, we are fully endorsing, supporting your candidacy and your reelection in the great state of Utah as you go up against the guy that claims he's an independent and he's nothing short of a Biden-Schumer Democrat, Egg McMuffin, as my friend Rod R. Keck calls him out in Salt Lake City.
Exactly.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Thanks for having me on your show, and thanks for your support.
Yeah, I'm in a tough race, and I can use all the help I can get.
By the way, it only may be a little tough, and I'll tell you why, because the guy you're running against is a phony.
He's not being honest with the people of Utah.
That's my take on him.
Right.
And not all of them know that.
It's my job to make sure that the people of Utah know what they're voting for.
And I need help to do that.
So anyone who wanted to help can help me at Leaforsenate.com.
We need that seat desperately.
And I know you're going to win, but I take nothing for granted.
Exactly.
Taking nothing for granted at all.
Nor are we taking anything for granted about spending.
You're exactly right.
The cost of living has escalated to unacceptable degrees.
In Utah, inflation is even worse than it is in many other places.
In fact, it's worse than it is almost anywhere else.
Inflation has gone up 15.6% since the beginning of last year.
As a result, the average Utah family is spending an additional $925 a month every month just to meet their basic needs.
This is an average annual household cost in excess of $11,000 just relative to January of last year.
All of this, Sean, is the result of out-of-control spending by Congress.
Congress spending too much money under Joe Biden's direction with the help of Chuck Schumer.
And it's one of the many reasons why we've got to stop Evan McMullen from being elected to the Senate, where he could be Chuck Schumer's 51st vote and Joe Biden's guy.
But in order to fight this fight right now, we need to pass a clean, continuing resolution that will keep the government funded through sometime in January of 2023.
The reason for that is I believe that the Republicans are going to take the majority, at least in one House.
I believe probably both.
And if that happened in either one House, we'll have more bargaining power.
We won't have to engage in the same spending orgy that we will otherwise face if we try to pass an omnibus spending bill during the lame duck period between the election and the time the new Congress takes over.
That's why I'm encouraging my colleagues to push this sort of clean CR.
Let's just pass a clean CR taking us into January.
No lame duck spending.
We shouldn't have that.
All right.
I explained that.
And I'll tell you what I'm disappointed about, and it has nothing to do with you.
So you write your colleagues and you say, as the fiscal year comes to a close, we look to fund the government.
We must use our spending power to ensure that we do not enable the Biden administration's reckless progressive agenda to move forward.
We must not accept anything short of a clean CR continuing resolution that contains no additional spending or extraneous policy writers.
At a minimum, any agreement on a clean CR must carry over into the beginning of the 118th Congress.
Failure to stand strong against lame duck spending and caving to the Democrats will likely worsen inflation, prolong the current economic recession, advance policies contained in the Biden administration's progressive wish list, meaning new Green Deal, and the American people cannot afford another Washington feeding frenzy.
We must not let them down.
Look, I'm reading, and you've got, all right, six of you that signed it on page one, and you've got eight of you that signed it on page two.
That's not enough in terms of Republicans.
Why isn't every Republican on board with you on this?
That's a good question.
I've presented it to the whole conference.
I've pitched it widely.
I can tell you with a lot of confidence there were other people who agree with the message, but who, for one reason or another, opted not to sign it.
I actually think most members of our conference agree with it.
I'm also confident that if we could put a clean CR on the floor right now, and Chuck Schumer called it up for a vote, a clean CR would pass.
And that's why we need to have that.
I'd love to have every member of the conference on board with this letter.
The important point, Sean, is that we do everything we possibly can to avoid a lame duck spending bill.
Because what that would mean is that in the very likely event that we win majority in at least one House of Congress, maybe even both, we can't surrender what the American people have just given us, which is the power to stand up to Biden's excessive spending demands on Congress, the power to stand up for the American people by pushing back on more DC spending.
What did you hear with a lame duck spending bill?
Okay, so Biden goes to the UN yesterday, and on the day that, day after, Vladimir Putin is threatening to use nuclear weapons and says he means what he says, pretty scary scenario, and his back is against the wall, and a lot of his friends seem to be showing up dead lately, so who knows what he's capable of.
He goes to the UN and he focuses most of the speech on climate alarmism and climate cultism.
Now, he went back in the Paris Accords and that we pay the bulk of money as we are designated as a top economy in the world, but yet China and India are rated as developing nations and pay next to nothing.
Can you explain why any U.S. president would not require China and India to have the same classification as us?
It defies reason.
It defies logic to suggest that China should be deemed a developing nation by the United Nations.
In fact, the United Nations has itself acknowledged that China is a highly developed population.
Even under the UN's own definition, they're highly developed, and yet we're subject to some international agreements, including the Montreal Protocol and the amendment to that protocol known as the Kigali Amendment, which the Senate ratified yesterday as a treaty.
It did so against my objecting vote, notwithstanding the fact that this protocol still classifies China as a developing country.
And as a developing country, it's not required to comply with the same burdens that the United States will face.
In fact, it's given an additional 10 years to comply with significant restrictions on the emission of hydrofluorocarbons.
Now, they adopted an amendment that I introduced declaring that China is not a developing country and saying that it shouldn't be treated as a developing nation by the UN.
I wanted them to go a step further and had introduced another amendment that would have required that as a condition for ratifying the treaty.
They didn't get that part.
But think about this, Sean.
They're not a developing nation because China is the world's largest manufacturer.
China is the world's largest emitter of greenhouse gases.
China is the world's largest lending nation.
And those are all things that are entirely incompatible with the notion that they're developing and that they need funds provided by the U.S. to improve their environmental record or that they need 10 additional years to comply with the exacting demands of an international treaty that we've now ratified.
This is insane.
It's absurd.
And it's giving an undue competitive advantage to Chinese firms over American firms by giving them benefits we don't have under this false pretense that they're a developing country.
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You know, I look at China and I look at not only the coronavirus, the Wuhan virology lab, but I watch China.
We see their open hostility towards Taiwan, flying their fighter jets over Taiwan airspace, threatening even the Speaker of the House to shoot a plane out of the sky.
It wasn't like that under Donald Trump.
I think President Qi had a healthy fear of President Trump.
So it kind of pushed him back.
He wasn't as aggressive.
Putin wasn't as aggressive.
Kim Jong-un, the Mullows weren't as aggressive.
And then I see China is buying up all of this land.
Have you been reading about this?
Buying up a lot of ranch land, a lot of farmland, and a lot of land that happens to be around U.S. military installations.
Why would we ever allow a hostile regime like China to be buying land in our country?
Well, to be buying land and to be buying land through state-owned enterprises.
It's one thing if these weren't just individuals doing it who happen to have some connection to China, but when you've got a state-owned enterprise by China buying up land, and especially if that land is very near a sensitive military installation or something like that, that's something that we've got to be prepared to block.
There are means by which we can do that.
I have to hope and expect our administration will take the steps in order to do that where appropriate.
But the underlying concern also remains separate and apart from those.
But we've been giving China a pass on all sorts of things.
We give China a pass on these international environmental obligations, for example.
It's not fair to the American people.
And by the way, what kind of message does that send to the rest of the world?
When President Biden has a chance to speak at the UN, and instead of talking about Russia's aggression, about the evil that is Vladimir Putin, the threat that he presents not only to the United States and to Ukraine, but to the rest of the world, about China's horrible aggressive behavior in the South China Sea relative to Taiwan and otherwise.
Instead, he goes to speak there, and he chooses to talk about how the United States is choosing essentially unilaterally to disarm when it comes to energy.
That's a disgrace.
It's absolutely silly.
And the policies that he's pushing, the cutbacks in what he claims will be a reduction of however many gigatons of carbon there is.
You know what he never says?
He never tells us what that will translate into in terms of a reduction in global temperature.
He never says that because he can't.
Because they don't have the science to back it up, Senator.
Listen, we're just short on time.
By the way, Crown Burger's on me.
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Your election, now, Utah, you might think, okay, well, Utah is reliably Republican.
You have Egg McMuffin, as my buddy Rod R. Kick calls him, is running a phony campaign to deceive the people of Utah into thinking that he's not going to caucus with the Democrats and the radical socialists in Washington.
They will.
So Senator Mike Lee's reelection is crucial if Republicans have any chance of taking back the Senate.
We're going to follow this race closely.
Senator, thanks for being with us.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, Sean.
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Interesting exchange.
You know, one of the top issues for Democrats this election year is on the overturning of Roe v.
Wade.
In other words, that states will decide what restrictions, if any, they would have on the issue of abortion.
And, you know, liberal states like California, by the way, Gavin Newsom is out there now with campaigns, putting up billboards in red states saying, come to California to get your late-term abortion.
I'm like, okay, great.
Is that a new tourism tactic of California?
But anyway, states, I think they'll end up probably where Mississippi, the Dobbs case, where they were looking to go, which is probably around 15 weeks.
We know very early on in pregnancy, you can detect a heartbeat.
And anyway, I had never heard, if you follow the science, I was shocked the Today show today actually made the case that young developing fetuses, children in the womb, can in fact experience taste.
Listen to this exchange.
Wait, so you guys have to see this.
Have you heard about this?
So this morning, we wanted to show you, just subject, some amazing baby faces.
Look at this.
So researchers in Britain wanted to know if babies in the womb react when the mom ingests a flavor of food.
And this is what they saw.
Do you want to guess what was on the left?
So, the left is a baby in its resting state.
And then on the right, you see how he smiles 20 minutes?
The mom ate some carrots.
On the left with the there was just a resting state.
That was a resting, but he liked the carrots.
She had like a carrot pill.
So, were there other foods?
Yes, there were other foods.
I'm glad you asked.
You want to look at this baby's reaction before mom had kale.
Wow, wow.
So, here's the thing: what about if mom had had ice cream?
I don't know.
Why would they go?
Why would they go with trains?
So, the SETI's co-author says the images could just show muscle movements when a baby's reacting to maybe a flavor that's bitter.
So, you shouldn't interpret it whether you know it's happy or distaste.
No, I think that's how I do it.
Because once they get out of the womb, it's that same look.
The fascinating thing about that, Linda, did you pick this up?
Is they're referring to a child in the womb as a baby, they're talking about feelings that a baby would have.
And yet, I bet if you surveyed most of these people at the Today Show, they probably support no restrictions on abortion.
I may be mistaken, that's just a guess.
Because for leftists and liberals, they don't want any restrictions.
Woman has a right to choose, government can't tell her what she can and cannot do with her body.
Okay, and then you have states that will allow abortion even up to the hours before giving birth.
I mean, it's insanity, that's infanticide.
But they're now talking about a baby that can feel, sense, and even taste food.
That kind of blew me away.
Yeah, I got to say, I think they happened was they forgot to check their human souls at the door today, and they just acted like regular people and thought like regular people, and they weren't trying to cowtow to the woke left.
And so, they forgot to say things like, it's not a baby until it's born, or it's just a fetus, or it doesn't have pain, it doesn't have a heartbeat, like Stacey Abrams claims to say.
And I think, you know, when they're just talking like regular people and they actually look at the sonograms and they start to just have a conversation, and they're not thinking, like, oh, I better not say that because, you know, that's not politically correct who identifies.
It was like they were laughing and they were watching this, they were kind of fascinated by it.
You mentioned Stacey Abrams.
She actually said this week that there's no such thing as a heartbeat at six weeks.
She's not exactly following the science.
Listen, let's be clear: it's actually it's medically false and biologically alive.
There is no such thing as a heartbeat in six weeks, it is a navy sailing designed to convince people that men have the right to take a control of the woman's body anyways over the womb.
The only problem is, and this is a problem Democrats have because general, I guess, conventional wisdom was that the overturning a row would result in many, many women being mobilized, going to the polls just on the issue of abortion.
Um, there's not a single person I know, and I know a lot of people, that says that they're pro-choice that supports late-term abortion because they know that the child is viable on their own outside of the womb.
You know that, you know, fetal heartbeat is picked up extremely early once fertilization takes place.
Can I make a point as well?
And I said this the other day, and I think it bears constant repeating.
You know, Steve C. Abrams has never had children, she's never had a sonogram, to my knowledge.
She's never given birth to a child.
And so, to say that you don't think that it has a heartbeat or you're saying it's biologically incorrect, you know, if you're if you've born a child and a child has lived in your stomach, I can assure you at six weeks, baby's heartbeat loud and clear.
Baby in a few months, giving a crowd.
Psychology has advanced so much, even from the time that I had my kids and my youngest to 20.
100%.
I mean, it's advanced to the point where, like, you had 3D imaging.
You could.
At 40, Sean.
At the end of Liam, I had a 4D image of his face.
It was insane.
You knew exactly what he'd look like before.
Dude, I did.
And I was like, oh, my goodness gracious, that baby looks just like my ex-husband.
Oh, my word.
It was insane.
But all that to say, again, just one more point.
If we look at Merkel, if we look at Macron, if we look at all of these different people who are making rules and regulations for our children, they are not parents.
Do not tell me how to walk in my shoes until you have walked a mile in them yourself.
Do me a favor.
Connie in the free state of Florida, Connie.
Hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
I'm great.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
I was calling to comment on the lawsuit being filed in New York by Letitia James.
I think it's absolutely absurd.
I can't even begin to understand it because banks are not stupid.
They go out and do their own appraisals.
They also require audited financial statements in order to make a loan.
And I can only imagine what they require to make a loan in the amount that Trump was getting from them.
And not only that, but the FDIC comes in, they monitor those loans.
And if they find any improprieties or anything like that, the bank is required to put the amount of money that they lent into reserves and can't touch that money.
So for her to accuse these, I mean, I just think it's absurd because it is virtually impossible because you're right, dealing with the amount of money.
Most of us can't relate to what a billionaire would have economically.
And I can only tell you that, you know, I used to use HR Block as I've thankfully been blessed.
I've gotten a little successful in my life.
And I'll tell you that the amount of work, effort, the number of people that have to work on my taxes, and then my lawyer insists on an outside accounting firm on top of my regular accounting firm, then a law firm to follow up the third time, it gets very, very complicated.
Nobody can do their own taxes.
Every year they have a group of accountants, some of the top accounting firms in the country, get the same information, and they're all tasked with giving the tax amount owed, and they almost never come up with the same number.
It's crazy.
Not only that, Sean, but these banks are not going to do anything.
Can you imagine the FDIC coming into a big bank and saying, oh, you have to put $17 million in reserves because you didn't follow a proper protocol with rating this loan.
And in order to rate the loan, they have to have that information.
First of all, besides all these banks apparently being paid back and there's no damages and nobody got hurt, it is the fiduciary responsibility of any bank, any financial institution.
Look, you're not dealing with your local community bank if you're raising the type of money Donald Trump needed to raise to buy a big building or build a big building in New York City.
You're just not.
You're dealing with billions.
You're not dealing with millions or hundreds of millions.
So a massive amount of money.
The amount of vetting that any lending institution would do is massive.
And at that point, because they have a responsibility to their own shareholders, their own fiduciary responsibility, they could end up going to jail if they ever lent money and didn't do their due diligence.
That's how serious it is.
It's never going to happen.
It never did happen.
And the idea that Trump gave these statements that were wrong.
I think the funniest thing, one of the funniest things that Trump said to me last night was that, oh, no, we put in a disclaimer.
These are our estimates.
You can give us yours.
And it sounds to me knowing Trump like he's negotiating like he always is.
I would say to Trump, we need a 20-minute interview.
He goes, I'll give you 10.
Or let's say if I wanted 20, I'd say, we need 30 minutes of your time.
That's it.
And then you can leave.
How about I give you 10?
And then we settle on 20.
I just, I always knew with him, whatever it is, it's a negotiation.
He does it just as a matter of course.
It's his nature.
It's in his blood.
So there's no way that any of these companies, now, if they did lend him money on favorable terms, but they didn't do their own evaluations, if they looked at the collateral and just took the borrower's information as gospel truth,
there's no way they can survive in that industry because they've got to, you only lend money when the odds are really high that you're going to get paid back.
And if you don't get paid back, you're going to be compensated with A, B, or C. In other words, collateral that somebody would put up for a loan.
So it's insane on the surface.
You raise a great point, which is why this is a civil case.
And I don't think it's going to go very far.
That's my guess.
Thank you, Connie.
We appreciate it.
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Candace is in Colorado.
Candace, how are you?
Glad you called.
I'm fine, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
That's good.
Well, I actually, I'll try to make this quick, but I actually have a lot to say.
So, but I've been listening to all the discussions surrounding green energy, electric vehicles, and zero emissions, which we all know isn't obtainable.
And I think besides the obvious reasons of being dependent on China for renewable energy, I think there needs to be more discussion about the details of how that's actually going to be implemented across America and what it looks like for everyday Americans to get to work, to drive, to go to a vacation destination.
I mean, there's so many unanswered questions about the details of how that's going to get implemented with the infrastructure.
And, you know, the devil's in the details, I always say.
For instance, I mean, Biden said that he's going to be, there'll be charging stations put in all across the country.
Well, what does that look like?
I mean, what is entailed with that?
Like, how long does it charge your how long does it take to charge a vehicle?
What are the costs?
There are varying times that you need to charge.
By the way, 90% of the charging is coming from fossil fuel-related energy grids.
Right.
And you're paying $22,000 more on average for an electric vehicle versus a gas-powered vehicle.
Right, right.
And then, and you also have to pillage Mother Earth.
I keep reminding everybody that you got to get the minerals specifically to build these batteries out, which, by the way, are themselves environmentally particularly unfriendly.
So none of what they're saying is true.
There's no such thing as this zero emissions.
We played a cut earlier this week from an expert laying out exactly the damage to the earth that is caused by electric vehicles.
But the point is, we don't have the technology.
We don't have the grid with available by any stretch.
And the resulting chaos and catastrophe, we're now putting America as a country at a financial disadvantage because America is not competing on a level playing field.
We have a president and radical climate cultists that have now put us on a path to take ourselves out of the competitive economic arena and put on burdensome regulations to the point that they would rather import at a much higher price by reducing the world supply of energy, thus raising the costs.
They would rather we be dependent on countries that hate us than produce all the energy we need now domestically much cleaner, much cheaper, and much faster.
And the only way this is going to end is in a disaster.
And we're already seeing the beginnings of the disaster.
The reason you pay more to fill up your tank is because of Joe Biden's policies.
The reason it costs more to send goods to every store that you shop at is because it costs more to put diesel in the truck that transports it.
And all of this would have been preventable.
And it adds to the supply chain crisis on top of it.
And the reality is for the foreseeable future, meaning the next couple of decades, this is going to still remain fossil fuels, the lifeblood of our economy.
We can't unilaterally disarm our economy at this point in time.
The results will be catastrophic.
There's no other way to put it.
Anyway, I hope that answers your question.
Good point.
We'll continue.
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