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Sept. 22, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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NY vs. Trump - September 21st, Hour 2
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All right, that's Leonard Skinner, that's simple man and all things simple man.
When you hear that, that means one thing on this program.
That's all things Bill O'Reilly, all things O'Reilly of Bill O'Reilly.com.
Uh Mr. O'Reilly, sir, uh coming to you from beautiful warm Palm Beach.
I know you're jealous.
How are you?
I'm annoyed.
Not only am I annoyed that you're in Palm Beach, which is absolutely annoying.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm annoyed by that Biden UN speech.
I'm annoyed by it, Hannity.
Tell me why.
All right.
So he gets up there and he says two good things that Putin is going to be destroyed if Putin uses nukes.
Which is true.
All right.
It's true.
And if you hear anybody speculating about whether Putin will or won't please turn it off right away.
Nobody knows what's inside this madman's mind.
But if he ever did, that would be the end of Russia.
China would bail on on them, and they'd have no one, and no one would ever do business with them again in any way, shape, or form.
It's over.
That was good.
The second thing that Biden said it was good that he will not, United States will not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
But all the rest was a bunch of hoo-e.
So he gets up there, and this is the worst.
You want the worst?
I'll give you the worst.
I want the worst.
All right, here's the worst.
I knew you would enjoy the worst, by the way.
Um he's climate crisising now.
It's not climate change anymore, it's a climate crisis.
So the United States apparently, I didn't even know this, and if you did, please tell me.
We're gonna kick another two hundred and sixty-two billion dollars to combat the climate crisis.
I didn't even know that.
But I don't know, I don't think we have that money, but somehow he said that.
So he goes through the climate crisis, Pakistan's underwater, you know, the regular drill.
He does not mention that China, India, and Russia will not cooperate in any kind of climate change protocols.
Bill, I need to add just for our audience's sake.
The Paris Accords, they classify China and India as developing nations.
What that means is we are classified to pay all of the money, and yet they get to pollute far worse than we ever do.
And they don't have to pay for any of this or make any changes to their economy and and to help Mother Earth in any way.
That gets under my skin.
Absolutely correct.
That analysis is a hundred percent correct, and you could take it one step further by saying that the two hundred sixty-two billion dollars that we somehow, the United States are gonna give to somebody, all right, is a total waste of money because what China, India, and Russia will continue to do offsets that.
So you're just basically throwing this money away.
Biden doesn't even mention it at the United Nations, well, China, India, and Russia are members.
The second thing that really annoyed me.
We're given another two hundred billion, Hannity, for the food crisis.
Well where this that means 462 billion dollars were announced by Biden at the UN.
Who are we giving this to?
Is you think this is gonna get to the people in the middle of Nigeria?
Do you really?
Oh, Bill, we have thirty-one trillion dollars in debt we're putting on our kids and grandkids.
Keep going.
So the food crisis is real.
Okay, people don't have enough to eat.
But you can't send money to countries because they will steal it, i.e., Haiti.
And even mentioned Haiti.
Well, how many more billions of dollars are you gonna send to Haiti when none of it, and I mean none of it, gets to the poor people there.
And the final thing that really annoyed me was the greatest hits of the left.
Reproductive rights, LB, LGBTQ, all you know, just the list.
Can you just give us a break?
One day out of the year from this, and then they use the cliche that drove me crazy.
You want to know what that is?
What is it, Mr. O'Reilly?
You're worked up.
Full stop.
Never say full stop or at the end of the day.
By the way, I'm gonna say our word of the day is full stop, just to piss off O'Reilly even further and see if he hangs up on us.
Let me ask you some other questions.
Um do you feel better?
I gave you a platform to unload.
I'm relieved.
I'm I'm gonna focus on the positive.
My book comes out, new book next Tuesday.
Go ahead.
Yeah, by the way, when we no a non cupcake interview on this show.
I'm just warning you ahead of time.
This is gonna be a mean whole process.
By the way, it's called Killing the Legends, if you want to get a first print edition of the now the what sixteenth in your killing series.
Um his latest is one he's working on after this is killing Hannity, which probably will happen at some point.
All right, so I'm watching Letitia James today.
I want you've heard the montage of what how she campaigned.
I've played it in the last hour.
I won't play it now.
But she campaigned to take out one man and one family and one organization, and that's the Trump organization.
And today was the fulfillment, if you will, of that campaign promise.
Now she so here's here's the killer line to me.
And I know something that everybody else in the media doesn't know that there's a caveat in every application the Trump organization makes.
I have been told by sources that says you need to do your own due diligence on the valuations.
Just so you know.
She said Mr. Trump and the Trump organization use these false misleading statements repeatedly and persistently to induce banks to lend money to the Trump organization on favorable terms.
Now, Bill O'Reilly, I have a very simple question.
You're a simple man.
Uh do banks loan large sums of money, in his case, hundreds of millions of dollars.
Do they not have a financial and fiduciary responsibility to make sure the valuations that are presented to them are accurate, and don't they have a fiduciary and financial responsibility to determine whether or not the asset is at the value they claim it to be, and if it's not at that value, then they have to tell them we disagree with your assessment.
Do they not have that responsibility?
I guess they do, but I'm gonna simple this down even further.
All right.
This is you're gonna outsimple me on my own show.
I'm gonna outsimple you, Hannity, and that is a difficult thing to do.
Here we are jackass, but I'm gonna let it go, Mr. Simple Man.
Go ahead.
If Letitia James's allegations are correct, Letitia James is practicing dereliction of duty because she would have to have to under New York State law, charge the Trump organization with felonies in criminal court because that's bank fraud.
Letitia James did not do that.
Okay?
Now she says, Oh, I'm referring.
Hey, that's BS.
It's your job.
If you have all of this evidence, all of these allegations you can prove.
You have to charge him with a criminal offense, not a civil offense.
Okay, that's number one, and everyone should understand that.
That is the headline.
Number two.
Letitia James uses her office to go after Trump.
As you rightly pointed out, this was the game plan.
While thousands of New Yorkers are being brutalized in the streets.
Thousands.
Mostly poor, mostly black.
Does Letitia James do anything about that?
No.
Does she speak out against Snow Bell Law?
No.
Does she want Bragg, the Manhattan DA fired?
No.
They're pals.
So while thousands of poor people are the victims of violent crime, this is what Letitia James is doing as attorney general.
You know, Bill O'Reilly, you're a simple man, but I will tell you, I don't think she has a case because she would have brought the criminal case.
She's the AG of New York.
She has every every bit of authority to do so.
So this is a civil case and it's a big statement, and it fulfills a campaign promise.
By the way, it's kind of scares me.
And and I don't know Letitia James for anything.
Um, but I never have heard of any financial institution that doesn't do their own valuations, that doesn't do their own appraisals.
They come up with a determination of whether or not the valuation or let's say you're putting something up as Collateral justifies them loaning a large amount of money.
Now, in his case, again, it's hundreds of millions of dollars.
Do you know any bank that if they did their own valuation and they think you're a hundred million dollars higher than they are, would they ever lend anybody a penny?
I don't think so, Bill, because they would be putting jail.
Is call in a hypnotist and and put forth to the jury that Donald Trump hypnotized all of the bank CEOs into giving him the money.
I think that's what she's kind of quick break right back.
We'll continue more with Simple Man Bill O'Reilly, and then we have President Trump's attorney responding to Letitia James, uh, President Trump exclusively from Mar-a-Lago tonight.
We're in Palm Beach today.
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All right, more with Simple Man Bill O'Reilly.
Don't forget his uh new killing series book out next week, Killing the Legends, Muhammad Ali, uh, of course, John Lennon, and who's the Elvis Presley.
I mean, it's uh interesting information.
I just got a copy of it.
I've been drumming through it.
It's interesting book.
Uh more with Bill O'Reilly as we continue, Bill.
Did you see the cover of the New York Post today?
In August, five thousand eight hundred and thirty-eight New Yorkers left New York to for the state of Florida, literally switched their driver's licenses in August.
Five thousand eight hundred and thirty-eight, Bill O'Reilly.
Now, that is the single biggest record number of this mass exodus out of New York.
That speaks volumes to me, Bill.
Well, you had Zeldina on your TV show last night, and uh Zeldon asked to have dinner with me privately, um, which I did, and I always say this to my audience up front.
Anybody asked to have dinner with me or a phone call or anything like that.
Um I think it's my patriotic duty to do it.
I don't care what party you're in, I do it.
And I never talk about it.
I don't I mean, I'll tell you that I did it just in case, you know, I don't want people to think I'm sneaking around.
But I never say no, well, you're we're we're in the news business.
You're a talk show host, you're you're an opinion person, but you also do straight news too.
I do straight reporting also at times.
He called it and he has to have dinner, and so we had dinner, and um in the in the dinner, it was clear to me.
It was clear to me, because I don't know Zeldon that well.
I mean, I'm not a party guy, you know that.
I'm not a Republican Democrat guy, I don't do that.
Um, but it was clear to me that he is genuinely outraged by the level of violence that is in New York State now and the level of taxation that is absolutely strangling people, working people, that he he's he takes it personally, and that's what I like to see in a politician.
They have a personal stake in it.
So Biden didn't have a personal stake in it.
Let me ask you this.
Based on your dinner, and maybe you um thank you for watching the show and watching my show last night.
Do you agree with my assessment?
I do believe it's a it's a hard race.
New York for a Republican is very difficult.
He's within the margin of error.
I think he has an outside shot.
Maybe if I had to give odds, I'd say thirty percent, but they're real thirty percent.
I think it might be a little higher than that.
There's internal polling going on right now.
Monday we should have the, and I don't know whether the parties are going to put it out or not.
Um, but there's internal polling.
That means these aren't public polls like Maris and Siena and things like that.
These are paid for by the campaigns.
Um there's certainly a shift in independent sentiment in New York.
So there are a lot of independents here in this state, and they usually vote Democrat.
I don't think that's going to happen this time around.
Long Island in particular, three million people on Long Island.
All right, they're both counties are going to go for Zelda in pretty big.
And so he's whittling it down.
And the final thing is, and this is not only New York State, but across the country.
I don't think you're going to see a big minority African American turnout in this midterm election.
I think black Americans are getting hurt worse than any other group because their incomes are lower, therefore inflation affects them more.
I think they're going to stay home.
They're not going to pull a lever for Herschel Walker in uh Georgia.
But they're not going to go and vote for his progressive opponent either.
If the minority vote is suppressed in November, which doesn't show up on any polling, by the way, then it'll be a route for the GOP.
Um Bill O'Reilly, very good analyst.
I like when you're pissed off.
I think you do not know.
I think you're a better guest when you're why don't you get pissed off every every Wednesday before you come on the show?
Two things.
I couldn't possibly be a better guest, and you know it.
Um, I recently had a birthday, and and when you get older, you get cranky.
I mean, who who wrote you a happy birthday text?
Uh you did.
And I was stunned.
And and it it's not like you your texts usually come from your quote unquote people.
No, you wrote this yourself.
There were some things I have to tell the audience, but that's okay.
The sentiment was there.
Uh anyway, Bill O'Reilly, old things simple man.
Next week, killing the legends.
That's Elvis, uh, John Lennon, and who's the third man?
Mohammed Ali.
Muhammad Ali.
The greatest of all time for sure.
Um, anyway, Bill, we'll uh have you on No Cupcake Interview, so you better brace yourself next week.
I'm coming at your heart.
I'm ready.
Quick break right back.
All right, 25 now to the top of the hour.
Toll free are numbers 800 941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh we went over this uh in the first hour of the program today, and we're gonna go back to it in a minute.
We'll be joined by President Trump's attorney, Alina Hopper's gonna be with us.
And uh we start in the state of New York, where the attorney general with Letitia James, this is a civil suit, it's not a criminal suit.
Uh that she announced uh that they family engaged in acts of fraud and misrepresentation and their annual financial statements, conditions, etc.
etc.
covering the years 2011 through 2021.
At one point, she says Mr. Trump, the Trump organization used these false and misleading statements repeatedly and persistently to induce banks to lend money to the Trump organization on favorable terms.
The problem with this statement is, and I've been told by a source, and we'll see if Alina confirms this in a minute.
Uh, I believe every financial statement of the Trump organization, or most of them, came with a note, a memorandum, a caveat, if you will, uh, that this needs to be corroborated independently by anybody that they're doing business with.
Now, she says they repeatedly used misleading false statements, uh, false the organization used mis false and misleading statements and persistently to induce banks to lend money to the Trump organization on favorable terms.
Now ask yourself.
Can you name one financial institution, maybe one bank, that would ever lend hundreds of millions of dollars Uh based on what the borrower presented as collateral valuation.
Because that doesn't it doesn't happen that way.
They have to go out and they have to do their own appraisals, their own assessment.
There's they have a fiduciary responsibility to their organizations to do so to take a borrower's word for a valuation of anything would be insane.
Because people probably would inflate them.
And if in fact the there is a discrepancy, then that has to get worked out before the two parties before any money is going to be loaned out.
That's another fact.
Anyway, here's the bigger problem, though.
Letia James fulfilled the campaign promise today, one that she made many, many times, that one of her top priorities would be to go after one man, one organization, one corporation, and even laughing about it, said it repeatedly.
Listen, I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.
I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses.
Please sue him for us.
Oh, we're gonna go too.
we're going to be a real payday.
I know my name personally.
That man in the White House.
Yeah!
Who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights?
Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses.
We need to follow his money.
We need to find out where he's laundered money.
We need to find out whether or not he's engaged in conspiracy.
Anyway, Alina Haba is with us, President Trump's uh attorney.
Uh she put out a statement earlier today, and in that statement, she said, today's filing is neither focused on the facts nor the law, rather, it is solely focused on advancing the attorney general's political agenda.
It is abundantly clear that the attorney general's office has exceeded its statutory authority by prying into transactions where absolutely no wrongdoing had taken place, and we're confident that our judicial system uh will not stand for this unchecked abuse of authority, and we look forward to defending our client against each and every one of the attorney general's meritless claims.
Although I would say, just like Washington, D.C. in the District of Columbia, uh I don't think you can get a fair trial if you're a conservative or a Republican and have a the last name Trump in a state as liberal as New York.
Anyway, Alina Hobba is with us right now.
How are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
Uh I agreed with your assessment.
I want you to go, I want you to respond first to the comments that were made by Letisa James during the campaign to go after one man, one family, one organization, and today fulfilling that at least I guess her own satisfaction, that campaign promise.
Right.
It's a violation of uh the former president's civil rights, and we have a key a claim in the Northern District of New York, which uh we have appealed where we're basically walking through the numerous, and I mean numerous pages upon pages, and and you've played a little bit of it, but where this woman who had no knowledge, right?
She was not the attorney general at the time.
She had no knowledge of anything with Trump's dealings or the Trump organization's dealings, but she stated out of the gate that she was going to go after him and that he had committed fraud based on what?
So then she tries to go for three hard years to fit the facts into her claim and find something to bring this action.
I would bet you that this complaint has been drafted for a very long time.
She has been using taxpayer money to basically advance her political career.
If you look at the polls, she's down right now.
So 49 days before an election, she's got to come in heavy.
That's what this is.
It's 48, but who's counting?
Um she makes this big splash today.
Now she's the attorney general, and I noticed that she referred the case to the DOJ, referred the case to the IRS.
Now, as the attorney general of the state of New York, if she had found any type of criminal activity, uh, doesn't she have the power and authority uh to charge herself?
So does she have the authority to charge why?
In other words, this is a civ this is a civil case.
This is not a criminal case.
Correct.
So she's making these broad sweeping allegations of crimes, but yet she chose the civil route.
Why?
Because that's the only thing in her purview.
You know, we have a DA in New York.
He has done his own investigation.
Again, you remember Bragg came in.
It went to nothing happened with that.
We have that system.
She is the attorney general.
She's the highest legal authority in New York in terms of an attorney with civil powers.
And that's all this is.
She's claiming there are money, damages, and it's trying to disgorge the Trump organization for profits they made, rightfully so, on the sale of OPO in Washington.
So this woman is basically standing, and I don't, I'm sure your your listeners have who heard her.
I mean, it was painful to listen to.
But she went through and was saying, we are going to bar him from this.
We are barring him from that.
And a very intelligent journalist said, but you actually don't have the power to do that.
A judge has to do that.
Isn't that correct?
You know, Miss James often speaks out of turn, and and it's a problem.
She's really just a civil, this is a money.
This is important.
You're saying that she's that as part of this civil suit, she will make the determination to borrow, for example, the family from doing businesses.
Business as any she putting burdensome, onerous um restrictions on one family, but without any criminal conduct behind it.
Um I'm just having a hard time.
Was anybody harmed in this?
In other words, were any loans not repaid?
Was there anybody that any debt not repaid?
Absolutely not.
That is the most important thing here, Sean.
Every bank that did their own due diligence.
And these are sophisticated banks.
These are the Deutsche Banks of the world.
They made money.
When you take a loan out with a bank, they do their own due diligence, like you said in your opening.
You have have you ever gone and said, My house is worth two million dollars, so I want a loan for that amount, and the bank just hands you the money.
It doesn't happen.
They have their own systems, and these are sophisticated banks.
The Trump organization wasn't going to a mom and pop down the street to try and evade taxes and real estate fraud.
That wasn't what happened.
They went to sophisticated banks who made money.
They didn't lose money.
There was never a default notice.
They have never ever missed a payment.
In fact, the Trump organization would instruct that if there was a holiday that they get paid the Friday prior.
They are airtight on every loan, and they don't have many loans.
Frankly.
So this is just w one example.
And what I'm worried about as a citizen, forget about my politics here for a second.
As an American citizen, as and I am a conservative and I'm a proud conservative.
What I'm worried about is a two-tier justice system.
And we it's really, really it's it's so obvious now that it exists.
It's never been this obvious.
And I'm worried that our constitution is being shredded.
I'm worried that we've criminalized political differences.
I'm worried that we don't have equal justice or application of our laws.
Let me give you one quick example.
The whole impeachment, the first impeachment over the Ukraine phone call is about uh a hearsay whistleblower, not even a real whistleblower, coming forward, talking about a phone call where the president is telling President Zelensky, listen, you're getting this money.
I hope you're not corrupt like these other guys, which I think is appropriate to look out for the money of the American taxpayer.
Then you got the media mob and the entire democratic establishment ignoring the real quid pro quo.
Listen to Joe Biden bragging about withholding a billion taxpayer dollars and why he withheld it.
We're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, You have no authority.
You're not the president.
The president said I said call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said you're not getting the billion.
I'm gonna be leaving here.
I think it was what, six hours?
I looked at me leaving six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bot fired.
Well, son of a B, they fired the prosecutor, and as you know, Alina, that prosecutor was investigating his son Hunter, who admitted on Good Morning America, he was being paid millions, and he had no experience in oil, gas, energy, or Ukraine.
Now, is that a quid pro quo?
That's where we're at, Sean.
This is the country we're living in right now.
And it's they don't even care about hiding it anymore.
I mean, that is just a blatant disregard for trying to even mask what they're doing.
Okay.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with Alina Haba on the other side as we continue our discussion about well, unequal justice under the law.
Uh President Trump on Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.
We'll get to your calls next hour.
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All right, Paul was Alina Hobba, President Trump's attorney.
This is the infamous press conference.
Now remember, we know, and and James Comey even admits this, 33,000 emails were destroyed.
We know that that's a fact.
Okay.
Right.
And so uh and devices were destroyed.
He even references that in the same speech.
But he acknowledges all of the classified top secret information found on Hillary's server, which is against the law, and by the way, she does not have any ability to declassify a secretary of state at the time.
Listen to what Comey says that day about how no prosecutor would prosecute and how Hillary Clinton had multiple examples of the law being violated, and compare it to what happened with the rate at Mar a Lago when we uh get on the other side of this.
From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.
Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret.
36 of those chains contained secret information at the time, and eight contained confidential information at the time.
Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
They never got the 33,000 other emails.
They were deleted with bleach pit and devices destroyed with hammers.
Why wasn't her home raided?
Because she's a Democrat.
Because she's a Democrat.
That's why.
Because she's a Democrat.
Trump is not.
And because, call me, there's just a dual system.
If you're a Republican, you should be afraid.
I have people, Sean, coming up to me and telling me that they're changing how they're registered to vote.
Because they're petrified of being a registered Republican.
That is not okay.
And this is exactly why.
We have Hillary Clinton, who, with assistance from attorneys, by the way, got rid of evidence, but nothing happened.
You've got Hunter Biden with a crack pipe and hookers.
Nothing happened.
Oh, by the way, and he implicates his father numerous times as being involved in those business dealings while being vice president.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And nothing.
This is a sitting president.
Where's the investigation?
Donald Trump was impeached twice.
It's un for things that were fake, by the way.
Completely fabricated.
We're going to cover all of this tonight on Hannity, but um I got to run him out of time.
All right, Alina Haba, uh President Trump's attorney.
Uh thank you so much for being with us.
Donald Trump will be with us, I'll be at Mar-a-Lago tonight, and we'll be interviewing the former president.
We'll talk about all of this and much more.
Nine Eastern, set your DVR.
You don't want to miss this uh interview on the Fox News Channel.
Alina, thank you as always.
Thank you, Sean.
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