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So we did get a Supreme Court decision in today.
We're expecting, I think, 17 more.
They should be coming pretty in the next couple of weeks for sure.
We'll get to the case that came in today.
This is the Carson v.
Macon case.
It has to do with the Montana Supreme Court striking down a state program, giving tax credits to those that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools.
The ACLJ was involved in it.
We'll talk to Jordan Succulo about it and Horace Cooper in just a minute.
We now have the final opinions of the court about to come out.
You know, we have the five biggest, obviously.
One is Kennedy versus a Bremington School District, high school player, lost his job after insisting on reciting post-game prayers on the 50-yard line, despite his employer, the school district, instructing him to stop.
He's claiming that violated his First Amendment right to freedom of speech and the free exercise of religion.
That's going to be interesting.
Biden versus Texas.
Now, that centers on the administration's migrant protection protocols, commonly known as Remain in Mexico policy.
That's going to be a very key decision, although we know that Biden doesn't obey the law anyway.
He's aiding and abetting in lawbreaking.
One very big case I'm paying very close attention to is New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v.
Bruin, and possibly maybe the biggest Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court in more than a decade.
And the justices will decide whether New York's process for obtaining a license to carry a concealed handgun is overly restrictive.
Then we have West Virginia versus the EPA.
And, you know, it's a case that actually consolidated to be decided together, four cases, actually.
And it is, you know, it's at issue as whether the EPA has the power to issue sweeping rules that could overhaul industry practices and the country's electricity grids.
By the way, as we are now on the verge of a brownout blackout, another one that we're paying attention to is the Dobbs v.
Jackson Women's Health Organization case.
And the anticipation for the ruling in that case has led to protests outside the Supreme Court.
This is where Chuck Schumer, remember, you know, Chuck Schumer, if any other American made this threat to specific justices on the steps of the Supreme Court, I would imagine if Sean Hannity did it, Sean Hannity would be in deep legal trouble today.
Listen.
I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.
You won't know what hit you.
You have released the whirlwind.
You will pay the price.
Wow.
Now, thank God we uncovered an assassination plot against Justice Kavanaugh.
But in light of that, Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray seem unwilling to pretty much do anything to stop the protesting.
It's against the law.
I've talked at length about it.
UA 18 Code Section 1507.
You can't intimidate or harass judges in front of their homes like this, especially when they're in the process of making a decision.
And as now the justices will be issuing their final opinions in this term, it's sad, but now we have security measures because violence cannot be ruled out.
They're sending around flyers all over Washington, D.C., calling to action a night of rage.
And the night of the Supreme Court overturns Roe v.
Wade hits the streets.
Basically, they're saying it's time to riot.
Continues, our oppressors, if abortions aren't safe, you are not either.
Remember that Jane's revenge written in one particular case.
So what's going to happen here, I don't know.
I really don't.
Anyway, Horace Cooper, legal commentator, co-chair of the Black Leadership Network Project 21, author of the bestseller, How Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
Jordan Seculo, executive director for the ACLJ, the American Center for Law and Justice, which, by the way, in the case of Carson v.
Macon, they participated in the filing in this case.
And I guess you're pretty happy today.
But anyway, the Montana Supreme Court had struck down a state program giving tax credits to those that donated to organizations providing scholarships to private schools because the program conflicted with the state's constitutional provision prohibiting state aid to sectarian private schools.
How do you feel about the decision, Jordan Seculo?
It's really exciting, Sean, for school choice.
That's what this ultimately is about, because it gives states a kind of pathway to set up these programs and to understand they're not going to create a constitutional crisis by letting parents choose which schools they want to send their children if they set up a school choice program.
And that includes religious schools as well.
And what the court here has done for the second time in two years, first out of Montana, now out of Maine, has said that if you set up this program and you try to exclude religious schools, that is anti-religion.
That is anti-the First Amendment.
That's a violation of the free exercise of religion.
And, Sean, that is very important because for people who do watch the court carefully in religious liberty cases and school choice cases, they know that the free exercise of religion has been kind of beat up and ignored by the Supreme Court for a few decades since the 1960s and 70s.
The fact that it's back with some teeth and it means something is also very important.
So, two big wins there, one for school choice, one for religious liberty.
Let's get your take, Horace Cooper.
Well, I absolutely agree with that.
I think it has been shameful that we have these state policies that say to people, you're a citizen, you contribute your tax dollars, but if you hold certain views that animate from faith, you aren't allowed to participate.
You aren't allowed to benefit.
That's, per se, discrimination.
Now, if you don't want to give tax dollars to any schools or to any private schools, that is different.
But what they've done here is they attempted to penalize people solely on the basis of their faith.
And I am so thrilled that the Supreme Court came squarely down on the position that that is an animus.
That is unconstitutional.
It's not allowed.
Let me ask you both about, first of all, we were able to thwart and stop a plot to assassinate a Supreme Court justice.
We see the tacit approval of the Biden White House in terms of doxing of Supreme Court justices.
And literally now they've gone as far as to give out Amy Coney Barrett's the name of her children's school, the name of the church that she attends, how often she attends church.
That seems beyond the pale to me.
It's also my view, my interpretation of 18 U.S.C. 1507.
This is intimidation and harassment of a justice.
There have been 49 incidents of violence, according to the Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America group, vandalism, harassment by pro-abortion activists since May 2nd, and the leak of the draft Supreme Court opinion that would potentially overturn Roe.
There's been firebombings that have taken place, I think some 20 of them around the country of Molotov cocktails.
And yet I don't see Merrick Garland or Director Ray all upset about what's happening to our Supreme Court justices.
Jordan, what do you think?
Well, Sean, they don't have to.
As you said, you cited the U.S. Code.
If you're outside a judge's house protesting because of a specific case, it can't be any clearer.
That's not protected speech in the United States.
You're trying to influence an official.
So it's not a free speech issue at all.
They've got the legal authority to shut it down.
But as you said, they're ignoring that.
And they're trying to confuse, I think, the public with thinking, oh, well, people have freedom of speech.
They can protest.
Maybe they don't like this.
That's not the case here.
There's a specific law in the books that's absolutely constitutional.
It says you can't do this to influence a decision.
And we know these protests are specific to the Dobbs case on Roe versus Wade and abortion.
The second, when you talk about the violence, you know what the sick thing is about these attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers or crisis pregnancy centers?
The group that is claiming responsibility for these attacks, Jane's Revenge, the same group saying they're going to riot in Washington, D.C., Sean, has said that this is just the beginning, that the attacks will only increase.
Well, if you've already firebombed an office at night, knowing that people probably aren't there, what's the next level of attack?
The next level of attack is people possibly getting injured.
So they're threatening actual violence against people, not just property.
That's one action.
The second is just a few days ago, but just released today, Democrat members of the House and Senate sent a letter to the Google CEO saying that the pro-life pregnancy centers are engaged in misinformation and they don't want them in the Google searches and they want to be flagged in Google searches.
So we're seeing, that's what they're focused on when it comes to pro-life pregnancy centers is how to shut them down.
And of course, they're ignoring the violence against threatened against the justices and the violence threatened against pro-life offices building property.
I would never for the life of me give out the address of any public figure.
Now, I'd give out an office number.
I've done that many times.
So you can call and express your opinion.
And by the way, I usually ask my audience, if you're going to make that phone call, to be polite and respectful.
Quick break more with Horace Cooper, co-chair of Black Leadership Network Project 21 and Jordan Seculo, Executive Director of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law and Justice.
You know, Horace Cooper, legal commentator, co-chair, Black Leadership Network, Project 21, and Jordan Sekulow, executive director of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law and Justice.
It's so obviously dangerous what they're doing here.
Now they're impacting the families of every one of these justices, putting in place what is an extremely dangerous situation for an entire neighborhood when you give out the address of somebody's kids' school and where they go to church and how often they go to church.
Horace, is it a stretch to interpret that to mean, hey, if you want to confront this person or maybe worse, this person goes to church at this time every day and this person goes to this specific church?
This is pretty obvious what's going on.
We got to watch in the last couple of years of the Trump administration how people were confronting public office holders when they went to dinner at their spouses' places of work.
The RNC convention was held in a truncated fashion on the White House grounds, and there were people who were attacked afterwards.
Here's the contrast that I want to draw.
I'm not as upset that Slow Joe Biden hasn't made any comments about this because I don't know how much Slow Joe Biden actually knows.
But Merrick Garland knows and he understands.
When these people have put the information online, put out these printed releases making what are clearly threats and comments designed to incite bad behavior.
I would like to hear him denounce this behavior, threaten that they're going to actually hold people accountable for their bad behavior, and even ask Congress, if necessary, to enhance the penalties for this kind of behavior.
In Michigan, there was an actual trial for the attempted kidnapping of the governor.
Two of the parties were acquitted because it turned out that the FBI and the DOJ had actually encouraged and created the circumstances that they're now doing.
There was no sign publicly for the rest of us to see that such a plot was occurring.
There's a sign now.
It's clear.
And at least one person has been caught in the process admitting the dangerous act that they were about to commit.
Where is the Attorney General?
Where's the Department of Justice?
And why haven't they acted in a way to make sure that the fundamental right that all of us expect, the court's going to decide on the law and not based on intimidation and influence.
You know, it's amazing.
We're in the middle of these January 6th hearings that even George Stephanopoulos himself has acknowledged that nobody's really paying attention to.
Most Americans are not paying close attention, his exact words.
And in the middle of that, now in the summer of 2020, Jordan, and we only have about a minute left, 574 riots, dozens of dead Americans, thousands of injured cops, billions in property damage.
The media and the Democratic Party, they were either silent or complicit, like Kamala Harris.
They're not going to stop.
They shouldn't stop.
We're not going to stop.
Et cetera, et cetera.
You know, tweeting out, help the bail fund in Minneapolis after a precinct, a police precinct is burned to the ground.
It's the same thing here.
You know, if I did what, if I said what Chuck Schumer said against a liberal Supreme Court justice, what would happen to me?
And then after that, there was assassination attempt.
So you, I mean, it would be a whole legal mess.
You have to defend, okay.
Not even you and your father could save me from that one.
You know, we might be able to, but it would not be, Sean, we don't talk like that.
I mean, that's the difference.
That's the difference.
I would never do it.
You're right.
We've talked to our audiences.
We say, hey, if you're going to call that senator's office, you're going to call this, be polite.
You know, leave them, even if you strongly disagree with them, be polite to their staff person that answers the phone or be polite on the voicemail.
And we're clear about that.
And we're clear about that long before any of this happened.
But people are still recovering from those, that summer of 2020.
The cities are still recovering from that.
The drugs that are flooding into our border, the crime that we're seeing, the homelessness crisis that we're seeing.
So yeah, a daytime TV hearings with Adam Schiff again is not compelling.
It's not getting anybody anywhere, and it's not helping the country come together.
Nobody's watching it either on top of everything else.
Jordan Secular, ACLJ, American Center for Law and Justice, thank you.
Horace Cooper, thank you for being with us.
Co-chair, Black Leadership Network Project 21.
We appreciate you both being on board.
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You know, I love Joe Biden.
Not only falls on his face on his bicycle, and he wasn't locked in.
I mean, they have those pedals on bicycles where your foot is kind of locked into the pedal and you have to unclick it.
He didn't have that type of pedal.
And, you know, the media mob, of course, makes every excuse for him, but it's just all part of what I've been telling you, the narrative that now even fake news CNN has picked up on.
And then he's asked a question, a simple question by a reporter and says about inflation.
I don't want to talk to you about it.
I'm on my vacation.
You're always on vacation.
Listen.
Mr. President, we are hunting up your mind.
I will not talk to you on my vacation.
Yes, not really talking to him.
And like his daughter had to step in and say, ha ha, I'm only kidding.
I'm only kidding.
Which again is like his wife walking him down the stairs of Air Force One so he doesn't fall down on his face.
But anyway, and then he says something.
And this may seem like, let me be very clear.
I'm not a big boat guy.
I just, I'm not a big fan of boats.
I hate being out on boats.
I'll go out on boats because my friends want to go out on boats.
Occasionally I go fishing, maybe once a year.
But I'd rent a boat.
You know, one of my kids has a small like 18, 19-foot boat, just a little tiny fishing boat.
That's it.
Do I want to go out on it?
Never.
Absolutely.
Not.
I'm not interested.
One of my best friends is a great fisherman.
He catches these 40-pound striped bass almost every day for crying out loud before he even goes to work.
He gets up that early in the morning because he loves fishing so much.
So I'm not that impressed.
I would never want a yacht.
I have no idea why people love those things, but they do.
And everybody has different tastes.
That's fine.
And says, Biden goes out and says, well, if you're going out and you're buying a yacht, it doesn't help the economy a whole lot.
And I'm like, yes, it does.
You want to know why?
Because it takes a lot of people to build those multi-million dollar yachts that the rich and famous hang out in all the time.
And you know what that means for them?
That's food on their table.
That's their mortgage or rent being paid.
That is their vacations being paid for.
Maybe their kids' school's being paid for.
And so it does a hell of a lot for the economy, except if you buy into this mindset that you're supposed to hate people with money.
When I washed dishes, when I was a bus boy, when I was a waiter, when I was a bartender, when I was a house painter, when I painted ships in a shipyard, when I did general contracting and roofing and framing and remodeling and reconstruction, I never got hired one time by a poor person.
I got hired by people that could afford to pay me because that's all hard, backbreaking work.
And I was grateful to make the money so I could pay my rent.
Anyway, this how dumb Joe is on the economy.
We also can move in a direction that we can provide for tax increasing tax taxes on those in the corporate area as well as individuals as it relates to Trump's tax decision questionnaire.
You know, going out by the yacht doesn't help with Congo.
Yeah, it does.
I mean, if you go to any place on the water, and I always like being near the water, and you see a shipyard or you see a docking area, whether it's big massive yachts or maybe just average-sized boats that people have that they use on the weekend to go fishing or, I don't know, water skiing, whatever they like to do on the stupid thing.
It's created by hardworking Americans.
That is their livelihood, Joe.
How dumb can this guy be?
Anyway, let's get to our busy phones.
Scott, West Virginia.
What's up, Scott?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Good.
How are you, Sean?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
Well, I was wondering when Republicans in Congress are going to ask Democrats, especially the ones in the January 6th Commission, when there's going to be a January 8th Commission against Chuck Schumer for inciting the attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh and the legal protests at their homes.
They need to ask them in public.
Well, one thing that's going to happen, assuming Republicans take control of the House, oh, there's going to be investigations.
And as I understand it, everybody on that January 6th committee has been given a legal preservation notice, meaning you have to maintain and preserve your emails, your text messages, et cetera.
And the questions that they didn't ask will be brought before the American people.
Well, for example, you would bring in every witness that was in the room that said that Donald Trump authorized up to 20,000 guard troops.
At that point, the jurisdiction goes to Muriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C., and Nancy Pelosi, who is by her very job definition in charge of protecting the Capitol.
Then you can bring in the two sergeant-at-arms in the House and the Senate, and then you can bring in the Capitol police chief that requested the National Guard.
And you can ask the mayor of D.C. why in writing she rejected the guard troops that Donald Trump had offered.
And it turns into an entirely different narrative if their narrative is that Donald Trump purposely wanted to incite a riot that day.
And then, of course, they might remind people that he said many of you will peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
So at the end of the day, this is a one-sided circus sideshow that nobody's paying attention to and that had a predetermined outcome from day one.
Because if they really cared about protecting the Capitol, and I do care about that, I'll tell you right now what they ought to do.
They ought to build a perimeter around the Capitol as they have built one around the White House.
And they ought to have fencing around the Capitol like they do have at the White House.
But they don't want to do that.
If we want to protect our kids in school, I think you've got to have undercover armed security, retired military police, and one way in, one way out, a plan that, God forbid, if there's a fire, and every kid walks through a metal detector, and every child in every school in the country has the same protection as every elected official.
These are not hard problems to solve, I don't think, Scott.
It's common sense to me.
Same here.
I agree.
All right, my friend.
God bless you in West Virginia.
Let's say hi to Al is in Virginia, the Commonwealth.
By the way, your governor, Glenn Youngkin, will be on Hannity tonight.
How are you?
I'm doing good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good, my friend.
Glad you called.
Yeah, I'm wondering with the protocols that the president and the vice president are supposed to do, one, protecting the people of the United States and also our economy.
I can't see how he's still in office where they're not throwing the both of them out because they're not doing it by accident.
This is all a procedure that they put together to totally destroy the country.
And not.
No, Judge, you're right about one thing.
Let me put emphasis on this.
What you're saying is profound.
This is exactly what Joe Biden and the new Green Deal Democrats promised to do.
This is exactly what was in the Biden-Bernie manifesto.
You're right.
Yeah, and I just don't understand where the true Democrats are, because if there was any really true Democrats out there, and I'm saying Democrats of old, they would be up in arms going, wait a second, no, we got to do something here, and we have to change what's happening.
And if it takes getting rid of Joe and Kalima, then that's what happens.
You know, we can't keep on letting this go on because listen, and let me tell you what this comes down to at the end of the day, Al.
This is why I've been pushing for election integrity measures in every state.
It comes down to November.
It comes down to November and what the American people do.
Now, Democrats are betting that January 6th, abortion, guns, and calling Republicans racist and sexist and homophobic and transphobic and xenophobic is going to get them over the hurdle and it won't be a wave election like everybody's predicting.
I don't think so.
With gas prices this high, and there's nobody that I know that has successfully been able to label or identify one successful program of Joe Biden.
And I think people, every time they fill up their gas tank and they know that, you know, Joe Biden said it again, what, yesterday said it.
We have a chance to make a fundamental turn towards renewable energy.
Well, what is the renewable energy?
What energy is he talking about?
And they all seem to say we've done everything we can do with gas prices.
They have not because they've not returned to the policies, the successful policies of energy independence.
So I hope the answer is to vote, Al, give you the last word.
Oh, no, no.
Trust me, I'm voting.
I vote every year, and I am a Republican, but I just don't understand the Democrats, even the ones that seem to be old-fashioned and maybe have some kind of dignity.
Listen, Hillary is telling them, you know, stop pushing trans issues.
Stop talking about all these controversial issues and being so far out of step with where the American people are.
What she's really telegraphing them, and thank you for the call, what she's really saying to them is that they need to be like the Clintons were, and that is, fake it.
Democrats up until now have always had socialist leadings.
They only had a few people that were willing to express it publicly, Bernie Sanders, for example, and then AOC.
Now, I don't know, the veneer is gone.
They're not hiding anymore.
They're advocating exactly for what they want.
And now the country has a choice.
It's never been more clear in my lifetime.
Lewis in North Carolina.
Hey, Lewis, how are you?
John, how are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
I got one question.
I just want to know what you think about, like, if the Republicans were to win the House and the Senate to come to midterms, do you actually think they would actually go after the Clintons for what they did to Trump?
And also, I mean, we got blatantly, you know, the corrupt Bidens.
Why wouldn't they go after them too?
You know, or are they just going to sweep it under the rug?
Well, according to certain people that I talk to, that all of this is on the table.
I mean, I think the corruption, abuse, and power scandal that took place under President Trump's watch, I mean, the lie, the conspiracy theory, the hoax that dragged this country through hell for three years.
I think we should identify all those people.
I think we need an investigation into the DOJ and it being politicized.
I mean, why is the DOJ expanding resources to go after parents that are speaking up at school board meetings?
How dumb is that?
You know, how do we have 40-plus incidences of pro-life centers being attacked?
You know, what about enforcing the law as it relates to not intimidating judges and Supreme Court justices and the tacit approval of the administration or the direct threats of somebody like Chuck Schumer?
You know, for the party that says they're against insurrection, sounds like they're giving an awful lot of aid and comfort to people like they did in the summer of 2020 through either their silence or their explicit support or just outright lying that they're mostly peaceful.
No, 574 riots that injured thousands of cops and killed dozens of Americans is not mostly peaceful.
Anyway, I hope that answers.
What did you say, sir?
I said I absolutely agree with you 100%.
Appreciate you being on board.
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Big time, AJ, Houston, Texas.
What's going on, baby?
Big time, Sean Hannity.
Big time.
This restaurant, Chiles Rhino.
What is he doing?
I mean, which one?
There's a lot of rhinos.
Which one are you talking about today?
This is a joke we're watching, Sean.
We got, I'm rambling.
We got borders wide open.
We got murders like nobody business.
Everybody's losing out on their money.
Bank accounts going down.
I can go on and on and on and on.
And they're doing this.
But AJ, the problem is nobody is watching.
Nobody's paying attention to it.
The only reason we got to watch, Sean, because we got to educate the people that they're bamboozling.
I'll be honest, there's only so much of it I can take, and I'm bored to tears.
They're really, there's nothing new that they're really bringing up here.
What's really sad to me, and especially if you look at it through the prism, of all the times that conservatives have been told to suck it up, support McCain, support Mitt Romney, blah, blah, blah.
You know, it's the lesser of two evils.
You can't have these socialists in office.
Okay, fine.
And then all of a sudden, they get a conservative that governs conservatively that's tough.
Granted, Donald Trump fought hard.
He didn't let his foot off the gas.
Maybe you don't like his style, but his policies worked.
They would rather Americans be paying $5, $6 a gallon for gasoline and a 41, two-year high of inflation and not a single success that Joe Biden can cite, open borders, disaster on the world stage, because that's what they're helping to ensure.
But big time, I got to let you go, man.
You're the best.
We always love having you.
Thank you so much for being with us.
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Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
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