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June 7, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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Energy Independence Was Real - June 6th, Hour 2
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So Democrats are counting on the fact that they can run on an anti-gun agenda and repealing second amendment rights of Americans.
They have not yet come to the conclusion that if Roe has anticipated is in fact overturned, uh that abortion will be legal.
And by the time election day comes around, people will have concluded the obvious, which is they only sent this back to the states, that it is not enumerated in the Constitution, therefore that's not gonna work.
So, you know, what do they have left at this point to lash out blame me companies and corporations, greedy corporations and and you know, how do they explain away a 42-year high end of inflation?
How do you explain away record high gas prices on top of record high gas prices on top of record high gas prices?
Well, if you peep Buddha judge, you come up with this genius answer.
But we also know that the price of gasoline is is not set by a dial in the Oval Office.
And when an oil company is deciding hour by hour how much to charge you for a gallon of gas, they're not calling the administration to ask what they should do.
Uh they're doing it based on their goal of maximizing their profits.
It's been very striking right now to see these oil companies uh who have become almost ridiculously profitable, and you hear these oil executives on the record talking about how they're not going to increase production.
Uh, why would they?
They're doing great right now.
It's why the president has called for a use it or lose it policy, where if you're sitting on these thousands of permits like these oil executives have been, and you're not doing anything with them, then you're gonna be held accountable for that.
Now, so far, Congressional Republicans have blocked action to do something like that, but we think that's another step that would make a difference.
Okay, so what are we talking about price controls here?
The the big part of the equation that he's missing are all of the restrictions that they put on oil leasing and production of of oil and gas and coal since they've come into power.
Because all of that has impacted the ability of oil and gas companies to actually produce more oil and gas.
And their policies have directly resulted in a significant decrease in the world supply of the lifeblood of the world's economy.
And they cause that.
They should own that in many ways.
You know, Buddha judge even said in the past, we'll get an electric car.
He also is out there saying in the past uh that you know, you gotta you better get used to these high gas prices because this is the way it's gonna be until we become energy independent with their definition of clean energy.
That means no time in the future.
So get used to it.
Uh then you've got, for example, Gene Sperling, senior Biden advisor saying, uh I'm I'm not gonna feel the high the pain of high gas prices.
No, it's gonna be the American people.
No kidding.
Listen.
No, I'm not gonna be able to do that.
$72 for gas this morning.
Do you feel it?
Do you pay it?
Look, I you know, we see it, we see, you know, gallon gas gallon of milk go to to five dollars.
Everybody understands that that is a hit.
I think I'm not gonna try to say that I, you know, feel That pain personally, as much as so many families who could make 50 or 60,000.
But yet do I do we feel that pain?
Do we understand that frustration?
All right.
Oh, sure.
Then, of course, our energy secretary Granholm was asked what they're going to do about it.
And she goes off into this giggling fit, you know, reminiscent a little bit of Kamala Harris giggling at the most inappropriate times and then blaming OPEC and not focusing on the fact that America's reduced artificially the supply of the world's market.
Listen.
What is the gran home plan to increase oil production in America?
Oh my God.
That is hilarious.
Would that I had the magic wand on this?
As you know, of course, uh oil is a global market.
It is controlled by a cartel.
That cartel is called OPEC, and they made a decision yesterday that they were not going to increase beyond what they were already planning.
All right, joining us now to discuss debate and look at possible real solutions, and considering this is impacting the poor, the middle class, disproportionately, people on fixed incomes disproportionately, in other words, the vast majority of the American people disproportionately, and the fact that all of this is preventable and all this is easily fixable, it makes it even more frustrating.
Uh, Daniel Turner is the founder, executive director of Power the Future.
It's a national nonprofit organization that advocates for American energy jobs, which by the way are high paying career jobs that we used to have when we had the policies of Donald Trump.
Dan Weaver also with us, president of the Pennsylvania Oil and Gas Association.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Uh Daniel, I'll start with you.
Is there anything that I'm saying about the Biden administration policies artificially reducing the world supply, resulting in the dramatic increase in price?
No, absolutely not.
I mean, this is a direct cause and effect.
Biden during his campaign said he wanted to phase out oil and gas.
He said he wanted to uh stop uh drilling and permitting, he said no new permits.
So this is exactly what was going to result.
Well, we saw this coming.
Um the problem is Biden doesn't want to deal with the political fallout.
And quite frankly, for for Pete Budigudge, uh first of all, Pete Buddhist doesn't even understand transportation, and he's the transportation secretary.
So why he thinks he understands oil and gas uh is absurd.
For him to make those dumb comments to blame oil companies for gas prices when they're not even the same industry, right?
That your oil company is not your gas company.
So that is just an insulting comment.
And again, Pete Buttigieg somehow wants us to believe that at record high prices, the oil company doesn't want to produce more because they're greedy.
That just logically, it doesn't even make any sense.
Of course, the industry wants to produce more oil and gas, but they're not going to if they know the Biden administration is going to punish them at every step of the way.
Well, let me let me ask you this point.
So by reducing the number of available leases and auctions on public lands, etc., uh, is it or is it not accurate that when companies begin the process of exploration for oil, even though they might think that there's oil in a particular area or gas, natural gas, they don't know until they start the process.
Is that true?
Absolutely.
And and starting the getting your permits, your land permits, these are the 9,000 permits that Gensaki would always talk about.
That is just the very first step.
Just because you have access to land does not mean you have permission to drill, and your exploratory wells need permission, and you need extraction permission, and then you you need permission to frack on top of that.
And those are all the steps that the Biden administration is holding up at the Department of Interior, even at the EPA with ongoing regulatory and litigation.
So it doesn't make any sense for the oil company to say, yes, we have this lease, but why would we begin to drill on it if they won't give us permission?
And if we even begin, they're going to bring us to court, they're going to stop us, they're going to shut us down.
So they have created a hostile climate to the industry.
The industry is responding by by basically not doing anything, and it makes perfect sense.
Let me play a cut of Joe Biden.
Then we'll bring in Dan Weaver with us.
Uh this is Biden's war on fossil fuels, his own words.
Listen.
We're all dead.
Doing away with any subsidies for fossil fuels, number one.
Number two, holding them a liable for what they have done, particularly in those cases where your underserved neighborhoods and you you know the deal, okay?
And by the way, when they don't or when they're deliberate, we'll put them in jail.
You know, I want you to just take a look, okay?
You don't have to agree.
But I want you to look in my eyes.
I guarantee you, I guarantee you, we're gonna end fossil fuel, and I am not gonna cooperate.
Okay.
Would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking in a Biden administration?
No, it would be we would we would work it out.
We would make sure it's eliminated.
He's saying it, Dan Weaver, in his own words.
So this was his stated policy prior to being elected president.
So why would we be surprised that he's followed through on all these promises?
We're not.
Um, you know, it is you're exactly right.
He stated what he's going to do.
They're executing their plan to the best of their ability, but yet they're blaming us and our industry for their policies that they're putting in place.
Just as Daniel said, when it comes down to the permit, yeah, they're saying, oh, you're not drilling these wells, you're not drilling those wells, but you're blocking us.
You're making it in it, the inability to move the product to market.
Um we do not have the ability to put a pipeline in the ground out there.
So where are we at?
How is that our fault when you are you came up with the plan, you're executing your plan?
I I mean it seems now let's go to specifically the issue of natural gas and Pennsylvania and states like Ohio, but you're you're the president of the Pennsylvania Oil and Gas Association.
My understanding is based on current estimates, we have over 200 years worth of natural gas reserves that we currently know about, at least 200 years.
And correct me if I'm wrong, Dan Weaver, can't the combustion engine be adjusted to allow uh natural gas to power that engine?
Oh, absolutely.
You're exactly right.
Um there's been CNG vehicles out there, L and G, so C and G is competitive.
That technology's been available for decades.
Am I wrong on that?
No, you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
Um, you want to know why I know that?
I know that because I bought a Providence gas company van that had been converted to to natural gas uh for use and then converted back to gasoline.
But anyway, you go right ahead.
No, you're you're exactly right.
The technology is there, it's already proven, it's already safe, it's already available, but we just have to put it into use.
And again, that goes back to permits, and that goes back to we need to get that approved.
So you can't just instantly you know put up a C and G station overnight or an L and G station.
You have to have this distribution network there.
Yes, we can tap into them when they're available, but again, we need that certainty.
And that's what it comes down to in any business, not just ours, is certainty.
So whether it's regulatory certainty through the permitting process, or whether that's certainty that you know you can be able to build the buildings that you need to do or build the infrastructure there, we have to have that certainty.
Thank you.
As we continue, Daniel Turner is with us, founder, executive director of Power of the Future, a national nonprofit that advocates for American energy jobs.
Dan Weaver is the president of the Pennsylvania Oil and Gas Association.
I want to ask you both the same question.
Dan, we'll give you the first crack at it.
And or or or Dan Weaver, we'll give you the first crack at it, because we have two Daniels on the line.
So explain to me the difference.
What is the difference if you import a barrel of oil from the Middle East, OPEC nations, Venezuela, Iran, Russia, or you produce the oil in the United States in terms of its impact on, if you will, Mother Earth.
Is there any difference?
Because to me, the fact that they want to import the energy rather than produce it is insanity to me.
Well, actually, I would say there is a difference.
Like we have environmental regulations here that we have to follow.
And what people tend to forget, well, I won't say the people in general, but certain people forget that it's one atmosphere, right?
So if we have that ability To produce that oil here, and we can do so.
We can do so responsibly under environmental regulations.
Not only that, we have the ability to put Americans to job, and we have the American and we had the ability to control our own future through secure uh energy.
Right now, relying on other people and then keeping to deplete our natur our reserve is is beyond I how do I say it's ludicrous?
Your t your take, let me ask you, Daniel Turner.
Absolutely.
Uh, it's not just the the cost of shipping that oil across the Atlantic or the Pacific, regardless of where it comes from.
You know, those tankers have to burn a lot of diesel.
So if your goal is to be environmentally conscientious, then you want to move that oil as as efficiently as possible, and nothing is more efficient than a pipeline.
But there's also a humanitarian cost.
I mean, do we really think Iran is is having OSHA and compliance meetings and they're wearing hard hats?
Uh, do we really think they're careful with groundwater contamination?
You know, it's the same in other industries as well.
You look at coal and where coal prices are.
Heck, someone like Tom Steyr ran for president saying he was gonna shut down all the coal in America, and yet he's the largest owner of Malaysian and Indonesian and Chinese coal companies where there are 10-year-old girls who work 18-hour days.
And and Tom Steyr is a hero of the environmental left.
And look at coal prices right now, and how much is he and his hedge fund, Farallon Capital, making?
So the whole green movement, um, when you look at it, you really is it is just one enormous grift.
It's a foreign-funded uh uh anti-American energy run by people who have uh competing investments, whether it's Chinese coal, whether it's Chinese wind and solar, whether it's Venezuelan oil.
Uh that is the green movement in America, and we need to call them out for the America-hating uh uh globalists that they are.
Is there any other alternative energy source, clean energy source or cleaner energy source uh on the horizon that would be affordable for every American, Dan Weaver?
Um you're starting to see an emergence within the hydrogen market, uh, but again, that's coming from natural gas.
I mean, there's there's blue hydrogen, which is natural gas driven, and then there's green hydrogen.
All right, so that kind of answers that question.
And by the way, don't these electric cars don't they need uh gas products and don't and these batteries?
Well what what are the materials needed for those?
Oh, it's it's high-end plastics, it's you know, within the batteries, there's all the minerals, but you look at what it takes to get those rare earth minerals.
Yeah, we may have some of those here within the United States, but the processing facilities are where?
They're in China.
So we've got to ship them over to China, have them processed so they can turn around and ship the products back to us.
So and what kind of effort does it take to actually extract those rare earth minerals from the earth?
So if we're looking at overall carbon footprint, wouldn't we have been better off just to run a CNG or an LNG vehicle from the start?
Boy, you guys are making way too much sense for any Democrat listening to this program right now.
Uh it's sad, it's all preventable, it's all fixable, and it's not gonna happen with the Democrats in charge.
That's the that's the sad part of this.
Daniel uh Turner, thank you.
Dan Weaver, thank you.
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Uh did you see that Ron DeSantis is apparently supposed to speak uh in at Chelsea Pierce, which is uh I'm I think it's on the west side of of New York City.
And anyway, so they have Pride Month going on in New York City, and Ron DeSantis, that they keep going back to the so-called don't say gay law, which it never was.
All this was about was kindergartners through what second, third grade, whatever it was, is that we're not gonna indoctrinate kids into you know, gender, transgender, gender inequality issues, and that they were gonna focus on reading, writing, math, science, and computers, and and get our kids educated because we pay more per capita per student than any other industrialized country with the worst results.
Anyway, you have a state senator, two fellow LGBTQ Democrats are calling on Chelsea Pierce to cancel the event at one of its venues set to feature the governor of Florida.
And what the thing that infuriates me about this more than anything else is that's not what the bill is.
The bill never mentions the word gay.
Doesn't even talk about it.
You know, it's parents wanting to instill their values in their children.
I'm not sure why that's such a foreign concept.
Sticking to the basics in school, you know, once we are number one, number one or two in terms of our educational system, teaching kids to read, write, do math, science, and computers, then maybe we can move on to the social issues.
But we're not doing a good job at the fundamental issues.
Governor of New York, it turns out, is now apparently uh building out a two million dollar spacious state-of-the-art executive office in a Buffalo building whose landlord is a big campaign contributor, according to the documents.
Does she not know it's an election year?
I guess you have what?
Lee Zelden, Rob Astorino, Andrew Giuliani.
I think Zeldin is in the lead.
Zeldin in one poll was within four points, even in New York of potentially putting the state of New York in play for the governorship.
When she became governor, she ordered that her office be made bigger by taking down a wall than she had been given access to a balcony, according to sources familiar with the expansion, the extensive renovations on the fifth floor of this mixed-use building in Buffalo's historic cobblestone district began after Hokler replaced Andrew Cuomo.
Why did he why is this the first thought of people?
People ask me about, you know, well, what about your office?
I'm like, I don't care about my office.
I spend as little time in my office as possible.
That's not where I do my, I do my work in studios.
I do my work in quiet.
I just like total silence while I'm doing my preparation.
You got another House Democrat that would want to hit AR-15s with a 1,000% tax.
That's just another backdoor way of banning guns.
Uh, but we'll see how the how far that goes.
I don't think it's going to go very far, uh, in my humble opinion.
And anyway, 800, 941 Sean.
Oh, my favorite story, Linda, you're gonna love this story.
An appellate court, California court rules that the bumblebee is a fish under environmental law.
Did you know that?
I bet you did not.
Um, I did not know that.
You're teaching me a lot today.
I'm teaching you a lot today.
Okay.
Now you remember we went out to the San Juan Keith Valley when you didn't even have an endangered species.
And this is, you know, an area, really heavy farming area in inside of California, more inland, and we go to the San Juan Keith Valley, and farmers don't have any water.
And the reason they don't have any water is because the state put the priority of the delta smelt.
Now, many of you are asking, what's a delta smelt?
If you look up a picture of it on Google or Yahoo, wherever you do your searching, or it doesn't really matter.
It basically is a minnow fish.
There's no shortages of delta smelts.
How is it possible a bumblebee?
Now, Linda, correct me if I'm wrong.
Does the science show that bumblebees swim?
Because I've never heard of a bumblebee swimming.
Matter of fact, I can promise you that as we have this conversation right now, there is a scientist somewhere forming a study just to prove that a bumblebee can swim.
I promise you, that's happening.
So the case is called almond alliance of California versus the Fish and Game Commission, which is the California State Appellate Court third district.
And they said the issue presented here is whether the bumblebee, which is a terrestrial invertebrate, again, falls within the definition of a fish.
Now, when I think of a fish, don't you think of water?
Because I've actually, in the course of my life, yellow jackets, bumblebees, wasps.
You know, if I catch them, I'm gonna usually flush them down the toilet.
I had no idea they'd be able to swim.
Um I don't think that I don't think of them as that.
I admit that I I smush them, then I'll probably get arrested for smushing a bumblebee.
Well, they have a whole song about that.
It's like a nursery rhyme.
It's just ridiculous.
So according to the judges, get this.
The bumblebee is classified as a fish as a liberal interpretation of the word fish, as well as the state's own legislative history, including quote, non-aquatic life.
I mean, so you have a dark earth bumblebee, you know, they show a picture sitting on a flower, etc.
etc.
The judge explains, although the term fish, commonly understood to refer to an aquatic species, the law as it is written, makes the legal definition of fish not so limited according to court documents.
And I'm not making any of this up.
Then the court explained how the endangered species act has given classification authority to the Fish and Game Commission to determine what is and what is not an endangered species.
And under the law, the commission is solely responsible for establishing a list of endangered species and a list of threatened species, and the court found that the commission's authority was not limited to listing only aquatic invertebrates.
Does that make any sense?
No, but it's the same people who allow crackheads to sit outside or ten feet from schools and they think this is totally fine, and you're allowed to rob Walgreens, as long as it's not over a thousand dollars.
So I've kind of given up on California.
I think I've given up too.
It's a hot mess.
John is in New Jersey.
John, how are you?
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon, sir.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
Nice to talk to you.
What's going on?
My dad never missed an episode of Hannity and Combs.
That's how far back we go.
Well, tell you, I guess it sounds like your dad passed away.
Did you lose your dad?
He did a number of years ago, but he was a great man, and I love what he talked.
Um I still miss my dad 20 going on 27 years after 26 and a half years later.
I lost my dad in those six.
Um I uh lifelong resident, grown up in New Jersey, and I am just done.
I bought a house in Sarasota, um moving down there probably in February, March of next year, and I can't wait.
I'm tired of the the politics and the crime in the city.
I work in the Bronx.
It's a nightmare to come to work, it's a nightmare to go home, and I'm just done with it.
I'll tell you, these Democrats have killed anything good.
59% of your fellow New Jerseyans want out.
I mean, there was an article today about uh Pennsylvania, and you know, people in the Commonwealth in Pennsylvania, they want out too.
They want completely out of this thing.
I got a prime T-bone with your name on it and a grill and charcoal grill steak.
I have a lot of friends in Saras.
Sarasota's great.
Look, I'm I like both coasts.
I like the East Coast, which is Sarasota, Port Myers, Naples, I love that area, Southwest Florida, and then I like the eastern part of Florida, Jupiter, you know, straight on down through Miami.
I mean, I I love any place that's near water.
I love to stare at water.
And if I can do that, bring your bike and we'll go riding.
Um I will bring my bike, we'll go bike riding, and then you can make me my ribeye.
Anyway, good you know what?
I'm not far behind you.
I've already been making the moves, putting everything in all the pieces in place to eventually get down there with you.
And hopefully God lets me live long enough to make that happen.
Uh anyway, back to our phones.
Tom in Ohio.
Tom, how are you?
Good.
How are you?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on?
How are you doing, Sean?
Okay, I just want to talk about the like these gun control legislation that's going around.
I think that uh the Republicans in Congress should get together and offer an amendment where if it's if whatever the restrictions on type or caliber or magazine capacity, the same should apply to the Secret Service, to the Capitol Police that protect the senators and congressmen.
You know, if it's good enough for the American people, then they should abide by those same restrictions.
Like even now, DC.
I mean, do you want the company?
Do you want the country to give up its nuclear weapons?
I don't.
Should people be allowed to have nuclear weapons?
Hell no.
I mean, that's obvious.
Um, but that's not the second amendment.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms is is pretty unambiguous to me.
It's very clear.
And Joe Biden agreement, it's not absolute all he wants.
You know, the idea that they can, you know, regulate an inanimate object is insane to me.
But go ahead, finish your thought.
Yeah, I mean, I I agree.
It's just, but I mean, you know, stuff gets passed.
I mean, like, you know, it was the same thing when Obama Care passed and it was supposed to apply to Congress.
They found a loophole.
They always find a loophole.
There's nothing else that should I think it should be put out there just to shame them to you know get the story going.
Because you know, it's a very good thing.
The good news is I don't think this is going anywhere.
And I uh the three big things now they are focused on, the Democrats, because they can't focus on the economy.
They can't focus on inflation.
They can't focus on gas prices or the border or Afghanistan.
They can't cite a single thing that they've done that's been successful.
So they're going to try and focus on abortion, guns, and January 6th.
That's their playbook.
And then of course they'll always add the usual Republicans or racist, sexist, misogynists, homophobic, blah, blah, blah.
That's that's always coming.
And I think that this is going to be it's the economy stupid election.
It's your failure uh your failed agenda election.
That's what I think it's gonna come down to.
I don't think we're gonna have to worry about it in the end.
Because I think Republicans have I think we take the House.
I think it's always rough when you have all of these bellwether states that are that have Senate races, but I think we could sweep the table in a wave election, and I'm hoping for a wave election.
I I agree, it's gonna be a wave.
If there isn't, then something some shenanigans went on if it doesn't happen.
Tom, appreciate it.
All my best.
Uh tell my buddy Billy Cunningham, I said, Hi, Troy is in Colorado.
Hey Troy, how are you?
Hey, Sean.
Uh well, I got a litany of things to go over here.
Uh let me start uh with uh y you keep saying that uh everything's fixable and and preventable, but I don't think that's the the word that you should be using.
The the word that you should be using is intentional.
There is no way you can govern this badly by accident.
This is this is intentional.
And there's a I mean it's intentional by some, but I then I think you have the the true believers on the other hand.
Like I think there are people that want high gas prices because quote, that will force America to find alternative sources of energy which are non-existent.
The wind power, solar power, the these technologies are not capable of taking over for the lifeblood of the world's economy.
It's not.
No.
So I think there are people that know that but don't care because they want to advance that agenda because they're they're cult members and they've bought into this climate alarmist crap.
Go ahead.
Oh, absolutely.
Um but I I own a small trucking company, and finally got my dream of setting that up after driving driving trucks for 35 years, and I I look at everything that's going on.
These people somehow sit around and dream this stuff up and decide, let's let's raise the minimum wage up to $15 an hour so that people could live on it, and then they turn around and they make every policy and procedure that is gonna make $15 an hour seem like three dollars an hour uh because they're driving the price up on everything.
But nobody's looking at the big picture.
We're gonna be out of food because the farmers aren't gonna be growing it.
We're the truckers aren't gonna be able to transport it.
You've got high diesel fuel prices might it's like I said, it's a small fleet, but we were doing ten thousand dollars a week in fuel not that long ago, six months ago.
Now we're doing fifteen thousand dollars a week in fuel.
Uh but it gets passed on to the to the consumer.
I I don't end up eating it in the long run.
I gotta I I have to finance that debt because everything is accounts receivable.
So even though I raise my price, and you know, unfortunately I've been smart about my money and and we're able to weather this gap.
No, I'm I'm just telling you that this this is now gonna impact everybody in every way imaginable.
And and thankfully you're able to raise your prices, and you should not make less money, especially in inflationary times.
But you have no choice.
All of that gets passed on to the consumers.
Just like when the Democrats attack corporations, they really and they want to tax corporations, corporations are just gonna raise their prices.
Corporations do everything they can do to avoid paying taxes.
If they pay it, they're gonna pass the cost on to we the people.
And that's what's ultimately gonna happen, and that's where the fallacy lies.
Um but I'm c by the way, congratulations.
You worked 35 years.
Now you own your own business.
You worked hard for all of that to happen.
And I really wish you all the best and success in it, sir.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it, Sean.
You have a nice day.
All right, my friend, we appreciate your call.
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