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All right, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Rose.
And listen.
Okay.
So recently, I was asked if I would be, if I'd like to interview the 45th President of the United States.
And as you all know, that is Donald J. Trump.
So of course I want to interview a former President of the United States.
So on KDKA Radio, where I aired this segment first, I've decided to take portions of that to share with you because there were some interesting things that former President Donald Trump had to say.
And I was able to bring that to the KDKA audience, but also now to you.
So I'd like to share with you my interview, portions of that interview with Donald Trump.
All right, I have a surprise guest today, and that is none other than the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
How are you, Mr. President?
Well, I'm fine, and thank you very much, Rose.
You have an interesting state.
I went to school there.
I know it well.
That's right.
But it's a great state.
You know, the other day, Joe Scarborough on the morning of Tuesday's primary elections was predicting that you would fail miserably.
And that would be an indication that you had lost your influence.
But instead, you succeeded beyond everyone's imagination.
You were 22 and 0.
So here's my question, Mr. President.
If you were mourning Joe, would you have shown up for work on Wednesday?
Well, I don't watch him.
Most people don't watch him.
He's got bad ratings, but I didn't know he said that.
But that's just, you know, fake news because whether you like Trump or don't like him, we were 22-0.
We were actually 55-0, including local races.
I don't know if you heard that number was announced later.
55-0.
And we were 33-0 in Texas.
So it's very exciting when you think about it.
And I've endorsed Dr. Oz, who I've known for a long time.
He's an incredible guy, actually.
And I've known both of them, frankly.
But Dr. Roz will be a phenomenal senator.
You sort of see that from the debates and what he's doing.
And I guess he's got the lead or a little bit, but they're spending a lot of money.
They're spending a lot of money against it.
They really are.
The attack ads are just over the top.
And I, you know, I've spent some time with Dr. Oz and I found him to be both genuine and very thoughtful.
You know, all of the candidates wanted your endorsement, but only Dr. Oz received it.
Can you share with my audience why you chose Dr. Oz?
So he's a very, very smart guy.
They all are.
You know, look at their own way, I guess they all are.
But he's a very, very smart guy.
He's got a great compassion.
I like the fact that, you know, for 18 years, he's had a successful show.
That's like the ultimate poll.
People like him.
People relate to him.
It's very tough to have a show on television that lasts for one year, let alone 18.
And, you know, the fact that I know him so well, he's always treated me great.
I was on his show, actually, when I ran the first time, and he sort of did like a medical report on me.
Maybe I like him because he gave me a good report.
He said you could shed a few pounds.
That would be nice.
But he gave me a very good report.
And he's just a great guy.
His family is great.
His wife is a wonderful person.
And she'll be, you know, it's very important.
She'll be a tremendous representative, too.
And he's just got something about him.
And I think people are seeing that because they are hammering it with these ads, phony ads, by the way.
But they're hammering this guy with the ads.
And I think he's going to make it.
Now, you know, I don't see too many people other than myself have been hit with ads to the extent that he has because they really have purchased a lot of stuff that's false.
That's terrible.
And he's still leading.
Yes, he's still leading.
He tells you how well they know him.
You know, he's still leading.
He walks into a room, and in particular, the women, they go crazy over the guy.
You know, he's been talking to them for 18 years.
It's not bad.
He's been in their homes for a very long time.
He's helped them.
He was America's doctor, and they remember that.
And I think that he has that ability to get the crossover vote in the general election because it really does come down to that.
It's not about feelings.
It's not about emotions.
It's about who can win the general election.
And he appears to be prepared to do just that.
Well, that's the other thing.
I think he's going to win the general.
I was saying with JD Vance, he's going to do great in the general election.
I don't think the other people would have done very well.
And, you know, the numbers that are going to be thrown at whoever gets this and up in Ohio, too, the numbers are going to be astronomical.
I mean, in Ohio, the guy's going to have $60 million or something like that.
The amount of money, same thing here, probably.
I don't know what he's going to have, but it's going to be a lot.
And Oz will do better in the general election.
The guy that they're talking about winning, he F2, but the one that I suspect is going to win, he's a radical left guy.
I think, you know, I just think Oz will handle him better.
I agree.
I think Oz is, yeah, he's going to do great with the women.
He always does great with the women.
They love him.
You know, again, he's been telling them about all of the problems that they'll have and all of the wonderful things that they have going.
And he's been telling them about everything, both good and bad, for such a long time.
And by the way, his show was very successful.
It wasn't like no show lasts for 18 years unless it's very successful.
But his show was really successful.
And he was talking to these people, the same people that now have to vote.
So I think he will do very well in the general election.
Actually, I think he does better in the general election, in a sense.
I agree.
You know, it's what you need.
You have to win the general election.
Otherwise, this is all a waste of time.
You know, it's interesting because the Honorable Rick Perry was here in our area a couple of weeks ago.
And one of the things that he said about Dr. Oz was something that I actually picked up myself.
And that is that, like Trump, he said, Dr. Oz is a quick study.
And he really has appeared to be.
He picked up everything he needed to know about energy in the state.
And it's a very important issue in the state of Pennsylvania.
So he is, he's very much a quick study.
He's a smart guy.
Well, you have a guy now, Pat Tilbury, who's so bad.
This guy got hit.
He's so bad.
And, you know, but I had a big influence on him in terms of getting him elected.
I can tell you that.
And all he wanted to do is let China rule.
He didn't want to charge him tariffs.
He didn't want to charge.
I said, well, wait a minute.
If they're charging us 100% or 50% or more than 100%, why aren't we charging them the same thing?
And he'd go, well, it's not free and fair trade.
I said, they're charging us for weirds.
So they can charge us, but we can't charge them.
Is that what you say?
That's right.
I'll tell you what.
At the very beginning, I lost this guy.
I said, this guy, there's something going on with him.
He was horrible.
And the reason he didn't run is because I wouldn't endorse him because he was so bad.
And I was the only one that took on China.
Now, he has something with China, I guess.
But how this guy, Pat Toomey, got in.
And Pat Toomey is endorsing the opponent, as you know.
And you know the opponent I'm talking about, okay?
He's endorsing him.
And I hate to see that because he's so bad.
Even senators say this guy's unbelievable.
He never wants to do anything to China.
And in all fairness, I'm the only president that came in.
I charged China hundreds of billions of dollars worth of taxes and tariffs until I got there.
And I saved the steel industry.
You wouldn't have any steel industry right now.
It was also like U.S. Steel was ready to close down.
And I put tremendous tariffs on the dumping steel.
They would dump steel.
And I put it.
And if I didn't do that, everybody from the steel industry that sees me, they come over and they want to kiss me.
I mean, I say, no thanks.
Don't worry about it.
But this Pat Toomey is, he is just a terrible senator.
And he didn't run because I wouldn't give him the endorsement.
That's the only reason.
Wow, that's interesting.
I didn't know that.
You know, there is something I really wanted to ask you because recently Jen Saki said that while she was defending Biden's disinformation guidance board, they were only continuing what you had started under your administration.
Is there any truth to that?
I mean, I don't even know what she's talking about.
They're crazy.
These people are crazy.
And now you see the whole thing was disinformation about Russia, Russia, right?
Of course.
The Ukraine phone call with all disinformation.
Sure, the dossier was a fake thing.
And now you're seeing all the emails.
I'll say, I wish Jordan would go faster.
I wish he would have had this stuff out a year ago.
But it's unbelievable what's being uncovered.
It was a con job where, I mean, you see the notes, like, I don't know if anyone's going to believe this stuff, but let's send it out anyway.
This was going to be just a way of saving her the embarrassments of having lost an election.
Except it went for two and a half years, Russia, Russia, Russia.
So it was total.
It was worse than disinformation.
The Russia-Russia was a conjob.
And we have all the notes.
They have all these emails saying it was a con job.
Do you think, like, do you think anyone's going to believe this crap?
I don't think so.
No, no, but these are the emails that were sent out.
They send that out to, you know, everybody.
And they got caught.
Yeah.
They got caught.
And they got caught in a big way.
And this is no different.
When I watched Biden yesterday talking about that we're that MAGA, Make America Great Again, is a radical group.
Yep.
The most radical in the history of our country or something like that.
I'm saying, what about Antifa?
What about all this other, I mean, these people that are so horrible that we have that nobody does anything to them?
It's a disgrace.
Ultra MAGA.
He's only saying what they tell him to say.
Yep.
He said ultra MAGA yesterday.
Yeah, well, that seems to be the new thing.
And this is why we had no inflation.
Putin never would have got into Ukraine, never.
100% would never have gotten it.
No, I believe that.
Oh, forget it.
He did do it for four years.
He didn't do it for four years, somebody said.
He absolutely did.
We have a different country now.
They have destroyed this country in one and a half years.
So that was pretty much most of the interview that I had with President Trump.
And thank you to KDK for allowing me to use that.
And, you know, I have to say to you about Joe Biden, you know, he also said something recently about the ultra MAGA king or the king of MAGA.
And I'm like, wait, Mr. President, are you listening to what you're saying?
It's like, that's awesome.
He's the king.
It's just, it's out of control.
He just, I don't even know what he's talking about, but as if this was all something very negative.
All right.
we will be back with more of the Sean Hannity show right after this.
All right.
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Rose.
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You know, before we end this hour, I just, I wanted to talk about how our forefathers viewed our potential.
They believed that there was potential in every human being and that the best way to cultivate that potential was through individual liberty.
And see, when you have a tyrannical government or socialism or socialist dictatorships, they do nothing to enhance the human condition because it's the freedom that America has gifted to the world, on the other hand, that's raised the baseline of human existence beyond anything ever conceived before.
So listen, when I think about that, in fact, I've got two guests coming up that exemplify that because we live in a free world, because we can use our gifts and we are free to use them, we can achieve so much.
You know, I have Harold Hamm coming up and he created continental resources at the age of 21.
He is America's oil man.
He dedicated his entire life to being a tireless advocate for American oil.
This is potential that is untapped, but can be tapped into when you live in a free society.
And the founders believe that we all had greatness.
And the other guest that I have coming up is Ben Carson.
He's a retired pediatric neurosurgeon.
And he's so concerned about our children, about the country, about our future and the future for our children.
This man has had great success in his life because he was able to use the gifts he had been given and that we live as free people.
And he could cultivate that potential because of liberty.
That's what this is all about.
It's about liberty.
And that's why we want to hold on to it.
You know, this coming July 4th, we will be celebrating 246 years of liberty.
And it was given to us by men who pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to the cause.
We owe them a life dedicated to preserving that liberty, not a capitulation to the tyrannical forces of socialism, which we can see right now all around us, can't we?
We owe it to them.
We really do.
So that people like Harold Hamm and Dr. Ben Carson and you and me and others can pursue those dreams, have the freedom to be and do whatever it is we desire to do.
That's a glorious thing.
It really is.
It's such a gift from generations past.
And now we must look forward to generations in the future and make sure that we have secured that for them, for them.
Lots more coming up.
Make sure you check me out on social media.
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Okay, so we have so much more coming up.
Stay with us.
It's been a joy so far to spend this time with you.
I love it.
I love his audience, Sean's audience.
Thanks so much for staying with us and lots more on the other side.
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Joining me for this segment is America's oil man.
He was born in Lexington, Oklahoma, created Continental Resources at the age of 21.
See, it's never too young to start something great.
And he's grown the company into the top oil and gas producer in Oklahoma and North Dakota.
He's dedicated his entire life to being a tireless advocate for American oil and gas and the benefits it provides to humanity.
Please welcome to the show, Harold Hamm.
How are you, sir?
I'm just fine.
Thank you.
Thanks for coming on today.
I really appreciate it.
I did meet you in Pennsylvania, and we'll get into that in just a little bit.
But you have worked so hard for advancing horizontal drilling in this country.
And you're the one who's been leading the charge to lift the ban on U.S. crude oil exports.
And I thank you for all that you've done.
Oh, well, thank you.
And yeah, I want to talk to you more about when we met in Pennsylvania.
Yes, because my goodness, we live in a state that really could provide relief to so many people, not just in this country, but across the world.
I mean, Pennsylvania is the second largest natural gas producer in the United States.
Amazing.
It is amazing, and that's a wonderful field.
Marsalis is just, well, I think it's probably the second largest field in the world.
So very, very, very big.
It is.
And the thing is, what we could do here with just what's underneath our feet in the state of Pennsylvania, because I actually live in Pennsylvania, what we could do here would provide not only energy for our country, but for other countries as well.
And right now, when the European Union is reliant on Russian fossil fuels, that could change.
We could change that for other countries that are reliant upon Russia.
And now we're talking Iran and Saudi Arabia.
My goodness, I never thought it would come to that.
Did you?
No.
And, you know, we're exporting around the world to our allies, you know, the cleanest fuel in the world.
So it's magnificent the change.
You know, people thought at one time that the U.S. would be importing natural gas, much like it did oil.
And, you know, that wasn't what happened.
It went the other way.
With horizontal drilling, we're able to produce the source beds themselves, the shale, you know, where the hydrocarbons are formed.
And so it's about 85% of what was in, you know, we only have been working on about 15% that leaked off those source beds for the last 150 years.
So a lot of supply that we have here in the U.S. Thank God.
You know, but the thing is, when we look at this current administration and this President Biden's unwillingness to reverse course on a lot of what they've already set in motion, our oil and gas industry is going, it could go out of business.
I mean, it's standing in the way of relief to Americans.
It's really ridiculous what this administration has done and basically taken off the table about a third of the capacity of the U.S.
And that's federal lands that weren't settled back when all the land runs were done.
And this is Wyoming, New Mexico, some in Montana, North Dakota, and a lot of other places.
But it's about 26% of the land mass and the Gulf of Mexico, but it's about a third of the productive capacity that's available.
And so if anybody's wondering why we have $5.50 diesel and $4.40 gasoline, that's the reason the failed policies of this administration is causing that.
And now they're trying to place the blame on big oil.
And we're not big oil, let me tell you.
And big oil didn't do it.
This administration did it.
And they're trying to place the blame somewhere else.
They are indeed.
And you mentioned diesel prices.
As that continues to rise, and it is continuing to rise, the cost of diesel, then you consider then the supply issue.
How do we get items that we need as Americans to the grocery stores, other items as well, if our guys can't afford to fill up their trucks?
I mean, we're looking at, you see on the internet, they're showing receipts at the gas station, these truckers.
I mean, this is out of control right now.
I don't know how we survive this if it continues to grow at the rate it has been.
Everybody needs to call their senators, call the representatives, call this administration, have them reverse policy.
This is not working.
No fuel prices are going to get higher, not cheaper.
Demand continues to go up, as you just said.
We have to distribute products and supplies, and that drives inflation.
It just drives everything up.
So we need everybody to be calling this administration and tell them to reverse course immediately and put this country back on a good economic policy again and get rid of this high inflation.
Yeah, because one of the things that we still hear about this, Mr. Hand, constantly, oh, the White House says there's 9,000 permits out there.
Don't blame us.
There's 9,000 permits.
Blame those permit holders.
Well, that's not exactly true, is it?
It's not really their fault, is it?
That's not true at all.
They know better than that.
They do.
I mean, half of those are in litigation.
You know, we're down to like 1,500 balance permits and federal lands you can even use if you hadn't made any change in location or anything else.
They're just not issuing anymore.
And it's not issuing any new federal leases.
And for all the people, all the companies got so much invested in federal leases.
Now you can't develop your properties.
So it's really crazy what this administration has done.
And we need people elected that are good decision makers, can analyze situations and move quickly.
And that's why Mehmet Oz is the person we need to elect in Pennsylvania.
You two have been friends for a very long time.
This isn't a new relationship.
You were actually here, right?
You've known him for a long time.
Why?
How do you know him?
How do you know him?
I know him from a long way back.
You know, one of the things I have passion for is health care.
And, you know, he's done more for health care than anybody I know.
And, you know, he's got a program and we sponsored it here in Oklahoma as well.
And he takes, you know, good health care into our schools and charter schools and regular schools.
And anyway, there's like seven or eight schools here in Oklahoma that he sponsored and we've sponsored and others.
And it's a great program.
And anyway, that's where I got acquainted with him some 10 years ago.
And he's a wonderful person.
We've just been great friends.
And I appreciate all that he's done.
And I appreciate his commitment and for, you know, his care for this country and what he would like to do.
So I'm all for him.
You know, I saw you here.
You were here in Southwestern PA.
There was an energy forum.
It was you and the Honorable Rick Perry and also Toby Rice from EQT, who's a great young man, by the way.
He really gets it.
And he's working hard to bring us into where we are in terms of being safe when we produce, in terms of being clean when we produce.
And I just, I really love where he's going.
But anyway, so the three of you were here with Dr. Oz for this energy symposium.
And I was, you know, it was really listening to all of you speak, there was such a level of enthusiasm.
And one of the things that Rick Perry had said about Dr. Oz was that he gets it.
He understands the energy issue.
He understands what needs to be done.
And he did say, he said, you know, this guy's a quick learner.
And I actually saw that in him as well.
You talked to him about a subject, a topic, policy, and he does seem to pick it up rather quickly.
Yes, he is an awfully quick learner.
He's so smart, and he gets it real quickly, as Rick said.
And yeah, we enjoyed our time there.
You know, Toby Rice, I can't say enough good things about him.
And certainly Rick Perry, he's been great on energy as long as I've known him.
And, you know, as governor of Texas and up till today, it's time at the DOE.
You know, he knows his business.
And certainly he wouldn't have been there, you know, if he didn't believe just as I do in Dr. Oz.
Yeah, that's right.
They all came out for Dr. Olive, you did for Dr. Oz and for energy and for the country.
That's all you all cared about.
And there was such a level of enthusiasm from Dr. Oz and yourself and Rick Perry and Toby Rice that it caught on.
It was like a fire that just caught on in the audience.
And so many people walked away saying that they had learned something that night and they were very impressed with this symposium.
So thank you for making the trip to Southwestern PA.
It's a beautiful state, isn't it, over here on this side of the state?
Oh, it is.
Yeah, it's a state that I've always enjoyed visiting and learning about and being a part of.
So it's a great state.
So yeah, you've got a lot to be proud of.
Thank you.
And Mr. Ham, I mean, the bottom line is this.
We can't fool around.
We need someone who can win the general election because on just this topic alone, although there are so many other issues at stake, right, that are equally important, the abortion issue, Second Amendment issue, all of these things, our right to speak our mind.
All of these things are important.
So is energy.
Because if we cannot be independent, God knows what's going to happen to us down the road.
God help us.
And that's why we need to win this election.
You're exactly correct.
You know, energy is just one of them.
There are so many other issues out there of equal importance.
And we need somebody to win a general election.
We need to retain the seat, the conservative seat in the state.
And Dr. Oz can do it.
And that's why momentum is coming his way.
Get behind him.
And so I think he can win, win it all.
We just got to get him to this primary to give him a chance.
All right.
Thank you for that.
And I have to ask you this question, though, because one of the things I was most impressed with, I mean, you've done so much.
You really have for the industry, for our country as a result.
But when you created Continental Resources, you did that at the age of 21.
How is it that at that young age, you had the, I mean, like, that's amazing.
Not very many people can say they've done something like that.
What's the secret?
Share that with the young people in the audience.
It is, you know, we all do better for something we have a passion for.
And, you know, I developed a great passion early on in high school, you know, learning about the petroleum industry and oil and gas and what it had already done for America.
And I just felt like it was my destiny.
And, you know, I was all in.
And so anyway, I got in business and started from the ground up and wanted to do just exactly what I've done.
And it's been a great run.
We'll create something with horizontal drilling that's, you know, created the great renaissance in American energy.
Yes.
Brought us energy, independence, freedom from being dependent on any country in the world.
And it's just been a great run.
I can't say enough for our energy industry.
And I also can't say enough for if you're passionate about something, go for it.
And that's basically what I picked up from you after having listened to you talk.
I mean, listen, you could retire right now and enjoy life, no problem.
But you said that you still care so very much for this country.
That's why you were willing to still fight for the industry and also fight for good leaders in Washington.
And that's why you were endorsing Dr. Oz.
And you could, you didn't have to do any of this.
You could relax and rest on your laurels, right?
You could, but you didn't.
Yeah.
I could.
And, you know, the good Lord has blessed me with good health.
And, you know, so I love what I'm doing.
You know, I enjoy, you know, being associated with great people.
And so that's what this is all about.
Well, you know what?
Continued good health for you, sir.
And God bless.
Thank you for all that you've done.
Thank you.
All right.
Well, thank you.
And it's good to be with you today.
Thank you.
Harold Hamm.
Thank you very much.
Well, that was Harold Hamm.
And I just loved talking to him.
He's very inspiring.
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