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So we're following the race in Pennsylvania for the U.S. Senate and the Republican nomination, and it's been a tight race all throughout the race.
Um big moment came when President Trump endorsed uh Dr. Oz, who I am supporting.
Well, Hannity, he's your friend.
Of course you're going to support him.
I actually have friends running in this election that I'm not supporting because I don't agree with their positions, and I don't believe they're gonna fight to the degree that I'm gonna need them to fight.
Another thing I look at is electability.
There are some people, you know, you check out their background, and you know that in a general election, they're just not electable.
So Oz for me checked all of those boxes.
It's so reminiscent of when I first went out in support of Donald Trump.
I mean, I had one conservative after another, just just ripping me to shreds, tearing me down, questioning whether I'm a true, real conservative, which I have been consistently on the radio now for 35 plus years and 26 and a half years on Fox News.
And I put my reputation on the line because I knew Donald Trump had long lengthy discussions with Donald Trump, and I knew that he would govern as a conservative.
And guess what?
I was right, and all of my critics were wrong, and eventually most of them even came around and said, Oh, Hannity was right.
Well, they didn't quite say it that way.
They just started supporting Donald Trump.
They wanted to be like super Trump supporters.
Um, I see the same thing, and I have the same relationship with Dr. Oz.
I know that he is America first.
I know that he's make America Great Again.
I know that he is pro-life, pro-second amendment.
I know that he's gonna fight for secure borders, energy independence.
I know he believes in peace through strength.
I believe that he he understands the necessity of free and fair trade.
I know that he will take seriously the the vetting process of anybody appointed to the Supreme Court, and he supports constitutionalists to the Supreme Court, not people that will legislate from the bench.
And as I I've watched this race unfold, I've seen probably if you add it all up, I've read some estimates from from various locations, maybe 35, 40 million dollars in negative ads have been run against him.
Now, I saw the same phenomenon unfold when Donald Trump was running into primary.
Remember, he's up against 16 other people, and he emerged successful.
But they spent in that case, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars, 40 million dollars in a Senate race is a lot of money.
And I've seen these ads, and I've I've not spent a lot of time attacking the people that are running just nothing but negative ads.
But uh when I see them, it makes the guy that I know that I have personally vetted unrecognizable to me.
And that's sad because it's a disservice to the people in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Bottom line.
Anyway, here is the president.
They had a rally for President Trump had a rally Friday night in the pouring rain, thousands of people showing up, urging people to vote for uh Dr. Oz, and here's what he said.
So the primary is on May 17th, but early voting begins this Tuesday, May 10th.
Get out And vote vote for Dr. Oz.
He's an outstanding person.
All right, so now I know Donald Trump as well, also.
He doesn't support people that are not supportive of his agenda.
But again, if you're in Pennsylvania and you're inundated with these ads day in and day out, you know, you begin to doubt.
Oh, um what they do is they slice dice edit.
You can do anything in an edit room.
I work in television, I work in radio, I know how to do it.
We don't do that.
Anyway, here's uh Dr. Oz's latest ad.
It has been raining nonstop all day, but that has not stopped locals from turning out in force at a huge rally or Republican Senate candidate, Dr. Mehmet Oz.
Great on you one.
We're gonna have a lot of fun, Pennsylvania.
We're gonna have a lot of fun.
It's time to start talking about greatness for our country again.
That starts with nominating my friend Dr. Mehmet Oz.
He's a great man.
After Oz, I've known him a long time.
Three law, President Trump, Pennsylvania.
When you save the soul of Pennsylvania, you save the soul of America.
And the rest of the world is watching us.
That's what we're fighting for.
That's why President Trump means the world to me that you're here, sir.
God bless you.
Dr. Oz is a man who truly believes in the MAGA movement.
He believes it 100%.
We can always count on Dr. Oz to stand up for the United States.
And you're going to send Dr. Oz to fight for you in the US Senate.
And we'll make America great again.
Thank you, Pennsylvania.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
So obviously a big moment in the campaign.
Dr. Oz joins us back once again.
So uh we'll know one week from today how this primary comes out.
Latest polls have you up.
Uh it's a very, very tight race with you, and uh it looks like now Kathy Barnett uh has come into second place uh with uh Dave McCormick now in third place, but it's it's a close three-way race by any measure.
Uh, what are your what's your take on why we're at this point?
Do you think 40 million dollars in negative ads have has played a part in in this being a tighter race than maybe I would have expected?
Without question, when they throw that kind of money at you, and President Trump warned me.
He said, You're an outsider like I was, and the inside establishment is going to attack you, they're gonna go crazy because they know that you won't follow their script.
And as he predicted, they showed up.
Ads from all angles, manufactured all the things you said about me, uh they they said were not true.
President Trump specifically in the announcement, he wrote himself said I was pro-life.
They've been attacking that strong on crime, the border.
But by the way, you've been pro-life your whole life.
Just because you talked medically about when a child is viable does not take away your belief that you believe life begins at conception.
Uh I understand that that's a belief you've had your whole life.
It is, and I've been very vocal about it.
In the actual interview that they claim that I wasn't pro-life.
I said I was pro-life in the actual interview.
So it but doesn't welcome to the world of politics.
It's a blood sport.
Exactly.
And also, I by the way, you know, I he said I would fight for support or underseach second amendment.
The NRA gave me their highest grade for someone who's not served yet in office.
Uh Ped Nugent endorsed me and others who love guns, and yet that's one of the other big knocks.
But here's the thing.
I actually think Pennsylvania's are smart.
They recognize that these ads are uh distorted.
But what they did do was they sullied by reputation.
By the way, my main opponent, Dave McCormick experienced you know something to a lesser degree, but also selling, and that gave an opportunity for a third contender to enter, which you know mixes it up even more.
We knew that it was gonna be a tight race.
Um and this woman uh Barnett has now uh joined the fray.
She's very different, though.
She's I gotta say, in my opinion, I think she's a pony because and you know, because she's actually an insider.
She claims not to be, but she's the worst kind of insider because she lost.
She lost big about 20 points uh two years ago to a weak democrat.
Let me read some tweets.
September 26, 2015.
This and and I've interviewed Kathy Barnett when she was on this radio program, uh, and my interview, I was impressed with her.
But I'm a little shocked.
She's uh everything I've seen she's claiming she's uh a MAGA person.
She said about Donald Trump, uh, we have Cruz, we have Ben Carson.
I like Trump 2016.
He's a riot, but he's nothing more than headlines, very little substance.
Then she said the same day, you know, Trump 2016 is good for four beers and barbecue, but not as president.
We are morally bankrupt.
Uh and we could do you know, do different.
I I'm not sure of what the Twitter spelling here is.
Then on September 28th, two days later, she says Trump 2016's moral character is questionable, braggadocious plus constant jabs, four bankruptcies, uh brags, bending rules.
Uh then she said in March of 2016, this is scary.
Trump openly rejecting certain media who point out issues with him and his campaign, March 17, saying uh we're not asking for perfection, but we should demand a higher moral character uh than I assume she means Donald Trump, you know, uh cra D crackhead down D street, whatever the hell that means.
I can't read Twitter.
But I mean, clearly she's not a Trump fan.
How does she claim that she's MAGA?
I don't know.
And even uh when we were on the debate stage uh two weeks ago, she said, you know, Donald Trump uh didn't make MAGA.
Uh we made MAGA and he came to us.
I actually have that cut.
Let me play that.
That I that caught my attention as well.
MAGA does not belong to President Trump MAGA, although he coined the word MAGA is actually it belongs to the people.
Our values never never shifted to President Trump's values.
It was President Trump who shifted and aligned with our values.
Uh I'm not exactly sure what she's saying because he ran on that MAGA platform and created it.
Exactly.
And I don't know how you would take that away from him.
Uh especially after you've dissed him a bunch of times for not being all that uh capable, and he ends up winning and I think doing a superb job as president.
But again, this is we're not talking about comments from years ago.
Less than two weeks ago at a at a debate that uh that everyone was able to watch in nation nationally, but also uh everyone that did watch in Pennsylvania, she's had this.
She was looking around thinking, why would why why would she uh attack the fact that he was his legacy of coalescing MAGA together?
But you know, it goes on from there.
She did there there's so much about her every hour we discover something new.
And it goes beyond, for example, if you're a law and order Republican, which you know I think we all should be in the primary, especially, while violent protesters are burning down our cities, she was expressing a desire to join Black Lives Matter in Minneapolis.
You know, while the founding thought, yes.
And she she was right about the fact that you know these protests were necessary and important and attributing uh these protests to systemic racism.
So these are conversations that and you want you these are all on video.
So you you watch them all, you know, she nuances it.
There's elements of it that you can sort of nod your head with, but it's a very aggressive approach.
Um and you know, at that same time period, by the way, while when our founding father's statues were being torn down, she wanted to erect a statue to Obama.
So I don't think these values align.
I did I did read that.
That kind of that kind of caught my attention.
And uh I I guess the context is uh she had an idea, I guess, of Obama for Douglas statue erected near the emancipation memorial statue.
Uh I never knew a conservative that was really that fond of Barack Obama.
Well, I I gotta say, what we are saying here on the ground in Pennsylvania is that Kathy Barnett is the best chance for Democrats to capture Fedman's seat, the next Senate seat.
And I I don't think anyone here is taking lightly that possibility.
Uh she's br you know for most of the case.
Well, this is what concerns me, and this is not personal in any way.
As I said when I when I had her on this program, I liked her.
And I think she has enormous uh I I felt at the time she has enormous potential.
Um uh a lot of this is new to me, and what I'm realizing here is you know, somebody in a a tightly bunched race that you're in the lead in uh could come out of nowhere and win this, and I would argue she's not a vetted candidate.
And and you know, we this is a must-save seat if Republicans have any hope of taking back the U.S. Senate.
This is not a game to me.
You know, if you remember all the questions I threw at you for months and months and months before I decided to endorse you, um, I I don't think my my vetting process was uh could have been any more arduous.
It was pretty difficult.
I was putting you on the spot a lot.
Well, I'll tell you there was a brilliant article in the Washington Examiner today, uh, written by Selena Zito, who you know, who raised that very question.
She's a mystery woman, right?
And but what we do know is concerning.
Um, but there's all kinds of questions about her I know from what she claims about military service and you know uh you know where she studied and when she actually moved to Pennsylvania.
None of these were answered by her campaign staff when this writer who's written off profiles in all the major candidates except her, because no one ever really knew much about her and thought much about her.
So I I recognize that there's a passion to find additional candidates.
All makes sense, but we don't want to make a mistake as it's been made in past elections, even within the last decade, where we took strong candidates who had gone through a very arduous process that you described, had been attacked a lot because of that process, but at least you find out their weaknesses and whether they can stand up to it.
And all of a sudden we're and whether or not they can win in a general election.
I cannot answer that question right now because there's not enough information.
And the few things that I have found uh about her, especially, you know, her being so anti Trump really surprised me.
And this I I'm not sure where the Obama love came from, but I mean I there's certainly it's questions that need to be answered.
Here's the problem.
And Pennsylvania is mostly a day of voting state.
This primaries in six days is is uh i is the are Republicans able to vet her, and is that gonna get into the political bloodstream of of the pe of the Commonwealth well enough so people know exactly who Kathy Barnett is, just like they know who you are and who Dave is.
No, it's they'll be rolling the dice.
She's not answering at least her team is not answering calls from reporters, as I just shared.
Uh, this is a major concern.
And if they're not being challenged with the difficult questions that you asked me and other candidates have already had to withstand, then uh we're gonna be tossing the dice on whether someone is a good general candidate.
And again, the history of this process, when it's happened like this, is not a good one for Republicans.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back to a few more minutes.
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We're just holding over Dr. Oz uh as we we examine these new poll numbers.
He's in the lead and uh for the nomination for the Republican Senate seat that is open with Pat Toomey leaving in the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, uh, and then the sudden uh rise of of Kathy Burnett, who has not been vetted by anybody, any place, anywhere.
Uh and we'll get to that back to that in a second.
I was warning people because I saw the the tens of millions of dollars being dumped on your head.
And it made you, the person I know unrecognizable to me.
And I w I'm watching this unfold.
I know people that work on other campaigns, and I said, This is not going to end well.
This is a really bad idea when Republicans spend that much money just just trying to tear down every other Republican in a race.
She was ignored because her polls were so low.
And now we're six days out and nobody's vetted her.
And and she's right up there, you know, just you know, nipping at your heels with I guess you have a two three point lead at this point.
It's tight.
Uh and it's up to us both as candidates to get the word out about the concerns we have uh uh over Barnett, but it's also up to her to be responsive.
You know, come clean in all the things you're being asked about.
Not responding to a well-respected journalists with questions on simple things that you know you don't have to consult anybody with.
You know where you grew up and where you went to school and everything.
They should be shared.
The fact that we don't even have those basic bits of information clear uh is a major concern because what we are finding is a little unsettling.
And I'll say it again.
The fact that you know when the country's being torn apart, you're expressing a desire to go to go join BLM is a is a problem for me.
I don't think those are the values of Pennsylvanians.
And I know that if Pennsylvania's knew this stuff, they'd be upset about it.
And you know, no one wants to go out there and do the exact same thing as one of the things that we're gonna do.
If just the stuff that I saw made it into the political bloodstream of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I would argue probably overnight seven-point drop of Kathy Barnett.
Oh, but I don't know if that's gonna happen between now and then, which is a little scary, especially if you're factoring in.
This is a must-hold Senate seat, and whoever gets this nomination's gotta win.
And some of the stuff I'm reading is is pretty troubling, and uh somebody's gotta you know get to the bottom of all of this.
Um, and I'm not sure what's six days you have enough time to do it.
Well, you have a ton of listeners.
This this interview right now could change the course.
Call your friends in Pennsylvania.
If you're already in Pennsylvania, call a couple of friends, and I'll just give you one fact.
Forget about all the other stuff.
We're trying to put someone, if you're supporting her, in that position to campaign.
Uh when she the last time, the last time she did campaign, less than two years ago, she got crushed by 20 points by a weak democrat.
So that's in a general election.
That's that's my fear.
Um anyway, people want to people want to see where you are on issues, etc., etc.
What what do they do?
Dr. Oz dot com.
I'm very transparent.
Check it out, but you know get vocal guys.
This is this Latin week left.
This is how Americans do.
Be brave, spread the word.
This is a must-hold Senate seat if Republicans have any chance of taking the Senate.
Wow.
Uh, Dr. Oz, we appreciate you being with us, and you have given me more time so I can give an honest assessment to my audience.
And that's why I fully support and endorse your candidacy, and I and I hope a week from today we're able to have you on and celebrate a victory.
Uh, this is getting a little scary to me.
How do you have a candidate unvetted?
Well, you go with the vetted one.
I trust Pennsylvania they had to do the right thing.
You know, I tell this audience I can explain conservatism in a minute.
And I often do it.
And some might say it's repetitive, but conservatism to me is not that complicated, and it makes the lives of the American people better.
One quicker way to say it would be whatever Joe Biden's doing, do the opposite.
But I but I think it's important for people to hear in your own words what what drove you into this race.
What made you leave a highly successful, well-paying, syndicated talk show, one of the highest paying jobs in in all of media, uh, to do this, and and what will you do for the people of the Commonwealth?
Love of country.
I got tired of seeing how crises were affecting us, hurting our people, taking our jobs, you know, destroying our conservatism.
And there's no point in me living out my days in a safety of a studio or an operating room, because ORs are actually pretty safe for the surgeons, and knowing that I could have done something to intervene and help, and I did.
So I jumped into the race.
There's an it was an open race, lots of opportunity to reflect the values of Pennsylvania, which is a microcosm of the country.
So Pennsylvania is often the deciding state in presidential elections, but also critically important for the Senate to hold our Republican seat.
And my conservative values are put out there real quickly.
Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
Life starts at conception, protect the little children in grade school, don't let them get indoctrinated, get them well educated and provide them health care as they go and go older.
You got to control the border and have appropriate law and order in cities, so their lives are protected.
Uh prosperity liberty is all about the First Amendment, first for a reason.
You and I value that.
The second amendment is also part of that because it protects the first and all the other amendments.
And finally, pursuit of happiness to me is about capitalism.
It's a guaranteed form of freedom we all crave.
And together with capitalism, we need individualism.
We don't want to be a collectivist society where the government tells you what to do.
Be yourself.
It's the best way to deal with the major crises we face.
All right, Dr. Oz, thank you so much for being with us.
Six days of very important Senate race.
We're watching very, very closely, and we appreciate your time as always.
All right, to our busy phones we go.
Tracy in the great state of Ohio.
Tracy, it says you're a nurse.
Are you a nurse?
Yes, I've been a nurse for thirty years.
Well, you know, my thr my sisters were all nurses.
They all got out of it eventually because it's such hard work, but and and they're doing other great things.
Every nurse I've ever met in my life has a heart of gold.
Every single one of them.
It's a special calling, and God bless you, thirty years.
You you you had to be born to do this because I know I would never want to do your job.
It's too hard.
It takes a special type of person to be a nurse.
You have to be a little mental, to be honest with you.
That's kind of like being a talk show host.
It takes a special type of mindset.
You gotta be willing to get the crap kicked out of you every day and not care, and then you gotta be uh a little bit off.
I agree.
And you go back for it every day.
Every day.
But I wanted to call in um I think people need to open their eyes.
I've been a nurse for thirty years.
I was injured while taking care of a patient in two thousand and eighteen.
I'm getting ready to have my fifth surgery, and I'm on workers' compensation, which is a fixed income that I knew nothing about workers' comp because I've never been injured at work.
Um all the bills keep coming, the rates are going up.
The electric company in O Dayton, Ohio is raising their rates from four point eight to ten point nine, so it's gonna double everyone's electric bills.
What I didn't realize is I can no longer invest in my future because workers' compensation is not a taxable income.
What is the what is the extent of your injury?
How long do you think you're gonna be out?
Can you ever get back to work?
Or is this Umitating surgery?
Um I had tendons and ligaments ripped in my hand, and um that takes a long time to heal.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So I mean, I'm doing everything I can do, attending all of my appointments and doing everything I need to do, and I did everything right before.
I'm a conservative.
I saved my money, I had my nest egg.
I invest in my future.
Well, I no longer have a savings account because all the prices have gone up, and for the last two years I have, you know, done my due diligence and paid my mortgage and done everything.
However, one I can't sell my house because I can't get a loan.
I don't have an income, even though I have workers' comp, if that makes any sense to anybody.
No, it it does make sense.
And and first of all, you've done everything right.
You know, you you you're like every American I know.
They work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes, uh, they discipline themselves, they they save money anywhere they can, they save for their retirement.
You've done all of these things unforeseen, you have a severe injury.
Now you're on workman's comp and it's not adequate enough for you to keep your head above water.
Now you gotta dip into your savings.
Um I I would assume workers' comp allows for rehabilitation and physical therapy, I hope.
They do allow for that, but you also I have to pay for my own health insurance out of that money because I no longer have health insurance from a job because I can't do the job.
How do they take and you were injured on the job though?
So how do they take that away from you?
Because they can write it into their policies at the organization that if you're on workers' comp for so many months, they can eliminate your position.
I'm gonna recommend one thing first, and the second thing I'm gonna recommend to you.
First thing I'm gonna recommend is you find a lawyer.
Okay.
A good lawyer.
I have done that so far.
I have one.
Okay.
And I would make sure that that lawyer is very firm in stating uh that what they're doing is is likely uh not gonna fly with you.
And then I would follow through.
Don't make it a th empty threat.
Only do it if you mean it.
And I would it sounds to me like they have no right to take away your health insurance just because you're injured.
Let me just tell you as a matter of fact.
Anybody that works, for example, for this radio show, um that that has some difficulty.
We're not just saying goodbye to you.
We're gonna work with you as long as needed uh to help that person in and and get them recovered and get them back on the show as quickly as possible.
Um that's not a good idea.
did you ever have any disability insurance at all?
Yes, and uh I unfortunately lost that when they eliminate my position.
Okay, and you know what I'm gonna say.
This has lawsuit written all over it to me.
I'm uh I'm not a lawyer, I'm not gonna play one on radio, but you need a great workman's compensation attorney, somebody that's gonna go fight for you and and stand up for you.
That's number one.
Number the next thing you need to do is what you're doing, and that is get healthy as quickly as possible.
Look, I I've had new a couple of injuries over the last year, and I haven't really talked about it publicly.
And and one was pretty severe.
And I I just worked hard to avoid surgery.
Worked really, really hard.
And uh now I have the resources to do it.
Uh I also have the ability to sit during my job.
There were days it was hard to move, um, but I did it.
And you know, the the thing that I don't want you doing is reaching into your pocket and taking away all of your savings, all your lifelong savings.
So the thing that I'm gonna recommend to you is maybe possibly I would double up on your physical therapy, because that's what I did.
They told me what to do, and I did it twice a day, not once a day.
And I did it twice as hard.
I didn't I didn't go the easy route, and I have a pretty high threshold for pain, so that wasn't a problem.
And the other thing I would maybe look into, maybe there are ways that you might be able to, even with your injury, find income that you can bring into your household temporarily while your lawyer is working to get this righted for you, because it sounds to me like this needs to be corrected legally.
The other thing is if you work, then you lose your workers' compensation income.
I should have known.
So it's a double-edged sword.
That's a double edge.
Then get that lawyer and has he sent a letter yet?
Yes, he did.
He started the process.
Ugh.
Well, how so how long do they stink till you'll be able to get back to work?
I'm waiting for their approval for the final surgery.
So I'm just sitting waiting now.
I've been waiting for three months for them to say, okay, have that surgery.
You you just can't make this up.
By the way, thank you very much for your 30 years of service.
Good grief.
Um I really feel sorry for you.
I I will tell you the system sucks.
You know what most Americans don't know that I know before the midterm elections, everybody's health care is going to go up dramatically.
We're already paying 250% more.
Forget about keep your doctor plan and save money.
That that's out the window.
Uh anyway, Tracy, God bless you.
You're in our prayers.
I'm sorry this is so difficult.
It need not be this way, and and sadly for you it is.
Keep us in the loop.
Let us know how this works out, okay?
Feel better.
Yep, hopefully they learn.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
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