Remembering The Contract with America - May 9th, Hour 2
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So I got a text message from Newt Gingrich the other day, and in it was a plan, an outline of basically how to save this great republic.
And it's not the first time that Speaker Gingrich has been involved in this sort of effort.
I know many of you don't know the history, and many of you might forget the history, but when he became Speaker in 1994, when the Republicans ran on the contract for America, Republicans had not had control of the House of Representatives for 40 consecutive years.
I mean, that's four straight decades in the wilderness out of power.
And Democrats ruled Washington, D.C.
And it all started first with ideas and a program that Newt Gingrich used to help train and educate candidates called Renewing American Civilization.
And then it culminated in what was called the Contract with America.
Anyway, he now is the author of the upcoming book, and you can get a first edition copy.
It's coming out very soon.
We have a link on Hannity.com.
There's a link on Amazon.com.
It's called Defeating Big Government Socialism and Saving America's Future.
And it reminds us about his contract with America, why it's relevant today, how Republicans should probably duplicate this model this election season.
I call this the tipping point of all tipping point elections, somewhat cliche, an inflection moment for the country for sure.
But if you are determined to be an American in the majority and you're committed to listening to and learning from the American people, the contract with America, I mean, this is the only way to go.
And I'll tell you, because distrust of Washington and elected politicians has never been higher.
And they have earned their low approval ratings by not following up on the promises that they make.
Anyway, Speaker Gingrich joins us now.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well, and I appreciate all those nice words.
I think we have an opportunity to really have an amazing election.
One of the people that I most like to read, because I think she just has so many practical, useful insights, is Selena Zita, who's a reporter and the New York City.
Yeah, and she's from Pittsburgh.
And she just did something which took us back to the election of 1894, which was one of the greatest Republican sweeps in history.
And I would say 1920 is the other one.
I think these are tsunami elections.
They're not just waves, where you have just an enormous shift.
And I think that's building.
I just talked to a woman who had driven to a different, to another state trying to find baby formula.
I talked this morning to somebody who was describing the shooting of six people on Mother's Day in Atlanta, three of them dead, three of them in critical condition, may not survive.
Every time you turn around, there are things that are not working that relate back directly to the failure of liberal policies.
And I think the opportunity it creates, and this is why I wrote the piece which is now available and which will be a podcast this week, and it came out initially as four consecutive newsletters that are available at Gambler's 360.
And the reason I talked about an American majority is this is one of those rare moments which Reagan had and we had in 94 with a contract standing on Reagan's shoulders, frankly.
And that is to actually reach out and broaden your base, not just mobilize it, or as Kevin McCarthy keeps saying, you know, to expand your brand so that suddenly you have a whole bunch of new people.
In Reagan's case, we called them Reagan Democrats, and over the course of about 8 to 12 years, about 80 or 90% of them became Republicans.
But they had to go through a process of realizing they no longer belonged to that other team.
And what I'm watching now is such a stunning level of incompetence.
And I remind people, it's both, we have a lot of people who aren't very good in the Biden administration.
They're just not competent.
But in addition, what they believe doesn't work.
Reagan used to say he wasn't worried about what they didn't know.
He was worried about what they knew that wasn't true.
And I always tell people, you know, you can put eggs in a freezer and they will get hard, but that doesn't mean they're boiled eggs.
And these are people who don't understand that.
I mean, the stuff they're doing is a disaster.
But here's the challenge for you and me and everybody who is dedicated to getting America to a better place.
What you can't do is have the Republicans win this fall, not understand the potential American majority, try to govern from a narrow base and try to do it in a hostile, negative way, turn off the country and throw everything back up in the air.
What we have to do is educate the Republican Party that it has a job.
And you see this, by the way, with many of the governors who are doing a great job.
And the fact is, as Stephen Moore keeps pointing out in his daily paper on prosperity, Republican governors are creating jobs.
Republican governors are expanding freedom.
Republican governors are lowering taxes.
Boeing said one of the reasons they're coming to Virginia is that the new Republican governor, Yunken, understood business, understood lowering taxes, understood fighting crime.
And they're so sick of Chicago, both the violence in the city and the high taxes and the bureaucracy, that this is a huge blow to Chicago to lose a company the size of Boeing.
And they just said the quality of life for their people in Chicago is no longer sustainable.
So we do see at the state level a huge difference between a pro-solution, productive conservatism by Republicans and what the Democrats are doing that just gets worse and worse in places like New York, New Jersey, Illinois, California.
By the way, did you see about 10 days ago 59% of people in New Jersey want to leave?
59%.
Yeah, and you can't blame them.
And I think we're going to have to take a lot of ownership next time.
And my point is, if we approach this as Americans and we reach out and we basically learn how to talk with each other, we're going to have a hardcore 20% of the Democratic Party that will never be part of that because their vision is of a totally alien, different world.
But we'll get at least a third to half the Democrats.
When, you know, Reagan carried his tax cuts because a third of the Democrats voted with him.
When we passed the contract with America, our average vote was 63 Democrats voting yes on each of the 10 items.
So you can, it's not because we compromised, it's because we aroused the American people and they put so much pressure on them that they felt they couldn't go home and survive without voting with us.
Let me go into a question into this because it's called Forming an American Majority.
And let me tell you why I think you're on to perhaps the best work you've ever done in your life, which speaks volumes because you've had such a successful and inspiring life.
But we now can see young people are abandoning Democrats and droves.
We see African Americans abandoning Democrats and droves.
We see Hispanic Americans abandoning Democrats and droves.
And this all started under Trump until the waters got muddied with COVID.
And as I was listening to this forming the American Majority, I realized, and I wrote you a little bit of a note when I had started listening and now having finished listening, that this is really a culmination of a life's mission of yours, which is to renew American civilization, or as you call form an American majority.
And you're basically talking about reconfiguring the electorate in the country and that the Republican Party needs to do it, and it's got to be based on ideas that make the lives of American citizens better.
Instead of, in other words, lecturing Americans about getting used to the high price of energy until they find alternative sources of energy other than gas and oil and coal and lecturing them to go buy electric cars, they're going to go with the party that's practical, that understands the lifeblood of the world's economy is oil and gas.
That's right.
And the party of law and order and the party of choice and education and secure borders and one of economic freedom.
And these ideas, I think, are extremely popular, especially at this moment because the Democrats have screwed everything up so much.
Yeah, and think about how real they are.
I mean, when you have the threat to personal safety, I mean, there's an article which we just tweeted out about a gang of children in Baltimore and Boston led by an 11-year-old who are going around stealing and aggressively attacking people, pulling knives on people.
It's almost every city now in the country.
That's right.
I mean, if you have a Democratic mayor or a Democratic district attorney, you have a problem.
And it's solvable.
There's also a very aggressive woman district attorney in Jacksonville who has made the city dramatically safer by going back to the basic things that worked for Giuliani and the basic things that worked for Chief Bratton and making sure the criminals understand they're going to be treated as criminals.
You look, compare that to New York, where people are released.
You do a carjacking, you get picked up, you get released, you do a carjacking.
They have people who've been picked up 24, 25 times, and they're still back out on the street doing the same stuff.
By the way, they had a bank robber thanking the Democratic leadership in New York.
He robbed one bank, got caught, was let out with no bell law, robbed another, got caught again.
He robbed five straight banks.
They kept letting him out to rob another bank.
And then he was saying he was so grateful to the government for letting him out to keep trying.
Not a very good bank robber.
Well, this may be the same guy who at one point turned to a policeman and said, how do I get to stay in?
An institutionalist, as they say in Shawshank Redemption, right?
Just amazing.
But I do think, and I really appreciated your note over the weekend.
I mean, I think that if we can get Republicans to think like American majority, not just a Republican majority, if we can get them, you know, and in the little paper I wrote, which is also available on audio, and which will be a podcast later on this week, you know, I cite Reagan.
I cite Margaret Thatcher.
I mean, these were examples.
And, of course, what we did with the contract, these were people who had a real strategy.
They knew what they were doing.
Thatcher so destroyed socialism, and this is why I wrote my book on defeating big government socialism.
She so destroyed socialism in Great Britain that no openly left-wing leader has won the prime ministership in 40 years.
Now, that would have been unthinkable before her.
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All right, Newt Gingrich is with us, former Speaker of the House.
He's got his new book coming out in July, Defeating Big Government Socialism, Saving America's Future.
It's on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, soon to be in bookstores everywhere.
If you want a first edition copy, you can get it now.
How do you explain the rise of this new Democratic Party and the climate alarmist religious cult, new Green Dealism?
How do you explain?
Because Democrats always hid who they really were, and now they're being very open about it.
And now we see the absolute abject failure of these policies.
There's a great article in 1991 by Heilbronner, who was a Marxist economic historian, brilliant historian, but a Marxist.
And Heilbronner wrote in this article, with the Soviet Union having collapsed, we have no good explanation for why we need government control.
And we need a new cause, and that cause should be the environment.
And he just lays it all out.
And I have two really deep beliefs about what's going on.
The one is that it's about power, that this is a fight between the academic class and the productive class, and the academic class has been winning it, and they want the power to spend your money.
They don't want to go out and make it themselves.
They just want to take yours.
And they love being in charge.
And I carry it all the way back to John Kenneth Gilbra as a very young man being put in charge of wage and price controls and having the power to say to very successful business people, I, the bureaucrat, will tell you what to do.
And he loved it.
He thought it was great.
He thought he was smart.
They were dumb.
He read books.
They golfed.
And that sort of fit his worldview.
The second thing is, when God disappears, something has to fill the vacuum.
Humans cannot exist with unpure rationality.
And what came to fill the vacuum was a combination of wokeness and a climate religion.
And this is, I think you've heard me say this before, but Theodore White first describes this way back in 1972 in his making the president in 1972 when he says George McGovern could not negotiate with the left because liberal ideology had become a liberal theology.
That's such a good way of putting it.
That's why I call it the climate alarmist religious cult.
Only because of the constraints of time.
How do people get a hold of this and really get to understand it?
Just go to Gingrich 360 or go to AmericanMajorityProject.com.
And it'll be in your book coming out in a couple of weeks, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, Defeating Big Government Socialism, Saving America's Future.
Mr. Speaker, this is an opportunity of historic proportions for Republicans.
We can reconfigure the electorate for the next hundred years, but they have to deliver.
And it's got to be ideas-based and principles-based.
And I think it's probably the best work you've ever done.
Great job, sir.
Take a bow.
Thanks.
Take care.
800-941-Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Your calls on the other side.
straight ahead.
Ladies and gentlemen,
we'd like to take a second to hear the immortal Bob Grant's thoughts about the world today.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, it's sick and it's getting sicker.
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With all the talk of insurrection and all the ignoring of the 574 riots in the summer of 2020, dozens of Americans dead, even inside the Chop Chaz Summer of Love spaghetti potluck dinner zone.
Remember Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr.
killed there.
You know, you have the police, please.
We're just trying to offer some type of medical assistance.
Let us in.
And meanwhile, people dying inside the Summer of Love zone.
No words at all.
No condemnation at all.
Now you've got these groups going after churches and Supreme Court justices and giving out their home addresses and doxing them.
It's unbelievable.
Here are the pro-abortion protesters outside the Supreme Court justices' homes.
Tonight, we expect they'll be in front of Sam Alito's home.
They're in front of Kavanaugh's home over the weekend, John Roberts' home over the weekend.
Stay illegal!
Keep abortion!
Stay illegal!
Notify, Rome!
Women's Rise!
Give me right!
Women's right!
Give me right!
Women's right!
Women's wars back!
Women!
Rest back!
Women!
I mean, what's really amazing to me about this, and Democrats are thinking this is going to be the issue.
It won't matter about a 40-year high of inflation, a supply chain crisis, a border disaster, 40-year high of inflation, record high gas prices.
None of this is going to matter because it's all going to be about abortion.
Pretty soon, what people are going to realize is that abortion is going to be legal probably in all 50 states.
Some states will have restrictions, and there'll be very liberal states like New Jersey allows abortion up until the moment of birth requiring.
Out loud, there are a number of those states.
So at some point, people are going to realize, oh, you mean it's still legal?
Oh, okay.
Never mind.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, Michael is in Iowa.
Michael, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, how are you today?
I'm good, sir.
How are you today?
What's going on?
Well, I wanted to call about this Supreme Court issue in the Roe v.
Wade.
You know, if the Democrats really cared about abortion, when Ruth Vader Ginsburg told them that the Roe decision was on shaky legal ground, why didn't the Democrats, or demon rats, as I like to call them, codify it when they had Obama in the White House and a filibuster-proof and veto-proof majority?
Well, it's a good question.
All they care about is fundraising off abortion and beating Republicans over the head with the issue with their rabid base.
Their unwillingness to condemn, just like in the summer of 2020, Kamala Harris's tweet to support the bail fund for people involved in the rioting, the mysterious reluctance and resistance to condemn the riots in the summer of 2020 because Democrats didn't want to take on their radical base.
It's the same thing with this issue here.
So it's okay to dock Supreme Court justices in their homes and let these protesters send out addresses of these justices.
You know how dangerous that situation is?
Now, we condemn the riots in 2020, the summer of 2020.
We condemn what happened on January 6th.
That can't happen.
We've got to protect our institutions, and we've got to protect our elected officials, and we've got to protect all justices.
This transcends all politics, and it just shows the selective moral outrage of the left.
We've been consistent on these things, and I would never in my life give out the home address of anybody that was on the Supreme Court or, frankly, any elected official or any member of government.
I don't think I'd give out anybody's home address.
I think it's unethical and extraordinarily dangerous.
And I'd stay away from doing so.
But, you know, Jen Saki asked about it, and her answer was, well, people have the right to protest.
Oh, okay.
So we'll send, well, what if somebody sent people over to her house?
I would never do that, nor should anybody do that, or anybody else.
But it is what it is.
Hypocrisy reigns all things in the media mob and, of course, the Democratic Party.
Anyway, you make a good point, my friend.
God bless you.
800-941-Sean.
Steve is in California.
Steve, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
What's happening?
Yeah, it's good to hear from you.
Anyway, my point is just the blatant hypocrisy of these Democratic zealots who want abortion on demand no matter how far along the woman is.
But almost to a person, if you ask them do they support the death penalty, they don't at all.
They're just a bunch of bloodthirsty ghouls.
And where's the moral outrage here?
I mean, how do we get this far as a country where you can walk into an abortion clinic, nine months pregnant, and have your pregnancy terminated?
It doesn't make any sense.
Anybody I know in my life that says to me that they're pro-choice, I ask, well, what are the restrictions you would put on it?
Almost, it's almost unanimous.
Nobody likes it.
It's sort of like the Bill Clinton line, legal but rare, but also early.
In other words, first trimester, where issues involving the viability are, at least in the minds of the people that are not pro-life, it's certainly a scientific issue.
We haven't gotten to the point where I think 12 weeks that we can make the definitive case that the child is viable.
And again, those are Joe Biden's word.
He called it a child.
But, you know, for me, and I have some conservatives that disagree with my exceptions here.
I'm pro-life, but I make exceptions for rape and incest and the life of the mother.
Some people disagree with that.
I understand the logic behind their thinking.
It's just where I stand, and I've explained it many times in the past.
Yeah, well, at some point, you've got to draw a line.
Somebody that's eight months pregnant, you should not have a right to an abortion at that point, in my opinion.
At that point, it's a viable child.
It can live outside the womb on its own very easily.
And at what point do we put a value on that individual human life?
Again, Democrats don't.
That's for sure.
Well, as conservatives, we believe in natural law, that rights come from God, not from government, right?
That we're all endowed by our Creator, you know, with life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
And if you believe that, any law structured on that foundation would protect the most innocent among us, in my view.
Anyway, Steve, appreciate the call, buddy.
800-941-Sean Dino in New Joise.
What's up, Dino?
How are you?
Good, Sean.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, Sark.
Glad you call.
Happy Monday.
Is there such a thing as a happy Monday?
I don't know.
Happy Monday.
Nowadays, with the wrong direction the country's going, I don't know if there's happy days.
I'll tell you this.
These are rough times for a lot of people, and it's going to get rougher.
I'm very concerned about the direction we're headed, how deep this recession is going to get, how I'm just worried on every level.
People are dying right now.
I mean, the poor, the middle class, people, fixed incomes, they're getting clobbered.
And I hate to see it.
And they get clobbered by the policies of these climate alarmist religious cult members.
And the damage they're doing is almost irreparable harm at this point.
Totally agree with that, Sir.
Totally.
Listen, my basic question to you today is: I know you have a lot of lawyers and constitutional scholars on your show on a regular basis.
I was just curious because once people get elected into office, whether it's presidency or senators, congressmen, whatever they might be, they basically take an oath, which is legally, to my understanding, is like almost like a contractual agreement to uphold the law, uphold the Constitution, and to look out for the benefit of their constituents, whether they voted for him or they didn't vote for him.
They take an oath.
You're 100% correct?
So what I'm saying is, for example, you take the Biden administration at this point in time.
They're not upholding laws of, you know, like the borders right now.
So technically, that's a breach of their oaths, correct?
Correct.
Okay, so that basically is a mean of breach of contract towards the constituents.
No, it's even worse than that.
Not only are they not enforcing the law, which falls under the oath that they've sworn to, right?
That they sworn to uphold the laws of the land, the Constitution.
But it goes a step further.
They're actually aiding and abetting the law breaking and facilitating the law breaking.
I can tell you this, the way I like to describe this is if you, Dino, go down to the border and you help somebody and assist them in crossing into this country illegally, and let's say you put them in your car and you start transporting them to the state of their choice, you will be in violation of the law, aiding and abetting law breaking, and you'd be arrested and probably convicted on human trafficking.
Understand that.
So my basic question, follow-up to that is, since it's a contractual agreement, the people of the United States, whether it's a class law actions lawsuit or a civil lawsuit, sue the government for not doing their oath of agreement that they basically said they were going to do for the people.
Well, there's remedy, the remedy of an election, remedy of impeachment.
And right now, impeachment's not an option.
I don't think it's the best option anyway.
I think the best option is to win at the ballot box, and that happens in November.
And that's why I keep arguing we're at an inflection point, tipping point, whatever you want, whatever cliche you want to use as it relates to an important moment in American history and things really hang in the balance.
I think it's right now.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, is there a legal ramification that could be done by the people towards the government?
Yeah, listen, there are lawsuits left and right that are filed, but these things take years usually.
And that's why governors like Abbott and DeSantis in Arizona, people are so frustrated, Governor Ducey.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
800-941, they're frustrated.
They're trying to get into, they're trying to get the courts to uphold the law, which, again, they should easily do.
Shouldn't be this difficult.
All right, quick break, right back to our phones.
800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Right back to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Becky's in Florida.
Becky, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, I'm a longtime listener, first time caller.
I'm going to kind of switch gears a little bit.
I really just want to give a woman's perspective on this abortion issue.
I really feel like men's voices are not heard enough when it comes to this issue.
You know, it's my body, my choice, and the women have to say that.
But if there were no men, there would be no babies.
And so I really feel like a child is equally a man's and equally a woman's, and he should have a say whether or not his child lives or dies.
And I don't understand if the situation with the woman is she wants to abort her baby, but the father of the child wants the baby, then why not give birth to the baby and give it to the father?
Because I'm playing devil's advocate here.
They all make the argument, well, you're not carrying that baby in your body till term.
But you're obviously you've taken simple biology and you're correct.
You need a male and a female to create a child.
Yes, that's basic and fundamental.
And you can't say that one is more important than the other.
There is no baby without the male and the female, period.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And as that being a part of the male, should the male, and it's interesting that this has never really been pressed in the courts.
And there are fathers' rights groups out there fighting for these things.
They've never really made it too far that I can recall.
But it's certainly a part of it.
Look, It's the worst possible option.
Let me put it that way.
Look, if you're going to engage in sexual behavior, let's take all judgment out of this for a second.
You're going to make choices as an adult and even maybe as a young person that probably is not ready physically, emotionally, spiritually for that type of relationship.
But you're going to make that decision.
If you make the decision, there's enough knowledge, enough information out there that we know how to prevent pregnancy.
And if you're going to engage in adult activities like this and you don't want the consequences of a child or a pregnancy to ensue, then take the steps necessary to prevent it.
Now, I'm not speaking from a religious perspective or a moral perspective.
I am saying from a practical standpoint, the least acceptable option has to be when there's a pregnancy and now you have something that is alive and growing inside of a woman.
And there are better options to prevent that from happening.
But that's a whole different discussion for a whole different day.
But it's a provocative point you bring up that I'm sure drives liberals crazy.
Anyway, 800-941-SHAWN if you want to be a part of the program.
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