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So, Ohio today has a pretty contentious primary that's been going on in the Republican Party for who will represent the Republicans running for Senate.
And it should have a dramatic impact.
I think in Ohio, whoever wins this nomination will likely be the next senator from the great state of Ohio.
There's some controversy.
We did not weigh in on this in large part because I didn't know the candidates that well.
I thought there were a number of good ones, so it's not that I felt passionately one way or the other.
And we should know results sometime tonight when we're on the air.
The bigger question is, we're now six months away from what I would call an inflection point for the country.
You know, we use the cliché a tipping point election.
If ever there's been one, this is definitely it.
We have now a Democratic Party.
I mean, they've now looking at what happened with this leak and assuming that Roe v.
Wade would be overturned would be the only issue they ever want to talk about.
That and hating Donald Trump will be their strategy for all of 2022.
It's not going to be, they're not going to run on the economy, a 40-year inflation high.
Then they're not going to run on the high cost of everything we buy in every store.
They're not going to run on their energy policies, which has resulted in the highest gas prices in the history of this country.
They're not going to run on their border policies.
They can't run on COVID.
I mean, for crying out loud, they ran out of tests and they have never embraced therapeutics like monoclonal antibodies and made them readily available as they should have.
They're not going to run on Afghanistan.
They can't do that because that was an unmitigated disaster.
They have really fallen short in terms of providing Ukraine the ability to win the war against Russia.
Now they've given some assistance, as has other NATO countries, as has other Western European countries.
Certainly not enough that could have won the war immediately.
We now see that they're struggling still in Ukraine just to get the weaponry so they can fend off the Russians and just hold them back.
But if he gave them enough of the right weaponry, this thing would be over.
They can win this war and you can stop Putin right there dead in his tracks.
So the only thing they have left is to run on Roe v.
Wade.
This is, we're going to go back to the days, and I'll play Robert Bork again, you know, back alley abortions.
And you already see pictures of women holding up coat hangers.
And none of which is true because all this decision, if it does come down this way, and John Roberts, the Chief Justice, has confirmed that this is a real leak, and that's a big problem.
It would only result in the states, the people and the states and state representatives and state legislators making the decision.
And then that was the argument conservatives and constitutionalists have been making the whole time.
And that being that this is bad law from the get-go.
But now, with Republicans having a significant lead over the Democrats on every major issue, right track, wrong track, Joe Biden is underwater on every issue.
Every single poll that has come out recently has been a record low for him, different numbers, usually in the low 40s, you know, high 30s, Quinnipiac, 33%.
And a generic ballot shows the Republicans in the lead.
The question is, what impact will this if Roe is overturned, Casey is overturned, what impact would that have on the 2022 midterms?
Anyway, our pollsters are with us to discuss it.
John McLaughlin with McLaughlin and Associates, and Matt Towery is with us, syndicated columnists, insider advantage pollster, two of the best in the country.
Welcome both of you back to the show.
Thank you.
Matt, we'll start with you.
What impact, if any, do you see that this has on the midterm election, assuming that it's overturned?
Oh, well, I don't think you can underestimate the impact.
I mean, you summed it up perfectly, Sean.
This is going to be basically a myopic obsession for the Democrats, particularly to get their turnout up, because they had a problem in terms of motivation, given the president's court polling numbers and the general problems that they're facing in D.C.
Now, all of a sudden, this leak comes.
They have a chance to energize their base.
They have a chance to talk about all types of legislative alternatives that they can run to.
And suddenly you have a sleepy electorate that wasn't excited.
And suddenly they can possibly be brought out to vote in droves.
Now, this is no happenstance.
We all know that.
And I mean, it's very easy to see within 30 minutes to an hour, you having broken this first on television last night.
There were people flocking out to the Supreme Court with all these ready-made signs.
So this is no shock at all.
It's going to have an impact.
It also will have an impact, by the way, in some of the prime areas on the Republican side, because you have some of them, not enough time, but you have some states where abortion politics comes into play.
You have more moderate candidates and more pro-life candidates, and that could change some of the dynamics of those races as well.
Let me get your take, John McLaughlin.
Well, I think the Democrats are probably overreaching here because, I mean, look, they want to change the narrative because Joe Biden, we released a survey Friday where his job approval has been the same for four months.
From January, he had a 41% approval rating.
He had a 57% disapproval.
And that's a model based on the 2020 election turnout where the Democrats are at 37%, Republicans at 36%, and 51% told us that they voted for Biden in the last election.
So Biden's, you know, for the Democrats and the liberal media, this is like Narcan for an addict.
So temporarily, you know, it might solve a little of their problems to change the narrative.
But on the other hand, it's not going to solve their problems.
So in that same national survey, 50% of all voters call themselves pro-life.
50% call themselves pro-choice.
But it's just going to go back to the state.
So like in New York State, where I'm from, which allows abortion thanks to Andrew Cuomo, up until the baby is born, they allow abortions.
That's not going to change unless we change the legislature.
California signs.
And by the way, I doubt there'd be restrictions for people that say wanted that late-term abortion.
I mean, you know, everybody forgets the Northam cut.
You know, first we're going to deliver the baby and we'll make sure the baby's comfortable and then the mother and the doctor will talk and then they'll decide whether or not to kill the baby.
At that point, it is a human being, a human life.
I mean, that's how extreme some on the left have gotten.
Yes.
And I will tell you in that survey we published, we have a question.
Do you agree or disagree with the following statement?
Every human being represents a life that is precious and has value.
93% of all voters agreed.
71% strongly agreed.
Only 4% disagreed.
I believe the Democrats are opening a can of worms for themselves because they're willing to change the subject on anything.
But if they want to debate about late-term abortion, about parental consent again, which isn't allowed a lot of places, and about taxpayer funding of abortion, let alone reasonable restrictions when that baby can live outside the womb, they're opening up a can of worms in a lot of states that they expect to win.
And you know what?
It doesn't change the narrative that Joe Biden and the Democrats have failed the country because in the same survey from Friday, the Republicans are beating them in the generic ballot for Congress 48 to 43.
And Donald Trump is beating Joe Biden 50 to 43.
So the Democrats are just desperate to change the narrative.
But most Americans, 64% say the country's on the wrong track.
And 67% think the economy is getting worse, not better.
So it's not going to lower the price of gas, lower the price of food, stop the war in Ukraine, or stop the crisis at the border.
The Democrats got a big problem.
So, Matt, generally speaking, what I have seen, and there was a period of time where people that described themselves as pro-choice outnumbered people that were pro-life, maybe anywhere between five to seven points.
That number somehow narrowed over the years.
What's the latest numbers that you've seen in terms of where do people stand on the issue of legalized abortion?
Now, there are nuances to that.
You have the extreme like Governor Northampton in Virginia and people like Andrew Cuomo in New York, and then Gavin Newsome out in California, and those people that believe in late-term abortions.
At that point, the baby is viable, could live outside the mother's womb perfectly well, and yet they seem to have a heartless, heartless attitude towards it, not even considering viability at that point.
But putting that aside, where do most Americans, where do you think they come down on this issue?
And with this decision, if it comes out this way, it only means the states will decide.
Their elected representatives in their states will decide.
In other words, the people will have more say on this than they ever had before.
They will.
And John is correct.
I mean, those are basically the same numbers we've seen.
The country's basically split.
And you are correct.
There has been a trend in the direction of the pro-life identification.
And moreover, you took the words out of my mouth, and that is the individual states are going to have the opportunity to make this decision.
But then you have to look at the polling in individual states.
You know, if you have some of these southern states, red states, I mean, it's relatively strong, depending upon demographics of the various states.
You get into some of the purple states, so to speak.
Again, that 50-50 comes into play.
And of course, obviously you get to the blue states, and it's still overwhelmingly pro-choice.
So from a state-by-state basis, I think it falls in line as one would expect.
I look at this, Sean, and I agree with everything that John just said.
We just finished the poll for real clear politics.
Basically, our numbers are the same as John's.
We normally always are.
And he does a great job.
But what I see this as is the Democrats trying to not just change the narrative, and they do that through the media that they control.
I see it as them using it as a way to turn votes out.
And to John's point, this cuts both ways because now, let me give you a great example.
Let me use a state like Georgia where Herschel Walker is running.
There is a substantial portion of the African-American vote, particularly older African-American vote in the state of Georgia, that is pro-life, very pro-life.
Walker has a very tough stand when it comes to abortion.
He is completely pro-life.
That you have Warnock he's running against.
He's already said basically that Roe v.
Wade needs to be preserved no matter what it takes.
Now you have an opportunity to see someone like Herschel Walker, who's already attracting African-American vote because he's a superstar in that state, and they love, everyone loves him for his athletics, not necessarily everybody for his politics.
He has an opportunity to take 15, even 20% of that African-American vote away from the Democrats as they push the accelerator down on the abortion issue.
That could give him the U.S. Senate race in Georgia alone.
So they better be careful what they do because they could be hitting that gas puddle and driving the wrong direction.
That's an interesting analysis.
All right, quick break more with our pollsters.
John McLaughlin, Matt Towery, at the bottom of the half hour.
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What impact will this potential decision of the Supreme Court as it relates to Roe and Casey have on the election?
Matt Towery, Insider Advantage, John McLaughlin, McLaughlin and Associates are with us.
And I think it's also probably fair to point out that I'm sure states like New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, for example, John McLaughlin, they're not going to have any prohibition about interstate travel if people want to get abortions.
They're not going to care if you come from Alabama or Oklahoma or Mississippi if you don't like the laws there.
And if you want a late-term abortion, that will be available still to everybody too, wouldn't it be?
No, you're right.
And the pro-abortion lobby will actually fund it and probably go to all sorts of corporations to get it funded.
So, you know, so the great thing that you've talked about is, and as, you know, Matt mentioned, public opinion in the United States, certainly back in the 90s, was maybe three to two pro-abortion versus pro-life or pro-choice versus pro-life.
And now it's dead even.
It's about 50-50.
And I read you that number where most Americans really believe there's value in human life overwhelmingly.
So this debate could actually backfire on the Democrats because now you're going to have states where Georgia has a law that has gotten more reasonable exceptions.
And you've got other states that are trying to do that.
And the radicalism of the left, because first of all, they're willing to break the law.
That's amazing about the Supreme Court.
This was not just leaked.
This was a crime because, you know, there are prohibitions about secret information where the justices are deliberating.
They haven't made their final decision.
The opinions, the final opinions aren't written.
And for somebody to take that document and leak it, that's a crime.
Well, let's see President Biden follow up on trying to find out who that lawbreaker was.
I mean, he's got a czar of disinformation and all that kind of stuff now.
So why don't they try to find out who's trying to bust up the Supreme Court institution and any kind of working relationship among the justices over this issue?
So, you know, there's a radical left in this country where basically the means justify any of their ends that they have in mind.
And we've got to stop it.
It's just wrong.
Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts.
This is very interesting.
We'll see the impact.
I know Democrats would like to never talk about any of the other issues, but they will be paramount in people's minds, especially the economy, inflation at a 40-year high, highest gas prices we've ever paid.
We're paying more for everything we buy at every store we go to and everything that has been a disaster from the borders to COVID to Afghanistan and everything in between.
Those issues won't go away if even if they want them to.
Thank you, John McLaughlin.
Thank you, Matt Towery.
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By the way, another Joe Biden mess-ups, cognitive screw-up.
What a shocker.
Listen to this one.
They're at the Biden Institute.
So we call that using a point of personal privilege.
And there have not been many senators from Delaware.
It's a small state.
Matter of fact, there's never been one.
There's never been a senator from Delaware.
Okay, Joey.
Anyway, so obviously all these politicians I mentioned earlier, Elizabeth Warren, Roe v.
Wade will be on the ballot.
It's always on the ballot.
Democrats have demagogued abortion for decades.
That's all they do.
You know, you go back and you listen to Ted Kennedy.
We played it earlier.
You know, it's Robert Borks, America's going to be an America with back alley abortions, et cetera, et cetera.
This is what they say.
They don't want to tell you the truth.
Anyway, Elizabeth Warren, we got to now get rid of the filibuster.
The next thing they'll be saying is they want to pack the courts.
You got Blumenthal and Schumer make abortion an issue in the midterms because they can't run on anything else.
They've got nothing else.
And they'll demagogue it and they'll lie about it.
And what nobody wants to recognize is from the beginning and the get-go, it's been bad law.
In other words, a right not enumerated in our Constitution.
They just made out a whole cloth, the right to privacy.
And yet, state legislatures and the people of the states now are empowered and emboldened to put in place the laws that they believe are appropriate regarding this issue.
It's really that simple.
But of course, they'll demagogue everything.
Anyway, let's go to John in Arizona.
John, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Well, thank you.
I just want to make one quick point.
We know that the left and the far left, they're killers and they don't care about human life when it comes to abortion.
But the one thing that I think we should be focusing on is where the Republicans are at.
If there's a Republican, and especially when the pressure gets turned up, if there's a Republican that is debating whether the right to life is sacred, they need to get the heck out of our party.
And the GOP needs to vet every single person.
And if there's one candidate or two or 10 or 50, it doesn't matter, that is debating the right of life, they need to kick them out.
And I guess my question to you is how can we pressure these Republicans to stay on track, stay on board, and protect the right to life?
Because we know the Democrats aren't going to do it, but I do worry about Republicans caving as Mitch McConnell likes to do so often.
Well, we always worry about Republicans caving.
And, you know, you have these primaries going on.
I've weighed in on some of them.
When I know a candidate really well and really believe in them and believe that they're, you know, Reagan America first, make America great again, save America conservatives, then I'll tell you about it.
I've not weighed in, for example, on today's primary in Ohio.
I see good things in all the different candidates.
I know it became controversial with the president's endorsement, but that's neither here nor there.
The people of Ohio will decide it, and as it should be.
But I will tell you, Republicans have every issue going for them.
And if they follow through on what they said they were going to do to me, meaning the promises to the American people, make another contract with America.
And if they keep those promises, and if those promises are rooted in Make America Great Again, Donald Trump America First policies, I don't think they're going to have a hard time winning.
You know, Democrats' only hope at this point is that Roe and Casey are overturned.
They demagogue it.
They might energize their base enough to get more of their supporters out that are pretty depressed because, let's be honest, Biden's presidency has been depressing and they don't have a single thing to point to that they can say is successful.
Now, on the other end of this is you've got, you might think, well, this might help the Democrats.
I don't think the Democrats have helped themselves when you have Northam out there saying, well, well, I could tell you exactly what will happen.
First, the baby will be born and we'll take care of the baby and then the doctor and the mother will have a conversation and then they'll decide.
At that point, we're talking about infanticide.
So maybe you can understand somebody taking a position.
I have friends that say that they are, quote, pro-choice.
And most of them, you know, are kind of, they find it, how do I say this the right way?
They're almost into Bill Clinton, legal, rare, and early.
And by early, you can define it anywhere between two, one month and three months, first trimester maximum.
And that's it.
They don't support late-term abortions because we now know medical science, if we're going to follow the science, has got us to the point where I believe it's like 21 weeks of these kids are viable to live outside the womb.
It's getting, it's, in other words, science has brought us to the point where if for whatever reason a child is either born early, a premature, or if a child, there's a necessary emergency where the child has to is born through a C-section, and again, premature, they're able to save these kids' lives.
And at that point, it is a life, and you really can't deny that.
And most Americans find it repugnant that, you know, up to the last week before your due date, you should be able to have an abortion if you decide, you know what, I changed my mind on this thing.
I'm not going to do that.
And that happens.
And that's where the Democrats are, especially in these radical blue states.
Those laws are not going to change in those states.
And that would be, so there really won't be any distinction or difference for people.
The only thing you're going to hear is, you know, people demagogue it, lie about it, and then just go off into other topics, which they're already doing.
This probably means that interstate travel, same-sex relationships, they're going to be on the chopping block after Roe.
No, it's not.
That's not going to happen.
Yeah, it's not going to happen.
And anyway, but I think, look, Joe can't run from his record.
The Democrats can't run from their radicalism on abortion.
There is a difference to me.
There is a very distinct difference to me.
And I'm pro-life.
I make exceptions for rape, incest, and the mother's life.
Some people really don't like those exceptions.
I accept that not everybody's going to agree with my position.
And I just think that with contraception so readily available, I would prefer people be more responsible and disciplined in the decisions that they're making.
If you're making an adult decision, you need to handle it like an adult.
There are, you know, surefire ways to prevent pregnancy if you want to.
Anyway, Pretty.
Can you jump in real quick?
Yeah.
Well, I just want to the last thing that I'll say is I think when it comes to the midterm election, the one thing that people are going to vote for, whether they're conservative, Democrat, or independent, because we all know that independents run the races, they're going to look at their financial situation.
And when they see that they're paying $6 for diesel and in some states, $6 for unleaded, that's what they're going to vote on.
So it's just really important for these candidates to stay on board.
And I would encourage you to check out Carrie Lake of Arizona for governor.
We sure need her.
She's a good one.
I appreciate your recommendation.
We're watching the Senate race a little more closely, but we'll be digging down into some of these governors' races as time goes on.
We appreciate the call.
Trey is in South Carolina.
Trey, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Glad to call.
Yes, sir.
I'm good.
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I kind of take issue with you that this election is important.
I just think the Republicans will do a sweep, but I just don't think it's going to make a difference.
They've proven that they get in power and they just don't do anything.
I just don't think that unless we get rid of the leadership, McCarthy, McConnell, I don't think things are going to change.
Well, look, I think this is where I have been pushing when I've been interviewing these people.
Now, McConnell won't come on my show.
McCarthy did come on my show.
He's not been on since those tapes were released.
And apparently their plan is to come forward with an America First agenda and sign their name to that agenda.
And at that point, I think that locks them in.
But whether or not they're going to do that, I don't know.
Whether or not McConnell will have the Senate do it, I don't know.
I don't disagree with you that we need new leadership, especially in the Senate and areas in the House as well.
Absolutely, I agree with you.
But it's really up to, you know, we've got to, we just can't show up on Election Day and say, okay, we're going to vote for you.
Now go do your job and expect them to do it.
If we don't put our pressure on them to do the right thing when it matters, then that's really on us because they're supposed to represent our views and we're supposed to hold them accountable for their decisions and their promises.
Right.
I just wish McCarthy would have a weekly press conference where he points out everything Biden is doing to us this week.
You know, the Truth Commission that came out, there's not been a peep out of him or McConnell about that.
Well, we'll know in good time.
We'll know before Election Day.
That I can promise you.
Thank you, Trey.
Appreciate it.
By the way, you have a great senator there, Tim Scott, who's going to win, I think, pretty easily.
All right, quick break.
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Amy in Georgia.
Amy, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
I know it's a little off the topic with the hot news today, but I wanted to mention the disinformation board that they're forming.
It's just such a scary thing, especially since my husband's been a soldier for 25 years.
He's fought overseas for, you know, our right to free speech and other people's right to free speech.
And he still could be going over to Europe with all that's going on and with Joe Biden as president.
But it's just scary knowing that he's fighting for something that's so at risk right now.
And it's just, it's really just, you know, it tears at my heart.
I got it.
Look, I got to tell you something.
If you look at the suffering that Democratic policies are putting on every American, I mean, when you talk about an inflation tax, for example, of $5,200, according to Bloomberg, anywhere from there to $5,700 per household in America, that is dramatically altering the lifestyle of a vast majority of Americans.
This is a real problem.
Every single problem that we are now facing as a country could have been prevented and can easily be solved.
The answer is in conservative principles.
I don't sit here and list how simple conservatism is just to hear myself talk.
We believe in liberty.
We believe in freedom.
We believe in capitalism.
We believe in our Constitution.
We believe in low taxes, less bureaucratic red tape so businesses can thrive.
We believe in law and order and safety and security so people can pursue happiness.
Not that complicated.
The school systems are a wreck because of the Democrats' unholy alliance with teachers' unions.
I believe in school choice.
I believe we need people that revere our Constitution on the bench and won't legislate from the bench.
I believe in secure borders and legal immigration.
I believe in energy independence.
I believe in free and fair trade and peace through strength.
And I believe we need a president that knows that today happens to be Tuesday.
And it's really not that more complicated.
I believe in the First Amendment.
I believe in the Second Amendment.
I believe in our Constitution, all the amendments.
And if Republicans would just hold steadfast to those principles, it doesn't get too complicated from there, does it?
I don't have a hard time.
These decisions aren't that weighty to me.
Now, I know there are other commentators that tend to, you know, they make calculations.
How is this going to go over with this demographic?
How will this decision go over with that demographic?
I just decided a long time ago that I'm going to be myself.
And the person that I am is a Reagan, America First, Make America Great Again, Save America conservative.
That's where I stand now.
And I'm looking for candidates that will support those positions and fight for those positions.
I'm finding some, but, you know, I'm finding others that are just, you know, swamp creatures that want to be called congressman or senator, governor, whatever their position happens to be.
But all of this is in play.
All of this is on the ballot.
You know, all these Democrats lecturing us all that this will be on the ballot.
I'm like, yeah, no kidding.
Everything's always on the ballot.
Their failure is also on the ballot.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
God bless you.
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