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Fighting Liberal Aggression - May 2nd, Hour 2
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So we've done a lot of research here.
I mean, the idea that we're going to have a ministry of truth, I mean, it's so bizarre, isn't it?
Or disinformation, what do they call it?
Disinformation governance board is beyond ridiculous tier.
And anyway, so then you look at the person that has been tapped by the Department of Homeland Security, Secretary Mayorkis.
Now, first of all, what does this have to do in any way, shape, manner, or form with anything regarding our homeland security?
You would think that maybe securing the border might be a top priority, especially knowing that as many as 40 that they know of plus people on the terror watch list have made it across or have had contact with Border Patrol agents.
How many people had no contact?
We have real threats, and they're not parents at school board meetings upset about CRT or gender identity classes being taught to their kindergartners or first graders or whatever grade it happens to be.
So this is not the role of the government.
It's not the job of the government.
And the person that has been tapped to run this whole thing is a woman by the name of Nina Jankowicz.
And it turns out we now know a lot more about her.
At one point, for example, she said, quote, now I hope that the rest of the tech industry stops placing ads for masks and worse on articles and information about coronavirus.
Why?
Because she disagrees with them.
Jankowicz claimed ahead of the 2016 presidential election that a Donald Trump presidency would embolden ISIS.
Donald Trump destroyed ISIS.
That happened under Biden and Obama.
Who's going to, you know, if we're going to have a ministry of truth, who's going to be monitoring the minister?
In reality, the Islamic State, as we all know, was taken out under Trump.
She doubled down on Democratic disinformation, claiming that Trump had close ties to Russia, claiming in a February tweet that Putin's invasion of Ukraine would have been so much worse under the former president.
The only problem is he didn't do it during the four years of Donald Trump.
August 2020 tweet, she praised a podcast by discrediting the Trump dossier author Christopher Steele.
She defended Steele's, saying he provides some great historical context about the evolution of disinformation.
No, he was the biggest purveyor of disinformation.
That dirty Russian disinformation dossier has been debunked.
And then she, of course, you know, went on board with this is Russia disinformation with the Hunter Biden laptop.
Then, of course, she's got this whole other weird side of her that sings, you know, super callo fragilistic espialadocious.
Listen.
Information laundering is really quite ferocious.
It's when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or a mainstream output.
So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.
It's how you hide a little idea.
It's how you hide a little idle lie.
It's how you hide a little hide a little lie when you're in the middle of the day.
Where's the left?
Where are liberals, free speech liberals in this?
Here's Jankowicz saying the government shouldn't be allowed to censor information, really?
Because apparently that's exactly what they're going to end up doing.
Imagine that, you know, with President Trump right now calling all of these news organizations that have inconvenient for him stories that they're getting out there that he's calling fake news and now lashing out at platforms.
I would never want to see our executive branch have that sort of power.
I think we're seeing cooperation ramp up on a number of levels.
So I will be completely honest and say that my program at the Wilson Center is partially funded by Facebook.
Oh, okay.
Well, you might as well get that out of the way.
Anyway, Mayorkis was on defense all weekend on the Sunday shows.
Here's him saying that disinformation board is a safeguard for freedom of speech.
Does he really think we're that stupid?
Then he goes on to say disinformation board won't be spying on Americans.
Then how are you going to find out if it's disinformation?
What it's got to be publicly posted.
And then defending Nina Jankowitz, who herself has spread tons of disinformation.
Would you be okay if Donald Trump were president, if he created this disinformation governance board, or if it is in place and he wins again in 2024, that he's in charge of such a thing?
I believe that this working group that gathers together, gathers together best practices, makes sure that our work is coordinated, consistent with those best practices, that we're safeguarding the right of free speech, that we're safeguarding civil liberties, I think is an extraordinarily important endeavor.
The board, this working group, internal working group, will draw from best practices and communicate those best practices to the operators because the board does not have operational authority.
Will American citizens be monitored?
No.
Guarantee that.
So what we do, we in the Department of Homeland Security don't monitor American citizens.
You don't, but will this board change that?
No, no, no.
The board does not have any operational authority or capability.
Republicans are criticizing your decision, the administration's decision to choose Nina Jankowicz to lead this disinformation board.
They say she is not somebody who is neutral.
Your response?
Eminently qualified, a renowned expert in the field of disinformation.
Absolutely so.
Absolutely false.
As she herself went after Hunter Biden and the laptop, it's pretty unbelievable.
Here's the best answer, though, Mayorkis gave, and that's he won't answer the question straight up of whether or not the steel dossier was misinformation.
Was the steel dossier disinformation?
It's not for me to opine.
Not for me.
Let Jankowicz handle that.
She's in charge.
Anyway, the ACLJ, American Center for Law and Justice now, has filed FOIA requests demanding the Biden administration over their actions that now come forward requesting to expose exactly what this is about and other involvement in terms of the government censoring a speech.
There are other stories out there today that should be absolutely chilling.
We'll get to here in a second.
But Jordan Seculo joins us now from the ACLJ.
Sir, how are you?
I'm good.
Thanks, Sean.
Let's get your reaction to what we just played with Mayorkas and the history of this woman Jankowicz.
Yeah, so Mayorkis is just making a spin.
There is no need for the Department of Homeland Security to create this governance board for mis and disinformation to monitor what the cartels are doing and to monitor anything that Russia or another foreign adversary is doing.
They just use two examples to try to throw people off and the scent of what we all know this is, the Ministry of Truth.
They are going to provide the content providers, the Facebooks of the world, who paid for people like Nina to get to this position to be a disinformation fellow at the Wilson Center.
They are going to, again, tell the content providers and the people who provide a place for people to speak exactly what to censor.
So they are going to be in the business of censoring Americans.
And this should be an affront, not just to Republicans or conservatives, but to everyone because our free speech right, our free speech right in the Constitution, you can argue that every other right we have flows from that ability to speak freely.
Well, I mean, this is the whole point.
So what is the ACLJ looking for?
Yes, so what you're looking for in the FOIA, we're doing two things, Sean.
So in the FOIA, we're specifically looking for who else was involved in the Biden administration, who was involved at the White House, what members of Congress, you know, we got a lot of members of Congress that love this disinformation word and misinformation word and love to skew conservatives as supposedly spewing that.
So we want to know what members of Congress were involved with creating this governance board.
We're going to look at what other members of DHS, but also how did they define disinformation?
Because that is, again, very subjective when you were talking about political opinions and other opinions that people have on matters.
So how are you going to define it?
That's part one, Sean.
We want to get the information about how this even came to existence and who was pushing DHS to create it.
Second, I can tell you right now, we're looking at what other legal options could be available to get this shut down because it chills.
Just by its existence, it could have this chilling effect on Americans' ability to speak freely.
You can understand that just because you know this board exists and is out there, you might not share your opinion or view anymore.
And if you make a decision like that, the courts have been very weary about this.
So they do not like restrictions on speech.
It is our first and fundamental right.
Well, let's dig deeper into it because Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of speech.
So no law is going to be passed here.
The president's job is to faithfully execute the laws of this land, but yet he only picks and chooses the laws that he wants to enforce.
For example, down at the border, he's violating what is the law of the land as he allows illegal entry into the country every single day.
Then we look at this Ministry of Truth, and she herself is nothing but a Democratic propagandist that spread the Russia collusion lie, the Trump campaign hoax, if you will.
She pushed the hoax that the laptop was Russian disinformation.
I'd argue those are two of the most egregious pieces of disinformation in the last five years.
Exactly.
And, you know, we've seen this time and time again at the ACLJ, Sean, the weaponization of government agencies against Americans when they start to organize.
We saw it with the IRS.
We saw a be on the lookout list.
That's why we've got all these terms in our FOIA request that we're looking for to wonder if they've used terms like conservative and right and Trump and words like that in the formation of this board.
She's also made it clear back in a 2020 interview who she's targeting, who she thinks are the bad offenders here.
It's us, Sean.
She said the vast majority of this comes from the right with their highly, this is her quote, highly emotional rhetoric.
I want to be clear to everybody that's listening, Sean, highly emotional rhetoric is constitutionally protected speech.
She goes on to say, you know, there's this awful but lawful speech.
Again, if it's lawful, it's constitutionally protected, whether she thinks it's awful or not.
More with Jordan Seculo, Executive Director, ACLJ.
And as we talk about this Ministry of Truth, the Joe Biden and the Department of Homeland Security want to set up.
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More with Jordan Sekulow, Executive Director of the American Center for Law and Justice.
You see, I argue that equal justice and application of our laws in America is dead.
I mean, look at the case in point.
Tea Party groups, conservative groups were targeted by Lois Lerner, using the power and the weight and the intimidation of the IRS to go after Americans.
And it seems every time that it's a conservative, I'm sorry, that it's a liberal under fire, nothing ever happens.
Doesn't matter that the Inspector General Horowitz comes up with referrals for people lying to Congress, but the only ones that had pre-dawn raids, guns drawn, and CNN fake news cameras were conservatives.
So I just fight back.
How do you fight back?
Because it just keeps happening again and again as we still wait for the Durham report.
You know what I think, Sean, is the biggest issue is that when President Trump came in and his idea to drain the swamp, that is still very much a huge issue that we've got to be focused on as conservatives long term.
We cannot, we will not succeed in stopping this happening.
We can play the game where one pops up and we fight the IRS, then this pops up and we will fight the DHS.
But until we drain the swamp and accomplish what President Trump sought out to do, we are going to be playing this game, Sean.
And it's a very high-stakes game because it involves our constitutional rights, our right to organize, a right to speak, a right to have an opinion on politics.
And we are targeted.
The conservatives, Republicans, the viewpoint, the parents, we are the ones being targeted by all of these campaigns.
We've got to go to the bottom of the park.
Think about this, though, for a minute.
All right.
So Biden brings in all of these TikToker stars, these influencers, and pretty much they're instructed to blame soaring gas prices and inflation on Russia.
We know that's a lie because we had soaring gas prices at a 40-year inflation high long before Vladimir Putin ever invaded Ukraine.
They want to push the term Putin's price hike and the mob compliant.
They do exactly what the Democratic Party wants.
Maorkis claims there's no crisis at our southern border.
Well, then we have to defy what our own eyes show us.
That's all disinformation.
Biden is free to call Peter Deuce a stupid son of a bitch.
Is that disinformation, I would argue?
Yes, it is, because he happens to be bright, smart, articulate, and just a thorn in their side.
So they attack him.
Or Saki maintaining Biden is not involved with Hunter's business dealings, foreign partners, when we have pictures of such.
Or Biden calling George's law Jim Crow 2.0 or Jim Crow of the 21st century and says that the Justice Department has taken a look.
Well, that would be weaponizing the Justice Department or Biden linking Republicans with George Wallace, whom the president himself had praised, not Republicans.
Yeah, I think, Sean, what we see here is time and time again examples where they're using hyper-partisan rhetoric.
And here's the deal.
There used to be organizations out there that actually defended speech universally, speech that was speech that people didn't like, speech that was controversial.
They don't exist anymore.
The ACLU, for instance, it's not a real group anymore for civil liberties.
So it's going to take us.
It's actually going to take the right to protect this speech for everyone.
You know, when we say this, again, people should have the ability to have tough rhetoric, tough opinions, but it should be all of us.
It can't be one-sided.
And we cannot rely on the government to protect our free speech rights right now.
We cannot rely on some other interest groups who in the past protected a speech that may not have been popular with the federal government.
It's up to us now.
It's why groups like ACLJ exist.
It's a unique time because we are all under attack for having our opinions and because we happen to use, you know, colorful rhetoric.
Sir, thank you for being with us.
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I have now kept my record alive, and that is not once in my career have I ever attended a White House correspondence dinner.
I'm pretty, Linda, I'm proud of that record.
What do you think?
I think that you should be proud of that record.
You know, and here's the thing.
I'm not going to play like a phony because I know they don't like me, and I don't particularly like them.
So why show up and act like, you know, oh.
So not only that, I mean, would you put your pants on?
I mean, really, you're just going to wear jeans anyway.
I mean, actually, maybe you should go just to wear the jeans and piss everybody.
I work very, very hard never to wear that thing called a tuxedo.
I work almost as hard to never wear a suit, but I, you know, there are occasions when that happens.
I can't think of the last time that I had suit pants on during TV.
I really can't.
No, I mean, you've always been in jeans very few times.
Even when, you know, I mean, on your most dressiest of moments, if you could change and put on jeans after the fact and like, you know, I've been on, you know, huge events with you where you've said to me, if I wear a sport coat and a button down and I wear my jeans, is that going to be okay?
Can I do that?
Will they let me do that?
Yeah, Sean, I'll talk to them about it.
Well, I've done some interviews with President Trump.
I have kept my jeans on.
I didn't care.
Yeah, but he doesn't like that, does he?
Because he's always.
No, he really does.
He's into, like, he really thinks that you should dress up.
He's never said a word.
We might have talked about it once, but he's never commented about it, never said anything about it.
I don't think he really is.
He's thinking about it mentally.
He's telling you with his eyes how much he doesn't like you, Levi's.
Listen, Steve Bannon worked in the White House.
I don't think Steve Bannon is known making a fashion statement every day.
I kind of like the fact that Steve is himself.
He's an original.
No comment.
I'm not going to have to.
No, I mean, the bottom line is he dresses the way he wants.
Why do we have to put on that stew?
Whoever came up with the idea of a tie, whoever came up with the idea of a tuxedo.
Okay, I'm going to have to give you a little crap here, a little Adam Schiff, because not for nothing if I have to wear four-inch heels.
Which listen, I like wearing heels.
So let me just for all of you.
Nobody said you had to wear them.
But I'm just saying you're choosing to wear them.
We're talking about inventions based on attire.
I'm saying that a tie is not nearly as complicated, painful, or you have to really endure as when you're wearing a Louboutin.
I'm just saying.
I'm just going to put it out there.
I'm sure the audience agrees with me.
Okay, but you don't have to.
In real truth, you don't have to do it.
I mean, the reality is now that there are certain obligations in life that we have to fulfill.
And for the sake of others, usually not myself, I will play the game.
I'll do it out of respect for them because I don't want to embarrass them.
But as far as what I think, I don't care at all.
Listen, I love wearing millions of others.
A nice high heel with a nice dress.
We're going out to a wedding or a nice dinner or whatever.
I will get through the night and it's fine.
And I'll wear sneakers the next day.
I never understood why they needed to take the Eminem out of her high heels and put her in Adidas.
As much as I love my gel tops, I'm okay with wearing a high heel for a little while.
But the conversation we're having right now is ties were invented.
They're stupid.
They stink.
And I'm just saying, on a scale of who has it harder, I'm just saying a high heel is a harder thing to wear.
I'll be honest.
I've never understood, and I've asked you in the past, why do you bother getting dressed up for radio every day?
Nobody sees you.
I don't anymore.
Oh, you still kind of do.
You do.
Not really.
I mean, you know, not like I used to.
You know, I mean, it's so different now.
You know, the office isn't as full as it used to be.
And we used to have a lot of corporate executives in.
You know what I mean?
We used to have a lot of meetings.
And it was, I feel, listen, I'm old school.
Okay, I went through those same meetings and I often went in with a sweatshirt or a t-shirt.
But you're short Annette.
And I have to do it every day.
And my sneakers or whatever I'm wearing.
I'm just saying, they're going to listen.
You could walk in whenever they think you're a trend set.
I just don't care.
You know what?
I love sweatpants and I like jeans and I like t-shirts.
I care a lot.
That's why I wear dresses and high heels.
All right, there you go.
Zion is in Maine.
Zion, how are you?
I'm good.
I just wanted to talk about this new disinformation board.
Doesn't this sound so Orlean to you?
Yes, it's scary.
By the way, if there should be any monitoring of anybody, it should be we, the people, monitoring them.
But the problem is there's something called bleach bit.
There are hammers.
There are devices, SIM cards removed.
There's all these little tricks that Democrats have that, in fact, prevent them from ever getting exposed.
It's amazing that if Republicans did these things, they probably would be put in jail for the rest of their life.
I agree.
It's just, and that TikTok you played on your show earlier.
I mean, this is the people you have in government, and they can't even keep their border closed.
How do they run a disinformation agency?
This is ridiculous.
How is this related in any way?
Just like the climate change initiative at the Department of Homeland Security.
Meanwhile, we've got record numbers of illegal immigrants without background checks entering the country, processed into the country, free transportation to the place of their choice, preferential treatment.
And I'm like, how does this keep us safe?
And the person running it is one of the most guilty people in the country of disinformation.
You can't even make this up.
Zion, thank you.
Joe in Virginia, what's up, Joe?
How are you?
It's all, son.
What's going on?
I'm a construction worker.
I've been in the roofing business for 36 years.
It's a rough business, man.
I fell off a roof almost three stories, busted up my arm pretty bad, dislocated it, broke the radial head, busted up my teeth.
It was ugly.
I can imagine.
Did you have a fall?
I had a commercial business more so than residential, but I had a similar experience on a job we were doing with a family member, and I come off a three-story metal roof headfirst, but I come off trying to stop my friend who had failed.
And, of course, I thought I could stop him, and it didn't work as well for me.
He did okay.
He didn't get hurt, so everything turned out good.
How about you?
Did you get hurt?
I just stoked up a little.
Really?
You got lucky the night.
I mean, I took, you know, I had a straight-claw hammer, and I took it and I flung it at the dormer, but as you're going down, there's something called gravity that prevented me from actually, when I started to swing, I probably could have hit it.
By the time the swing came around to the dormer, I was like five feet past it.
Too late.
Now I'm going down headfirst.
I had a friend.
We were doing a job for my nephew, and I don't do residential work, but this was a weekend deal, and we got most of the work done, and on the backside on Saturday, put a new metal on a three-story house.
And it had a lower roof underneath it, but to make a long story short, the next morning we went back to finish up.
My friend went over the top of the edge on the new roof to blow it off.
And the sea started back up.
His feet come out from under him.
Well, I was standing at the chimney, and I saw him fall, so I dived headfirst.
But when I grabbed him, like you said, gravity took over, and I lost.
You know what the weirdest thing?
Did you have the same experience as me?
It's like it's sort of like time stops, and like every second of the fall is like in slow motion.
Did you feel that?
I remember everything.
I remember the screw hitting my leg and cutting down.
I remember coming over the edge of the last roof.
Then I saw a tree.
Then I saw the blue sky.
Then I saw the ground.
Like, everything went gray and yellow for a couple of seconds.
So when my elbow hit the ground, it was like the bottom half of my arm was disconnected from the top half of my arm.
And I went, ah, ah, and I took it, and I jammed it, and I got it back in the socket.
Now, when I got to the emergency room, the doctor said, you did what?
He goes, do you know how lucky you are?
He basically said it was like a one in a million shot that it went in.
I'll tell you, that's an amazing story because, you know, most people would pass out from the pain.
Listen, I was just, I thought I'd lose my arm.
I mean, and I just was in a state of panic at that point, and I just took it, and like, I don't know what.
It just went right back in the socket, but believe me, I thought I might lose my arm that day.
You know, I didn't know as much about medicine as I do now.
Anyway, what else is on your mind today?
Well, in our business, I don't know if people understand exactly what happened.
Everybody knows what happened that follows you, but people in the real world don't seem to have a clue.
But when Biden assigned that executive order in January, it took office to shut down these pipelines and to go against fossil fuel.
All the major roofing contractors in the United States, they know what was coming.
Yeah.
They took all the cash.
They took all of the money.
They took everything they had.
They bought up every inch of inventory there was to be had.
And this started about, you know, the serious problem we had now that we don't have insulation.
Weather was run on all the material that was in stock.
So it was gone.
And then this deal with China, everything we do is made out of crude oil.
All the materials we use.
Everything.
Insulation, EPDM, shingles.
We can't get screws.
We can't get plates.
It's just across the board.
It's been crazy.
And it's been that way now for two years.
Look, I'm telling you what's happening.
New home construction has slowed dramatically with the higher price interest rates.
It's going to get worse because they're going to raise them a lot more.
It's going to hurt people like you and people in all the trades are going to get hurt.
And now it's going to raise unemployment dramatically.
And it sort of like has a ripple effect.
And, you know, so much of this was preventable.
If we would have stuck with the Trump economic policies, they spent too much money, number one.
Number two, when you look at them, I got to tell you, they can't be any dumber when it comes to energy, the lifeblood of the world's economy.
And that's causing everything to cost more.
So now with the record high inflation, they're going to try and fix it.
And as they fix it, they're going to screw it up even more.
That's my prediction.
And, you know, I was actually looking.
I'm not the biggest fan of Warren Buffett, but I don't think he's, he's obviously a smart man.
I'll just give the credit where it's due, Berkshire, what was it, Hathaway.
And he's the CEO of Berkshire, Berkshire Hathaway.
And anyway, so he told his shareholders who asked him his advice on what to invest in amid this inflation that we have and probable recession we're having.
And he said, the best thing you can do is to be exceptionally good at something.
And I thought that was pretty good advice.
He said, if you're the best doctor in town, if you're the best lawyer in town, if you're the best whatever in town, people are going to give you some of what they produce in exchange for what you deliver.
Whatever abilities you have can't be taken away from you.
They can't actually be inflated away from you.
So the best investment by far is anything that develops yourself is not taxed at all.
And I just thought that was very good advice.
And, you know, the sad part is, you know, I have to probably add to that.
People might have to work more just to make ends meet because the average household is facing anywhere between $5,200 and $5,700 more in Biden's inflation tax.
So it's not so easy.
Anyway, Joe, God bless you, buddy.
Stay in touch with us.
Let us know how things are going in the trades.
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Bob in Tennessee.
What's up, Bob?
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Thank you.
This question may have already been answered, but in regards to this Ministry of Truth, do you think that's something that could be challenged in court because it just flies in the face of the First Amendment?
Yes, I do.
And I think it's one we could win.
I do.
Well, I hope so because, I mean, this is just, it's like every day you wake up, it's like being in a new episode of the Twilight Zone with these people.
It's Orwellian.
I mean, it's 1984.
It's crazy.
I mean, and then to have the Minister of Truth, the Ministry of Truth run by a person that is one of the biggest disinformers of all, you can't even make up how stupid that is.
Oh, I know.
I mean, I mean, I mean, they lie every time they get on TV.
It's amazing.
Listen, it's my whole life exposing it.
They're going to be busy just, you know, with all the stuff.
All right, Pop.
Thanks, man.
Thanks, buddy.
Ray is in New York.
Ray, we got a minute left in this segment.
It's all yours.
Okay.
I'm wondering about the doomsday clock because when President Trump was in power, they would invent things and would move three minutes closer to midnight.
Putin is threatening war.
You got China on the move.
Iran's close to making another or getting a nuclear weapon.
North Korea is firing rockets like it's the 4th of July, and we have the war in the Ukraine.
And President Biden's being shown around by the Easter bunny.
So I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what's going on.
He's being protected by the Easter bunny.
Don't ask the president questions.
He can't answer them.
Yeah.
They won't let me answer questions or anything.
I'm not going to get my ice cream.
Oh, man.
I've never lived through times like this.
I mean, everywhere I go, I mean, people ask me, I mean, and they've got genuine fear in their eyes about what the future holds.
And they're like, is he really that bad?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not making it up.
I keep playing it, playing Joe in his own words.
We keep playing the hits, and the hits keep getting worse.
You know, it's funny because, and I've got to run, but people are questioning.
Well, some Democrats now beginning to suggest Joe isn't going to run in 2024.
Joe's not running in 2024.
I don't see it under any circumstances.
I just don't.
All right, 800-941.
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