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What's At Stake - February 23rd, Hour 2
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Mr. O'Reilly, sir, welcome back.
Well, thank you for having me.
You know, that was a good clip you used on TV last night with Trump and the NATO head talking about Russian oil.
And I guess it was, what, three years ago?
That conversation?
It was 2018, Bill.
And it was, and I never do this, or rarely do it.
I ran the full five minutes, and Trump just dressed down the head of NATO about one, the fact that our allied nations are joined.
We're paying the bulk of money to protect them from Russia, and they're making Russia rich again by doing these multi-multi-billion dollar energy deals.
Well, it was a good clip.
I had not seen that clip before, Hannity.
And that's amazing because I see anything.
Every once in a while, I do one thing that impresses O'Reilly.
He's like, you've done good, Hannity.
I'm shocked, but you've done really good.
Well, nobody else had it either.
You're the only one who had it.
And it was very instructive because it shows you the difference between Trump and Biden.
So one president is reactive, and that's Biden.
And then Trump was proactive, a deal maker.
And now I'm going to get in a plug.
You know, we're streaming the Trump O'Reilly History Tour on billoreilly.com up until tomorrow midnight.
And we talk about Putin a lot and about how Trump handled him.
And, you know, there's no accident that this Ukraine intrusion is happening now.
That's not.
And that it happened under Biden and Obama.
Yeah.
I mean, Putin basically stepped aside for trying to destroy world order when Trump was in office because Trump is so unpredictable.
And Putin didn't know what price he would pay, whereas he knew what Biden would do.
Biden would stair-step the sanctions, which is and I'm not saying that's wrong, by the way, because there's another thing here that all the pundits have missed about this whole thing.
So that Biden needs the cooperation of Europe.
And Europe is very, very difficult.
It's like Bush the Elder and Saddam in the First Gulf War.
So you had to get Saddam out of Kuwait.
He invaded the Saar nation just like Putin did.
And we don't know how bad the Russians are going to behave in Ukraine yet.
But Saddam's forces were raping women in there.
They were brutalizing how to get them out.
Well, it took Bush the Elder seven months to get him out, to get Saddam out of Kuwait, because he had to put together all this coalition of Arab nations and this, that, and the other thing.
So I'm not criticizing Biden from stair-stepping the sanctions right now because I know what he's up against with countries like Germany and Italy.
And so we'll see what happens, obviously, going forward.
But there is no accident that Putin sat out those four years while Trump was in office.
You had an interesting Bill O'Reilly message of the day.
The headline is, Putin made a drastic mistake.
He had a funny line in there.
You said it's time to rethink old Vlad Putin, the guy who hunts tigers topless.
And he also rides horses topless.
I mean, I think he thinks he's, you know, back in the macho man days.
I don't know what he is.
Remember Jack Lelaine?
He thinks he's got five.
If you're talking black and white television, Jack Lelaine, we got a big problem.
But here's what I took out of what you were suggesting here.
And I might have a slight disagreement.
I don't think Putin risked anything.
No, he doesn't.
Tell me.
Okay, so if you look at history, all of the people in history throughout, up to starting with Genghis Khan, all of the disruptors of world order have met dismal deaths.
All of them.
And tonight, my talking points memo on billoilly.com is going to talk about Hitler.
Putin basically took the Hitler playbook.
Same thing that Hitler did.
Hitler rose to power by telling the German people, we got hosed in World War I. Everybody's against us.
You're all victims.
We're going to restore the ground.
But by saying this, and I'm not trying to interrupt you, I just want clarification.
By saying that, are you suggesting that his territorial ambitions is to rebuild the former Soviet Union?
I do think his territorial ambitions includes all of Ukraine and the Baltic states.
And Belarus, I think, is included in that territorial ambition as well.
He got Belarus.
So look, if you look at what Hitler did with Austria and with Czechoslovakia and then Poland, which ignited World War II, it's the same thing that Putin's doing.
All right, so Putin's telling his people, look, we got hosed.
I'm going to restore the grandeur of the Soviet Union like there was grandeur.
Come on.
And we're going to be, you know, we're going to make Russia great again.
And we're going to do it because the West is weak and we're the race that is noble and enlightened.
So that's what he's selling.
And there's no difference in strategy between what old Adolph did and what old Bladder did.
But let me tell you where I would see a distinction.
If Putin limited his territorial ambitions, I don't think it ends the same way.
I think it ends with him winning Ukraine.
No, no, no.
And as you suggest, Belarus, then probably the politics.
But you're suggesting it goes much further.
No, it doesn't even have to.
He's now a pariah.
He's destroyed all credibility that even after this ends, whatever the ending may be, nobody's going to do business with Putin again.
All right.
All the European countries are going to try to get energy elsewhere.
And you know who the big peacemaker is going to be in this?
You ready for the big peacemaker, Hannah?
You heard it here on the Hannity Radio.
I'm listening.
China.
In about a week, you're going to see China say, you know, we ought to work this out.
Let's work this out.
And we're going to be the peacemakers.
We're going to bring everybody together.
Way to you see.
That's what's going to happen.
But even after that.
All right, let's part waves right here.
I think what's going to end up happening, we've seen the crackdown in Hong Kong.
We've seen the absolute mistreatment of the Uyghur minority community, forced labor camps.
We've watched COVID-19 unleashed on the world.
And we've watched the territorial ambitions.
It's been unfolding for quite a long period of time now.
As China continually talks about reunification in Taiwan and flying fighter jets over Taiwan airspace repeatedly, I think what's going to happen is China will give the wink and nod and okay to Putin for his territorial ambitions, and he's going to expect that Qi will expect reciprocity on Putin's end and he will get it.
Maybe so, but that's down the lane a little bit.
Not really.
China wants to be the world power, wants to replace the United States as the big superpower.
So you're going to see China kind of, well, you know, and it's phony.
I'm not saying it's genuine.
It's just going to be they're going to try to put themselves up as this noble nation that wants everything to calm down when the truth is that both Putin and Xi want to destroy world order.
So I'm reading a column by John Cass.
You know Cass, right?
I think of the animal show.
All right.
So he writes out of Chicago, and he's a bright guy.
He's a smart guy.
But he's throwing up in the column.
Well, America shouldn't care about this.
Why do we care about what's going on in Putin's backyard?
This is crazy.
And I'm saying to myself, look, it's a different world than it was just 10 years ago.
If there's no world order, there's going to be a huge worldwide depression.
Not a recession, a depression.
And that's going to affect every single American.
You can't have people run around invading countries without being held to account.
You can't do that anymore because we're all tied in together.
All right, so, Bill, let me push it.
There's a poll out today: 76% of the American people do not want America anywhere near this, and I count myself among the 76%.
You wouldn't let Putin just go in and take a training.
But there's a way to defeat Putin, and there's a way to defeat China without firing a shot in either case.
We fight them with troops.
No, I know you're not.
But hear me out.
I am saying that America, and Joe won't do it.
We'll need another president to do this.
He must immediately go straight towards America's rich natural resources of energy.
Natural gas.
That would be oil.
That would be coal.
We must immediately become the intermediary and supply our Western European and NATO allies of their energy needs.
It's the lifeblood of the world's economy.
And we can beat them financially.
We've done it once.
We could do it again.
And that will be the game changer.
I agree.
We're on the same page there.
So the green deal stuff has to stop because I don't know whether you noticed or not, but China and Russia signed a big coal deal where Russia is going to send China hundreds of thousands of tons of coal for the brand new coal plants China's building.
So what good does it do to destroy the American fossil fuel industry if China and Russia are doing all the coal stuff?
All right?
That's where you start.
And, you know, you're right.
I mean, Biden, I'm not, I'm not, look, politicizing this Putin move is just what Putin wants.
You've got to understand that.
He wants division in America, in Europe.
He wants it politicized.
I don't think that's the right way to go.
I don't think Biden has done anything wrong in this regard.
Did he do something wrong in Afghanistan?
Absolutely.
Did that embolden Putin and she?
Let me tell you why you're wrong.
You're dead wrong.
Because by him being so beholden to the climate change new Green Deal socialist cult and taking the energy independence he inherited.
Let me finish.
America being the net exporter of energy we were.
And now he's begging OPEC and we're importing 230 some-odd million barrels of oil under his watch last year from Russia.
He has now put the entire NATO alliance, every Western European nation and the United States at a decided disadvantage.
And that's what's causing the 40-year inflation.
And that's what has made Russia rich again.
And that has propelled this territorial ambition at this particular point in time.
And has made it happen.
But it's two different issues.
So Biden botched.
You're sounding very Irish now.
You're sounding like all my relatives.
This would be a great pub discussion.
We'd have everybody around us.
All right, quick break.
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You're absolutely right that in the first year in office, Biden did so many things wrong that it made it much easier for Putin and Xi to misbehave.
Exactly right.
But at this point in history, with Biden slapping sanctions on Putin, I don't think we should politicize that.
We should not.
But Bill, there's no, look, even his own, one of his ambassadors say these sanctions don't mean Adam Schiff to us.
I don't believe that.
They don't.
Because here's the problem.
I don't believe that for a second.
Germany and NATO and the U.S. energy and economic policies, Bill, have allowed Vladimir to get rich and powerful again, allowed Russia to get rich and powerful again.
He caused it.
And there's no solution for the next three years unless he backtracks and adopts Trump's economic and energy policies, which we both know he won't do.
Well, I'm not so sure about that because Biden is now put in a place where he has to take action to supply Europe with energy.
Stop right there.
Bill O'Reilly, are you going to make a prediction on this program today?
I'm not making a prediction.
Hang on.
Are you telling me that Joe Biden will reverse course and start mass producing the energy that would be necessary to push back Putin financially and to help out our allies in NATO and Western Europe?
Are you predicting that?
I'm going to make that prediction like I made the China prediction.
I'm not going to do that, but I'm going to say that it is likely he will take some of the regulations off the fossil fuel industry and ramp up production.
That's likely unless he does it full bore, Bill, it's meaningless.
Maybe, but you don't think they made a deal with Germany?
Of course they made a deal.
Germany came out and said, We're going to stop Nordstrom 2 pipeline.
He had to make a deal with him because Putin got on the phone with the new Bill.
When I see him go against the climate alarmist cultists that run his party, I'll say, I'll tip my hat to you, but I don't see it happening.
It's a possibility it will happen if things worsen.
They're bad now, Bill.
Oh, they're terrible now.
And, you know, when he set the stage last night, he goes, Well, you know, it might be a little more pain.
We're looking at $5 a gallon here, Hannity.
No, Bill, we're looking to seven.
I go six to seven.
All right, listen, I actually like arguing with you more than being nice to you.
So I'm going to be mean to you from now on.
No more cupcake interviews for you, O'Reilly.
That's it.
All right, you come after me, Hannity.
I'm ready for you.
Thanks, Rebecca.
Anyway, Bill O'Reilly, all things, O'Reilly, simpleman at billo'reilly.com.
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I do not see this modern, radical, extreme climate alarmist cult known as the New Green Deal Democratic Socialist Party, doing what would be necessary to ensure that we create stability and world peace, and we're less reliant on the whims of a maniacal dictator in this particular case, Vladimir Putin.
He's a hostile actor.
It's a hostile regime.
We see the events unfolding.
The world collectively yawned in 2014 with Crimea, and everybody still did business with Vladimir Putin, including Joe Biden's 231 million barrels of oil that he imported his first year as president from Russia.
Now we've got a situation where our Western European allies, and of course, our NATO allies, they have no idea what this guy's got planned.
And the problem is, is that we've got ourselves a massive energy problem.
It's not a problem for Putin because Putin is just producing it and making more money and getting richer than anybody could ever imagine.
Now, what would need to be done is immediately lift every moratorium on drilling and energy production.
That's natural gas, oil, coal in this country.
And immediately, this would be the impact.
It'd be very simple, as I've been saying.
We would see high-paying career jobs created in America, very high-paying.
We'd be able to literally become energy independent in a very short period of time.
We'd once again become a net exporter of energy.
It would reduce inflation dramatically.
It's one of the major causes of this 40-year high of inflation we have.
Then we'd be able to provide energy to our NATO allies, Western European allies, and they will no longer be pushed into the arms of Russia and Putin.
And that means Putin will have less money, less trade, and America will be, will save the day once again.
Now, will his territorial ambitions continue?
Yeah, in the short term, absolutely.
But in the long term, he starts running out of money because nobody in terms of the West is going to want to do business with him.
That's the way to defeat Putin.
Do I want one boot on the ground in Ukraine?
No, I see Ukraine as a, frankly, a hostile regime in many ways itself and a corrupt regime also.
It's not about necessarily Ukraine, but it's about, all right, Belarus, it's about the Baltic states, it's about what other territorial ambitions he may have.
But that is the answer, and that is the antidote.
The answer and the antidote now, and frankly, NATO, our Western European allies, our worldwide allies, should start considering in preparation of President Qi's constant reminders that he's going to take over Taiwan and his crackdown in Hong Kong and COVID-19 and the Uyghur oppression and forced labor camps in China.
Maybe we shouldn't have had the Olympics there.
Just a thought, as we had been saying.
It was the lowest watched Olympics ever.
But putting that aside, all these hostilities, flying fighter jets over Taiwan airspace.
Yeah, their economy is not based on oil and gas and energy.
Their economy is based on imports, meaning exports on their side, imports from the rest of the world.
But we should now be sending the message to China.
No, we're going to align together and we're going to stop importing everything from you.
And we're not going to build your economy if you continue these hostile actions.
Now, if notice, in each case, Sean Hannity is not talking about putting a single boot on the ground anywhere.
We can't be the world's police force.
We can't do it.
We're not sending, we're not going to get in a shooting war with Russia or China.
We can't.
It's not good for the world.
But we do need to take steps that will be impactful.
And the most impactful steps that can be taken are financial.
We could destroy Putin's, you know, now he's literally drowning in, you know, what do they call that in the Beverly Hillbillies, Texas tea, all the oil money that he's getting, record prices now that we're setting.
There's a way to do it.
But if you listen to Nancy Pelosi, she thinks that Biden's leadership on Ukraine has just been outstanding.
It's been amazing.
Listen to this delusion.
Ukraine made it even more so because now we're talking about sanctions in the West.
We are very proud of our vice president who made, well, our president whose leadership has been outstanding.
And the message was delivered to the conference by the vice president.
It was well received.
It was unifying.
It was firm in terms of how we would work together for sanctions should there be an invasion of Ukraine.
That Kamala Harris, the comment at the end, when she Kamala Harris said, absolutely, the threat of sanctions will deter Vladimir from his territorial ambitions.
But then at the same time, she was saying, oh, yeah, no, the invasion is inevitable.
How does that make sense?
It's interesting, Jen Saki telling our own Peter Ducey, he'll be on Hannity tonight.
I'd hardly say that Putin is intimidating the United States.
Listen.
The president said before he got here that Putin knows if I'm president of the United States, his days of tyranny and trying to intimidate the United States and those in Eastern Europe are over.
It's two and a half years later.
He is intimidating the United States and those in Eastern Europe.
I'd hardly put it that way.
I would look at it actually from the prism of the United States and President Biden has rallied the world, rallied Europe to stand up against the efforts and the actions of President Putin.
And we've laid out very clearly exactly $4 gas, $5 gas, however, how you guys think it's going to go, something like that.
It's not intimidating.
You asked me if we were intimidated by President Putin, and I think the evidence of that doesn't exist.
Joe calling in more true.
What is Joe Biden going to do?
The one answer that is so obvious and so completely transparent, he'll never do.
I don't see it happening.
Biden then got asked by Peter Doocy later today the question, and he's visibly, I mean, he's like shaken and angry, and like, looks like he has like a toothpick or something in his mouth.
He's just mad.
Listen.
All right.
Well, thank you.
Yes, thank you.
Now, you got to let me know when I'm supposed to stop here.
But Sylvia.
Sorry, Sylvia.
There you are, Sylvia.
How are you, Sylvia?
Do you think you may have underestimated Putin?
No, thank you, thank you.
Did you underestimate Putin?
Yeah.
I think that Putin read Joe Biden and read him exactly as just what you heard there.
A mumbling, bumbling, confused, confounded, cognitive mess of a president.
I doubt he knows today's Wednesday.
Let's say hi to Don in Iowa.
Don, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Thanks for checking in.
I said, how am I going to.
Yeah, throw that away from me.
Throw that away from me.
What's going on, Don?
Drive-through.
I'm in an 18-wheeler.
This is a truck stop.
He said, well, that's the only way we're serving you.
Hey, Don.
It's Sean Hannity.
Where are you now?
What truck stop?
Well, I'd be at a small truck stop in Marshalltown, Iowa.
What'd you order for lunch?
Just a couple of chicken sandwiches, one for now, one for later.
You know what?
You have a microwave in that rig?
Of course I have a microwave.
Yes.
And you have a nice TV set so you can watch Hannity at night, I hope.
I only watch Hannity on my tablet.
I don't carry a TV.
Too tempting to go back to watching sports.
I understand.
Well, anyway, just drive carefully and enjoy your chicken sandwich.
By the way, don't eat it when you're driving.
Take the time to just take a few minutes, eat, relax, take 20 minutes, maybe take a cat nap and then get back out on the road.
Yes, I appreciate it.
I'm not sure if I can do it.
Thanks for what you do every day.
What's on your mind today?
Well, Sean, I called about this whole Ukraine situation because, well, you've been really nailing it as far as the Ukraine situation does not exist if we have our own energy and we're not importing and making Putin rich because we are now paying for the invasion of Ukraine.
Well, I mean, we did make him rich, and this is why I took the time yesterday on this program.
I played it twice yesterday on radio, and I showed the video last night in full, five minutes, Trump just pounding right face to face, no notes, right in the grill of the head of NATO on how idiotic it is.
Number one, that we're paying more than our fair share for NATO.
They're not paying their fair share.
And meanwhile, they're making Russia rich again when the whole purpose of NATO is that we're supposed to be aligned to protect them, Western Europe, from Putin, and yet they're making Putin rich with all these multi-billion dollar energy deals.
It's insanity.
Exactly right.
And Trump was right then, and he's right now.
Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump both knew that you don't feed the bear.
You keep your money at home.
You don't allow them the pipelines that are going to one day be the stranglehold on Europe because once they get that pipeline flowing to Europe and they shut off all the other supplies, they can do whatever they please.
And I think that's what Putin's counting on right now.
I agree with you.
Listen, enjoy your chicken sandwich lunch, and please drive carefully.
And to all the truckers out there, God bless you for what you do.
Every item we buy in every store we go to, we can appreciate your contribution to this supply chain.
It is critical.
It's important.
And it's a hard job you've got.
We really appreciate all you do.
Thank you, Sean.
We all appreciate what you do.
You have a great day, and thanks to Katie and Linda.
I appreciate them.
You bet.
God bless you.
Safe travels.
All right, back to our busy phones.
James in Houston, Texas.
What's up, James?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
My comment kind of goes along with the last guy.
I just want to say you're right on it.
I think that we kind of need to look back at history and see at some of the blunders Biden has made.
For instance, taking people out of Ukraine and closing the embassy is actually kind of opening the door to Putin.
Kingdoms and monarchs used to exchange hostages, family members, court members, to avoid conflict.
So when he takes Americans out of Ukraine, it's basically, it's literally taking flesh out of the game.
It's literally taking flesh out of the game that could deter Russia from taking action.
I will tell you, nobody wants to get this right, and I don't know why, because it's not that complicated.
And the Trump tape, I think, reinforced my views that he was right all along on all of this.
This is a problem wholly caused by Joe Biden, just like inflation caused by Joe Biden.
Listen, I'll argue, every single problem we've had since he's become president has all been preventable, and we can fix every problem.
You know, his open borders policies, abandoning stay in Mexico, abandoning building the wall, bringing back process and release, his energy policies have been catastrophic to the economy, contributing largely to this 40-year high of inflation.
Same with his economic policies.
All of this preventable.
If he would have kept the economic energy policies of Trump, I don't think we would be seeing the high price of oil we're seeing today.
And I don't think Vladimir would be as rich as he is now, which then factors in financially, you know, whether or not he can achieve his territorial ambitions.
By giving him a waiver to the Nord Stream 2 pipeline while simultaneously firing Americans working on the Keystone XL pipeline, it just is it is just a symptom of how bad it is.
Sean, it's even further than that.
They put a moratorium on importing ammunition from Russia.
So while we're shutting down American oil production, we're ramping up Russian oil production, but we're reducing the amount of ammunition and weaponry available to American citizens.
It's like from every single direction, they're trying to weaken this country and to put a boot on the inex of Americans.
So maybe in some future time when like they try to institute maybe, I don't know, maybe like a one world government, like what these globalists keep trying to do, that we won't be in power or able to defend ourselves.
And I think that the Republicans need to get in gear and they need to start talking about this as a reason for impeachment.
They need to start writing up articles and say, you know, this is count one for impeachment.
He did it in Afghanistan.
It will go nowhere until the next election.
Not upholding his oath to the Constitution, picking and choosing what laws he wishes to enforce and those he wishes to ignore and then aiding and abetting in lawbreaking.
I promise you would have gotten Donald Trump impeached.
Look, this is why this next election is critical.
I can't even really fathom.
I do not see any scenario at all under which he will change gears and go back to the Trump policies that worked.
I don't think it's in him.
I don't think his party will let him.
And I don't even think he knows today is Wednesday.
That's how bad things are in my head, unfortunately.
I wish I was wrong.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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