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Jan. 5, 2022 - Sean Hannity Show
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New York's Racial Risk Factor - January 5th, Hour 3
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All right, News Roundup, Information Overload Hour, Sean Hannity Show.
I mentioned on Monday and on this program and on TV, New York State's Department of Health and their new health policies, which are beyond divisive and destructive, but
But their new guidelines are rationing scarce, life-saving, uh these oral antiviral medications, monoclonal antibody infusions and shots, uh the ones that have been proven the most effective therapeutics, according to every doctor we talk to.
Um, and by the way, they are instructing providers now to consider race and ethnicity and give preference to those who are black, indigenous, and people of color.
Now, you would think, well, that's racist.
Why don't we give it to the people that need it the most and to the people that are sickest or whatever it happens to be?
Um, whatever happened to judge people by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin, and does it really matter if somebody's sick, they're sick.
Uh I don't think we should be factoring in race in any way.
And by the way, it's not the only example.
You have public school district in in Michigan now offering a 21-day equity challenge, including white privilege checklists, and culminating with a call to join Black Lives Matter.
The group, the you know, what do we want dead cops?
Why don't we want them now?
Uh, these health policies in New York, are they racist?
Anyway, joining us competitive enterprise institute, Dr. Joel Zimberg.
He had an op-ed in the New York Post decrying New York State's new racial risk factor guidelines.
He's a medical doctor, health policy expert, uh, an old friend of mine.
I've known him many years, great guy, Ken Blackwell.
Uh he's a former mayor of Cincinnati and the Ohio State Treasurer, Ohio Secretary of State.
Uh we welcome him back to the program.
Ken, let's start with you.
Um first the policies in New York, your thoughts.
Hi, son.
It's good to be with you.
Happy New Year.
Look at these folks are determined to divide us.
They play the politics of the division.
You know, what has made this country great is our adherence to that Latin phrase, equal plus unum from the mini one.
Uh Martin Luther King said back in the mid-60s.
He said, we have a choice to make as a nation.
We can choose chaos or we can choose community.
And these folks who are dividing us on the basis of race and ethnicity have chosen chaos and conflict.
Uh and it's in a direct uh hit uh collision hit uh first collision course with those of us who are trying to build community and recognize the human dignity of others.
Look, you're absolutely right in your opening remarks.
Uh you should in fact make a determination on the distribution of these medicines and these vaccines based on the the most uh exposed folks based on uh whether or not they can have contracted the disease, whether they have underlying uh or pre-existing conditions or combidities, not on the basis of their ethnicity or race, but on the basis of need and our ability to help people of need regardless of race and ethnicity.
But these guys, they don't care, son.
They are in fact hell bent on creating a chaotic division in our country so that it it it collapse.
It collapses.
And let me ask you this, Ken, straight up.
Is that racism to you?
I d to make it base that distribution on race, it's racism.
You know, the the fact of the matter is this when you come to think about it, you know, they they say get in alliance uh in allegiance and uh in coalition with Black Lives Matter.
This is an organization whose leadership uh happened to be uh self-proclaimed Marxist.
There's something that's unique about Marxists all across the globe.
They try to destroy the family and run God and faith out of the public square.
They see the family as the incubator of liberty, therefore you destroy it and you depend you you build dependency on government.
And when you have dependency on government, the administrative state is in charge.
Secondly, they in fact try to drive God and faith out of the public square because they they don't want you to believe that our fundamental human rights are gifts from God.
They in fact want you to believe that there are grants from government that they control.
This is a political force.
It is in fact a strategy to divide, conquer, and manage us.
Let me bring in Dr. Joel Zimberg.
You know, Dr. Zimberg, I don't play doctor on radio and TV, and I've been very clear about that.
I tell people to research everything that they possibly can as it relates to vaccines, COVID 19, uh monoclonal antibodies, these new antivirals, take into account their unique medical history, their current condition, talk to their doctor and doctors, and then make that decision with with the people that went to medical school like you did for four years, uh, did a residency and an internship and actually practice medicine.
Um but if I was a doctor, and I have many friends that are, if I was, I wouldn't care who you were.
My my Hippocratic oath would mean something to me, and that is to do no harm, and I would treat every patient the same, and you don't see skin color when you see a fellow human being that that's not well in front of you.
I'm I is is that old fashioned way of thinking?
It's old it's the old fashioned way of thinking, uh, it's the correct way of thinking.
Well, uh so you you read this and you wrote this hot-bed in the New York Post about this, you know, the this new preferential treatment for minorities.
What is your take?
Well, look at you know, this is from New York City and New York State, and they've got this guidance that prioritizes who should get the two new oral antiviral drugs and who should be uh getting the single uh monoclonal antibody that appears to be effective against Omicron because all three of these drugs are in short supply.
Uh and you know, it's most of the guidance is not objectionable.
It says you have to consider whether patients are immunocompromised, their age, their vaccine status, and a number of risk factors, things like underlying medical conditions that would predispose them to severe illness.
The problem with the state's guidance though is that they then go on to say that non-white race or Hispanic Latino ethnicity should be considered a risk factor, as long-standing health and social inequities have contributed to an increased risk of severe illness and death from COVID 19.
And that's just not the case.
You know, once you have been diagnosed with COVID 19, race is not an independent predictor or risk factor for severe disease.
They've just decided to throw this in there.
Now, I would say I would say this.
Now, if there are particular areas of a of a state or a city where the government feels that they want to be proactive in encouraging people to think about, and I believe in in freedom and I believe in medical privacy and doctor-patient confidentiality, again, probably old-fashioned views.
Um, but if say there was particular areas, not I'm not talking about racial demographics, but areas of a state or a city that they wanted to convince that this is a good idea, I wouldn't have a problem with them going out and and trying to make their case if they feel that strongly about it.
Uh but when it comes to medicine, it should be colorblind in my view, Doctor.
No, I absolutely I mean the problem, what they have done is they've created a situation where people who are In all relevant ways equal.
They're, you know, they're similar age, they have the same number of underlying medical conditions, they are or not vaccinated, etc.
All the relevant factors are equal, except that now you have a situation where the black person or the Hispanic person gets preference.
Or even worse, you may end up diverting the medication to a minority patient away from a white patient who would benefit more.
And you know, that's just immoral.
Uh and and it's actually illegal.
It violates equal protection.
Well, I think this will lose in court eventually.
You know, the sad thing to me, and I'll ask both of you the same question, and Ken I'll throw it at you first, is it is pretty unconscionable to me that we're at this point in the virus, you know, I will shut this virus down.
Now Joe Biden is saying there's no federal solution.
We're two years in and we ran out of tests when we needed it the most before the holidays, and Joe rejected a plan in October to produce 732 million tests a month in the lead up to the holidays, anticipating that you know, with get togethers and then Christmas and New Year's and Hanukkah that people were more likely to be exposed to whatever variant was prominent at the time.
We didn't see this coming.
Well, they had a plan and and they rejected it.
Um and he's the same guy that said it was a travesty when Donald Trump was president.
But we ran out of testing.
Somehow we ran out of monoclonal antibodies when there was never a shortage.
He never even mentioned it until his vaccine mandate speech.
And then we were also learning that we have these new antivirals, and there's no effort to mass produce them and warp speed them into the marketplace when every doctor that I've spoken to speaks highly of it.
I don't know, ask your own doctor, but Ken Blackwell, that to me is a dereliction of duty.
It is political malfeasance without question, Sean.
You know, it it's Joe Biden had a growing economy.
He had people that were working, he had families that were realizing a better life, and he decided that he would destroy anything that had been initiated by the president.
So we now have a contracting economy.
Uh we, in fact, have you know shortages on our grocery shelves and shortages of important medicine.
This guy has practiced, you know, uh political malfeasance and should be held uh uh accountable.
And so it is the same clown car that in fact left our folks over in Afghanistan, the same folks who are trying to create not only a nation without borders, but voters without borders, are now in fact wringing their hands, crying crocodile tears, and saying, what are we to do by the shortage of this important medicine?
We in fact need to stand up as Americans and say we're gonna hold you to account.
You in fact plague politics with good sound medicine and and and production.
All right, quick break.
with dr. Joel Zimberg and Ken Blackwell then your calls 800-941-SEAN All right, as we continue with Dr. Joel Zimberg and Ken Blackwell are with us.
You know, Doctor, at this stage, now in a third year of COVID, first case was December 21st, uh 2019.
So leading into 2020, the travel ban went into effect ten days later.
Now I'm now my question is two years into this, how is it possible that we don't have enough tests available?
How is it possible?
We've had monoclonals for 18 months that we run out of them.
How is it possible that they're not mass producing these antivirals?
And I have a follow-up on antivirals.
Every doctor I've spoken to is very hopeful about them.
Are you?
Look, I and others have been writing for months that these oral antivirals would be a tremendous Boon to uh treating COVID and you know ending the pandemic.
Uh, but there was no real sense of urgency in the Biden administration to get them approved.
It took months uh after both Merck and Pfizer released their data showing that these were effective treatments.
They've only just been recently approved.
And and Joe Biden, you know, when he was asked in his news conference, why don't we have these tests?
His answer was, well, no one could have predicted that we were gonna have a variant that might be more transmissible.
Except that every public health expert was predicting there'd be new variants, and they could be more transmissible.
I mean, he said this in the midst of this Delta surge, and the problem with Delta was it was more transmissible than earlier Vernon.
So how could he not know that another one might be around the corner?
I mean, you know, i it it's a ridiculous explanation and ridiculous actions in in not pushing forward these uh medications the way the Trump administration pushed forward vaccines.
And then the Trump administration in operation warp speed uh undertook a strategy that I was in the administration at the Council of Economic Advisors, and we published a paper talking about how you needed public-private partnerships.
And part of what they did in Warp Street was just that.
They provided money, they asked the companies to produce the medications even before they were approved, and you haven't had any of that with information.
And then they produce and they provided a safety net so that the companies wouldn't go bankrupt uh after being asked to step up like that.
They they had financial protections and guarantees in place.
You know, we should we should now warp speed testing, warp speed monoclons, warp speed antivirals.
Ken, last 30 seconds are yours.
Hey, this is again an administration, a clown car that actually hates capital.
They hate individual liberty.
Aristotle summed it up best.
There's a tension between the organized power of the state and individual liberty.
More muscular the state, the less individual liberty.
These guys want a muscular state.
They are status, they must be stopped.
Treasury Douglas said it best.
Those who are whooped easiest or whoop most often, we must stand up and fight back.
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Lenny is in the great cold Freezing state of Minnesota.
How are you, Lenny?
Glad you called.
Very good, sir.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, I just uh want to say uh long time listener, first time caller, ex Air Force, and uh just want to call about my uh my uh oh uh deal with uh monoclonal antibodies and go in the hospital and uh I had tested positive for uh COVID on the 9th of December,
which was a Wednesday, and I called my doctor the next very next day on Thursday, I went and got antibodies at 2 30 in the afternoon by Saturday.
I was already feeling like I was not even sick.
So I just every single person that I know, and I I've I've been recommending this again.
I tell people to check with their doctors because I'm not a doctor, but I I've been telling people ask your doctor about monoclonal antibodies, and every single person, anywhere between 24 and 72 hours, they feel great.
How many hours till you felt better?
Well, actually, 24 hours I could tell it was already leaving my right lung where it was starting to set in.
But then by which was Friday, and by Saturday, I was almost like, wow, I couldn't believe it.
And then my wife tested positive three days later, and she went and got it, and within two days, she was feeling better.
I have I have not had a single case.
Now, when taken early, and I I want people to pay very close attention to this.
If you test positive, or as I say, pop positive on a COVID test, you want to get this infusion or the shots, or they they have different methods now.
Uh um I I have found they're equally effective.
Um, if you get it early, you're gonna get better.
I don't know a single person, Linda.
Did we know one person and we've recommended this to everybody in conjunction with their doctors and their doctor's approval?
But I don't know anybody that has had the infusion that didn't have the same result.
Yeah, there was a lot of people who went in for the monoclonals, and basically, you know, if you went in for them, you got better right away.
But you had to go in like you've been saying from the beginning.
You have to do it in those first couple of days.
And if hospitals are not going to give it or they're gonna say they don't have it.
I mean, we had that one case on right before you went on break, Sean, and they had to have a court, they had to have a judge put the court ordered down for the for the woman to get what the doctor prescribed for her because the hospital wouldn't administer it.
Why?
It's unbelievable.
I if for and for example, you can't get certain medicines, but the one you know, again, there was never a shortage until Joe Biden got involved.
I mean, he screwed the whole thing up.
Well, look at last week.
I mean, we were talking about it yesterday.
He bought them all up.
That our government bought them all up.
Why?
And states want to buy their own.
They don't even want Joe's monoclonals.
We'll we'll get our own.
Leave us alone.
And there's no supply because the federal government has taken the whole supply.
And it's like they're hoarding it.
Why would they hoard it and they just ration it out?
And then all of a sudden they gave it yesterday because DeSantis, or two days ago, because DeSantis came out and gave the presser.
And he goes, Oh, yeah, on Sunday, HHS suddenly, you know, they had something to say.
Change of heart.
Oh, yeah, after the this all passed.
Uh well, I'm glad you're okay.
Thanks for that.
Uh I hope people are listening.
And again, I'm not telling you what to do, but if you get a positive test, I don't care if it's the Omicron variant, Delta variant, I don't care which variant.
I'm telling you, I would take it all seriously.
I've seen the worst of this thing.
Linda, you know, cases that we've lived through.
I've lost friends from this virus.
I don't care.
If you test positive early treatment, ask your doctor about monoclonal antibodies.
Eventually, I'm gonna uh every doctor so far that I've talked to speaks very highly, as Dr. Zimberg did about these antivirals from Merck and Pfizer, but you can't get them yet.
Why?
I don't know.
There's a lot of things.
Well, and can we and can we also just touch on briefly, you know, from the beginning we have been saying that you know, treated early, you know, survival rates, success of health, all of these different things, even people with comorbidities tend to do well, right?
But each person and each health situation is different and it's personal, and each person has a different reaction.
And that's why all of this health care is so person dependent.
And that's why mandates don't work and vaccines can work, but it's a person-to-person case.
It's like the young girl that you had on your show going back six months who had this dream of going to this university and they won't let her go, even if she was studying virtually.
Hawaii.
By the way, it wasn't bringing Young's policy, it was Hawaii's policy.
Correct.
And that's I mean, this is what's happening, you know, in our own state.
And she had taken a two and she had had an adverse reaction to the vaccine.
Adverse reaction to another vaccination.
Her doctor recommended she not get the vaccine and.
Correct.
And they wouldn't give her a medical exemption.
I mean, that doesn't even make sense.
That doesn't and then just that that doesn't fit the science, Linda.
What happened to the city?
There is no science.
Go after five year old kids and make them get vaccinated.
Point zero I even there's an updated CDC stat now, as per the CDC, the Almighty.
This point zero zero one percent of children are affected by this virus over the entire life of the virus.
And here's the pro problem.
Now that we're getting breakthrough cases and everything, natural immunity breakthrough, boosters, breakthrough, fully vaccinated breakthrough.
So you really it doesn't matter if your kids are protected or not.
It's not gonna impact you.
If you can survive the virus, if you can use monoclonals, antivirals, therapeutics, why would you inject a vaccine that doesn't have a reputation of working into your child?
Why?
If you can change my mind on that, go for it.
I'm not even I don't I agree with you.
Why are you asking me?
I'm talking, you know, you in general, not you specifically.
I know you and I'm kids between five and eleven.
It's this it's almost the same um d death rate, which I hate to use that word, but it's actually lower.
It's lower than influenza.
I know.
It's lower than pneumonia, lower than bronchitis, lower than all of the upper respiratory infections that we've had in our country and and in our citizens for the past hundred years.
Let's go to Bill in Big Fork.
Uh I think it's Montana.
What's up?
Uh no, I don't.
You got you gotta watch the series.
It's so good.
But anyway, go ahead.
What's on your mind?
Well, uh I'm an old seventy-five year old Air Force vet, and I'm getting real concerned about the direction our country's going in.
Uh the Democrats are now trying they couldn't get the uh Bill Back Better bill through, so now they're trying to push the HR one, which they've called the John uh Lewis uh steal the election bill.
Anyway, I got a question for the Democrats.
There's a fact that uh forty seven countries in Europe.
Forty-six of those forty seven countries require a government issued photo ID to vote.
What's wrong with America?
We can't do the same thing.
They want to have secure elections.
We want to have secure elections.
I want photo IDs and the Democrats can stick it.
I have a list.
Photo ID, just like you need to get into the DNC convention, just like you need for a six-pack uh of beer, uh just like you need for a jewel pot or a pack of cigarettes, just like you need to visit your congressman or senator.
Uh uh just like you need for pretty much everything else to drive a car.
You need a photo ID everywhere.
I want fo I want photo ID, I want signature verification.
If we're gonna do mail in ballots, which apparently is the future, okay.
I want chain of custody.
I want people having control.
We gotta get rid of this this this travesty, which is ballot harvesting.
It's legal in California, believe it or not.
Sh you know, I guess it's pretty easy to believe out there.
Um illegals can't vote, but we also need, you know, updated voter rolls and partisan observers watching the vote count up close, not a hundred feet away, uh, from start to finish.
That's what we need.
And then we'll have confidence in results and election integrity.
I would think everybody would want that.
No, the Democrats don't want any of that.
They want vaccine passports, but they don't want photo ID.
You know, the only reason I can think of they oppose it is because they have nefarious intentions.
That's my guess.
And all you need to do is go to the Carter Baker Commission report and find out how the Democrats want to steal the elections.
That's exactly the things not to do.
That's what they said.
This was after the disaster that was the what was it, the two thousand election.
You're right.
Uh in Florida.
Five hundred and thirty seven hanging, swinging, dimpled, pimpled chads, etc.
dented and everything in between.
Uh Thank you for serving your country, sir.
Donna is in Annapolis in Maryland.
Donna, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, um, happy new year.
This is a great one for you.
Thank you.
I just wanted to reiterate my um displeasure at um governmental figureheads practicing medicine.
It just is um is beyond my comprehension how they are allowed to dictate when and how medications are used and not the physicians who are prescribed them and seeing their patients.
Yeah, I think the doc there are doctors that believe in more unconventional um approaches to medicine, more holistic approaches to medicine, and I think people should have a right to be guided by the doctor that they trust.
I believe in right to try.
Um in the case of this COVID nineteen virus, I I believe that these therapeutics need to be readily available, like monoclonals and these antivirals, assuming that all the doctors I'm talking to, every one of them without exception, praises them.
And so uh yeah, I think you're you're right.
But guess what?
You don't get that.
You you're not allowed to listen to your doctor.
They won't let you in many states.
Well, many states, just like my state, um, has um refuse to allow you to use other medications as part of a protocol for you know, potentially early intervention of, you know, we're talking about like things like HCQ, like hydroxychloroquine.
Yeah, well, in New York it's the same thing.
You you you have to have either lupus or rheumatoid arthritis or going to an area where you need an anti-malarial drug uh to get it, they don't allow any off use.
But I still listen, I'm I'm not a doctor here, but there are now a numerous studies that show, and it started with the Henry uh uh Ford Hospital study that showed taken early, HCQ mitigated symptoms, eighty-four percent successful.
There have been many other studies since then.
The two studies that said that it caused harm had to be rescinded by prestigious medical journals because it was fake news science.
So, but with that said, to me, what I've learned and what I'm seeing anecdotally, and you can talk to your own doctor about it, is that the monoclonals are the best ones.
And I'm hearing a lot of good things about the antivirals, but they're not available anywhere that I know of.
So in the meantime, you know, we need to warp speed monoclonal antibody infusions and shots and have it so every American that needs one or wanted one can have one.
That was the case up until Christmas.
We never had a shortage of this before ever.
Correct, because the government again is either not doing its job um by sending our um medication producing abilities overseas and um not addressing the supply lines of these medications that parts of them are made in other countries.
Um this was very well brought out by the um President Trump that these things should should come home instead of being farmed out to to other countries and the loss of jobs in this country.
So you would think that they would learn their lesson and that they would start doing uh just some of the things like you said, like warp seed, getting the medications produced, and actually doing studies instead of just doing um review of of studies and using that as their guideline,
which you can look on any of these websites and they will tell you all the government ones, NIH, um, that they are just reviewing a collection of other uh other studies that were not actually in vivo, but they're in vitro, meaning they're not using live patients, they're just using anecdotal um statistics and picking and choosing to support their efforts for masking and everything else.
Listen, all I can say is is that Joe Biden was given three vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, and he hasn't lifted a finger in a year, and he even ran out of tests.
He's a he's absolutely useless.
Fauci is useless.
And they're the last people I would go to to get any type of support or help.
And I urge people to work with your doctor even prior to an infection.
What if Doctor, what if I get infected?
What do I do?
Ask your doctor now.
And and locate, for example, where you are uh where they do have monoclonal antibodies.
And if it's not right in your community, find the closest one that does provide them.
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