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Paul vs. Fauci Continues - January 4th, Hour 2
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So all over the papers, there are articles in the mob, the media that are telling us that Joe Manchin is back uh negotiating with build back better.
And I can cite article after article after article.
Well, Joe Manchin apparently is not negotiating a better quote build back better deal.
Uh here's him earlier today in his own words.
And would you support build back better if child tax credit was not into that?
I'm really not going to talk about build back better anymore, because I think I've been very clear on that.
There is no negotiations going on at this time.
Okay.
And there's an awful lot of things that had a lot of uh a lot of things that were very uh uh I think well intended.
And there was a lot of things that was pretty far reach on some things in the most delicate times that we have right now, and our country's divided.
And I don't uh intend to do anything that divides our country anymore.
So whatever I can do to unite and bring people together, and that means you have to work harder as you work across the aisle to bring people together.
Now, what's interesting about this is both Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer, they have said that they are going to put build back better on the back burner, and now they're moving forward with a vote to change the filibuster.
Um before I get to Chuck Schumer's statements about that, let's just remind everybody what Democrats have said over the years defending keeping the filibuster.
Speaking of those other candidates, several of them have proposed major structural reforms to our government and to our democracy.
These include abolishing the Electoral College, uh expanding the size of the Supreme Court, setting term limits for justices, abolishing the legislative filibuster, which, if any of these, do you support?
None.
What the filibuster does, what the extended debate does is to force both sides of the aisle to come together in a bipartisan compromising way.
They want, because they can't get their way on every judge, to change the rules in midstream.
To wash away 200 years of history.
They want to make this country into a banana republic.
Where if you don't get your way, you change the rules.
That would be Chuck Schumer wanting a banana republic.
Anyway, joining us now, we have to talk about this.
Obviously, what's going on with Omicron and and much much more.
Senator and also medical doctor Ram Paul of Kentucky is with us.
So Build Back Better, for all intent and purposes, w was dead at the end of last year.
All these articles suggesting that negotiations are going on, Manchin denying it, and now they've moved on to ending the filibuster, the very thing that Chuck Schumer said would cause the United States to become a banana republic.
You know, I think build back better still is dead.
I think if they resurrect it, it'll be something completely different.
It'll still be spending money, but uh I think that uh Senator Manchin's put the kabosh on at least half of what they wanted to put into it, so it would have to be a much smaller bill.
It'll still be a bill according to Republicans like myself and conservatives that'll just be full of, you know, social spending and social organizing and social construction of your personal life, which isn't good.
So I'll still oppose it even if it's smaller.
But I do respect Senator Manchin for standing up and uh, you know, really saying, look, this is not what the people of West Virginia elected me for.
And I think that's certainly true.
West Virginia is a pretty conservative state, and I think they probably appreciate uh Manchin standing up to Schumer and Bernie Sanders and some of the crazy left wingers in the Democrat Party.
Do you think that they have a shot at at this successful effort to change the filibuster rules and what that would be used for?
You know, a couple of years ago, about fourteen of them signed a letter saying they were against the for filibuster uh getting rid of the filibuster.
So there's been a large contingent of them that have to change their mind.
Now most of those people have changed their mind now that they're in charge.
They say, Oh, yeah, we don't want the filibuster because we're in charge.
But really, it's about protecting uh the minority, and so we don't become a pure democracy.
It's about uh trying to prevent things from moving too quickly in one direction or another.
The filibuster is really a big part of you know of our republic and of keeping us safe from bad ideas and big government.
Can they do can they get rid of it?
It would require Mansion and Cinema.
Both have said they would not vote to get rid of the filibuster to vote.
And some Democrats say, oh, well, we'll just get rid of it for voting rights.
Well, the interesting thing about voting rights is is I think there was a time in our history, yeah, that it was terrible when people were suppressed and people couldn't vote.
But the great thing about our country is for really probably the last ten, twenty years, African Americans are actually voting at a higher percentage than white Americans.
So I mean, we've come a long way.
And Supreme Courts acknowledge this, historians have acknowledged this.
They're not wanting to fix anything up here because of racial disparity in voting.
They're wanting to fix it so Democrat operatives can mail balance to Democrats and they can mine the election for Democrats and try to get people to vote by mail without knowing who the people are and not having them show any identification.
It has nothing to do with racial disparity, it has everything to do with Democrats trying to game the system.
You know, it's a m it's it's an amazing cha listen, I'll be honest, Republicans do the same thing.
Uh when they're in power, there's some that will support changing the filibuster, and then vice versa, but both parties do it.
Um but the scary part is where they would take this agenda.
Um I think you're a constitutionalist senator.
You're a libertarian more than a Republican.
I'm a conservative more than I'm a Republican.
Um and we just it's a coalition party with varying viewpoints, and I admire libertarian viewpoints.
I become even more libertarian as I get older.
And as I I look at this, if if what they really want to do is take away the constitutional authority that is, you know, ex it's directly addressed and expressed in the Constitution that states are responsible for the way and manner in which elections are to be held, not Washington.
Yeah, and I think the reason you still want a filibuster is that think about it, over the last two hundred and fifty years, are there more ideas that promote big government or more ideas and legislation put forward that would actually limit your freedom?
See, the advocacy is for groups that want to manipulate government, make it bigger, use it to their advantage.
Whereas the people who want freedom, the people who want to be left alone aren't a real advocacy group.
They don't have lobbyists on K Street.
And so what happens is over time, more often than not, legislation is bad.
And so we should make it such that legislation's not easy to pass, that it takes an overwhelming consensus and a supermajority.
So the the leg uh the filibuster has actually protected us against a lot of bad ideas.
There have been times in our history when we probably would have gotten outright socialism.
You know, we headed toward socialism, but there was some kind of restraint with a filibuster that ultimately didn't allow us to go all the way to socialism.
And so without the filibuster, that's what will happen is very quickly.
Someone will win a big election and they'll go headlong into socialism will never be able to get the country back.
I saw the filed for reelection.
I was glad to see that.
I think we need people like you in the Senate.
There's not many of you that I admire to be perfectly blunt with you.
Would you like me to give you the list of names of people in your caucus that I don't admire?
I don't think you do.
Um but but but by the way, I'm pretty sure deep down in your heart, if you were going to be totally honest, you don't like them either.
Well, what I would say is is that I think my voice is an important one up here.
I'm willing to stand up to Fauci on where the origin of the virus came from.
I'm willing to put him in his place to rebuke him with the facts.
And I'm also willing to say that if I'm elected again that I will take him to task, I will subpoena his records, and we will find out exactly what he did, whether or not he covered up anything with regards to the origin of the virus.
But you have to realize that the knives come out.
Anybody stands up to the establishment as often as I do, the knives come out.
So people want to know more about it.
You know, they can go to Ranfall.com and they can help me because the institutional forces that are out there are aligned because some Republicans don't like my voice, and none of the Democrats like my voice out there.
I I don't really care about them.
There's there's very few senators that I really want re elected, and you're one of them.
Um and you've been a very powerful voice on a lot of important issues, uh, one of them being COVID.
We now have what, a million cases, and you know, chronicled in the last day and a half.
America has taken the brunt of the COVID epidemic more than any other country, according to articles I'm reading today.
And here's what I'm having a hard time reconciling, Senator.
You you were outspoken.
You you told the world, you shared your personal medical information, you got COVID-19.
You recovered from COVID-19, uh, you refused to take a vaccine.
Um this is what I learned over my two-week vacation.
I spent a lot of time helping people, giving them information that I had and passing them on to doctors if they didn't have doctors available to them.
I learned that people that were fully uh vaccinated, they still got Omicron, fully vaccinated and boostered, they still got Omicron, fully vaccinated, boostered, and even people with natural immunity got Omicron.
I know people, a number of them that got uh COVID now for the second time with Omicron.
Now, since the early days of Omicron, we've learned that it's way more contagious than previous variants, but we've also learned that it's far less lethal.
Here's my question.
How is it possible two years into this pandemic, we ran out of tests all over the country in the lead up to this election?
We know that Joe Biden was presented a plan in October, according to Vanity Fair that would have provided seven hundred and fifty million tests that would be available for the holiday season, and he turned it down.
Uh so two years into it, we ran out of test, two years or a year and a half since the on since we've had monoclonal antibodies, uh we I didn't know they were readily available everywhere.
Uh, but now over Christmas there was a shortage of them.
It was very hard to get them.
I tried to help many people find places that that had the infusion or the shot.
Now we've got these antiviral medicines by Pfizer and I think the other companies Merck, and their FDA approved, and according to medical professionals I'm interviewing, I don't know anything about it, to be honest.
They say that it's very effective.
Uh none of those antivirals were available either.
How is that possible?
This is the problem with putting the government in charge of all health care.
So supply and demand in the marketplace is met because suppliers want to make a profit, and so there's always the supply to meet the demand.
The government bought all the monoclonal antibodies, and so the government owns them and distributes them just uh like the Politburo would distribute bread in the Soviet Union.
Yeah, they're hoarding it, and they won't they won't allow states to buy their own, which was finally Braun DeSantis set up these monoclonal antibody centers, and Joe Biden cut them off and he started buying his own.
Now he can't buy his own, he told me last night.
I have I have doctors calling me, emailing me, and pleading me with me for supply of monoclonal antibodies.
What they did is they cut off the old one.
Now the old one may not be as effective.
Some of the regeneration initial uh monoclonal antibodies may not be as effective with Omicron.
There are better ones now.
But before the better ones were on the market, when the old one, see, we don't know who has Delta and who has Omicron.
Most people aren't tested.
Just know they have coronavirus.
And so the thing is is if you're getting sicker and there's no other choice, wouldn't you want to take the regeneron monochronous antibodies if that's all that's available?
But the government and their wisdom just sort of cut us off.
And that's a real problem.
But by the way, it's not that difficult to break down the sequence of you know which virus you have.
It's an extra step, but it's not that difficult.
You're right, but they're still not always doing that as people are testing, and a lot of the home tests are just testing for coronavirus.
On the testing or lack of testing kits, it's twofold.
One, there's the Biden bureaucratic snafu that they're just not very good at doing things or distributing things.
But the other problem is with Scott Atlas and Jay Battacharia and others have pointed out is we've never in the history of medicine, really for really modern medicine the last couple hundred years, we've never tested people who don't have symptoms.
So to continue to encourage people to get tested when they have no symptoms is really a a problem.
All right, quick break.
More with Senator Rampala, Kentucky, on the other side.
All right.
We continue now with Senator Rampall of Kentucky.
If we now are in a position where I think most people have made up their mind about vax or don't vax, I don't know whether you agree with that, but I think most people have made their decision.
So if I'm right about that, and now we have people fully vaccinated getting Omicron, fully vaccinated with a booster getting it, and people with natural immunity getting it, my question is, shouldn't now the focus be on the therapeutics?
And where's Operation Warp Speed to put out millions of test kits?
Where's Operation Warp Speed to speed up the process of making monoclonal antibodies and these antiviral medicines?
Well, there's a real question whether uh you're right, we should have therapeutics and we should be prepared for those who get sick, the vulnerable, and we should try to save the vulnerable absolutely without question.
But the other question we have now is Omicron may actually become more like a cold virus.
There are four coronaviruses that are out there.
We've had them for a hundred years, and they cause 20% of a common cold.
There are many doctors who are now saying that Omicron will be the fifth coronavirus that causes the common cold, and we will all gain inoculation from it.
We will all gain immunity from it.
And the good news is there's cross-reactivity.
So those who get omicron, which is pretty mild, will also have some resistance to Delta and to the original one.
In other words, more natural immunity, and it could get us to herd immunity, is what I think I hear you saying.
Well, you're going there one way or another.
Everybody's going to get Omicron.
So this argument by the nuts over there at CNN that, oh, you're endangering Grandpa.
No one's endangering anybody.
Vaccinated or unvaccinated, you are liable to get this.
What the vaccine does is it reduces your chance of being hospitalized or dying.
And by the way, for the record, you recommend people, older people and people with pre-existing conditions to get it.
Without question.
Without question.
And I think obesity at any age, you gotta be vaccinated, and particularly after a certain age, at least 65, but probably lower than that.
A vaccine is without question much safer than getting the disease.
All right, Senator Rampall, he's now announced his re-election.
And uh, if you want to see where he stands on the issues, what's your website again?
They can go to Rand Paul.com and they can help us out or find out more about the issues.
All right, thank you, Senator Rampall.
Quick break, right back.
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bias by omission with the media mob.
Now we've chronicled obviously Zero Experience Hunter and the great financial contribution of you know the there was a virtual blackout of what was in Hunter Biden's laptop.
Just like there was a virtual media amnesia and ignoring the quid pro quo with Joe, and you're not getting a billion dollars unless you fire the prosecutor that is investigating my son who's being paid millions and has zero experience.
But there actually is a pretty good list that the sex allegations, for example, that plague the Lincoln project.
Uh damning report that had come out that one of the co-founders had formerly parted waves with the group, accused of sexually harassing 20 young men online, including minors.
Uh the mounting political woes of Andrew Cuomo.
Did you notice, Linda, that Andrew Cuomo, he's not going to get indicted for any of the nursing home deaths.
There's not going to be any criminal anything there.
I assume there'll be civil lawsuits that that make their way into the courts, but who knows what when you you get into the New York court system.
Um Biden's phone call urging the Afghan president to push the stability perception.
Imagine if Donald Trump made that phone call.
There is a need to project a different picture.
That would be called telling the Afghan president to lie, knowing that the Taliban was on the march, and now we know the result of it.
Americans abandoned and trapped behind enemy lines and thousands of green card holders and Afghan allies getting pulled out of their homes and murdered in broad daylight, and women and girls now losing all rights that they had prior to the Islamic the emergence of the Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan.
The media doesn't seem that interested in what Rand Paul was just talking about, and that is the Fauci lies to Congress about the NIH and their funding through the Eco Health Alliance of the Wuhan Virology Lab, where we all knew that coronaviruses were being studied.
We all knew gain of function took place there.
So it was a pretty logical conclusion to to come to.
And we have all the evidence from the Intercept, all of Fauci's emails, and we even have the NIH acknowledging that they knew.
But that's not an issue.
There was very little coverage of McCullough, who was running in Virginia.
His remark declaring parents shouldn't have a say in what schools teach.
Is that the modern Democratic Party?
Kamala Harris going viral for a space video with the child actors.
That was one of the most hideous moments.
It's sort of like, Linda, did you see the video today of uh of Joe Biden with fake snow behind him?
It's so bizarre.
It is so bizarre.
I mean, they probably didn't even tell him it was fake.
He probably thought he was in a snowstorm.
Maybe maybe I'm the only one that observed this.
We played this montage yesterday on this program and on TV last night.
And the montage is of Joe Biden in the campaign.
And Joe Biden said over and over and over again that he was gonna, you know, beat COVID.
And now I've I've juxtaposed it with him saying, well, it's not the federal government's job.
That's up to the states.
Listen.
I'll put in place the plan to deal with this pandemic responsibly.
I've already done it.
Look, there is no federal solution.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
Look, there is no federal solution.
I'm not gonna shut down the country, but I'm gonna shut down the virus.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
Look, there is no federal solution.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
Look, there is no federal solution.
We will deal honestly with the American people.
And we'll never ever, ever quit.
That's how we shut down this virus.
Look, there is no federal solution.
I'm gonna shut down the virus.
Look, there is no federal solution.
Now, by the way, did you notice Joe Biden just a year ago?
The sound quality, cadence, tone, pitch of his voice versus today.
Uh there's no federal solution.
We're gonna shut down the virus.
Did you notice that or is that just me?
I think everybody notices it.
I mean, he's sluggish at best.
I think those are the days he can't get home to his, you know, third floor medicinal hospital in his own Delaware home.
I mean, the guy is so jacked up.
I don't know what I I don't know what it is, but I do know that it seems to be progressing, and he seems to be getting cognitively worse.
Yeah, well, that's why when he has a moment of brilliance, he speaks the truth, like he did with Peter Ducy when he was like, why would we ever give 450,000 dollars to illegal immigrants?
And then two days later, when he was told to shut up and do what he was told, the whole story changed.
This guy's a puppet.
This is not this is not our commander in chief by any stretch.
I have no idea who's in charge.
Nobody really does.
Then we have the Durham probe indictment that that gave a devastating blow to the steel nausea.
The only media outlet, and I can't believe I'm gonna say a nice thing about the Washington Post, but at least they acknowledge their reporting was for three, four years was dead wrong.
Nobody else did.
And the entire mob in the media got away with it.
Then you have the the DOJ whistleblower.
Imagine if Trump's president and you know there is a a threat targeting parents uh with the FBI a threat tag um to go after them because they might get loud at school board meetings.
I mean, you can't even make that stuff up.
And an FBI whistleblower revealed the agency created the threat tag to track uh parents at school board meetings.
Although that would be the job of the local police.
But at the same time, Sean, we got the new DA appointed by Eric Adams, who's continuing all of the ridiculous overreaching authorities from De Blasio.
Now he's got this DA coming in.
He's not gonna be seeking prison sentences for all these criminals.
We got bailouts for every single person who is committing a crime, but if you go to a school board hearing and you want to speak on behalf of your child, then you're you're a criminal and they can look into you.
And not only are they looking into you, but we got our acronym agencies looking into you.
It's not just local police, it's the FBI, it's a CIA, and they're putting out forms on you.
The biggest contribution in 2020 to Joe Biden came from the media, the media mob.
Look at Hunter Biden's laptop.
Look at the lack of experience.
You know, Libya had a dossier on Hunter Biden.
They knew he was a drug addict, they knew he he hired hookers.
If they had that dossier, what do you think the communist Chinese have on the Biden family?
It's an amazing amount of corruption that we have in the media mob.
Media mob all week this week will cover January 6th.
This is the week, uh, the one year anniversary of what happened on January 6th.
We said it live that day on this program.
We can't have any kind of rioting, and we've got to protect our elected officials.
We've been very consistent.
Just like we were consistent over the summer of July of 2020, when over the summer of 2020, when we had what, five hundred and seventy-four riots.
We had billions of dollars of property damage, arson and looting.
We had dozens of Americans killed, murdered.
We had thousands of cops hurt, many of them badly, and yet there's no committee led by Liz Cheney and company and Nancy Pelosi.
The one thing they won't ask in this committee, and this is why I keep saying it's a phony committee.
It's it's a rigged investigation with a predetermined outcome, is because this this is Liz Cheney's alliance, unholy alliance with Nancy Pelosi and Company, so that they can purge the Republican Party of Donald Trump and make sure Donald Trump never runs for president again.
I don't think it's gonna work because if they really wanted to get to the root cause, you've got to ask some really tough questions.
Donald Trump asked for the National Guard to be called up that day, knowing hundreds of thousands of people were going to march on the Capitol.
He did that days before, January 6th.
Um, the same with Mark Meadows.
The same with the Capitol Police Chief.
He asked six separate times for the National Guard.
The person that would be in charge of that is the sergeant of arms, the sergeant of arms reports to Nancy Pelosi.
Nancy Pelosi needs to be investigated and put under oath.
Are they gonna do that?
No, that's not gonna happen.
Um, it's pretty unbelievable.
Just like they're not gonna investigate the 574 riots over the summer.
I mean, it is it is and they can't talk about anything else because there's nothing successful that Joe Biden has done.
What are they gonna talk about?
What, the million COVID cases in the last that was just reported last night?
The new cases of Omicron.
Are they gonna talk about the shortage of tests in the country two years into the pandemic?
The shortage of of what it is the single best therapeutic that's been out there, which are monoclonal antibodies, or they're gonna talk about the shortage of antiviral medicines that I'm told I know nothing about it personally, ask your own doctor that I'm told are working.
It's unbelievable.
And if people vaccinated and boostered with natural immunity are all getting to Omicron, maybe it's time to start talking about, okay, well, if you have a breakthrough infection, what is the best way to treat you?
Unbelievable.
By the way, I saw that MSDNC's Joy Reed on our show said they're white so-called Christian conservatives who feel like this country was built by them for them, so everyone but them needs to suck it up and let them have their way, or else.
What is she talking about?
Uh that's NBC News playing that.
Pretty unbelievable, the environment we live in.
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All right, as we get back to our busy phones, uh, let's go to California and we'll say hi to David.
David, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Glad you called.
Hi, how are you?
Thanks for having me on.
Um I'm from Venice Beach, and I was calling to talk a little bit about uh the so-called homeless situation we have here, which is actually more of a criminal junkie situation at this point.
Um I I live in a nice area of Venice, and everywhere around us are these they call them homeless camps, and they're basically like little shanty towns set up.
Um I was attacked by somebody walking through there and had to go to trial with this person, and within you know a few weeks, the person was right back on the street.
And we're seeing this constantly over and over again.
There's no policing, and there's no enforcement of any normal laws that any law abiding citizen would have to deal with.
And here's just out of control.
And what part of uh California do you say you're from?
Venice Beach.
Okay.
Listen, in all in New York State, California, it's all the same thing.
And that is you have no bail laws.
Uh basically it's like catching and process and release even bank robbers in New York, so they can go out and rob more banks.
Uh, they cut the police by a billion dollars in New York City.
They cut a huge amount of money from the LAPD, and that was praised by Kamala Harris.
So, you know, if you're dismantling and, you know, defunding the police and you have no bail laws, this is exactly why you know crime is surging.
It was a story yesterday that people in in the Beverly Hills are buying more guns than ever before because they feel a need that they're gonna have to protect themselves, and the police that are working, they're not that inclined to get in trouble because they know if they make one wrong move or one wrong decision, their life is over.
They'll be they'll be prejudged by the media mob and and by others.
And if you try to do anything as a neighborhood, for example, we get together and we try and clean things up or landscape some of the land so people can't keep camping there, and all of these so-called advocates for homeless show up.
And they're all, for example, we have a place there called the St. Joseph Center.
They're getting millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from our state government.
So why would they ever want this stuff to clean up?
Because it's an ongoing job for them.
And we we've kind of figured out it's a money rap.
Like nobody wants to clean anything up because first of all, they're making money.
Second of all, it convinces people to pay more taxes.
Third of all, basically they're saying, Oh, we're gonna be the ones to come in and save you, but then nothing ever changes.
And I think unless people start voting differently.
Well, it I I don't really see much hope for states like New York and California.
I really don't.
And I'm I'm being honest.
And I uh I said this to Larry Elder.
I said it to Caitlin Jenner.
I admired the fact they wanted to throw their hat in the ring and give Californians an opportunity to change course.
Um the pr the problem is, and it goes back to this article that I mentioned earlier in the program in the New York Post, and it shows that residents fled democratic states that have surging crime and COVID-19 draconian restrictions, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, California, not far behind.
California, for the first time in 171 years had a net loss of population.
That tells you a lot.
New Jersey led the nation with 70% of the people involved in moves were fleeing New Jersey to just 30% that migrated uh into the state.
Illinois, same thing.
Uh they came in second.
New York came in third.
Sixty three percent of movers were heading for the exits, thirty seven percent moved in.
Uh, and if you look at nearly eighty percent of the moves in Nassau and Suffolk County were people exiting the highest outbound rate of any region in the country.
And it for good reason, for the reasons you're describing.
This is one of the most, I would say one of the most liberal places in the state.
And I can see my neighbors who are the very liberal voters, are starting to change their minds.
So if anything, it's a time to seize on that and figure out a way to capture these votes because people are frustrated.
But the thing is they just keep voting for the same thing over and over again.
I mean, they're I'm not I'm not Pollyanish in my life.
I I don't see enough.
I think the people that would be inclined to really change the state of California and turn it into the once great state that elected guys like Ronald Reagan.
Um, I don't see it going back any time in my lifetime.
The same with New York.
New York's gone.
Uh you know, I can't tell you how many people have said to me, Hannity, you need to run for office in New York.
And I look at them, I'm like, why?
I'll lose.
I'm not gonna win in New York.
I couldn't win, I I couldn't win dog catcher in New York.
Um just that's reality.
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