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| My name, Joe Pagliarulo, Joe Pags, and man, it's a lot to talk about. | |
| I'll be honest with you. | |
| I'm going to come straight from the shoulder today on this one. | |
| Linda, I'm gonna come straight from the shoulder on this one. | |
| You just made me listen to Joe Biden speak. | |
| Uh and he started out by saying he's gonna come straight from the shoulder. | |
| Uh I literally, I couldn't breathe. | |
| I was like, Well, I'm sorry, what where are you coming from? | |
| Right. | |
| I mean, I've heard you come talking out of other body parts, but never your shoulder, which is very interesting to me. | |
| So we're listening to this thing. | |
| Now listen, I I've got a show planned today that hopefully you're gathering the kids around the radio because we've got Roger Stone on, we've got Dinesh D'Souza on, we've got Sean Spicer on, and the 45th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, will be calling into the program live in the third hour. | |
| And I was gonna start out with January 6th, what really happened that day. | |
| Let's break it down, let's not tell lies, let's let's be straight about it. | |
| And then I've got this guy talking from the shoulder. | |
| He's whispering, do the right thing. | |
| Don't listen to cable news. | |
| Look, look, listen, clearly. | |
| And then he starts coughing. | |
| He's out there talking about COVID-19 and how we have to be more healthy, and he has to stop for a cough break every three words. | |
| He just got his 87th booster. | |
| He's like, Oh, I don't know what's wrong. | |
| He's got to get 90. | |
| You have to talk to Captain, you gotta get 90 boosters. | |
| I mean, uh the bottom line is this guy walks out and he says the most ridiculous things that are not scientific, that are not medically based. | |
| And and it's interesting, the conversation with Linda before the show was uh, you know, I probably have to start with this because this day everybody's watching this right now. | |
| As you said, do you want some sound bites? | |
| I said, nah. | |
| Well, well, I probably not. | |
| I could just say what he said. | |
| Now do I tell people what you said? | |
| Or or not? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| She said, I don't want to really hear him again. | |
| I don't want to hear that. | |
| Why would we make the audience suffer? | |
| You know, we're celebrating the birth of Christ this week. | |
| Right. | |
| So these are happy things happening. | |
| You know, it's about the baby Jesus. | |
| The baby Jesus is on his way, and we're gonna, you know, uh, turns out if the baby Jesus were born this year, Fauci and Biden want them to get a shot. | |
| That's right. | |
| It's very strange. | |
| Everybody should get a shot if you're from birth until 97 years old. | |
| Everybody's gotta get a shot. | |
| He came out and he said the weirdest stuff. | |
| Uh, and basically the whole push was get vaccinated. | |
| You're a bad person if you're not vaccinated. | |
| You're only a good person if you are vaccinated, and he keeps using the term fully vaccinated. | |
| I don't know what that's supposed to mean, because there is no real definition. | |
| Allegedly it was one shot from this company, two shots from the other company, you're fully vaccinated. | |
| Then you needed a booster, because I guess the first shot didn't work. | |
| And then you were fully vaccinated. | |
| Then you needed a second booster. | |
| People are pushing a third booster, and Fauci alluded a couple of weeks ago to a fourth booster. | |
| And the fourth booster is supposed to help against Omicron, which it doesn't help against at all. | |
| The vaccines, in fact, don't work on Omicron, as far as we know today. | |
| And I've got scientists and doctors on my show all the time, so does Sean, and and we're just gonna give you the truth. | |
| At the end of the day, Omicron is probably what we want. | |
| I had Peter McCullough on my show yesterday, the medical doctor, who's who's been uh an outcast and canceled by everybody because he dares tell the truth, but he said that Omicron is probably an early Christmas present. | |
| And you ask yourself, well, why would a variant of COVID 19 be a Christmas present? | |
| Well, if you listen to the doctors out of South Africa, and I do, um, They say it's mild. | |
| The symptoms are you don't lose your sense of taste. | |
| You don't lose your sense of smell. | |
| Um, and people are surviving it. | |
| I've heard of one person who died with Omicron, who was in the UK, and they said with, they didn't say of. | |
| So with all that in mind, you still have Biden and Saki and everybody else out here talking about go and get vaccinated, pushing vaccines for children, which it's not advised by any medical doctor, any real scientist for a child to go and get it unless there's a comorbidity, a previous health condition, and the doctor says you should consider getting it. | |
| Other than that, it's politicians telling us to get our kids vaccinated. | |
| And Biden goes on about how there's going to be an empty chair at the Christmas table this year because I guess somebody died from from COVID-19. | |
| I don't know. | |
| More people died under his administration than under Trump, and he's the guy that said Trump should not be the president if that many people die. | |
| Again, more people have died this year than under President Trump. | |
| He did, however, oddly give credit to the previous administration. | |
| I found that to be interesting during the talk from the shoulder. | |
| He literally said, I'm gonna come at you from the shoulder. | |
| I want to put up on the screen for those who are watching. | |
| If you want to watch this program, it's twitch.com/slash Joe Pags. | |
| I know a lot of you are on the road, and many of you are listening in your favorite station to the Sean Hannity show. | |
| But I want to show this to people who are watching. | |
| This was put out by Whitehouse.gov. | |
| This literally was put out. | |
| This is a real thing from the official website of the White House. | |
| We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt work and school for the vaccinated. | |
| In other words, it can disrupt work in school for the unvaccinated, I guess. | |
| You've done the right thing, and we will get through this. | |
| And that's already bad enough. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| That's already nuts that you're dividing us between vaccinated and unvaccinated. | |
| We're gonna look out for you, we're gonna make sure it doesn't affect you. | |
| If you're not vaccinated, screw you. | |
| Well, actually, they almost say that. | |
| They say for the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm. | |
| This isn't me. | |
| I'm not doing a parody here. | |
| This isn't me pretending. | |
| This is real. | |
| The White House itself, the presidency of Joe Biden itself, literally sent that out on the website. | |
| I'm gonna add some effect for the unvaccinated. | |
| You're looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm. | |
| Linda, is that real from the website? | |
| I'm not making that up, right? | |
| That shit that was there. | |
| So what that what I just sent you? | |
| No, no, I what you just sent me. | |
| No, no, I'm talking about the actual thing that was in Whitehouse.gov that I was reading when you sent me. | |
| No, it's 100% real. | |
| But then I think what's here's the scary thing, right? | |
| So everything that we're talking about is real, and everything that we're showing you is real, and nobody's seeing it, and nobody knows it exists, and nobody knows what's coming when legislative session starts in January. | |
| Like on January 5th, Linda just sent me this. | |
| On January 5th, when the legislative session starts, these are bills that are all going to be passed by the this is the New York State Senate. | |
| Is that what this is? | |
| New York State Assembly. | |
| New York State Assembly. | |
| But it goes up to the governor, just so you know. | |
| So it has to go through all the legislative process. | |
| Right. | |
| And for those that don't know, the assembly in New York is the same as the House of Representatives in other states. | |
| They call it assembly in some states, and the House in other states. | |
| These are the bills that they're that the legislation they're taking up. | |
| Forced COVID shot mandates just to go to school, forced all adult uh vaccine records into a state database. | |
| They're gonna track your record now as to what health procedure you did or didn't get. | |
| Forced flu shots, forced COVID shots for COVID uh for college kids to attend school or preschool daycare, forced flu shots, eliminates the religious exemptions for work in college. | |
| So the first amendment means nothing starting January 5th. | |
| Enjoy it now, because in a couple of weeks you have no first amendment anymore. | |
| Eliminates parents' consent to shots when a child reaches 14 years of age. | |
| In other words, if you're 14, you want to go get a shot. | |
| You don't have to tell your parents. | |
| If your parents don't feed you and don't house you and don't shelter you and don't care for you, they can be arrested for neglect of some sort. | |
| But if you're 14, you can go and get the shot and do anything you want to do. | |
| Eliminates the parents' consent to shots when the child reaches 14, eliminates parents' right to consent to SDD shots for children. | |
| Well, really. | |
| Really? | |
| Come on, dude. | |
| This is stunning to me. | |
| Children of any age. | |
| So my three-year-old can get an S T D shot, Linda. | |
| Is that what you're telling me? | |
| The scary part is that this is all real. | |
| This is all right. | |
| Right, We're not making it up. | |
| This is really happening in New York State. | |
| This is happening. | |
| This is what they're doing. | |
| And people are asleep at the switch. | |
| We have people outside in the dead and night in 25 degree weather, wearing a mask, walking their dog alone. | |
| I'm like, really? | |
| And it gets better. | |
| Oh, by the way, people are swimming with masks on. | |
| People are driving to the road. | |
| They're swimming, they're playing basketball, they're in their car alone with a mask on. | |
| Yep. | |
| And we go look at Instagram. | |
| People are literally doing this crap. | |
| The next one, it gets even worse. | |
| Assembly Bill A four sixteen allows the governor to imprison without trial anyone she considers a threat to public health. | |
| What? | |
| So if I'm unvaccinated and I am, and I go out and about, and the governor sees me as a public health threat, I can be in prison. | |
| I can no. | |
| I can be arrested and jailed. | |
| Well, you already have free thoughts, so you should probably go to jail now. | |
| We'll just we'll just lock you up for thinking on your own. | |
| Thanks for saying it out loud, Linda. | |
| That's what I mean. | |
| Now I have to worry for the next three hours. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| Assemblymember Patrick Burke's upcoming bill will eliminate unvaccinated people's access to health insurance. | |
| In other words, if you aren't vaccinated, you will not have access to health insurance if this goes through in New York State. | |
| These are all real. | |
| These are really happening. | |
| That's on the agenda January 5th. | |
| Now I want you to keep in mind the guy who created the vaccine technology, MRNA. | |
| His name is Dr. Robert Malone. | |
| I've had him on my show. | |
| He says that natural immunity is head and shoulders better than vaccine immunity. | |
| Those who have had either SARS, which is SARS-CoV-1 back in the day, or COVID-19, which is SARS-CoV-2, already have natural immunity. | |
| In fact, those who had SARS back in the day are immune, according to Robert Malone, from getting SARS-CoV-2, according to Dr. Robert Urso. | |
| I mean, or I have or Richard Urso, I have these people on all the time. | |
| Sean has them on all the time. | |
| They're telling the truth. | |
| So if you've already had COVID or you had SARS back in the day, and you're naturally immune from getting any of these variants or anything new, still in New York State, according to these bills, according according to Joe Biden and Jensaki, nationally, you're still the bad guy. | |
| And you should be imprisoned or locked up or in trouble, and your kid can get a shot whether you like it or not. | |
| We can give cream puffs to people and a piece of pizza or a bagel, and we're gonna we're gonna give you a million dollar lottery if you get your shot today. | |
| This is sick. | |
| This is about empowering and enriching pharmaceutical companies. | |
| This isn't about good science. | |
| This isn't about good medicine. | |
| This isn't about keeping us safe. | |
| And the dire warning put up on the White House website, the dire warning put out by Coffin Joe Biden today from his shoulder. | |
| They were sick. | |
| They're literally sick, and they're and they're in the antithesis of science. | |
| Even though Fauci says he is science, he's the embodiment of science. | |
| I represent science. | |
| No, he doesn't. | |
| He represents the pharmaceutical companies that are making a bunch of money. | |
| And he represents hiding the fact that he did gain of function research and he lied to Rand Paul in that panel. | |
| So I was going to start with January 6th. | |
| I guess not. | |
| I'm going to start with that because that is fresh off the presses. | |
| It's fresh from the shoulder of the president of the United States, not even from his mouth. | |
| His shoulder said this today just a little while ago. | |
| I don't want to hear your thoughts on it. | |
| 800 941 Sean. | |
| That's 800-941-7326. | |
| Go to my new website. | |
| We just put it up there today. | |
| Joe Pags.com. | |
| We're back to the next one. | |
| Go now. | |
| Go to the website. | |
| Go there. | |
| Tennessee of government lies. | |
| He's the beacon of truth. | |
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| Great to have you, Joe Pags in for Sean Hannity. | |
| This is the Sean Hannity Show. | |
| Of course, everything's Sean, go to Hannity.com. | |
| My website is Joe Pags.com. | |
| The list that I just read you that Linda gave me about the legislation in New York State. | |
| I just put it up on my social media. | |
| Easy to remember how to find me on social media. | |
| And again, Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. | |
| They will not show you my page. | |
| But if you go directly to it, you'll find me. | |
| It's at Joe Talk Show on the big three, Facebook, Instagram, and on Twitter. | |
| It's also at Joe Talk Show on Getter, which is starting. | |
| We've got like fifth 150 something thousand there now, which is growing pretty quickly. | |
| Parlor and Telegram and others, it's at Joe Pags. | |
| If it's a verified account, you'll find me. | |
| I put that list up everywhere because immediately people were asking me, can I see that list, please? | |
| That's where it is. | |
| All right, we've got um Roger Stone coming up at the bottom of The hour. | |
| He refused to testify in front of the January 6th Commission. | |
| He took the Fifth Amendment. | |
| We talk about why he did that. | |
| We'll have Denesha Souza next hour. | |
| We'll have Sean Spicer, hour number three, and the forty-fifth president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, will call in live at the bottom of hour number four, breaking down what Joe Biden had to say, the current occupant of the White House about the COVID 19 shots, the vaccines. | |
| Now it's going to be a bunch of free tests for everybody, and they're free. | |
| You know, Linda, they're free. | |
| They don't cost anything. | |
| The government just has money laying around. | |
| I mean, it's not like taxpayers are funding it. | |
| It's just free. | |
| Everything is free. | |
| Even though, even though it's free, though, you have to hand in all of your ID, you have to hand in your medical card, you have to turn everything over, which I don't really understand. | |
| And you know, there's an interesting point that was made. | |
| I was having a conversation with a friend about this, and I said, you know, I'm really curious why the vaccination card has four spots. | |
| So when you guys do something going on. | |
| Oh, 100%. | |
| I'm like, this has never been a mystery. | |
| This has always been a plan. | |
| And the fact that you need 16 boosters, two shots, we got four different companies. | |
| Right. | |
| You can't talk about Ivermectin. | |
| You can't talk about HCQ, but you can develop your own pill from Pfizer. | |
| Oh, guess what? | |
| It only took us a month because we, you know, we're just that good. | |
| I'm like, is everybody lost their mind? | |
| It's Omicron shows up and suddenly we've got a fourth booster for it. | |
| Well, how did you come up with that? | |
| Just to your point, you don't come up with that that fast. | |
| And for those who aren't following, the vaccination card has that you've been vaccinated plus four other empty spots. | |
| They knew going in there would be boosters. | |
| They do going in, they plan done at least four boosters. | |
| You know, when I had Peter McCullough on yesterday, what a lot of people don't know and the mainstream media isn't reporting, is that the regeneron and monochronal antibodies also were part of Operation Warp Speed. | |
| And they work. | |
| Joe Rogan took that stuff. | |
| McCullough prescribes it all the time to his people. | |
| You don't need to have vaccination or what we're calling vaccines. | |
| These aren't really vaccines because they don't give you immunization. | |
| You have other things that were discovered and researched and developed and clinically studied that really do work as treatment plans for COVID-19 and all the variants and all the symptoms. | |
| You're not allowed to talk about those because you're not going to make a billion dollars a day or whatever the hell it is if you're Pfizer or or these other companies, Moderna and J, if people are getting other treatments that actually work. | |
| Why exactly would the top government officials in this country keep pushing a shot that those who've already had COVID-19 don't need, those who are not at high risk don't need, those who are not of an age group don't need, those who don't have comorbidities don't need. | |
| Why do they keep on pushing it? | |
| It's a money play. | |
| And now we're going to buy billions and billions of tests for you to test yourself at home. | |
| And I guess if you test positive, Linda, you can you can call the government and say, hey, come and arrest me. | |
| I tested positive and I'm unvaccinated. | |
| I should go to jail. | |
| And the same liberals, David Webb just texted us, our buddy, our mutual friend here, and he said the same liberals who believe that healthcare is a human right, now want to deny Americans health care because they're not vaccinated. | |
| And the same government that wants you to take a shot that they don't know anything about, because it takes five to seven years for it to ever pass FDA clearance, and anybody who knows anything about vaccinations knows that. | |
| Right. | |
| I'm like, well, then give me a free gym membership. | |
| Give me, you know, a whole foods gift card. | |
| I'll go get some fresh lettuce and some fruit. | |
| That's the stuff that costs a fortune. | |
| Make people healthy, and then you're not in a high risk group, and then suddenly we don't have to worry so much about this. | |
| But then there's a lot less money to be made. | |
| A lot of phone calls coming in. | |
| We'll take those for sure. | |
| Make sure that you keep it right here. | |
| 1-800-941 Sean, 1-800-941-7326. | |
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| It's Joe Paggson for Sean Hannity today. | |
| And here's a guy that is always a lightning rod. | |
| Here's a guy that for some reason the left wants to go after it every turn. | |
| And most recently he took the Fifth Amendment in front of this January 6th Commission. | |
| It is Roger Stone himself. | |
| Roger, how are you? | |
| Joe, it's great to be back with you again. | |
| You know, we spoke after you um you you had your sentence commuted or you were pardoned and and you were exuberant, you were having some wine, and it looked like life was going to start to get better for you, maybe a little bit more calm, and you could just relax and enjoy. | |
| No, none of that happened, Roger. | |
| These people on the left have a problem with you, and they can't stop. | |
| Can you tell me on a very general sense what their problem is with you? | |
| Is there something specific you did to Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer or Joe Biden? | |
| Because they just won't leave you alone. | |
| Well, I I think it's probably beating them in presidential election years for presidential elections in over 30 years. | |
| Right. | |
| But then more precisely has been uh the fact that they put ungodly pressure on me to testify falsely against President Trump when they got to the end of the road in their phony Russian collusion hoax and they found no Russian collusion, | |
| they then pressured me, wanting me to claim falsely that some 26 cell phone calls between candidate Trump and myself in 2016 had pertained to the Russians or WikiLeaks and so on. | |
| Right. | |
| I refused to do so. | |
| Uh steadfastly. | |
| Was not going to lie. | |
| They threatened to hit me with superseding charges. | |
| They said I would die in prison if I didn't cooperate. | |
| In other words, lie. | |
| Right. | |
| Uh, and they've never gotten over that. | |
| Actually, they've never gotten over the election of Donald Trump to begin with. | |
| Uh, and now at this point, Joe, I think my name is just clickbait for the left. | |
| Right. | |
| So Salon, the Huffington Post, uh uh uh uh you know, Raw Story, the Daily Beast. | |
| Think about that. | |
| They don't even hide who they are. | |
| Um they know that if they throw my name in a headline, that they can get an enormous number of clicks, and that makes the money. | |
| So that's kind of where we are. | |
| It is uh Roger Stone, former Trump advisor, Stonecold Truth.com. | |
| Go to that website, support the guy, stonecoldtruth.com. | |
| You made a lot of very good points there. | |
| You know, the FBI can lie. | |
| They can lie their faces off, they can they can lie right to you, they can threaten your life, threaten your well-being, threaten your freedom. | |
| Um, yet they were pushing you to lie, and then uh eventually they charged you with lying to them or something to that effect. | |
| It is such a backward system that we have here right now. | |
| So, with that in mind, when you were called in front of the January 6th Commission, you went, and then you said, I'm not telling you anything. | |
| And I love how you explained it. | |
| I'm gonna ask you to explain it again. | |
| Afterwards, you walked up to the cameras and you told them why you took the fifth. | |
| Tell tell Sean's audience right now why it is that you decided not to cooperate with them at all. | |
| Uh, it's really very simple. | |
| I invoked my Fifth Amendment rights, not because I've done anything wrong, not because I knew about or was involved in any way uh regarding the illegal actions of January 6th, but because I have extensive experience with the House Democrats' ability to take and twist uh and fabricate process crimes out of statements that are immaterial, irrelevant, even innocuous. | |
| Adam Schiff is a master at this, and therefore um I took the Fifth Amendment to protect myself from being uh entrapped in yet another fabricated crime. | |
| Not because I've done anything wrong. | |
| Now, the chairman of the committee said on CNN that if you plead the Fifth Amendment, that means you're guilty of something. | |
| That shows that he's guilty of not understanding the U.S. Constitution. | |
| Right. | |
| It's about all it shows. | |
| I mean, of course, you've got the Fifth Amendment right that is in an inherent right given by God, protected by that document that the government can't do exactly what he just did. | |
| So there are always ramifications for those of us who want to tell the truth. | |
| Always ramifications for those of us considered to be on the political right. | |
| Those of the left can say and do anything they want. | |
| I mean, first of all, that that statement about the Fifth Amendment is just stupid and it's without knowledge. | |
| But let's go back to Schiff for a second. | |
| Roger, for four straight years, he lied about Russia collusion. | |
| He lied about you, he lied about Trump, he lied, he lied about uh about that dossier that everybody knew was funded by Hillary Clinton. | |
| They lied to the FISA court. | |
| This guy kept saying, I've got the the proof. | |
| I've got witnesses from Russia that will prove that Trump did this, Stone did this. | |
| He he actually gave nothing. | |
| He lied. | |
| We know he was lying. | |
| Why are there no ramifications for them? | |
| And what do you think can be done? | |
| Um Durham keeps talking a good game. | |
| What do you think should be done when it comes to the lies about you, your family, Trump, his family, and so on? | |
| Well, here's the part most people don't know. | |
| On November 3rd, 2020, the busiest media day of the year, at midnight, by court order and only by court order, the Department of Justice was forced to release the final last long-hidden redacted sections of Mueller's secret report in which he admitted that he had no evidence whatsoever against me regarding Russian collusion, WikiLeaks collaboration, or John Podesta's emails. | |
| So what was my motive to lie? | |
| I had no motive to lie. | |
| Right. | |
| My my entire conviction was fraudulent. | |
| Uh Adam Schiff should waive his congressional immunity so that I can sue him. | |
| I challenge him right here, right now, today. | |
| Wai your congressional immunity so we can go to a court of law and see who's lying and who's telling the truth. | |
| He won't do that, of course. | |
| Only last week, he was caught uh editing selectively text messages uh from uh former governor Rick Perry to Mark Meadows regarding a perfectly reasonable legal theory regarding the electoral college. | |
| Right. | |
| Um he does this kind of stuff all the time, but he pays no price because he hides behind his congressional immunity. | |
| And there was a an altered text message from Jim Jordan to uh Mark Meadows that that just included some some letter that a lawyer was uh was sending to Jordan and and when they were caught screwing with it, Roger, they they said, Wow, it was inadvertent. | |
| We didn't really mean to edit and take out of context that text message. | |
| But they get away with it every single time. | |
| By the way, Roger Stone, Stone Cold Truth.com, make sure you go there. | |
| Um they get away with it every single time, and they've got this congressional immunity. | |
| They can lie, they they could put together a a committee that's nothing more than kabuki theater. | |
| There are no real Republicans on that committee, so therefore I th I feel it's illegal. | |
| But let's go beyond that to your personal life. | |
| We already have it documented on my show, and now we'll do it on Sean's show, where the FBI showed up en masse as if you were some sort of a war um uh enemy, some sort of a war criminal. | |
| They took you away at six, seven o'clock in the morning, they disrupted your neighborhood, your family. | |
| Let's fast forward to just the other day, where Saturday Night Live thinks it's okay to not only attack you, but to attack your wife and to say the most vile things I think I've ever seen. | |
| Roger, why? | |
| Well, what why are you a pincushion? | |
| Why are you the punching bag? | |
| I don't understand why society allows for somebody to be treated like you've been treated. | |
| Yeah, for those of you who who don't know what you refer to, um, a comedian named Michael Shea made a joke that because I declined to cooperate with the January 6th committee, that my wife should be Gang raped by members of the committee. | |
| My wife is a 74-year-old mother and grandmother who is successfully, I'm happy to say, battling stage four cancer. | |
| Uh this is the most tasteless, disgusting, repugnant joke I can think of. | |
| But here's the thing, Joe. | |
| Not a single member of the committee has denounced those comments. | |
| Not one. | |
| Wow. | |
| Not one. | |
| Meanwhile, my wife and I, we did face 17 frivolous, baseless, unsubstantiated but totally sensationalized civil lawsuits against us. | |
| I have prevailed in eleven. | |
| I still have six more to go. | |
| People can go to Stone Defense Fund dot com, Stone Defense Fund dot com, because this is lawfair. | |
| They wear you down with with heavy legal fees, they smear you in legal uh documents that are written more like a press release. | |
| There's no evidence, there's no proof, there's no wrongdoing, it's just harassment. | |
| You know why? | |
| Because I won't quit. | |
| That's why. | |
| I'll never quit. | |
| That's why. | |
| I will always fight for this country, and I will always stand up for the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln, and they hate that. | |
| And that's why I think I am a victim. | |
| It's uh Roger Stone, former Trump advisor. | |
| It's Stone Defense.com. | |
| That's the website you want them to go to? | |
| Stone Defense Fund is actually Stone Defense Fund.com or Stone Defense Fund.com, either one, Stone Legal Defense Fund.com, they'll both take you to the same place. | |
| Okay. | |
| I need help. | |
| I admit it. | |
| Mother took, you know, my home, my car, my savings, my insurance, my ability to make a living for 18 months. | |
| And frankly, I had underestimated the extent to which the cancel culture, the deplatforming, would make it difficult to get back on my feet financially. | |
| Uh, but I'll never quit as long as the people support me. | |
| And sixty-five thousand people have prayed for me and my family, have contributed to my legal defense fund. | |
| God bless you, and Merry Christmas to you, Patriots. | |
| Yeah, and thank God that your wife is succeeding against uh cancer. | |
| We'll keep on on praying for her and for you, Roger. | |
| Let me let me ask you very directly in the last minute or so that we have. | |
| January 6th, President Trump was speaking as the breach happened at the Capitol. | |
| Did you have anything to do with telling people to go to the Capitol and riot and burn things and break things? | |
| Absolutely positively not, Joe. | |
| But what's particularly interesting is I never left my hotel room or grounds on that day. | |
| You weren't even there. | |
| I was not even there, wasn't on the ellipse, didn't march to the Capitol, wasn't at the Capitol. | |
| However, minutes after the president finished speaking, I got a phone call in my hotel room from the Secret Service offering to escort me to the Capitol. | |
| Right. | |
| Which I declined. | |
| Wow. | |
| Had I done so, I would have gotten there at the exact moment that the Capitol was breached. | |
| Yes, this smells like a setup to me. | |
| Well, why would the committee why would the committee call you in then, Roger, if you weren't there? | |
| Was is their allegation that you somehow had something to do with setting it up? | |
| Because that thing was it was not set up. | |
| When they rioted, when they broke things, when they breached, it wasn't an insurrection, there wasn't a uh an attack on our democracy. | |
| It was a bunch of idiots that did something stupid, and some video shows that there could have been some feds involved in luring them into doing it. | |
| What is their suggestion that you're some sort of mastermind that made that happen? | |
| How dumb would that be? | |
| What happened on Jan What happened on January 6th? | |
| You and I know this. | |
| Hell it helped Biden. | |
| It didn't help Trump. | |
| So I mean it's dumb to even suggest it. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| That's exactly right. | |
| So unfortunately, if you read my subpoena, which they've made public, it is their contention that the perfectly legal, constitutionally protected activities of January 5th, including free speech, the right to free assembly, the right to redress the government for grievances, that that led to that that caused the illegal actions at the Capitol. | |
| I reject that analysis. | |
| Uh and I think it's it's disturbing that they want to investigate and I think intimidate perfectly legal political activity. | |
| They're trying to criminalize it. | |
| So the idea that I was some kind of mastermind, let's be very clear. | |
| Any claim or assertion or even implication that I knew about or was involved in any way in the activities of the Capitol on January 6th is categorically false. | |
| And I have no information about it to give. | |
| But I'm not stupid enough to go before the House Committee and let them frame me again in some uh complex process crime, which is what Adam Schiff and his buddies excel at. | |
| Last question for Roger Stone. | |
| I appreciate you taking the time. | |
| And the last question has to be this. | |
| Is it as obvious as they're just afraid of Trump running and winning again? | |
| Is that why Roger two impeachments and now the stupid commission? | |
| Is that the only issue they're trying to avoid that Donald Trump can run again? | |
| Because if he runs again, he's going to win again. | |
| That's precisely it, Joe. | |
| You have just put your finger on it. | |
| They still can't get over 2016. | |
| So they're worried about Donald Trump beating them for the third time, in my opinion. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And they understand that there is nobody that can rally the voter coalition that he can. | |
| If you look at Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, uh, a handful of states states that Trump won, that Mitt Romney lost. | |
| Donald Trump has an ability to attract blue-collar working class Democrats and independents like no one the Republican Party has ever nominated. | |
| They fear him because they fear he is going to come back. | |
| And as a patriot, they understand that he's deeply disturbed by what's going on in this country. | |
| He can make inroads in the African American community. | |
| He can make inroads in the Hispanic community that no other Republican can do. | |
| Yeah, he did. | |
| They're scared to death that he's going to run again. | |
| Roger, I couldn't agree with you more. | |
| I appreciate you taking the time. | |
| Best of luck to you. | |
| Let's stay in contact. | |
| And I and I believe you've got one of the strongest backbones of anybody I've seen in America in a very long time. | |
| Safe travels to you. | |
| I know that you're on the way to go do some stuff. | |
| And uh let's talk again soon, can we? | |
| Uh absolutely, Joe. | |
| Great to be with you. | |
| And as you know, I'm half Sicilian. | |
| Explains everything. | |
| So we're Pisons. | |
| All right. | |
| Roger, I appreciate you. | |
| It's Roger Stone. | |
| Go to stonecoldtruth.com, and we're back after this on the Sean Hannity show. | |
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