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Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh our friend, um chief of staff and former congressman, former chairman of the Freedom Caucus, uh Mark Meadows is going to join us.
His book is phenomenal.
I got a copy.
I've been reading it.
I can't put it down.
It's a page turner.
You know, unlike all these hate Trump books that have been out there.
I mean, you get a real insider's view of the real Donald Trump.
Uh rumors that there might be a schism between Mark Meadows and the president.
I don't believe any of it, but we'll ask Mark in a second.
You know, just before we do, though, it's important to understand what both Mark Meadows was up against as chief of staff and what the president's been up against.
And this is just a small snippet of the media mob attacking Trump just last year alone.
It was evident within the first 24 hours that by taking out Cossum Suleimani, Trump has made the situation worse, and that's dangerous for our country.
His decision to strike Salani has the result of endangering U.S. troops and embassies and diplomats everywhere.
When they um dispersed protesters in Lafayette Park the other day when the president wanted his photo off.
Police fired tear gas on peaceful protests outside the White House.
Also Donald Trump could stage a photo op.
Because the president literally wanted a photo off after all this tear gas had been sprayed on U.S. American citizens.
When he's saying don't test people because then the number of cases will go up.
I mean, that that's Chernobyl level gaslighting.
I mean, when coronavirus broke out in China, people said this is China's Chernobyl.
Well, actually, it's Donald Trump's Chernobyl.
You've called this his Chernobyl.
What the Iran hostage crisis was in the final year of Carter's presidency.
This may be Donald Trump's Katrina.
Looks like a Hurricane Katrina moment.
What happened to Katrina?
This is a virus that came from the territory of China, but came from bats.
This is a bat virus, not a uh a China virus.
Uh it doesn't speak Chinese.
The President says, uh no, this is not racist at all.
When of course it's nakedly racist and obviously racist and blatantly racist.
Do you think President Trump is responsible for the deaths of Americans?
What is President Trump's level of culpability?
Do you think there is blood on the president's hands, considering the slow response?
After death, after death, that is on the president's watch.
The Wuhan Lab.
We know that it's been debunked.
Those same agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of Trump World's most favorite conspiracy theories.
And there's no debate here.
Among serious people, there is no debate.
This was most likely what we call a zoonotic disease.
It went from animal to human, likely in a market at in Wuhan.
It's not uncommon.
Experts are warning that kind of timeline may be overly ambitious, and some have even argued it's perhaps dangerous.
Will we get the best vaccine in this timetable?
Uh, or will we just get a vaccine?
And then of course they attacked Him, you know, since he came down the escalator with Melania at Trump Tower.
Anyway, it's called The Chiefs Chief.
It's on Amazon.com.
It's in bookstores everywhere as of today, Hannity.com.
We've got a link up.
Uh it's a phenomenal read.
And Mark Meadows, my friend, joins us right now.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well, Sean, and thanks so much uh for having me on.
And uh quite frankly, thanks for always letting the American people know what the truth is, uh, because you won't find it with the left wing media.
No, you really won't, and that's only a small sampling we just played.
Well, let me first get to the issue, the reports that were out today that Donald Trump is angry at you for writing a book.
This book is positive about Donald Trump.
Oh, it it's it's uh a real positive story about the president.
Uh in fact, I wrote it with that in mind to try to make sure that all those that have had to put up and hold their nose for all the left-leaning uh negative uh books that have come out from from Washington Post reporters or you name it.
Uh I wanted to make sure that everybody understood how what a great leader he is, the accomplishments he's made, uh, and uh and so you know, any suggestion that the president and I are uh there's a wedge between us is just not accurate.
When's the last time he spoke to the president?
Probably today or well, I haven't talked to him today, but I've talked to him over the last couple of days, and we you know we continue to stay in very close contact, and I'm I'm uh I'm his number one fan, we'll continue to be his number one fan, and hopefully uh people who read this book understand that.
You know, it it's interesting um because I I read the story, the your accounting uh before the first debate with Joe Biden that there was a false positive.
You you reported as a false positive uh that the president had.
He took another test that comes back negative, and he didn't have COVID at that time.
That's correct.
But the way the media writes it is, oh my God, he put Joe Biden's life in jeopardy.
I'm like, no, he popped a false positive, which has happened to many people I know.
Well, it's happened to a lot of people, and and here's the interesting thing is they give Joe Biden a pass and they they paint the president in the most negative light, and by the president I'm talking about President Trump uh in the most negative light as they possibly can.
So not only did we get a confirmatory test that he was not positive then we got actually got one before and after the debate.
And so, you know, uh it it's amazing how they've run with it and and uh tried to to make it as uh if President Trump was not responsible.
And and quite frankly, here here's what it shows is the president, regardless of where he was, how he was feeling, even during COVID, he worked morning, noon, and night for the country because he loves this country and quite frankly wants to deliver on behalf of it.
You know, I mean that's the thing that I think really defines, and I guess now with eleven months plus of Biden, we can now see it more clearly than ever, and that is uh I tried to warn the country last year, and I wrote my first book in ten years.
I don't want to write any more books.
It's too hard as you now know.
And and I wrote it live free or die, America and the world on the brink.
We're now at the on the brink part.
And if you look at everything from abandoning Americans in Afghanistan, you see now, you know, look at Iran, sanctions are lifted.
Look at the look at what's happening with China and the threatening of Taiwan and flying fighter jets over Taiwan airspace and threatening reunification.
Look at Putin's uh troop buildup along the border with Ukraine.
None of that happened under Donald Trump, and I haven't mentioned energy independence, a secure border, lower taxes, less bureaucracy, uh the judges he said he would appoint.
All of that is in this book, and you bring us behind the scenes in this.
Well, I bring you behind the scenes, but you're right.
All of that is behind the book because what he did truly in his first term was historic.
Uh he was able to to not only get wins, but get wins both domestically and with foreign policy.
Can you think of any president in the history of our country that was able to get tax cuts and a deal with Middle East leaders for peace all in the same four years?
No.
You can you find one that can do it in eight years?
No.
And so I mean, here are the accomplishments that this president was able to put forth.
We try to to do uh uh uh outline that not only outline that in the book, but give it a little bit of flavor.
I mean, you know, what what I didn't want to do is uh just come in and uh and go chronologically so we we weave a number of different stories in there.
I can also you talk about energy dominance, Sean.
I can remember when the president, and it's in this book uh when the president literally got Vladimir Putin and the King of Saudi Arabia on the line negotiating in real time to make sure that we saved uh American oil workers' jobs.
And uh and that's the kind of leader we have, and it's the kind of leader that I was able to uh honorably serve and and have the privilege of serving.
And by the way, the book is called The Chief's Chief.
Uh you can get a first print edition uh before Christmas.
You can even get it as early as Wednesday, December 15th of your order today on Amazon.com.
Uh but you're gonna want to read this book because he was up close and personal the entire time.
Um I noticed that it over the summer of 2020 there were five hundred and thirty-five riots, as you know.
We lost dozens of American lives.
We had thousands of police officers injured, pelted with bricks, rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, and worse.
Uh we had billions of dollars in property damage.
Democrats, the media ignored those riots.
By the way, and January 6th, I know you condemned it.
I condemned it.
What happened that day?
Can't happen.
We've got to protect our elected officials.
But it seems that, you know, Washington only cares about the one riot.
I want to stop riots everywhere.
And I don't know why Liz Cheney is now partnered with the people that called her dad a war criminal and a murderer and a crook with Halliburton.
Um, but she has.
Where's the committee looking into those riots in the summer of 2020?
Where where where is that investigation?
Well, they're not doing that, and and as you know, I I outlined some of that in the book where the president really was was interacting with different governors, uh trying to give them additional assistance.
Uh but the January 6th committee obviously has their own agenda.
Uh, you know, uh news today, as as you well know, uh we were trying to find uh uh an accommodation to help them out uh with non-privileged uh information.
It became apparent over the last uh uh couple of days that they still wanted me to talk about things that were covered uh under executive privilege that President Trump has claimed.
Uh I can't do that.
Uh that's not for me to waive, and it's not for Congress to waive.
And uh we also found out that they had subpoenaed a third party uh uh uh uh telephone vendor uh asking for all the documents, did not let us know that.
And so uh we made the decision today to to no longer cooperate, and so who knows where this leads, but you know, honestly, we do condemn what happened on January sixth, but I can tell you no one in the West Wing had any advanced knowledge that there was going to be a breach of security at the Capitol.
I mean, uh in fact the President did all he could do to make sure that we were well prepared for a safe uh rally on January sixth.
Once they kicked off our mutual friend Jim Jordan from the committee and they got rid of Jim Banks from the committee, I knew at that point that this was a sham show committee, that Liz Cheney, you know, you picked the biggest Trump hater of Republicans you can find.
Uh we know that this is a predetermined outcome.
We now have whistleblowers saying that in fact that the National Guard were told to stand down.
Uh the President said that they many of you will peacefully and patriotically uh march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
Nobody wants to remember those words.
Um my understanding is I think in a previous interview with you is that that the president before the event started days before requested that that National Guard troops be available for 10,000 National Guard troops, uh, you know, at least 48 hours uh before uh before.
Yeah.
So the president requested National Guard troops.
The chief of police for the Capitol Police requested them before the event.
And then during this this these riots that did take place, which we can't allow to have happen, we now have a whistleblower saying that stand down orders were given at that time.
Is that gonna be in the predetermined outcome version uh of Liz Cheney?
I doubt it.
Well, you know, listen, this, you know, it needs to have a valid legislative purpose, and it doesn't have a valid legislative purpose at this point.
You know, what we what all of us want to make sure that what happened on January 6th doesn't happen again.
And yet uh what we continue to see over and over and over again is um uh a political narrative that that really is not about passing laws.
Yeah, it's just uh I'll move on from this, but it's fascinating to me to watch Liz Cheney now partner with uh the very people that referred to her father as a war criminal, as a murderer, Bush Cheney lied, people died, Halliburton, and um and the worst foreign policy or the greatest foreign policy weakness we've I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Quick break more with Mark Meadows.
His new book is out.
You can get a first print edition at Hanity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere, the Chief's Chief.
Uh, and we'll get your calls, get to your calls at the bottom of the half hour, 800-941 Sean.
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It represented a milestone for both researchers and patients.
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I'm Evan Ratliff, and together with biographer Walter Isaacson, we're delving into the story of Nobel Prize winner Jennifer Dowdna, the woman who's helped change the trajectory of humanity.
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So We continue with former chief of staff, former Congressman Mark Meadows.
His new book is out.
It's an insider view of the Trump White House, not distorted by the mob and the media and people with agendas.
Anyway, it's called The Chief's Chief, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, Bookstores Everywhere.
Now, what are the things that really stand out to you?
Things that you know about the president working closely with him that others don't that you talk about in the book.
Well, one of the the uh the misnomers that I actually correct is his work ethic.
Uh the the guy worked me under the table over and over and over again.
By the way, I know that to be a fact.
He he he uh he worked at all hours of the morning, noon, night, you name it, he was working it.
And uh and what I found fascinating is is that not only did he have a good work ethic, but a tremendous uh memory, uh the ability to to recall things, and what he wanted was advisors that would give him different points of view.
You know, there are a lot of people who say, well, he just wanted somebody to come in and tell him what he wanted to hear.
That's not the case, and I think that uh, you know, the way that he made decisions and made quick decisions is something that benefit uh that the American people benefited from.
I'll tell you, it's an insider's view that most people have never heard before.
Uh it's extra extraordinarily well done.
It's called the Chief's Chief.
It's on Amazon.com if you want a first print edition.
It's uh available now.
Uh you can even get fast delivery by December 15th.
Certainly you can get it as a gift for somebody for Christmas um by going to Amazon.com.
It's in bookstores everywhere as of today.
And we have a link on Hannity.com if you want to go there.
Uh, I say it's a must read for people that really want to know the behind the scenes of the Trump White House, not distorted by the mob and the media in the Democratic Party.
So, congratulations.
Love the book.
Uh, Mark Meadows, thank you for being with us.
Thanks, my friend.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
All right, eight years.
God bless.
You too.
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When news broke earlier this year that baby KJ, a newborn in Philadelphia, had successfully received the world's first personalized gene editing treatment.
It represented a milestone for both researchers and patients.
But there's a gripping tale of discovery behind this accomplishment and its creators.
I'm Evan Ratliff, and together with biographer Walter Isaacson, we're delving into the story of Nobel Prize winner Jennifer Dowdna, the woman who's helped change the trajectory of humanity.
Listen to Aunt Crisper, the story of Jennifer Dowdna with Walter Isaacson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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