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Rudy Giuliani - November 24th, Hour 3
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J-O-E-P-A-G-S that's dot C O M. In the past week, less than a week, we've had two major jury uh trial verdicts come out.
And I think both were righteous.
I want to talk to this guy about that.
I also want to talk to him about Bernard Kerrick.
I want to talk to him about executive privilege and a whole lot more.
It is my friend, America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy, how are you?
I'm great, Pags.
How are you?
I'm living the dream, man.
This is just an absolute honor to be in for Sean today, our mutual friend, and to have you on the program was a no-brainer for me.
Uh I want to get right into these verdicts in in the limited time we have.
Let's quit.
Yeah, sure.
They're amazing.
Well, they were.
We we had a couple of verdicts, and I think that we would agree we're probably correct, both in in Kyle Rittenhouse's case and the case of the killing of uh of Ahmad Arbery in Georgia.
Are you are you with me that those juries made the right decisions?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, you know, um the way I look at verdicts, I guess, first is as a lawyer, and that is is the jury verdict uh supported by the evidence?
Whether you agree with it or not.
And the answer is in both cases, yes.
Now I happen to agree with it, but uh neither case would be reversed by a court because the verdict is against the weight of the evidence.
In in um in the Written House case, it was almost uh I mean the case should have been dismissed, I think.
The prosecution evidence proved self-defense before you even got to the defense.
That's such a great point.
The prosecution literally won the case for Kyle Rittenhouse.
Yes, I mean he testified because I mean, obviously he's a very when he testified, you couldn't tell as much, but I listened to the interview last night on Tucker.
Yeah.
He's a bright kid.
Yes.
I mean this is a very smart kid.
It's not a um he's not a, you know.
He's obviously very, very smart.
He has a very good recollection.
And he uh before you even got to his case, basically the guy the guy who was shot and survived, said I pointed the gun at him.
Right.
You think it's gonna happen?
You run after the guy, you can't you catch up to him, and then you point a gun at him.
What do you think he's gonna do?
Uh totally crazy.
And also the tape was very, very helpful.
You know, it's interesting.
Both cases, I think that the the video really decided the case.
Well, I want to I want to ask you about that.
I want to ask you about that at length in a second.
It's Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor.
Let me ask you something very specific about the Written House case.
Knowing the video evidence you had, knowing that the one guy that Was shot, admits that he pointed the gun at him, knowing you know that he was there putting out fires, and we have uh pictures and video of him cleaning up the local high school, he wasn't there starting trouble and provoking things.
As the prosecutor, Rudy, would you would you have brought charges here?
They did a great, they set a grand jury in 48 hours and charged the kid.
No.
I mean, I not only not only can I say that uh hypothetically, I once had a chance to prosecute Bernard Getz.
Uh people might not remember who he is, but he was the subway shooter who shot four people who threatened him.
Right.
And uh the DA in Manhattan asked me to take it as a civil rights case.
And I listened to I listened to all the evidence.
I went through all the evidence with my with one of my assistants, and we said, no, we're not going to bring the case because it's a it's a perfect defense of self-defense.
Right.
I would have done the same thing here.
I would not have brought this case.
Looking at the tape, he's or the video, he's constantly running away.
And the prosecutors are actually at one point they're telling the jury that he's the aggressor.
And the jury is looking at a is looking at a video of him running away.
Right.
How does an aggressor run away?
That's crazy.
In watching this guy Binger, the assistant DA in uh in that case, in watching this guy, um, he he violated the second amendment, he violated the the the Fifth Amendment, he violated the Sixth Amendment.
I mean, I mean they and you told me on my show the other day, I'll steal your line.
You said he only had seven more to go uh to violate.
And then and then in closing arguments, Rudy, he puts his finger on the trigger of this rifle and points it at the jury.
I mean, what would you have done?
You if you're the lead prosecutor, you if you're still in the Southern District of New York and your assistant DA does that, what do you do?
I fire him.
Yeah, right.
I have to fire him.
I mean, the guy obviously has to do something else.
I remember I was a law clerk to a federal judge, and when he was a very great judge, Lloyd McMahon, but he had a great sense of humor.
And when a lawyer really screwed up like that, he would call him up to the bench and he would say, uh, where did you go to law school?
The guy said, I I went to uh St. John's.
He said, Call him and get your money back.
I mean, this guy did everything wrong times eight.
It was very strange.
He did.
Holding back evidence, Rudy.
They had HD video that they that they held and they gave 480p SD video to the to the defense.
I mean, that in and of itself is disparment, isn't it?
He's holding he's holding discovery back.
Yeah, I mean, every every every error a prosecutor can make, they make.
And uh, if they had for some strange reason convicted him, there's no court of appeals that would have upheld that verdict.
It's Rudy Julian.
I think well, I think the judge could have could have declared a mistrial that was requested, but he didn't have to, because he was found not guilty.
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He's America's mayor, will always be for me.
Uh go ahead.
And tell him who the star of this one is.
The star of this podcast is some doofus on the radio, Joe Paggs talking about Thanksgiving.
So go back talking about Thanksgiving, but uh it's actually it's actually uh what I use it for, I do a defense of Thanksgiving.
You know, there are there's a whole big movement now to cancel Thanksgiving.
It's sick.
Because of all of the of all of the uh uh Native Americans that were killed by white people.
The only problem is the pilgrims had an exceptionally good relationship with the Native Americans.
Right.
They had a peace treaty that lasted for 50 years, and they are a perfect example if you want to be honest with someone.
They're the perfect example how you know uh most people are good, decent people.
Of course, there were some people who came over that killed Native Americans.
Uh and there were also some Native Americans that were killing people too.
It's not like they were a peaceful people, there was no violence, you know.
Yes, and also, you know, it's not unusual conduct.
I mean, every country has a history of somebody coming in invading and taking over.
Uh Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, all throughout Africa, Asia.
This is what happened uh, you know, in times before we became uh more civilized.
And we're the only country we're the only country that has to somehow, you know, feel regret over it and be punished uh, you know, forever about it.
It's Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy, I've only got about three or four minutes left, but I want to get into a couple of very important things.
Number one, um, is it your belief, and I think you started alluding to this earlier, that without video, these two verdicts could have gone exactly the opposite, right?
Could be.
You never know.
You never know what would have happened.
Absolutely right.
Particularly in the uh Rittenhouse case, the prosecutors were so uh dishonest.
I mean, how how can I put it any other way?
I mean, they who knows what they would have made up.
In the other case, the prosecutor was excellent.
Don her name is uh Donolowski.
Right.
Right.
I I listened to a lot of her summation, and I uh uh she was terrific.
I mean she uh took every argument, used it really well, and in Aubrey's case, the the key testimony was when uh uh McMichael said, you know, he came back at me and went for the gun.
Now there's no video proof of that.
Right.
And basically her argument was that's kind of ridiculous.
The guy's been running away from you all day.
Right.
Right.
All of a sudden, when there's no video, he turns around and tries to grab your gut and you killed.
They literally chased him down and ended up killing him.
Uh, you couldn't be more right.
And I thank God there is video.
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
And they and they had no good answer.
Well, we thought he was burglarizing houses in the neighborhood.
That doesn't make any sense.
Rudy, I gotta ask you about uh uh about a couple of people when it comes to executive privilege.
You and I talked about this recently.
Steve Bannon is not a is not asking for executive privilege, and Bernard Carrick is not asking for executive privilege.
Donald Trump is, who was the president at the time, and he gets executive privilege through a an executive order, I believe, signed by Obama that all previous presidents can claim executive privilege.
What's the controversy here?
The controversy is that they want to have a show.
They they the uh January 6th narrative is fading.
It's turning out to be largely, you know, uh sure they did something wrong, but they made it into the crime of the century, worse than 9-11, right, uh, worse in Pearl Harbor, worse than I don't know what.
Meanwhile, not not a single shot was fired by the protesters.
The only shot fired was by a cop who looks like he murdered somebody.
Right.
And uh so that they they they they had this is their ace in the holes that destroy Trump.
And all of a sudden the whole thing is falling apart.
Well, it is because they they're lying, they're lying about Kerrick and and they're lying, they're provably lying about Kerry.
You've got Bob Woodward, you've got video, you've got proof that he was nowhere near the scene.
So why did they think they were gonna get away with that, Rudy?
I mean, fill me in on what you know of this when this started unfolding.
Because they have gotten away with it in the past.
Look at what uh Shifty Shits has gotten away with.
Yeah.
And he's still on the committee.
There's a video tape.
There's a video tape of him holding up a piece of paper saying, I got two witnesses, direct evidence of Trump and Russian collusion.
Well, where are they, jerk?
Where are they?
Well, Rudy, I'd like to I'd like to interview them.
Can can you get me those two names?
I'd like to have them on the show.
Yeah, I mean, uh there wasn't what happened to those two names.
They're gone.
They were fictitious.
So so what's the recourse here as an attorney?
Carrick is is being defamed.
He's been they're they're slandering him, they're lying about him.
He was clearly nowhere near that meeting on January 6th.
What do you do here?
Can we can we, as the American people call government on the carpet when they lie to us?
Yeah, I mean, he actually uh he actually has a pretty good lawsuit against it.
What is it?
The Washington Post, right?
The Washington Post published the uh the excerpt uh from Woodward's book that Woodward said is not an excerpt from his book.
The word word clearly said that is not in my book, I don't know what you're talking about.
I mean, and that's that's completely nuts.
But let's assume let's assume that's all correct.
I haven't read, I haven't I'd like to see that in writing, but if that's all correct, then uh that's a loss.
That's a heck of a lawsuit.
I mean, how how can they say something's in a book that's that's easily verifiable?
How can they say somebody say somebody's at a meeting that's it's easy to verify he wasn't at the meeting?
It boggles my mind, Rudy.
Yeah, I'd have it.
I haven't seen that in writing yet.
I want to see that.
But that is absolutely amazing.
But you're asking me how would they get how would the committee get away with that?
The committee has no restraint because they have no accountability.
The press lets them do anything they want.
I mean, look at the crimes that the Bidens get away with.
Right.
Every week we get a new crime.
Here Here, our biggest adversary in the world is China.
And now there's no doubt that what I was saying last year is true.
The Biden family made millions from China.
Which is so happy that our president was a defense.
Of course.
I mean, I thought the article came out yesterday about the about the uh uh the transactions with the Chinese company that Hunter Biden did and completed.
And uh the and the the commitment of one billion and then one point five billion dollars into Hunter Biden's ridiculous private equity company, which used to have as a partner whitey bowls his nephew.
It's stunning.
The information you have on your own.
Right.
Which is part of the Chinese communist government.
What you have yourself through your own investigation and what we have from Hunter Biden's hard drives is stunning.
This is something that can make a journalism career, but they refuse to cover it.
Rudy, I gotta run.
I appreciate you more than you know.
Thank you so much.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Right back at you.
Thank you for making the time today, my friend.
I appreciate the America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani coming on.
There's so much more to talk to him about.
We didn't even start to scratch the surface.
We'll have him on again very soon.
Your thoughts when we come back.
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Hi, my name's Nancy.
I'm from uh Waco, Texas, and I just had uh state oh I'm sorry.
No, go ahead.
Oh, I just wanted to make a comment about your Washington Post comment.
You asked why would they put something like that out there uh that they didn't verify, and it's because they don't have any real journalists anymore.
And my in my opinion, they no longer care about what they're doing to the people they're talking about.
Uh well, I thought I think you're right.
I mean, a journalist uh the break down the word journalism or journalist.
It means to cover the day.
It's your job to go out there and cover it.
See tell me what you saw, you smelled, you felt, you you you you tasted, whatever it happens to be, and then report it to me because you kept a journal of what it was you saw.
They don't do that anymore.
What they're doing is they're going out and ignoring facts and only reporting what it is they think will do better uh best for them.
And if that doesn't exist, clearly they've shown they'll make it up.
And yes, it was a Washington Post report that this committee was was basing its its allegation that Bernard Carrick was at this meeting when he was nowhere near it.
That's a problem for the post.
It's a problem for the committee.
In fact, that commission should be disbanded now because it was based on big fat lion lies.
But what do I know?
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It's my honor to be with you the day before Thanksgiving.
It's my honor to have my very good friend on a guy you probably have heard of, a former uh former uh captain with the Colombo Crime Family Capo Regime is Michael Franzese.
Michael, how are you?
Joe, I'm great.
Always uh always great to be with you, my friend.
Yeah, it's an absolute pleasure.
You know, Michael and I became fast friends, and we've done a bunch of stuff online.
We've done a bunch of stuff on my show, and um you've got a couple of big projects coming out that I want people to know about.
Number one is Mafia Democracy.
It's your new book.
You've got several books out now.
Go to Michael Franzese.com and check out everything he writes.
Uh, he's gone from mobster to pastor.
We'll get into that a little bit here in the time that we have.
But Mafia Democracy really does ring true because we're seeing uh a fascist feel from Washington, D.C. and even from City Hall in New York City, where you've got power and control is ruling the day.
When you say Mafia Democracy, you're literally talking about our government acting like the mob, right?
No question, Joe.
You know, I I've never witnessed in my lifetime what this government is looking now.
And for me, it's very Machiavellian.
And you know, Machiavelli on the street, he was kind of the patron saint of the mob.
We did everything in a Machiavellian way.
And I see our government acting exactly like that in so many ways.
And I point that out uh, you know, very strategically in the book, Joe.
I mean, this is not a fluff piece.
It's not a uh, you know, I did a lot of research on this.
I lived that life.
I worked with politicians way back when.
And what I'm seeing now, I never thought that I would see this type of ideology in our government, but it's happening today.
And the way that it's happening, do you see it the same way you remember planning things as a captain of a bunch of soldiers in the in the crime family?
And what I mean by that is you guys sold uh a pretty good pitch to the community, to the news media.
You guys pretended you weren't really what you were, and that facade worked for a really long time until like Giuliani came along and said, No, no, no, we could probably do something about this.
But is it the same sort of thing, Michael?
Let me tell you what you should think of me, but ignore what we're really doing.
Joe, let me tell you a Machiavellian ideology or philosophy, and that is that you know, when you're in control and you're in power, what Machiavelli has said, you can do anything you need to do to maintain control.
You can lie, you can steal, you can cheat, you could even kill anything that you need to do.
However, to the outside public, you must always appear to be upright, honest, and have integrity.
That's our government.
I hate to say it.
I'm not happy about it.
Yeah.
You know, I I love this country.
I have kids and grandchildren that I want to them to enjoy, you know, the freedoms that so many of us before them jo enjoyed.
But what I'm seeing now, it's it's frightening.
And that's how these people are acting.
I've never seen such underhandedness.
I've never seen such divisiveness in our nation.
And you know, it all starts from the top.
When they start name-calling each other and doing all of these things that they're doing, it it goes down into the general public and into society.
It starts from the top.
And if these people would just act with some integrity and act honestly, I don't think we'd see the divisiveness that we see on the street today.
And I really mean that.
Is it hard?
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It's not yet, right, Michael, but it will be very soon.
Yeah, just before Christmas, it'll be available for pre-order, yes.
Called Mafia Democracy.
Going and make sure that you you get to his website and find out exactly what it's coming out.
Is it hard to do, or does it become second nature?
here's what I mean.
You know what you're doing behind the scenes.
You know what you have to look like you're doing to the public and to the media and so on.
I mean, for God's sakes, you are producing movies while there is all sorts of racketeering and everything else going on behind the scenes.
Is it easy or does it become second nature?
It's second nature, Joe.
Oh.
Honestly, you know, when you when you have that kind of a mindset, it's it's really second nature to you.
And uh, it was to me on the street.
I'm recognizing it now.
You know, and obviously, like I said, I'm seeing it unfold in our government halls, and it's uh it's it's very disturbing to me.
It really is.
You know, people tell me all the time, you know, if the mafia was running the country, we would be in better shape, and I say, no, you don't want the mafia running the country.
That's not the way it's supposed to be.
We're supposed to have a this is a republic where government is honest and and upright, and they really do have integrity, and they do care about the people that elected them to office.
And it's not that way.
And I I just don't understand how people don't see this.
I don't get it.
Here's the thing that jumps out at me, and it's Michael Franzi's former Kappa regime, the Colombo Crime Family in New York.
What jumps out at me is and you and I have talked about this a lot.
The mob got mad when the government wasn't righteous.
It's almost like you guys had a higher standard for the government.
All right, you catch me, FBI, you do it on the up and up, you don't frame me, you you do it legally, you got me.
I'll put my hands out in front of me.
But you're still mad about how your father was convicted, and you're convinced that he was framed.
I mean, that there really is sort of a uh a code within the life.
You call it that life.
Uh the code is the government can get you as long as they do the right job.
That's why you never really went after cops.
You never really went after Rudy, although there was a conversation about it.
You really did intent if you have integrity and you got us, fair and square, let's go, right?
No doubt, Joe.
We the way we looked at it, we were on one side, you are on the other.
You do your job, you get us legitimately, we have no beef, we have no complaint.
But if you frame us, if you stoop down to a street level and you're breaking the law, you know, and even at times not only breaking the law, but creating criminal activity in order to nail somebody, uh we didn't appreciate that.
And I don't think anybody should.
You know, what people don't understand, if you give the government an inch, they'll take a yard and they'll never give it back.
If you allow them to break the law to go after somebody that they really want to get, well, that could apply to anybody.
They don't like somebody.
Okay, we're gonna do whatever we have to do to get them to put them away.
We know that happens, Joe.
I'm I'm sure you know that happens.
Look, it does.
Uh what happened in in uh the four years of Trump's presidency, if people didn't see what was really going on, whether you like Trump or not, it doesn't matter.
But when you saw what was going on with all this Russia gate and everything else, it it was criminal activity that was going on in the in the halls of justice.
I mean, that's the bottom line.
We know for a fact that Russia Gate was fake, the dossier was fake, the impeachments were based on nothing, but a guy won, a guy got a position the mafia democracy didn't like.
And again, there were listen, there were Republicans who were against them too.
This wasn't just the Democrat versus Republican thing.
This was big government mafia swamp versus an outsider who said, Hey, why don't we do this thing that we thought we were gonna do as a republic?
And that's really the that's the bottom line, right?
I mean, it the swamp monsters come from all colors.
Oh, no, no doubt about it.
You know, while we're talking about that, I just have to mention this whole Rittenhouse case.
You know, Joe, not for anything.
I didn't know much about the case, I didn't follow it.
But I I get intrigued when I see, you know, trials taking place on television, obviously my background, I'm interested in it.
Right.
And when you watched the trial and the evidence that was presented by the prosecution, and you f you before that had listened to mainstream media, you would have thought this kid was, you know, the devil incarnate, white supremacists went there to shoot everybody, cross state lines with guns that were illegal.
It was absolutely untrue, all false.
When you looked at the evidence that was presented in this case, the jury came out with the right verdict.
And people are still complaining about it.
And I don't get it.
I really don't understand why.
What are they trying to do?
What are people trying to accomplish in this country by spreading false information, misinformation, starting all this racial stuff?
Joe, I I'm telling you, I never thought in My lifetime, I would see things, you know, get to this level.
I mean it.
Well, it's it's a great question, but I know that it's rhetorical because you know the answer.
It's about power and control.
It's about controlling the message, controlling the power, controlling the people, and then they can do whatever you want them to do, and they'll keep on voting for you.
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Let's talk about the Mafia States of America.
This is uh uh an historic sit-down between you and Sammy the Bull Gravano, who was the underboss for John Gotti um in the Gambino uh crime family.
Well, what's interesting to me is that little few few people know that you knew Sammy because Sammy used to be in the Colombo family.
Um I had no idea until you and I started talking about this.
Were you guys friends?
Did you know him?
Did you hang out?
Did you dislike him?
What's the relationship there?
Sammy and I were not friends.
Uh I wouldn't consider us friends now.
You know, this uh sit down got kind of contentious.
You know, Sammy still feels he's the underboss in a way, and and uh, you know, he acts a certain way, and I act a different way.
So, you know, I I think uh it's it's historic in that it was a real sit-down.
It wasn't staged, it wasn't scripted.
Uh I think you can tell throughout that we didn't really care for each other that much.
We have a whole different idea of cousin orstra and what it was about then, what it is now.
And um, you know, Patrick Ben David was in the middle of this.
He hosted it.
At times it got very contentious between us.
And uh I think people are gonna enjoy seeing it because it's the real thing.
You know, there's a lot of stuff going on on YouTube.
But look, Sammy was a real guy.
I was a real member of that life.
Uh we have a lot of differences in ideology and opinions, and I think it's all gonna come out in this sit down.
People are gonna, you know, they're gonna get an eye for and an earful, I can tell you that.
The Mafia States of America, this is gonna be a several part series, and I've seen just snippets of it, and it's amazing.
I cannot wait to sit down and enjoy this.
Um there was a there was at a point where you weren't sure you would do this, right?
I mean, did you two I can't imagine you originally said, Yeah, let's sit down in the same room and have a piece of bread.
I mean, I would imagine that it it took some doing.
Yeah, because you know, Sammy had said some things about me uh that weren't very nice, and I in turn said some things about him that I think were true.
I mean, it's a matter of public record.
So we didn't have any uh, you know, love lost between the two of us.
That were that was for sure.
I didn't want to do it.
He didn't want to do it, but somehow it, you know, they convinced us when we got together on it.
But um, you know, I I can tell you this, you know, I I think you know this, but Rudy uh obviously you do know it.
Rudy played a part in this, and uh Chaz Palmateri was the host.
They did a great job on it.
I I can tell you that, and I think people are gonna be very intrigued with it, but you know, we'll see what happens.
It's coming out, I believe December 3rd or shortly after that.
Uh, you know, you can go on mafia states of america dot com.
I think it's a website, and and people can buy us ten episodes.
I mean, this is uh this is a big deal.
Yeah.
Maybe give me a minute on that moment that you said I gotta walk away.
And did you know that you would survive it?
Because a lot of people don't think there's any way you could have really walked away, Michael, and you still be alive today.
Well, you know, Joe, there was a point in time when I realized that, you know, the life was over.
I had met a young girl that's now my wife for 37 years.
Uh I knew if I was gonna be with her, I didn't want to put her through the you know, the agony that my family went through, and every other family of every member that I know in that life.
You know, it's not a life that's conducive to a good family life.
And I just said, you know, aside from that, Rudy Giuliani had really, really used the RICO uh statute very well.
He was putting a lot of guys away, a lot of guys are becoming informants.
And I said, This life is really in trouble.
And um, you know, did I think I was gonna make it look?
I always said to myself, I you know, I wasn't mad at anybody.
I didn't want to hurt any anybody.
I wasn't looking to put people in prison.
So I said, you know what, I'm gonna give this a shot and see if I can make it.
I knew I was gonna have some trouble.
I knew it wasn't gonna be taken well.
I knew my father would be upset with me, Percicle, my boss, but I said, Look, I'm not gonna hurt anybody.
I'm gonna do what I need to do.
I'd be a little bit manipulative with the government, maybe, you know, and things like that.
But uh, you know, I'm a I'm a risk taker at ways, uh Joe, and I figured, you know, you know, I think this is gonna work out.
And ultimately, I'll be honest with you.
I think God had a different plan and a purpose for my life, and that's why I'm here and able to enjoy freedom and my family, and you know, I've been very blessed.
Very blessed.
And we're blessed to have you on the program.
It's uh it's Michael Franzese.com.
Go to that website, become part of his crew, pre-order the book as soon as you can, Mafia Democracy, and also the Mafia States of America, this series that's coming out.
And it's going to be a big December for Michael Franzies.
Continued success.
Michael, thank you for your friendship, and I appreciate you coming on.
Joe, I appreciate you more than you know, and thanks for having me.
And uh we'll do it again whenever you're ready.
I hope I hope it'll be very soon.
Thank you very much.
Michael Franzes, go to his website, your thoughts on this 1-800-941 Sean.
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And yes, I'm old enough that I say the Twitters and the Facebook.
Um, but I'm pretty active on there.
Uh the other ones are starting to catch up, Parler and Getter and all of these other ones.
And if they ever start taking off, we'll jump on there as well.
Um, but but go and check us out on social media.
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Just look up Joe Pags.
They're all, I think it's all one word, J-O-E-P-A-G-S.
And uh, in the time remaining, I just want to uh legitimately thank Sean again for for just allowing this.
It's the biggest radio program on the planet.
And Linda, thank you so much for everything that you've done to make this happen.
It's it's funny because you'd asked me a few other times, and a news story broke every single time.
And uh in the fact that I gotta be honest, three minutes before the show today, I was like, are we doing it?
We're gonna here we are, and you've done great.
You've been absolutely amazing.
So thank you for being here for us.
We really appreciate it.
Your support has been amazing.
And it's funny, I was I was a little trepidatious last night sending you the the uh the new Pags parody, and you were so cool today.
You said I listened to the first line, play it.
It was great.
It was phenomenal.
And that's gonna be on Hannity.com.
So if you missed it, you can check it out.
Get into all the holiday spirit with uh Joe Pegs.
Make sure you go and get that done.
I want to um acknowledge the callers because you guys have been amazing today.
Didn't have time for a ton of you because we had four really interesting, I think, interviews.
Not because I did them, because the people were interesting that I brought on.
But uh hopefully you got something out of that.
And I want to say thank you very much for lighting the phone lines up the entire time.
Katie's been great, Jason's been great, of course, Linda is amazing, and Sean, thank you again.
Again, if you don't mind, go and check out Joe Pags.com.
I'd love to hear from you.
If you weren't able to get through on the phone lines and tons of you weren't, do me a favor, send me an email over at the website.
Again, Joe Paggs.com.
Thank you so much, and please do me a favor, sit down with your kids, tell them about the Thanksgiving proclamation from Washington, about what this this day tomorrow really is all about.
Have a great one.
Have a safe one.
We'll talk soon.
Have a great one.
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