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Our friend Joe Paggs is at it again.
He has a special tribute song to those 13 rhinos that voted for the $1.2 trillion infrastructure.
By the way, if they didn't vote for it, it wouldn't have passed.
Great job, these 13 Republicans.
Anyway, our friend Joe Paggs honors them with this song.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Each time we vote for them, we believe what they say.
It's time to take a stand.
It's our future at play.
They had their shot to stop buttons, miss.
Why did those 13 rhinos say yes?
One day they say they're in.
Sink with just what we want.
And now it's just the same.
Had their shop ended squat.
Each time I'm hopeful, I must confess.
Why did those 13 rhinos say yes?
We send them.
Believing what they do.
They vote with the left.
To us they say screw you.
We need to call them out.
We should take their seats back.
Showed what they're all about.
They might be smoking crack.
You know we can't give them a free pass.
Why did those 13 rhinos kiss Joe's ass?
They had one job.
Not to weave and bomb.
Stand firm against this junk.
Don't side with the mob.
Well, here we are, and this we know.
These reps are turncoats.
Didn't know that gold is low.
Voter in this spending bloat.
Nancy Pelosi.
They tried to impress.
Why did these 13 rhinos cave and say yes?
Why did these 13 rhinos cave and say yes?
Why did these 13 rhinos cave and say yes.
Anyway, our buddy Joe Pags is with us now.
I mean, I you know, all these years I know you, I never knew you had this talent.
Uh Carol Roth is with us as well.
Uh she has her podcast, The Roth Effect, and the uh author of The War on Small Business.
I you know, you learn something, like you think you know somebody, you're friends with somebody, and then you find out they have these incredible gifts, and I'm like, well, why didn't you tell me beforehand?
I could have like I I would have put in requests like for the last 20 years.
Well, I I I didn't know that I should have said anything, because first of all, I don't think I'm much of a singer, but I have a really good time exposing these idiots when there's a big news story, and I get to have some fun with it, and I got a little bit of musical talent, I guess.
Just a tiny bit, Sean.
Yeah, well, you do you have amazing talent, actually.
Uh and you're like me, you probably have too much time on your hands.
I am a total complete loser.
Uh, and I admit it.
Um, it really I will tell you this.
Between Mitch McConnell, you know, at the last minute, two straight months, Carol, he and Republicans said, no, they're not gonna help Biden on the debt ceiling, the Democrats on the debt ceiling, and they could have stopped everything right there dead in its tracks.
But at the last minute, they changed their mind.
The same thing with the thirteen Republicans.
Why would you assist Joe Biden in giving him what is perceived as a win when he did not have the votes in his own party to pass this?
We can't afford 1.2 trillion, never mind the additional 3.5 trillion that trying to get still.
Yeah, I mean, stuff like this undermines when people say that conservatives and the GOP are fiscally conservative, and then you have 13 rhinos as uh Joe so brilliantly saying about uh came out and not only did something that would make no sense,
absent of who was in charge, but then given the state of inflation and given the fact that they didn't have the votes, there's absolutely no reason that I can think of why this made sense.
I mean, the bill's not actually for infrastructure.
We're in a scenario where we have runaway spending, runaway inflation.
Uh these people need their head examined.
It's really unbelievable.
All right, I've got to ask you both.
Um, I did not think I would get as interested as I got and am in this case involving Kyle Rittenhouse.
Right.
Um, I can't believe, you know, the t well, I I should predict it.
The rush to judgment, no due process, no presumption of innocence.
That crowd always exists, but it included the president, it included the media mob, people in Hollywood, all the predictable people, Joe Pags.
And as I watch this trial unfold, you know, and I see the video, and I listen to the eyewitness testimony, and then I listen to the star witness of the prosecution say, Yeah, I I pointed the loaded gun at Kyle Rittenhouse before he shot me.
The whole thing seems to have just fallen apart yet again.
I I couldn't agree more.
You know, we went into this months and months now of hearing the left media tell us what this guy did wrong.
He was a mega guy, he was a white supremacist, he was out there to kill some protesters.
Joe Scarborough, and lit literally said the guy brought an AR-15, which is a huge gun across the border to start shooting protesters.
None of that even happened.
First of all, an AR-15 isn't a huge gun.
As I watch this, Sean, uh, I'm looking at an indictment of the Second Amendment.
I'm looking at an indictment of rifles, which is strange.
Um the prosecutor seemed to allege that Kyle Rittenhouse should have had a handgun for some reason, because I guess that's less deadly.
Um, and tried to say that protecting property while holding a gun means you're using lethal force.
What you just alluded to, all these these lefties in the media, all of these lies about him really reminds you of Nicholas Sandman.
There was a lie out here about Kyle Ridnaus.
There was a lie about what he did that night.
He was a kid putting out fires, uh, giving medical aid to people who were injured by rioters, and then defended himself.
You could you could see it uh absolutely and exclusively in those videos that he was defending himself, and still you've got people uh at CMN and MSNBC alleging he's a white supremacist, and now the judge somehow is a racist.
You've got white prosecutors and a white defendant.
Somehow the judge is a racist because he's interjecting and telling that this assistant district attorney that he's doing it wrong.
This this is a microcosm of exactly what's wrong with the left media in this country.
Thank God we're getting the true story.
You know, let me play for example how bad Carol, you respond to this first.
How bad and abusively corrupt and biased the mob in the media has been in this case.
Kenosha shooter, Kyle Rittenhouse, he murdered two people, by the way.
Rittenhouse is basically what you would have had in a school shooter.
He's a 17-year-old kid.
He shouldn't have had a gun.
He crossed state lines to supposedly protect property.
No, he was going out to shoot people.
Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old vigilante.
Kyle Rittenhouse and vigilante.
Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante.
A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people.
Kyle Rittenhouse.
A guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest, looking To get in trouble.
He did.
He murdered a couple of people.
Rittenhouse, uh, the 17-year-old kid just running around.
Shooting and killing protesters.
You see the 17-year-old who was radicalized by Trumpism, took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer.
A white, Trump supporting, MAGA loving uh Blue Lives Matter social media uh uh partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with the intent to shoot people.
A 17-year-old boy who drove across state lines with an AR-15 and started uh shooting people up, including a guy with a skateboard.
Kyle Rittenhouse, who has killed protesters, unarmed protesters.
Ridden house is a 17-year-old that went with a weapon into the middle of uh protest uh and then provoke people and then shot and kill them.
Kyle Rittenhouse is the enemy.
A boy from out of state, drives up to the state with an AR-15 around his neck, and he shoots and kills a couple of people, uh shooting wildly, running around, uh acting like uh Riticop drove across state lines armed with a rifle to go and shoot people.
What a dark uh dystopian scene where a seventeen-year-old boy is carrying around a rifle, running around and and gunning down protesters.
Uh, there you have it, Carol.
That that is your fair and balanced and objective, non-opinionated, non-biased media.
Yeah, because I mean it really hits home hearing it one after another.
And if you um you really look at what stands out there, so much of it is not about an individual, it's about a narrative that Kyle Rittenhouse isn't really the one on trial.
It's anybody who owns a gun, anybody who supports MAGA, anybody who supports Trump, anybody who doesn't think like the media does, that is really what's on trial.
What I will say about it is that it is so blatant that a lot of people are starting to wake up.
Bill Ackman, who is a well-known hedge fund manager who uh I think leans a little bit lefty, went on a rant on Twitter yesterday saying how he had watched the testimony and cross-examination and said, quote, we came away believing that Kyle is telling the truth and that he acted in self-defense,
went on this whole uh tweet stream about talking about him being a civic-minded patriot and whatnot, then posts uh a little bit later, just got a call from the media asking if my Twitter account was hacked.
That is the reporter couldn't conceive of the idea that I could believe Kyle's innocent because I am not a right winger.
I think that pretty much sums up what is going on here.
Um, I just, you know, it's just so typical.
Quick break, we'll come back more with Carol Roth, Joe Pags on the other side.
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All right, as we continue, Carol Roth and our friend Joe Pags is with us.
We're going to find out a lot next week.
I think Look, I I know I have too much experience in this that you just really can't interpret where a jury's gonna go and how they're seeing it differently, maybe in the room.
Um, but my thought is he gets acquitted on pretty much everything.
Maybe the gun charge sticks, but that's a misdemeanor.
I don't even think that I don't even think he's gonna get in a lot of trouble for that.
In terms of the shooting of three people, I thought it was a pretty compelling case that was made with eyewitness testimony, video testimony, and the star witness uh of the prosecution's testimony uh that this was self-defense, Joe Pags.
Uh, is it pleasant?
No.
Uh should should Kyle, in retrospect, should people be putting themselves in a position where maybe they have the greatest of intentions and they want to help, maybe looking back, maybe you want to stay the hell away from areas where you have problems like this, and that means good people would, you know, don't go to help other innocent people that are being hurt, like stores that are being looted and and arson that's taken place, etc.
Well, I think it's a great point.
First and foremost, we're not talking about the thing that that even started this entire event that night.
The riots over a guy who had a knife fighting police who was where he shouldn't have been in Jacob Blake being shot by police as he was reaching into his car.
We're not talking about the riots that were burning down a city.
They were attempting to Minneapolis Kenosha.
In Minneapolis, you had hundreds of minority-owned businesses burned to the ground, and you were going to see that in Kenosha as well, just because people wanted to riot with a very small amount of information about Jacob Blake in that situation.
Uh I'll bet Kyle in retrospect, as you said, Sean would go back and rethink the events of that night because again, there were riots happening, people burning things down, and being a good Samaritan ends up being, you know, no good deed goes unpunished.
But what he did that night and how he did it that night was so misrepresented.
We got the real facts here.
I think you're right.
The gun charge maybe sticks.
Self-defense is evident when the star witness for the state said I pointed my gun at the guy before he shot me.
And then there's video and photographic evidence of that as well.
What makes me sick is that entire montage you just ran is just a very small amount of the misinformation since uh since August 25th of last year that's been out there.
There I I will bet you five to six to seven out of ten Americans think this guy went there and was really-milly shooting anybody he saw.
And just one note if I can about the AR-15 that they keep on saying AR-15.
They're not saying a rifle.
AR-15, AR means armorite, it doesn't mean assault rifle.
Yeah, by the way.
It's just it's just dumb.
They're representing it like it's a bazooka.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, well, you know, of course, they don't even know what the difference is.
You'd have like, for example, I own AR-15s, but they're modified in ways that are so ridiculous to make them compliant with New York laws, Joe.
You you you'd love this.
It's all about cosmetics.
It has zero to do with with uh the weapon itself.
Nothing.
So I guess it makes them feel good.
They don't know a darn thing about about a firearm.
You're you're you're right.
They're changing the way it looks, although a much more powerful weapon can look, I guess, more noculous.
The AR-15 is a war-style machine.
Nobody's going to war with an AR-15.
It doesn't make any sense.
And the the bullets that he had that night were two, two threes, which are basically a 22 caliber bullet.
I'll understand why they're trying to vilify it.
Sean, I again, and Carol, I think this is an attack on the Second Amendment, an attack on so-called assault rifles, and they're trying to do something bigger than Kyle Rittenhouse out of this.
That's my opinion.
All right, I gotta let you both go.
Thank you, Joe Paggs.
We appreciate it.
We always appreciate you sharing your great music with us.
Carol, thank you.
Good to have you back.
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All right, 25 now till the top of the hour on this Friday, 800-941 Sean.
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Uh I love the fact that people believe the big socialist lie.
Again, to if you want to believe, you're gonna get I'm gonna get free daycare, and I'm gonna get free college tuition, and I'm I'm gonna get uh a free um everything from the government.
Free government healthy food, government wage, government health care, government retirement, government, government, the same people that can't keep law and order, that lied about Obamacare, keep your doctor, plan and save money.
Uh the very same people that robbed and the Social Security lockbox money and squandered it, now headed towards insolvency.
Same people that lied and wouldn't say what was so obvious in the summer of 2020, riots are riots.
They just just denied it and never discussed it.
They only care about one, and that's January 6th.
They don't believe in equal justice and application of our laws either.
Um, if you listen to the many times Joe Biden says over and over and over and over and over.
I'm not gonna raise taxes on anybody making less than 400,000 a year.
First of all, that's a couple.
This new bill does not reflect this promise.
We got another lie, by the way, in the media mob over there at MSDNC.
They're saying, well, the economy is doing well despite inflation and increasing costs.
Average American family now is because of Joe Biden's inflation alone is paying over a thousand dollars more.
It looks like basic Christmas cookie ingredients are now gonna cost more than nine bucks in at least ten U.S. cities.
There's not everything you buy now costs more because of Joe.
And Joe caused all of it.
And now Jove's even saying this week, can you believe that gas prices are this high?
Actually said it.
This is Joe Biden promising not to do this.
Now, who's being impacted the most negatively by Joe's inflation and by Joe's energy policies?
That would be the poor in the middle class, the very people that he promised again and again and again and again and again, he's not gonna tax.
Well, that's still a tax.
And when he taxes corporations and they pass it on to you, that'll be another tax.
And when they raise the capital gains tax, that'll also impact middle class Americans.
Listen.
The reason I'm bothering to do this is I keep hearing on the press Biden's gonna raise your taxes.
Anyone making less than 400,000 a year will not pay a single penny in taxes.
And we will not increase the deficit either.
Anyone making more than 400,000 will see a small to a significant tax increase.
If you make less than 400,000, you won't see one single penny and additional federal tax.
Joe Biden will not raise taxes on anyone who makes less than 400,000 a year.
He has been very clear about that.
Joe Biden will not end fracking.
He has been very clear about that.
So no new taxes, 400,000 in taxes.
There would be no need for anything.
And will you be raising taxes uh on small businesses that you're talking about?
Look, you have 90% of the businesses out there are mom and pop businesses that are out there that are make that employ less than 50 people.
There'll be no raising taxes, huh?
Nobody making under 400,000 bucks would have their taxes raised, period.
Bingo.
Nobody making less than 400,000 will pay a penny more in tax under my proposal.
That's a promise.
That's a guarantee.
A promise.
I give you my words about it.
That's an absolute guarantee.
I mean, it's all big one it's all one big component scheme.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
800, 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Pam is in New York.
Hey Pam, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey Sean, I'm doing well.
How are you today?
I'm good.
Thank you.
Happy Friday.
Uh yes, T G I F. Listen, I want to see what everybody knows that I was able to claim a religious exemption, so it is possible to get one.
But before I say that, I have to add so many people have come in with the um thought process that it's not even worth it.
They're not gonna listen to me.
They're not gonna, you know, accept anything I have to say.
And that kind of goes along with this whole thing of just allowing people to dictate what happens to us.
This is America.
We are the people.
We.
And if we don't start standing up and fighting this, we're not gonna be the people anymore, and we're not gonna live in a free America.
So when the exemption came around, I said, Doc on it, I'm gonna go for this and I'm okay with this.
So I went online and I started doing a little bit of research.
And um you don't have to be a religious person to put out a uh religious exemption.
All you have to do for me is to believe in God, but you do whatever you gotta do.
There is a Civil Rights Act from nineteen sixty five, Title Seven, that states an exemption is to be honored, not reviewed, accepted, or rejected.
So what I did was when I put in my religious exemption, and I thought it's pretty simple, you know.
I I really wasn't thinking I was gonna get it.
Um so I just mentioned that I believe that God is in control of my body and that I don't want to put anything into it that's gonna do you mind if I ask what field you work in?
I'm a nurse.
Okay.
So you in New York they gave you a religious exemption and because this goes against your fundamental religious beliefs.
Correct.
Okay.
Now, as as part of the deal, do you have to be tested on a regular basis for COVID?
Not so far.
We haven't we're we were told we're gonna have to abide by certain rules, but I haven't found out what the rules are yet.
You see, to me this is what I've been saying, and maybe I've not been articulate enough on it, and I need to be.
Uh in my opinion, the debate over vax don't vax, and and I don't care how many people scream, you know, F your freedom or uh yell at you like I guess it was Gene Simmons of KISS, you know, telling people whatever he said yesterday.
I just I'm I've had it with these people.
They don't under understand there are people with rare medical conditions, there are people that have deeply held religious views.
And there is a way Well, if we follow the science that they say, there is a way that you can have a safe work environment and accommodate people that for whatever reason choose or can't get vaccinated, and that the natural answer would be that you get tested.
Now you can test people, it takes ten, twelve, fifteen minutes max, and people if you want to test them every day, test them every day.
And then that would mean they're walking into the office, not COVID positive.
On top of the fact that we were told that the vaccine would protect you against getting COVID, and then it turned out we have all these breakthrough cases, so they were wrong again, and now we you need you know, it was VAX or mass, now it's Vax Mask, uh, and booster booster booster.
I mean, they just you know this this is why people have no faith, trust in the guys like Fauci, the people of the C D C, the people at the NIH, Joe Biden and the rest of 'em.
Because they keep changing their mind every five minutes.
Well, you know, another thing too, back last January when this whole thing um came out.
W my entire department was sick.
We were all sick.
We all thought we had the flu, and we also we got it because the vaccine didn't work.
Remember the old flu vaccine before COVID came to me?
That was when everybody was dying from that, and you had to be vaccinated.
Um by the way, the flu usually on any given year is at best forty percent effective.
They they they're guessing which strain you're gonna end up getting.
Yeah.
Sean, it's all about fear.
Everybody that I talk to my gosh.
It's fear.
Half my friend, I always got a flu shot every year.
All right, I got one this year.
And half my friends think I'm an idiot, and the other half agree with me.
You know, and I'm just like, you don't want to get it?
I don't I don't give a flying rip if you get it or not.
And at the end of the day, I really I shouldn't say my own view, but I think everybody has to take this and look at it a little bit broader and not listen to all the fear.
What really gets me with all this, and I've been seeing this first hand, I'm a nurse.
Um the fear that people are so afraid, oh my god, I gotta get this, I'm gonna I'm gonna die if I don't get it.
Can I ask you a personal question?
You don't don't you do not have to answer.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
My question is simple.
Um did you get COVID as a nurse?
Yes, I did.
Okay.
So you have natural immunity.
Yes, I do.
But that doesn't count anymore.
I am w well, I am waiting for the science to come back from Israel on the nearly eight hundred thousand people.
The early indications were with the Delta variant with all the breakthrough cases, that it was twenty-seven times more effective than any of the vaccines that they were using there.
And it ha it needs to be peer reviewed, and when that science comes in, I think it will tell us an awful lot more about natural immunity, T cell immunity, whatever you want to call it.
And I have a funny feeling that you know Robert Malone, who created the technology, he's a medical doctor who created the technology that made it possible uh to create the mRNA vaccines.
That would be FISA Moderna.
Um, yeah, he said to me that that originally it was for older people with comorbidities, he said that's never about the entire population.
That's kind of scary to me.
No, but he also said that i early indications, he's following this this closely as well in Israel, that that the even his own technology can't match natural immunity.
Now time will tell.
I'm following the science, I'm waiting for the peer review.
I want to see what happens.
Well, you know, in the very very beginning of this, there was so much on the internet about this.
Many, many different doctors spoke about it.
And if you have a second, this is an amazing story.
It won't take very long.
I'll give you the last word.
Go ahead.
Okay, thank you.
Um I was listening to this one doctor, I believe he was out of Germany, and he was saying the God has made an amazing system when he's made a human body.
And in his human body, he said, Yeah, I'm gonna make it like an orchestra.
He's saying God is the conductor of the orchestra.
Um each different part of the body plays a different instrument.
And usually when viruses come in, they attack one part of the body first.
So when God sees, oops, sounds like we have a problem in one area, he sends his scouts out to find out what's going on and report back to the group and let us know what to do, and then we'll take it from there on how we're gonna fix this.
With the MRNA vaccine, what it's doing is it's uh it's it's alerting the entire body because these little clowns are made throughout your entire body.
It's not settling one area to store it.
It's going everywhere.
So the body goes into chaos because the orchestra sounds clear, they listen to the conductor, no one's coming back saying, Oh my god, we gotta come here, we have a problem that we have come there.
And that's a woman.
I don't want to get too deep into the weeds into the MR uh MRNA virus or J and J shot.
You know, I just I urge people, it's too complicated to do in in one phone call on a radio show.
I urge people again, take it seriously.
I've seen the worst of this.
I bet you've seen the worst of it as well as a nurse.
Um I urge people to research extensively.
I urge people to take into account their unique medical history and current condition and talk to their own doctor, doctors, and medical professionals they trust.
You know, unlike you, you are a medical professional.
I'm not, Pam.
I'm not a doctor.
I didn't go to medical school.
You went to nursing school.
I didn't.
You know more than I do.
So I I've got to I'm I just refuse to play doctor and tell people what to do when I don't know a thing about their unique medical history or condition.
Uh we are losing our jobs because of this.
I mean, this is ludicrous.
This is illogical.
What is going on?
What is the bigger picture?
All right.
I've got to run to some other calls, but I appreciate you being with us, and I'm glad you got your exemption.
I probably would be quiet about it if you want my advice, because uh yeah, it's it's not widely accepted at this point, but um I'm glad you got it.
I think others should get it as well.
Michelle is in Michigan.
Michelle, how are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Happy Friday.
Well, it's not a happy Friday for me.
What's the matter?
Your heart is troubled.
What can I do to help you?
My heart is troubled.
I look for that that every single night for you to say, so it gives me hope.
I'm a mid-level provider in Michigan and my patient base is fifty-five and older.
Right.
Um, so I are you a registered nurse or doctor or uh physician assistant.
Okay.
PA by the way, physician assistants do like ninety percent of the hard work.
Well, there that's possible.
Um, but I am losing my job from a large one of the largest hospital systems in our country and that has a ninety-nine percent denial rate for religious and medical exemptions.
And I was denied both three times.
Um so it's it's very problematic.
Even some nurses who are vaxxed, they're leaving to go work um travel nursing because it's it's so much it's so much more pay.
Um so we are losing an awful lot of really good staff.
And it's not just nurses and physician assistants and you know, there's ancillary staff as well.
My concern is is that we have Joe Biden, who has not had a physical or cognitive testing like Trump did.
Um Trump, very smartly, he asked for cognitive testing, and he did a mocha score, which is a Montreal cognitive assessment, got 30 out of 30 out of it.
So, you know, these these tests, you know, they're for short-term memory, focus, facial awareness, concentration.
All of which Biden clearly has trouble with.
And we've given him the keys to the to the whole country, and things are happening so fast that we can't even react to them.
The border, Afghanistan, uh losing a lot of really good medical staff.
Um, you know, there are 27 psychologists, clinical psychologists, and medical health professionals that actually wrote a book, and they called it the dangerous case of Donald Trump.
Where are those clinicians now?
When Biden has clear signals of cognitive impairment, and we're nobody's testing him, nobody's challenging it.
Look, I think uh who was it that said I think Nikki Haley said it, and you know, everybody should be cognitively tested if they're gonna run for president, right?
Um I don't think Joe Biden knows what day of the week it is half the time.
I really don't.
And you know, look when when Peter Ducey asks him about the payments to illegal immigrants, 450 grand, and Joe says that's garbage, and and you guys need to stop talking about that garbage, and it's not gonna happen.
And then two days later, is passionately defending it.
I don't know what's worse.
The fact that he didn't know his own administration's policy, or the fact that he's going along with the stupid idiot, idiotic idea.
Uh I gotta run.
Thanks for the call, 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
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