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Is There A Ceiling? - October 8th, Hour 3
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So for two straight months, Republicans, they're united.
They're going to stand firm.
They're not going to raise the debt limit.
They're not part of the process of putting a budget together.
Democrats threatening the reconciliation process, which is how they're going to end up passing whatever number it finally turns into, whether it's $2 trillion or $3.5 trillion or whatever it is.
And at the last hour, there he is, the Senate leader for the Republicans, Mitch McConnell, just caves.
And then he's able to get, you know, 10 other Republicans to cave with him.
Richard Shelby is retiring.
He doesn't care.
Lisa Murkowski, no surprise there.
Susan Collins, no surprise there.
Roy Blunt, he's out.
He doesn't care.
Rob Portman, he doesn't care.
John Thune, who knows what he's doing in the future.
You know, but one surprise was South Dakota Senator Mike Rounds.
That surprised me.
Texas Senator John Cornyn, he thinks he wants to be the next leader in the Senate for Republicans.
Forget it.
West Virginia Senator, also part of this group, Wyoming Senator John Barroso.
One surprise that wasn't on the list was Mitt Romney.
Anyway, so Chuck Schumer does exactly what Chuck Schumer always does.
He gets the Republicans to cave.
Republicans do him a favor, throw him a lifeline, bail him out, something they never should have done, something they told us for two months they wouldn't do.
And this is how Schumer repays his Republican colleagues.
Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans insisted they wanted a solution to the debt ceiling, but said Democrats must raise it alone by going through a drawn-out, convoluted, and risky reconciliation process.
That was simply unacceptable to my caucus.
And yesterday, Senate Republicans finally realized that their obstruction was not going to work.
I thank, very much thank, my Democratic colleagues for our showing our unity in solving this Republican-manufactured crisis.
Despite immense opposition from Leader McConnell and members of his conference, our caucus held together and we pulled our country back from the cliff's edge that Republicans tried to push us over.
This is a temporary but necessary and important fix.
I appreciate that at the end of the day, we were able to raise the debt limit without a convoluted and unnecessary reconciliation process that until today, the Republican leader claimed was the only way to address the debt limit.
Well, the Republicans have been shut out of any and all negotiations.
Why should they raise the debt limit knowing what Schumer has planned, which is his 3.5 trillion new Green Deal socialism?
Now, it's gone viral.
Joe Manchin was behind Chuck Schumer and it was picked up by C-SPAN.
He literally put his hands in his face and like, what the hell is wrong with you?
And then he went out and he spoke to the media and here's what he said.
I didn't think it was appropriate at this time.
We had to talk about that, but he was Steve.
He fell charged up and he and I had a few conversations.
Why was not it appropriate?
I just think that basically what we got to do is find the pathways forward to make sure that we de-weap weaponize.
We have to de-weaponize.
You can't be playing politics.
None of us can.
On both sides, okay?
And both sides have been very guilty of this.
And the frustration was built up.
And I'm sure Chuck's frustration was built, but that was not a way to take it out.
We just disagree.
I've done a different one.
We heard from a couple of Republicans who said that that was a completely counterproductive speech.
So you worry about it.
Well, everybody, on both sides, I'm just saying.
It's just the civility is gone, okay?
And I'm not going to be part of getting rid of that.
I'm going to try to bring it back and I'll speak out when I see someone do something otherwise.
I think that if we can get everybody together, calm down a little bit, get everybody together, and understand it is best for both sides.
You can fight about a lot of things.
As soon as you don't throw this out, this is the most serious thing we can do, and we're not going to do it anymore.
And I said, remember I told you before, we were not going to default, and we did not default.
And we will not default and go through this again.
We'll work it out.
Reconciliation, should your party go through reconciliation to do this?
That's right.
Well, I have a difference.
I think that reconciliation would not have hurt us, but I understand that there's a lot of people that don't want to, and there's against us difference.
There's a difference of opinion on that.
But the bottom line is, we shouldn't have to go through reconciliation.
We should agree that this is too serious for any of us to get in trouble with and to play with.
So the Senate, with the help of the Republicans, raised the federal debt limit to $28.4 trillion, and the Republicans cave here with all things, a hitchhiker's guide to all things, the Washington Swamp and Sewer.
Fox News congressional correspondent knows more about the process than anybody I know.
Chad Pergram is with us.
Chad, well, Mitch caved, and Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer beat it, you know, mocked him and ridiculed him.
Joe Manchin wasn't happy about it.
Now I guess we have, what, till December 3rd when we face the next Republican likely cave moment?
Well, one wonders if Republicans would be willing to help them.
I mean, that's going to be an issue considering the fact that Democrats, and in particular, Chuck Schumer, spiked the football.
You know, even before this came to a vote, when there was talk of an agreement, a tentative agreement, the details hadn't been ironed out yet.
This is on Wednesday.
You know, I talked to several Democrats and asked them, you know, their language was pretty stark.
Were they spiking the football essentially?
Now, you know, Republicans will say, well, we didn't actually vote to raise the debt ceiling.
There were two votes here.
The first vote was to get over the filibuster, and most Republicans filibustered that.
But you needed at least 10 Republicans, and they got 11, as you said, to get the 60 votes.
So this is a technicality on the closure vote.
Right, exactly.
But, you know, it was all Democrats on the actual vote to raise the debt ceiling.
But how this is going to look in December is going to be a problem.
Now, Mitch McConnell, one thing he might have been doing is saying, look, I want to have two votes on the debt ceiling, one before, because we've ramped up this whole idea here that they're going to do all this spending, and they will probably pass that big social spending bill, $2 trillion, $2.5, whatever the final number is, between now and December 3rd, and then turn it back around on them come December and say, look, you know, you passed all this stuff.
We're not going to help you again.
So maybe that is the game he is playing.
You know, he has been pretty reticent since Tuesday as to what his strategy was.
There was one theory, and I will underscore this, that this was just a theory, that Mitch McConnell was very concerned that the Democrats were going to alter the precedent for the filibuster.
That they had all 50 Democrats against the United States.
But let me interject, if I may.
Chad, Joe Manchin said yesterday that he would not use the nuclear option.
That's right.
So that was not even a viable argument as of yesterday.
That's right.
And when I saw some of the reporting out and about on this, I said, that doesn't add up at all.
You've heard me say this a million times.
It's always about the math, it's the math, it's the math.
And we knew that Manchin wasn't for it.
We went back and confirmed with him yesterday, and I reported on Fox News this, that, you know, he said that was never going to happen.
So that was some spin that was out there to try to give some protective air cover for Mitch McConnell.
And this is why people like Lindsey Graham were so exercised about this yesterday.
You said, you know, we capitulated, we caved on the Republican side.
As of Tuesday, and correct me if I'm wrong, this week, Republicans have been saying for about two months, correct me if my timeframe is off, that they would not do this, that they were united and they would not do it.
That the Democrats, we know their plan is to spend enormous amounts of money, trillions of dollars, on the new Green Deal socialism.
To do it, you have to raise the debt ceiling.
The Democrats have the ability through reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling.
In other words, Republicans could make them own every aspect of this, considering they're not part of the process to put a budget together anyway.
And yet, after Tuesday, what happened?
Why did Mitch blink?
Well, the only thing we could figure, and I challenged Mitch McConnell on this very point on Tuesday afternoon.
I said, have you heard from investment bankers in New York?
Have you seen things in the stock market or hearing from the Wall Street type saying, look, you have to do this, you have to do this.
And he sidestepped the question.
And you and I talked about this a little bit on Wednesday.
That's the only thing that we really know.
Now, again, as I say, Mitch McConnell sometimes plays the long game.
He might be saying, okay, politically, we can get to this December 3rd thing here, even though, you know, the Republicans are going to have to, or excuse me, the Democrats are going to vote to approve all this extra money, and we're not going to help them.
And then we can, you know, go at them twice over the debt ceiling.
But that's why, you know, I start to wonder, will they really do that at all at that stage?
But here's something that nobody's really talked about, Sean.
Maybe what the Democrats have to do, because they did not do reconciliation this time for the debt ceiling, they're going to have to pass their big social spending bill sometime between now and then.
And maybe that, in fact, is where they include a debt ceiling increase.
And they do use reconciliation because when you talk to Democrats on Wednesday and Thursday, they were adamant that they were never going to touch reconciliation, even though that is what McConnell was imploring them to do.
I mean, it's pretty amazing the way this all unfolds.
I mean, quick break, we'll come back more with Chad Pergram, All Things the Swamp, the Sewer, Washington, D.C., and all that went on last night with the cave of McConnell and Senate Republicans.
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He's no show Joe.
No kidding.
Have a problem.
Stayed in trouble.
No power.
No water.
No heat.
No Joe.
Yep.
He's too busy taking a nap.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Sean Hannity.
All right, 800-941-SEAN is our number.
Final moments with Chad Pergram.
He's Fox News' congressional correspondent, explaining all the happenings of last night with the Republican Cave.
I think this is where the shock came in for people that are conservative in the country because Republicans claim, and this is my biggest complaint with the Republican Party.
I've expressed it over the years many, many times, is that they say we're going to repeal and replace, repeal and replace.
How many show votes did we have in the House, for example, between 2009 and 2017?
I think the number is over 60, Chad, unless I'm mistaken.
Yep, yes, we're going to be able to do it.
And then the moment comes and Republicans have the ability.
They have both chambers.
They have the presidency.
And they didn't have a plan.
And then they're struggling to get one together at the last minute.
And it turns out to be, you know, that failed.
John McCain, of course, famously walking on the Senate floor and voting no because of his, you know, at the time, the interpretation was his hatred of Donald Trump.
Well, and this was the overpromise that we heard from the Republicans for years on that particular issue, that they said repeal and replace.
It was great.
Helped them in the 2010 midterms, gets people to the polls, get people fired up, but they were never able to chip away at Obamacare.
And this is the interesting thing here.
If Democrats do pass this bill, regardless of the merits or demerits to that bill, it will be very, very hard to unwind parts of this big social spending plan, whether you agree or disagree with the health care components or the environmental components or the education components.
There's a lot in there, and Democrats know that because, look, Obamacare is still, for the most part, the law of the land.
It won at the Supreme Court twice.
Republicans could never get things together.
And that's why this debate is so critical, regardless of which side of the aisle you are on, because Republicans know that based on the Obamacare experience, they could never unwind it.
And if the Democrats pass this, it will be foundational in terms of the change for the country.
And Democrats know it, and they see the opportunity to do it.
And that's why they're going to try to pass this thing.
And this bill that they're going to pass, this new Green Deal Socialist bill, will double down on Obamacare and even add more benefits.
Meanwhile, Social Security is headed towards insolvency, as is Medicare.
Nobody seems to really be focused at all.
I know Democrats, they had the talking point about the debt ceiling, the debt ceiling.
Well, it's also about the debt, the debt, the debt.
And I don't see a scenario under which America is magically going to be able to repay this debt they're taking on for our kids and grandkids.
But Chad, an interesting week.
I guess we'll be back at this, what, December 3rd?
Well, the first thing that has to happen is the House of Representatives has been recalled for Tuesday, probably late Tuesday night.
They will vote on the bill to sync up with the Senate, what the Senate did last night.
And then this will go to the President's desk.
And then, as you say, December 3rd is the deadline, also the deadline for a government shutdown.
And somewhere in between there, they will try to pass the infrastructure bill and the big social spending plan.
You know what I hear in this?
I hear this is just like 2009, that our Christmas vacation is going to be ruined.
That's what I'm hearing.
Well, I always say, unfortunately, Christmas is the worst time of the year on Capitol Hill.
You know, the Andy Williams song, the most wonderful time of the year.
And I said this for years.
It's always terrible up there.
Just past year, we were there the day after Christmas.
We were there on New Year's Eve, New Year's Day.
And two years ago, the impeachment hearings, and then also the impeachment voted.
The first impeachment round, December, December is always a walk-us time on Capitol Hill.
Yeah, and don't forget 2000 and waiting for the Supreme Court decision, Bush v.
Gore, right?
Yep, absolutely.
And passing the first iteration of Obamacare in the Senate on Christmas Eve Day.
Christmas Eve, correct.
2009.
That's right.
Yeah, and remember, Scott Brown was supposed to be the final vote against it, and they held him back swearing in.
That came later in 2010.
That came later in 2010.
But the first version.
Yeah, the House passed the first version of Obamacare November of 2009, and then the Senate in December of 09.
So it really is an appropriate title, isn't it?
That this is a swamp.
This is a sewer.
This makes no sense in the real world to people that work and make the country great because nobody works like this except for Washington, D.C.
And that's your job, Chad.
You have to live in the sewer.
We pay you to be a sewer worker, a swamp worker.
You're in there with the alligators every day.
But we appreciate the information.
It's important to this audience.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
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It just doesn't get any worse than this.
All right, we'll get to your calls coming up next here on this Friday.
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Quick break right back.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
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So we put together a montage of Joe Biden's promises made and promises broken.
COVID shutdowns, you know, restore America's standing in the world, helping the middle class.
With everything that's unfolding, nothing has been successful.
Listen.
I'm not going to shut down the economy.
I'm not going to shut down the country.
I'm going to shut down the virus.
There comes a time when you do have to give up what you consider your individual right of making your own decision for the greater good of society.
There's no doubt that that's the case.
We have lost our standing in the region.
We have lost the support of our allies.
The next president has to be able to pull those folks back together, reestablish our alliances.
Foreign policy is domestic policy, in my view.
And domestic policy is foreign policy.
They're deeply connected.
A deeply connected set of choices we make about how to advance the American way of life and our vision for the future.
How does the Biden administration miscalculate this intelligence so gravely?
This is a fiasco.
This is a big part of life is execution or implementation.
And this is just malpractice.
This has just been a fiasco by any and every measure.
This is not just about the overall idea of leaving Afghanistan.
This is about leaving hastily and ineptly.
Secretary Blinken, how did President Biden get this so wrong?
But Joe Biden is going to be the face of the failure of the withdrawal.
Friends and foes alike are calling this withdrawal a fiasco.
The French government accusing the U.S. of stabbing it in the back.
The New York Times reports the French embassy has already canceled a gala scheduled for tomorrow night.
It was supposed to celebrate the great relations France has with the United States.
If you're a middle-class family, you're getting hurt badly right now.
You're sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, well, we can't get new tires, they're ball because we have to wait another month or so.
Or are we going to be able to pay the mortgage?
Or who's going to tell her she can't go back to community college?
They're the decisions you're making.
And the middle-class families like I grew up in Scranton and Claymont, they're in trouble.
You know, there's been double-digit price increases in terms of percentages on everything from bacon and televisions to jewelry.
We haven't seen inflation this hot since January of 1991.
Kate, I think if you put all this together, it means that for this holiday shopping season, Americans should expect slower service, higher prices, and fewer options.
That's Joe Biden.
Now, we didn't get the time to get to this yesterday, but Biden gives another speech.
It's just a disaster every time this guy opens his mouth.
No wonder why they won't let this guy take a question, because as soon as he takes a question, he can't handle it.
You know, we had Donald Trump on TV last night, 40, what, minutes straight talking coherently with great specificity and great detail on every topic I threw at him last night.
And it's refreshing to hear from somebody that is not weak, frail, and a cognitive mess.
Listen to Joe from yesterday.
Also, we've got state leadership from Lieutenant Governor Julius here, Staten Stratton, and the Ohio Pennsylvania from Pennsylvania.
The Illinois president of Don Harmon.
And we've got great labor leaders here, too.
Tim, where's Tim?
There you go, Tim, thank you.
And Robert Ryder Reader, R-E-I-T-E-R, ReReader, Chicago Federation of Labor.
And folks, that's how we beat COVID-19.
You know, if I can digress for just a second, last night I was on the television, on television, I was on the telephone with a person at an emergency hospital ward.
Great speech, Joe.
By the way, how would you like to be in a crowded emergency room patiently waiting your turn?
You're in excruciating pain, and someone else arrives at the EER hours after you did, and suddenly it gets to cut the line and gets taken care of, forcing you to wait even longer as your pain gets worse.
Because that's when Biden's friend's girlfriend was in the hospital Wednesday.
The president called the attending nurse in the waiting room to ask what the situation was.
Last night I was on the telephone with a person at an emergency hospital ward in Pennsylvania because a good friend had called and he had rushed his significant other to the emergency room because this woman was having trouble breathing a high fever, could not catch her breath.
And they got her into the hospital.
But the waiting room was so crowded, things were so backed up, they couldn't even get her to be seen initially.
And after confirming he was on the telephone with the receiving nurse, Biden checked in on the busy situation.
And to make a long story short, it took a while because of all the, well, not all, the vast majority of emergency rooms and docks were occupied taking care of COVID patients.
By the way, 2021 now, we have now had more COVID deaths than 2020.
Labor Day to Labor Day, a 300% increase in COVID.
And how's Joe's plans working out?
Because that's all he did is hammer Donald Trump in 2020.
We have more deaths in 2021 under his leadership.
We have COVID cases up 300%, Labor Day to Labor Day.
I mean, and he was handed three vaccines and monoclonal antibodies, which he never mentioned until two and a half weeks ago.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, our number, you want to be a part of the program.
Aaron is in Mississippi.
What's up, Aaron?
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
I have friends in Jackson, Mississippi.
How do you like Jackson?
I don't really go out there much.
I wanted to say, by the way, the MVP of the show is honestly Katie on the phone.
She is a sweetheart and is really patient to help me out.
Why are you sucking up to my call screener and flirting with my call screener?
Because that's what you're doing.
No, no, no.
What I wanted to say, though, Sean, is that...
You notice how he wants to change topics immediately, Katie.
See that?
I don't trust anybody.
I'm like, you know, you should see how brutal I am.
Well, to my kids, to my family's boyfriends and girlfriends.
I am brutal.
But anyway, go ahead.
Sean, I'm trying to respect the production here.
You know, I didn't want to bring up all this.
Well, it sounds to me like you really like Katie, but go ahead.
She's cool.
You got a good one.
She's very cool.
I agree.
Yes, sir.
So I voted for Bernie Sanders in 2016.
I supported all of these policies when I was younger.
And I look back now.
I mean, this was about two years ago.
My eyes were just blown open by all the information.
If you just go and look into it, and I realized I've been deceived.
There are so many people like me that have woken up to this nightmare that we realize that this is not our own elected officials creating the things that are happening in this country right now.
That there's like the coup has already been done.
It's already been completed.
We are now just, you know, we've already gone off the cliff and now we're in the bus flying off the cliff, just trying to grab the silverware and the money on the way out, even though it just seems so chaotic.
And I work at a Walgreens in Mississippi, and I don't want to say too much, but I have a coworker that is having some side effects with this vaccine and everything.
And I'm probably going to lose my job just because I keep pushing it against everyone.
And I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
And they don't want to talk about it.
And it's get to the point where I'm just warning customers now not to get it because we don't know what's in it.
I'm calling the governor.
I'm trying to get people to do some type of investigation into the contents of this vaccine because it is not what they say it is.
The government never gives us anything for free.
Where's my free insulin shot?
Where's my free hepatitis C shot?
Where's anything else that could have helped us?
Oh, this one's free.
This one will help you.
It doesn't even work.
People really need to start asking questions, Sean.
Thank you for your time.
I just wanted to.
Well, I can tell you, people are asking questions.
And, you know, a lot of the vaccine hesitancy that I see out there, and I've said ad nauseum, what I believe people should do.
Take it seriously.
Research on your own so you can ask informed questions of your doctor.
Know your medical history, your current medical condition.
Talk to your doctor.
You know, if you get a positive COVID test, you know, immediately ask your doctor about what therapeutics are available.
What are monoclonal antibodies?
Should I get the infusion?
You know, you got to educate yourself.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not going to play one on radio or TV.
And I also believe at the end of the day, in freedom, I have very strong people, strong feelings that people, you need to take this sucker seriously.
I have seen really bad things as a result of this virus.
I don't want any of you in this audience ever getting sick.
I want you to be smart.
I want you to be informed.
I want you to be thorough.
I want you to talk to doctor, doctors, every medical professional you trust.
And at some point, the decision is going to come down to you.
And you got to make that decision, factoring in your health, your medical history, your family, every way you work, what you do.
I cannot tell people, there's no one-size-fits-all medicine in my life.
I don't believe that really is scientific.
But I urge people to be very careful with this thing.
It's over 700,000 people dead.
And I know many other people that survived it, but barely.
I have a very close friend whose mother was on a ventilator for 40 days.
And I literally was calling every single day myself to get updates.
And I actually brought in to help the situation a ventilator expert because the ventilators are one of the most complicated pieces of machinery that's ever been described to me.
And again, I'm not an expert, but I went through 40 days of hell.
And thank God this person's mother, friend of mine, is okay.
And, you know, it took all hands on deck to save this woman's life.
So please be careful.
Please pay attention and learn, research, ask smart questions of your doctors when you talk to them.
Shane is in Florida.
Shane, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Happy Friday.
Glad you're with us.
Oh, good to be with you, sir.
Just wanted a quick real quick, give me a shout out to you and your folks at Fox for 25 years.
That's pretty awesome.
Well, I appreciate it.
Yeah, you guys are doing a great job.
That's the only news channel that we allow in our house.
So I grew up in Santa Cruz, California.
Doesn't really get any more crazy left-wing than that.
I don't know if you've ever been, but I highly recommend you never go.
It's pretty crazy.
It's a beautiful thing.
Listen, New York City is pretty comparable, so I understand it better than you think.
Well, this is where I've got you there, too.
So got to about 16, 17 years old.
My father decided to relocate to upstate New York.
So being a youth, I had to go with him.
So we just traded one hellhole for another, basically.
I didn't really start paying attention to the world I live in and politics until PDT came in.
That's what I call him, President Donald Trump, PDT.
It really opened my eyes.
The amazing thing when someone who isn't a politician and they get their hands on the country and they run it the way it should be.
So being that I know how California runs things, New York always follows suit.
It used to take years for them to catch up to what California was doing, but with how fast the world moves, it's months, if not weeks now.
So I kept my eye on California at the beginning of the pandemic.
And when I saw what they were doing, I knew that it was coming for New York next.
So I got ahead of it.
I packed up and I moved to Florida.
Took my girlfriend at the time, my fiancé now.
We have a beautiful daughter.
Congratulations.
Ever since we got to Florida, life is a completely 180 for the better.
Complete difference.
Freedom.
You can taste the freedom.
Listen, I get off a plane when I'm visiting Florida.
I'm like, I just can't believe life is so much better.
And if I go in the wintertime, you get off the plane and it's like, oh, I can breathe.
It's like this sense of relief that's almost indescribable.
It's really overwhelming sometimes.
And even being here for a little over a year now, my fiancé and I will look at each other like, I can't believe we're here.
I cannot believe how much better life is.
Now, one thing that we are experiencing, just like everyone else, is the supply chain thing.
I don't have enough time to get into this, but I want to emphasize something you're saying here because I'm not far behind you.
It's just for me, I have contractual issues that I have to deal with.
But I applaud your strength to make a decision and to hear that it's worked out so well for you.
I'm happy for you.
You know what?
Happiness eludes a lot of people in life.
And I don't want anybody to be unhappy.
I think happiness is rooted in God, faith, family, country.
And these are troubling times for our country.
But you have more control over your faith and more control over your family as you are showing us here with this decision.
And God bless you for making it.
And I hope we can catch up on more issues in the future.
Okay, my friend?
I would love to call you if it's all right.
All right, Shane.
Yes, any day.
We'd love to have you call back.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
I know a disappointing week.
Republicans United for two months.
McConnell caves.
And now we have a new deadline, December 3rd.
That'll probably be the next cave date of McConnell, probably December 1st, if it fits the pattern that just happened.
Anyway, we will not forget our trapped Americans in Afghanistan behind enemy lines.
By Monday, it will be day 58.
Joe Biden never talks about it.
He'll be out all weekend in Delaware.
Anyway, we'll have the latest on that, the latest on the economy, the latest on week Republicans, and all the information you'll never get from the media mob.
Anyway, have a great weekend.
We'll be back on Monday.
We'll see you then.
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