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Aug. 4, 2021 - Sean Hannity Show
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David Schoen, Gregg Jarrett and the Battle To Save Your Freedom.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
One thing a lot of people have not focused on that was stated by the Attorney General in New York and the announcement as it relates to uh Governor Andrew Cuomo is that she was very clear that her findings show that the governor violated both New York state law and federal criminal law.
The Albany County DA has said that Governor Cuomo is under a criminal investigation, and this has yet to deal with anything regarding the nursing home cover up with COVID.
Now the question is will you know will it matter to Andrew Cuomo?
He seemed defiant yesterday.
We bring in our our legal team, David Schoen, Civil Liberties attorney.
Uh Greg Jarrett is the host of the brief.
Uh it's a podcast.
Also Fox News legal analyst wrote his two number one bestsellers, the Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt.
Uh Greg, I read your column.
You you've identified specific criminal statutes.
Yeah, more than sufficient grounds, Sean, for Andrew Cuomo to be criminally charged by the elected district attorney David Suarez.
All you have to do is take a look at penal code section one thirty point five two.
And by the way, everybody, just hang on a second.
Everyone go through your penal code and find 130.52.
Okay, go ahead.
Pull it up and I'll quote it directly.
It's time to quote forcibly touch the sexual or other intimate parts of another person against their will.
Not only is that statute very specific, but if you look up case law that interprets this statute in New York, it identifies groping and fondling as forcible touching a crime.
So uh and and if it it is considered to be forcible if it is unwanting.
Well, that that's exactly what several of these victims allege.
But it's also uh sexual assault and battery, both in common law and under uh state statute.
You know, if you lift the blouse uh of a woman and fondle her breasts against her will without consent, uh that's assault and battery.
And finally, there's also people don't know this, but there's also in New York uh the crime of harassment.
If you uh touch somebody in a sexual way and leave them in fear and trepidation of further aggression, that's a crime called harassment.
So I I I think that you know Andrew Cuomo is looking at serious uh potential criminal charges, not to mention the federal investigation into obstruction of justice, cooking the books, lying about COVID deaths to prevent a federal investigation.
That is classic obstruction of justice.
Uh your take, David Schoen.
Yeah, I mean it's very comprehensive coverage by Greg, as usual, and very important.
You know, if you look at the report starting on page one hundred forty, it kind of talks about the various uh statutory problems that Governor Cuomo has and so on.
But uh listen, there's all kinds of civil liability here also if these people decide to sue.
I would assume he might try to make some kind of a deal to avoid criminal charges by stepping down, but you know that that's I guess in the future.
Right now he's taking a hardcore position.
Remember, we have both kinds of uh a couple of varieties of sexual harassment the law recognizes.
We have a hostile workplace environment, and we have quid pro quo.
That is, if you do this for me, I will do that for you.
Um this report is filled with both varieties in graphic detail.
Um and I have to tell you they you know they put a pretty good team on this thing.
Um I mentioned before I did a case with my associated this uh Ann Clark's law firm, Judith Flatdock was the leader of that firm, very strong firm on discrimination cases.
I had a religious discrimination case I associated them in with, and uh we won the case.
So that it's a comprehensive job.
I will say this, and I I I think this is classic.
It marks these investigations.
Um I don't think that Letitia James, Attorney General, should have had a prominent role.
She was smart to appoint independent uh investigators here, but she's also getting Mileage out of this thing, and it's a classic conflict that we seem to see characterize all of these kinds of political investigations.
She wants to be governor by all accounts.
She should steer clear of this thing now.
But we we see this in everything.
We see the January 6th Commission, it just they just don't seem to recognize conflicts too well in the Democratic Party right now.
Now the the Albany um district attorney, um uh the Albany DA's name is David Sores, he announced that he had launched the probe, urged any potential victims to cooperate with his office and saying we will conduct our investigation as discreetly as possible.
Um now he also told MBC News that the hundred and sixty-eight page report had led myself and other prosecutors with concurrent jurisdiction to believe the criminal activity in fact has taken place, and the most serious allegations made against Cuomo involves the November sixteenth incident at the executive mansion in Albany, where he's accused of putting his hand under the shirt of a female aide, and and she was very specific in what happened.
Now I know we have eleven women here, but we also have had instances where false or unproven claims are made.
Look at the case of Justice Kavanaugh.
Um, as I always say, Greg, and I'm always consistent.
I don't rush to judgment.
I believe in innocence until proven guilty, the presumption of innocence.
I believe um that that people have a right to due process.
Um if it's one woman or two women or whatever, I mean, when you get to eleven, i i it takes on another whole level of of importance and uh a whole level of you know how how widespread something like this is, but there are some times when you've got to withhold judgment.
It seems like this is overwhelming evidence in the case of Cuomo.
It's one story after another, it seems to be, you know, a p a serial pattern of his.
Um, but uh when you get into a court of law or maybe even the civil side of this, which might well, I assume will be coming, you know, how do you prove all of this?
Well, some of these uh alleged incidents uh are corroborated um both with uh documentation uh and witnesses.
That was the important part of uh, you know, the 168-page report.
Total of a hundred and seventy-nine interviews were conducted.
And there are some witnesses to some of these.
Forty-seven thousand pieces of evidence were examined.
Uh, and this very fine team, as David points out, of uh investigative lawyers uh were meticulous as they described the unwanted groping, kissing, and hugging, the highly sexualized uh comments.
With respect to the incident in the mansion that you and I both uh are talking about here, yes, it becomes a he said she said, but corroborating evidence uh can be provided not by a percipient instantaneous witness, but by communications that the alleged victim made uh to others that confirm uh what happened.
That goes to the credibility of the accuser.
Like for example, there is one uh the one of the eleven women said, you know, almost in real time, as soon as it happened, she has saved text messages, right sending to a friend, oh my God, you're not gonna believe what just happened, and explained it in detail as the the minute after it happened.
How how powerful would that be?
Well, it's extremely powerful and persuasive and compelling.
And I, you know, I think it's correct for the DA to say uh officially to the Attorney General, please provide me all of it.
All of the evidence you have gathered, the documentation, the photographs, the interview transcripts, which I presume were under oath, since this was an investigation conducted by the state attorney general.
Uh and and armed with that uh pleth of evidence, I think that the DA will begin to make some decisions.
One of the first ones will be, well, I want to talk to these uh women myself, which is not unreasonable at all.
He has to test their credibility if he is the prosecutor.
what did you think David shown because while while on the one hand, Governor Cuomo was saying, Oh, well, I don't want trial in the media.
On the other hand, he played these video tapes of of him, you know, doing this face holding kissing thing that he does uh with with all sorts of people and showing other politicians doing the same.
It seemed like he was almost trying to try the case in the media himself in terms of creating a defense.
Well, I do this all the time, and this is not unusual for me.
Oh, absolutely.
He's been trying to try the media in the case.
You know, the Washington Post report months ago that he enlisted his brother as a strategist.
His brother was given intelligence information and was called on to strategize on a media uh presentation to make.
So we know that's going on.
I want to back up one step.
You know, you said something very important, many things are important.
One of the most important is something you have said since I've known you, and that is we don't rush your judgment.
We wait and we've applied due process and so on.
You're a hundred percent right with that.
In this case, I must say though, uh Governor Cuomo is the one who said this report would be the be all and end all.
He's been saying for a couple months now, guys, don't pass judgment.
Wait until the report comes out.
That report would be his due process, he said.
So uh the report didn't work out the way he had hoped, I suppose.
But you know, he's gonna have to eat that, I think, at some point.
But it's clear that he's playing the case in the media.
And listen, his defense so far has been like his father.
They're very warm, huggy, touchy, kissy sort of folks.
And you know, he says he's old fashioned and all that.
I uh the the incident you've described goes a little beyond that, as does even the state trooper incident.
That kind of touching is is a little bit behind, I think, just sort of old timey, you know, uh patrician hugging somebody, just you know, and warmth.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more with David Schoen, Greg Jarrett on the other side, eight hundred nine four one Sean, our number right to the phones in our final half hour today.
All right, as we continue, David Schoen, Greg Jarrett, uh well, Andrew Cuomo faced criminal charges.
Greg, you are adamant that that his video montages damaged him and hurt him, and it was you know, widely ridiculed all over social media.
Why do you believe legally it didn't help him?
Well, it's like saying I I was inappropriate with everybody, so it's okay for me to be inappropriate uh with these eleven women.
It's okay for me to fondle them.
Uh we didn't see any um video or photographs of him uh groping a woman's breasts or grabbing a woman's posterior or touching the wheel.
He was dealing specifically with the one photo of a Christmas party with a very young staffer whose face he grabbed and and for it I mean there's great force behind grabbing somebody's face and neck like that.
Right and and kissing them.
I mean, I uh it to me it just creeps me out.
Oh, it is the point is he's in a position of power.
That that's you know, one of the overriding factors here is he's in a position of power.
He can keep their job, lose their job, he can promote them or otherwise, and that's implicit in every action in that kind of relationship.
If his defense is I kissed Al Gore, so it's okay for me to kiss any woman I want to against their will without consent, good luck with that defense.
You know, I I I just uh i it's gonna be interesting to see how this goes.
Now you said something that also struck uh struck me here, and that is well, he might I David, you made the point.
He might resign and and that might mitigate the criminal charges, and I'm like, well, hang on a second.
That doesn't happen in the real world, does it?
Right.
Right.
That no, I mean that's a special kind of deal.
And uh I I think I think people are gonna raise uh a lot of ruckus if that kind of thing happens.
But you know, if he's smart, it's something he should explore from the start.
How's he gonna cut his losses in this thing?
Uh otherwise it's gonna be with him the rest of his life.
I mean, I mean, I uh uh look, it'll be with him the rest of his life anyway, but I mean specifically, you know, having to face lawsuits, possible criminal charges, he should try to cut his losses as quickly and as fully as possible.
Yeah, but two to one New Yorkers think he should go.
All New York Democratic politicians are now saying it.
Pelosi and Biden are saying it.
Uh his own lieutenant governor uh uh who happens to be a female calls him repulsive.
What uh what rights do the women have here?
According to the the Albany DA, nobody has filed a criminal complaint yet.
Now that has to happen first.
They're investigating it, but wouldn't they need cooperation from the the women involved in this?
Sure, they would.
And may they may just have decided they don't want to pursue that.
Frankly would help their civil cases if they do, if they're planning to bring civil cases.
Listen, some of these women, you know, may have made the complaint not recognizing uh how far this thing was going to go.
And then people started coming out of the woodwork.
That's usually, you know, how these things go.
That's also why, as you said, you have to be careful because people do another question.
If they have these civil cases, who's gonna pay?
Cuomo or the New York taxpayer.
Uh it would be both.
They they would both be named defendants.
Uh, you know, because Cuomo uh was governor, uh, the conduct occurred in the course and and scope, although not, you know, obviously the intended course and scope of any governor.
Uh, but you know, you can bet that uh the deep pocket here uh is really the state of New York.
Uh I gotta let end it there.
We're just out of time.
Well, more on this tonight on Hannity.
Uh Greg Jarrett, thank you.
David Schoen, thank you.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
We're gonna get to your calls in in just a second here.
Um it was interesting to watch.
You know, one of the governors, remember, schools and in person learning has gone on in Florida for an entire year.
While all of the draconian shutdown states have been nothing but unmitigated disaster uh policies on business and schools and kids and its impact.
You can't, it's incalculable at this time.
And of course, oh, Joe Biden saying uh that uh Cuomo is the gold standard on COVID.
No, not exactly, Joe, your buddy.
And so anyway, so Biden and Gensaki start attacking Governor Ron DeSantis, and to DeSantis's credit, he fights back.
Uh, why don't you do your job?
Why don't you get the this border secure?
And until you do that, I don't really want to hear a blip about COVID from you.
Thank you very much.
Listen to Biden, Saki and then DeSantis's uh retort.
The escalation of cases is particularly concentrated in states with low vaccination rates.
Just two states.
Florida and Texas account for one third of all new COVID 19 cases in the entire country.
Just two states.
Look, we need leadership from everyone.
If some governors aren't willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, then they should allow businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do it.
I say to these governors, please help.
But you're not going to help, at least get out of the way.
The people are trying to do the right thing.
Use your power to save lives.
I would say first, if there Florida's not the only state, um, seven states have both a statewide ban on mask mandates and a prohibition on school districts from requiring masks in schools.
Uh, and some states have even banned businesses and universities from requiring workers and students to be vaccinated.
In fact, the most extreme of these measures is in Texas, uh, where uh you can be fined.
Uh professor or teacher can be fined if they ask a student if they are vaccinated, or if they ask uh unvaccinated students uh to wear masks.
Uh and I think the fundamental question we have is uh what are we doing here?
And I will note most Republican governors are doing exactly the right thing uh and and doing and advocating for and taking steps to advocate for more people to get vaccinated.
But if you aren't going to help, if you aren't going to abide by public health guidance, then get out of the way and let people do the right thing to lead in their communities, whether they are teachers, university leaders, private sector leaders, or others who are trying to save lives.
Why don't you do your job?
Why don't you get this border secure?
And until you do that, I don't want to hear a blip about COVID from you.
Thank you.
Exactly.
I mean, it's like, are you serious?
You know, record numbers now, it's you know, a twenty-five, it's gonna end up being a 30-year record of illegal immigrants coming into the country in the middle of a pandemic, and he's testing nobody.
I read today, oh, Joe is now Thinking about giving the Johnson and Johnson shot or offering it to people at the border.
Thanks, Joe.
Gee, a little late, Joe.
And then pretty much people were told by border patrol sources that they get to pick the state, the city that they want to be driven to, and and Joe's paying for it.
But that's not really Joe paying for it, that's you paying for it.
All right, to our phones we go.
Let's say hi to Jimmy's in Wisconsin.
Jim, hi, glad you called.
Welcome to the show.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Hey, I was listening to your show yesterday with the doctors.
And then oh, I had a question and a big concern.
Um, but just one thing.
Uh the guy that Brett from Auburn who called, I just want to say roll tide.
Anyway.
Okay, you're gonna start a fight with other go you go ahead and you start your you know, roll tide, war eagle fight.
I've you know, I I'll turn the whole show over to that if I open those doors.
Well, well, my daughter's uh graduates in December from Alabama.
But anyway, so congratulations, you should be proud.
Very much so, thank you.
Back in March, I was vaccinated, and then um this past Sunday I came down with one symptom.
I lost my sense of taste.
So I go in Monday morning and I get the uh the rapid test, and I'm waiting there, and the doctor walks in, gives me the news, goes, Yeah, you have it.
I said, Well, now what?
She goes, Well, you probably won't get any more symptoms.
I said, respiratory, everything else.
She goes, No, no, because you've been vaccinated.
I said, Well, that's not what I'm saying.
Can I ask you a question?
How long had you been vaccinated at that point?
Uh my first Pfizer shot was late March, the second one was a week later in early April.
Okay, so it was a while ago.
Yeah, yeah.
But she still says that's fine because I'm vaccinated.
But here's here's what gets me.
Um she's telling me that.
Well, the other thing is she goes, I want you to quarantine, which I am up here in northern Wisconsin, just south of Lake Superior.
And she said that you're not you're not a super spreader.
You're not gonna be a spreader.
I said, Well, wait a minute.
Fauci and Fauci and CDC and Biden administration are telling us we are big spreaders despite being vaccinated.
Who do you believe?
Great question.
I mean, uh, you know what the answer is sadly, I don't I can't believe anybody anymore.
I don't trust any of them.
Um I gotta trust my doctor.
So when did you test positive?
Um Monday, this Monday, two days ago, Monday morning.
Look, I'm not gonna tell you what to do because I don't play doctor.
If if it if I were you in your position, I can say that the advice given by the doctors yesterday, the advice that they gave to one of my best friends on Saturday, the advice they gave last week to another friend who was unvaccinated in Georgia, and his wife and then two kids, they all got it.
Um but he's 74 years old, is his wife is older also.
Within 24 hours of their diagnosis, they had the regeneron infusion, and then they followed the protocol that Dr. Farid was talking about, which included first regeneron, then ivermectin, HCQ, and they include in that vitamin D3, vitamin C, zinc, and and other things.
Uh uh, you know, we'll put it up on our website so you have access to it.
But I if you're asking what I would do, it would be what they said yesterday, but I'm not telling you what to do.
You need to check with your own doctor.
You really do.
I'm not, I don't know your I don't know anything about your medical condition history.
I don't know any of that.
Yeah.
I mean by the way, I'm not this is not a CYA.
This is just I just don't know.
I'm not I'm I'm not qualified enough beyond that, to be honest.
But what what about the spreader part?
I mean, why did Fauci tell us we're super spreaders?
If you just got COVID and you tested positive on Monday, you in my opinion, you better quarantine.
Now I can tell you look at the case in Georgia of a guy's a friend of mine, been a friend of mine for 20 years, and he's 74.
He's and he's not in the best shape that he should be in, but he's in decent shape.
And so he got it, and I was glad, you know, somebody ratted him out to me and told me, and I called him, I said, What's going on?
And then I got him in touch with these doctors.
He got the Regeneron within 24 hours, but okay, he had it first, and three days later his wife had it, and then two days after that his son had it, and then three days after that, his daughter had it.
So my goodness.
You know, that that that's one example that's just happened here.
Um, you know, uh on Fauci.
I mean, we've played the flip-flop montage a million times.
You know, I let me just remind people how do you trust this guy?
This is why, you know, they acted in the mo mob in the media this week like it was something new.
I'm saying that it's time for him to go and should be fired.
But I've been saying it.
Listen.
People should not be walking around with masks.
Let me just state for the record that masks are not theater.
Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better.
And masks are protective.
But it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
There has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects.
There are unintended consequences.
People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
And can you get some schmutz sort of staying inside there?
Of course.
You do not need to wear a mask indoors if in fact you've been vaccinated.
Good that you're vaccinated, but in a situation where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should wear a mask.
So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a mask.
If in fact you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, you are protected, and you do not need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors.
When the children go out into the community, you want them to continue to wear masks.
You know, if you look at uh children outside, particularly when they're with the family uh walking down the street playing a game or what have you, don't have to wear a mask.
The the the pediatric, the academy of pediatric, actually makes that recommendation that children should be wearing masks uh from two years old onwards.
And you you're asking now if your child is a member of your household, can you walk outdoors with your child without a mask?
According to that chart, the answer is yes.
But the child can't not to beat it beat it to death.
Yes, yes, as now the CDC says, I mean, I think I've got this right.
One mask is better than zero masks.
Two masks is better than one mask, but you don't have to have double masks.
Is that right?
I mean, it became clear that cloth coverings that you didn't have to buy in a store that you could make yourself were adequate.
And then you want it to fit better.
So one of the ways you could do it if you would like to is put a cloth mask over, which actually here and here and here where you could get leakage in is much better contained.
Are you a double masker, Dr. Fauci?
Look like you are.
It's very, very strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.
So I wanted to ask, are you still confident that it developed naturally?
No, I'm not convinced uh about that.
I think that we should continue to investigate what went on in China.
I mean, do you want to trust that guy?
No.
He now, the guys we had on yesterday, one Harvard Medical School, we've had other Harvard, we'd have Yale Yale doctors, the L educated doctors.
You know, again, I and there are people we've had on who I don't even agree with.
I'm just trying to give the information so you can make the right decision.
Uh I would tell you that my experience in the last week is these breakthrough cases are real, and that Delta is is far more contagious, and one of the most underutilized weapons that we we've not been using it enough is Regeneron, in my opinion, and the dot in this the doctors we had on yesterday.
I'd urge you to go to your doctor that you trust, and I'd say, uh, I tested positive.
Am I contagious?
Um, I would think the answer is a yes.
And then you want to protect the people you love.
If I knew I had it, everyone get away from me.
Don't come near me.
That would that's my answer.
Stay away from me.
I don't need a thing.
That's my you know, maybe I need you to drop off food and put it on my doorstep or something.
That's it.
Just I don't want anyone here.
Good advice.
All right, hang in.
Listen, I'm I'm sorry you gotta go through it.
Um the one good news, even in Provincetown, there were very few of the 500 people, 74% of which were vaccinated, that tested positive.
And we better study what happened there and understand it so it doesn't happen again.
Uh that that that needs to be investigated deeply and quickly.
But um if you had the the shot and you get in the Delta variant, and uh your breakthrough case is what you statistically we will call you.
Um the symptoms the level of hospitalization is very low, and it's also it's it doesn't seem to be killing people.
I mean, I that I know that's not the most comforting answer, but at least that's what that's what the science is showing us today.
And I'm just sharing the information that I've read.
They only have the one symptom loss of taste, nothing else.
Yeah.
By the way, that that's gotta suck.
I know people that have had that don't get it back for nine months.
It's awful.
Oh, don't tell me that.
Well, those are the long haulers.
It's it does happen, though.
Um, anyway, hang in there.
Um and I really am.
I'm sorry.
I don't want anyone to get this.
Um, I know people that have struggled.
You know, a very good friend of mine's brother's 50, what, 61 years old, just got put on a ventilator at at 7 a.m. this morning.
I know my friend Phil Valentine.
Um, I've been following the case.
We've been friends for for decades.
He's a colleague, talk radio host in Nashville.
Uh love him, love his brother, love his family.
Um, we've kind of gotten out of contact in recent years, but my feelings for him have never changed.
He's just an awesome guy.
And then I saw last night, Linda.
Did you see that?
They say I'm and I've been reading about it and following it, and they're saying it doesn't look good.
And um, they're asking people to pray for a miracle.
The family is.
And I used to I used to give his brother such a hard time out of fun, and we had a great time together, all of us, and I'm just praying that for that miracle for them.
And we're thinking of their family and friends today, and and I know he has so many fans, he's a great patriot.
And you know, people were saying, well, he was an anti-vaxxer, now he's telling people to that he was wrong.
I'm like, okay, if you want to focus on that, how about we focus on maybe getting him well and letting him tell his story?
That would be my hope and and dream at this point, not politicize, you know, the fact that he might have had a different opinion than you.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for us today.
Uh, we've got a great show tonight.
Hannity on the Fox News channel.
Uh we'll continue.
Yep.
Mandatory vaccinations, mandatory passports, no exceptions.
Um, this will disproportionately and negatively impact minority communities.
Uh, and it's all happening because of Democrats that want to preserve your freedom by mandating you get vaccinated.
Does that make sense?
We have Senator Ted Cruz, we have Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Don Jr., Donald Trump Jr., the great one, Mark Levin, and Mark McCloskey.
He got a pardon as the governor had promised me in Missouri.
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