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Well, looks like kids in cages are back, not cages this time.
They look a little like a mobile home, but they're not mobile homes.
You know those big cargo containers, these big shipping cargo containers that you see at the docks, wherever, if you've seen images, if you haven't been there yourself, yeah, the kids are in there with bars on the tiny windows that they have.
And the big lie of the media was Donald Trump has kids in cages.
The cages were built by Biden and Obama in 2014.
The images, the mob, the media showed at the time.
Yeah, those were images from the Biden Obama administration.
Unbelievable, breathtaking, sick, ugly, twisted hypocrisy on every level.
More testimony.
Oh, the insurrection was pre-planned.
Uh, okay, that's why you don't have a snap impeachment.
That's why you do an investigation first.
That's why you get your facts first.
We'll get to that today.
Um, we're gonna go into great detail of what is the radical democratic socialist biggest power grab, and that is how they want to forever change elections and how they take place in this country.
We'll get we'll get to all of that.
Um, and we have a lot of other details that we've got to get to.
The coronavirus, Fauci, Cuomo, big trouble for both of them.
I'm I've had it with Fauci.
I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I tried.
The guy spent decades of his life trying to help save lives.
This guy has been more wrong more often than anybody else.
Now he's playing politics in pretty much every interview.
And the person that did a lot more right than he did ended up being Donald Trump.
The governors that got it right, it wasn't Cuomo with his big power points and Gavin Newsom.
No, it ended up being people like Ron DeSantis in Florida with a much higher elderly population.
And he he the one thing that remained consistent and he stayed most dedicated to is protecting the elderly, and it worked.
Vaccine distribution, a buddy of mine in Florida got it at their local public grocery store.
What the hell am I doing living in this state of New York?
I don't know.
I'm out of my mind.
I'd need to renegotiate my contract, like yesterday.
Um, so we got a lot to get to today.
So when we were in the election season, and I started playing these montages about Joe Biden.
All these truths to be self-evident, all men are created and women are created equal, endowed by the uh the thing.
Oh, you know the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing.
And then uh, you know, we choose truth over facts.
Isn't that mean this the super Thursday?
And uh the it just got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
And I said all throughout the campaign, you know, he's in the candidate protection program hiding in his basement bunker.
I I was telling you the truth.
You had big tech protecting any negative stories.
There was a poll out in the last week that showed that About one in six voters that voted for Biden likely would have voted differently had they known what big tech was covering up for Joe and zero experience Hunter.
Okay, well, that was an effort at protecting Joe Biden because their one commonality is their rage and psychotic hatred of all things Donald Trump.
And then I said, this this guy he's lost.
If he ever had a fastball, he lost it.
He doesn't even have a change up or a slow pitch at this point.
The guy that I saw four years ago when he left office, or you go back 10 years and you play a tape of Joe Biden, it is a dramatic decline in terms of he looks weak, and I'm allowed to have my own observations, right?
And they didn't say much during the campaign, as I often referred to Joe as weak and frail and struggling cognitively.
And I stand behind it today.
All of a sudden he becomes president.
All these articles start showing up, the hate Hannity crowd out there, which is pretty much every second, every minute, every hour of every day, which I don't care about.
But you know, Hannity, can you believe he called Joe Biden weak and frail?
Well, let me be very blunt here.
Uh Bernie Sanders doesn't look weak and frail to me.
I know he had a heart attack, but you know what?
People recover from heart attacks.
He seems like he's got it all together.
He's pushing his radical socialism, redistributionism, statism, authoritarianism as passionately as he's ever done.
I don't see a single change in Bernie Sanders from 10 years ago.
None.
Same energy level, same passion.
He's he's equally as articulate and in and pushing his liberal views.
And, you know, Donald Trump's, you know, he's around the same age.
This guy's got more energy than 50 guys, 30 years old.
It's insane.
I don't see that in Joe.
I see that he's weak and frail, and I see that he is struggling cognitively.
So the, you know, the latest example, I mean, this guy, pretty bizarre, is, you know, he's in the middle of an interview.
He loses his place, and then it's admits that he always carry around the the cheat sheet.
Listen to this.
I promise you, we are going to together beat this.
And uh, and I think that uh I uh, you know, but the idea that um over 500 niggas I have a card.
I carry a card on me every day with the total number of folks who have been affected by the uh as of uh yesterday, there are 500,071 people who died from this.
My hand, what, my handlers give me a card.
It's kind of easy to remember the number.
We've lost a half a million people in this country from COVID.
Just like when he was giving out the statistics.
By the summer, we're going to give three gonna have 300 Americans vaccinated by summer over the summer.
Let me be clear.
And then he says it again with the same mistake that 300 Americans will get the vaccine.
Uh huh.
This is like an everyday event with him.
Now, I'm not making a medical diagnosis.
I don't know anything about Joe except my observations that he looks weak and he looks frail, and that he's he's struggling cognitively in ways that I never saw before.
I mean, well, what's on the note card?
Is it does he print out his name and address and contact information for Jill Biden, his wife?
You know, my address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue if he ever gets lost.
You know, I it's it's a little scary to me.
And I'm gonna tell you something.
Don't think for a second.
There's a couple of things I'm worried about because there's a lot of evil in the world stage, a lot of hostile regimes, a lot of hostile actors.
He could start with Putin and Russia.
You can go to President Chi and China.
You can go to the Mullers in Iran and start there.
Other countries, we're gonna be making these countries rich as we now get out of the energy business.
And in the meantime, Americans are out of work, but we'll be legalizing, you know, 11, 12, 15 million illegal immigrants that'll be competing for The few jobs that show up that are available as a result of the pandemic and draconian shutdowns and businesses closing their doors forever and rebuilding the economy.
So now that's just going to drive wages down, but with such callousness and a stroke of a pen, we're taking away career, high-paying career jobs with with skills, a skill specific set of trained, you know, individuals.
It kills me that they're losing their job.
It's it just with the callousness by which, well, we want you to get another union job with uh with uh benefits.
Okay, where?
Tell me where it's how do I get that job at the same pay with the same benefits now that I've given up working what 30 years of my life and and I want to send my kids to college, and I'd like to have a little bit more than Social Security in my bank account when I finally retire.
Oh crap, I just bought a new house and a new truck.
It's killing it with just callousness, the whole everybody that speaks about it.
Oh, the Green New Deal is more important.
No, it's not more important to them.
It's not.
And this is now what's happening.
You know, I uh now here's a strange thing that happened here.
You've got dozens of House Democrats want Biden.
Now we have a constitution.
I know Joe Biden doesn't even want to factor in that we have supposedly coequal branches of government.
We do have this other branch of government known as the legislative branch.
He himself had once said, and we played it many times that he's not a dictator.
I need the votes, I gotta get the votes.
Well, he's not getting the votes with all the executive actions he's pushing forward.
And now there's a little thing called the constitution.
We have one commander in chief.
That's the president.
Now you got about three dozen House Democrats signing a letter asking Biden.
Now, I've never heard about this at any point, and I've been now on radio 33 years.
I've been on Fox 25.
I can't recall a time or even reading about a time where people are saying that they want the president to renounce the sole authority as commander in chief.
You hear about the nuclear football, but to renounce his sole authority to launch nuclear weapons, according to these reports.
And a promise from the president to give up his nuclear capabilities as commander-in-chief would take away the same power from future presidents.
No, that we have a constitution.
You don't get to just shred it like that.
But my question is, why did Democrats, not even Republicans?
Why are Democrats saying this?
I mean, it's getting very, very frustrating.
Got a report out today as if the 150, you know, billion dollars, million dollars, billion, I forget what it was, in cash and other currency that they dropped on the tarmac for the mullahs in Iran.
Well, now they want it was now they're asking the Biden administration working with South Korea, consulting them so that they will release $7 billion in assets to Iranian mullahs that defied the quote agreement of the last time and are back to enriching uranium.
And they're gonna if we don't stop them soon, they're gonna get nuclear weapons.
Why do you think that Donald Trump was able to get all these peace deals in the Middle East with the UAE and all the why is there an alliance that five years was unthinkable before with the Saudis and the Egyptians and Jordanians and America and Israel and UAE?
Why?
Because all of them see the existential threat that is Iran and all fear Iranian hegemony in the region, and all know that the Iranian mullahs, yeah, they're a converter-dive group of people running that country.
That's why they're all aligned and partnering even with Israel.
Alliances we never saw possible before.
And now we're gonna pressure the South Koreans to release $7 billion to the mullahs in Iran.
This is insanity.
AP reporting that their early efforts they want to resurrect the deal that gave them 150 billion and cash and other currency.
Unreal.
And Biden can't even approve a statewide disaster for all of Texas.
You know, well, we'll only do 70 of the 264 counties.
Maybe add an additional 31.
Big deal.
It's the whole state that needs assistance.
Anyway, they want Biden to relinquish sole control of the nuclear arsenal.
Why don't we just take the Constitution and shred the damn thing?
Because that's pretty much what you're asking them to do.
He's the command.
We have one commander in chief.
One.
What do they know that we don't know?
Why would Democrats want that?
It's bizarre.
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Oh, Peter Ducy, a Fox devastated uh Gensaki.
I'm gonna get into this whole immigration issue on the other side of this.
By the way, T-9, John Kerry saying nine years left to save the earth.
And there's no new timeline for the apocalypse.
Kerry says humanity is nine years left.
Well, maybe he ought to communicate that to China, India, you know, people that aren't a part of this ridiculous uh Paris climate accord because they're viewed as developing nations, and we bear the brunt of financing this to the tune of hundreds of millions and millions of dollars.
Uh, you know, we end up paying China pays next to nothing.
Next to nothing.
Why would we why why do they get developing nation status?
When they're the by far bigger polluters than we are here in the U.S., as we have actually done a good job, according to the scientists, the experts.
Um, unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Um I'm looking at all of this.
I I am, I just can't get this out of my head.
That Democrats don't want Biden to unilaterally and mean think about this, unilaterally give up his role as commander-in-chief.
By the way, you're also Joe Biden weighing executive order on gun control.
7 billion in Iranian assets, they're pressuring South Korea to hand over to the Iranians.
Uh, there was a Washington Times piece how the Biden team colluded with Iran to foil Trump diplomacy.
I've been reading about this for days.
I just haven't had time to bring it up.
That while the president was trying to pressure Iran into giving in and sanctions, etc., etc.
and get the UN to have sanctions.
John Kerry, apparently, and some people in Biden's team were meeting with the English-speaking foreign minister of Iran, Mohammed Zarif, meeting with Robert O'Malley, Obama's Middle East advisor, John Kerry, apparently part of uh all of this.
Well, that's a direct undermining of American foreign policy.
If it happened under Donald Donald Trump, guess what?
That would be viewed as, you know, some type of illegal contact uh contact, and there would be consequences.
All right, we're gonna get to this devastating question by Peter Ducy next.
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Um, there's this what's now developing on the southern border is extremely serious and significant.
Now, all of these policies, first and foremost, you must understand.
Well, we'll get people pretty much the the Biden plan will try and get as many people as citizens to have eligibility within three years.
Wow.
What happens in year four?
Oh, that would be an election.
How convenient.
But that's just a cynical part of me.
I'm sure there's no connection at all, whatsoever in any way.
Now, we have ICE and Border Patrol.
Literally, they they just stopped construction.
More, by the way, more people out of work.
So then you're gonna legalize millions and millions of people that didn't respect our laws and our sovereignty and our borders, and and that's part of the plan.
The catch and release is back.
ICE can't even detain people the way they used to.
But it's so it's all basically everything that we thought would happen.
You got the House and Senate GOP, is you got Biden's, I guess, what's this guy's name?
Uh, the former California Attorney General, Xavier Basierra, uh is gonna be Health and Human Services Secretary.
Yeah, he voiced his support for taxpayer-funded health care benefits for illegal immigrants.
As if we can really afford that on top of the horrific pandemic bill that they're they're ramming through, monies of which won't be spent till 2022 or 2024, and every liberal pet socialist project dream is included.
I mean, it's just it's just an atrocious pill, waste fraud, and abuse, not earmarked for the people that desperately need help, that have been waiting for the help, that aren't getting the help.
I mean, what has Biden really done in the in the first month in office?
Not a whole lot except sign executive orders put in front of him.
So you got this situation now unfolding at the southern border.
You've got the head of ICE and others now warning to expect a massive influx of illegal immigration into the country.
Uh we don't have the stay in Mexico policy.
That that's being cast aside with everything else.
You're gonna now Biden vowing to allow more refugees into the U.S. all in the middle of a pandemic where millions of Americans desperately need jobs, and with the stroke of a pen, he's eliminating thousands and thousands of high-paying career jobs in the energy sector, taking away jobs from the people that are actually involved in building the border wall.
They're now there, they've got their pink slips too.
And, you know, illegal crossings are way up.
Now, this also includes children under the age of 18, which is forcing the Biden administration.
They now have had to open what they're calling an emergency facility for children, or as the media used to call it under Trump, kids in cages.
This time, they're not even in a way, they look like a mobile home.
And it's some mobile homes.
I've been in mobile homes, so you know, can be actually very, very nice.
But these aren't mobile homes.
They look a little bit like them, but they're not.
They're shipping containers.
You know, big shipping containers.
If you go to the docks at New York or any of the ports of entry where ships bring in whatever their whatever supplies or products that they're going to be selling in the U.S., those big ones, they use the big crane, they lift them up, they put them out, unload them, etc.
Yeah, so they've taken those shipping containers with the tiniest of windows that they have bars on the windows, bars on them.
And the Washington Post just refers to them as a migrant facility for children.
Migrant facility for children.
What if Donald Trump put kids in cargo ships with bars on the windows?
You think that's how the mob and the media would react?
Now, when they were talking about Donald Trump and kids in cages, remember that all started.
Those cages were built by Biden and Obama.
That was 2014.
They were the ones that built the cages for kids.
And that's when Obama encountered a at that time, a massive wave of caravans, etc., unaccompanied minors.
And then to process and house these migrants, well, it was Biden Obama that acquired a warehouse, and they used chain link fence cages to divide children from adults.
Then in the following years, Donald Trump becomes president, he inherits the cages.
Anyway, they continued to use the facility that Biden Obama built for unaccompanied minors.
Well, that temporary, in other words, the exact same thing Biden and Obama did.
Parents were being, in many cases, prosecuted for crimes.
It was a temporary holding facility.
Children were housed, usually for less than a week.
Then all of a sudden, in 2018, even though they were built in 2014 and used by Biden and Obama in 2014, the mob in the media, well, they they unearthed photos and started circulating them showing children behind chain link fencing.
As it turns out, many of those photos were from the Obama, Biden era, not from the Trump era.
Built by Biden and Obama.
Truth doesn't matter.
The media mob went nuts.
Because if they can smear, slander, besmirch, attack, scratch that psychotic itch of theirs to hate Donald Trump every second, every minute, every hour of every day.
You know, Donald Trump is putting children in cages.
He's mean-spirited, hateful Republican.
The same playbook every two, four years, Republicans, racist, sexists, misogynists, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, they want dirty air and water, and to kill grandma, throw over a cliff.
Washington Post wrote that the chain link fencing was a symbol of mistreatment of Donald Trump.
Kamala Harris called it immoral and wrong and unnecessary.
Why didn't she say that about Biden and Obama?
Biden said it was one of the darkest moments in our history.
You built the damn thing.
Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez visited one of the facilities in the Trump years at the border.
She cried in front of a photographer while clinging to a chain link fence.
President Trump, then well, okay, it's all gone on, ended the child separation policy, closed the South Texas facility for renovations.
Now, thanks to the Biden administration, they build a new facility for children, cargo shipping containers with bars on the windows.
Imagine if Donald Trump built those.
Tiny shipping containers housing underage kids.
But the Washington Post praises the facilities, highlights all of it, and the great amenities.
You know, it has it's a colorful trailer at the entryway where flowers and butterflies and handmade posters hang on its walls.
Oh, that's how we're gonna describe the shipping container with bars on the windows for kids.
Oh, I'm sure they would treat Donald Trump the exact same way.
Peter Ducey had a chance to ask the White House press secretary, Jen Saki about this.
This is how it went down.
It's the same facility that was open for a month in the Trump administration, summer 2019.
That is when Joe Biden said, under Trump, there have been horrifying scenes at the border of kids being kept in cages.
And Kamala Harris said basically babies in cages is a human rights abuse being committed by the United States government.
So how is this any different than that?
We very much feel that way.
It's not under Trump, it's under Biden.
This is not kids being kept in cages.
This is kids.
This is a facility that was opened that's going to follow the same standards as other HHS facilities.
It is not a replication.
Certainly not, though that is never our intention of replicating the immigration policies of the past administration.
Now listen to the media mob again, spokespeople for all things liberal radical democratic socialists.
President Trump, as you know, is facing an onslaught of bipartisan outrage over his administration's new policy, which is resulting in hundreds, if not thousands of children being taken from their families if they cross the border illegally, as the country sees these startling images of children being taken from their parents and put in chain-linked pens of sorts.
Well, the images suggest those of concentration camps, families being cut apart.
I know children are being marched away to showers, being told they are just like the Nazis.
Increasingly, Donald Trump is turning this nation into Nazi Germany and turning these into concentration camps.
David joins us now.
David Tell us, what did you see?
Yo, we saw people in cages.
They looked like animal kennels.
They were cages, but they looked like kennels, if you will, that animals would be in.
What's happening is very American in that this is how the country was founded.
This is what happened 76 years ago to uh Japanese Americans in internment camps.
All of us are so concerned.
We see these heartbreaking images, uh, and it's it's so so awful.
The president uh has taken hostages, essentially, in both a sort of metaphorical and literal sense.
2600 children separated from their parents through an act of the president, his administration.
And now he's using that.
I leverage how to interrupt this only because I could play it for the rest of the show.
That's how bad the coverage was.
Now we got shipping cargo containers described by the same mob as colorful trailers at the entryway where flowers and butterflies and handmade posters hang on its walls.
Shipping cargo containers with bars on the window.
I wonder if Donald Trump did it.
How would that be described?
They're beautiful, the best shipping containers, money you can buy, bars on the windows, butterflies on the walls.
Can't wait for Gensaki to circle back on this phone with whatever spin that the media, of course, will pick up and echo as their own.
I mean, these open border policies, green light.
You know, that means it's just gonna get worse and worse and worse.
Now, what's gonna happen to wages?
If you happen to be one of those guys that had a good union job, what's gonna happen to you?
You're gonna get a new new great junior uh uh great new job, uh union job that pays well, that has great benefits, retirement, health care.
No, you're not.
Because now you're gonna be competing against all the people out of work for the pandemic and all the businesses that close will put people out of work because of draconian shutdown measures, mostly of Democrats.
And then you're gonna have to compete with illegal immigrants, inexpensive labor.
It's gonna drive wages down.
You'll barely be able to afford to put food on the table when all is said and done.
It's unbelievable.
You think the power grab is that bad there?
I keep warning you about HR one.
They you the Democratic Party, they call it the For the People Act.
It's not for the people, but it's for the Democratic Radical Socialist, HR 1.
Section 4, Clause 1.
Our Constitution says the times, places, manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.
But the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations except as to the places of choosing senators.
Well, you know what that means?
There's some really bad things in here.
They will now have, they'll create automatic voter registration all across the country.
They will expand early mail-in balloting.
They will get rid of uh they want to restore the rights of felons to vote by mail.
I mean, it's insanity.
Democrats will swing every election they possibly can with these new COVID-inspired voting methods, including, oh, nothing such as a voter ID, like you need to get into a Democratic National Convention or would need to get into the Capitol.
Fascinatingly enough, which is surrounded by a wall with razor wire on top.
I thought Democrats told us walls don't work.
Works well enough to use at the Capitol, which I'm not against, because we got to protect our until we come up with a better answer.
Because they they had the intelligence.
We're now learning, oh, it was anything but spontaneous.
That they had intelligence, the FBI had it days before.
And nobody listened to the police chief, who's begging for the National Guard, begging, couldn't I couldn't understand why they wouldn't listen to him.
Each state restricting what happens in legislatures following census years.
They're trying to make it so that they'll never lose another election.
That's what what do you think DC statehood is all about?
And Puerto Rico statehood is all about.
You know, they're gonna they're gonna force, quote, honest ad policies.
Okay, is the who's gonna be the honesty police?
Nancy Pelosi?
Ocasio Cortez?
Joe Biden.
You know, then of course they want to get rid of citizens united.
Well, that's called the free speech issue.
Still exist last time I checked.
Then they want to expand out all of these issues for registration.
That is basically the Republicans never win another election uh People's Act.
We can call it that.
That's what it is.
Democrats call it the People's Act for the People Act.
For the liberal socialist people.
Everyone else forget it.
Not gonna work for you.
Anyway, 800 941 Sean Tollfrey telephone number.
It's worse than I thought it would be.
I wish I could be a little bit more optimistic, but I'm just not.
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Says he's a simple man, not exactly how I would describe him.
I still get a kick out of it.
I think he really does believe it.
Mr. O'Reilly, sir, how are you?
Well, if I'm not simple, um, what am I?
am I?
Very complicated.
Just the opposite.
Let me play something about Joe Biden.
Now, I've been getting the crap kicked out of me, even though I I said it the entire campaign, Joe looks weak, he looks frail, and he's obviously cognitively struggling.
Everybody I talk to, even media mob people and Democrats, privately they tell me, yeah, every time he opens his mouth, they're like on pins and needles.
So he's in this interview yesterday.
I guess I don't admits that he he has a a card that he carries around him so he could remember, you know, certain little things.
And let me play it for you.
I promise you we are gonna together beat this.
And uh I think that uh I uh, you know, but the idea that um over five hundred niggas I have a card.
I carry a card on me every day with the total number of folks who have been affected by the uh as of uh yesterday, there are five hundred thousand and seventy-one people have died from this.
Five hundred thousand.
So Joe, everybody knows that.
It's not like something that's hard to remember, Bill.
And what else is on the card?
His name, his address, sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, uh contact information for Dr. Joe Biden.
I mean, uh Hunter's speed dial number, what?
I mean, that's a little scary to me.
Is it my off base here?
You can tell me.
No, no.
I mean, also on the card, and I don't think anybody knows this, is what time you're on the Fox News channel every night.
Yeah, that's true.
No, he but no, no, Bill 9 p.m. Eastern time, cannot be on the card, so he doesn't miss it.
Bill, he's got he's got warm milky at at seven.
Lights at 7 30.
I don't know lights out, he's in his jammies, but i I mean, maybe he's you know, on a phone.
But look people get mad whenever I talk about this, it cracks me up.
No, I'm not I'm not talking about Joe Biden because I don't know what his circumstances, but I my mother uh experienced cognitive decline, and and she uh was in Levitown in her uh final years, so I I know what that is.
And uh what happens if you don't have full blown Alzheimer's or or dementia, is that when older people get tired, all right, they become a little befuddled.
Now I'm generalizing here.
Some older people very sharp.
I mean, look at Mel Brooks, the guy like 93, and he's still.
Hey, look at Bernie Sanders for crying out loud.
I'll be fair, you know, he was communist, socialist, that I mean, he's got a ton of energy and he's cognitively, you know, you know, is the same as he was.
I just noticed a decline.
I'm not making a medical.
No, no, I think when he gets tired, when Biden gets tired, he gets uh befuddled.
And I mean you could say on that sound bite uh he lost his train of thought.
Uh he couldn't recall the five hundred thousand deaths from COVID.
Um and he was probably tired.
Now, is he unable to function?
No.
He he can function.
But here's here's my analysis of Biden.
You can really take this to the bank.
He is not at this point in charge of the presidency.
He's not in charge of the executive branch.
He isn't.
He's being told, look, Mr. President, this is what we have to do today.
Here's how we'd like to do it, and here's why we're doing it.
This is what he's being told by his staff.
And he's very compliant.
He was in the campaign.
I mean, this guy ran a campaign that no other presidential candidate, with the possible exception of William McKinley, the immoral William McKinley, who didn't move off his Ohio porch.
The guy was just wouldn't campaign.
But Biden just wouldn't go out, and that was by design.
So make it all about Trump, Trump's running against himself or for himself.
I'm gonna stay in a basement.
What other presidential candidate would have done that?
And the reason that that happened was because this staff knew on a daily grind basis that Joe Biden could not stand up to campaigning.
He couldn't.
They kept him away.
And that's what they're doing in the Presidency.
It's exactly what they're doing.
This is the danger, and this is what I tried to point out during the campaign that that you can't have I called it the candidate protection program.
And that that protection was provided by Democrats, the m what I call the media mob because they have a mob mentality, and big tech companies that wouldn't even run a real story as it relates to this laptop, which has now been confirmed.
And when he did come out, it was pretty obvious.
I feel I would say it this way that whatever spring in his step that he had ten years ago is gone.
And even in I would say I see a pretty dramatic again, not a medical diagnosis in any way.
He's lost a lot of energy.
And he looks so frail and weak and confused to me so often.
And I do agree with you that his staff is putting stuff in front of him, sign this, sign this, sign this.
And I I don't think that he is as engaged as I would like an American president engaged, even though he's you know adopting, especially as he's adopting every radical socialist policy that he can.
That's because he's doing what he's told to do.
And this is what they're telling him to do.
It's not that he um if they told him tomorrow, you know, it may not be really good to destroy the American oil industry and the fossil fuel industry, because this summer we're gonna have blackouts in all these states and they're gonna blame you, Mr. President, which is absolutely gonna happen.
Okay.
So maybe uh we reverse your executive order about the Keystone Pipeline.
Biden had signed that in five seconds.
What did you think do you think there's any connection to this?
I don't know what to think of this.
You have all these House Democrats calling on Biden to give up full control of nuclear weapons.
Now, the commander in chief, it's very clear, is the president of the United States.
It's a that that power is given to one person.
Why you got three dozen House Democrats calling on Biden to relinquish that sole authority if he wanted to ever, God forbid, I mean that sincerely, launch a nuclear weapon.
Well, I mean, I don't know what the motivation for that is.
Um why they want to take that power away from the executive branch.
Again, Joe Biden's not gonna launch anything unless Barack Obama tells him to.
And you know, people will go, oh, Riley, you know, I I don't have any problem with Barack Obama.
I covered him fairly.
He did some good things, he did some bad things.
But if you don't think Barack Obama's running a show, you're crazy.
I mean, Susan Rice is his best friend.
And that's Biden's top domestic advisor.
You don't think that there's stuff going on every single day from Barack Obama to Joe Biden?
Come on.
What what scares me is if you look at his chief of staff, this guy Ron Klain, he's got an agenda.
There was a report of all all the people that he's talking to.
He's talking to Bernie Sanders and and AOC and the squad and the and the hard radical left.
Look, there's never been a political party that ran on a more radical agenda than this current Democratic Party, and you're you even see now with all these executive orders, the implementation of everything that we predicted they would do.
But that's actually good for many of the listeners of your program today, because the overreach into these radical left precincts is gonna come back in two years.
It's gonna be pretty apparent to everybody that the Biden administration is afraid of the radical left.
That's gonna be pretty apparent because we're already paying a tax that every single working American is paying it's fifty cents a gallon more right now on Long Island where I am and you are than it was when Biden was inaugurated for a gallon of gasoline.
You know what the most you know you know what offends me the most of all of this, and there's a lot.
I mean, now they're trying they're forcing South Korea to give up bill seven billion dollars so they can give even more money to the mullahs in Iran.
That infuriates me.
But it really infuriates me the the casual way that they have sent pink slips to to people that work in the energy sector, Keystone XL Pipeline, they'll cancel the Dakota pipeline, cancel all exploration in Anwar.
These are high paying, highly skilled career jobs, and they they nonchalantly just go on and say uh well, you'll get another union job.
Yeah.
While they're also having uh, you know, legalizing eleven plus million people competing for any job that's available.
Well, Governor Christy uh Gnome of South Dakota wrote a piece today saying exactly the same thing you just said.
And uh the governor is uh a legitimate contender for the Republican uh nomination for president four years from now, she'll run, I think.
Um and she basically said, Look, my state is getting destroyed by this theoretical, there was no reason for him to do that.
Well, what was the reason of him uh suspending the XL pipeline?
For what reason?
That oil is gonna be exported to countries that have to have it.
Like who's gonna sell it to them now?
Maybe Iran, maybe Russia.
What do you think?
They're not gonna buy the oil in Nigeria.
They have their own oil, but they're not gonna buy it in Thailand.
Hey, Bill, this these policies are making you know, hostile regimes like Russia and the mullahs in Iran and countries in the Middle East that hate us and China.
They're mi these policies are making these countries rich again.
Every American, you rightly point out, we're uh paying a lot more already at the pump.
We're gonna pay a lot more to heat and cool our homes.
Yep.
Every American's gonna be impacted greatly by all of this and and this these jobs.
Uh we tried this bill.
It's called Sylndra and other green energies, and they don't work.
I if they make them work one day, and we can get inexpensive cheap energy that is reliable, count me in.
But as of today, the lifeblood of the world's economy, oil, gas, coal, and nuclear, but we can't even touch that.
But you can do the simultaneous development of uh alternative fuels and not you know have people freezing to death in Texas.
Um and and this is you know, but they're afraid, they're afraid of the Green New Deal people day being the Biden administration.
They don't want to have to fight that war.
They want to just capitulate to them.
Now, if you had a president who was you say I'm a simple man, who was simple common sense, he would say, you know, I don't think I'm gonna wipe out 10,000 jobs in the fossil fuel industry in the first two months, and I don't think I'm gonna make Americans pay a buck more for a gallon of gas.
Um I'm gonna ease in.
I'm gonna I'm gonna get there in a methodical, disciplined way.
Are we seeing that?
But again, this overreach is going to allow the Republican Party, I think that still exists, an opportunity two years from now.
Because even the dimmest American is gonna know I don't have as much money as I used to have because I'm paying so much for energy, and I can't really find a job because the job market's gonna shrink.
The well, the there's one other factor here, and that's HR one.
And I know you're familiar with it.
You know, this this is this is now the Democrats, for example, uh including uh components that would, for example, create automatic voter registration.
They don't want any voter ID at all whatsoever.
Um they don't they want more mail-in balloting, which even the New York Times acknowledged lends itself to corruption and so many others.
That's what they want.
And they want to silence voices like ours.
That they've always wanted to do.
But now you've got literal the the FEC has to come out and say uh canceling voices you don't like, that's not the United States of America, but they are pursuing it, a couple of congressmen.
And more than that, I mean the Corporations, that's where they're they're never gonna get legislation to take conservative voices off the media air.
That'll never happen.
But they can intimidate corporations.
And you know, in uh Silicon Valley, they don't have to be intimidated because they're all in that left wing precinct, and they're more than happy to silence people they disagree with.
They're gonna be on our rocking chairs one day, and we're gonna be in cognitive decline one day.
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Uh you brought you brought your A game.
Good job.
Thank you.
Thank for your and I really appreciate you having me on, Sean.
Thank you.
Every time we appreciate it.
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So everything we've been telling you about immigration is true.
And a lot of this now is is coming to the consciousness of the American people.
Now, remember when, for example, Democrats, they were all over the media mob all over Donald Trump because he he put children in cages.
Well, it was actually the videos they often use were videos that were taken when Joe was vice president and Obama was actually present uh president.
And you know, the Trump's kids in cages.
Well, uh, excuse me, that was never accurate.
That was never true.
We have video going back to 2014 when Biden Obama encountered a massive wave of migrant caravans with a lot of unaccompanied minors, and yep, they put them in those warehouses.
They used the chain link fence, the cages to divide children from adults.
Now it did continue in the Trump years in the beginning.
By the way, Donald Trump stopped that.
It was a temporary holding facility where kids were housed for less than a week, and the media became, you know, all against uh Donald Trump as if he had created the policy.
That wasn't true.
Well, now we have the chain link fencing.
Well, now we've they've they've taken it to another level.
We and even it got the attention of Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez, and that is that they've got these.
I don't I don't even know if you want to call them a mobile home, but they've got bars on the windows.
Let's put it that way.
And yeah, the child separation policy is back, and we have ICE leaders now saying you better buckle up because there's gonna be mass migration into this country, and then of course, orders that they can't do their job and and fulfill the law of the land.
You know, the Washington Post.
I mean, you can't make this up.
They're actually praising the facilities with bars on the windows where you could barely see out to begin with, uh, calling them color for colorful trailers at the entryway, where flowers and butterflies and handmade posters all hang on the walls.
I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
Um now it's interesting about this.
This came up yesterday with White House Press Secretary Jensaki, and she was asked about this by Peter Ducey, and she defended the reopening of these facilities for unaccompanied migrant children.
The very thing liberals, the mob, the media complained about in 2018.
It's the same facility that was open for a month in the Trump administration, summer 2019.
That is when Joe Biden said under Trump, there have been horrifying scenes at the border of kids being kept in cages.
And Kamala Harris said uh basically babies and cages is a human rights abuse being committed by the United States government.
So how is this any different than that?
We very much feel that way.
It's not under Trump, it's under Biden.
This is not kids being kept in cages.
This is this is kids.
This is a facility that was opened that's going to follow the same standards as other HHS facilities.
It is not a replication, certainly not.
Though that's that is never our intention of replicating the immigration policies of the past administration.
They built cages.
You know, they used to say I built the cages, and then they had a picture in a certain newspaper, and it was a picture of these horrible cages, and they said, Look at these cages.
President Trump built them.
And then it was determined they were built in 2014.
That was him.
They did it.
We changed the cages.
They who built the cages, Joe.
Let's talk about the city.
Who built the cages?
Let's talk about Joe and Obama built the cages.
I'll answer the question for Joe.
And it's not even we're not even talking about mobile homes here.
You know those shipping containers that you see at at docks and ports of entry when when big ships drop their deliveries.
That's what they are.
They're shipping containers.
And the windows are tiny, and the windows, by the way, have bars on them.
That's what they're now doing.
Even Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez was at least fairly consistent until she backed away, blasting the Biden administration.
I mean, it's just amazing.
If Joe does it, it's wonderful.
If Obama does it, it's wonderful.
If Trump does it, it's evil.
It's horrible.
It's so disgustingly nauseatingly sick how twisted and backwards and and the hypocrisy and double standards and the mob and the media.
They have no shame, the media mob.
No shame at all.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
As we say hi to Brian, North Carolina.
What's up, Brian?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean.
Um, thanks for taking my call.
Thank you for calling.
Hey, um, just wanted to basically kind of talk about the the spinelessness of the Republican Party and and even conservatives.
Um, you know, it seems like we never stand up for ourselves.
Like we're more concerned about what is the liberal media going to say about us than we are about what are my constituents going to say about me.
So what what I mean is, you know, you anyone of our Republican representatives can get attacked by the media.
They can get attacked by um another senator, a liberal senator, or even a rhino senator.
And and our guys, I'll call them our guys.
Their first instinct is to go to the either apologize or oh, you know, you're making a big deal out of nothing.
They don't defend themselves.
They try to make sure that they look good when they get put on liberal media shows.
So they're more worried about what is the what is the liberal side think about me than they are worried about what is my side think about me.
So it's like we have absolutely no backbone to stand up and say, hey, you know what?
That's the way it is.
None of them have learned from Trump.
Fight back.
Give the truth.
If they punch you, punch them back harder.
Okay.
Well, that way, be careful now.
Now you're gonna sound like Eric Holder.
When when they're, you know, they're down, kick them.
No, look, you're talking about you're not talking about you punch back hard, meaning you fight politically.
You're not talking about a physical altercation.
I got it.
I understand.
Look, let me let me tell you how I've been going over how simple conservatism is.
What what the things that I want, if it's a Republican Party or conservatives, I want them to fight for because it's good for the country.
Peace through strength is Good for the country.
Free and fair trade is good for American workers.
Getting rid of burdensome regulation allows economic activity and manufacturing jobs at home.
Lower taxes benefits everybody because it stimulates economic growth and job creation.
Secure borders.
So we ha are the masters of our own destiny.
Okay.
We we can't take in the world's population.
And we're allowed to have standards or merit-based immigration policies.
We're allowed to protect our borders and our sovereignty and the laws of this land.
Energy independence for national security reasons, for economic reasons.
It benefits everybody.
I want people that believe in the Constitution on our bench.
I believe in the First and Second Amendment of our Constitution and every other one.
And my point to you is that's it.
It's not it's not more complicated than that.
That pretty much sums up what conservatives and what the Republican Party ought to stand for and the policies they ought to be fighting for.
Why did why did they try to make themselves look good as you say and suck up to a media that hates them?
I don't know.
But that's who they are.
We we now have, and I was talking a lot about this in the lead up to this past election.
We have powerful institutional forces that are aligned to stop any conservative from ever implementing the policies that will be successful so they can take what is by far the most radical,
extreme socialist agenda and shove it down our throats and make promises that will never be fulfilled, that will result in more poverty, and it will will result in our freedoms slowly being chipped away until they're you know, there's there we don't have the freedom we once had.
That's what matters to me.
That's why elections matter.
That those policies implemented and fought by Trump, they were successful.
Why can't they just answer that way?
I don't know.
I'm not there's not brain surgery.
Brian, I'll give you the last word.
Well, I I was just gonna say, I mean, to take an example.
I mean, what you just said about, you know, the border and an illegal immigration.
You know, we have this wave coming.
And then what happens?
You you go on TV and you see these Republicans getting hit with questions, oh, don't you care about the children?
Oh, don't you care about these illegals who've come over and and who've been here for five years and they've they've been good citizens and blah, blah, blah.
They should say, instead of saying, Well, you know, I agree with you, and yes, they've been good people.
What they should say is, um, excuse me, we have laws.
We already have an immigration system.
There are legal ways of coming here.
We need to enforce that.
And stop right there.
Stop worrying about, oh, well, the liberal side is going to look at me as oh, I don't care about children.
I don't care about families.
I don't care about blah, blah, blah, the Ecuadorians.
I don't care about Paraguayans.
I don't know, that's not what they're saying.
And they need to stop worrying about that.
They need to understand too that when they do kind of kowtow to the to the liberal side and say, well, no, of course I worry about those three-year-old children who are coming and getting put in cages.
No, they should say that is not what we're discussing.
What we are discussing is the American law, the legal system, and the legal system says that you come here legally.
We have a process.
You apply for citizenship, you go through that process just like everybody else who came here.
You know, forget the emotional side.
That's what they they allow themselves to get trapped into the emotional side of it.
And because all they're worried about is what is the other side going to think about me.
And the funny thing is, they need to understand just like Trump did.
He's not going to win people on the other side.
The people on the other side are on the other side for a reason because they think that way.
You're not going to change their minds.
You're you're not.
But you are going to lose people on our side if you keep saying, okay, well, I'll give up this, I'll give up this.
It's kind of like saying, hey, I'm going to give up my principles because you don't want me to do something.
So I'll meet you halfway.
Listen, this is a philosophical divide.
There is a great divide.
There's there is, and I'm going to let you go because we have a lot of people standing by, and I appreciate a thoughtful call.
But I will tell you, there is the left wants no part of conservatism.
The left doesn't understand conservatism.
They've never wanted to understand it.
And at the end of the day, uh statism, socialism always becomes authoritarianism.
You know, who who's trying to cancel everybody?
It's not conservatives, it's the left in America.
We live in a in a world of nothing but pure propaganda, lies, conspiracy theories, agenda-driven opinion that is cloaked as news.
It's not news, it's lies and propaganda and conspiracy theories.
And then we get we're the ones that get attacked.
We're the people that they want off the air forever.
And you know, never to be seen or heard from again.
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Let's get back to our busy phones.
Long call, but I thought worthwhile with Brian.
Let's say hi to Natalie who's in Utah.
Natalie, hi, how are you?
Hi, I'm good.
How are you, Sean?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Thanks for taking my call.
First of all, can I just real quick say how much I I just want to put a shout out to Rush and my appreciation for him?
And I didn't know it until he died.
I have listened to him ever since I was a little girl with my mom.
And when Catherine came on and announced it and I was listening, I just cried because it hit me.
What a big loss we've experienced.
Anyway, that's all I want to say.
You know, going forward, he's I keep saying nobody can replace him.
Nobody.
Yeah.
And I've been saying to everybody that it's time for all of us to up our game.
Well, what I wanted to say today was just I talked about my frustration with how things just seem to never change, especially on the left, but both sides.
I mean, they've you can trace everything back all the way to Karl Marx, back and then to the feminine mystique, Solinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, all the way to Obama, who's now, I feel like pulling the strings of Biden and his administration.
I mean, it's all they've renamed it progressive movement, social justice, but it's all just going back to communism and Marxism.
And Lenin himself said the goal of socialism is Marxism, is to achieve communism.
And so I don't understand how people aren't seeing this.
Their goal is to divide us as a nation, to destroy morality, Christianity, everything the founding fathers built, everything you'd list every day on your show.
They're all against it.
They just want to destroy it, and they're coming for our first and second amendment rights, and they want to take away an indoctrinator kid.
I don't know how people can't see what's going on, and I'm I'm glad that maybe they're doing they're going so far with the overreach that people are waking up, but I'm worried that it's going to be too late by then.
By the time they're listening to the damage is going to be real.
The damage, look at the COVID bill that we've been exposing and all the waste fraud and abuse and corruption involved in that.
I mean, the damage will be real.
Undoing the damage, I uh it bec at some point we get to a point of no return, Natalie.
That's what scares me.
Yeah, people will wake up and say, Oh, I I guess socialism doesn't work as promised.
I guess these promises, I mean, did people ever really wake up and s and understand completely that millions lost their doctors and plans and everybody's paying 200% plus more?
Did they ever just acknowledge that failure that they can they can't even educate our kids?
Democratic run states and cities, they can't maintain law and order.
Why wouldn't we trust them with anything else?
Anyway, 800 941 Sean.
Uh when we come back on the other side, Jim Gray's known Tiger Woods since he's seven next.
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As we uh heard yesterday, uh, and mentioned at the top of the program yesterday, Tiger Woods turns out that he literally shattered his Tib and his fib and ankle, I mean, pretty significant injuries, and it needed rods and screws, and and and even the doctors and others said it was a miracle that he survived this crash.
Um, you know, our friend Jim Grace, I mean 12-time Emmy Award winner.
That tells you everything you need to know about our friend Jim Gray.
He's written this great book.
I've read it cover to cover, talking to goats, the greatest of all time, likes of Brady, the likes of Muhammad Ali, uh Mike Tyson, he's friends with your friends with Tigers.
You first met him when he was seven, you told me last night.
I know you've told me in the past, and you write about it in the book.
That's correct, Sean.
Hey, thanks for having me on uh known Tiger virtually uh, you know, since he was just a young a youngster coming up on 40 years, uh he'll be 46, so 39 years, and um just so thankful today, really that uh he has survived this crash, and and while his injuries are uh are significant,
they're not life-threatening, and while the surgeries uh may imperil uh us seeing him play golf uh anytime soon, if if again, we just don't know, but uh at least he's gonna be able to hug his children and and and and be able to be alive and and and continue to contribute to in in other ways.
And uh from where we were yesterday at this time, Sean, to where we are today, uh things have gotten a whole lot better.
Oh, thank God, and I only wish him and his family the best.
You know, there is this this dark side of the human experience that people seem to revel almost in other people's pain.
When the story broke about the the accident the first time and and the DUI the first time, and all these stories start coming out about Tiger.
And I I just uh I I I stood back, I watched, I kind of stay out of people's lives, that part of or portion of people's lives.
But and I don't think people really understand this.
If you're the greatest at anything, really the greatest, there's enormous pressures that I would argue, and I'm this is not excuse making.
We're all responsible for our behavior, our choices in life, and you can't blame somebody else when you make raw bad choices, right?
But at the on the other end of this, fame, I don't think is cracked up to what people think it is.
Uh, number one, being the the best at anything, a lot of pressure that that a lot of people might not be able to relate to or understand.
Now they're well compensated for the for the great talents that they show us, either on the football field, baseball field, boxing ring, octagon, or golf course.
But there's there's is a real underbelly of difficulties associated with all of that, all of those gifts.
Does that make sense?
You're absolutely right, and the pressure is external and internal.
The external pressure is now the social media age that we live in, where every single movement is documented.
You're basically on camera for your entire life.
Or you are subject to having things said about you and people relating instances that were never public before.
So, you know, every single thing that you do is being viewed through a microscope, and then it's being transmitted, amplified, and every pimple becomes a mountain.
Then there's the internal pressure, Sean.
Uh Tiger Woods has been tormented for years by perfection because he's touched it, but he can't grab it.
So he's had the perfect ground.
He's had the hole in one, he's had the perfect tournament.
He's won 15 majors, but he wants to do it again and again and again.
So part of that torment of wanting to be perfect creates a joyless experience.
So for the 14 of the 15 uh major championships, it didn't look like he was having any fun.
Finally, to come back after not having won since 2008, all the way till 2019, a major, he finally let everybody in.
So I write in the book, talking to goats, how a legend became a human, okay?
How a legend came back and let everybody finally share in his joy, share in that experience.
And if you saw the fans, the patrons at Augusta National, when he won that tournament, all those guys hit the ball in the uh in the water on twelve and put it up there on the green, and they all felt the pressure, and he just knew how to do it and came up there and celebrated and then hugged his son Charlie, uh, just like Earl had hugged him, and and then he walked down to the clubhouse, and everybody was lined up, and he was raising his fists and high fiving, and he hugged his competitors.
Used to be he resisted his competitors because they were competitors.
Now he brought them all in.
So everybody shared in that.
So there had been a uh a a change in the way the tiger head approached things, having gone from a peak to the to the ultimate valley, uh, and then back up to the top.
So, you know, when we see this happen to him yesterday, and you talk about pressure, yeah, there's been a lot of internal and external pressure, and it's hard to live.
Julius Irving said this to me, the great Dr. J. said this to you 35 years ago, Sean.
He said, Do you know anybody who is truly successful or at the very top of their profession that doesn't have one major quirk or flaw in their personality?
Wow.
That's such a profound thing to say.
I the I say it a little differently.
I I look at the the best in these industries, and and look, I'm gonna be honest, you're the best at what you do also, um, and you've had a phenomenal career.
But I see a lot of the most talented people, their blessing is their curse.
And you might say, Well, come on, you got you got I don't know, planes, trains, automobiles, a big house, blah, blah, blah.
But there's another side of it.
You know, I've also learned in my life too that I don't care who you are, where you come from, you don't go through this life.
And this this transcends socioeconomics in every way without struggle.
Life, I believe we're all created by God.
I believe in natural rights.
I believe that that these gifts that we all have are God given.
A good education lets us flourish and and let that lets that natural talent come out.
And then beyond that, it it's it's what we choose to do, the choices we make thereafter.
And and a lot of people make a lot of bad choices in the course of their life.
Well, when you talk about the blessing and the curse, you know, a lot of people say, but why couldn't he get that aspect of his life right?
Or why did he venture off into that?
Or why is she doing this?
But guess what?
If you alter the makeup of the brilliance and the genius, and you try and tone down something or change something elsewhere, then you're not gonna have the same result in the area which you love, in the area which they have excelled, in the area where they are now excellent.
Because if you do that, then you've altered the makeup of what they are that are allowing them to achieve that excellence.
So, you know, everybody doesn't always have the entire package.
Who does?
Who with who out there uh isn't is perfect?
Well, none of us are.
We all have quirks, we all have flaws, we all have warts, we all make mistakes, and we try and become better tomorrow than we were yesterday.
Okay.
So one of the things on here.
And in every single case and every every person that you profiled in your great book, talking to goats, greatest of all times, all these incredible experiences you've had talking to the greatest athletes ever in their in top of their profession.
It's interesting this other side of them.
I mean, when you tell the story about Mike Tyson, and Mike Tyson, you know, you write him when he's in jail, and he sends you back this letter that he allowed you then later to reveal you to know if it was a private letter or whether or not you could disclose it, and he let you disclose it, it's pretty profound.
Well, when he was convicted of rape and and he went for his sentence, he wrote me a five-page letter.
It arrived at my house inexplicably.
It was opened by the Indiana youth penitentiary because all of the mail that is sent out, they check to make sure that it while it's sent out that it's okay to be received.
So I got the letter, obviously opened, and I got to the second page, handwritten letter.
And that second page said, I will never admit to this rape.
If I was to admit to it, they will let me go tomorrow, but I will never admit to something I didn't do.
Next paragraph he said.
However, Mr. Gray, that's what he always called me.
There are four or five other things that I've done throughout the course of my life that are worse than what I'm accused of, therefore I feel I'm at the right place at this time.
So I asked him about that when he allowed me to do the first interview with him when he came out of jail.
I said, Is this a private letter or a public letter?
So you can ask me anything you want.
So I asked him that question.
What was worse?
Well, he looked at me, looked over at his lawyer, and then he said right into the camera, he said, It's probably best not to answer this on national television because I don't know the statue of limitations.
However, what I wrote you is true.
What are the common themes you see in all of the goats, all of the greatest of all time?
They all have a myopic view.
They all have hard work and dedication, but they all are determined to be the best.
They all go about it in different ways, but they will not ever stop until they achieve what it is that they want to attain.
All of them go forwards and backwards.
As many Super Bowls as Tom Brady has won, he's also lost Super Bowls and not gotten to the Super Bowl.
Well, yeah, he's he's he's he's been a starting quarterback eighteen years, played in ten super bowls, won seven of them, lost three.
Those other eight years he didn't get there.
So, you know, it it it isn't always a victory that you learn from.
You can learn a lot from your defeats.
Okay.
Look at Michael Phelps, for example.
Michael Phelps, Sean, spent his entire adult life staring at a black line underwater to somehow try and figure out how to have a fingernail touch before some guy someplace else in the world does.
Crazy.
It's insane.
The amount of work that goes in to to be at the highest level or even a high level at any sport, it is a a you by the way, who wants to jump in a cold pool every morning?
Could gri and spend hours going back and forth and back and forth.
I'd I f I could never do it, but you know, when he's winning all his gold medals, I'm like, Yeah, this is awesome.
I love winning, you know.
And yeah, it's uh he talked about mental health issues, uh, his HBO documentary, and he's very involved with that now.
And and you know you have to have tremendous compassion and understanding because he's the most decorated Olympian in the history of the games, the most gold medals and the most medals.
Crazy.
But it's a price to be paid for being great.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back more on the other side with our friend Jim Gray, uh twelve-time Emmy Award winner.
Amazing.
His best selling book, Talking to Goats.
Uh all the greatest athletes in their day and their time and people we all admire and respect.
Quick break, right back, more with Jim on the other side.
And as we continue, broadcaster Jim Gray, his best selling book, by the way, talking to goats, greatest of all time.
And he knew Tiger Woods since he was seven.
Let me ask you, go back to Tiger for one more minute.
I watched that that two-part series episodes on Tiger that everyone talked about.
I watched it all.
I have my own thoughts on on how I interpreted some of that, but I don't want to taint your opinion.
I'm d I want to hear your raw, unadulterated, straightforward opinion on what you thought of the series and what did you learn about Tiger that maybe you didn't know.
I didn't like it.
I didn't like it either.
Bothered me too.
It bothered me tremendously, and I didn't like that happening on national television.
I mean, you know, it it it it was just so uncomfortable to see, particularly the second part where they're following Tiger in a parking lot to see what he's doing, you know, uh having uh an affair with somebody, you know, that should be between him and his wife and the other woman who he's who he's having the affair with.
So it was just extremely uncomfortable.
Uh I'm not sure that it had anything to do with his golf prowess or his greatness.
Um it was it was it was voyeurism and it was it was very uncomfortable to me.
Some of the things in the first episode were interesting uh about his father and Earl uh a lot.
We're gonna be able to do that.
What did you think of that part?
That part intrigued me a lot.
Some of it was quite interesting.
Um I I again I don't think, You know, him having a camper outside at the driving range uh where he's doing whatever he may be doing is you know necessarily germane or have you know it it it's just uncomfortable.
I just I just didn't I I didn't like it.
I it's so funny because I walked I I I watched it um because I really want I was fascinated by it, and I I was sorry I watched it.
That's actually a good thing.
I actually feel the same exact way.
I didn't want I wish I didn't see what I saw.
I was sorry.
And that includes the young years, and that includes the older years.
Although if you see the young years, you begin to maybe have a little more nuance in your brain about things that transpired when he got older.
And I also think it's very, very hard.
I mean, we're all helicopter parents today.
It's not like when we were kids, you know, I come home.
My parents had no idea where I was ever.
And these are trouble as a kid.
When you got in trouble as a kid, how were you punished?
What happened?
Oh, my father did I got the belt, he beat the crap out of me.
And I and I'll say, and I'll let me add this.
I deserved it every time.
Every single time.
It's not like it's it's not like he had a bad temper.
And he'd always say the same thing afterwards.
He'd feel terrible and be like, I don't want to ever do this.
Why don't you just listen?
The next day my mother would say, Don't leave this house, and I'd turn around and say, You can't stop me.
And I leave.
Wait till your father gets home.
You know.
I mean, I was incorrigible.
You know what they say in the South about you.
You lived in Georgia.
You're a tough dog to keep underneath the porch.
Well, uh I know you'll talk to Tiger in the coming days, but just say that, you know, there's many of us praying for him, praying for his family, his kids, and everybody in his life, and we only wish him the best.
And and uh hope we have a speedy recovery in his case.
We sure do.
He's given us so much, and uh now we can give him our prayers, our thoughts, and and just hope for a full and speedy recovery.
Jim Gray, you're a good man.
By the way, talking to GOATs, if you haven't gotten it, it's such a good read.
You're gonna learn so much.
I loved it.
I couldn't put it down.
All right, 25 to the top of the hour, 800 nine-four one Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
So Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski.
Um, well, I mean, she bragged about the fact she didn't vote for Donald Trump in November.
She, of course, went against the president in impeachment.
Uh Donald Trump, through his energy policies, created energy independence in this country with high-paying career jobs that go along with them uh for the first time in 75 years.
Now, energy is crucial to Alaska.
It's critical to Alaska.
And Lisa Murkowski is now, you know, remember, she bragged she didn't vote for Trump.
Okay.
Now she's sounding the alarm about Biden's oil restrictions and and pressing his interior secretary nominee, uh, Deb Holland is her name, or Halen is her name, on an executive order she says targets her state.
Quote, when we see these executive orders coming out of the White House, well, that not only impacts a resource-based state like Alaska, but actually calls us out by name.
She said during this confirmation hearing, you know, we're we're one of only two states in the nation that were specifically targeted by Biden's day one executive order.
It's not just your state, it's let's see, it's a lot of states and a lot of workers and a lot of people in the energy sector.
Um, she didn't seem to be referring to Biden's executive order directing the Interior Department to place a moratorium on oil and gas leasing activities and exploration in the in Nanwar, the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
She goes on to say that she didn't think that Biden was out to get Alaskans, but she does think there's a definite threat to the resource industry that our state is blessed to be able to host.
And then ask Point Bliss.
So if you're confirmed to this very significant position, what will be your approach going forward with regards to oil, gas, mineral resource development within a state like Alaska?
Well, she got the response and said she will like to continue working with Murkowski and help Alaskans get the opportunities, quote, they need.
I know that President Biden doesn't want to cripple any state.
Well, he's he's crippled how many people have been fired from high-paying career jobs in the energy sector.
Lisa Murkowski, not that she's listening to this show.
Um, your lack of a vote for Donald Trump resulted in what will be a lot of economic pain for your state.
And okay, it's a half of vote for Biden, at least if you didn't just outright vote for Biden, which I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
Um you have yourself to blame.
Let's get to our phones.
Alex is in North Carolina.
Alex, glad you called.
How are you, sir?
What's going on?
Uh doing fine.
I'm a retired sergeant major with 33 years in the military.
I just recently retired.
We lose 23 veterans a day to suicide, and it's just a national treasure that we're losing.
That's so sad.
The problem I have right now, Mr. Hannity is a lot of them is it's jobs.
They can't get jobs.
And now it's it's even worse because now, because of the president and what he's saying right now, it seems as if they're a national security risk.
And I wish they would talk a lot better about our national treasures and what they did.
Well, I'm gonna tell you something.
You know, you you you're you're bringing up a lot of good points here.
And first of all, God bless every man, woman, anybody that serves in our military, all the people that have served in our military, the the cost that they have paid for our liberties and freedoms is so high.
And that's why it's so frustrating to see we're gonna now see a dramatic you'll you'll witness dramatic cuts on the military spending side of the budget.
You already see that Biden is positioning now to get another seven what billion dollars uh out of South Korea to give the Iranian mullahs we're back to appeasement of the mullahs and Iran again.
Yes, I mean, the the the person that defeated the caliphate, that was Trump.
The guy that took out Solomani, that was Trump.
Baghdadian associates, that was Trump too.
And the Al Qaeda leader in Yemen.
Now, what's the what was the big policy shift?
One that there were a couple of them.
Donald Trump built up our military, devoted the resources necessary to have the best equipment available for our men and women in uniform.
The second thing he said is, no, we have new technologies, and we're gonna use a whole new Trump doctrine in in as much as we're not sending kids door to door in Baghdad anymore because there's no need to, because the technology's so sophisticated and advanced, we can press buttons in Tampa, Florida.
And in Tampa, Florida, we can hit the head of a pin with the kind of accuracy we need to take out the enemy.
And that's that's how he was able to do it.
They took off the rules of engagement handcuffs that Biden Obama put on.
And and these guys did their job.
These young soldiers, if I may, uh Mr. Henry, they they don't make much money.
They they rose the right hand and took a a pledge and hold to that pledge more so than most people in Congress.
Most of them have secret top secret clearances.
They get out of the military, they can't find jobs.
Now they're looked at uh even despairingly.
They're some of them are not even putting they've served in the military on their their resumes.
And it's it's sad.
We pass them on the streets, they they're used as photo ops, you pat them on the back and then they move on.
Our soldiers need to be.
I haven't heard that part of this because if there's anybody that's discriminating against any any vet or any military member in any way, shape, or form, I think the overwhelming vast majority of Americans would stand up and say, We're not gonna tolerate that.
That is true.
Because they sacrifice a lot.
Anyway, Alex, uh good reminder, my friend.
Thank you.
Florida Amanda, next, Sean Hannity Show.
How are you, Amanda?
Hi, Sean, thank you so much.
I'm calling in to let you know.
Uh I live in Orange County, Florida, and since the start of the pandemic, we've had a mask mandate.
And I work with children with developmental disabilities, mental health Diagnosis and in that they also have different medical diagnosis.
And there are as a whole population of children and young adults and any people that literally cannot wear the surgical style face masks.
And unfortunately, they're being discriminated against right now because they can't go anywhere.
They can't go enjoy their memories.
They can't go make memories.
They can't do anything.
And I definitely respect the right of private business.
But it's a mere it's amazing to me that, you know, under ADA or anything like that, that there is no accommodations for these individuals when in fact the CDC recommends that persons with disabilities nonverbal or don't have the motor ability to remove a mask, not wear a face mask.
You know, it's funny you're saying this, and it's a little bit different, but I I was at Walmart two weekends ago.
And I was there to pick up specific items that I was given a list to pick up stuff.
And I said, okay, I'll go, no problem.
Uh, for somebody that I know and and and a neighbor that needed some help.
Anyway, so I go to the Walmart, the super Walmart, and I go there and the place number first of all, it's packed to the I mean, it is packed.
Uh when I finally get to the checkout line, it's a 20-minute wait.
So I watch ahead of me, and and you have kids here, there, everywhere, driving their parents nuts, and it brought back memories.
I'm like, okay, I'm glad I'm out of that stage of my life.
And there was this one woman right in front of me the whole time, and this kid reminded me of me, you know, kind of a little hyper and not very focused.
And the poor mom was trying the whole time to get this kid to wear the mask.
And um and I'm watching it, and I could tell that she felt a pressure to get the mask on the kid because somebody's gonna say something.
So finally I just kind of gently said, He's such a great kid, what a beautiful child you have.
And I said, Um, he's not gonna wear the mask, don't worry about it.
Nobody's gonna say anything.
And if they do, I'll stick up for you.
And I could tell, like, oh, because she was trying so hard to keep the mask on, and it but it was it was an impossible task.
You this kid was not gonna keep his mask on, it wasn't gonna happen.
It wasn't.
And but you're right.
I mean, it's restrict there's gotta be common sense behind every quote law.
And we don't use common sense, you can't apply common sense.
And and that's you know, I th that that does get frustrating at times, and I bet it's been very difficult for the kid you're describing.
I'm sad to hear that.
It has been, and for you know, the some children that are verbal, you know, it's not that these families don't want to comply and not be safe, they just want another option.
They want to be able to go to see Christmas lights um because they you know because they want to enjoy memories as a family, they're trying to make do with what we can right now with COVID in a safe manner, but because they're you know, a child cannot wear loop around their ears, you know, covering nose and mouth, and there's no other option, you know, these families and these children are missing out.
And I hear Biden say we're gonna be in masks till 2022, and then I hear Fou Dr. Fauci and Biden say, Well, now we need to double mask, and these children are not only I mean, they're going to be able to do it.
It ain't gonna work.
I'm just listening.
What was the point of the vaccine?
This is why I'm I've had it with Fauci.
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I really tried, but everything with him now is political, and he's been wrong pretty much on everything.
The guy they had a lot more right than Dr. Fauci was a guy named Donald Trump who he enjoys beating up.
But you know, you you're calling our attention to something important, Amanda.
I wish you the best.
God bless you.
I mean, you you I'm sure you have a heart of gold than the patience of Job.
It's very hard to be a teacher and uh and do what you're doing, though.
So thank you for what you do every day.
Love it on those kids.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
Now, Linda has five-year-old Liam, and I'll tell you why I love Liam.
Liam is all boy.
Liam is, I mean, he throws snowballs at mom.
He mom says, No, no, no, no, no, Liam, no, don't stand on top of the couch and jump.
No, I uh oh, I told you not to jump.
Is my describing this this kid the right way?
Yeah, I think so.
You know what?
And he reminds me of me as a kid.
So I have a and and it you have a lot of patience.
You don't have patience for people, adults, but you have a lot of patience for Liam.
Um it's just when I, you know, when I would hear conversations, I'm cracking up.
I think it's the funniest thing ever.
And I'm like, you know, I'm on speakerphone one day.
Liam, mama, mommy's on the phone.
Mommy's on the phone.
One, two.
Oh, he listens to the one, two, three now, though.
When did that happen?
That's a good thing.
I don't, I don't actually know, honestly.
You never got to three.
That was the thing.
Well, that's the point.
You're not supposed to get to three because three means enough to get to the city.
But you'd go back, and then you say, Liam, I told you what happens if I get through.
No, I never went back.
It just a new infringement.
One, two again.
And then Liam, what happens at three?
One.
You would always go with one, two and never get to three.
Well, lucky for him, he listened to two.
He's a good listener.
It's okay.
No, it wasn't.
You would go back and recount.
It's like No, no, no, no, no.
It just meant he did something else wrong.
It's a new thing wrong.
So you start over, you know, start at the beginning.
But I just, I just love kids being kids.
Yeah, well, now they're not.
Now they're trapped in mass for eight hours a day for a disease.
How's Liam doing with the mask?
It's horrible.
You know what he said to me the other day that broke my heart?
I was showing him a picture or something.
I said, Oh, this is uh snow tubing.
Maybe we should try that.
There's just a picture on a website.
What do you think of this?
And I'm showing it to him because he's kind of young.
And he goes, Where are there masks?
And I thought, oh dear God.
I'm like, Yeah, buddy.
You know, this is uh this is normal.
This is not this what we're doing is not normal.
Sad.
I mean it's disgusting.
It's child abuse.
Hey, look, in one of my kids' cases, you know, all the friends they lost their senior year of high school and their freshman year of college.
And it's you know, it just that part saddens me.
Look, I I the one thing that we got right throughout all this, and Fauci and Company got everything wrong, is that the one thing that never changed is older people.
If you're below 70 and you get this thing, it's 99.
whatever percent.
You're not gonna die from it.
It may suck for a while, but you're not gonna die.
But that was mostly that that is the one thing that they actually that never changed.
And these young kids, are there exceptions?
There are rare exceptions, but like the college kids that come home from school.
I mean, you know what it's like to try and keep masks on these kids?
Forget it.
They're not I believe me, I've tried.
And there's only so much, it's only so far you can get it.
Anyway.
Um I agree, boss, wholeheartedly.
Yeah, but I I just kids um, it'll be forgotten.
It'll be long for it.
I hope so, because I'm telling you one thing.
Me and lots of other parents are at our end, and I've had just about enough.
The lady was such a nice lady.
And and when I when I finally said that I kind of I I totally get what you're going through.
Don't worry about it.
Oh, people know better.
People look at me.
If my son takes his mask off, you God help you if you say something to me today.
Keep it moving.
There's no conversation happening here.
You don't need to look at my child.
Keep going.
Oh my gosh.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
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