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Yeah, another shift show, charade has just started.
Last night on Hannity, I I mentioned my buddy Mark Simone's tweet.
The Democrats impeach Trump every February.
It's now becoming an annual event like the Golden Globes.
Remember last February when they missed the pandemic starting because they were focused on impeachment.
Good points.
Well, so the Democrats predictable, nothing it is, it is an amazing spectacle that is not going to end well, my prediction for the Democrats.
The longer this goes on, and they're saying, well, okay, we know we don't have the votes.
This is this has a predetermined outcome.
But the longer it goes on, the worse it gets for them.
Because he's not president.
There's no removal from office, and more and more we have the same mob in the media that went along with the Democrats and their snap impeachment having to now report about how the attack on the Capitol was pre-planned.
There were organizers, there were people plotting, there were people planning, there were people scheming to make this happen on that day.
Now, why is that important?
Because it takes the whole January 6th rally of Donald Trump inciting the mob to go and cause an insurrection at the Capitol.
Um and it blows it up.
That's a problem for them.
I'll even play some of that coming up throughout the program today.
And so it on top of that, and it gets more interesting.
And I didn't pick this up yesterday.
I don't know why I missed um Maria Maria's show, uh Sunday morning futures, because I usually don't miss it, but she had on White House, former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.
And he pointed out how the president had been very vocal about offering the National Guard and a presence at the Capitol on numerous occasions in January, and he was rebuked every time.
Quote, we know that in January, but also throughout the summer, the president was very vocal in making sure we had plenty of National Guard, plenty of additional support because he supports our rule of law law and supports our law enforcement and offered additional help.
Even in January, that was a given.
As many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense.
That was a direct order from the president.
And yet here is what we see.
All kinds of blame going around, but yet not a whole lot of accountability.
Now, this is why where I think we need the whole 9-11 style commission report.
Um, and you know, look, this is gonna go down three ways.
One way or another, it looks like that this ends a week from today.
And it's gonna be loud and it's gonna be never ending, and it's gonna be repr repetitive, and it's gonna be hyperbole.
It's theater.
This is not real.
This is Washington being the swamp.
When you have a predetermined outcome and you're doing it anyway, that's called waste of taxpayer time, money, dollars, you name it.
Now, we could be discussing well, what do we do to get the guys that were working on the Keystone XL pipeline back to work?
We could be talking about how to get the guys that were constructing the border wall back to work.
We could be talking about, well, how do we better distribute the vaccine that Donald Trump had done with Operation Warp Speed because the governors are incompetent at its distribution, and how can we fix and solve that problem?
We could be working on relief for American families and businesses that have suffered because of the pandemic and subsequent draconian shutdowns of others.
We're not doing any of the above.
And on top of that, you know, we we've got some great ideas for this week.
It's going to be fun.
I'm excited about it all.
Because it just sort of like low-hanging fruit going after Democrats and their rank hypocrisy.
Because the bottom line is Democrats are focusing on the, you know, with all the riots that have occurred in the last year.
The only one they cared about is the one in Washington.
And we now know that the police chief, six separate times called for the National Guard even before they started to be brought in.
They knew hundreds of thousands of people were going to march from the Washington monument to the Capitol.
And they didn't have any preparation for such.
Now we know that Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez has acknowledged she knew a week in advance she had been hearing this is all going to happen.
Well, who knew what and when?
And why do we want to know?
Because we need to protect our institutions.
And yes, we need to protect every elected official.
This transcends any political ideology or philosophy or party.
It doesn't matter if you're a conservative or a liberal or a Republican, a Democrat, they're elected officials.
They need to be protected.
Period.
End of sentence.
And none of which happened.
But the silence over the summer when we had, let's see, police precincts burned to the ground, and we had what, over 2500 uh cops injured in the course of the summer and the rioting with they were being pelted with rocks and bricks and Molotov cocktails and frozen water bottles and sticks and knives, and they were being shot at.
Almost 30 people died as the insurrection there.
We had entire city blocks taken over, commandeered by leftists and democratic politicians saying this is a summer of love zone, a spaghetti potluck dinner zone, a Chaz chop zone, an autonomous zone.
Well, the president wanted to send people in and the occupation, but wasn't allowed to do so.
And the same with attacking federal courthouse buildings and the riots that went on in Portland day after day and night after night, and the utter incompetence and unwillingness to stop or even speak out against the violence and the rioting there.
And for the record, at a briefing today at the White House, as the second impeachment shift show charade starts, was getting underway.
Jensaki, the White House press secretary, pressed on how the Biden administration felt about the incendiary rhetoric from Democrats in Congress.
Well, we've been playing a lot of it.
And that would be Maxine Waters.
That would be Joe Biden.
I want to beat the hell out of Donald Trump.
And that would be Chuck Schumer threatening Supreme Court justices.
That would be Kamala Harris after the police precinct in Minneapolis burned to the ground, saying they're not going to stop.
You beware, you take note on both levels.
They're not going to stop.
They shouldn't stop.
We shouldn't stop.
Okay, in the middle of rioting, maybe not exactly the right words.
And then on top of that, adding uh and and supporting efforts to bail out those people involved in the rioting from jail.
Wow, that's great.
Anyway, uh the attorneys for the president now pointing to comments from 2018, Maxime Waters is one of them.
Called supporters at a rally.
You are to confront them.
You're to con you're to create a crowd, and you're to follow them into the grocery stores.
He's talking about members of the cabinet of Donald Trump.
They're not wanted anywhere anymore.
Biden advisic Cedric Richmond had even defended Waters, saying she had a constitutional right to express those views.
Well, then all the time.
Well, Trump said fight like hell at the January 6th uh rally.
Well, we've played all the montages of every Democrat.
It's a common term of politicians, go out and fight.
Fight for your values, fight for this, fight for that.
They're not saying to go out and have a physical brawl.
And the president, you can't ignore the fact that he said many of you will pay peacefully, patriotically now march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
Well, how do you overcome that shift show?
Whoopsie Daisy over at MBC, they have a reporter noting that you know, all of these instances, Gensaki, for example.
How does this uh how does the White House view this as any different what Waters said?
Well, Joe's the president, he's not a pundit, he's not gonna opine on the back and forth arguments, nor is he watching them uh that are taking place in the Senate.
What happened to Mr. Unity?
I thought he was going to bring the country together.
Or Nancy Pelosi's comments when the Wisconsin State House uh there was their little insurrection issue going on there.
But the president, yeah, apparently offered to deploy the National Guards beforehand, it kind of goes away from all the arguments that have been made.
But okay, Democrats now want to focus in on only one of the many riots this country has experienced over the last year.
Wall Street Journal, good piece out too, that Democrats already know the outcome, but they think it'll hurt the GOP.
Actually, that's beginning to shift.
They're beginning to worry greatly because they know that they're now in the that this will be so time consuming that it will take away from any agenda that they wanted to push through in the first hundred days of Biden.
And then if that's this doesn't work, they're they're thinking about a plan B. Maybe the 14th Amendment, maybe censure.
Anyway, Trump believes that uh we'll we'll see what happens, but we already have 45 Republican senators on record believing it's unconstitutional, and they're right.
And the New York Times, Tom Friedman, you know, is right in all the wrong ways on impeachment.
And, you know, he's talking about, you know, they don't they don't have Republicans in QN in in China.
And and how do we do this week after week, month after month, and think we're a serious country?
We're so deeply unserious as a country now, and we need to put this crap behind us, he says, and get focused on the future, because right now we're gonna be falling farther and farther behind.
Okay, Daily Caller said that the outburst by Friedman was complimenting China on their on their faster trains that they have, in spite of you know, all the other bad stuff that goes on in that country and all the suppression of individual rights and all the territorial ambitions that are taking place there.
Um, so anyway, you know, what what you have is probably both sides looking to avoid a dragged-out impeachment battle is likely, I can't say for certain.
I'd say 95% is gonna be something that's over in a week, and there is some trepidation and fear among a lot of Democrats, and apparently Biden deep down, but Biden, I don't think has the ability to stand up to his radical base.
But if you look at, you know, the president now being out of office as long as he's been out of office.
Okay, well, he's still taking.
He's still he's still bringing all the attention to him.
The insurrection charges, I'm pretty sure this is gonna break down to three separate arguments for the defense, and I don't think it's gonna take them the 16 hours that they've allocated to each side.
And I would argue that the big part of it's gonna be the lack of constitutionality, which would include jurisdictional issues, that he's a private citizen, therefore they don't have the jurisdiction for this trial.
Second, I think it's gonna be argued on you know, the whole issue of of what actually happened, and now that we're learning that it was pre-planned and that there are this was an organized, orchestrated, Pre-planned effort.
Law enforcement is telling us that.
Even the liberal news media mob is telling us that.
Even Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez is telling us that.
And everybody else in between is telling us that.
So now they've got a problem.
FBI investigators, now court documents are all telling us that.
So the idea that this was a spongy spontaneous insurrection, I don't think it's going to work.
And on top of all of that, who's presiding?
It's not Chief Justice John Roberts as the Constitution calls for.
No, they've decided on Patrick Leahy, a guy that is already, again, this this is supposed to be a trial.
A guy that has already said Trump should be convicted as presiding over these proceedings.
Now, does that make does that seem like a fair trial to any decent American?
That doesn't sound like America at all to me.
And that's the that's what that's what's unfolding in your nation's swamp, the sewer.
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So there's all this going on.
I did this show is not going to spend an entire week regurgitating every single argument that we already know is going to be made when we know what the outcome is going to be, that it's predetermined.
I see no point in that at all.
Now, when it gets interesting, we'll let you know.
Because we'll monitor.
I'm unfortunately I have now had to task people that work on radio and TV to have to sit and watch this crap.
It's it's really a horrible thing.
It's like torture.
I actually offered a food bonus.
You can order as much Uber eat scrub hub food that you can possibly consume in the time that you're you must suffer through all of this.
Oh man.
Uh Linda, thank God it's not us, right?
Thank God.
100%.
Oh, could you imagine?
I just it's too much.
I think Linda would break the TV.
Oh, Linda would break the TV.
She still might by the time this is all said and done.
That's correct.
I mean, you just have no idea where that's gonna end up.
Um, all right, but we'll be watching.
It's it's gonna get interesting.
Now, there's three arguments here.
One, the constitutional argument, jurisdictional issues included, they don't have jurisdiction.
Number two is gonna be oh, the snap impeachment with no witnesses, no defense, no due process, nothing.
And and how they they race to get this done because that's what the Democrats do for political purposes.
Now it's a political show trial, because 45 senators say no, it's not constitutional.
Every senator, by the way, I don't care what your political point of view is, you should not be validating this.
This is dangerous to validate and legitimize what the House did here.
Here's an example.
I'm gonna play the longer montage.
Pay attention now.
Remember, Acasio Cortez says she knew a week in advance that this was likely gonna happen.
And we had, you know, the chief of police, Capitol Police, yeah, asking in advance for the National Guard.
Trump offering the National Guard, Mark Meadows saying on on Sunday morning morning futures with Maria Barterromo uh over the weekend.
So all of that happened.
Then now we have court filings and FBI investigators saying it.
And now that has had to result, because the mob, the media went along with all things Democrats, because they're the press office, and even they now know they could not ignore it anymore, especially when the video came out of the pipe bomb pipe bombs actually being planted ahead of time, which now investigators are telling us believe was a diversionary tactic to inflict even more damage.
Anyway, but here's the mob, the media.
Now again, going against the very impeachment, the premise of the impeachment, which is the incitement to insurrection.
Listen.
One of the big questions for investigators has been whether or not whether uh the people who attacked the Capitol, uh whether this was a a just a mob that just got out of control, or whether there was planning.
And we're learning from the from people we're talking to, uh familiar with the investigation, that they're getting indications, uh, some evidence that they've seen that indicates uh that there was some level of planning.
They've noticed uh from looking at surveillance cameras, from looking at some of the weaponry that showed up, that there were people who were at the ellipse where there was a Trump rally earlier in the day.
Some people left the scene of that rally early and appeared to have gone to retrieve weapons that then turned up at the scene of of the riot at the Capitol.
Based on everything the FBI has learned, uh it was not some sort of spontaneous decision by a bunch of quote protesters to go up to Capitol Hill and and storm Capitol Hill.
This was all planned out.
I want to get to this issue of coordination and premeditation because Aline, this is really the leading edge of this investigation.
And for the first time today, we heard the U.S. attorney say that he believes the pipe bombs are connected to the writers and that it was a diversionary tactic.
So, right at the height of this, between 1245 and 115, when President Trump is speaking, you have the first group pushing onto the Capitol complex.
The first pipe bomb is reported at the RNC headquarters here in Washington.
Then at 115, the second is reported at the DNC.
And the U.S. attorney said today he thought they were diversionary, which means they were an effort to pull first responders away from the Capitol at the very timeframe that they were breaching onto the Capitol, so it would further weaken security at that site.
And all of this goes to, I'm sorry, it's a long answer.
It all goes to the idea of premeditation and coordination among individuals.
And now to that chilling new report that there was an FBI internal report the day before the siege, warning of a violent war at the Capitol.
Let's bring in CBS's Jeff McGays, who's been reporting all day.
Good evening, Jeff.
Dora, that FBI notice warned of war at the Capitol, but for some reason security wasn't stepped up there to meet the challenge that that attack would pose.
And how much of it was was planned, how much of this was um strategized ahead of time.
People wandering around exercising their first amendment rights, don't bring ropes and ladders and sledgehammers to a spontaneous event.
This was a planned assault, as if going after a castle.
A week before, one week before, the week prior to the insurrection, I started to get text messages that I needed to be careful.
And that in particular, I needed to be careful about the sixth.
And those text messages came from other members of Congress.
Um, not they were not threats, but they were other members saying that they knew premeditated planned attacks.
They plotted, they planned, they they schemed.
Uh the FBI was warned, and nobody did anything.
Nobody.
Why?
That's our capital.
We the pe that's the country's this this is these are our institutions.
Why didn't they do anything?
You know, a prepared assault.
So that takes the entire argument, the entire article of the snap impeachment, and it disintegrates it.
Because that is the argument.
So the the these the defense has three arguments, three main arguments.
And it really isn't that hard.
One is the constitutionality.
Two, no jurisdiction.
There's no, there's nobody to remove from any office here.
Do they have jurisdiction over a private citizen?
The answer is no, because he's not in office.
So that is a fairly simple argument.
We've we've argued that we've had on more experts analyzing for analyzing that for you again and again.
Now you move, then they'll move to the whole issue this was all premeditated, that they planned these attacks, that there were warnings, intelligence that was all missed, a planned assault on the Capitol.
All right.
Now, well, that doesn't get every mega person that was at the rally off the hook.
Well, if you look at the size of the crowd that showed up at the Washington Monument, it was massive.
Now they knew the night before, because I remember Dan Scavino tweeting out, we can hear you in the West Wing of the White House.
They heard all the people that had been there the night before that were there in Washington to go to the rally.
So law enforcement had plenty of knowledge that the crowd was likely to be large.
Well, the crowd at the Washington monument for the rally was huge.
And then they're going to focus on, okay.
Well, if this is now the definition, and this this is where, you know, this is the this this is the slam dunk end of this case.
Forty-five senators have voted to end the impeachment show trial.
Predetermined outcome, not constitutional, no jurisdiction over a private citizen.
You can't remove somebody from an office they don't hold.
And doesn't matter to Democrats because this is catharda to get out there.
Any remaining rage.
It's sort of like the last Rocky, you know, and his brother-in-law is saying, Rocco, Rocco, clean out the basement.
You know, get rid of whatever demons you're you still have in there.
Well, they're sort of cleaning out their last refuge of rage psychosis and Trump hate here.
And then they're gonna get into this whole thing about the Democrats and the things that they've said.
I mean, I mentioned a number of people.
I mentioned Kamala Harris, I mentioned Joe Biden.
I think you can add probably shifty, you know, the the corrupt congenital liar Adam Schiff.
Maxime Waters has called for harassment and violence against the president, his staffers, his cabinet, and others.
Talk about I'm gonna take Trump out tonight.
All of these these moments, well, now, if this is the definition of insurrection, then that same standard has to apply to everybody.
Chuck Schumer threatening two U.S. Supreme Court justices, Corey Booker, go to the hill, get up, and please get up and in some of the faces of some Congress people.
You know, who talks about taking a president behind a gym to beat the hell out of them?
You imagine if I ever said that about any democratic president, I never, by the way, I never would.
Never, ever.
Political differences are different, are quite different in the context of the precinct burnt to the ground in Minneapolis.
That goes to the Kamala Harris part.
You know, nearly every media outlet now, and the FBI and court documents and Congresswoman Alexandria Casio Cortez, that this was all premeditated, pre-planned, and they're giving the details of such because that would then mean there was, you know, then you can go to the president's words.
They're going to spend a lot of time.
The president said to fight like hell or you're going to lose your country.
Okay, I got a montage of Democrats saying fight, fight, fight.
You want to hear them?
I'll play it again if you want to hear it.
What is Congress do about this?
We fight.
Uh we keep fighting.
We're gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting for this.
That doesn't mean we don't fight.
I think we have to fight harder than ever.
We know this is gonna be a hard fight.
It's gonna be a competitive fight.
We should dream big, fight hard, and take back our country.
This is the fight of our lives.
Stand up and fight for the best of who we are.
And I'm prepared to fight and I know how to fight.
But I'm ready for that fight.
Increasing numbers of people are ready for that fight.
Stand up and fight for democracy.
I will fight every day until he is impeached.
There's only two ways to win a fight.
You can win a fight through submission or through exhaustion.
We can't just imagine a better future.
We've got to fight for it.
We continue to fight for a progressive agenda in our future.
That's what we're fighting against when we fight Republicans in Congress who don't want to pass legislation now.
This is time for every single one of us to get up and fight for our country.
This new freshman class in Congress has got to come in and really set the agenda and fight, fight, fight.
Fight, fight, fight.
Well, authorities, the FBI were warned about an impending war at the Capitol that was being planned even weeks in advance.
How did they miss the intelligence?
Why didn't they react to the intelligence?
Why didn't they accept the president's offer for National Guard troops?
Why did they deny the Capitol police chief the guard troops that he asked for before and during?
You know, you've got a new network now.
This comprehensive analysis.
New York Post had a story today.
Uh of a sprawling network of federal and local law enforcement across the U.S. is designed to stave off these terrorist threats.
They failed to protect the Capitol.
We can't have that in this country in a post-9-11 world.
I don't want anybody to have to live through any of these moments again.
We need to secure our institutions and yes, every elected official.
You know, and the idea that officials didn't act on intelligence.
Why not?
The Wall Street Journal said yesterday.
Intelligence that they had included warnings from federal local law enforcement.
Quote, fusion centers around the country warning of protesters traveling to DC with weapons, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing internal documents viewed by the newspaper.
FBI field office was warned by federal and local agencies handling security for the protest of and demonstrations, sharing maps of the Capitol, and that the actual call for war.
Despite the warnings, the intelligence arm of the Department of Homeland Security wrote, Well, there's nothing significant to report in a January 5th memo to law enforcement.
As a result, security forces in DC were not prepared for what was we now know premeditated and planned that day.
We know, according to the journal, that the heads of these fusion centers, as they call them, where local law enforcement share intelligence with federal authorities, they hosted a call on January 4th warning about the number of participants planning to bring weapons.
The intelligence was shared with the DC Fusion Center.
And in turn, the offices were tasked with providing the security for January 6th.
Department of Homeland Security didn't answer the journal's questions if it took any action based on the call while the FBI said it held a separate call to brief other law enforcement officials.
Why didn't they bring in all of their guys and insist the National Guard needed to be called up?
They also pointed out and highlighted how the FBI field office, Norfolk, Virginia, pointed to a message board where one user was urging protesters to go there, quote, ready for war, sharing maps of the Capitol complex.
That intelligence was shared with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in DC, not acted upon by the FBI, according to the report.
This is de this this this is you know, we have a lot of enemies as a country.
We may have a lot of disagreements as Americans, but we're one America.
We're united States of America.
And one thing we need to agree on is we need to keep our country safe.
And all these other battles become quite insignificant when you have people that are planning such an attack.
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Hour two Sean Hannity show.
David Schoen, friend of this program, uh, who is the president's lawyer, has now begun the arguments.
Now, the first part of this is arguing over the constitutionality.
There'll be a motion to dismiss after this, and that will represent the the floor of where this will ultimately end.
And in other words, if you get the 45 votes that Rand Paul's motion got prior to this, that would mean that 45 Republican senators, which we would expect, uh vote again after the motion to dismiss, not to impeach the president, then that would mean that this is a an exercise in futility with the complete, full, predetermined outcome.
Um before we get to Jordan Seculo and Greg Jarrett getting the legal arguments here.
Let's go to our friend.
You recognize his voice, David Schoen, who just he started turning up the heat pretty early.
They tell us that we have to have this impeachment trial such as it is to bring about unity.
But they don't want unity, and they know this so-called trial will tear the country in half, leaving tens of millions of Americans feeling left out of the nation's agenda, as dictated by one political party that now holds the power in the White House and in our national legislature.
But these they're proud Americans who never quit getting back up when they're down, and they don't take dictates from another party based on partisan force feeding.
This trial will tear this country apart, perhaps like we have only seen once before in our history.
And to help the nation heal, we now learn that the House managers in their wisdom have hired a movie company and a large law firm to create, manufacture, and splice for you a package designed by experts to chill and horrify you and our fellow Americans.
They want to put you through a 16-hour presentation over two days, focusing on this as if it were some sort of blood sport.
And to what end?
For healing, for unity, for accountability?
Not for any of those.
For they surely they are much better ways to achieve each.
It is again for pure, raw, misguided partisanship that makes them believe playing to our worst instincts somehow is good.
They don't need to show you movies to show you that the riot happened here.
We will stipulate that it happened, and you know all about it.
This is a process fueled irresponsibly by base hatred by these house managers and those who gave them their charge, and they are willing to sacrifice our national character to advance their hatred and their fear that one day they might not be the party in power.
They have a very different view of democracy and freedom from Justice Jackson.
Vance at one point David Schoen just just leveled them, and I was actually surprised by this.
Uh, came out with, yeah, okay, what does impeachment basically mean to the Democrats?
Nothing.
Um with dates starting from pretty much day one in January of 2017, just a small, we have a big montage we use, but it's small montage of impeach him, impeach him, impeach him, impeach.
This is all they've ever wanted to do.
Country knows this at this point, but let's play that part.
The precedent and snap impeachment process, the House of Representatives denied every attribute of fundamental constitutional due process that Americans correctly have come to believe.
Is part of what makes this country so great.
How and why did that happen?
It is a function of the insatiable lust for impeachment in the House for the past four years.
Consider this.
I want to say this for Donald Trump, who I may well be voting to impeach.
Donald Trump has already done a number of things which legitimately raise the question of impeachment.
I don't respect this president, and I will fight every day until he is impeached.
That is grounds to start impeachment proceedings.
Those are grounds to start impeachment.
Those are grounds to start impeachment proceedings.
Yes, I think that's grounds to start impeachment proceedings.
I rise today, Mr. Speaker to call for the impeachment of the President of the United States of America.
I continue to say MP Jim and page 45.
MP's 45.
So we're calling upon the House to begin impeachment hearings immediately.
On the impeachment, Donald Trump.
Would you vote yes or no?
I would vote yes.
I would vote.
I would vote too.
Because we're gonna go in there, we're gonna impeach the mother.
But the fact is, I introduced articles of impeachment in July of 2017.
If we don't impeach this president, he will get re-elected.
My oath requires me to be for impeachment, have an impeachment hearing.
He needs to scarlet eye on his chest.
Representatives should begin impeachment proceedings against this president.
And it's time to bring impeachment charges against him.
bring impeachment charges.
My personal view is that he richly deserves impeachment.
I'm here at an impeachment rally and we are ready to impeach Bob!
It's been four straight years of this.
I assume a motion to dismiss follows and we will then get what will be a floor, meaning they're not going to get 17 Republicans to go along with this.
Joining us, Greg Jarrett, host of his new podcast, The Brief, author of two New York Times number one bestsellers, Jordan Sekulow, executive director for the American Center for Law and Justice, co-host of the Jay Sekulow Live, author of the bestseller The Next Red Wave.
Thank you both for being here.
I'm watching David Schoen.
We know him well on this program, Greg Jarrett, and pretty powerful open so far from what I see.
I can't really watch the rest of it.
David has really put the matter in proper perspective and done so persuasively and compellingly, and he needed to do that.
I mean, you know, Jamie Raskin, the lead House manager, on behalf of Democrats, took just three minutes into his opening argument before he queued up the graphic video of the mob and blamed it all on Trump when Trump at one point in time said, you know, we need to fight like hell for our country.
Trump was using the term figuratively, not literally, and Raskin knows that.
Democrats know that.
And they By the way, Greg, I just played in the last hour for this show, a montage of Democrats saying, fight, I'm gonna fight, we'll fight, we'll fight.
You know, common term.
I mean, how many times have have lawmakers on the floor of Congress said we're gonna fight this, we're gonna fight that?
And of course they don't mean it literally, they mean it figuratively.
So they're taking it wholly out of context and conveniently leaving out of the clips what Trump really said to the crowd that was gathered, act peacefully and patriotically when you march down to the Capitol.
So it was a setup.
It was cleverly put together by a movie company, and this is all intended to stoke and gin up a motion.
Why?
Because they lack merit on the case in earnest.
You know, Jordan Seculo, adding to that, you know, there are three aspects of this, and and today's argument is the constitutionality.
Uh although David Schoen did discuss The the fact with a snap impeachment there had been no investigation.
Um we now have all of the details of a massive intelligence uh failure that occurred.
And in other words, we know this was premeditated.
These were plans attacked.
There was a plot scheme, planning.
Uh the FBI, they go into great detail, had been specifically warned and didn't do a thing about it.
Um and on and even a New York Post piece today that you have an admitted Black Lives Matter supporter, John Sullivan just got slapped with additional charges for playing a primary role in instigating violence during the January 6th Capitol riot, according to their reporting.
Um so it you know, that's aspect number two that well they snap impeachment, but it was pre-planned, it wasn't a spontaneous quote uh insurrection incited by the words of Donald Trump, and and lastly, uh what about the insurrectionist language that I play often of the Democrats themselves?
Yeah, well, I mean, Sean, this is a continuation, this impeachment, and I was on the floor of the first one on that legal team of what is we call in law, especially in international law, but it's certainly been uh experienced by this president as lawfare.
And he's going through it right now, and it's not just the impeach the second impeachment, Mueller, the first impeachment over a phone call that 35 other people are on.
He's got DAs, he's got the Georgia Secretary of State referring a phone call uh to a DA there, he's got tax, you know, the tax issue still is in question.
Uh the New York DA, the New York Attorney General, uh Florida is going after for where he lives.
I mean, it is nonstop.
They cannot let go of a former president.
And you know, that that again, I think, plays into the argument of he's not looking to, it's not like you can escape the legal system by leaving office as president.
In fact, when you leave office as present, the legal system can come at you at a hundred miles per hour quicker than it could before because of the protections you have while you're present.
And this idea that he's this this January exception, I know they wanted to, you know, do something that could give the hashtag going.
That is not the case.
If the president is is even believed to be guilty of inciting insurrection, as as David Schoen said, he should be in handcuffs.
You know, he should be he should be getting knocked on the door.
None of that has occurred.
Uh, even because all those prosecutors know, even the ones that hate him, that they're not going to be able to meet any of those standards in a court of law.
So they're trying to do an impeachment by arguing that they have a constitutional authority to try a private citizen, but that they can ignore First Amendment rights.
I mean, that's going to be part of their second argument here.
That it's really the first amendment doesn't apply when you're president.
You're held to a higher standard.
And no one is held to a higher standard than the Constitution itself, including those members.
And so, yes, they can try to show video.
I think it shows desperation.
The House managers have gotten caught.
And I think you already hear parts of how they're going to take apart their entire article of impeachment, that it was written wrong.
That it did it actually lack the process, that they rushed this, that they they a month and a half later, this is not the same, and the people don't feel the same.
And and why are we talking about you know Donald Trump every day now for the next week and a half, and in the whole lead up to this, instead of the what the Biden administration is trying to accomplish?
And it's because of that fear that President Trump and his supporters, and I think the word was used cancel out, the cancel culture, they want to cancel this president, and they want to can't somehow cancel his supporters.
You know, you could shut down his Twitter account, but you can't shut down seventy-five million people, and their views aren't going to change.
And in fact, you're reminding them about why they have these views.
So constitutionally, you know, it's like even Senator Corny said, and I keep going back to it.
They go down this road and they they they'll hold this vote today, and yes, it will show that the president cannot will not be impeached, he'll be acquitted again, uh, he'll be vindicated again.
But they will go down a road that now opens the door for Republican senators to say, you know what, and the you know, a Republican House to say, you know what, Barack Obama with that fast and furious where people got killed.
Is he directly responsible?
What about the IRS targeting of conservative groups?
That that's certainly a high crime and misdemeanor.
Do we now impeach him for just the purpose of going through it, and maybe then we get a vote on so he can't hold office anymore to take any advan take away all his advantages of being a former president, like his security.
You know, that's an issue here too.
Taking away your security, taking away your your ability to keep your family safe.
Uh that that is that that again will be part of the I think the bigger argument here.
But today it's all about the vote that happens.
Uh it seems like both sides now are shunning witnesses.
Yeah, there won't be any live witnesses.
They're simply manufacturing a case of a motion uh via videotape by a professional film company.
That's that's what uh Democrats and House managers are doing.
They're playing to a motion, not to facts, not to evidence.
Now we know uh that there is compelling evidence that the attackers plan their assault days and weeks in advance.
This is evidence collected by the FBI.
It's impossible for a person to incite a pre-planned event.
And so this just underscores how Nancy Pelosi hastily crafted sloppy article of impeachment, charging Trump with incitement where there's no actual evidence of incitement.
Uh, you know, the nowhere to the president advocate or direct his supporters to launch an assault on the nation's capital to attack police, to threaten lawmakers, and commit destruction of property and looting and vandalism.
Nowhere.
Show me where the president said that.
And Democrats will say, well, you know, there are clips of people who say they were inspired by the president.
Well, it that's irrelevant.
This is a specific intent crime called incitement.
You have to intend it.
Nowhere did the president intend that.
Look at his words.
It's not how people perceive the president president's words, but what he said and what he intended.
There is no incitement case.
Yeah.
Your take.
How does it end, Jordan Secular?
It ends with the president being acquitted and vindicated yet again.
Uh they would they're trying to tarnish him and his supporters.
They don't really care about the in-game.
I think they care more about just showing the videos, trying to tarnish him for the midterms and the effect he could have on that.
They're barely hanging on to power in the House and the Senate.
And so I think though, again, it's going to end in an acquittal.
We're going to see that base vote, like you said very soon, if the 45 remain, the the Democrat, the House managers know they've lost already.
That's why I think that uh that the witness issue is probably uh not going to happen because neither side wants, especially the Democrat side.
They were honestly, I think the president's I could call a lot of witnesses to to talk about exactly what Greg just said.
Is that all this was pre-planned, that we had all this intel as a failure by the sergeant of arms, the failure of these other uh policing departments to put enough security in place.
And for God's sakes, if we had to ban, if we can't use the word fight in political rhetoric, then none of the read all of the fundraising emails you get from both sides of the aisle using that kind of language.
And if I say, well, that encouraged me, yeah, that's the reason why I punched my neighbor who's a Democrat, or that's the reason by Democrat neighbor punched me.
That is not the country we want to live in when we when we care about the freedom of speech, which they are trying to trample on.
I mean, that's the second part of this.
Trampling on our first amendment rights.
Yeah, no, you're right on all points.
Uh, as are you, Greg.
All right, Jordan Seculo, Greg uh Jarrett, thank you.
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All right, 25 till the top of the hour, impeachment shifts sham charade show, and uh it's everything we predicted with a predetermined outcome.
It's pretty amazing.
The the underlying theme of the impeachment charge of inciting insurrection.
We're spending a lot of time on this because the Democrats, they're s only singularly focused on well, only one riot that they cared about over the last year.
And the only one they cared about, there were a lot of them last year, but the one they cared about was in DC.
And their argument is an incitement towards insurrection.
And well, we had riots all summer.
In the biggest cities run by liberal Democrats, homicides were up 30% last year.
In a period over the summer, we had police precincts occupied and others burned to the ground.
We had city blocks occupied, uh Chaz Chop Autonomous, Summer of Love, Spaghetti Potluck Dinner Zones, where people died.
New York City, a portion of which, yes, would be reprim well, all of which is represented by Chucky, and part of which is represented by, say, Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez, the real speaker of the House.
Yeah, they recorded a record 462 murders last year.
That's up 45% from the prior year.
They had a 97% increase in the number of shootings last year.
Uh we know in New York, for example, 96% of people shot were African American or Latino.
Uh, and if the people shot, you know by they weren't being shot by the comps.
But the thing is, so they they care about remember the silence was deafening.
The the comments of Kamala Harris, the insurrection inciting comments, they're not gonna stop.
They shouldn't stop, they won't stop.
You better beware, you better take note on both levels.
It's not gonna and we shouldn't stop.
That was after the police precinct in Minneapolis was burned to the ground.
That's that's after the rioting that that was going on there and elsewhere.
You know, so let's just take a little bit of some of the incitement insurrection language of the hypocritical Democrats in terms of all of the other riots that took place in the last year, and then we'll dovetail it into the sounds of what actually happened as during and after the rhetoric was being used by them.
and you decide.
Picks in a blanket, brown like bacon!
Picks in a blanket, brown like bacon!
Punch some people in the face when they seek to destroy the moots!
And we need to start killing people.
First off, we need to start killing the one house.
The White House must die.
The White House they must go.
The White House.
Now more than ever, we must choose to fight.
We must choose to resist.
We must choose to stand up for what we believe in.
Teach your kids to throw that cop car in the garbage.
That's about to go.
That has got to go.
This fight will be long.
This fight will be difficult.
And so I call on everybody standing here, those who can hear my voice.
Then we now must be determined to fight for the long haul.
All right, there it is.
Oh, you have a direct reaction response to the incitement, the insurrectionist language of the left and the riots that they ignored that they never talked about, that nobody ever got impeached over, uh, that was going on pretty much most of the summer.
Anyway, Congressman Andy Biggs is with us, co-chair border security caucus representative from Arizona.
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And uh, Congressman, I think we could have the exact same impeachment for Kamala Harris, Joe Biden who wants to beat the hell out of Trump when he's the president.
Uh Chuck Schumer threatening Supreme Court justices, Kamala Harris, you know, after the police precinct burn and the rioting, they're not gonna stop.
They shouldn't stop, we shouldn't stop.
Uh Nancy Pelosi, we could take her back to her Wisconsin days and her support of the rioting in that Capitol.
Uh and uh Maxine Waters that takes the cake.
Uh I'm gonna take Trump out tonight.
So I think we have a a lot of hypocrisy on display here.
Well, Sean, there's never a shortage of hypocrisy in Washington, DC, but it you're seeing the two-tier system.
I mean, that that what this is all about is nothing about uh January sixth.
That was the pretext to do what they've always wanted to do.
They just want to continue to hassle Donald Trump and they would like to erase his legacy, his good policies, everything.
And you're right.
I mean, uh, we hear we have heard language all summer long.
Don't forget uh you've got the new uh uh representative from Missouri who says that the the prison riot, the jail riot was uh just a bunch of her constituents, and she wants to get in there and help them out and make sure they're all right.
That's the type of of thing that's going on up here constantly.
So so we can't be surprised at what we're hearing uh uh so far in this here in the in the impeachment hearing.
It's just not a surprise at all.
And it's it the double standard is obvious.
Now, uh I don't think that the president we we already know what the outcome is.
It's a predetermined outcome.
So they're putting on a show and they've got their tapes and they got their pictures, but now we know something that's very critical and factual and and relevant to the the whole snap impeachment.
Why you don't have a snap impeachment, you actually need an investigation, and that is that we now have all the evidence.
We have court documents, we have Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez for that matter.
Uh we now have FBI, we have investigators and intelligence and videos of what was a pre-planned an event that was planned and plotted and schemed way in advance and then orchestrated by those people responsible.
Now, other did some people that went to the rally, did they join in?
Yes.
Uh is that Donald Trump's fault?
Well, he said to peacefully patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
I don't think you have a case to make there.
No, you're exactly right.
I mean, uh they we had two hours of debate in the House.
And and that's we need to find out what Nancy Pelosi knew, what Chuck Schumer knew, and when they knew it.
Uh there was there's not been a complete investigation here.
And so what we what we have found out is that there was uh I mean, you don't have a pipe bomb that just shows up uh hours before President Trump speaks as as part of this coordinated uh attack on the Capitol.
I mean, and it was coordinated.
And the president was still speaking when the the Capitol's already being breached.
So to say that he and incited something is it's it's against the standard that we know is is the law, and it's also against the timeline and the facts and the reasonable uh standard here.
So in reality, what you've got is you've got people who rushed to a judgment, and they rushed to a judgment because they hate this former pre now former President Trump so badly that they're willing to say or do anything, and uh they actually hate those of us who support President Trump as well.
How ironic is it that they have a guy leading their impeachment team uh from your body, the House of Representatives, uh Jamie Raskin, who is the very guy who challenged the results of the 2016 election, and then you got a guy that sits on the House Intelligence Committee, uh Swalwell that we now know had a long-term relationship with uh with Fang Fang, the the Chinese spy.
How's he how does he manage to survive all of this?
You know, Sean, it would be laughable, but but in order to really appreciate irony, you have to be able to know shame.
And these people don't know shame.
So so you're right.
Uh Raskin was the was uh objected in 2017 to uh one of the states uh certifying.
You got Swawell and his issues, you've got other people on there uh on that uh committee that just uh really don't have any business being there.
And the reality is it is ironic.
It is laughable, but they don't know that because they don't know shame.
They're not embarrassed by it.
They should be embarrassed, but they're not.
Well, I don't think that's the case.
All right.
So Democrats, from all my sources, they're more afraid of this seemingly than Republicans.
Doesn't look like witnesses on either side are going to be called.
So at that point, is this all over?
Because I understand Tim Kane, maybe Susan Collins and others say, well, we might move on to the 14th Amendment or censure.
Is that dead on arrival also?
And what's the process for that?
Well, uh, I I think the impeachment's gonna be uh that's a fate company, it's not gonna happen, no conviction, but the censure, um, you know, that that might happen.
That that might happen because it takes uh my understanding takes a smaller vote of the majority.
Uh they a lot of people say, Well, we should we should come after him for some reason.
I do think though that they're going to be swarming upstream at that point because the tide, the momentum will will the tide will have gone out on them.
This is their this is their big moment.
It's failing, and it will fail, and to do anything more uh would just make them look even more petty, even more uh uh uh uh amazingly weak than they already appear.
And Sean, just never forget, I never forget this.
How would it be to have Donald Trump living in your head every day so that you know you're gonna lose this, but you say, okay, well, we'll try something else.
That's that's kind of what's going on, and the tide is going out on him.
The momentum is lost.
Well, I think that the country's gonna see this and they're gonna say, enough's enough.
But uh, okay, thank you, Congressman.
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Uh Joe in the great state of Ohio.
What's up, Joe?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Good, Sean.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, sir.
What's happening?
Hey, two things, real quick.
First of all, about the election, you know, uh completely unconstitutional.
I don't understand how they think they're gonna impeach a guy that's already out of office, best president ever, uh, in my opinion, anyhow.
Uh secondly, you know, I'm real worried about our country.
Uh we're we're essentially teaching the next generation here that it's okay to lie, cheat, and manipulate the system.
Uh, we have a guy in office that, you know, we don't know if there was fraud, we don't know for sure because nobody investigated.
Our government didn't investigate it, and I think it's a shame.
It's really a shame.
It's a it's a just a how do you have an impeach a snap impeachment and now look at what's coming out.
A snap thing about this, a snap impeachment where you don't even get you do no informational background.
There's no no research whatsoever.
Now we're discovering that all of this apparently there were organizers that plotted planned and scheme the whole thing, accompanying videotape.
Uh then you listen to Trump's words, not the distorted montages that they're putting out or putting up, well, his his tweets that he that he had out there and saying, well, that this he said that the election was stolen, or the president said to fight like hell.
Well, we we've montaged over and over again all the Democrats saying fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
Uh so that's kind of a common term used in all of politics.
And yeah, they'll waste our time, they'll waste our money.
But there is look, even the Democrats sense deep down inside, the longer this goes on, the worse it is for them, and especially because everybody knows the outcome.
Um, so why are they doing it?
Because they've they want their la they want to squeeze their last bit of rage and spew it on him.
Uh as but they're not governing the country.
They're not making there's a nine percent poll out today that of people, only nine percent think that the economy under Biden is getting better.
Okay, I think the American people are speaking loudly, fix the economy, get aid to people that need it, open up the economy, start distributing the the vaccine in an organized fashion.
So um that's on them.
They they you know, if they want to be small, if they want to be petty, as predictably is usually the case, then let them go do their thing.
That's their thing.
That's what they like to do.
That's what they're good at.
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All right, we'll get to the legal arguments, which are really weak, pathetic, the pure hypocrisy double standard that we've been watching unfold uh as the beginning of what is now, I guess I guess this goes on to Monday.
What's the night maybe next week into the they say the 16th is the vote, so not exactly a long period of time.
The last impeachment, this time last year.
Remember, they weren't focused on coronavirus when Donald Trump was.
And I guess this is probably just their annual event event.
Republican president, February impeachment trial.
Um, because this is the Democrats.
They're doing so much to help your economic situation.
They're doing so much to help your personal income.
They're doing so much to help workers by firing everybody and sending out pink slips and promising millions of jobs in the new Green Deal industry.
No jobs available, uh, but they're gonna focus on this.
All right, so we'll get to that.
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The investigation into the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol a week ago had new evidence that it was planned.
Also shocking new reporting that the FBI received a very specific warning before the riot.
That FBI notice warned of war at the Capitol, but for some reason, security wasn't stepped up there to meet the challenge that that attack would pose.
That there was an FBI internal report the day before the siege, warning of a violent war at the Capitol.
The FBI admitting that it had intelligence before the insurrection, that people were planning to travel to DC with the intent to cause violence.
All right, there you have it.
Uh yeah, all of a sudden we're finding out oh man, a lot of this happened uh uh ahead of time, and a lot of this, well, I can't believe this, but uh it looks like people plotted and planned and schemed and orchestrated an attack on the Capitol.
Now, did some uh the one percent, as I say, of the people that attended the rally join in and violate the law?
Absolutely.
Those people are gonna be in trouble.
Yep, every one of them.
And but the fact is that there were warnings left and right, and we now know that the Capitol Police Chief had requested uh how many six separate times that the guard be called up.
Uh, we also know we've also learned that in fact Mark Meadows saying that the president, the President Trump at the time, offered to deploy 10,000 National Guard troops ahead of January 6th.
He said that to Maria uh on her Sunday program, Sunday Morning Futures, and he said, yeah, um, yeah, Trump had been vocal about offering Capitol Police and National Guard presence at the Capitol on multiple occasions last month.
He was rebuked every time.
We know not only in January, but throughout the summer, the president was vocal Of making sure we had plenty of National Guard uh troops and additional support because he supports the rule of law and law enforcement and offered all the additional help.
And in January, he offered as many as 10,000 troops, and they were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense, a direct order from the president.
Well, that puts a whole different spin on things.
And, you know, so I I think that kind of lays out and kind of to bear all of the things that the Democrats have been arguing.
Uh joining us now is Mark Hemingway.
He's a senior writer for Real Clear Investigations.
Uh we'll get his take on this uh shift show, this show trial with a predetermined outcome.
Uh the rest of the nation's trying to get back to work, trying to pay their mortgages, their rent, and deal with draconian shutdowns and and get a hold of the virus that's been mismanaged by many democratic governors around the country.
Uh, Mark, thanks for joining us.
Glad to be here.
Let's talk about your take on this about democratic impeachment managers suppressing witnesses and other tactics to protect Biden and allow you know his media supporters to later cast allegations on some other things.
We'll get to that, but what's your take on this?
On the current impeachment, uh, you know, uh what it well, it ties into what the happened with the first impeachment.
I mean, part of the problem we're dealing with right now is that by violating so many standards of process and transparency with the first impeachment, we have a situation here where Democrats have politicized and cheapened this second impeachment proceeding to the point where you know we have a situation where most moderate Republicans in in this Senate are already saying that this is a farce, and we know that there's no point in going through this because he's he's going to be acquitted.
But you know, secondarily, the impeachment was one of our most solemn processes for holding uh democratically elected leaders accountable, and now it's just being seen completely as a politicized process that doesn't mean anything.
You know, you've you've written extensively about, for example, the first impeachment, and what I could never understand in all of that, with all of the witnesses, they were all hearsay witnesses.
This all started because of not a real whistleblower, but a hearsay whistleblower uh that was anonymous on top of everything else.
Meanwhile, the whistleblowers post-election that saw irregularities with the election process were completely ignored by the media, which I think is a double standard.
Uh but all of you had hearsay, a hearsay whistleblower, anonymous.
You had hearsay witnesses, and you had opinion witnesses.
You had only one fact witness, correct me, Mark Hemingway if I'm wrong.
And then one fact witness that talked to Donald Trump said, no quid pro quo, none at all.
No, he wants nothing.
Those that was the exact phrase.
Now, Joe Biden's on tape, leveraging a billion U.S. tax dollars to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor that he knew we all know now, was investigating his zero experienced 50-year-old son Hunter, who is being paid millions.
Now, why didn't that rise to the level of impeachment?
Well, that was, you know, a key aspect of the first impeachment and why it was such a farce in so many ways, which is to say if the Biden family had corruption issues, then you know, the truth would have been a defense for Donald Trump in the impeachment proceeding.
Would it not have?
I mean, it would have been perfectly reasonable for the president under national security grounds to ask, you know, whether or not, you know, Joe Biden and his family were leveraging their political connections to engage in corrupt financial dealings.
But that was never allowed to be a question that was addressed in the first impeachment.
And in fact, they specifically went out of their way to hide any questions about it.
Um Adam Schiff deposed all of the witnesses except for the first one that you already mentioned, who you know, sort of embarrassed Schiff by establishing that there was no quit pro quo, and quite convincingly.
And after that first witness, Schiff deposed every person in the House impeachment trial in such a manner that it was done under in secretive um testimony, and Republicans could not talk about what that witness said under questioning without facing ethnic charges when it was over.
Meanwhile, they were leaking the one-sided, you know, testimony transcripts they were giving beforehand, so the press could run wild with this one-sided speculation.
I mean, impeachment, like I said again, it was supposed to be a solemn process for holding people accountable, and it was completely non-transparent.
I mean, who could trust that um after what they had been through?
And now we're in a situation here where Democrats are demanding more accountability, but the well is still poisoned that there's no reason for Republicans to go along with because they cannot trust Democrats to run a fair impeachment process.
They can't.
I mean, if we're going to be honest about this, and I I just got into this in the last half hour or last hour, my friend Andy Biggs.
And then the point we that we were making with him is that when you take the language of the left and the utter silence of the left uh in terms of the last impeachment, and it is kind of amazing because there was a lot of riots that took place in the last year, and this seems to be the only one that they really cared about.
We had uh police precincts burned to the ground.
We had police officers uh at over 2,025 or so injured.
Uh we had nearly 30 people dead as a result of the rioting.
And what did we hear?
You know, people like Kamala Harris saying, You better beware, you better take note on both levels.
They're not gonna stop, they shouldn't stop.
Uh and we shouldn't stop.
Is that insurrectionist language?
Um you would think so.
Um there were, you know, you forgot there were sixty Secret Service agents injured in a single night of rioting at the White House trying to protect the president.
The president had to be moved to a secure location.
That was not a cause for urgency.
That was not a symbolic attack on the seat of democracy.
Um, you know, that was never regarded as anything, you know, uh that that was not regarded as a crisis.
And and it perhaps it should have been, you know, certainly by the standards of what we're treating what happened on January 6th, which, you know, I agree was a very serious thing.
But but you're absolutely right.
The duplicity and the double standards here again make it very hard for the average citizen to look at what's going on, to look at the process and say, you know, what this is fair.
And but they're probably concluding the opposite.
You know, when when riots happen when Republicans do it, it's it's the end of democracy when you know the entire media um establishment buys in, when the entire corporate establishment buys in and supports ongoing riots, you know, the across, you know, dozens and dozens of U.S. cities that, you know, do billions of dollars in damage, you know, you know, kill dozens of people, um, that's okay.
Um and I just don't see how we get through this current impeachment process without people significant number of voters being disgusted by the duplicity at least.
Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty an amaz it's really an amazing time.
You know, and you can add some other issues here that begin to flow from all of this, the double standard, the hypocrisy, which is pretty breathtaking.
Um then you go back to the first impeachment.
Now you got uh a federal criminal investigation for possible tax fraud as it relates to you know 50-year-old Hunter Biden.
Uh then you have big tech censoring the New York Post story, you know, with a accompanying picture and I'm told other far worse pictures, but the one that they they printed had Hunter asleep with a crackpipe in his mouth, barely a word about it.
And it's it's pretty amazing to me that that goes under the radar by so many others.
And you know, here you are an investigative reporter, and you you do the comparison uh objectively, you tell me, am I am I being uh too conservative here, too prejudiced in my outlook in life?
Well, you know, I don't think so.
I mean, and again, it goes back to the first impeachment.
You know, we weren't allowed to ask any questions publicly about Biden and pe about Biden corruption and whether or not this was a problem.
You know, we didn't have any sort of like public hearing on these issues, and not only do we not have any public hearing on these issues, once we got through impeachment, basically the word had gotten out.
The Democrats suppressed asking questions about corruption, so at the by the time the New York Post runs around in the heart of the campaign, everyone's decided that the questions about Biden corruption have been and asked and answered.
So they completely suppress the New York Post story to the point where they take the you know, absolutely stunning, you know, move where they censor it on social media online.
Biden ekes out the narrowest victory of 40,000 votes spread across three states, and then you know, barely two months after the election, we we come to find out that, oh, by the way, there has been an ongoing Justice Department investigation into Hunter Biden's corruption for years, and oh, by the way, you know, we we already had in the the heat of the campaign knowledge of one man coming Forward and saying that Joe Biden was personally involved in this.
Um, you know, and even now, no one's asking any questions.
He's the president now.
So if you if you were at least gonna, you know, pretend to um, you know, uh try and swing the election for Biden, you know, you could at least you'd think take a breather and go back to doing your regular journalistic responsibility of holding the guy in power responsible now.
We have a serious, you know, um interest in knowing whether or not the president of the United States is in any way beholden to these business dealings that Hunter Biden was making with foreign governments, including China.
Um, you know, this is a very, very serious matter, and journalists need to take the responsibility to getting to the bottom of that very, very seriously.
Let me ask you about another real clear investigation that has to do with how Democrats crafted the first impeachment, helping, you know, and the impact it had on 2020 in the and the help of the media, and more specifically, you know, if you look at the razor thin swing state uh margins,
um, perhaps am I wrong in thinking that if the American people had access to a lot of the information that was suppressed on behalf of Joe Biden by big tech, by the news media, the mob as I call them.
Uh is it is it a leap to think that that could have swung the election in Trump's favor?
Oh, not at all.
I mean, there's been polling that has shown basically that there's a you know that almost certainly Biden would have lost if it had been sort of widely discussed.
You know, there were there were polls that showed that huge numbers of Biden voters weren't even aware of the Hunter Biden corruption stuff.
It was so successfully blocked out by this, you know, sort of, you know, I hate to use the word, but collusion between the Democratic Party and the media.
Um and I I have no doubt that uh it would have made a massive difference in the election if the press had been fair and in terms of you know covering that stuff.
And we all know if there had been this kind of corruption involving one of the Trump kids, you know, the media would have, you know, gone overboard.
On top of that, you know, in November, just at the election, we had reporters like Sam Stein, who I believe is now the White House editor for Politico, like literally spiking the football online and saying that the difference between the Biden story and the Hillary Clinton laptop story that was the big October surprise with Anthony Wiener back in 2016,
was that we made sure that in the media, we made sure that the Hunter Biden laptop story didn't spread out into you know the mainstream news, and we we deliberately made that choice to call it Russian disinformation, and and that must have been the the difference in the Trump's narrow victory in 2016 and Trump's narrow victory in 2020.
He may not have been wrong, but you know, learning just a few weeks later that they had suppressed the true story, you think that would prompt some sort of you know dramatic reflection upon the media establishment that they went out calling a story that turned out to be entirely.
Mark, I'm I'm kind of laughing about media reflection or introspection uh or an examination of their practices.
Uh these are the same people that that spread nothing but a pure conspiracy theory for three straight years, and they never retracted, they never apologize, they never corrected the record.
Yeah, I mean, they're obviously it's not just the impeachment and or Biden corruption, or any of these number numbers, wild goose chases of the media covered ad nauseum, Russia being the chief example, um, where you know that might have been the difference in the election too.
And what if they hadn't spent, you know, four years saying that Trump was treasonously colluding with Russia?
Um, would that have swung 40,000 votes?
I mean, we could just go down the line here, but yes, um, it is truly alarming, I think, the way that the media have decided to basically, you know, cheerlead and you know, compete for Democrats essentially.
Well said.
All right, Mark Hemingway, senior writer, real clear investigations.
Uh, thank you, sir, for being with us.
We appreciate your insight.
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And uh glad you're with us.
We'll get to your calls, 800-941 Sean.
You want to be a part of the program.
You know, I love taking little trips down memory lane to listen to Democrats and their rank hypocrisy, the double standard.
You know, let's take a little trip down memory lane.
Democrats defending Bill Clinton during impeachment.
Listen.
They are driven by hatred.
They hate Bill and Hillary Clinton so much they will stop at nothing to bring him down.
Because we are here as we are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton.
And until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer.
And one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they are doing is that they are ripping from us, they are ripping asunder our votes.
They are telling us that our votes don't count.
This is their president.
We are talking about.
And we in Congress had better be very careful before we upset their decision.
And make darn sure that our decision to impeach him was based upon principle and not politics.
My fear is that when a Republican wins the White House, Democrats will demand payback.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
Let's say hi to let's see.
Iwa is in Florida.
Iwa, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks, Sean.
Um, Sean, I just wanted to ask you a couple questions real quick.
Number one, why is our taxpayer dollars going to try to impeach somebody who's not even in office?
That's number one.
Number two, that money could be used for the people and their constituents, and they're wasting all this time and all the circus, and they're not helping the people.
I mean, what is this?
Really?
They should pay the people back for the four years of sham impeachment and pay the people back for what they're trying to do right now.
This is coming out of our taxpayer dollars, and it really upsets me.
It should upset you because you listen, look at all the people that got pink slips thanks to Joe Biden.
The 50 some odd now executive orders.
Uh, this is not the people's business that's going on here.
You know, this this is this is irrational psychotic rage, just outright hatred.
You know, the danger to the Constitution, the whole snap impeachment, why they would ever validate, legitimize what the House did is unbelievable to me.
And because it's not a legitimate process.
They race through it in record time.
Well, anyway, I I share, I share your feelings.
Yeah.
I just want to say one more thing before I get before I go on.
I know you're a busy man.
But listen, Trump said, I'm gonna do these things if you elect me.
He has checked off almost every box except draining the deep filled swamp.
What has what has the Democrats done?
Where's their checklist?
What have they checked off that they've done for the people, for America, for our freedom?
Nothing except suppress them.
Listen, you you're right.
Every American should be angered at all of this.
You know, that's why I keep saying, and people are like, what do you mean you want it to go on for a long?
Let it go as long as they want it to go.
Let them impeach every day.
Let's go for 99 more by the time they're done with this one.
Because every day they do it, that's less damage that they're doing to the American economy.
Now they should be doing things like COVID vaccine distribution, uh, helping small businesses that have been struggling, shut down draconian uh shutdown measures that have been in place.
They should be worried about oh, those oil workers, the pipeline workers.
No, they're they'd rather listen to Leonardo DiCaprio.
Uh, Now cut now shut down the Dakota pipeline.
Well, obviously he doesn't have to worry about it uh himself.
It's just sad.
And and anyway, thank you for the call.
And then on top of it all, then you got the mob, the media.
Now, after the snap impeachment, oh, this was all pre-planned.
Oh my goodness.
Uh oof.
Well, I guess the incitement to insurrection charge, spontaneous nature of it can't be true if it was pre-planned.
I I got a long montage here.
Just listen to the media.
You know, having to report on this being pre-planned.
I want to get to this issue of coordination and premeditation because Aline, this is really the leading edge of this investigation.
And for the first time today, we heard the U.S. attorney say that he believes the pipe bombs are connected to the riders, and that it was a diversionary tactic.
So, right at the height of this, between 1245 and 115, when President Trump is speaking, you have the first group pushing onto the Capitol complex.
The first pipe bomb is reported at the RNC headquarters here in Washington.
Then at 115, the second is reported at the DMC.
And the U.S. attorney said today he thought they were diversionary, which means they were an effort to pull first responders away from the Capitol at the very time frame that they were breaching onto the Capitol so it would further weaken security at that site.
And all of this goes to, I'm sorry it's a long answer.
It all goes to the idea of premeditation and coordination among individuals.
And now to that chilling new report that there was an FBI internal report the day before the siege, warning of a violent war at the Capitol.
Let's bring in CBS's Jeff McGays, who's been reporting all day.
Good evening, Jeff.
Nora, that FBI notice warned of war at the Capitol, but for some reason, security wasn't stepped up there to meet the challenge that that attack would pose.
And how much of it was was planned, how much of this was um strategized ahead of time.
People wandering around exercising their first amendment rights, don't bring ropes and ladders and sledgehammers to a spontaneous event.
This was a planned assault as if going after a castle.
Such rank hypocrisy.
All right, let's get back to our phones.
Robert Texas, what's up, Robert?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Glad you're in a state that has uh, well, a good decent amount of common sense and decency.
God bless Texas.
I got a question for you, Sean.
God bless Texas, I agree.
So how is it or why is it that Chief Justice Roberts is not proceeding at this kangaroo court?
That's part one.
Part two is why doesn't the judicial branch grow a spine and stop this travesty with a nine to zero vote about its constitutionality.
You know, they all took an oath to protect, defend, and follow the constitution.
And right now, they're lying to 330 million Americans.
They, you know, you raise an interesting point.
The chief justice isn't there for a reason.
Now, how would you like to have a quote impeachment trial or any trial, and the judge is already determined before the start of the trial that you're guilty as hell.
Boy, that sounds like the American way, doesn't it?
That sounds like a good old American way to me.
Unbelievable times, Robert.
Yep, God bless Texas.
Moses New Joyce.
What's up, Moses?
How are you?
I'm doing great, Sean.
Great to talk to you, my friend.
Thank you for taking my call.
Thank you.
All right.
So a couple of comments I want to make, Sean.
And it's I I've seen it especially after, like, you know, the events that's happened in the last couple of months.
But I understand even more clearly now why Trump got elected.
It's because of Republican weakness and inaction.
Decades of it.
You know, the Republicans don't have to fight back.
All they have to do is just simply respond in kind.
We've now had two unconstitutional impeachments.
We've had Adam Schiff completely destroy presidents when he comes to impeachment, release phone records of sitting members of Congress, release phone records illegally of lawyers like Rudy Giuliani and other and other private citizens.
You know, and now the hypocrisy.
You have Alcy Hastings.
They're talking about impeachment, right?
You have Al C. Hastings, Congressman from Florida, Democrat, who was a judge that was impeached for bribery, and he sits on the Democrat rules committee, is the vice chairman, but yet they want to go after you want to go after Donald Trump.
Republicans, what they need to do is attack the establishment.
You know, like obviously peacefully, of course.
Let me just make that very clear.
Listen, I've said this for years.
You're on to something here, Moses, and that is, yeah, weak Republicans.
They helped create Donald Trump.
And a lot of them still didn't learn the lesson of Trump.
Now, you might have personality differences or stylistic differences, but but you can see the passion for the people that that went out in by far record numbers to vote for him for president.
And it's rare that you get that much more in terms of voters the second time around.
And the reason simple is he made promises and he went literally every day, rolled up his sleeves and fought to keep the promises.
Now, can you argue that maybe he shouldn't have fought so much on Twitter stylistically?
You know, is there is America knew they were electing a disruptor and an iconoclast.
And frankly, it's probably the cleaning out that the swamp needed.
But with that said, do I see Republicans in the House and Senate as willing to fight as he is?
No, I don't I some.
I do see some.
I don't see enough.
Yep.
And that is the problem.
You know, and let me tell you something, Sean.
You know, I'm a former Marine.
And it's just like you said You're never a former Marine, Semper Fy.
I've never, and here's the thing.
I don't approve of all of the uh the former president's uh you know style, his approach.
But guess what?
If I was overseas in Iraq, right, and our embassy, which it was attacked, was attacked, I would rather have President Trump as the commander in chief than any other past president, because he responded within hours with an entire battalion of Marines and several helicopters to make sure that there was never going to be another Benghazi.
And at the end of the day, it's results that matter, not style.
Who do you think?
If you had the guess, we have a hostile actor, uh Vladimir Putin, hostile regime Russia, you have hostile Iranian mules, you have uh hostile regime China, President Chi.
Who do you think and and they're paying very close attention to America?
They're spying on all of us in all likelihood.
Who do you think they fear more?
Fear.
Trump or Biden.
And who do you think they think is uh uh uh of the two, which would they view as a pushover?
That's not even a question.
You know, they fear Trump more, and they're even bragging about it.
What is it?
Last month, you know, your network reported.
You have Chinese academics right now, and the video got taken down a couple hours later, bragging about the deals that they already put in with Hunter Biden.
You know, so whether Joe Biden knows it or not, you know, maybe he forgot, like legitimately, he probably forgot, but he is compromised, you know, and but you have to give it a score.
If you have to give it a rating, Joe Biden is far he's done far worse than far done far worse than can be proven than anything that Donald Trump has ever been accused of.
That's not proven.
All right, appreciate the call.
Thank you very much, Moses.
Leo in Massachusetts.
Leo, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Sean, thank you very much for taking my call, and thanks for being the patriot you are and truth teller.
I think I offer a pretty unique uh perspective, and for brevity's sake, I'll get right to it.
Um my heart breaks for this country.
I served uh 40 years with this government, 22 active duty combat vet, uh 18 with civil service and I think.
Thank you, by the way.
Thank you, thank you for all you've done.
No, uh it it was my pleasure to serve, but I will tell you, my brothers and sisters right now, we feel like we're being sold out.
When did the word patriotism become a dirty word?
When did freedom uh become some kind of uh invasion technique as as described by the left?
When did the when did the woke media uh come all together with this unholy alliance?
Dorsey, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Pachai, the whole system to to I mean, what I feel is going on is that they're trying to degrade and destroy the will of the American people.
And let's face it, we're not represented by our representatives anymore in Congress.
They're too worried about their next seats.
You know, the very insurrectionists in this country are sitting members of Congress right now.
There's a real insurrectionist.
Look at this farce that's going on.
My heart bleeds.
My heart breaks.
My brothers and sisters who I'm still in contact with and the ones I've lost overseas on many, many deployments for this country.
We all feel the same.
We we feel like you know we've forsaken ourselves for a country that doesn't appreciate us, for a government that doesn't support us, and for a Congress and administrative branch that's selling out this country and selling out the very ideal that I and every one of my brothers and sisters stand for.
And we all bleed the same.
When you see a man's legs ripped off or eyes jammed out or a head explode in the blood there's no race overseas.
There's no race overseas when you're sitting next to a guy defecating in his pants because he's so afraid of what the hell's going on the next roadside bomb that's going off.
That's what I want our members of Congress to understand.
The millions of us who heart whose hearts are breaking we're torn I can tell you this you speak for a lot of people what pe what I see saddens me as well and I worry about our children and our grandchildren.
I don't like the road we're going down it's not gonna end well I hope I'm wrong.
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
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