Sean is joined by Stephen A Smith, host of Stephen A’s World on ESPN, which launched on January 11th, and he also hosts First Take, also on ESPN. Today he talks about the Super Bowl and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win. Sean breaks down the game and catches up on the other news of the day.The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
I'm Carol Markowitz and I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday, normally, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down with Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, glad you're with us.
Post Super Bowl Sunday hangover for everybody.
I don't mean hangover, hangover, hangover.
Linda, you don't have a hangover, do you?
But now, this was your first.
This is great because Stephen A. Smith is coming on today, my buddy.
And Stephen A., oh man, he was brutal to poor Patrick Mahomes.
And he says, no more talk about Mahomes being the GOAT.
By the way, the term GOAT, for those of you that aren't sports nuts, do you know what GOAT means by any chance?
Quiz, Linda?
I certainly do.
But I have to give credit where credit's due.
I know what it is because of Jim Gray.
No, Jim Gray, I didn't hear it, but he had an exclusive interview with Biden.
I haven't heard it yet.
Did you get a chance to hear it?
No, I don't listen to anything with him in it.
No, I love Jim Gray, though.
Jim Nance is great too.
Jim Nance is, he's such a great.
These guys are such great sports broadcasters.
Joe Buck, all these guys, and even the Boomer's great.
What's the guy's name?
He used to be quarterback for the, I love Tony Dungy.
I love all these guys.
Troy Aikman has done a great job transitioning to broadcasting.
It's not an easy transition.
And there have been people that I've known over the years that have been in sports and asked me about broadcasting.
And I'm like, okay, let's talk about it.
And I'm just like, okay, that's not going to work.
You know a few of the names of the people.
And I'm not trying to shatter dreams.
I like people to fulfill their dreams, whatever they happen to be in life.
But, you know, with all that said, all right, how did you do?
Because last week was like a crash course week in football for you on this program.
And you started out the week not knowing fully and completely how to get a touchdown, what a field goal was, what you called those two pole things in the middle as you referred to them, meaning uprights.
You didn't know what crossing the plane was.
How did you do based on the crash course we gave you going into the Super Bowl, knowing your five-year-old son wanted to watch the Super Bowl?
I mean, I think I was like a lot of people.
You know, I was excited, you know, to see it.
And, you know, I was looking for him to see the good sportsmanlike behavior that we did see for the most part.
I really don't understand a lot of what's happening still.
But what I've been told is that the way that the game was was actually very unusual because supposedly during the Super Bowl now, they don't have all of these calls, these constant penalty calls, and that they were excessive, I'm told.
And since, you know, COVID restrictions, you know, the Chiefs got in late.
Andy Reid obviously had family drama.
And then you got, you know, the Buccaneers playing on home court in Tampa Bay.
So I think there were some disadvantages to the Chiefs.
I thought you said the Colts.
I said home court.
Home court.
Okay, Colt, what Colts, you know, anyways, the Chiefs.
Right.
Okay.
No, but you know, I hope the country, because going into this week, and we're going to hit this this week on this whole impeachment sham shift show.
Democrats are more nervous than Republicans here.
And I'll get to that in a minute here.
But did you enjoy the game?
Did you enjoy for you?
It was probably a different experience because you're trying to figure out: all right, how do I get a first down?
How do we just get that touchdown?
Wow, you can get a passing touchdown, which you didn't seem to know last week.
You run the ball into the into the end zone.
And then I had to explain how you could also throw the ball and somebody catches the ball in the end zone, but you got to be on the same team.
Did you enjoy?
Do you feel like you walk away now with a sufficient knowledge that next year you can watch football and appreciate it more?
Yeah, I would still have to be very honest and say that I know very little of what's going on.
I don't really understand it.
I'm trying my best.
You know, I'm excited when I watch it.
Liam, I think, understands it way better than I do.
And, you know, we just had a blast watching it.
I think the thing I liked the most about it is Brady is just such a team player.
He really is.
I mean, the guy just corrals his team.
He's so gracious.
I mean, even when he was up there giving his Super Bowl, you know, acceptance, he had his kids up there and he passes the Super Bowl trophy down to his, you know, fellow teammates.
He's just such a nice guy.
It was a nice thing to watch.
Yeah, it's, you know what?
It was great.
I thought that was the storyline the whole time.
It ended up being the storyline.
I'll get into this with Stephen later when he said, no more talk about Mahomes being the goat.
He's getting blown out.
Mahomes is great.
He is great.
And I think that's the problem we have right now.
Why can't they both be great?
Well, look, he didn't have his best game, but think about this.
This is a guy that never lost the game by double digits in the pros.
I mean, this is a guy that helped drive his team to the Super Bowl two years in a row, and he won it last year.
The guy, Mahomes has all of the potential, and I pray to God he can stay healthy, which is a challenge for anybody playing in the NFL.
It's a warrior sport, it's a gladiator sport.
It's physically probably the most demanding on top of the octagon.
I mean, you put your heart, your soul, your life's blood into this, and the average career is three and a half years.
So I'm watching, I just, he has he's already a franchise quarterback.
He's already wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
The average football career is three and a half years.
Yeah.
You didn't know that?
No.
So how long has Tom Brady been doing it?
This is like his 20th year.
That's the whole story of Brady.
So he's an anomalous.
All right.
Nobody lasts that long.
You know, and somebody wrote me yesterday, yeah, but he's never really been hit.
I'm like, yes, he's had.
He's got he lost a year of his career to a knee injury.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, Joe Namath could, God only knows how many records Joe Namath would have broken had he not had bad knees.
And the body begins to break down for these guys.
And it's, and you think of linemen and knows that, you know, linebackers and the tackling and the hits.
I mean, I mean, this is all real.
Now, the NFL's also dealt with this whole concussion issue.
I know they're doing everything, they're doing everything they can, but you can't ruin the sport in the process.
And they have the concussion protocols now in place.
There's only so many concussions that your brain can take before I can tell you, let's put it this way.
Tell you anybody that I've ever watched as a UFC fan that gets knocked out, they never, they are usually never, ever the same, ever, in terms of their ability to go back in the octagon.
It seems to me my observation that they get knocked out faster the next time because it's there's a vulnerability that is created from the first time you have the head trauma.
I mean, that's like being in a bad car accident.
I remember before my days playing ice hockey that I mean, I had my bell rung all the time.
That's what they mean when you get your bell rung.
Have you ever heard that phrase before?
I heard.
I have.
I haven't heard.
You remember this song from the 70s?
You probably sang it at weddings.
Yeah, that's the one I have.
It's not the same thing.
Yeah, it's three o'clock.
We can't talk about this.
All right, 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, so we're going to have the impeachment sham this week.
With this happening and this emerging, the best thing I've read about this now is that we're now seeing that the defense that will be put on by the president's team, oh, there are two great things.
This is one of them, is going to challenge the definition of the mob, the media, and Democrats on insurrectionist language.
And by that, we mean Maxine Waters and the Maxine Waters of the world.
I got a kick out of Maxine Waters is now trying to walk back her violent rhetoric against Trump.
I'll remind you, I'm going to take Trump out tonight.
I want you to create a crowd.
I want you to get in their faces.
I want you to, you follow them into the grocery store and they're not wanted anywhere anymore.
What does it mean create a crowd and get in their faces and follow them and tell them they're not wanted anywhere anymore?
Listen.
You have members of your cabinet that have been booed out of restaurants who have protesters taking up at their house.
Who sang their face, no sleep?
And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
And you push back on them.
And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
Wow.
What a moving evening this is.
I am sitting here listening, watching, absorbing, thinking about Ali, even though I never met him.
And with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight.
I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.
Okay, and then I won't play them all, but I could play, of course, after the burning down of the police precinct at Minneapolis, the rioting that took place there.
You know, I won't say, well, people died at the Capitol.
Now, that's part two of this, because now we have growing evidence that is growing by the day.
Let's play some of the media finally catching up to us and recognizing that the police, investigators, and everybody else, oh, a lot of this seems to have been coordinated and pre-planned.
Oh, and oh, if it was in the works and it was going to happen, how did Donald Trump's words of, many of you will peacefully and patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard?
when in fact it was all pre-planned.
Listen to the media coverage.
One of the big questions for investigators has been whether or not whether the people who attacked the Capitol, whether this was just a mob that just got out of control or whether there was planning.
And we're learning from people we're talking to familiar with the investigation that they're getting indications, some evidence that they've seen that indicates that there was some level of planning.
They've noticed from looking at surveillance cameras, from looking at some of the weaponry that showed up, that there were people who were at the ellipse where there was a Trump rally earlier in the day.
Some people left the scene of that rally early and appeared to have gone to retrieve weapons that then turned up at the scene of the riot at the Capitol.
Based on everything the FBI has learned, it was not some sort of spontaneous decision by a bunch of, quote, protesters to go up to Capitol Hill and storm Capitol Hill.
This was all planned out.
I want to get to this issue of coordination and premeditation because Elaine, this is really the leading edge of this investigation.
And for the first time today, we heard the U.S. attorney say that he believes the pipe bombs are connected to the rioters and that it was a diversionary tactic.
So right at the height of this, between 1245 and 1.15, when President Trump is speaking, you have the first group pushing onto the Capitol complex.
The first pipe bomb is reported at the RNC headquarters here in Washington.
Then at 1.15, the second is reported at the DNC.
And the U.S. attorney said today he thought they were diversionary, which means they were an effort to pull first responders away from the Capitol at the very time frame that they were breaching onto the Capitol so it would further weaken security at that site.
And all of this goes to, I'm sorry, it's a long answer.
It all goes to the idea of premeditation and coordination among individuals.
And now to that chilling new report that there was an FBI internal report the day before the siege warning of a violent war at the Capitol.
New reporting that the FBI received a very specific warning before the riot.
Let's bring in CBS's Jeff McGays, who's been reporting all day.
Good evening, Jeff.
Dora, that FBI notice warned of war at the Capitol, but for some reason, security wasn't stepped up there to meet the challenge that that attack would pose.
And how much of it was planned?
How much of this was strategized ahead of time?
These people wandering around exercising their First Amendment rights don't bring ropes and ladders and sledgehammers to a spontaneous event.
This was a planned assault as if going after a castle.
Yeah, if it's premeditated and coordinated and a planned assault and diversionary tactics, bombs set here and there, all part of the effort.
Well, how does that result in a spontaneous incitement to riot?
They couldn't possibly.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So download, verdict with Ted Cruz Now, wherever you get your podcasts.
Add up.
So you have investigators and Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez saying, oh, I knew a week in advance.
And now the media reporting that, yeah, oh, this was a diversionary planting of bombs as part of an overall coordinated attack that was predetermined, pre-planned, and diversionary tactics put in place.
And then you have the warnings that law enforcement had and whatever other intelligence they had growing.
Plus on top of it as a natural course of business, why did you not have, knowing hundreds of thousands of people were already in town the day before, why weren't there, why weren't, why wasn't there any, you know, sergeant at arms, Capitol Police?
Why did they deny the chief of the Capitol Police who asked on six separate occasions even before this happened?
You know, what happened here?
This is getting weirder and weirder by the minute.
All right, I got to take a break here, but we got a lot coming up on the other side of this.
800-941 Sean on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Just buckle up.
It's going to be a week, but it appears like the Democrats have their own issues to deal with.
Premeditation, all coordinated, and their own comments and their definition of, quote, insurrection and incitement.
Yeah, they've got a lot of questions they need to answer.
Quick break.
We'll come back on the other side.
800-941 Sean, you want to be a part of the program and we will continue.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So download, verdict with Ted Cruz Now, wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
So when you put it all together and you look at, well, what do the Democrats want to get done here?
Well, now this is where they're getting nervous.
Because Democrats now have a choice because they're going to bring in their tapes.
They're going to say, Donald Trump said fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
Well, we've been playing for you all the examples of prominent Democrats saying fight, fight, fight, fight, fight.
The Democrats want to, they will ignore Donald Trump's statement, peacefully, patriotically march to the Capitol so your voices will be heard.
Okay, well, I didn't hear that in Maxine Waters' I'm going to take Trump out tonight speech, or Kamala Harris's speech after the precinct was burned to the ground in Minneapolis and the riots ensued, and yeah, police officers injured, and then, of course, you know, advertising, trying to raise money to help the bail fund to pull the rioters out of jail, to get them out of jail.
I just don't recall in any way anybody in the media saying, yeah, that was pretty irresponsible.
They're not going to stop.
You need to take note.
Beware.
They're not going to stop.
I'm not going to stop.
They shouldn't stop.
We shouldn't stop.
What is he talking about in the context of what just happened in Minneapolis and was emerging in other cities around the country?
Or the threat to Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
You won't know what hit you on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court.
Or Pelosi's support of insurrection when the Wisconsin statehouse was raided back in the day then, offering support.
And then you can move beyond those players.
And you can talk about pretty much a lot of Democrats.
When they're down, we kick them.
They go high.
We go.
No, they're down.
We kick them.
Eric Holder.
It's just so obvious what this is.
And so the Democrats now will make a choice.
If they want this thing to drag on and to distract from Joe Biden's agenda, let Joe Biden, Mr. Unity, either step up and tell his party that we already know what the outcome is going to be, or if I was the Republicans, I would embrace, I'd absolutely embrace as long as they want this to go on.
And as long as they want to drag the country through this, as long as they want all other of the people's business to stall completely, let them do it.
Because everybody sees this for what it is.
Donald Trump is not in office.
Donald Trump is, well, as Acosta says, he's President Trump in exile.
Fine.
He's not even talking because he's been deplatformed and canceled all over social media.
Will he reemerge?
I would say the odds are pretty good.
A lot of stories out there that he might start his own social media company to bypass the Twitters and the Facebooks and the Instagrams and the big tech companies, which is fine with me.
But, you know, and then the fearmongery continues.
All right, they want to spend all of this money.
And I guess if Congress is wrapped up in their latest impeachment shift show, impeaching a guy that they don't even have jurisdiction over, well, we've got 150 legal constitutional leftist liberal radical attorneys.
Okay, you can get 300 constitutionalists, and they'll sign their letter saying that it's not constitutional.
But impeachment articles are very clear to remove from office.
What is this all about?
Well, that'll get in the way of you have the UN climate envoy, Mark Carney, saying climate crisis deaths will be worse than COVID.
They'll be the equivalent of coronavirus and a coronavirus crisis every year.
Wow.
He was the Bank of England governor up until last year and head of the Bank of Canada before that, now United Nations Envoy for Climate Action and Finance.
You have Massachusetts, you have their climate officials.
60% of emissions, they come from people driving their cars and heating their homes.
We will have to break their will.
Let me say it again: 60% of our emissions that need to be reduced come from you, the person across the street, the senior on fixed income, right?
There is no bad guy left, at least in Massachusetts, to the point to point the finger at, to turn the screws on, and to break their will.
So they stop admitting.
That's you.
We have to break your will.
And right, I can't even say that publicly.
Whoopsie-daisy, it broke.
They said it.
And then you have AOC and Bernie introducing a bill to declare a national climate emergency.
Now, is it really about climate?
No, because we've learned that the real purpose behind all of the Green New Deal initiative is to advance socialism in the name of climate change.
So what is the net impact?
We're already feeling it.
All those workers on the Keystone XL pipeline, they've gotten their pink slips already.
And Joe Biden last week saying, yeah, they're going to end all pipelines.
Okay, more pink slips coming.
And Joe Biden last week is stopping the oil exploration and extraction in Anwar.
Okay, there's nothing there but a vast wilderness.
How do I know?
Because we actually at times have sent photographers and planes to take video of the Anwar, the geography of Anwar, and there's nothing there, a wilderness.
When they built Alaskan pipelines in the past, and all the predictions that, well, it's going to destroy wildlife, what did they discover?
The wildlife actually like habitating around the pipeline because it keeps them warm for some reason.
Hmm.
And it increased the number of the herds that were there.
That was past information.
But if you have a climate emergency and you declare a climate emergency, well, then that gives you even broader powers with the stroke of a pen to continue what Joe Biden is doing, bypassing an entire branch of government, the legislative branch, just to, with a stroke of a pen, enact your agenda that you'd never get passed through any Congress.
I mean, it's pretty, these are insane times that we're living in.
Add to that, well, what are they trying to do to conservatives in the media?
The left is aiming to rein in media diversity, determine what is appropriate speech, restricting the reach.
You know, this has been the ongoing battle against talk radio for all these years, and to a smaller extent, now becoming a bigger extent, a few of the voices they don't like on Fox News.
It's not every voice on Fox News they don't like.
It's just conservative voices on Fox News that they hate.
You've got, you know, media commentators, the progressive left.
You even have people on fake news CNN.
I mean, the people that literally were at the tip of the spear of spreading the Russia hoax lies and conspiracy theories, wanting to restrict platform access and so on and so forth.
Another way of saying silencing opposition voices.
Casio-Cortez suggested just last month that multiple House members, including herself, were considering plans to regulate media in some as yet undefined fashion following the end of the Trump administration.
She was asked during an Instagram QA session last month about the potential for media literacy initiatives in Congress and responded, I don't think that the response has fully crystallized yet.
But what I can say is there's absolutely a commission being discussed, referring to proposals, you know, investigatory in nature at this point.
I do think that several members of Congress and some of my discussions have brought up media literacy because that is part of what happened here.
We're going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment.
So you can't just spew disinformation or misinformation.
You mean like the Russia hoax?
She must be talking about the Russia hoax, right?
No, I doubt you go that far.
You know, harm reduction, CNN is talking about.
A model in which the media reach would be greatly diminished of voices they don't like.
Who is going to determine what political commentary is appropriate and what commentary is not appropriate?
Again, the irony, the very people that spread lies and conspiracy theories for three years.
It's also happening, not just fake news, CNN.
It's about freedom of reach, CNN is saying.
The New York Times, Nicholas Kristoff, putting forth a similar argument, suggesting an effort to combat, quote, extremism and advertisers need to stop supporting networks that spread lies and hatred.
You mean like the New York Times?
Who says it's not safe to travel to China after the travel ban?
Not exactly their finest moment.
Washington Post, they got their media columnists and editors, Margaret Sullivan, calling for an advertiser boycott of news organizations she doesn't like.
These corporations should walk away, and citizens who care about the truth should demand that they do so.
Well, what does that do?
That's just another roundabout way of silencing voices they don't like and they don't want heard.
You know, a study touted as a blow to conservatives, complaints about big tech censorship funded by a major Biden donor.
Researchers at NYU, apparently, according to the Daily Caller, in a study, said the conservatives have pushed disinformation by accusing big tech firms of an anti-conservative bias.
Study finded by one group, some billionaire contributed $100,000 to Biden, and the study called decisions by Twitter and Facebook to censor the New York Post story on Hunter Biden to be a reasonable decision.
Well, we now know based on the guy that was the laptop repairman, and we know from this guy, Bob Olinski, and we've been learning from Peter Schweitzer, who's had many things on that laptop confirmed, that they're all true.
Study makes the unsubstantiated claim the story was based on stolen materials.
Not exactly true there either.
Anyway, researchers are urging Biden to create a digital regulatory agency.
This is how insane this is now getting.
Donald Trump, apparently, this is a Breitbart article.
Jason Miller revealing Saturday the former president is considering Donald Trump launching his own social media platform in the not-too-distant future.
That may not be a bad idea.
These, and, you know, these are chilling, chilling times.
Labor union chief who backed Biden is now complaining that he killed the Keystone pipeline.
Apparently, AFL CIO chief Richard Trumka expects his membership to believe that he had absolutely no idea that Joe was going to cancel the pipeline.
He said, I wish he hadn't done that on the first day.
What do you want it done on day 10?
I wish he had he had paired that more carefully with the thing that he did the second by saying, here's where we're creating jobs.
Well, what do they do, Mr. Trump, in the meantime?
And how do you take the specific skill set associated with building a pipeline and transfer that to any other industry?
You might want to tell the rank and file that pay your salary how that's going to happen.
Unbelievable.
Newly elected House Democrat openly defended a jailhouse riot after condemning the Capitol riot.
You got this story is in the New York Post today.
You got a House Democrat, Corey Bush, condemn the January 6th insurrection, their favorite word.
But he's defending the rioters in St. Louis who tried to burn down the city jail.
Wow.
Said a riot is the language of the unheard, he said.
I want to talk to my constituents in the window.
Their lives and their rights must be protected.
My team and I are working to ensure that the urgent needs of the people who are incarcerated are not ignored.
Doesn't exactly sound like a full and complete condemnation.
Unbelievable.
By the way, illegal aliens who are assaulted, this is in the Washington Free Beacon.
Americans will no longer be deported under Biden's new rules.
Welcome to the New World Order of Joe Biden.
Generally, these convictions would not include drug-based crimes, simple assault.
Is assault really simple?
DUI, money laundering, property crimes, fraud, tax crimes, solicitation, or charges without convictions.
Well, ICE would not deport, according to Jen Saki, the White House press secretary, illegal immigrants guilty of assault and DUI under the plan.
Wow.
What happens to you and your family if, in fact, you do that?
Pretty unbelievable.
Peter Ducey pressed Jen Saki on where are the laid-off pipeline workers going to get their green jobs.
She says, well, the president's proposed a climate plan with transformative investments and infrastructure and laid out a plan that would not only create millions of good union jobs, but also help tackle the climate crisis.
Docey shot back, but there are people living paycheck to paycheck, people out of jobs once the Keystone pipeline stopped construction.
It's been 12 days since Gina McCarthy and John Kerry were here.
It's 19 days since the executive order.
So what are these people who need money now?
What do they do to get their green jobs?
How many days are you going to have to work?
Man, it's going to be a lot of work these coming years.
Got a lot to cover.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional fast.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down with Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, Super Bowl Sunday, four hours, four and a half hours, maybe even five hours of omnipotent, political-free fun, although you weren't allowed if you followed CDC regulations.
No shouting.
And no groups, according to Dr. Fauci.
But Stephen A. Smith was watching the game.
You know, I know you were watching the game because you cannot control yourself.
It's over, everyone.
At Chiefs Defense couldn't stop anything.
At Tom Brady threw it to him and at Buccaneers defense was elite.
No more talk about Patrick Mahomes being the GOAT.
Greatest of all time.
He's now getting blown out in the Super Bowl.
Receivers can't get open and he can't throw them open.
It's over.
It's not over.
He's a franchise quarterback.
Well, as usual, I have to educate you about Tante.
Don't use my lines I use against you.
Go ahead.
I do believe that I put that tweet out in the third quarter of the game.
It's not like I said it now.
I mean, I was talking about the game itself.
It's over.
Of course, Patrick Mahomes will be back in the Super Bowl because he'll win some Super Bowl championships.
He's a phenomenal, great quarterback.
But when you talk about him being the greatest quarterback of all time, Tom Brady at the age of 43 just won his seventh Super Bowl.
There is no franchise, a franchise, there is no franchise in the history of the National Football League that has seven championships, and Tom Brady has seven.
There's nothing to talk about in that regard.
Patrick Mahomes is a young player.
He's been to not many people in their football careers, and you know this better than anybody, gets to one Super Bowl.
He's been to back-to-back Super Bowls.
He's experienced the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, not to use the cliché of wide world of sports.
He is a franchise quarterback.
He's in the top elite in my mind.
Who are the elite quarterbacks?
Okay, he got a lot of people.
Well, the elite quarterbacks are him.
They're Aaron Rodgers.
There's Drew Brees.
Deshaun Watson.
Obviously, Josh Allen.
This kid in Buffalo is special.
He's got promise.
Lamar Jackson in Baltimore.
He's got a lot of promise.
Russell Wilson in Seattle, obviously.
Phenomenal quarterback.
He's a phenomenal quarterback.
So there are several, but again, the conversation is about the GOAT, the greatest of all time.
And even though it was Brady with his resume, because he's the most celebrated quarterback in NFL history, there were a lot of people that were saying, no, it's Patrick Mahomes.
And if Patrick Mahomes had beaten him, even though he'd still only have two and Brady would have had six, the bottom line is with Patrick Mahomes being 25 years of age.
If he had knocked off Brady, then you would have assumed that, you know what, more Super Bowls are coming, plus he'd have a win over Brady on his resume.
Think about this, too, though, Stephen A.
The leadup to Super Bowl Sunday was, okay, he had to take on the Saints and Drew Brees.
He had to take on the Packers and Aaron Rodgers.
Now he had to take on, I think, probably the hottest quarterback now in the NFL, and that's Patrick Mahomes.
That, to me, was the storyline.
I don't care what anybody says going in.
You had Two great tight ends on both teams.
But at the end of the day, I mean, I thought Brady just is common.
He had ice in his veins.
And, you know, in fairness to Mahomes, he didn't really have a lot of open players to throw to most of the game.
Well, he didn't have much help.
Tampa Bay's defense was elite.
The real MVP with the initials TV is Todd Bowles, the former head coach for the New York Jets, not a defensive Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
His defense was sensational and led by Shaq Barrett and Devin White and Antonio Whitfield Jr.
and JPP, a former New York Giant.
By the way, how great's the story of JPP?
If people don't know, Pierre Paul is that he had half his fingers blown off in a fireworks accident playing on the 4th of July in a fireworks accident.
Absolutely.
He's still an elite player.
He's still amazing.
He had a great game yesterday.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
Tampa Bay basically instituted what the Giants did to beat Brady twice.
They didn't blitz.
They only blitzed like five times during the game.
They were incredibly confident that their front four would be able to get to Brady as a result, leaving seven dudes in your secondary.
So the Tyreek Hills and the Travis Kelseys of the world and others couldn't get open.
And that proved to be fatal for Patrick Mahomes and those boys because, you know, he was already operating on a bad foot, but he had no help because Tyree Hill didn't show up yesterday.
Travis Kelsey could do only but so much.
McColl Hartman was a no-show.
They didn't even try a running game.
And then you got to take into account the distractions of Andy Reed.
He's the head coach of the Tampa Bay, the Kansas City Chiefs.
His son was in a car driving, had two drinks, acknowledged he had two drinks and some Adderall.
And next thing you know, he gets into a car accident.
A four-year-old and a five-year-old are injured.
The five-year-old is in critical condition as we speak, and he's being investigated for driving under the influence.
So all of that was coming into Super Bowl week with Tampa Bay already being at home, but Kansas City having to travel to the game.
And because of everything that had transpired, Kansas City didn't travel until the day before the Super Bowl, which was Saturday.
Okay, so this has happened twice in my memory, and you know more than I do about this topic, so I'll throw it to you.
But when Peyton Manning left the Colts and went to the Broncos and he wins the Super Bowl, that was huge.
Now you have Tom Brady leaves New England and he goes to Tampa Bay and he wins a Super Bowl.
And I understand.
I think an argument can be made.
Okay, Belichick and Robert Kraft probably made a decision.
Well, it clears out a lot of salary cap, which, by the way, I'm not a big fan of salary caps.
You know that.
I'm a capitalist.
Okay, put that aside.
Put it in its own separate category.
But you can't convince me that Brady, because he's done it in the past, wouldn't have been willing to give back some money for players to have a stronger, better team, because that's the kind of competitor he is to stay on the Patriots.
And yet, you know, if I'm Belichick and I'm Robert Kraft and I know Robert Kraft, I like him a lot.
He's a great guy.
I don't know Belichick.
I know him well.
Okay, so I'm thinking if you're Belichick and you're Robert Kraft and you're watching Brady and you're watching Gronkowski had a great game also, what are you thinking yesterday?
Well, first of all, it wasn't a good night for Bill Belichick, and it's not going to be a good year, at least a good few months with Bill Belichick.
If you're Robert Kraft, you're sick to your stomach because you never wanted to lose Brady.
It's just that Bill Belichick is your head coach and your GM.
And Robert Kraft, I mean, I don't know whether he'd admit it or not or whether various people within the organization would admit it or not, but it clearly was not about the money.
If Brady had wanted to stay, they would have found a way to work it out.
Robert Kraft would have seen to it.
What happened is Brady went to Robbie Kraft and said, listen, I'm a free agent, and I just came.
He drove over to his house.
He said, I just came to tell you goodbye.
He wanted out.
He didn't want to be there any longer.
He thought it was time for him to move on, himself to move on.
And one of the behind-the-scenes story, though, don't you agree with me?
I'm giving it to you.
I'm giving you.
Okay, I'm trying to hear it.
He went to Kraft to say goodbye because one of the biggest reasons is that Bill Belichick really didn't make him feel wanted any longer.
And he got tired of feeling that way.
And so he wanted to go someplace else and prove that he can do what he did, that he was incredibly valuable to the success of the New England Patriots, and he could still be that guy, where Bill Belichick obviously wanted to move in a different direction.
Sort of like kissing the ring, per se.
Bill Belichick was like, listen, I've got six as a head coach of my own.
I've got two as a defensive coordinator.
And I've been to 11 Super Bowls overall, and I've got eight rings.
I don't have to kiss anybody's rings.
I've got enough of my own.
And so as a result, Tom Brady wanted to go someplace else and show what he can do, which is why he left and he departed.
And Bill Belichick, the coach is not to be questioned, but Bill Belichick, the GM, that had teammates like Nikhil Harry as a wide receiver instead of DK Metcalf or A.J. Brown, two stud receivers in the NFL, stuff like that.
Jacoby Brissette is gone and he's a backup in Indianapolis, but he could have easily been a better selection than Cam Newton based on how Cam Newton looked this year.
All of those things played a role.
And Tom Brady saying, you know what?
I just want to move on and I just want to move on with my career because I still think I've got something left in me in Tampa Bay and the Chargers were the two teams who believed in Tom Brady.
He chose Tampa.
The other 30 teams thought they had a better option than Tom Brady.
So Bill Belichick isn't the only one feeling sick right now.
It's the rest of them.
Yeah.
I mean, he just defies all the odds here, though.
I mean, on paper, you can make the case he's 43 years old.
I mean, that's a long time.
Let me ask you about the intersection.
I used to have, you know, and I don't want to talk about politics at all.
I just think that this year was important because I think between the pandemic and between unrest that went on all summer, between what happened at the Capitol, between a rough election, I just think the country needed this day, this moment of time, to bring us back to sports where it doesn't matter what your politics are.
And I want sports.
It's a more general question, not a political question.
I want sports to be political free.
You know, Dr. Roz said during the coronavirus, whenever medicine and politics intersect, well, politics always wins.
I don't want that to be the same for sports.
I don't tune into sports to hear political opinions.
I do this for a living.
Well, let's put it on blast.
Let's put it on front street.
Sean Hanny and I, Sean Henny and I don't just talk when we're on the air together.
We actually talk off the air.
So let's be clear about that.
Full disclosure.
I never thought you'd admit that publicly, though.
Okay.
No, no, no.
I'm my own man.
I ain't scared to admit that.
I think you're crazy half the time, but you know what?
I talk to you all the time.
You're still my buddy.
Here's the deal.
The bottom line is this.
And I've said this to your buddy, the great one, Mark Levin, on a couple of occasions.
We can talk about stuff being political free and stuff like that.
When you get into the minutia of things and start talking policy, you have a point.
But a lot of times, that's not the case.
I take, for example, when I brought up Colin Kaepernick, when Mark Levin was complaining to me about Kaepernick, and he doesn't want to see it, he said he's messing up the game.
I said, with all due respect, Mark Levin, he knelt before the game.
It didn't interfere once kickoff arrived.
So the reality is that, you know what, you could have your taste all you want to, but you really can't accuse these folks of interfering with the actual game itself.
Because once tip-off arrival, kickoff arrives, these guys go out there and play, and there have been no actions that have taken place once the tip-off or kickoff started in these respective leagues.
And a lot of times in the United States of America, free speech and all of this other stuff, and everybody's got the right to believe what they want and feel the way that they want to feel.
This notion that, oh, my God, it's interfering with the game, that's not necessarily true.
Even the NBA players, with all of their involvement in social protests because of social unrest and things of that nature, they still went out there and performed in that bubble, gave up.
The problem is, though, when it hits the field and hits the court, then you're risking it viewed, and I think it is, as political.
And once that intersects, then you begin the process where you're alienating people's affection for the game.
I love sports for all the reasons you and I have ever talked about so many times.
It mirrors life itself.
Winning, losing, harder you work, better you do, all the things that drive me as a conservative.
Yeah, but there's something, but see, things get missed along the way.
Like, for example, I brought up Kaepernick for a reason.
Do you know why I brought up Kaepernick for a reason?
Because long before Kaepernick took a knee, you had Marshawn Lynch sitting down on a bench eating a banana during the national anthem.
No one said a word.
They didn't say a word.
But you understand how people respond to that without getting political.
You understand it.
It's like I do understand it.
But what I'm trying to say is that you know what?
I want to go to a sport.
Let's say it's basketball, and I'm watching LeBron James or I'm watching God bless God bless Kobe Bryant's soul.
I love Bird and I love Magic.
I love watching them.
Whatever the sport happens to be, I like to watch the top of the field compete.
That's it.
And for most Americans, I think they're like me yesterday.
Oh, we need a break.
Okay.
I don't want to see the intersection, nor do I want to see.
For example, all these athletes spend decades and decades getting strong and building their skills.
And then if this is taken to its ultimate conclusion and people don't go, all the money and opportunity is going to go with it.
First of all, if somebody that's cool with you, what did I tell you about asking those long-winded questions without giving me an opportunity to answer?
I'm going to get on you now.
You know, I'm not scared to get on you now.
All right, that's number one.
Number two, here's the deal.
If you can't point to somebody literally interfering with the game, then you have to ultimately go back to the fact that as an American citizen, not having your ability to enjoy the game impeded, what is your problem?
You got a situation where people are going to be turned off.
Of course that they recognize that it's a risk that they're willing to take.
They were clearly supported by the NFL and the National Basketball Association as well.
I got to run, but I'm going to tell you the last thing.
People are going to get turned off, but they still show up and play the game, and they don't interfere with the game.
And they need to be given credit for that.
Robert Kraft said, anybody on this team, this is going back a couple of years when Kaepernick first happened, anybody on this team is in any charity that's going to benefit people in our city, I'll match it dollar for dollar.
Okay.
And I would argue if off-field people, if they enlisted the fans to help their causes, it would be far more effective.
That's my final thought.
And my final point to you is that not only do these athletes do that, but many of them do.
They're great.
Many of them do that.
And more importantly, they put their own money where their mouth is.
They encourage people to do so themselves.
Got a role.
And you have to consider the communities that they come from.
And they still fight the good fight and are contributors to our society in very, very positive ways and need to be given more credit for that.
Congrats on all your success on ESPF.
All right.
Thank you, Steve and A. Hey there.
I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down with Verdict with Ted Cruz Now, wherever you get your podcasts.
We're learning from people we're talking to familiar with the investigation that they are getting indications, some evidence that they've seen that indicates that there was some level of planning.
They've noticed from looking at surveillance cameras, from looking at some of the weaponry that showed up, that there were people who were at the ellipse where there was a Trump rally earlier in the day.
Some people left the scene of that rally early and appeared to have gone to retrieve weapons that then turned up at the scene of the riot at the Capitol.
This was all planned out.
I want to get to this issue of coordination and premeditation because, Alain, this is really the leading edge of this investigation.
And for the first time today, we heard the U.S. attorney say that he believes the pipe bombs are connected to the rioters and that it was a diversionary tactic.
So right at the height of this, between 1245 and 1.15, when President Trump is speaking, you have the first group pushing onto the Capitol complex.
The first pipe bomb is reported at the RNC headquarters here in Washington.
Then at 1.15, the second is reported at the DNC.
And the U.S. attorney said today he thought they were diversionary, which means they were an effort to pull first responders away from the Capitol at the very timeframe that they were breaching onto the Capitol so it would further weaken security at that site.
And all of this goes to, I'm sorry, it's a long answer.
It all goes to the idea of premeditation and coordination among individuals.
One of the big questions for investigators has been whether or not, whether the people who attacked the Capitol, whether this was just a mob that just got out of control, or whether there was planning.
FBI notice warned of war at the Capitol, but for some reason, security wasn't stepped up there to meet the challenge that that attack would pose.
On how much of it was planned, how much of this was strategized ahead of time.
These people wandering around exercising their First Amendment rights don't bring ropes and ladders and sledgehammers to a spontaneous event.
This was a planned assault as if going after a castle.
They are driven by hatred.
They hate Bill and Hillary Clinton so much they will stop at nothing to bring him down.
Because we are here, as we are here today, because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton.
And until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer.
And one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they are doing is that they are ripping from us.
They are ripping asunder our votes.
They are telling us that our votes don't count.
There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by the other.
Bill Clinton acted deplorably in his personal behavior.
But what the American people are saying loudly and clearly is let's get on with the business.
Our democracy will be threatened if we destroy the due process and high standard that the founding fathers established over two centuries ago.
The process the majority has pursued in this manner has been partisan, driven, I believe, by animus, and exceedingly unfair.
Like so many other acts of these last two Congresses, it has been unworthy of our duty and of our responsibility.
This is their president we are talking about.
And we in Congress had better be very careful before we upset their decision and make darn sure that our decision to impeach him was based upon principle and not politics.
My fear is that when a Republican wins the White House, Democrats will demand payback.
All right, then you have a lot to absorb as now every the three big issues I've been focused on about where this impeachment shift show is going to end up going this week.
A lot of things have now unraveled.
The reason you don't have a snap impeachment with no investigation, certainly no investigation completed, because what are we learning?
We're learning about coordination.
We're learning about premeditation.
We're learning about diversions that were put in place by people that had organized and planned.
What else does it tell us?
Well, if it was organized and it was pre-planned, unless Donald Trump was responsible and a part of the planning for the attack on the Capitol, then Donald Trump's words of many of you will peacefully, patriotically march to the Capitol today to let your voices be heard.
The fact that law enforcement had numerous warnings that things were going to happen, Ocasio-Cortez was one of them.
We know intelligence services apparently had a number of others.
We know there were six separate requests by the Capitol Chief of Police to get National Guard in there before and even during what was going on, and all of which was denied.
And then, of course, you've got the double standard, and that is the words of the likes of Kamala, Joe, Nancy, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, who's denying her words were ever meant to be inflammatory in any way, which is a joke, all now converging together as their case now falls apart, as people try to walk back their comments or they try to minimize the comments they have made, insurrectionist comments based on their definition of insurrection.
Greg Jarrett, host of his new podcast, The Brief, author of two number one bestsellers, John Solomon, editor-in-chief, justthenews.com, author of the bestseller Fallout, here to discuss all of this.
John, I know you have from the news point of view, and now even the mob, the media, fake news, CNN, Washington Post, and pretty much every other outlet is recognizing court documents confirming even, that in fact a lot of pre-planning went into this.
So no words of Donald Trump could have possibly incited a spontaneous insurrection.
Yeah, you're exactly right, Sean.
If you go through the 100-plus affidavits that the FBI have filed in the charging documents of all the people who've now been charged in the Capitol riots, you learn that the planning began in November, that by late December, there was fundraising to get equipment such as telecommunications so they could talk to people in their earpieces and riot gear.
And then there were discussions of meetings and training.
And there are at least 12 affidavits that when you put the total number of bodies involved, it looks like 60 to 80 people were involved in some sort of pre-planning.
They were going to meet up.
You've got Virginia talking about meeting North Carolina people.
You've got other people saying 30, 40 of us are going together.
We all have our tactical plans.
There's talks of commanders.
This was not a spontaneously cited riot.
This goes the same path as Benghazi.
Remember, we were told Benghazi was a riot, spontaneously spurred.
It turned out to be a planned terror attack.
This attack was planned for days and weeks, and the FBI's own evidence make it irrefutable.
And yesterday, the former police chief of the Capitol Police said he saw clear evidence that this was premeditated in pre-planned because the attackers were communicating with earpieces like the Secret Service uses to protect the president.
The storyline that was force-fed us the day after this and in the week before the president was impeached is now demonstrably not true.
It's pretty amazing all of which that they have claimed is false, which it should be such a highlight.
Now, I am glad to read today that the Republicans, they're going to play at these impeachment hearings the words of the Democrats.
And let the American people now see what the show Hannity has been showing every single night and what the Sean Hannity radio show has been playing every day, Greg Jarrett.
Well, it's rank hypocrisy.
Just look at Nancy Pelosi over the last four years.
She has used incendiary, inflammatory language, accusing Trump publicly of racism, fascism, treason, sedition, bribery, causing mass deaths.
Trump's words on January 6th pale by comparison.
But your point is well taken, Sean.
You cannot incite a pre-planned event.
Incitement involves inflammatory words that direct specific actions of violence or destruction.
And of course, nowhere in the president's speech did he do such a thing.
In fact, just the opposite.
He counseled the crowd to do it peacefully and patriotically when they marched down to the Capitol.
But now, as John points out, you've got real evidence, hard evidence, that this was pre-planned.
And in fact, last Friday, federal prosecutors filed papers with a federal court saying that they have evidence that this was pre-planned well in advance.
Again, you cannot incite a pre-planned event.
So this is what happens when you rush into an impeachment without bothering to engage in even the semblance of an investigation when you rush to judgment without reviewing or even presenting evidence in the House.
They voted to impeach within a week.
They held no hearings.
They offered no right to counsel a right to cross-examine or present defense evidence.
It was a farce.
It was a sham.
And now, as a result, you get a Senate trial in which the outcome is predetermined.
And these senators are, for the most part, apathetic.
They just want to get through it as quickly as possible and vote to acquit.
You know, well, I think they do, but they haven't quite telegraphed yet exactly whether there's going to be witnesses or not.
Now, the minute they call witnesses, doesn't the trial at that point just stop?
And doesn't the defense get time to prepare to cross-examine, if you will, although this really isn't even, by any definition, anything that resembles a courtroom.
Otherwise, the impeachment wouldn't have happened in the first place in the House with no witnesses called, no time spent, no investigation undertaken, none whatsoever.
They just pushed it through in a week because they wanted to bludgeon Trump one more time.
They may play videotapes in their evidence presentation at the outset, along with arguments of people saying how traumatized they were and so forth.
Those aren't real witnesses.
They're not live witnesses.
There won't be a vote on whether to actually have live witnesses that would include cross-examination until the conclusion of the arguments and presentation of the evidence, which is mostly videotape.
And at that point, I do expect the senators to vote witnesses down.
They just don't want to go through it.
And I think it'll become clear to most senators after the presentation of the arguments that this is going nowhere except an acquittal.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Now, John Solomon, you're in touch with kind of both sides.
You got your ear to the ground in Washington.
All right.
Democrats, they want to lay out the most incendiary case they can.
Fight, fight, fight.
Well, we've played montages of Democrats saying fight, fight, fight, fight, fight for years.
You know, fight like hell.
Okay, let's go fight like hell.
Everything's at stake this election.
Targeted districts.
Remember, the lawsuit, I think, is even still pending with Sarah Palin.
Bob Beckel invented targeting districts for defeat in an election.
But it's the same standard every time.
It is.
And, you know, the Democrats will try to cherry-pick statements that some of the participants in the riot made and say this is proof that the president incited them.
These people were inspired by the president.
But the decision in the Supreme Court Brandenburg makes clear what incitement is.
And it is overwhelmingly clear that this attack was planned in advance.
And you can't, as Greg said, you can't incite something that was already planned.
And I think the folly of it will become clear very quickly.
There'll be some emotional appeals, and then you'll get to the facts.
And when you get to the facts, senators are just not going to have the evidence to convict, just like they didn't have the evidence to convict in the first impeachment trial.
And then the question becomes, why did we go through this a second time?
And there's a danger of a very significant political boomerang coming back across America when people realize we just wasted more time, another trial, on something that ended right where we began, with the president being declared innocent.
How does this end, John Solomon?
I think when people realize that the Chief Justice of the United States, which the Constitution says shall, meaning he's required to preside over this, would not participate in this, and they see Pat Leahy in the chair, they're going to realize what a partisan sham this was.
Yeah, I agree.
Greg Jarrett, do you think the public eventually understands?
I think people understand what a snap impeachment is at this point.
Yeah, they absolutely do.
And they realize that the House Speaker is consumed with hatred.
Her Democratic caucus resembles lemmings marching to the sea, and they rushed into this.
And, you know, as John said, the folly of it is exposed by the absence of facts.
And once, you know, Americans see this presented in the United States Senate, that there really is no incriminating evidence and only exculvatory evidence, they will conclude, as I long ago concluded, that this is just a colossal waste of time.
And it's driven by partisan politics.
And they're doing great damage to the Constitution and the impeachment clause of that esteemed document as envisioned in Britain by our founding fathers.
It's a shame.
All right.
I want to thank you both.
Very insightful.
There's going to be a lot of noise, a lot of emotion, a lot of theater with a predetermined outcome.
And you think of going to a play and you know how it ends, and there's no suspense.
But they'll make it seem like it's bigger than ever.
And hopefully, now that the Republicans are going to fight fire with fire, that'll be an effective defense.
All right.
Thank you both.
800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
All right, a little more on the Super Bowl double standard media mob in all things.
Joe Concha joins us.
And we'll get to your calls.
Final hour of the program.
News Roundup.
News Roundup Information Overload Hour is next.
Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So down with Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, News Roundup Information Overload Hour.
So many people talking about the big game.
Let it go for the record.
I think everybody on Team Hannity here picked the Bucs.
Did everyone pick the Bucs, Linda?
I think you picked me.
And you said it was going to be a big margin.
I think you won on the margin aspect of it.
A lot of us thought it would be closer.
I called Tampa Bay for winning by 17, but they won by, I think, 21 or 22.
It's a lot of fun.
But Jason was a big Brady hater, so he was not for the Buccaneers.
No, I was not for the Buccaneers.
Oh, man.
I'll tell you.
Ethan, what did you call?
What did you want?
I didn't really care.
No, I wanted Brady to win.
My heart was with getting seven Super Bowl rings.
That's insane.
Katie wanted the Chiefs.
Yes, I'm so sad.
Oh, poor.
Well, we feel bad for Katie, but she's James.
Let's play some highlights from Super Bowl 55.
Do Jinx spec nola?
Usually it's the guy you're talking.
Bro, it's weird.
Announcer Jinx is here's Brady's pass.
It's Gronkowski back again.
Wouldn't be quite that high.
Of course, the career not as long either.
First and 10, Brady from the packet.
He's got Evans.
Really done a good job of evolving this offense as it's gone on this year.
Second and 13.
Packed into the hands of Bronkowski.
And it's Sorensen who ends.
Second drive.
Now it stops to stop again.
Brady, play action.
Look at third option.
End zone.
With the touchdown.
Hold on.
There's a flag.
With 18 seconds.
Brady goes in the middle of the field to Fournette, who powers down to the nine.
They still have that one timeout.
You fake it here, and then you run on an extra if you don't get it.
There's the fake.
There's the pass.
And there's the catch for the touchdown.
Antonio Brown.
Just an unbelievable route by Antonio Brown.
And what a job.
Brady throws this ball down low in the way where no one can get it but him.
Fournette.
Fournette.
Turn out!
Touchdown!
Tampa Bay!
It's time.
He's going to be tough.
Third and 14.
He heaves it.
It's knocked away.
And on the deflection, it's intercepted.
Fourth and nine.
Again, running for his life.
Mahomes got it away.
Incomplete.
Here comes Mahomes.
Trying to find the end zone.
And no, how about that?
One last indignity.
Antonio Brown looked like his career was over.
Bronkowski comes out of retirement.
Fournette was looking for a home.
And when the Super Bowl ended, the ball would be in the hands of Tom Brady.
I don't know why we ever think it won't.
All right.
By the way, thanks to our friends at CBS Sports for the great, great calls.
And so many people.
I thought Jim Nance did a great job calling the game as he always does.
I thought it was a great halftime show with the commentary there.
I wasn't the biggest fan of the halftime music segments, but whatever.
I'm a little older.
I want the stones and the who.
I guess that ages me, Joe Conscient, wouldn't you say?
The who?
Who's that?
Yeah, exactly.
If you don't know who the who is, you're really full of crap because I know you know.
I know, I know.
Yeah, look, I was watching that.
It was the weekend that was performing.
And besides getting a little bit dizzy and probably being a bit too sober to absorb that halftime show, I just came to the conclusion I'm just old and I just don't get it anymore.
So we're in the same boat.
Yeah.
All right.
So you put out a tweet.
It says this is Brady's greatest victory.
He went to a team with a losing identity.
Didn't know the coach.
Didn't know most of the players.
He beats Breeze, Rogers, and Mahomes, which was pretty darn phenomenal in the lead up to this big game on Sunday, which I thought the big storyline for me was the quarterback story because Mahomes is a franchise quarterback.
This will not, my view, be as long as he stays healthy, hopefully, his last Super Bowl.
But I mean, when you think of beating all three of these franchise quarterbacks on the way to winning your seventh Super Bowl, it speaks volumes, doesn't it?
I mean, we talked about being old before, and Brady did all that.
He beat Rodgers, and he beat Breeze, and he beat Mahomes.
Mahomes was six years old when Brady went to his first Super Bowl.
Think about that for a second.
It's insane.
He did all this, and he did it on a team, like you mentioned, where he doesn't have a coach, right?
And it's a losing organization for the most part.
They've been to one Super Bowl out of the 54 that were played to that point.
And the fact that Tom Brady was able to just not only just win, but dominate, it just tells you that it's a culture thing with him, too, right?
Yeah, he's got the talent, of course, but where he goes, he changes the culture of that team.
And it helps to have a defense like that, too, which just made Patrick Mahomes look utterly human.
So overall, I mean, look, we got to see a Super Bowl, which if you told me in September, these guys grunting, spitting on each other.
And, you know, obviously the close physical contact during a pandemic, the fact that the NFL was able to pull this off is utterly remarkable.
And we got to have a little escape as of yesterday for lunch.
Yeah, I know, right?
And what was your meal of choice?
Mine was Philly cheesesteak, soup.
Nothing really too crazy.
You know, I wish I had something better to tell people that I had to eat.
I ended up not eating that much.
Oh, that's funny.
It was the first Super Bowl I could remember ever.
Starting in my childhood, my parents used to bring me to Super Bowl parties through college, through my young adulthood.
I host a Super Bowl party almost every year that I actually watched it without another man next to me.
But fortunately, my wife kind of knows her stuff because she had a fantasy team this year.
So it wasn't all that bad.
I had Chile and Bourbon and they couldn't be happier.
Yeah, unbelievable time.
And I guess people can pretty much argue from now until the cows come home, you know, who's the greatest of all time, which is fine with me.
But with that said, you can't deny that Tom Brady, there's something about his fierceness.
Now, if you're Robert Kraft, who I know and like, I've met him a number of times, I like him a lot, and you're Bill Pelichek, and you're watching the game yesterday.
What are you thinking?
I'm thinking, wow, maybe we should have let that guy go.
I got why they did, you know, because he was there for, you know, 20 years and you do the math and you're like, huh, what 43-year-old quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl?
No one, I don't think a quarterback over 40 has ever won a Super Bowl before.
And I guess they just felt, okay, he's at his end and we have to break up at some point.
But yeah, just to watch Tom Brady and the fact that he had to be asked, by the way, about his support for Donald Trump.
What?
He's part of 74 million people.
That's such a big deal.
I saw U.S.A. Today Comm where the columnists actually said that Tom Brady hasn't been held accountable for his support of Trump, held accountable.
What does that mean exactly?
It's just funny how Trump has to be tied into everything, including this guy, Tom Brady, who is just a role model.
He's an exemplary figure.
He's a great dad.
He's a friendly guy.
He's a competitor.
As you said, you saw him up in the face of a couple of Chiefs defenders on more than one occasion.
And this guy just wins.
I mean, to win seven Super Bowls, the next closest guy is a guy named Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw, and they have four.
It's not even close.
You witnessed greatness yesterday on the level of Michael Jordan or pick your great performer, Babe Ruth.
Yeah, unbelievable times that we have.
But, you know, you said something, too.
I mean, think of this week coming up here.
You got this impeachment shift shade, shift show charade is what we call it.
And, you know, the divisiveness in Washington is what it is.
And you see the media coverage and you follow it every day.
Now that we know that this was a lot of premeditation, a lot of coordination, a lot of planning went into what happened on the 6th, it takes away an entire narrative that Donald Trump's rhetoric incited the insurrection at the Capitol, unless they can show that Donald Trump was plotting and scheming and planning with those that were plotting and scheming and planning, which they're not going to be able to do.
It shows, A, why you don't have a snap impeachment, B, that it was all planned ahead of time.
Now, did some people that had attended the rally, a small percentage, tiny percentage of them, join in stupidly?
Yeah, they did.
They're all probably going to get in trouble for it.
But there were people that were organizing this.
And even more importantly, are the intelligence failures, the law enforcement failures.
And I believe, too, at some level, probably the congressional level, failures there because if Casio-Cortez knew a week before the insurrection that this was being planned, did she tell Speaker Pelosi?
Did she tell the sergeant of arms?
Did she tell the Capitol police?
You know, who told what to who and when?
And that's the thing.
We're not getting any answers, Sean.
I mean, the Capitol Police, they still have not held a press conference to talk about, take questions about how they were so overwhelmed and under manned for an event that apparently more than a few people knew was coming.
We knew that January 6th was probably going to get ugly in some capacity.
Not obviously where anybody's going to storm the Capitol.
There wasn't a person on the planet that could have predicted that.
But yeah, they're not answering any questions.
And the fact that we have to go through, as you call it, it is.
It's a sham impeachment because they don't have the votes to convict and even to convict, convict, what, to remove the president from office?
I believe he did that on his own a couple of weeks ago.
He's in Mar-a-Lago right now.
So we might as well just impeach George Washington at this point because retroactively, when you think about it, he did own slaves and that can't stand.
So this precedent now, we're going to have every time a party's in power.
I hope Republicans don't do this, but you're going to have a president get impeached just, as you said, in a snap way, just to put on political theater that Americans hate at this point.
We're in the middle of pandemic.
We've got a thousand problems going on.
And now the Senate that can't even pass COVID relief with the House, you know, with all those people hurting, particularly those guys in the Keystone Pipeline are out of work.
Well, we're going to concentrate on this now for a week.
And our media, well, hey, they're tickled pink about this because they get to bash Trump for another week and stand up on their soapboxes and do all their rousing, go viral types of speeches on television.
But after this, man, then the plunge comes for the CNNs and MSNBCs of the world because they don't have their JRUing anymore to kick around in Donald Trump.
And you're going to see ratings plunges.
We already saw it.
A week after Biden's inauguration, CNN nearly lost half its audience, 44% week to week.
And that's what's going to happen again after this impeachment.
And we'll get back to normal, except for Fox News.
I know I'm an employee and all, but at least we're going to scrutinize the Biden administration to hold the powerful accountable.
But those other two networks, they're going to learn real quick by cheerleading an administration and not asking the tough questions.
People are going to tune out in a big hurry.
And hey, they bathe their own grave here, Sean.
I've lived through these cycles.
I kind of love this Joe Contra.
I mean, it happens every time.
Well, let's see.
Bill Clinton got elected.
That's it for guys like Rush Limbaugh and other guys in talk radio and Hannity and so many others.
I'm like, no, that was the beginning of, yeah, opposition voices rising in the country, which had been a rarity prior to 1988 when Rush started.
I started in radio in 1987, my first time.
And then you look, oh, okay, what are you going to do now?
You have a Republican in office.
That's it.
Your careers are over.
There's always a transition.
People kind of get burnt out on politics after tough elections, but they all come running back when the issues start to matter, and they're going to matter here faster than usual.
And then Obama's elected.
Oh, what's Hannity going to talk about now?
He doesn't have a Republican on office.
Oh, what's Hannity going to talk about a Republican's in office?
Donald Trump.
Oh, what's Hannity going to talk about Joe Biden's in office?
And, you know, I just sit there and I've lived through all of these cycles and all of the predictions of my demise.
And I'm like, okay, been here, not my first rodeo.
I could write the stories for them and then I can write the comeback aspect for them too if they wanted to hear that part of it.
They don't.
You love your job, don't you?
I'm getting the feeling that you like doing four hours of radio and television every day.
I mean, do you ever think you'd be at this point in your career where you're just, I mean, that's what I'm saying?
My honest answer is I feel blessed to do it every day.
I'm worried about the country.
So many other Americans are.
I'm worried about the state of media.
It's never been this vicious or bad or false in terms of the things they report, the lies they tell, the conspiracy theories they peddle.
We've never been under more fire, but I'm kind of used to that part of it because I built up enough immunities to last me 400 lifetimes at this point.
And the trick is to say on social media, that's an ugly place.
And I think you do, right?
So that gives you peace of mind.
But yeah, overall, what we're looking at here as far as the Biden administration, plenty of things to talk about as far as particularly these executive orders, right?
He says in October before the election, if you pass executive orders and don't go through the Congress, you're acting like a dictator.
Now he's literally acting like a dictator.
And the consequences are already very dire in terms around these things.
So it's going to be interesting.
I'm curious to see who now becomes the leader of the Republican Party, right?
Because Donald Trump really doesn't have an avenue in terms of speaking, right?
Unless he has to do a rally or get in front of a microphone.
But who now emerges and becomes the face of the Republican Party?
Is it like a Ron DeSantis or a Christy Noam?
Who do you got money on?
Like, who do you like as like the Pompeo?
Is it does Cruz or Rubio or any of these guys jump in?
I mean, who knows?
I mean, and what does Donald Trump do?
I mean, you can't, you can't, the guy that wrote the art of the comeback, I wouldn't write him off so quick.
I would think if he's healthy, the odds are pretty high he'll be in consideration for running.
And I think if he runs.
Yeah, then those other candidates are toast.
I mean, how do you trail a 50, 60 million vote head start if, say, 60% of Republicans want him to run against the US?
I wouldn't want that mission, Joe Concha.
And I take on a lot of battles, so I don't need that one.
All right, my friend, thank you.
When is it that the Biden administration is going to let the thousands of fossil fuel industry workers, whether it's pipeline workers or construction workers, who are either out of work or will soon be out of work because of a Biden EO, when it is and where it is that they can go for their green job?
And that is something the administration has promised.
There is now a gap.
So I'm just curious when that happens, when those people can count on that.
Well, I'd certainly welcome you to present your data of all the thousands and thousands of people who won't be getting a green job.
Maybe next time you're here, you can present that.
But you said that they would be getting green jobs, so I'm just asking when that happens.
Well, so how about this?
The Laborers International Union of North America said the Keystone decision will cost 1,000 existing union jobs and 10,000 projected construction jobs.
Well, what Mr. Champaga also indicated in the same interview was that President Biden has proposed a climate plan with transformative investments in infrastructure and laid out a plan that will not only create millions of good union jobs, but also help tackle the climate crisis.
Yeah, let's circle back on that.
Should we circle back?
Let's circle back.
I'm going to circle back on all of this.
This is now what they're aiming to do.
Everything is going to be climate, climate, climate.
The U.N. climate envoy, Mark Carney, climate crisis deaths will be worse than COVID.
It will be the equivalent of a coronavirus crisis every year.
The world is going to end in 12 years.
Nicasio-Cortez has a point of no return.
Massachusetts climate officials, 60% of emissions come from people driving their cars and heating their homes.
We will have to break their will.
What are we supposed to bicycle to work now?
Okay.
AOC Bernie introducing a bill to declare national climate emergency.
Well, what's the purpose of that?
This way they can use emergency government powers to implement anything they want, all in the name of a climate emergency.
This is how nuts this is all getting and has been getting.
This is what the Green New Deal always was about.
All right, let's go to Sheila is in Texas.
Sheila, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Mr. Hannity, I'm good.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What's going on with you?
Oh, I was just calling to talk to you about this article that came out in Time magazine about the shadow conspiracy to fortify the election of 2020.
Have you seen it?
I have seen it.
I have read it.
A lot of my friends have been asking me about it.
And it's pretty fascinating because what it kind of confirms is that, you know what?
There really was a little cabal of people that no matter what, you know, wanted Donald Trump out.
It's sort of like a deep state.
The Red State had an interesting headline.
Why did Time magazine spill the beans about anti-Trump's shadow campaign and all but confirming it?
It's an OJ If I Did It book, you know?
Yeah, it's kind of, you know what?
It names names, you know?
It names names of all these groups, left and right, never Trumper types and others, all coordinating, well-funded, working to change election laws, control the flow of information.
All of that was chronicled.
Well, you know what?
We'll put it up on Hannity.com.
It's worth the read.
In the sake of preserving democracy, they basically have done the exact opposite of democracy.
And for those that are fine with the outcome, that's fine now that they're at Guy One.
But, you know, that's not always going to be the case.
It's more of a selection than an election.
And it's quite frankly the opposite of what this country is supposed to be about.
It's very disturbing.
And I think, you know, that this information is more information than they had when they pulled up the Russia collusion thing with Trump.
You know, this is way more than they had then.
And I just don't understand why nobody's paying attention to it.
And it's a confession and why nobody's asserting a special counsel or appointing a special counsel to maybe at least look into it because people aren't stupid and Americans see what's going on.
What it describes, let me see if I can get this right.
And you tell me if, and this is after reading the whole thing, is kind of admitting that you've got a cabal of left-wing, radical leftists, all these different groups, elitists, institutionalists, individuals in what was a comprehensive conspiracy, if you like that word, without this being a conspiracy theory.
They are revealing this.
This is not something I'm making up.
This is what they're saying.
And that they really just a well-coordinated effort at all levels to stop the election of Donald Trump and to prevent it from happening.
And it is all these groups working and coordinating in ways that I think would shock most Americans.
Absolutely.
I think all Americans should read it.
No matter who you vote for.
I mean, like I said, it's an attack on our freedoms.
It's an attack on the way our country does elections.
You know, these people are so arrogant that they think that they're doing it for the greater good, but that's exactly not what the voting process is about.
They did not let democracy be done because they wanted to make sure that the outcome was what they wanted, because in their mind, Donald Trump is an assault on democracy.
Yeah, look, it's very disturbing.
Look, all of this with canceled culture, all of this to silence talk radio, a few of us on Fox, all of this to cancel conservative voices on social media, all of the suppression of what were real news stories like the Hunter Biden laptop issued prior to the election.
But even more importantly, not only did they ignore the real Russia collusion, Hillary's dirty dossier, the Russian disinformation that was then used as a predicate and a lie to obtain FISA warrants to spy on a presidential candidate and a president, in this case, Donald Trump.
They never went with that story, but they did advance every second hour of every day for years the whole Russia collusion hoax.
And it is a hoax.
It always was a hoax.
They never cared about the truth.
They don't care about correcting the record at this point.
So, yeah, you have, the way I've been saying it my own way, but it, and this just confirms a lot of what I've been saying, and that is that we have powerful institutions in this great country, sadly, Sheila, that are failing we the people on a spectacular level.
Democratic Party, there's no lie too big they won't tell, no bit of propaganda they won't advance.
The mob and the media, they are the press office for all things radical democratic socialists now.
There's no hiding it anymore.
Big tech, full coordination, efforts to silence conservative voices left and right, even stop competitors from emerging, like in the case of Parler, and hiding pertinent information that voters would use in the lead up to an election.
It's kind of scary.
It's not the type of thing that I thought we'd ever see in this country.
Any of these things I just mentioned, I never thought could happen here.
Now it happens.
It happens on a regular basis, and nobody gets held accountable for it.
And so what does this mean for our future?
Well, I could tell you one thing.
What it means is it's not going to be good.
There's nothing good that can come out of the lie becoming the truth and the lie being advanced by some of the most powerful institutions in society that has the greatest reach to we the people.
This is going to be a very, very, very fascinating time and defining moment in our history, how this all plays out.
Ryan in Georgia.
Hey, Ryan, how are you?
Hey, Sean, good.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Good.
So listen, I was listening last week.
You guys had a caller up.
She was from Cuba.
And she was, you know, she was saying how she's a Republican.
She was fleeing socialism.
She was fleeing communism.
And it's funny because I was, you know, I talked to one of my good friends often who's from South Florida and grew up or, you know, 30 years old, grew up with, you know, a bunch of Hispanic friends.
But he said, he always said the one thing is they're all, you know, very, they swing very, very far to the left.
But all of their friends' parents, they're all Republicans.
You know, they're the ones that immigrated here.
They're the ones that kind of know what is actually behind the curtain.
And I just wanted to ask you what you think the disconnect is between the youth, because I see a lot of older people that are conservative Republicans and all their, you know, the younger kids, they're all hard left.
You know, well, there's two things to think of.
One, Churchill, if you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart.
40, not a conservative, you don't have a brain.
Factor that part in, okay?
But there's something bigger, deeper that goes on.
Every human being, you know, if you believe as I do, where human beings are mind, body, soul, I believe we're all created by the same God, and you have to factor that into things.
But as it's every single human being has a natural fear, worry, concern.
It just depends where on the scale you might fall on that level.
We should all have concern, but when concern becomes worry and fear, you're probably letting your mind go too far.
And for some people, it can even become incapacitating.
But the natural questions that any human being has, okay, I've got to provide for where I live.
I got to provide for my transportation.
I got to provide and put food on my table.
I've got to provide and get a car and pay the rent or pay the mortgage, whatever you have.
If you have kids, now you got to, okay, you got to think about sending them to college.
You got to think about a college fund.
You got to think about books and clothes and all the other associated expenses.
So there is a certain appeal, and it seems to be more for young people that tend to be idealistic, having not really lived in the real world, indoctrinated by in academia, by liberal, you know, former deadhead professors that seem to have gravitated towards academia.
But you have an appeal to everything's free.
Now, socialism, I wrote a whole chapter in Live Free or Die about it.
It's history of failure.
Whatever name you give it, whatever manifestation it takes on, the idea that the horrible rich people have too much money and we're going to take their money and we're going to redistribute it.
We're going to provide you and guarantee you government job, government paid leave, government vacations, government healthy food, government health care, government retirement.
You know, there's a, wow, I don't have any more fear, anxiety, or worry for the rest of my life.
My government's going to take care of that for me.
And the gut check on this for everybody, we have to look beyond the words, the false promises, because the one thing I learned studying for this chapter on socialism, and I've discussed over the years, is that there are always promises that will never, ever be fulfilled, ever.
It's unsustainable.
Number one.
Number two, in every case, it leads to more poverty, not more prosperity.
And number three, in the process of empowering, quote, politicians, people give up a degree of their freedoms in the name of false security.
At the time the experiment fails, the question remains, well, how much of your freedom did you lose in the process of believing the big lie?
If governments were successful at keeping their promises, then every city and every town run by liberal Democrat for decades would be safe and secure.
There'd be peace and prosperity.
It's non-existent in most.
In every state run by liberal Democrats for decades, the school system, the next basic fundamental thing government promises our kids.
Well, they have the worst scores, the worst schools, the most violence, and they are the biggest failure.
And they don't offer parents school choice.
I can look to Obamacare, most recent example of a big government program that flopped, failed, and every promise made was broken.
And that is keep your doctor, millions lost their doctor.
Keep your plans.
Millions lost their plans.
Pay less.
We're all paying on average over 200% more.
So why would we believe this Bernie Biden AOC Green New Deal manifesto of theirs?
Because anytime it's been tried throughout history, it has failed.
The appeal is the same.
Rich people, it's ill-gotten gains.
I don't know people that don't.
The only way you make money that I see, unless you inherited it and I don't know those people, is that you work hard and produce goods and services others want, need, and desire.
And that's what makes capitalism the most honest system of governance that brings the best out of people.
And that has resulted in America, you know, literally advancing the human condition, not only for the people in this country, but around the world.
It's our innovation, our invention that came up with Operation Warp Speed, which came up with a vaccine for coronavirus that we share with the world.
That's only one example.
Transportation, another example.
So does that answer your question?
Absolutely, man.
I appreciate it.
I love the show.
All right.
I appreciate it.
Long-winded answer, but it deserves the time, in my opinion.
It really does, because it's an important question.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Please set your DBR Hannity Tonight 9 Eastern on the Fox News Channel preview of the latest impeachment shift charade show in DC.
Lindsey Graham, Alan Dershowitz, Newt Gang Ritual Weigh In.
Also, Matt Gates joins us.
Lara Logan investigates.
And Lawrence Jones at the border and Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds on COVID changes in that state.
All coming up tonight, 9 Eastern.
Hannity on Fox.
We'll see you then.
Thanks for being with us back here tomorrow.
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
We got you.
I'm Carol Markowitz.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Ben Ferguson, and I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.
And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.
We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.
So download Verdict with Ted Cruz Now, wherever you get your podcasts.
