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Peter Schweitzer, friend of this program, long time, great researcher, author.
He really got this whole Biden family corruption scandal started, and and I I remember reading his book when it first came out.
I think it was January of 2018.
And it's called Secret Empires.
And by the way, to Peter's credit, he's not really partisan.
He's with the government accountability office, and he goes after a lot of Republicans in this as well, but I don't think anyone quite meets the level of corruption of the uh hunter uh zero experience hunter, quid pro quote Joe level.
Um and there is credit to be given to people like Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Chuck Grassley for following it.
But all of this, when you look at the New York Post and Bob Olinski and the breakdown and the corruption, and then the outright censoring of the information, we've got ourselves a massive information crisis in this country.
You know, anywhere between 10 and 17% of people said they would they wouldn't have voted for for Joe Biden had they known.
Well, the media in their mass contribu contribution and big tech and their mass contribution and allowing Joe to be in the candidate protection program in his basement bunker, well, and then do the job of pounding Trump every second of every day.
They did they did everything any campaign would ever want.
He didn't have to leave the basement.
Let me go to a couple of clips here, then we'll invite Peter back on the program because he's so well versed on all of this.
First, I want to start with fake news CNN.
And remember, undercover, Project Veritas, great work, James O'Keefe dismissing the Hunter Biden story.
Then you got people like fake Jake News Tapper and Christian Amon Poor.
Oh, there are no facts to support the Hunter Biden story, or Leslie Stahl saying that Biden is not in the middle of a scandal.
listen think uh on the bright part new york post fox news rabbit hole of hunter biden which i don't think anybody outside of that world understood last night Um obviously uh we're not going with the uh New York Post story uh right now on Hunter Biden, and uh which seems to be uh giving it the marching orders to Fox News and the right wing extra chamber about what to uh talk about today.
Obviously, Hunter Biden's lawyer is quoted in the New York uh post piece, and we'll just continue to report out.
This is the very stuff that the president was impeached over.
This is the stuff that the committee has looked at and found nothing wrong in uh Joe Biden's uh interactions.
Hey, Jeff it's just David on the barisma story, and we should be awfully careful about that, obviously.
But I do think it's a media story.
What in the world are uh Maggie Angman and uh Jake Sherman doing retweeting that story?
Uh Bakari, the the right wing is going crazy with uh all sorts of allegations uh about Biden and his family, too disgusting to even repeat here.
Uh I mean some of the ones I've seen from the president's son and the president, some of the president's supporters are are just wildly unhinged.
If it's me or you, Jake, somebody goes after our kids.
You know, you want to you want to go back at them just as hard as they're going after your children.
And that's Biden's record.
I mean, he gets passionate about defending his kids.
I know the eye is verifying.
Everybody to look at that, but that's not what we're hearing for.
Why don't we want to report this?
This is the one of the most powerful families in Washington.
The Biden family.
And you're okay.
You're okay with our interest being sold out to profit Joe Biden and his family when when we're suffering during a pandemic from communist China's doing community business deals with communist China.
Okay.
As you know perfectly well, I'm a journalist and a reporter, and I follow the facts.
And there has never been any issues in terms of corruption.
Now let me ask you this.
Yesterday, the SEI know that.
I'm talking about reporting and any evidence.
I'm talking to you now.
Okay, I would love if you guys would start to be and start doing that verify.
No, we're not going to do your work for you.
I want to ask you a question.
The FBI's a journalist's job to find out if this is verified.
I wish you would interview Joe Biden like you interview me.
It would be so good.
You know what?
You like this, I thought.
I thought you were.
I don't mind it.
I don't mind it.
But when I watch him walk out of a store and he's walking with a ice cream, and the question the media asked him, what kind of ice cream?
What flavor ice cream do you have?
And he's in the midst of a scandal.
He's not a good idea.
And he's taking.
What part of the scandal does she not understand?
Anyway, Peter Schweitzer is with us.
You know, now all of a sudden the acknowledgement by Hunter that, yeah, he's under investigation and uh something we've known about for a long time, Peter.
Um, this is not a small scandal.
This is the Biden family foreign crime syndicate, basically, we're talking about.
And if the last name were Trump, we both know the coverage would be dramatically different.
Now we censor stories, now we hide it from the public, and and now all of a sudden they get him elected, and then they're gonna try and what?
Just ease it over like they always do.
You're exactly right, Sean.
And and here's the thing.
I mean, the media is telling us the reason they didn't cover this story is because it's no big deal.
The fact is they didn't cover this story because it's a huge deal.
Uh, and a lot of the polling that has come out since the election that describes the fact that that there are a lot of Biden supporters that had they known what we now what they now are learning about Hunter Biden uh because of the the blackout from the mainstream media they didn't know before, they're but it's Hunter and Joe, it's not just Hunter.
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
And it's not just Hunter, and this is the key, the key ingredient um that the media is also trying to do.
They're trying to say this is a Hunter Biden thing.
I mean, you on that that uh those clips that you showed earlier, they're talking about Joe Biden's kid.
Hunter Biden is fifty years old.
He's not a kid, he's an adult, and he's been going around the world meeting and doing business deals with thugs, corrupt oligarchs.
That if if if uh the Trump family or or other uh Republicans were doing, they would be reporting.
And and you know, rightfully so.
That's what they're supposed to do.
But the the journalistic malpractice that has occurred is shocking.
Uh Sean, I remember back, this takes us way back.
Remember back in 1984, Gary Hart is running for president of the United States, and he told the media, I'm not having any affairs, I'm not unfaithful to my wife.
What do the media do?
They actually staked out and tried to determine whether it was that true whether that was true, and they showed that it was not, that he was lying to the media.
What we have today with the media is the Biden family has repeatedly lied to them.
Hunter Biden going on ABC News and saying I have never received a penny from the Chinese.
We know that he got five million dollars from CEFC.
We know he got that diamond.
We know that they got the hundred thousand dollar shopping spree.
We know he got an equity stake from Bohai Harvest, the Chinese government-backed investment fund.
That's a flat-out bold-faced lie.
And the media is accepting it.
Unlike 1984, when they said we're gonna try to verify this and see if Gary Hart is telling us the truth or not.
When it comes to the Biden, they accept it.
The Bidens are allowed to lie to them, and they just don't seem to care.
It it's it's astonishing.
It's astonishing.
Well, you know, you do deserve a lot of credit because you put a lot of work into this and it's gone back many, many years here.
Um, but I think the media is smearing the New York Post.
And frankly, you know, they did everything they could do to ignore you.
You want to talk about what real collusion is.
There's actually a pretty interesting post editorial today about this.
Um, that's their favorite word over the last four years.
But you know what collusion really is when you got the left wing media mob, you got the big tech media mob, you got a presidential candidate that's in the their their candidate protection program living in his basement bunker, never asking this guy a single tough question, uh, and then doing the work of the campaign, the Biden campaign, trashing the president every second, every hour of every day.
And that's after four year long years of lies and conspiracy theories and a hoax one after another perpetrated on the American people.
Now, I'm just worried about information, Peter.
I mean, it's like you're a light in a very dark sky.
I mean, there's there's a few of us on radio and just a few of us on TV, and that's pretty much it.
Yeah.
No, you're you're exactly right, Sean.
I mean, it it's it's uh uh you've been there from the beginning.
Uh Mark Levin has been there.
I'm I'm actually uh doing his uh Fox show uh this weekend for an hour.
Mark Levin has been there, uh a couple of other people at Fox, uh the New York Times.
Russia's been there, yeah.
That's it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Russia's been there.
That's it.
Um, and and yet the truth stands, and to just draw the contrast, I want to really flesh out what you just said before.
Remember when we went into the whole Russia hoax?
They had this dossier that of course was paid for by the Clinton campaign that was anonymously sourced.
It had no references, it had no evidence, it was just it was just made-up stuff, and they had a meeting at Trump Tower, and that became the predicate for talking about four years of collusion.
What do we have with a Biden?
We have the records of business deals that the Biden family, while he's vice president of the United States, is doing with the communist government of China.
That's not in dispute.
So the question becomes which one actually has evidence of collusion.
You had no financial transfer involving the Trumps, the dossier was completely garbage.
The the meeting in Trump Tower was nothing.
In the case of the Bidens, the media hasn't even looked at any of it, and they've declared that there's no relationship here to worry about.
Yes, they've done business deals together.
Uh, yes, they're giving the Bidens all of these deals that they have no background and expertise in, but we're just going to refuse to look there.
Um and let me just make one final point on this, Sean.
Look, Russia is a threat to the United States, but by far a bigger threat to our future and our security is China.
And what we've seen in the last three, four years has been this diversion, this building up of China is this, sorry, of Russia is this massive threat.
It's a declining economy.
Yes, they present challenges, but everybody that knows anything about national security shows that China is the threat we face.
And that is the partner that the Bidens have been doing international business with for the last seven to eight years.
And that should be the central concern of everybody, that it's possible that our future commander-in-chief is business partners, his family is, with our chief rival on the global stage.
All right, quick break.
More with Peter Schweitzer.
He got this, he's blown this whole thing wide open from the beginning with his book, Secret Empires.
We have a link on Hannity.com, Amazon.com.
Hunter Biden, there's no evidence that he's done anything wrong.
And what we all know that Hunter Biden, there's no evidence of any wrongdoing with him.
Hunter Biden did nothing wrong.
There's no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden is completely peripheral here.
First, because there's no evidence that Hunter Biden or Joe Biden committed any crime.
There's no evidence that Hunter Biden did anything illegal, made it unseemly influenced peddling.
On Hunter Biden's decision, despite no evidence that he has done anything wrong, there's no evidence to support the claims about Joe Biden's son.
All right, as we continue, Peter Schweitzer, he blew all of this Hunter Zero Experience Hunter, Joe Biden quid pro quote, China connections, Russia connections, Ukrainian barisma connections.
He blew it open in his best-selling book, Secret Empires in January of 2018.
We continue with him.
You know, the thing is is now what are the Chinese possibly have on Joe?
What do they have on Hunter?
Is Joe Biden compromised by the Chinese, by the Ukrainians?
Is he compromised by the Russians?
Is he compromised by Kazakhstan?
These oligarchs, all these people, all this money?
Is he c you know, do we now have somebody that that might be the president that's that compromised?
I I think there's no question that that you have to worry about that.
You have to worry about number one uh that they are getting favorable treatment from the Bidens because uh the Chinese government has helped the Bidens become wealthy.
Number two, you have the issue issue of compromised information.
Um you've got these money flows.
Uh the Chinese could basically blow Joe Biden up by coming to the city.
Well, then let me ask this.
Well, when they say, Oh, there's no evidence.
Just like with this election fraud, you have whistleblower after whistleblower, after eyewitness, after eye witness, after eyewitness.
Uh there's plenty of evidence.
They're actually we we we are following literally bank transfers, wire transfers, meetings, trips, all of it.
Yeah.
No, that that's exactly right, Sean.
And and and here's why I think this case is so important.
You know, some people in the media are sort of saying, well, this is kind of a tax case with Hunter Biden.
This is something far more important than this.
If you talk about people that look at financial crimes, whether it's public corruption or money laundering, um, or or you know, tax issues, you start at tax issues.
Why?
Because when you declare that you're investigating tax crimes, we have tax treaties with countries around the world.
Because governments obviously love to collect their taxes and they don't want people cheating on their taxes.
By declaring this is a tax crime, this is going to give prosecutors access to financial records and bank accounts and LLCs that we know the Bidens have.
Uh some of them uh have come up in in uh financial records that have already been re you know released in court cases.
But the bottom line is this is going to give them access to the sort of sinews and nerves of the Biden financial flow from overseas.
And I believe that this is just the beginning, the tip of the ice iceberg.
It's going to begin as looking at tax crimes and money laundering, and it's now going to become other issues related to public corruption.
And for that reason, Sean, it's essential that we have a special prosecutor that is independent of the Department of Justice to make sure that this gets looked into.
Because if we have a president Biden, he is going to shut down this investigation immediately because this is not just about his son.
This is about himself and it's about the entire family.
All right, Peter Sweitzer, I mean, it's just amazing amount of information.
Honestly, you you have to have to get his book, Secret Empires.
We're going to link it on Hannity.com.
It came out in 2018.
It's more relevant to that.
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I know it's a big ask.
I know that the country is putting a lot of pressure on Republicans and conservatives and patriots down in Georgia.
The only thing I could say is I'm not asking my friends in Georgia to do anything that I myself would not do.
And that is put a lot of urgency in the Senate runoff races.
Um and I'm not uh in spite of your own local officials, and that of course being the governor, lieutenant governor, and that idiotic Secretary of State you have.
Uh I Understand people's frustration with all that we've learned that went on down in Georgia.
I'm not going to go through all of the details.
We've been giving it out all week.
Underage people voting, people that moved voting, people that never re-registered voting, dead people voting.
We we have it all chronicled.
But that does not, you know, anger towards Kemp or any of these other Republicans does not help the country.
And if you support the president, you know, it's been four years of a very, very heavy lift on hard work, dedication, and just grunt work every day, just grind work every day to fight for the changes that he implemented.
And all of that hangs in the balance.
And then it hangs in the balance not only for Georgia, but for the entire country.
And so it's a big ask.
I understand completely, but there are good people in elected office down in Georgia.
There was a hearing down there yesterday with Garland Favorito explaining the inconsistent voting spikes for Joe Biden on election night.
I do hope that the people of Georgia, the the elected officials in Georgia, I hope they're watching Chayna Custody with these drop boxes, which they should.
I hope they're making accommodations that every vote has partisan observers.
I hope they're checking the voter rolls of every single person that makes an application in terms of an absentee or mail and ballot.
I would hope that they would have fixed the signature verification system so you don't have two standards.
I guess that's too much for somebody to ask for.
Well, putting that aside, here's from yesterday's testimony.
This is before the Georgia House in their committee hearing yesterday.
Fast forward to 822 a.m.
A woman with blonde braids brings in a skirted table into the room.
The room itself, I believe, violates Georgia law for transparency.
But the skirted table, I would think, certainly should do that.
At 930 a.m., after the delay from the water main break, that never really was a water main break.
It was just a leaky toilet or urinal.
Excuse me, urinal, ballot processing began and it continued through the day.
At 10 p.m., everything seems to be normal.
The same woman in blonde braids, now dressed differently, uh came out, changed clothes, uh, with a different change of clothes, announced that the processing will stop for the night.
You can see back here the observers are uh present at that time.
The observers are still present at 1040, but everything has been closed up here.
The monitors still stayed, and at 1055, the monitors and Fox Five reporter leave, but the four workers still remain, at least four, maybe more.
1103, the woman in the uh blonde braids begins to pull out uh suitcases from underneath this um skirted table.
1104, another suitcase goes out, and 1105, the supervisor pulls out another suitcase from under the skirted table.
1110.
The scanning of these ballots continue uh back in the here in this area where there's at least four scanners.
They do about 3,000 hours.
The scanning continued for approximately two hours, uh, with no one present, all in violation of Georgia law, as near as I can tell.
At 1255, the scanners leave uh after scanning uh approximately 15 to 20,000 ballots onto memory cards.
And 135, 40 minutes later, there is a tremendous spike in the votes for Joe Biden, a hundred thousand uh vote spike.
See how inconsistent this is with everything else.
This is the time over here on the left-hand side, and this is the votes that went up to the Biden's uh change and Trump's change by uh time frame of each of these feeds.
What you're hearing there is Garland Favorito, who is now testifying yesterday before the Georgia State Senate, uh, exposing what is remember the video tape that we saw.
He uh joins us now.
Uh Garland, thank you for being on the program.
So just to let people understand, the reason you're talking about a woman with blonde braids is because that you're looking at the video tapes that we've all seen, Correct?
Yeah, that's exactly right, Sean.
Um she was the woman uh who came out and put the table out there, and she was also the one who uh started the the but the uh excuse me the ta the suitcases from being removed and the whole ballot processing from starting.
She was the one also that told uh everybody that they weren't gonna process any more ballots, and then they continued on for two hours scanning ballots illegally with no monitors there.
And by the way, you would be called what's called a whistleblower.
Well, what's interesting about this, and I want to really go through this in detail here, is that there the media was in the room.
You mentioned uh I believe it was Fox Five.
Uh you had the regular observers in the room, they're asked to leave the room, then you go through very specific details where the ballots were under the table, they lift them up in the suitcases, take them out, said no more voting is going on for the evening.
Not only did you watch the vote counting then begin again, but only with the few select people in the room without the partisan observers, but then you're watching the vote tally go up in and around the same time.
That's something that nobody else had tied together before.
Well, exactly, Sean.
Now technically I was not in the room that particular moment.
So the I had did observe at State Farm Arena on several occasions, and I was trying to provide context for the legislatures so that they can understand what was going on.
But you're right, um that was the key piece of evidence that I wanted to provide at the Senate hearing when I was booted off the the uh agenda list by the chairman, and I could have tied that back a week ago to show that that burst of a hundred thousand votes came right after that all for Joe Biden.
But I was scheduled to go up by the presidential legal team, but they chairman booted me off a week ago.
Okay.
So they could they did now.
What was the response as you were presenting this uh before the Georgia State Senate yesterday?
Yeah, yeah, it was it was the House uh yesterday, Sean, and it was crickets.
I was expecting to get a lot of uh questions, um, and they and particularly from the Democrats, um, but I didn't even get one challenging question on my whole testimony.
They just moved right on uh and kept going.
Um and then they did come back.
One of the uh uh friendly representatives did ask me a question.
But I was kind of I was really kind of surprised.
I thought uh I would get some really, really uh aggressive questions, but uh particularly from the Democrats.
But what's ironic about the whole thing, Sean, is that uh I was in the trenches with the Democrats last year when we opposed House Bill 316 that led us to this disaster.
That was the Republican establishment last year, and now this year, uh, you know, unfortunately, uh the system proved to be as bad as what we believed last year.
So I guess uh that might have had something to do with why they didn't ask any aggressive questions, but they're just there's no answer, you know.
Uh there's just no response to this.
It's compelling evidence, and no one can refute it.
You know, uh it's so interesting.
What are you hearing from from fellow conservatives in Georgia, knowing that there's now this disconnect and anger towards the governor, the secretary of state, Lieutenant Governor, and others, and yet we have the this runoff race.
Today's the 11th on January 5th.
Voting starts in in three days.
We got you know Monday in person early voting begins in Georgia for the Senate runoff.
That's a big deal.
Absolutely, Sean, and it's a great point that you brought up.
And there is just tremendous anger down here with the governor.
Um, in light of the compelling evidence that this election was stolen from the president and the governor not calling a special session to uh to address the electoral votes of the state of Georgia.
The Republicans in Georgia are are really, really upset.
And um there's just uh uh, you know, in in addition to that, you've got the Secretary of State covering up for these these Fulton County operatives who it's appear obvious that stole the election.
Uh I I never would believe that the Secretary of State of Georgia, the Republican Secretary of State, would allow the Democrats to steal a presidential election.
But that is what they're doing right now.
They're in tremendous cover-up mode.
The Republicans are so upset about this.
Um that, you know, and all the governor has to do is call for the legislative session and resolve this issue at the legislature uh at the legislature on Monday and award the electoral votes properly.
Uh because you know the pri this would these this race was stolen, and I told him yesterday the steal is real and and the president deserves the Georgia electoral votes.
You know, the the problem is is that I I think for voters now, uh they they've got to bifurcate and compartmentalize this.
Because and this is what I'm trying to get to the heart of here.
Did do Georgia Republicans, conservators, patriots, do they I'm sure they do understand how impactful these runoff elections are, whether they're they're angry or not.
Am I wrong?
Uh listen, I'm not asking them to do anything I would not do myself.
Absolutely.
And if this was me, and this is my state, this was my election, I guarantee you I'd be out there voting.
Absolutely right.
I mean, uh all the Republicans want to vote.
That's not the issue.
What we're concerned is that these same operatives will steal the U.S. Senate race.
They're still counting votes in Fulton County.
They'll be counting the votes again in the U.S. Senate race.
And uh, if they can steal the presidential race, they will steal the U.S. Senate races, both of them.
And that's the concern right now.
And the Secretary of State is allowing them to do it.
All right, we really appreciate you updating us, Garland.
Thank you.
And we're watching very closely.
Georgia, it's a big ass.
The country needs you.
Uh this transcends anything to do with any locally elected or state elected official.
Uh this is if you care about the president and the hard work and the agenda that he's accomplished, you you got to try.
You got to give it your best shot.
Um, I'm not asking you to do anything I wouldn't do.
I would vote and I would do it enthusiastically, and it begins Monday.
Pretty scary.
Scary times really all around.
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Other news, and we'll get to all of this with Congressman Jim Jordan here in a second.
Bill Barr moved today to protect the Durham investigation from interference if there were a future Biden administration.
And he elevated John Durham now to the role of special counsel, which means that he would be protected from any interference by any potential Biden administration of any of the Russia Gate hoaxers in the Obama Biden administration end up under investigation.
And should since Joe Biden took part in that January 5th, 2017 meeting where he, Comey, Yates, Susan Rice, note to self, memo to self.
What happened in this office 15 days ago, Obama said do everything by the book.
Anyway, the Attorney General made that appointment today.
A lot of news has been made at the AG's comments that the DOJ is yet to find widespread voter fraud that could have changed the 2020 election.
Specifically, although this is a nuanced point, but it is an important one, he's saying that that would be on a federal criminal investigation.
the criminal justice system with allegations that uh he is saying should be made in civil lawsuits all of the campaigns litigation, just so you know is civil.
Uh in that sense that really doesn't have an impact on the ongoing litigation.
Uh distinction important point, but would it be criminal?
I think it would be.
And I would hope that the testimony we've been hearing all day would be compelling.
Jim Jordan of Ohio joins us right now, ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee.
How are you, sir?
I'm fine, Sean.
Good to be with you.
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
Uh I did, and I want to talk about that in a second.
So with the Attorney General's announcement uh about protecting Durham and and elevating him to a special counsel, your thoughts.
No, I think you said it right.
Remember, Joe Biden was in the Oval Office at that January fifth meeting.
Joe Biden's the guy who brought up the Logan Act that they wanted that they were thinking about using to go after uh Michael Flynn.
Of course, that's just that's the meeting where they had the strategy to go after Michael Flynn is to take him out because he would have uncovered uh exactly what they had they had done uh to the Trump campaign.
So I I think this is a a a good move.
If you look at the letter though, I think there's there's two interesting points of the letter that the attorney general sent to Mr. Nadler and Mr. uh Graham, uh uh Senator Feinstein and myself, and in that letter he says additional information has been uncovered.
So what what is that information?
How's that gonna be the the so Durham is obviously found something?
The other thing though, uh the other point that I would I make from that that that cover letter that he sent, he talks about tolling the notification.
He was supposed to, the Attorney General was supposed to tell us this when he made the determination and exactly named um named it Durham the special counsel, which took place back on October nineteenth.
I wish he would have made this public beforehand before the election.
Uh unfortunately he didn't, but I I do think it's a good move because uh if in fact it's a Biden administration, we need to remember Joe Biden was intricately involved in that key January fifth meeting that you pointed out.
All right.
Have you been watching all of the testimony today?
Have you had an opportunity to watch this?
I have not.
I've been I've been in meetings and stuff here on Capitol Hill.
I'm not.
No, well, you've been hearing from one whistleblower after another, and I played earlier in the program, I'll play it later, but I thought Democrats and the media love whistleblowers, but all these people signed uh legal affidavits under the threat of perjury, and they're all giving their testimony about all the irregularities that they saw, and it's beyond compelling, including a truck driver talking about uh transporting ballots across state lines in in large quantities of maybe up to three hundred thousand.
Yeah.
No, I I agree.
And and just step back for a second.
Sean, they're still counting votes.
Four weeks after the election, they're still counting votes in California and New York.
Ask yourself this question.
If the United States of America, if we sent people to some other country, some country on a different continent to oversee their election, and that country that we were overseeing the elections was still counting votes 28 days after the election was supposed to happen, we'd say, Oh, this is a problem.
We better talk to the UN about this.
We better do something.
We better withhold foreign aid to that country.
But here in the United States, we have two of our two of our four biggest states, California, New York, still counting ballots today.
So everybody knows something's not right with this election.
We can see all the all the the fact that this president got ten million, ten plus more million votes.
We want twenty-seven out of twenty-seven toss-up seats in the House.
We kept the Senate.
We picked up a bunch of seats in the House.
He increased his vote with Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and yet somehow comes up short.
So we we know there's something, and then we have all these people coming forward willing to swear under oath that this is in fact you know, crazy things that happen.
So of course we should look at this.
And it comes back to the fundamental question.
Why don't Democrats want to?
Why do they want to why do why do they want to rush through this?
We have plenty of time.
We've got two more weeks until the Electoral College meet.
We've got six and a half weeks until inauguration.
So let's get to the bottom of everything – Because something doesn't feel right.
And when you have 70 percent of the 74 million people who voted for President Trump, 70 percent of that number think that something was wrong with this election.
That's a third of the electorate.
When a third of the electorate thinks something's wrong, it is it is good for the country that we figure out exactly what happened.
Well, the president said in his interview with Maria Bertorromo that if the electoral college decides that it's Biden, he will abide by that.
Um, and I I don't know if I want to go there yet.
I think this process needs to play out completely.
You know, I guess if there's a level of frustration to me, Jim Jordan, is that they've been accumulating these affidavits.
Why haven't we heard from the people themselves directly sooner?
It's a month later.
Yeah.
Well, I I don't know.
I w I I'm like you, I wish we would.
Uh I'm like you.
I want this I want to exhaust every avenue that we can and get to the truth.
Um I do believe we're going to begin to hear from these folks.
I I certainly hope so.
Um, but um, you know, remember though, Sean.
Remember the lady in uh in in in Detroit uh Michigan in Wayne County, when she was going to hold off on on certifying the elections from that county.
Remember what the left did to her, what the cancel culture mob did to her and to her family.
So obviously some of these people are are are are a little nervous, and as you pointed out, it used to be that that you know uh people and in Democrats and Republicans supported whistleblowers coming forward.
But now, no, that's not the case with Democrats.
The only whistleblower they supported was the one that we weren't allowed to know his name, right?
The one that the one that was not even a real whistleblower, wasn't it a hearsay whistleblower?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly right.
So uh yeah, I I but but the my guess is that's some of the reluctance on some of these uh some of these people who've signed affidavits and and and want to testify to things, they're a little nervous about what the what the cancel culture mob on the left will do to them.
No, look, I mean, you live this every single day.
Um do we know how many house seats were picked up by Republicans in this election yet?
Have we ever gotten the final number?
I know all 27 toss-up races went Republican.
Yep.
Looks like we're gonna get to 213, I believe, is the number going to get to.
As you saw Mike Garcia was just named uh the the winner yesterday in that California seat, David Valadeo won back his seat that's a good thing.
Lee Zeldon won his race, that was done today too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think he won by 40,000 votes.
Why are we even here?
But okay, that's a congressional race.
But um so two thirteen, what's the margin then?
So they got they they have five votes.
And remember they had ten people, uh ten people who who uh won reelection who voted against uh Pelosi for Speaker.
So we'll see what happens.
My guess is she she figures out some way to to you know stay a speaker.
Cling on to power they can they can only lose a few votes on the on the House floor that uh uh on on important issues, and so it'll be an interesting uh interesting uh is there any chance that that the squad members could win that seed?
I I mean I don't know.
I I don't I don't know.
You know, I I I don't mind when the Democrats are fighting.
I figure the more they're fighting the less they're tired to take away your rights and your your liberties.
So um if they got all this infinite going on between the squad and between Speaker Pelosi and other members of their conference, I mean that's fine because that's in the long run, that's good for the country.
It's less time for less time for them to do damage and raise your taxes and all the other crazy things they want to do.
Yeah.
Now, d when you th we're looking at like a nine-seat difference then between Democrats and Republican, I mean that's really close.
But every state legislature was held as well, which also brings up, you know, there's again there's so many spectacular firsts.
Don't you find it odd, Jim Jordan, if you when you look at all of the statistics and numbers that we're now being able to put together, and you know, this is just the nature of elections.
You don't find out a lot about it until till after.
Um but when you look at all of this, you know, Biden's gonna enter the White House as the first incumbent to gain votes, the President Trump will gain eleven million votes but lose the election since Grover Cleveland 150 years ago.
150 years.
Right.
And then you then you look at, for example, he won your state by eight points, Florida by over three points.
The two swing states weren't even close.
That would make Biden the first candidate in sixty years to lose Florida and Ohio and still become president.
Uh 19 bellwether counties that all correctly picked the president each year since Reagan, 18 were Trump by an average of 15 percent.
Uh if you look at Biden unpre underperform Clinton and Obama in major liberal cities with minorities, New York, Chicago, LA, but outperform Clinton and Obama in swing state cities like Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit, and Philadelphia.
Is that an accident or just a great lucky coincidence for Joe?
Yeah, i all the while while while President Trump was getting a higher percentage of uh African American vote, Hispanic American vote, and yet somehow Biden does so exceptionally well in some of these key urban areas in in in some of the key swing states.
So, yeah, I mean the bellwether counties, that like as you pointed out, the Ohio gone by over eight points for the president.
Ohio is the state that always, over the last several years, like you said 60, but it it's the state that you have to care if you're going to win the White House, and the president carries it it by a huge margin.
So all those things together, when you just list them all out, you would think, and there was a great article in the Federals that pointed some of the things out you were talking about.
And and the the headline was why won't the media do the ask the questions about this?
I mean, that's the job of journalists.
Good you see all these strange things, and something tells you why.
Why did this all happen?
And yet somehow Biden wins the White House.
It's never happened in history before.
We've never seen anything like this.
So that should tell us something that there needs to be an investigation of this.
We've actually called for one.
We've called for Jerry Nadler and Cherwin Maloney of the Oversight Committee just to do an investigation.
We'll help them with it.
We'll help them.
We'll we'll dig in and find out exactly what happened.
Of course, we've gotten uh silence from uh from from both of those chairmen.
You know, I saw that you uh warned on Friday that the left is going to target Christmas next after Thanksgiving.
I think the funniest viral video in New York that was going around everywhere was uh a picture of Governor Cuomo peering into people's homes and win and through the window.
I don't know how many counting how many people might be at the Thanksgiving Day dinner.
Now, obviously we have an uh a big wave of corona around the country.
Obviously, I think most Americans understand what social distancing and masks are.
I think you have a greater risk.
All these kids tend to be asymptomatic, and many are not getting tested, and they come home to mom, dad, grandma, grandpa.
That's a danger I hope everybody takes seriously.
Um but I also get the impression that Americans that they have they are going to make their own risk assessment after a year.
I think everybody's pretty well informed on this.
Of course, because we're Americans.
There's one fundamental thing about Americans.
We hate being told what to do.
That's it's part of our DNA.
I you know, the old joke always comes to mind for most Americans when they're traveling down the highway and you see the sign that says 55 miles per hour.
For most Americans, that's not the limit.
That's the challenge.
So that that's just how that's just part of who we are and our heritage people coming here to settle this this this great country.
So now you've got government.
Government, think about this.
In in Ohio, you have to be in your home at 10 o'clock.
In Pennsylvania, when you're in your home, you have to wear a mask.
But in Vermont, when you're in your home, you don't have to wear a mask because you're not allowed to have friends over to your home.
Government that's what government is doing to Americans, telling them how they have to behave in their own home, their own property.
And if you don't think that kicks a lot of Americans off, then that this is craziness what we're doing.
The crazy rules Gavin Newsom had for Thanksgiving.
Oh my goodness.
You could be you had to be outside, but outside was defined as you could have a roof and you could have three sides.
So you can really be in your garage with the door up, but you can't they call it outside.
You can only be there for two hours.
I mean, it was ridiculous.
You could have only three households.
So you and your you and your your your family, your mom and dad and your brother's family could be there for Thanksgiving, but you and your mom and dad and your brother's family and your sister's family couldn't be there for Thanksgiving.
And this is just ridiculous.
And Americans have had it with the crazy rules, especially the fact that these people make the crazy rules and then they don't follow it.
And now that we've seen all these irregularities, but only in certain states, my question is you know, if we don't fix this, we never win another election.
I'm I'm worried uh about Georgia right now.
Yep.
No, I am too.
Um we got two good Senate candidates here.
We gotta do everything we can to make sure they win.
Uh but you're right, we've got to stop this vote by mail.
You can't just be you can't and you gotta you can't you can't have states do what Pennsylvania did, just change the rules at the last minute.
You know, you have all these rules in place.
You had the legislature pass the law, and then all of a sudden the state supreme court, a bunch of hacks on the court, along with the the Democrats uh uh Secretary of State and the Democrat governor, th that they go and change the rules at the last minute and and do this massive mail-in voting concept.
So that's the big problem.
We we called this uh and we we did a report, uh, Mr. Colmer and I and our our staffs on the two committees, and and unfortunately it it played out.
And you know, it was just a few years ago, even the New York Times are saying you can't do massive mail-in voting.
The potential for fraud, the potential for problems is so huge.
So we've said many times, Sean, if you can protest in person, you can vote in person.
Let's vote in person, unless it's absentee where you specifically request the Board of Elections knows who you are, knows where you live, knows you're actually a real voter, and has done that with the right.
How about voter ID, just like you need to get in the DNC?
Of course, How about signature verification that's real?
Yeah, we have both of them in Ohio.
We in Ohio, the state that President Trump won by eight points.
The bellwether state, we have you have to present your ID when you vote.
You have to sign so there's a signature match.
We only have absentee that you request for, and it can only happen in that 30-day window prior to.
So it we we have the kind of system in place that makes sense that it's actually you know not fraught with this potential for for fraud.
So that's how we have to do it.
But these states, I mean, we're here in the middle of the city.
I've got a roll, but all right, Jim Jordan, we're gonna hit the phones when we get back.
Thank you, sir.
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So we're we're chronicling, you know, the real life impact of all of these COVID government shutdowns on real restaurant owners.
Now in New York today, they they had been at 25% occupancy, indoor dining in New York.
That is now gone away.
Um we've been we've been bringing business owners on.
It is d devastating to them.
Uh remember we told you about this New Jersey gym owner.
Remember this guy, the cops had to come, they arrested him for now.
Meanwhile, the guy, I remember interviewing him at the time.
I mean, he literally, I mean, there's social distancing in the gym.
People are wearing masks in the gym.
They have wipes everywhere in the gym, they have Pure Elsewhere in the gym.
And people are choosing to go.
Now, everybody understands the rules with COVID, social distancing masks, etc.
We've gone over the med nauseum.
Do you know the fines against this one gym owner now have exceeded more than a million dollars?
It's over for him.
His business is dream.
Now, I just happen to know a lot of entrepreneurs and people that risk it all to open that restaurant, open that bakery, open that store, open that gym, open whatever.
And even though their customers want to go and choose to go, knowing everything we know, no, I did think one of the coolest things we did see this weekend was the vaccine leaving Kalamazoo, Michigan, or there around there, the Pfizer plant there, I think it's in Portage.
And getting on their UPS trucks and the FedEx trucks and and routed now around the country.
It is a tribute to medical researchers and scientists and doctors.
I mean, it's just an incredible, miraculous advancement in terms of a vaccine.
Anyway, you got a couple kicked off a United flight to New Jersey because the two-year-old little girl on the flight didn't wear the mask the right way.
And you know, she was struggling to put the mask on.
Now I'm sure there's a way to work with the girl and make that happen if you if you have the patience for it, but that there wasn't enough patience for it from what I read.
You know, the girls in tears in the video.
I mean, it's breaks your heart to see this.
And, you know, then you've got, of course, well, they're actually now looking for a recall petition as it relates to Gavin Newsom out in California, because they've shut down the whole state out there.
And the burdens that are placed on Americans, I I don't think people really understand.
Most people I know that open a small business, everything they have, they throw into it.
Every penny they have, their heart and soul they throw into it, and and it's hard enough to make it as it is.
Here's a case, for example, uh, if you look at California.
Now there's a woman who's an incredible her story would make you cry, owner of the Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill.
Anyway, I've heard her story.
I think she was on with Laura In Ingram when I saw her the the other night.
And anyway, she owns her solo saloon, her store, her sh her restaurant.
Nobody's allowed in.
And right next door, they've got a trailer in an area where they're I guess doing film production, and they're in closer contact than anybody would have been in her own restaurant that she has to pay for.
But she's now closed down.
Anyway, Angela Marston, let me first play some of the comments that she made uh calling out Hollywood hypocrisy over this.
Well, I I'm gonna say this.
It's it is a sad day when there is a huge humanitarian crisis in your backyard, and you want to bicker over who's wearing a mask or who isn't.
And that is even not the point because I actually believe in wearing masks.
My servers wear shields, they wear gloves, they wear masks.
And if you go into TJ Maxx right now, it's packed with people inside and they're allowed to be open.
You know, so I I I don't understand why, you know, Hollywood, their careers are made in pubs and bars.
You know, you start off as a waiter trying to be an actor or you know, we I have a huge community of the entertainment industry that comes in that by the way have been very, very supportive.
And the reality is, you know, I've been saying it, saying it for a long time is that pitting us against each other for survival is not the way to go about this.
If anything, Netflix should be starting a fund to help save the bars and and and help feed the people that have supported their industry right here in their hometown of Hollywood.
You know, I I don't I don't understand why they feel they have to be defensive and try to attack me because it's not about politics, it's about people.
How about they just cater out of Angela's saloon and grow?
Angela Marsden joins us now.
Uh first I'm sorry about all you're going through.
I I would imagine that everything you your heart, your soul, your finances you put into this, this is killing you.
Yeah, yeah, Hannity.
Um literally, I'm not rich.
Uh I I'm I don't come from a rich family.
Um I have a silent partner, and um his sister actually at the time was a friend of mine, and she was you know diagnosed with cancer, and he was like, Look, if I can get us a loan, maybe this will help both of us.
And I mean, we literally took out a loan to pay this bar off.
And we've been working for 10 years.
The first two years I didn't even take a salary.
I worked as a bartender just so that we could have a retirement and some money coming in to help both of us have a better life.
So yeah, I I I mean you hit it on the nail.
Every small business owner I talk to, it's the same thing.
You know, this is their life savings, this is their retirement.
And and we employ, you know.
The the the independent restaurant um association did gave me some stats.
We employ a million single parents across the country.
You know, we supply so many jobs to to the economy.
And you know, that's another thing that gets lost is the people, you know, employees that can't pay their rent, and the rent's piling up and their unemployment's running out.
And it's just it it's a it's a vicious circle of things that are like a tidal wave that's about to hit our community.
And and that's why I don't understand why you know we we all know COVID's bad.
Actually, um I have a family members that have gotten COVID, and if my father gets it, I don't think he would survive through it.
I myself have had tuberculosis, Hannity.
I I was told I wasn't supposed to be working in the public, you know, and I've had to work in the public from day one.
Uh I'm gonna lose everything.
You know, at my age, going back home and living in my mom and dad's house with nothing, that's not an option.
I I mean, I'm just listening to your story.
I mean, what I hear and I totally understand is desperation.
But your state is now shut down.
And then by the way, you do see your state officials like Gavin Newsom, he's sitting around elbow to elbow, you know, at a his own dining table.
I didn't see anybody at that table with a mask on.
Gavin, I don't know if you know this.
Far as I know, Gavin Newsom's wineries have been open the entire time.
I'm actually, you know, thinking about uh taking a pro protest there.
It's a little far from where I'm at, but I've been talking to people about it.
His been open the entire time.
And it just came out that he has I think something like eight, eight businesses that he's a part of, of which those eight got like three million dollars in PPP loans.
And I know bar owners, you know, I'm gonna give a shout out right now to Mally Sugar Mill.
You know, if you want to go and donate to them, that bar has been around forever and it really caters to the music industry and bringing in people, you know, big bands, but also making careers for people.
They did not have food.
And in LA County, if you don't have food, you haven't been able to open for nine months, and the landlords still want the rent.
They t they took out a personal loan, Hannity.
A personal loan that's almost gone and their unemployment's running out just to try to save their bar or have a chance to open God knows who when because there's no they're not telling them when they get to open.
So they don't even know when they're gonna I mean, I I truly, truly am one of the lucky ones, I say, because I did get a PPP loan.
I was able to go outdoors because I have food, you know, or more of a bar with food.
110,000 restaurants have been put out of business already.
It's just the tip of the iceberg.
It's just the tip of the iceberg.
I could tell listen, all I do now is buy my food as often as I can from all my my restaurant buddies.
I and even and by the way, I'm gaining weight because of it.
But I'm I mean, I seriously, I just I buy more food than I ever will eat.
I know these waiters, I know the chefs, I know the owners.
I mean, I mean, think of what you have to pay in rent or mortgage.
Think about putting the lights on.
Think about building out your restaurant.
Think about, you know, you need glasses, you know.
The margins how many cheeseburgers do you have?
What do you what's your like your favorite thing on the menu that you have at your place?
Uh well, we're we're we're we we are really known for hamburgers, but we're very known for our our chicken wings, believe it or not.
We have to do it.
I love chicken wings.
Oh man.
Oh, we sell we have the best in town.
We sell a lot, you know.
But you know, can you deliver to New York?
Can you stick it on one of those FedEx trucks?
But well, you know, but I I wish I could and they would still taste good.
You know, but this but the serious side of this, this is your whole life now.
And now it's literally hanging in the balance.
And I'm probably sure if I'm guessing right that a lot of your r regular steady customers are probably, you know, trying to order, you know, pick up, curb pickup and all that, but it's not the same.
And I mean, when we first did to go, I knew that doing to go, I would lose thousands of dollars, but I wanted to stay open so I could pay some of my staff at least, and and also keep the community together.
And and I did everything I could to get my sales up because we're not really known for to go, and my regular customers did everything they could to support me.
And I even did a fundraiser for the nurses.
You know, if you bought food from me, I would take it and deliver lunches to the hospitals.
Even with that, we were only we were losing ninety percent of our income.
We were not we only made 10% of what we normally would make.
And I was taking a hit of about 20 to 30,000 a month.
I was like, Now do you do you own the building or do you pay rent?
No, we we pay rent as as do most people in LA.
But that probably means you can't pay you can't pay the normal rent.
I mean, then what do you do?
Then what does your landlord do?
I'm already $60,000 behind in rent.
And nobody, the landlord will not work with you.
I mean, here's the vicious cycle that, you know, I guess and taking it off the subject of small businesses, I don't want to.
But this is why I continue to keep talking.
It's not just about my pub.
I pray and hope that my pub will be here.
I've I've gotten so much love and generosity.
But everywhere around me, I'm talking five, like within a mile, five or six businesses that are never gonna reopen that are trying to do go go fund these now.
But the thing is is like I have they these are the customers that would come into my patio and tell me what's you know, they're going under.
They're not making it.
We have people in LA, your rent is say fifteen hundred, right?
Maybe even more, who can't even pay their rent.
Their unemployment has run out.
They're on their last check.
And the building owners aren't working with them because the banks are not working with the building owners.
The building owners still have to pay taxes and they still have to pay expenses.
They're not all the buildings.
A lot of people own little apartment buildings as a retirement as well.
They're not getting any.
By the way, Linda Linda sent me the article on this.
You're right about the winery owned by or founded by Gavin Newsom.
Well, his winery's open.
Can I believe it?
Yeah.
The answer, the answer, sadly, is yeah, I can believe it.
Yeah.
There's gotta be a happy medium.
Now, I've been to restaurants here that were well, now they're all closed.
Well, New York, I you know, I've heard 20 years.
21 just shut down.
You know how long 21.
I'm now I've gave a speech there.
I've not you never used to dine there, but I've given speeches.
How many years, Linda's 21 club been in New York?
I read that, and I broke my heart.
Oh my gosh.
I've never been there, but you know, uh here it's happening here.
We have the Valley Inn.
It's been here for 50 years.
They're drowning in debt, and they don't think they're gonna make it.
I can tell you 10 places that have been here that long with history that are gone.
They're not gonna make it.
By the way, Linda just you could say it on air.
You can get the credit.
I'm not stealing.
1930, not my credit, give it to Ethan.
All right, thank you.
As we continue, uh Angela Marsden is with us.
She's the owner of the Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill, and she's now completely shut down.
So, how many people work for you on a regular basis in the Pineapple Hill saloon and grill?
By the way, next time I go to California, I'm going straight to your restaurant.
I'm gonna get some chicken wings instead of in and out burger.
I'm gonna give you some great hot wings.
Yeah.
Um, I mean, what but you know, look even look how much money do you make on an order of hot wings?
You're not making a lot of money.
We make our money off off we make our money off people coming and drinking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I I have I have always employed 15 to 16 people during uh you know, a normal year.
So I'm kind of in the middle.
I'm not real small, I'm not real big.
Um, let me ask you, do you have like a GoFundMe page or anything?
I'd like to donate.
I mean a little bit and help you out.
Anybody we do we do have a GoFundMe page, and I've been very, very I mean, I'm not kidding you, all over the world.
I've had people from Australia, from London.
Um, I I'm blessed that we have gotten a lot of donations more than most.
I continue to keep talking to shine a light on other businesses around me that are going under, and also to try to, I would love to recall news to them.
I want to get this state open in a safe way.
California's so far gone.
I I hate to tell this to you.
It you need to pick up and go to like Texas or Florida.
Get the hell out of there.
So many people tell me that.
I and I know it's terrible, but I live five years in California.
It's a beautiful state, but it's gone.
I gotta run.
What's the GoFundMe page?
They can find us on PH Saloon on Facebook, and there's a link, or they can go to Pineapple Hill Saloon on Instagram.
We'll put it up on Hannity.com, make it easy.
How's that?
Listen, uh our thoughts, prayers with you, your employees, your business.
I mean, and I hope people can, you know, if they if you can't get in there, maybe you can just order dinner tonight.
Thank you, uh, Angela.
We're praying for you and your family.
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Lou uh uh Gilarmino is with us.
He's the lawyer for that Staten Island bar owner, Danny Presty.
I mean, he's running for his life the other day.
Two guys jump on his car, the tens up there hops, plain clothesman's that didn't identify themselves, trying to get the guy off the front of his car.
He wasn't trying to hurt the guy, and it turns out he wasn't hurt.
Amy Heikinen is with us, the owner of Casey Rosetta, uh, and her attorney Eric uh Cullen is with us uh about the shutdowns in New York, Michigan, respectively.
Lou, I I had you on the program with Danny, and I'm like, uh I'm I mean, I feel so bad for this guy, and I love the community wants to rally around him.
If they want to take a risk at this point, I don't think the government needs to send in the police squad, the COVID squad, to arrest everybody.
You know, Sean had said, uh, you know, I I I'd like your your listeners to picture this.
You're on mainstream America, main street America, anywhere USA.
On one side of the street, you have a pub serving food, uh serving alcohol, the owners making money, and on the other side of the street, literally, you have somebody that has the same type of establishment that can't.
How about even this?
How about on one side of the street is Fox News and one side of the street is CNN and Fox News is not allowed to broadcast.
Right?
Or even one more example.
By the way, this is for people that don't understand what you're saying here.
This is real.
I mean, it's so arbitrary and capricious, is what you're saying.
Exactly.
It's literally happening.
How about the guy on the right side of the street can feed his family and buy Christmas presents for a family, and the guy on the left side of the street cannot.
That's what's going on in America right now.
That poor woman that you have on uh that you ha have on with us, I our heart goes out to her.
But that's happening right here in Staten Island also.
That's literally happening right here in America.
And not only that, how about the guy standing in the middle of the street is the mayor and the governor?
And not only are they not allowing you to open, they're mocking you and lecturing you and talking down to you and treating you like they don't work for you.
So that's what's going on here at Staten Island.
And by the way, when Danny was running, and I watched, these were plainclothes policemen.
Now, by the way, all my cop friends were watching the segment in New York, and they're like, that's not us.
Excuse me.
No, we don't want to do that job.
Um, and apparently, I guess it was Comrade De Blasio that sent in his guys.
That's what they that's what they were telling me.
But in the report, you said they'd never identified themselves as police officers, right?
They're not police officers.
Let's make that perfectly clear.
NYPD and the state troopers want nothing to do with this.
By the way, they let me know loudly it wasn't them, trust me.
And and we've been making sure everybody knows.
This was the sheriff's deputies that had been conscripted by De Blasio to be his own personal political hit force.
They did not, they they literally ambushed him two blocks away from his restaurant.
And he was running for his life.
Well, they came out of the shadows twenty-five yards behind him with complete dark outfits on with skull caps on, and yelled Pris Preste and start sprinting towards him.
That's confirmed in the police report.
So they and they literally ambushed him.
Any American, any reasonable person would have started running for his car.
When the guy was on top of the car, you could see that Danny's just saying, get off my car.
He's stopping it, so the guy had an opportunity to get off.
He doesn't want a guy, you know, uh hanging on to the front of his windshield as he's driving.
He's giving him opportunities by stopping to get off his car.
That's exactly what happened, Sean.
I'm I'm glad uh everybody had a chance to to see it.
We're the ones that released the video.
He went slow.
He was trying to shake them off a little.
He there's a huge there's a huge man dressed all in black with a skull cap on, standing up, grabbing to the grabbing at the front of his car.
What would any reasonable person do?
I know Governor Cuomo was tougher than the rest of us.
Maybe he would have stood and fought with them, but the rest of us would have did exactly what Danny Preste did.
Uh let me go to you, Amy, and you're the owner of Cafe Rosetta.
Tell me about your business.
Oh, yeah, in a word, this is about independence.
This is deeper than just my business.
Um day I finally said no to my abusive husband and decided to go on my own, and I vowed never to be dependent on anyone again, including the government.
So Cafe Rosetta saved me.
I was a single mom, newly divorced, with six kids that only knew well welfare, and I knew there had to be a better way.
Cafe Rosetta gave me a place to focus all my energy, uh, baking, cooking, barista.
Nine years later I built a successful business.
I'm independent, and I refuse to be independent, um or dependent uh on anyone, even the government.
It's just it's just not negotiable.
Yeah, I mean it's and it's very hard.
Tell everybody the reality of what you're experiencing, though.
So today we're open and we're being fined a thousand dollars a day just for being open.
Um trying to support my family.
We have thirty employees.
It's been over thirty days now at a thousand dollars a day.
The local health department, state, local governments are emailing, sending certified mail for the uh fines.
Uh we have court dates.
I spent five hours in court yesterday on Zoom just defending myself.
Unbelievable.
Eric, I mean, is there any remedy?
Is there any solution, any options for people like uh Amy that they can, you know, get their businesses up and running?
You know, I look I uh I speak from experience here.
Uh my dad was a waiter on weekends.
I grew up washing dishes and busing tables and waiting tables and tendon bar, did it all, and I was even a cook for a while.
And you know, to open a restaurant, I don't think most people understand.
You you've gotta either pay the rent or the mortgage, then you gotta hire the people, then you gotta build out the the place, you gotta build out a bar, you gotta build out tables, you gotta, you know, make it look nice, you gotta stock everything, and you gotta stock your kitchen, you put in your dishwashers and your cooks, and then your waiters and waitresses and bartenders, and that's the you all this money pouring out the door, Eric, before you ever sell a single drink or a single hamburger.
Yeah, tell me all about it, Sean.
Yeah, I started I'm actually an advocate, not a formal attorney, but I am definitely an advocate of Amy.
Uh back in April after the first shutdown, I started a campaign called Out Business is Essential.
And I got vocal at that time because they decimated my one of my businesses.
Absolutely knocked it on the ground.
And I raised some money, I did a billboard and a media campaign fighting the unconstitutional mandates that Gretchen Whitmer threw at us.
And when Amy showed up at Cafe Rosetta, it's in my town, and I I heard she wasn't shutting down, I just absolutely felt compelled to help her.
And the more I get to know Amy, uh it's just the more amazed I am by the story.
You talk about your family.
She she's absolutely a story.
I mean, how do you pay a thousand dollars in fine a day to keep your cafe open, Amy?
I mean, it's a short answer.
Sean, the short answer is is you don't.
And uh, I mean, this girl the absolutely personifies the American dream, and so so how do we do this?
Uh we we started one of a local neighbor here started a fundraising campaign campaign on give send go.
If you go there, give send go and search for Amy and Jake, uh, you can contribute to this battle because the fact of the matter is she can't afford to do this on her own.
We'll continue with Lou Gellarmino.
He's the uh attorney for that Staten Island Bar owner, Danny Presty.
Uh also the owner of Cafe Rosetta, Amy Heikinen is with us along with our advocate uh Eric uh Kellanan and uh much more on the other side.
And as we continue the real impact on real businesses with Lou Gellarmino, he's the uh attorney for that Staten Island Bar owner, Danny Presty.
Uh also the owner of Cafe Rosetta, Amy Heikinen is with us along with our advocate uh Eric uh Kellanan.
One of the things that's is kind of inspiring, and I heard it's your case, I know it's the case with Danny Presty and the whole community in Staten Island's basically come out to support this bar owner and restaurant owner.
And but you know, from what I hear is people are going out of their way to to purchase stuff from you.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I've got all my buddies out here where I live, and I'm I'm constantly ordering food that I know I'm never gonna Touch.
I'm just like, all right, I'm gonna have a sampler plate tonight.
I'll order three meals instead of one because I mean it's that pivotal for their survival.
They're just trying to survive and and not gulp water every day.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
We have great support.
Lots of people coming from all over the state, people calling from all over the country.
What do you specialize in, by the way?
I'm kind of interested.
What is your if you're gonna be the baker of the country?
What is it?
I would call it the Nisu Cinnamon Roll.
It's a well, okay.
Now don't take this the wrong way.
That is like a drug to me.
You cannot you cannot put a cinnamon roll in front of me without me like scoffing it down.
You know, in seconds.
And I'm like a little kid.
I have to like have a glass of milk with it.
It's so pathetic.
It's really bad.
Um if I could jump in here, Sean.
I just uh I don't know if you remember America's Barber uh Carl Manke, but uh with the funds that were raised here in the last four or five days, over 40,000 now.
Uh she's been able to retain David Colman, and he represented America's barber Carl Mankey.
And so we we got we got him on board.
He's he's guiding her, but we're expecting this to cost about 130,000 to fight it all the way through the Supreme Court.
And so once again, as an advocate, I just want to encourage everybody to reach out to Give Send Go and look up Amy and Jake and help her out.
I've never heard of Give Send Go.
And you just look up Amy and Jake and you're gonna find out and you can help these people out.
You know, uh and and Lou, I mean, with Danny, what is he doing now?
Um, I see all these people that want to go in every day.
Uh is he opening?
Is he not opening?
Is he doing takeout?
What is he doing?
Sadly, Sean, there's a shutdown order.
They've they've they've closed the the restaurant and and um the city has closed the restaurant, the sheriffs have shut it down.
Um nobody's allowed in it.
The public's not allowed in it.
My partner and I, Mark Fonti are actually fighting that as literally as we speak.
Um, but unfortunately, um they won't let anybody in the place right now.
The city won't allow anybody in the place right now.
Stephen.
Okay, but you know, a lot of places are putting out, and I even say in New York City, you know, they're putting up these little tents.
They even have little private tents for like a dinner for two or four.
And they won't allow them to do anything, Sean.
They won't let this guy do anything.
So the guy basically and and and who's gonna pay the rent next month?
Who's gonna pay the mortgage next month?
Well, we're very grateful.
Is the Blasio gonna pay for it?
Of course not.
Uh of course not.
We're very grateful that there's been a GoFundMe and and he's he's got uh very very big support from the community, so that might help for a month or two.
But unfortunately, all he wants to do is make cheeseburgers and serves some beer, Sean.
They won't allow them at all.
The city is completely shut down the place.
I mean, I know a lot of my friends did that for a while.
Nothing.
They won't allow him to do nothing because he can't even go in his own bar.
He can't even walk in his own bar without being arrested.
They've made it clear that they will rearrest him immediately if him and his partner walks in the bar.
Well, he's become like a symbol because he's like, you know, and the town supporting him and the people of Staten Island, New York supporting him.
That's I'm telling you, it really is unbelievable to me.
It really is.
Well, I'm I'm like I mentioned on your show, I'm so proud of the people of Staten Island.
Two thousand of us came out in support of Danny Preston.
Uh not a looter, not a rider, uh not uh not a they actually cleaned up afterwards, Sean, like I mentioned on the show.
We a hundred people stayed to clean up the street afterwards.
So I'm so proud of the people of Staten Island.
But unfortunately, we have a big battle on our hands against uh Mary DeBlasio Government Colmo.
They are taking this one personally and and putting up every broad box they that's imaginable.
Yeah, he takes the hardest stand against business people like Danny and and if you're uh going to church or synagogue.
That's his that that's his biggest thing.
Unbelievable.
All right, we wish you the best.
Please send our best to Danny.
Good luck in your case.
Amy, we're gonna follow you.
I hope you guys make it, and I'm very sorry you're living through it.
It's tough on you, it's tough on your kids, your family, your business, your life.
It's you know, it's these are unbelievable times.
Thank God warp speed got us these vaccines.
If I think if we can hang on through May, we'll we'll all be back, hopefully getting back to.
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There's a battle that's been going on now with China and Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee.
Now, it's very interesting.
If you look at the comments, one of my big questions, Ron Johnson and Charles Grassley did this report on Zero Experience Hunter.
And we find out that things go way beyond him not having a background or experience in oil, gas, energy, Ukraine, and the millions of dollars made with Burisma Holdings.
And quid pro quo, Joe withholding a billion dollars.
You either fire the prosecutor in six hours.
You don't get it.
That prosecutor investigating his son, Peter Schweitzer, on earlier talking about the Bank of China deal.
Hunter, zero experience that we can find in private equity, flying with dad all across the world.
And, you know, 10 days later, a billion dollar deal later becomes a $1.5 billion deal.
And the Grassley Johnson report chronicling Kossack oligarchs and wire transfers with them, a Russian oligarch, the first lady of Moscow in a wire transfer of three and a half million, a shopping spree worth a hundred grand for Hunter and his family by Chinese National.
Then the news yesterday, it even gets deeper is yeah, this is office space for me, my dad, my uncle, and uh yeah, this guy from China.
Okay.
And Marcia Blackburn says China has a 5,000 year history of cheating and stealing, and some things will never change.
The Chinese responded.
We'll get to that in a second.
Um, but Chuck Grassley saying Hunter and James Biden essentially served as agents for this government, the Chinese government.
Listen.
These associations and the millions of dollars that pass between and among Hunter Biden, James Biden and others, create criminal financial and counterintelligence and extortion concerns.
That's why I've written to the Justice Department about the risks that Hunter and James Biden essentially served as agents of the communist government for purposes of their registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
After Hunter Biden publicly confirmed he was under criminal investigation, liberal news outlets reported on concerns that his financial associations could create criminal financial and counterintelligence problems.
Something you heard from the Johnson Grassley report several weeks ago.
All right.
Joining us now is Senator Marsha Blackburn.
Uh, I see that China responded calling you a racist and ignorant, the most racist, ignorant U.S. senator I've seen.
A lifetime, then the B word.
And anyone not told the communist Chinese it's not a nice way to talk to a lady.
Um I know you're tough and you can handle it, and and uh, but I still don't like it.
And uh I'm a little annoyed because based on all of these foreign dealings, uh, nobody seems to want to ask the question what are the communist Chinese have on Hunter and Joe?
Because I think there could be a compromise situation here.
There is no doubt, Sean, that this could be a compromise situation.
And when you look at the affiliations Between Biden Incorporated, primarily Hunter and James, and the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party.
And see, this is one thing I think that is so important for everyone, for all of us to keep in mind.
When we talk about China, we are talking about the communist regime that is running China.
And Hunter Biden has had business dealings with these companies, with these banks that are owned in large part by the Chinese Communist Party.
So of course, this is something that should be investigated.
Of course, 2018, he was being investigated.
Biden campaign knew this.
You know they knew it.
You know Joe Biden and Jill Biden Biden knew this, but nobody ever asked them the hard question.
And now Hunter has had to admit, yes, he has been under investigation.
So we know the New York Post story was accurate.
We know the that the owner of the Mac shop was telling the truth, and now they've tried to ruin his life.
So, you know, China has sanctioned me.
They come after me because I've been tough on them just not yesterday and a few weeks ago.
I've been on China's case, going back to my work in the house, defending intellectual property, fighting piracy, making certain that U.S. innovators and U.S. companies didn't get ripped off by China stealing their trade secrets, reverse engineering their products and their components.
And we're going to stay on their case.
China took our jobs, they took our innovation, they sent us a virus.
It is time for us to begin to hold them to account.
And I don't know if Joe Biden is the person that could do that because I think his position is compromised.
Well, I mean, I don't know if we're ever gonna get to the bottom of it.
I mean, you saw what happened in the lead up to the 2020 presidential race.
I I mean that the media just dismissed this as nothing, and then they suppressed the story about Hunter Biden um and the laptop and Bob Alinsky and the crackpipe pictures and everything in between.
Well, and this is one of the reasons that we want to make certain and are pleased that the that the Durham investigation now is a special counsel.
We need to do likewise with all of this on Hunter Biden so we can find out what did happen.
How is it that the Biden family was so engaged with people in the Ukraine, uh, with Barisma, with the Chinese, with the Chinese energy company.
How is it that they were able to accept all of these elaborate gifts?
Diamond rings, shopping sprees, and nobody said anything, and the media never reported it.
You know, the media research center said that with this information on Hunter Biden admitting he has been under federal investigation for two years, that the mainstream media has only spent nine minutes covering this story.
That is unbelievable.
Nine minutes, the son of a guy who wants to be president.
I still hope we get four more years of Donald Trump.
But, you know, and he has been under investigation for two years by the FBI, by the Department of Justice, for tax evasion, for money laundering, and the media does not cover it.
Well, it's sad because I don't see it changing anytime too soon.
Uh anyway, I appreciate the fight that you're in, Senator Blackburn of uh Tennessee.
Thank you.
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Caleb is in uh Texas on the Sean Hannity show.
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
You're 18 years old, I see, huh?
Yes, sir.
I turned 18 on October 28th of this year.
I live in Jones County, Texas, and I voted for Donald Trump and I support John Corner and Ted Cruz.
And I just want to say that I feel cheated by this government.
I really do.
I feel cheated by elected officials.
I feel cheated by the court, the the Supreme Court, and I also feel cheated by my fellow voters voters who aren't paying attention.
The the Supreme Court is supposed to uphold the law.
And they're not they're not upholding the law and the justice in this country.
And the news shows that.
The facts show that.
And I I just want to know why our country is not doing anything except for a select few group of individuals.
So I have kids around your age, okay?
One of the things I do try to instill in them a lot, and I have, they're both athletics, so I'll I'll use a sports analogy is life isn't fair.
Uh people do cheat.
Uh you don't always win.
The harder you work, the better you'll do.
You got it in life, you know.
You just got to understand that not everything in this world is fair.
You know, uh, do I see a lot of fraud and abuse, and I'm listening to the stories of whistleblowers and witnesses, and I'm looking at the affidavits, and um I I it's it's mind-numbing to me.
I wish I could tell you things like this didn't happen happen, but they do.
I'm just giving you the real deal here.
No, no Pollyannish anything.
And but, you know, I'm hopeful there were 75 million of us that voted for Donald Trump.
Um I'm hopeful that our top priority now becomes fixing a broken election system.
I'm hopeful that we can write the ship and and correct the wrongs and injustices, but in the back of my mind too, I'll be I'll be totally blunt, and I fear the admonition of Reagan, and that is freedom is but one generation away from extinction.
And I don't want it to happen on my watch.
Too many people have fought blood and died for this.
Uh and and we hear the stated agenda of radical socialist democrats.
I can tell you based on my experience, these policies will fail.
These promises will never be met.
Uh we will give up freedom in the name of false security, and then it's just a question of how much we give up, and will the American people ultimately, I prayerfully, wake up and understand uh that you know this can't happen in this country.
Uh you know, this is the kind of thing that we're talking about and have been discussing every day.
It's almost hard to wrap your mind around it completely and and comprehend it all, but that's the type of stuff that always happened in in those other places.
I didn't expect it to happen here.
So look, I mean, for you, you're 18 years old.
You have your whole life ahead of you.
Um, my my best advice to you is find whatever talent God gave you.
My advice to you is use freedom to bring the best out of yourself.
Ultimately, you're gonna be in some business where you either produce goods or services that people want, need and desire.
Be the best at what you do, try to be the best, try and improve every day, and fight for the things you believe in.
And if more people would do that and and be skeptical of people, be skeptical of be, be skeptical of anybody.
You know, trust but verify.
And I think that those those simple things, you know, follow the basic rules of life, love God, your neighbor as yourself, and start there.
And if you do that, then you know what, good things will start to happen for you, okay?
Yes, sir.
Thank you, Sean.
It was a pleasure to speak to you.
And I have one question.
Yeah.
Um, I am currently researching the history of our country and such, and in addition to your book and other Berks' books I picked up by Charlie Kirk and Ronald Reagan.
Do you have any book recommendations that I could use to educate myself?
Yeah, redu the do the great ones book, Liberty and Tyranny.
Start there.
He's written some great books on the on our constitution on the thought leaders that inspired our framers and our founders.
I don't think there's anybody that's that's written a better book than Liberty and Tyranny.
Try that one.
Okay.
Thank you, Sean.
All right, my friend.
God bless you.
Thank you.
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Uh Frank is out in Long Island.
Frank, hi, how are you?
Glad you're with us.
Hiya, Sean.
I'm kind of at the other end of the spectrum.
I'm 68, gonna be 69 years old.
And so let me just say the election was fixed, and nobody will ever convince me of it that it wasn't.
But this is the troubling thing for some from my perspective.
Okay, we control the Supreme Court.
Donald Trump comes along, and the forgotten people to desist meet, we put them in office.
We got control of the Senate.
We got control of the House of Representatives.
What happens?
Nothing really.
McCain thumbs us down on Obamacare.
We do pass the tax cuts, but nothing else really gets done.
He puts three Supreme Court judges on the court.
We control the Supreme Court six to three.
The election comes now.
Ten eleven million.
Obviously, we don't.
I mean, let's be honest here.
We don't because it's phony.
We we can't vote against us.
They vote.
Frank, a Republicans always get burned.
Republicans, uh, Democrats always get the radical judicial activists that they want.
And, you know, John Roberts is a disappointment what went on behind the scenes.
Eventually it'll come out.
You're right about Republicanism.
I'm not a Republican.
Republicans have been weak, feckless, spineless, visionless, and Donald Trump gave him courage and gave him a backbone and showed people what he really taught people if you pay attention.
If Republicans paid attention, is if you fight and you keep your promises and you fight to keep your promises, you'll get rewarded.
You know, and and unfortunately, he was such a threat to all things the swamp, they were not going to let him win.
And I think that's where you and I are in full agreement.
There are way too many witnesses, eyewitnesses, way too many laws that were ignored, way too many things that happened here for I think reasonable people to have trust, faith, confidence that this election was held with integrity.
I I don't believe it was.
Could I just say one thing?
The Trump people, there's 75 million of us.
No swamp creature can survive us.
Primary these guys.
Get them out.
Because without our votes, they can't win a primary for any office without the Trump people.
The Republican Party, we are the majority now.
The Trump people are the majority.
Hey, listen, all you need to look at, Frank, is two votes.
One was in the Senate.
You mentioned John McCain.
There was also in 2015, Republicans had the Senate, and they didn't have the White House was never going to sign a straight repeal bill on Obamacare.
Seven senators when the vote mattered in 2017 changed their vote.
Seven Republicans.
You had sixty-five show votes to repeal and replace Obamacare.
Sixty-five.
And guess what?
Um, they didn't do it when it mattered.
And that would be 2017.
So it's not Republicanism.
Donald Trump did this, and and most of his accomplishments were done independently him taking on the full burden on himself.
I mean, he's a um he's a metaphysical force in the sense that this guy just doesn't stop.
And well, he wasn't presidential, he's tweeting.
Why do you think the switch goes off at a certain hour every day?
It doesn't.
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