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Nov. 6, 2020 - Sean Hannity Show
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Rampant Fraud Is Real

Chairman of the Freedom Caucus, Andy Biggs of Arizona’s 5th District talks about the rampant fraud in this presidential election; particularly in a few states, one of them being the all important state of Arizona. The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
Uh we got a lot of stories, what's going on behind the scenes, battles, fights, uh, recounts, you name it.
I I want you to all just stop for a second and think about this.
How is it possible that so many states with larger populations are capable of running elections that people have faith, trust, belief, and confidence in.
And then here we are, 87% of the vote counted.
It's Friday.
How is that possible?
Now, not talking about absentee ballots, not talking about any of this stuff.
It is, you know, what has been building in this country for a long, long time, and I have been trying to warn everybody as best I can.
Uh, and and I work in the communications business, and I wish I could say what I'm what I'm feeling and seeing better than I think I've been able to communicate.
I should be able to communicate better.
And there is every right when we see that observers of ballots, and it's it's a matter of law, and I'll go through the laws with you so you fully understand that political observers are allowed to watch the vote count, and that they've been denied that.
Um, what is the remedy at that point?
Uh, if the law was violated, I guess that's up for the courts to decide.
But the law shouldn't be violated, and we should have a system in this country at this day and age whereby this is standard operating procedure, and that there is no room to take away the the faith and the confidence in the outcome in any place, any state, regardless of whether they slant red or blue or purple or pink or whatever.
And and that is, you know, you cannot tell me that this is the best we can do because it's not.
And as soon as they the desire, the push for changing election laws and extending out dates and saying needed postmarks, no needed postmarks, you know, you it was all building.
But it's been building bigger than that, faster than that, longer than that.
And I've been trying to go out and explain to people on a regular basis what's really going on deep behind the scenes.
Now, I have said, and I'm gonna repeat here that we have major institutions that are systematically failing we the people, and they are all doing it because they all have a power political agenda.
Why did we spend why were there so few of us in our our ensemble cast here on radio, our ensemble cast on Hannity, the TV show.
Why so few that were able to discover slowly dig deeper And deeper and deeper and take a dot.
And by the way, we're also going through this process called vetting and verifying and sourcing our information.
And we end up, you know, doing three years of what did we hear from the media mob, one of the institutions, one of the great institutions that has failed us on a spectacular level.
It is the words cannot describe.
They are not people you can go to to get the truth.
That's why I say they're a mob.
They have look what they've done this election, the media mob.
Look at Joe Biden has to answer no questions.
They allow this guy.
They know he's in the media politician protection program hiding in his basement bunker.
You don't get simple answers to simple questions that any other candidate would have to answer about packing the courts.
DC Puerto Rico statehood.
Joe Biden saying if he's elected president, he's just saying today that his first step is to join the Paris Accords.
Well, the Paris Accords requires a swift and dramatic reduction of the use of fossil fuels.
Well, isn't that what he was just telling Pennsylvania prior to the election that he wasn't going to do?
Now he's saying he's going to do it on day one.
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
So but it's but it's bigger than that.
Because they told you day after day, minute after minute, every second minute hour of every day, the Trump-Russia collusion happened.
And we they dragged the country through hell for three years, and there was no Trump-Russia collusion.
But if they really cared about Russia collusion, now stay with me on this.
If they had cared when we did discover a bought and paid for, I'll use the New York Times final conclusion late in the game, Russian, likely Russian disinformation dossier that Hillary Clinton paid for, that we now know she did on purpose to distract from the violation of the espionage act and the subpoenaed emails that she erased and the hard drives that she erased.
Okay.
So the point is nobody in the media, they lied, they spread smears and slander and besmirchment and libel and conspiracy theories and hoaxes for three years.
That's an institution that lied with regularity on a daily basis to the American people.
And then when the real Russian interference came in, and Hillary did pay for the Russian dossier, and that dossier then was used.
I'll use Andrew McCabe's words and Sally Yates' words, and when it was used to get the warrants to spy on then candidate Trump in 2016, and then President Trump when he was elected and his transition team in the interim.
Now think here, follow this through.
Did any Democrat speak out against that Russian interference?
Did anybody speak out about how that is fraud on a court to spy on a presidential candidate?
And any think any Democrat, anybody in the media, did they care?
Did they care at all?
And then ask yourself this question.
If Donald Trump had done it, would they have cared?
You know the answer.
So this is an institutional failure of both the Democratic Party, the media.
Now you can add big tech because they're deciding what you can read and what you can't read.
They're like the leading half the president's uh text messages, all the networks bailed out on the president speaking to the country yesterday.
We are fact-checking him.
We're not going to let you hear it for yourself.
This is how bad it's getting.
Now, with this, you know, one party, one state rule that they're going to try to establish in this country, is the the greatest casualty is going to be truth.
Now, if the media is willing to do that for three years and then follow up after it fails with this phone call with President Zelensky, we only had one fact witness it ends up.
Every opinion witness, every every hearsay or double hearsay witness, but the one fact witness, what did President Trump say in the call?
Did he did he?
I don't want anything.
I don't want to quit pro call.
I want him to have an honest government.
But they ignored Joe Biden.
Stay with me here.
This is not old material.
This is not irrelevant.
Joe is on tape bragging about uh I you got six hours.
You're not getting a billion taxpayer dollars unless you fire Victor Shokan, a prosecutor.
Who's Victor Shokan?
A prosecutor in Ukraine.
Why would a vice president want to fire a prosecutor and threaten to withhold a billion dollars in aid?
Our money, our tax money.
And the reason is is because we find out his son, zero experience hunter is making millions.
Uh, and that's that's that company's being investigated by the prosecutor.
And and son of a bee, they fired him.
Stop for a second.
The media never went with the story.
They ignored it.
They protected the candidate.
They protect you know in the lead up to this election.
What did we learn about other business dealings?
What do we learn in Peter Schweitzer's book?
Zero experienced Hunter gets a billion dollar deal with the Bank of China ten days after he comes back from China, having flown on Air Force II with his father.
What if this what if you try what if his name was Hunter Trump?
So do you do you understand here now what I'm talking about?
We have systemic institutional corruption.
It's the media.
It's look at when they tried to explain money wire transfers from a Russian oligarch, the first lady of Moscow, to Hunter Biden, three and a half million dollars.
Remember, Hunter goes on, good morning, America.
You have any experience in Ukraine?
No.
Oil, no.
Energy, no.
Gas, no.
Why do you think they paid millions?
I don't know.
Is it because your father's the vice president?
Probably.
Yeah, that's probably the reason.
Now it's Russian oligarchs.
Now it's Chinese nationals, Kazakhstan oligarchs, Ukrainian oligarchs.
They're making millions all over the place.
All the deep state operatives that were involved in the in the premeditated fraud on the Pfizer abuse, they're doing backflips today because they're all getting away with it.
This is gonna end if Joe Biden wins.
And I'm not saying he has.
I'm saying that I don't trust these institutions.
Leading up to the election, do you really believe that the big tech companies that reach billions of people would have treated Donald Trump the way they treated uh um Joe Biden the way they treated Donald Trump if it was Donald Trump's kids uh involved in money transfers of three and a half million dollars with Russian oligarchs?
This has been building.
This has been building and building and building these institutional forces have been literally lying to we, the people forever.
Now, Donald Trump ran in 2016, he said he's gonna clean out the swamp.
And for four solid straight years, there's not been a whole hell of a lot of us uh that had voices and an ability to tell truth that were willing to tell it.
That is that you that you can start there and start with why am I not surprised that the election laws in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, uh, all of the states that are now in question, they all have a let's look at, for example, Michigan, in-person voting, etc., etc.
Observers are permitted at polling locations.
Actually says it in the law, Michigan law.
I can cite it for you.
168.730, 168.733.
Observers may observe absentee voter counting board at any time during the election.
Well, during election day, post-election process, observers may observe the counting.
Post-election audits are open to the public.
Recounts are open to the public.
You know, they even have partisan observers in Pennsylvania.
Partisan observers are permitted to be present when absentee and mail in ballot envelopes are opened, and when the ballots are counted and when they are counted in-person voting.
Partisan observers may observe at polling locations and may still until the time the counting of votes is Complete.
Well, we're now getting person after person saying that that didn't happen.
Well, Hannity, you're just citing the law here.
That's what the law is.
Anyone else in the media telling you what the law says?
Does the law matter?
Does the law matter to the media?
Does it matter to big tech?
Does it matter to Democrats?
Establishment Republicans that are they're just they already have their statements written for the good of the country.
We're asking Donald Trump and all his supporters to accept the results of the election.
And that's coming.
The deep state, they're doing backflips.
They're back in business.
How you know what they do next time.
Now it it is this is where this is not in a bubble here, is what I'm trying to tell you.
And I'm trying to communicate to you that there is no fidelity to truth, honesty, the rule of law, the double standard, the dual system of justice, all of the things that there were maybe 30 of us between Congress and being on the air on my iTunes that were willing to tell the whole story that nobody else would tell.
That's a problem for our country.
You want to get now to deeper root causes of things.
This is all a problem.
And it's all been building.
And it's like you have this one united voice.
And it is bigger than just hating Donald Trump.
I've always told you it's it's about hating we the people.
Smelly Walmart shoppers, chumps, as Joe Biden says, irredeemable deplorables, bitter Americans that cling to God, their second amendment rights, their Bibles, religions.
If our institutional forces can fail us at this spectacular level, why then are some shocked that there's a lack of trust when we hear that observers of the election that are allowed by law to observe or being told they can't observe, you know, that nobody in these institutions cares.
You see how it begins to tie together.
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You know, I find this fascinating.
Again, I go back to the law.
I'm citing law.
If we can look at the laws in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, for example, and many of them are very much the same, and that is partisan observers may observe polling locations and may still until the time that the counting of the votes is complete.
Now hang on a second.
Didn't we see and don't we have evidence of poll workers papering over windows so that people can't look in?
Yeah.
Don't we have videos now of poll watchers being thrown out and then a lot of clapping?
Yeah, we have that too.
Uh you know, we have this this case.
We have a Michigan County clerk discovered a computer glitch, resulting in votes for uh that were meant for President Trump that were tabulated for Joe Biden.
Listen to this 6,000 plus vote error.
Listen.
If all this wasn't enough in Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates.
The county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.
Since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties use this same software in the same capacity.
Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots.
And these counties that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.
The people of Michigan deserve a transparent and open process.
I mean, are you as shocked as I am that this can happen in the United States of America?
Nevada Republican Party announced that they sent a criminal referral to the Attorney General Bill Barr.
Our lawyers just sent a criminal referral to A.G. Barr regarding at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud.
Nevada Republican Party wrote, We expect the number to grow substantially.
Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they move from Novada.
Washington Post reported the party's lawyers sent Barr a list of the voters identified by cross-checking voter registration names and addresses with a national change of address database.
Do you think anybody in the media cares?
You think big tech cares?
Or are they going to ban that from people from hearing that too?
Uh, which is interesting.
Then we had what happened yesterday.
We saw, you know, I had on Pam Bondi, the president's attorney in in Philadelphia, Corey Lewandowski last night, all saying the same thing.
Yeah, we weren't allowed to look at the ballots, even though the law says that partisan observers can be present.
Huh.
Well, that's the law.
Now, how would Democrats react if this happened to Joe Biden?
How would the media react then if it was Joe Biden?
You know, I it's, you know, the problem here is is that we have the knowledge, we have the ability.
We watched Rodney DeSantis clean up the mess that was the Florida voting system.
It couldn't be any more smooth.
And they do a lot of mail in in ballots, but they also do it.
They they cross-reference, they make sure it's the person at the right address with the right identity, with the right uh uh credentials to to vote, and then they cross-check it.
And then they had results.
He said on this program they were ready to give results out at eight o'clock at night.
And it took forever for that to happen.
Um, but all these lawsuits have been filed.
You know, am I suspicious that nobody's gonna care in the media?
Of course they're not gonna care.
They've at any cost, they were willing to lie to you about a about Russia collusion that didn't exist for three years and ignore the the Russian disinformation dossier that Hillary paid for that then became the basis of Pfizer warrants to spy on candidate Trump and then later President Trump.
This these are major institutional failures, and people ask, well, Hannity, you're you're sowing distrust among people.
I'm saying that if you don't follow the law, the distrust is warranted.
If you lied to the American people for years on such a spectacular level, it is warranted distrust.
If you claim to have such outrage about Russian interference and you learn about a Russian dossier and that was never verified, used to spy on a president and you never report on it and never correct your lying reporting and your propaganda against Donald Trump, who you hate every second, every minute, every hour of any day.
How can anybody trust you?
And when big tech companies step in and they won't allow Americans to even read stories about wire transfers with Hunter Biden and Russian oligarchs and Kazakhstan oligarchs and Ukrainian oligarchs and the media it will impeach a president over a phone call with one witness that says the president said he wanted nothing,
no quid pro quo, but ignore Joe Biden, admitting that he leveraged a billion dollars to fire a prosecutor so a zero experienced son can make millions.
There's something, there's no fidelity to truth.
There is nothing but a gender-driven institutions now, and they are failing.
We, the American people, it's not just an isolated incident.
It is institutional failure.
And it now poses, you know, for a free society, it is a danger.
If people have premeditated fraud against the Pfizer court, they walk away scot free, but only one person, even though there's referrals for deep state actors on lying to Congress, but only one person will take Roger Stone as an example.
You know, what's the charge?
Lying to Congress, process crime.
30 guys, tactical gear, frogman, pre-dawn raid, guns ablaze, CNN cameras are waiting.
I mean, is that is that equal justice?
Do you think that if you had subpoenaed emails yourself as American citizens, do you think that if you erase the subpoenaed emails and cleaned your hard drive and destroyed your devices, that would end well for you?
Because I don't think it would.
And this is now the problem.
You spit on the sidewalk or you jaywalk and you're a Republican, they'll put you away.
This is not now we're talking about institutional failure.
You know, there's all these suits that are here, but Americans have to have faith and competence and trust in a voting system.
And if some states can count their votes within, you know, an hour or two and get it right and have uh have full confidence in what the outcome was.
And here we are, 86% of the vote in.
You know, how many days have we been locked into 94% of the vote in in North Carolina?
How many more days is North Carolina going to hold out their vote count?
How did that happen?
You know, all that you're watching is okay, all the vote tallies come in, somebody's up by 500,000 votes.
You would think they won the state.
Oh, now they're down 13,000 votes.
And you suppose Americans are supposed to have confidence that this is being done right because that's the state that is not allowing, even after a court order, people to that have the right as a matter of law.
I can cite the law for you if you'd like.
Um in Pennsylvania, for example, partisan observers, that's 24 Pennsylvania statute 2650.
So they're actual laws that say partisan observers get to watch the vote count.
And of course, we know that didn't happen.
Look, as Americans, and this is where, you know, I really worry about the future of the country for all of us.
Um, because there's got to be some fidelity to truth, honesty, and reporting.
Uh now we have big censorship of these big tech companies.
You can't read certain things if they deem it politically.
They're going to be the arbiters of great truth in the country.
You know, but if Americans are to have confidence and faith and trust in our voting system, they've got to be open to scrutiny.
And that was not happening in many of these states, just happen to be the states in question that are still counting the votes.
Uh one state that I actually think has been doing a very good fair job with an open process, and Donald Trump has made up a lot of ground.
It's the only one, as a matter of fact, is the state of Arizona.
Uh I've been we've been following, they had almost over 600,000 votes that hadn't been counted long before that with over a million ballots.
I thought it was wrong for any call to be made.
I've been very straightforward about the state of Arizona and the president has been picking up votes ever since.
Uh chairman of the Freedom Caucus, he's out in Arizona's fifth uh congressional district, uh, Andy Biggs is with us.
You know, I I do understand that partisan observers have been invited in as they have had other uh recounts in Arizona, and that there's a lot of faith and confidence in the system, regardless of how this is going to turn out.
Am I wrong in believing that Arizona's getting it right?
Well, certainly in the counting process, we get it right, Sean.
Um attorneys, um uh part uh, you know, partisan observers are allowed in.
They they sit there closely, they're not a hundred feet away.
You haven't used binoculars, there's not barriers put up.
They're there, they're witnesses.
From both sides.
From from all parties get, you know, uh get to have have people in there, lawyers and uh just general observers.
In that sense, they're getting it right.
And um you know it's it's just taken slow, and this is uh probably a technology question for the Secretary of State.
Why do we have technology that move so slowly?
But the the transparency and openness is is been good so far.
Okay, so where are we last night?
There were around three hundred little over three hundred thousand votes left.
The president had made up more than half the margin so far.
Um I understand that uh they that the expectation is that these were they have not really started counting the day of votes and the and the day before election day that were handed off mailing ballots that people didn't send in on time, but they dropped off to make sure the vote was counted.
Uh where do you see this coming out?
I I heard the governor actually uh behind closed doors might be telling people he thinks the president has a a really good chance of winning Arizona.
Well, I do think the president has an excellent chance to win because um what what you you have left is somewhere little north of 225,000 statewide, but more than two-thirds of that's in Maricopa County, and also uh in uh many of the rural counties that support the president and came out in droves on election day.
And by the way, Pima County, which was expected to come in heavy Biden, Trump had a 5248 advantage I saw last night.
In the new in the outstanding ballots being sent in.
That's correct.
Yeah, those ballots being sent in.
There's there's 25,000 more ballots in Pima County.
But but the reality is many of these areas, whether it's the suburbs of the Phoenix Metro area or in the rural areas, they were coming out almost three to one Republican to in to Democrat.
They were coming out two to one independent to Democrat.
And uh day of voting independence are gonna break the president's way.
Um the three to one uh uh uh tail Republican to uh Democrats, that's going to break uh heavily the republic uh president's way.
That what you're gonna see next, though, Sean is going to be probably the vote of the Central Phoenix area.
That's gonna be far more blue, far more Democrat than the suburbs and the rural areas that still have to report.
Yeah.
Um now, how do you see when you look at what's happened in these other states and you see the the absolute mess that's taken place in some of these states?
What are your thoughts?
I think that definitely uh the pr the media is protesting too much, saying that yeah, that there's nothing to see here, move along, move along.
I think the president's exactly right.
You have to go through and find uh if there was voter fraud, if there was voter suppression, if there was ballot illegal ballot harvesting, if they're not following the rules, which we know they're not following the rules uh in some of the places you've iterated.
Those actually get to the election integrity issue, but they also get to skewing the election results.
And so the president is right to say, look, we're gonna have to pursue litigation here, and I wouldn't be surprised if if we end up seeing some of this come up to the U.S. Supreme Court for uh what is the remedy if the law says partisan observers are allowed to watch the vote count, but they denied the ability to do so, and they're papering over even people looking in the windows, which I don't think you can see a lot anyway.
But um what is the remedy and how where does that remedy come from?
Because you do have this whole issue of whether or not state legislators can determine that they don't believe that it's a fair count and they have the final say as I understand it according to law.
Yeah, the Constitution is pretty clear that uh the state legislators can actually to make that determination if they think that it's been hopelessly tainted and they don't use the words hopelessly tainted or anything.
So that that can happen with the state legislature and by the way, and uh it's Republican legislators, legislatures in all of these districts, uh states that we're talking about, whether it's Georgia or uh North Carolina or uh Pennsylvania, uh uh and Arizona.
I mean, the we're talking Republican in nature.
So they could say it's it's hopelessly tainted.
Of course, that would lead to further litigation.
But the the remedy is is that the election officials that are denying this, the first thing that has to happen is those people need to be held in in criminal contempt.
The court has got to say you are violating uh the law and in a criminal fashion, and and on haul them in.
But that doesn't solve the the election problem.
The election problem may ultimately be solved.
Could be solved like in North Carolina, where there was uh fraud, and so they they actually had a re-elect uh in that district.
But we hope that doesn't happen.
We hope that doesn't happen.
All right, uh Andy Biggs, 800-941 Sean uh Jim Jordan is on the ground in Pennsylvania.
We'll get an update from him when we come back.
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All right, Hour 2, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941-SHAWN.
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I'm going to get to Jim Jordan in Philly in just a second.
You know, there's amazing things.
We haven't spent enough time on it.
House the media and the House Democrats and Senate, they're stunned at the fact that Republicans picked up seats in the House, that the Republicans, this was not the year Republicans were gonna supposed to hold the Senate, and it is anticipated they obviously will.
House Democrats, they are absolutely stunned how close the election is.
They're stunned that Donald Trump won the states that he won Florida, Ohio, go through the list.
They're stunned at how quote close all of this is.
There was a caucus call of Democrats and literally livid Democrats saying that, you know, this this radical race to the left and it you know has destroyed the country.
You know, it it is amazing how they don't understand so many of we the people.
You know, over there at MSDNC, Joy Reid says the vote showed a great amount of racism in the U.S. anti uh blackness, anti-wokeness.
You know, Roswell, Rachel Matto, I said it.
I I didn't know until I tried to live it, that I didn't mean it.
Like I intellectually figured it out over we talked about it on the show, but going into last night through this that experience, oh, this is gonna be the last night, and I realized wow, there really are conservatives that that believe in lower taxes and limited government and support Donald Trump, they couldn't believe it.
One other thing I have, and I'll go into some detail on TV tonight.
If there was a report put out by the Committee of the Judiciary and the Committee on Oversight and Reform and the House of Representatives.
It's dated September 23rd, 2020.
The title is How Democrats Are Attempting to Sow Uncertainty, Inaccuracy, and Delay in the 2020 election.
And as I read through this whole thing, you know, as it says all mail in balloting, not to be confused with time-tested limited absentee balloting raises questions about the election integrity.
To begin with, states have notoriously inaccurate voter registration lists.
One estimate suggests voter registration rates exceed 100% of eligible populations in 378 counties across the U.S. As the bipartisan commission of federal election reform found voting by mail remains the largest source of potential voter fraud.
Even the New York Times and Washington Post have agreed.
In October 2012, the Times reported that votes cast by mail are less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised, more likely to be contested than those in the voting booth.
And it goes through state by state.
Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Minnesota.
I mean, they predicted all of this.
So did the president.
And so did I. So it doesn't surprise you, it shouldn't surprise anybody.
Anyway, on the ground, he's the House uh Judiciary Committee ranking member.
You remember this report, I assume, Jim, from September 23rd this uh this uh year, correct?
Yeah, our team wrote it.
Because we saw what, just like you, Sean, we saw what was coming in a hearing where we had the Postmaster General in front of the Oversight Committee back in the end of July when the Democrats hatched this plan and started implementing this plan to undermine the integrity of our election.
I asked the Postmaster General why.
Why are they coming after you?
Why are they doing why'd they pass the bill before they even had you in a hearing to to ask you questions?
The reason is they know the president's gonna be winning on election night and they're gonna try to win the election after the election.
First time in American history, you have a major political party making a decision, an active decision, putting in place a plan to win an election after it's over.
And now we're seeing it play out.
And I'm in Pennsylvania, I've been here for three days with Congressman Perry.
We uh the Pennsylvania Speaker of the House, the Pennsylvania Majority Leader in the Senate, just did a press conference three hours ago where they announced that they won a full audit of what took place because I have in my 26 years in politics, Sean, I have never seen anything so egregious as to what took place in the state of Pennsylvania.
Think about these five quick facts.
A hundred over a hundred thousand provisional ballots.
Never had in the history of this commonwealth that they had that many kind of provisional ballots.
There was counties that let ballots be cured and remedied, and other counties that didn't.
And you can imagine, Sean, which counties they allowed to be cured and fixed.
It was the big counties with all the Democrats, it was the Philippi it was Montgomery County, it was your county, it was center county.
Then they then there's the whole issue of violating the state law and the state Supreme Court said, we're not gonna follow the law, we're gonna let ballots be counted three days after the election, even if you can't distinguish the postmark.
The Supreme Court of the United States said, Yeah, but you need to keep those separate.
We now know that in certain counties that would they were not kept separate, those ballots that came in after the election.
And finally, the transparency issue.
They didn't let people come in and see them, see you see what they were doing when they were doing it, and now the damage is done.
That all happened in one state.
This is the most egregious thing I've ever seen in an election process.
But the law of Pennsylvania is clear that partisan observers are allowed to watch the entire vote count, and it didn't happen.
We have person after person saying they were not allowed to observe, being as uh put as far as 20 or 100 feet away from the ballots.
That's not observing ballot counting, that's observing some stranger work.
Does it give us any transparency?
You know what they do in Arizona?
They actually videotape it.
And anybody can watch it online.
And by the way, you actually can see it.
Um so, you know, that there's certainly ways to do it.
If you wanted to, you know, the fact that you guys predicted all of this in all specificity and detail, it's kind of eerie to be very honest.
Well, let me ask you then.
So now that we have we know that the the law, and I I'll read the law again if people are interested interested, and that is partisan observers may be present at the tabulation, canvassing, unofficial, official returns, recounts, uh, vote processing, partisan observers may observe at polling locations, may still stay until the time the counting of votes is complete.
Did that happen in Pennsylvania or was that law broken?
No, I don't think it happened.
We're getting all kinds of reports from around the state.
We we know for for the the speaker of the house told us uh read the speaker of the house's letter.
We'll make sure you get the letter that he put out where he where he laid out the concerns in this state and called for the audit.
We know that in in certain states, as I said, they were allowed to fix ballots that came in if they didn't sign it right or whatever, and other other counties they weren't allowed to do that, and the state law says you're not allowed to cure, you're not allowed to remedy a ballot.
So that we know that took place.
We've had all kinds of people testify or or or or or are give examples of that that taking place.
So that is a con again.
I have never seen anything like that.
And in the world, how do you Jim Jordan?
How does this get remedied where the American people?
I don't know, and by the way, you couldn't design as you had predicted in your committee, and I gotta give you credit because you know, you wrote this thing just in September of this year, predicting with pinpoint accuracy everything that was likely going to happen.
Now, how do you remedy and how do Americans get to the point where they can have faith and belief and confidence in the outcome, knowing that laws, if you care about the rule of law, was violated?
How do you get there?
Sean, you it was last night on your show.
Former Speaker of the House, Gingrich pointed out ballots that were that weren't segregated that were supposed to be segregated, that came in after eight o'clock on election day, as a as required by state law, but the Supreme Court over ballots that came in after election day that weren't segregated as as were supposed to be and were counted, they have to be thrown out.
There was no other way that about where on your show.
What about where votes were counted and observers as a matter of law?
Again, I'll I'll even cite the law if people are interested in it.
It's 25 PS 2650.
What about when the observers would deny the opportunity to observe in some places actually covering up windows so people couldn't even look in?
This is five again, Speaker Gingrich said it last night on the Sean Hannity show.
He said if people weren't able to observe as required by federal law, if there was a violation of federal law for a federal office, which is exactly what we're talking about for the presidency of the United States, then those valid ballots are not valid under federal law.
The speaker could not have been clear, and as you pointed out, the federal law could not be clear.
The great one, Mark Levin got this all started.
This is his wheelhouse as a constitutional attorney, reminding Republican state legislators.
He's tweeted out, you have the final say over choosing electors, not any board of elections, Secretary of State, Governor, or even court, you have the final say.
Article two of the Federal Constitution, so get ready to do your constitutional duty.
Uh, do you believe that that is happening?
If you talk to any of the state legislators in Pennsylvania, what are they planning to do?
Step one is to call for an audit to get the facts, to get the truth and find out everything that we we've seen and and things that we've heard, make sure that is accurate, get it court to say, wait a minute, we got to hold on this, and then at some point you're going to have to potentially have the uh the the general assemblies and the state legislatures say we're under Article Two, we have the ability to select the electors.
So we may get to that, but step one is to get all the facts on the table.
That's why you saw today in Pennsylvania.
The Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate say we need an audit based on the five things I just told you about.
So what is okay?
We had an audit of the deep state, didn't we, Jim Jordan?
Aren't the didn't we discover that in fact there was no Trump Russia collusion after three separate investigations?
Didn't we discover that there was a dirty bought and paid for Russian disinformation dossier that became the the predicate, the bulk of information without which Pfizer warrants wouldn't have been granted, according to Andrew McCabe and Sally Yates, uh, that was then used to spy on a candidate and then in a transition team and president.
And did anything happen to the people involved in that corruption?
Uh look, I'm as frustrated.
Well, well, hang on, Jim, because people, Americans don't don't have faith that laws apply to uh the powerful and elite equally.
So so Sean, uh I look, no one has talked about this more than I have.
There were a handful of us three and a half years ago who first said this is a problem.
It was you and a handful of others in the press, and frankly, about five or six of us in the in the United States Congress.
We've been calling for this, but in the end, Sean Hannity and Jim Jordan can't indict anyone.
Only the Justice Department can do that.
And we have been pressuring them, pushing them to do do it.
I believe Bill Barr put John Durham on this case to do that.
But when is that gonna happen?
I don't know.
I can't determine that.
That is only up to the Justice Department.
I'm as frustrated as you.
That's the number one question I get when I've I've been walking through airports, people will walk up to me and they'll simply say one sentence.
When is someone going to jail?
And I think, well, I want them to go to jail too if they if if they've done wrong, but I can't do it, you can't do it, requires the Justice Department to do it.
What does this mean?
I've been talking about institutions failing the American people, and that would be the media.
Now we know big tech, they just censor whatever they want to censor and even have liability protections from the government to do it, which is insane.
Uh educational system, we have a deep state.
I I would assume right now that about now they're doing doing backflips because they know uh all of this goes away.
But a media that would ignore the fact that Joe was weak and frail and cognitively struggling, a media that never got an answer about packing the courts, a media that never got an answer on Electoral College or DC statehood, a media that allowed Joe to hide in his basement.
Oh, this guy's a total mess, but they still supported him and protected him.
Uh a media that allowed his son to make millions and he leverage a billion dollars and they don't care.
What do Americans to think when they see this double standard, Jim Jordan?
Because I know how I feel.
Uh and it's not I don't feel I don't have trust and faith and confidence, Jim.
I don't have it.
Yeah, well, look, think about the here's the positive.
Look where you started this hour.
In spite of all that, in spite of all that, guess what?
We didn't lose one incumbent member of the House of Representatives that picked up thieves.
In spite of all that, we didn't lose the United States Senate as all those groups you just talked about said we were going to.
And in spite of all that, President Trump did amazing record number of votes for a Republican in a presidential race.
And I think that's a good question.
Jim Jordan, is there any way we will have an accurate accounting of this election based on what we know now?
Is there any possible way to get a true, fair, accurate accounting of the election?
It starts with an it starts with what we did, what what happened today in Pennsylvania.
You've got to audit what took place in the state today in Pennsylvania, and it may have to come to General Assemblies and State Legislatures selecting the electors as as as Mark Levin pointed out that the Constitution permits to happen and requires that that that under Article 2, the executive branch part of the Constitution requires that the electors are chosen by in the end, the General Assemblies in uh in the respective states.
Stay right there.
We'll continue.
Jim Jordan's on the ground in Pennsylvania.
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By the way, the Postal Service, uh, apparently political reporting, discovered more than a thousand ballots in Philadelphia facilities, 300 in Pittsburgh, that they're rushing to election officials for the 5 p.m.
Friday deadline.
Uh a little late, guys.
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What do you think the next steps ought to be for the Republicans, for the president?
Because you know what's coming next, rhinos.
For the good of the country, even if you might have won or think you might have won, you know, you gotta step aside.
That's probably we're just hours away from that those lectures coming.
Meanwhile, they didn't say a word about Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, uh Hunter and Joe, but go ahead.
No, we can't do that.
We gotta we we gotta look.
In the end, count every legitimate vote.
You've been saying this, we've all been saying this, but do not count illegal, illlegitimate votes, and we have to determine w if that was done and what those votes are and where those votes are.
So th that is just for the integrity of uh of the election process for the future of this country, the greatest country ever, that has to be figured out.
I again I keep coming back to what the speaker former Speaker De Gingrich said last night on your show, Sean.
He laid it out this is this is looks like a real violation of federal law.
This is about the integrity of our election process.
This is about confidence going forward that the American people have that their government actually does things right, actually, we have a process that is fair and legitimate.
That's what's involved here.
So no, you cannot, the president cannot these people who are saying, oh no, We we gotta uh say that Biden No, no, you have to get to the truth first, and then whatever comes out comes out.
I think I think if we just count legitimate ballots, President Trump won this election and should be the president uh in 2021 and for the next term, but we're gonna have to see.
All right, Jim Jordan, we'll keep pursuing the truth, trying to get to the bottom of it and expose the uh instances where we know things have gone wrong.
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And you hear what's happening, you watch with your own eyes.
You know, I I think the fact that I said last night, this is an amazing thing that I said, well, this is what the law is.
This is what the law guarantees.
Partisan observers may be present, the detabulation canvassing of unofficial official returns at any recount, any recanvas till the end.
And it's pretty much etched in law in every state.
And then you have witness after witness saying that they were denied that opportunity.
Um, you know, uh I at some point, and then you say, Well, then how do you ever have faith and confidence?
And the amazing thing is is, you know, America being the home of Apple, Microsoft, Silicon Valley, and states that absolutely do it flawlessly.
South Dakota's another state.
I saw Christy Gnome's comments about how they do it.
It's really easy to do an honest election.
Here's how we do it.
We learn from Ron DeSantis.
He fixed the mess in Florida.
No questions.
On NS either side about how the process worked down there.
They learned from mistakes in the past.
And then you look at the chaos, and then I look at this report from September, September 23rd from the committee of the judiciary, uh, the judiciary committee and the oversight and reform committee, and they predict with pinpoint accuracy the exact states that would have the exact problems.
It's actually eerie.
Sort of like before Katrina, the Times Picky Unit said, you know, almost 20 some odd years earlier, this is what's gonna happen if the Cat 5 ever hits.
Down to the the superdome being filmed with people and the breached l levees.
They predicted it all and they didn't do anything.
And then what do you do to fix it?
How do you remedy it?
When when things when laws are not followed.
Does anyone care is is anyone angry that I cite the rule of law and say it should be followed?
Obviously, people that didn't care about Hillary and the espionage act or subpoenaed emails or premeditated fraud on a Pfizer court, maybe I expect too much.
And that's where I keep talking about institutions failing this the people of this country is is the saddest takeaway in this to me.
Uh we've been watching out our good friend uh Burgess Owens in his race for Congress uh in the fourth congressional district.
It's been a close race, but uh latest tally I see.
How many votes are you up by now, sir?
Well, now we're up twenty two hundred.
We have another drop today.
By the way, uh it's good talking again, John.
It really is.
Well, well, first of all, congratulations.
We're so proud of you, and you're such you such a great addition.
Isn't it amazing how many seats it looks like we've added to the House?
Yeah, and we're we're still in the fight here.
We still have uh we're 2200 up now.
We have another drop, and then I'm pretty sure.
What what does another drop mean?
How many how many votes are they gonna drop?
Well and that's the thing.
We're we're from one district we're looking at maybe four thousand, another district, maybe fifteen to twenty.
So we still have uh allowed up there, and we think it's gonna be uh very surely a a recount.
So Burgess for Utah dot com because we want to make sure we have the funding to to fight against anything that we have to fight against here to make sure that's the first time.
Burgess, it's Friday.
The election was Tuesday.
Florida was able to call the election within hours uh uh you know, at nine o'clock at night on Friday, there was a done deal.
How come the how how come we ha we can't get a simple vote count out of these states?
Well, you have to understand what brings us together, what makes us the strong culture we have is confidence in our system and harmony with each other and unity with each other with uh with each other.
And what the left does, they understand doubt, divisive divisiveness, and destruction tears us apart.
That's what we're seeing this last year.
And and the the good thing, and I truly believe this, Sean.
I I uh because of my belief and we the people, you know, we began with the Judeo Christ Jero Christian values that has served us so well and brought us so many miracles.
I do expect another one that at the end of the day we're gonna get our president back in and show first of all we have a game change with black Americans, 20% of us now are leaving the plantation, thirty percent of black uh gay gay Americans, Hispanics, all the i we're showing everyone across this country that we truly do drift toward the light.
We just now I need to get them back in there, really clean house, and and and and and have have the support that he needs to make this happen.
So uh that's why again, if Burgess for Utah, for those who want to support my efforts this last few uh last few days to make sure this happens.
And I'll say this that's unfortunate.
We never I'll never know how much this impact, how close it is now because we had a Deserette News here in Utah, decided to pull my commercials the last week.
I still have not gotten an answer in terms of why they did that.
But this is the issue that we're dealing with across our country.
Things like this should not be happening in a free country when the voices of America should be heard and and and and looked at and and decide if this if it's valid or not.
But we start taking with people's voices, we have no idea what else is out there.
Burgess, you know my buddy Mark Levin.
He cited the Constitution in a tweet.
And they banned them.
Well he cited the United States constitution.
Now, big tech companies, we saw how they protected Joe and uh and Hunter in the lead up to this election.
How does uh how does somebody get to hide in their basement and not give any real policy positions on significant issues like packing the Supreme Court or DC statehood?
How do they get through a whole election and ask get asked maybe a hundred questions and everybody hides the obvious, which is he's very weak and he's very frail, and he's struggling cognitively, and they all see it, but they ignore it.
It's like this this pr it's sort of like the democratic um, you know, house protection program.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Sean, first of all, and let me say what I what I know about the American people.
Uh, we don't like bullies and we don't like cowards.
And uh and that's what we're seeing this last year.
We're seeing what it is when we have tyrannical people who hide behind their their their office or their their or their media uh uh credibility, whatever whatever it is, and they they they don't understand that what we expect is honesty and fairness.
And then uh and and so this is gonna be a good chance for all of us across the country.
The uh Republicans, the Democrats and independents we're waking up to see that we truly are not against each other.
What we're fighting against is an ideology that hates everything we stand for, and they're so blatant and uh and arrogant about what they're doing now.
There's no shame.
There's no shame with evil.
And they really think they can get away with it because they don't understand the power of we the people.
Once we understand this, and once we come to and and by the way, what makes the we the people strongest is we have a God in heaven who truly still loves us and blesses uh blesses us.
So even though we might have to be ball patient right now, I think at the end of the day we'll end up seeing more of the truth than we would have if we had not gone through this process.
So I would say hang in there, stay faithful, uh stay united.
Because I think what that's uh uh that's what they want to to take away from us and stay confident that the system we have will win in the end.
We'll come back.
We just have to now tweak it and get back to where we can have an election, believe in the in the in the results, uh be be not beat each other up because results will go our way and come back the next time to try to win if we if that's if that's what our goal might be.
All right, Burgess Owens we're following your race, congratulations so far and we'll be watching very, very closely and we'll watch the drops, you know, whatever day they may come in 15 days later.
You know that that all of this lends itself it's it takes away every American should at the end of this process and this is the sad part had confidence that the laws have been adhered to.
Well we know for a fact person after person is saying that they're not allowing what the law allows which is partisan observers to watch the vote count that's a violation of the law.
How do you have faith and confidence then in the result?
And it is sad to see and you you you literally we know how to do it right.
We know ways to do this in in an organized fashion and we know how to keep integrity of votes but they choose not to.
And when you choose not to what does that do?
It undermines people's faith in the system and trust in the system then and it's it unfortunately more institutionalized than we would like but Burgess congratulations we're watching very closely out there.
Joining us now, Congressman Dan Muser.
He's in Pennsylvania's ninth.
Well, he's not there yet.
Okay, well, I thought he was waiting for us.
800-941-SHAWN is our number if you want to be a part of the program.
I know how many of you feel.
Let me read, for example, the law in Michigan and the law in Wisconsin.
Because they all say pretty much the same thing, which was amazing to me.
Like, for example, in-person voting, they talk about that.
Partisan observers are permitted within the enclosed space for the purpose of observing the conduct of election and counting and recording and getting of votes.
Apparently that didn't happen, according to people that are on the ground in Fulton County.
You know, Michigan has pretty much the exact same laws.
Partisan observers have a right to watch the county.
Wisconsin, you know, the local canvas board and canvas.
It's open to the public.
Post-election audits are open to the public.
Vote County and observers are there.
They are allowed by law to observe the county.
these are pretty deep and profound things here.
Anyway uh joining us now is Congressman Dan Muser.
He's uh out of Pennsylvania in their ninth district.
Uh how are you sir?
Great Sean how are you?
Great to be with you.
You tweeted out that the majority of Pennsylvanians voted for at real Donald Trump.
They deserve to have their voices heard.
We demand an open and transparent process.
Governor Wolf needs to stop the politics.
Were the laws of Pennsylvania that allow partisan observation adhered to?
Yeah, we believe they were not.
We know that the province for legislation related to elections lies with our General Assembly, with our state legislature.
And the governor's office completely dismissed that by allowing for votes.
votes to be received and counted uh votes to be counted that were received after 8 p.m on a on election day so that's just that's just I mean that's a pretty big grievance and it's clearly unlawful and you know when you hear uh some news stations say let me let me just read the law okay partisan observers may observe at polling locations and may stay until the time that the counting of votes is complete partisan observers are permitted to be present when
absentee email in ballot envelopes are open and when ballots are counted and when ballots are recorded and post election partisan observers may be present at the tabulation or canvassing of official and unofficial returns and any recount or any recanvas.
Did they put paper up in some places to to stop people from even looking in the window is that true?
Yeah they absolutely did that and that's very suspicious to say the least why would they do that?
Why would they deny access to lawfully permissible um poll watchers that all happen to be Trump poll watchers or and and Republican there's a long list of irregularities as well as unlawful actions you know this one in particular allowing votes to be uh counted after eight PM Um on election night, but but also those those that were mailed.
They're even they're not even reviewing the the postage uh the postmark on there.
And then say, you know, the it was the attorney general, Secretary of State that said, Oh, we're just we're not we'll count the votes even if they didn't have a postmark.
Wasn't that stated?
It was stated.
It was stated.
And in some counties, there there was such confusion.
They were being told that they could call the voter and correct what they refer to as a naked ballot.
So some counties were doing it somewhere.
I'm sure some Democrats were doing it for Democrats.
Is it true in your state of Phil of Pennsylvania that a Philly judge election uh uh judge of elections admitted he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates?
Is it true that the city's treasurer was fired after getting arrested by the feds for embezzling money?
Is it true that the city's former congressman was indicted on voter fraud and bribery?
Um because all is that all true from your state?
It it sure is, um sadly, but true.
Is it true in your state?
The attorney general said if all the votes are added up in PA before the election, even October 31st, that Trump's gonna lose.
Yes, Sean, in a very knowingly confident, strange manner at the night of uh before any votes were were cast, the day before election day.
Absolutely.
And and our governor referred to this process as one of the cleanest, most efficient that he's ever seen.
And he's just hoping for the mainstream media to carry that water, so people might think that it's true.
But you know what?
More than 50% of the people are on to them, and we we believe that if the lawful proper votes were were counted, not the how do you now go back and justify that?
Didn't you have a secretary of state that said using the the title president before the word Trump demeans the office of the presidency and she's in charge of this?
She did say that.
She was more than uh an anti-Trumper.
She was um uh a real Trump hater, uh, and not was, still is.
Yeah.
And they're in that's who's in charge of our election process.
My last question for you is there any way that we'll ever get a true, fair, what accurate accounting of votes in the state of Pennsylvania from this election?
Well, we're certainly hopeful and with the attorneys and with the process and by overturning the unlawful act of counting votes received after 8 p.m.
If we can identify those, we won't be able to identify all of them.
How do you know what happened when the observers were not allowed to observe?
How do we know what really went on?
Well, that's very true.
That's very true.
Supposedly they were to segregate those.
So my guess is they segregated some, and there's the bottom line is we we don't really know though, do we?
Uh unfortunately we don't.
This is no longer an exact science.
It's just no longer one citizen with the vote.
We uh need to go through this and come up with the best the best.
All right, I got a roll.
Thank you, Congressman.
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You know, it's sad.
I I don't understand.
I wonder how you think back in 2016, and you remember the remember the reaction of the left when Donald Trump was announced president.
Remember Hollywood's reaction?
Had an actor go out there and start talking about when is the last time an actor assassinated a president?
What is it, Johnny Depp?
I think an awful lot about what did Madonna say blowing up the White House.
I all I hear from supporters of the president is they want the laws followed.
And I would say that would be exactly the same if Joe Biden had a lead of, let's say, 500,000 votes on election night, and that the law says partisan observers may observe a polling location and may stay until the time that the counting of the votes is complete and they weren't allowed to observe.
You think they'd be happy with the results as they watched it go from 500,000 to 400,000 to 300,000 to 200,000 to 100,000 to 15,000 to now minus 14,541.
Would they have a would they have faith and confidence?
And by the way, if you take it a step further and you look at the results, uh and you look at a lieutenant governor that referred to the president as just another internet troll.
Uh, if you look at, you know, the corruption in Philly just this year, a Philadelphia judge of elections admitted that he took bribes to stuff the ballot box for Democratic candidates.
And if you knew that the city's treasurer was fired after getting arrested by the feds for embezzling money and the city's former congressman indicted on voter fraud and bribery, uh, would you not be suspicious if you were a Democrat?
So it's important that Republican poll watchers, as a matter of law, have been there the entire time observing the process, which they were denied, as we've heard from one person after another after another.
That's not in dispute, even.
Especially since the state's, you know, top officials are openly and publicly hostile to the president.
You know, if you look at, for example, the attorney general, Secretary of State predicting that, or the attorney general predicting if all the votes are added up in PA, Trump is going to lose.
That's why he's working overtime to subtract as many votes as possible from the process.
He said that October 31st.
Pennsylvania Secretary of State, the person in charge using the title president before the word Trump really demeans the office of the presidency.
The state's lieutenant governor referring to the president as just another Internet troll and all but guaranteed a Biden win.
Thank you.
Would you would do you the question is, you know, when a state like Florida can fix its problems, and there's total faith, trust, confidence, and belief that an honest election took place.
And then you read the September 23rd, House of Representatives, Judiciary Committee, Oversight Committee on Reform, how Democrats are attempting to sow uncertainty and accuracy and delay in the 2020 election.
You read that September 23rd, 2020.
And guess what?
When you read the executive summary, everything that we're now observing in was and they mention the states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada.
They go through it all by extended mail-in voting, relax election safeguards, despite advice from health experts.
By the way, they love Fauci so much.
They forgot Fauci said, no, in-person voting is safe.
That it would be safe during the pandemic if people kept social distancing and wore a mask.
They said it would be safe.
But then everything gets changed, and tens of millions of ballots get sent out.
And Americans, then observers from one side are kicked out, and you get here cheering.
That's on videotape.
Miranda Devine is a columnist with the New York Post.
Betsy McCoy is a former lieutenant governor of the state of New York.
They've both been taking a deep dive into the corruption and mismanagement of news.
In Betsy's column, she writes, in what seems like a coordinated effort, the media told Americans not to expect a winner on election night if President Trump's ahead.
On November 3rd, we're told it's just a red mirage that will be clawed back and undone.
Well, Betsy, I don't know.
I guess you have a crystal ball that I didn't have, because it looks like everything you predicted came true.
Well, that's right, but our president has a very strong legal case, regardless of what the media are saying to the party.
The president has a very strong legal case because here's what's happened.
In the weeks and months before the election, Democratic lawyers, armies of them, went across the country and changed state election law without the concurrence of the state legislature.
They went to local courts, they went to uh uh commissions, they weasel decisions out of governors or consent decrees.
Many, many ways they changed state law to get rid of ID laws, to get rid of signature requirements, and most importantly, to get rid of that election night deadline.
So that was unconstitutional.
In fact, the court, the high court, the Supreme Court has said that in the past.
Only state legislature, Sean, it's in Article 1 and again in Article 2.
Only state legislatures can change the time, the place, and the method of electing electors for the presidency.
Only state legislature.
So in Pennsylvania, it was done by a Democratic-led uh Supreme Court against the will of the state legislature.
So now they've got ballots coming in after election night, ballots without signatures, right, and ballots without uh appropriate ID.
And uh even today, the election commissioner in Philly, Lisa Dealey was asked, Well, are you at least segregating these ballots to come in late the sub the way the Supreme Court told you you have to?
And she declined to say how many of the ballots were even in that category.
So frankly, that's a very bad sign.
Dealy and the Philadelphia amazing.
Are you suggesting, though, that the state legislature now, having been having their uh constitutional uh authority usurped by these people?
Are you saying that they have a duty now to to get this right?
They asked the Supreme Court ahead of time.
The Supreme Court declined.
Amy Coney Barrett said she wanted to wait till after the election.
Roberts, it's understandable that often the justices don't want to get involved in these election issues.
They're hoping that it will be a blowout for one side or the other, and these ballots, these questionable ballots won't count.
But it turns out that it's a nail biter.
And in fact, this Pennsylvania case is already in the Supreme Court.
And by the way, the same is true in North Carolina, and there are commonalities between these two states and other states.
So I'm telling you that the president of the United States has a strong legal case.
Miranda Devine, you've been writing some, you've been doing some of your best work uh leading into this election and before.
I gotta tell you, you're doing terrific.
Uh look at how social media, big tech, uh, literally uh censored articles from the fourth largest newspaper in America, your newspaper.
Thanks, Sean.
I I know it's incredible, and they're still doing it.
I mean, they're they're censoring the president when he raises these legitimate questions about uh, you know, whether or not this has been a legitimate and fair election.
And I think uh as I mean, Betsy's done a great job of laying out some of the issues and uh that'll go through the courts, but to have the Democrats and their pet media talk about respecting the outcome of elections when they've just spent the last four years saying that Donald Trump was illegitimate.
We had Hillary Clinton just a few days ago complaining again that she had the election Stolen from her.
And now you've got TV anchors cutting off the president when he's talking, when he's talking about these quite legitimate concerns that there is fraud that's happened around the country and saying that that he's not telling the truth and that they're baseless.
I mean, he has a strong case.
And there's a lot of questions.
Why was, for instance, counting stopped in five states?
Why were observers not allowed inside to see the counting?
If there's nothing to hide, why are they hiding?
And the problem is maybe there is nothing, you know, maybe maybe there was only a little bit of fraud.
Maybe it's not enough to turn the election, but this is a very close election.
Well, Miranda, here's the question I have.
If the law requires and allows partisan observers to watch the vote count, and they didn't well, they weren't allowed to vote the watch the vote count.
How do we ever know what really went on?
The answer is we don't.
We never will, will we?
Well, we'll need recounts, and that's happening in Georgia.
Recounts, but was there any black ballot tampering?
Do we know if if there was any ballot dumping?
I mean, what do we know?
In the Pennsylvania case, and the Pennsylvania Democrats were very clever about changing the rules, contrary to the state legislature, so that ballots could come in after election day with no signature and no postmark.
Now tell me, Sean, how useful do you think it would be to be able to count a lot of ballots that come in after the date with no postmark and no signature if you're short of ballots?
I think it would be pretty easy, especially if that was partly a part of a plan or design.
I mean, unfortunately, I mean, we can't put our head in the sand and not understand that they're people that don't have integrity and don't break laws.
I just went through the list of public officials, including a judge, an election judge in Pennsylvania, uh, you know, taking money and bribes to stuff ballot boxes.
That happened this year.
Well, the Philadelphia mayor said today in a press conference he thought President Trump should quote put on his big boy pants and concede the election.
So how can we have any confidence that the Philadelphia mayor and his election staff are counting ballots honestly, if they're demanding the president concede before the ballots are counted?
Yeah.
Miranda, your thoughts.
Well, I I think that we just need to take a deep breath and slow this down.
If Joe Biden tonight with Kamala Harris at their 8 p.m. press conference comes out and tries to claim victory, that will be very damaging to the country, but also to Democrats.
They need to understand that they are not going to be able to have a comfortable uh you know presidency if he wins, unless they convince 70 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump that their vote hasn't been cheat stolen.
And so I think both sides need to be very careful.
They need to ensure that that the public is comfortable that this is legitimate.
And you're not going to get that when you have the Philadelphia mayor, as Betsy just said, coming out and saying that you have the the uh Pennsylvania attorney general.
The um the Democrats in power in some of these states are behaving appallingly, and it's not going to help them.
I don't know if they have noticed that that the Democrats were actually delivered a shellocking in this election.
They have gone backwards in the House, they have not won a single extra Senate seat.
They are setting themselves up for the midterms in 2022 to be a bloodbath for them.
They are not going to be able to get their pet projects through the Senate.
So really, what are they getting?
It's a pyrrhic victory if they end up infuriating half the country.
Um I think uh you're both right.
We'll come back more with Miranda Devine and Betsy McCoy.
Now, at the bottom of this half hour, a Michigan GOP chair breaking news about how 6,000 votes were caught that were for Trump that were registered for Biden and the software was used elsewhere in Michigan.
Where do you hear this story next?
You can't believe it.
And As we continue, New York Postwriter Miranda Devine, former uh Lieutenant Governor of New York, Betsy McCoy.
Um, any state that changed the rules, ballot deadlines didn't allow observers.
What is the remedy?
Uh Betsy.
The remedy is to go to court.
And fortunately, in two of these major states, Pennsylvania and North Carolina, we're already at the Supreme Court.
Both of these states went to the Supreme Court and requested emergency rulings before the election to strike down these changes in election procedure that the Democrats had weasled out of state judges or state commissions ahead of time, contrary to the Constitution.
The Supreme Court declined, hoping, obviously, that they wouldn't get embroiled in an election.
But now, uh, in both cases, and probably in the case of Nevada for other grounds, we will be back at the Supreme Court.
So that's where we are.
What is your take, Miranda Devine?
I mean, when you know, when when specific laws about political uh uh uh uh uh partisans are allowed to observe and they're not.
How do people walk away with the the feeling that this was free, fair, and and has integrity?
Well, that is exactly the problem because it's more than just winning an election by the data.
You have to convince the people that it was a legitimate election.
Otherwise, how can you govern?
And I think there are so many problems caused by Democrats with the election process.
I do not understand why voter ID is even controversial.
That just should be um it just automatically simple, by the way.
You need voter, you need a picture ID to get into the DNC.
You know that.
I mean, everyone has a social security number, you know.
But they it's not as if people uh have care that much about their privacy in America.
Everybody is able to be tracked.
So why is it that the one area where you're not tracked is in the most important function that you have in a democracy, and that is to vote.
And the other thing is ballot harvesting.
You know, there are different rules in different states.
In some states, it's okay to have, you know, up to 10, and some it's three.
Obviously, uh it just seems circumstantial evidence is that ballot harvesting was occurring on an industrial scale in these democratic enclaves.
And they used the uh the cover of COVID to change rules and to uh gather up these law these votes.
All right, thank you both.
Miranda Devine, Betsy McCoy, thank you.
When we come back, oh, you're not gonna believe what we're about to play for you.
You're gonna meet Laura Cox and what she broke about how the tabulation was so off in Michigan.
Wow, it'll blow you away.
25 till the top of the hour.
Uh best election coverage available on your radio dial as it continues.
We can't if we don't get this straightened out.
The American people cannot have faith and confidence in elections.
Now many states got it right.
Look at all the states that didn't.
The very states that were predicted in the September 23rd uh Judiciary Committee, Oversight and Reform Committee report how Democrats are attempting to show uncertainty inaccuracy and delay in the 2020 election.
Amazing.
With pinpoint accuracy, they predicted all of this.
It's scary actually.
Um this is going to blow you away.
And we played it earlier, but I'm going to play it again if you're just getting in your car.
Uh there's a Michigan County clerk.
Her name is Laura Cox.
And she, God bless her, caught a glitch, uh a glitch in tabulation in the software.
So they hand counted votes and found that the glitch caused six thousand votes to go to Biden and Democrats that were meant to go to Trump and Republicans.
Forty-seven Michigan counties used this software.
Now, there's one particular guy, Oakland's uh 15th Congressional District, uh, and you got uh a representative there representing Rochester and Rochester Hills, and they initially gave a hundred and four vote margin win to the Democrat.
104 votes.
The Republican, you know, it's was an incumbent, Andy.
I don't know how to say his last name, uh Coca Duffer.
Uh anyway, he said, I thought that was it.
The results were the results, and I would not seek a recount.
104, which is surprising in and of itself.
Anyway, what a difference a day makes as uh the 15th district election, uh uh Oakland County Commissioner.
Then what happens is he gets stunned yesterday when a call from the Oakland County's director of elections uh flipping the outcome.
Apparently there was a technical glitch in Rochester Hills, and I actually ended up winning by a little over eleven hundred votes.
The margin was one thousand one hundred and twenty-seven.
Wow.
It flipped a house seat.
Listen to what Laura Cox, and we're going to talk to her, had to say.
If all this wasn't enough, in Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000-vote swing against our candidates.
The county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.
Since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties use this same software in the same capacity.
Antrim County had to hand-count all of the ballots, and these counties that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.
The people of Michigan deserve a transparent and open process.
In one county, 6,000 votes went to Biden that were meant for Trump and Republicans.
47 counties in Michigan used the software.
Laura Cox, by the way, I got it wrong.
She is the Michigan GOP chairwoman who broke this story and found this tabulation.
Can you explain this to me?
Well, thank you for your hard work.
Well, thank you for having me on.
Yes, I was in the war room uh in our state uh right by our state headquarters, and you know, watching as the votes were coming in, keeping closed tabs.
We had some, you know, obviously had people across the state watching as well, and there was a irregularity that they looked into, and it was obviously a 6,000 vote swing, and it's a smaller county, and it was very concerning to uh our folks, and so we looked into it, and this is how we discovered um that there was a discrepancy.
So we we kind of dug a little deeper and found out that it was from a uh interface software that helps them put the vote totals public um on their website, and it was a glitch from that.
So we looked at the coun the the company and then we looked on the company's website, which proudly showed that they uh are have clients in 47 counties of our 83 county state, um, which had some even more concerns.
So we are obviously very concerned um with that software being used, and that that would be problematic in any vote totals across the state, but it was just very uh noticeable in this small, very rough.
Okay, let me ask you.
So when you do how did you figure out that there's something off, and tell me the exact process you used to discover this glitch.
Well, we have people, like I said, across the state watching different key counties as the votes the votes were coming in, and we noticed that this is a very Republican county, and the and the uh votes were not what we had um forecasted, what we had thought what we would need to be needing, and it was very irregular.
Um, so that's why we dug in a little deeper.
This would be a very difficult process to do in much larger counties where we had much more narrow vote goals to make.
So this was happenstance, which is kind of opened up a can of worms that we are now collecting information and trying to make sure that we can uh check with all these different counties to make sure that there weren't any irregularity.
And then you gave the other instance where uh the gentleman was told he was an incumbent, uh, not an incumbent anymore.
And then, of course, oops, sorry, uh, we had a tabulation error, and now you are you did win.
So, um, you know, happy for him, but again, that's a roller coaster, and we're just concerned about making sure that we are hearing all the information about possible fraud, incompetence, or issues with uh issues with um the uh the the software that's being used to make sure that all the votes are counted fairly in a transparent way and make sure that all the legal votes are counted.
Now, have the other 46 counties uh gone through the due diligence that you've gone through?
Well, I that's what we're working to make sure that the word is getting out that we're expecting that to happen.
That's what we're asking them to do.
Um, you know, listen, we want to make sure that all the votes are counted.
That's why we have a uh website.
Uh it's called Save Vote at M I G O P dot org, or they can call 87 say vote um to tell us of any instances where they think that there's some issues or concerns, and right now we're plowing through the votes, um, trying to make sure that uh we are matching what we would expect to be the vote totals and seeing if we see any irregularities ourselves throughout the 83 counties.
Based on the such a dramatic vote swing in your one county alone, and it the same software is used in 47 counties.
Now, has the computer software company admitted that that glitch was in existence?
And if it was work if it the glitch existed on your software, uh it makes a lot of sense that it could very well have impacted the other 46 counties.
Has anyone gone to court and and have the court demand that that this glitch problem be uh that there be a mandatory uh recount in all those 46 counties and a mandatory examination of whether or not the vote totals are accurate and true?
Well, as I gave you for the example of Antrim County, they had to hand count their ballots to make sure that every co every vote was uh tabulated properly, and we are now um collecting information, we're combing through our um information, down drilling down to the different precincts to make sure that we are looking for any glitches.
So we're right now in the investigation process and we're continuing to talk about it to make sure that we are getting the expected transparent and secure election that the people of Michigan expect.
What I would be concerned about is you know, any manipulation of of any of the machines is there, any uh observers that uh make sure that this can't be tampered with in the interim.
Well, that's one of the things that we're talking about and working with folks.
Um right now we're in the canvassing process and we're having difficulty getting our volunteers in to be able to observe the canvassing process.
So we're talking about that.
We had this press conference with RNC chairman uh today, Ronald McDaniel, and to talk about the different instances where we had even in our poll challengers having problems in the city of Detroit, the largest uh vote counting area in the state, and how we had intimidation, harassment.
Um we couldn't fill all our slots, they wouldn't let us if somebody left, tag somebody else in.
Um they were cheering.
Wait, wait a minute.
I I have Michigan law in front of me, Laura, and says that elections are supposed to be an open process to be observed by any interested person, any interested person, that there are election challengers, poll watchers, uh, and that the challengers have greater access, then that would be you in this particular case.
Observers may observe the absentee voter counting at any any point, any time during the uh the election day, uh post-election.
Observers may observe the counting post-election audits are open to the public.
Recounts are open to the public.
That's all Michigan law.
I can cite it for you.
Uh 168-730, 168-874, 168-733.
Should I keep going?
No, you don't need to, because I agree with you, and I know we legally had the opportunity to be able to uh challenge, and it was absolutely uh a terrible situation.
Like I said, there was harassment, intimidating volunteers, wouldn't let us keep our our number of volunteers in the room when somebody had to leave after maybe being there 20, 30 hours.
It was awful.
Um, you know, the the Secretary of State said that she would uh promise a transparent election to the people of Michigan.
That's how she got elected, and she absolutely didn't deliver that.
Um it's you know, they put uh boarding up on the windows so people couldn't see into the county boards as well.
Um I mean, and you see videos of that all across.
It was absolutely unbelievable what we've experienced here in the city of Detroit, and we have an incident where a whistleblower, we referred uh this whistleblower's uh case, their testimony to the U.S. attorney for possible criminal uh investigation.
Have you is that but the but the idea who is making this call that keeps people out when as a matter of law, I'm reading the law.
I know Michigan law.
I know I have it right here in front of me.
I agree with you.
It was the election workers.
Um and they were directed by state and city automatically.
Are you videotaping them not letting you in?
Yes, we have uh video tapes of that.
They kicked out lawyers, it was uh they locked somebody in uh in a closet for 20 minutes.
Um says they're not allowed to do any of this, Laura.
I'm reading the law.
I know, and that's what we're gathering our information, and we're sharing it with the campaign so that that we we can make some decisions on how we're gonna proceed in the legal process.
So right now we are we're encouraging people to share their story with us.
We'd like to get affidavits so we can send that information to our legal team so that they can assess it and that campaigns can make their decisions.
How do people based on what you're saying?
We're I'm I'm citing the exact statutes of Michigan law that allows people in, and you're telling me that they're not being allowed in, and then that gives them more time alone with whatever what with whatever machine software is whatever.
So, you know, maybe maybe it's just my nature.
I grew up in New York.
I just am a trust but verify guy, Laura.
You know, just if the fact that they won't even allow uh follow the law that allows you to observe tells me that there can only be nefarious uh intentions behind that.
Yes, I mean that's that's exactly what we're looking into.
We believe that there are possible incidents of fraud, or maybe it's just sheer incompetence, but the the testimonies that we've received so far that we're forwarding to our legal teams um are very uh gregarious at best.
I mean, they're just really uh seriously uh shocking stories.
And like I said, you could see um City of Detroit um employees boarding up the windows.
I mean, what are they trying to hide from the people in Michigan?
It's just absolutely wrong.
Uh well, I uh we're gonna show all of this tonight on Hannity.
I want you to explain this in great detail, and the country needs to uh understand.
Um I do applaud you for finding uh all of this for sharing it with us, and I'm very sorry that you're you know that all of these voters now uh are not gonna be able to have confidence in in the system.
Uh and I think that there's got to be some re remedy, and I hope that your lawyers are able to uh chronicle all of this and show all of this to the courts and hopefully the right decision is made.
But thank you for sharing it.
Great job catching this.
Thank you, Sean.
Thank you for having me on.
All right, we'll have you on TV tonight as well.
We'll be able to show people nine Eastern Hannity on Fox News.
Unbelievable.
What an incredible story that we just heard from Laura Cox.
She's gonna join us on Hannity tonight.
The great one, Mark Levin is going to explain election law, the constitution, the role of state legislators.
Uh what do you do when laws were violated in terms of yeah, observers uh partisan observers are permitted to watch the counting and they're not allowed to watch the counting.
We have Jim Jordan, we have Matt Gates, we have Rick Grinnell, Laura Cox, Ronna McDaniel, Dave Bossey.
We're loaded up nine Eastern Hannity, Fox News.
Uh it's very disheartening.
But keep fighting.
We'll continue.
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