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All right, it's two weeks from today, our 14-day countdown now, until you, the American people are the ultimate jury, 800 941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program, which makes it even more spectacular that Joe Biden, you know.
All right, let me let me backtrack here and go very slowly through this.
Joe Biden, half the month of September, has called a lid on campaigning at 9, 9 30, 10 o'clock in the morning.
When you say a lid, that means telling the media you will not hear from us.
We will not make any news for the rest of the day.
All right, that it that's almost half the month of September.
Here we are, just 14 days away from what is by every account a tipping point election.
Joe Biden was off Saturday.
Joe Biden did one event Sunday, took one question from a CBS reporter, got very hostile about zero experience hunter, um, gave a hostile answer smear campaign.
He's he's not gonna get to the end of the campaign and not be asked that question.
Peter Biden 50 response to the New York Post story and all your sponsors.
I know you'd ask it.
I have no response.
It's another smear campaign.
Right up your alley.
They're the questions you always have.
Yeah, that's CBS is always a smear campaign network.
That's who they are.
Um, and then the the tougher question, of course, what what kind of milkshake did he get?
One vanilla, one chocolate was his answer.
Now, they've made a decision, so he's off Saturday.
He works one event on Sunday, he's off Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday to prepare, I guess, a reset his clock, probably, so that his greatest cognitively aware hour will be 9 p.m. Eastern on Thursday.
There is if you look at running a campaign 101.
This is Rule 101.
You go out and you campaign.
You ask people to vote for you.
You make news, you are visible, you're out there fighting for every American and their vote.
Now, say what you will about Donald Trump.
Nobody is going to outwork this man.
He's been out on the campaign trail.
He's still out on the campaign trail, and he's not getting off the campaign trail.
He's now talking about four or five events a day.
And if you look at it, the crowds are massive.
He did, you know, huge crowds yesterday in in Prescott, Arizona, and Tucson, Arizona.
Uh he was out all weekend long since he got out of COVID.
He's been doing, on average, at least two a day.
And you got these massive crowds lining up wherever the president goes, even in the liberal left-wing state of California.
Did two stops in Nevada, where he had a massive rally, one of them in Carson City, two stops in Arizona with two rallies, one as I said, in Prescott, one is in Tucson.
The president is now back with a rally in Pennsylvania today.
And his chariatric opponent is missing in action hiding.
Now, the campaign now to make this historic and unprecedented decision.
They've they've had to make a calculation here.
That is the price higher for the Biden campaign to allow him to go out and campaign.
What is the greater risk to the campaign?
Is it to go out, meet people, ask for votes, be visible, make news, or is the is it a better strategy to avoid the possibility of him having more cognitive meltdowns and let him stay in his basement bunker and go over his talking points for the debate that he will be involved in on Thursday night.
They've made they've made a decision here.
It is It is breathtaking to me.
It would be front page news.
Donald Trump in hiding.
Donald Trump playing golf.
Donald Trump bowling.
Donald Trump sleeping.
Donald Trump Hokoko.
Donald Trump napping.
He's not even showing up on a Zoom call that we know of.
He's doing absolutely nothing, which is an unbelievable story not being covered by anybody in the country.
Now, Rich Lowry had a really good column about this on National Review.
He said, Never before have the media been set been so openly fearful of asking or reporting something that might hurt a presidential candidate.
And what are supposed to be the animating values of our adversarial press informing the public, getting answers, holding the powerful to account, have all been subordinated to the protection racket that is any coverage of Joe Biden, particularly well written, Rich Lowry.
Even the lowest common denominator of news simply being interested has been tossed aside.
Boring, uneventful, is the new newsworthy.
And hiding in a basement is not even questioned by anybody except for maybe us, which is, you know, in and of itself, it speaks volumes.
I mean, here you got a story with more mysteries, more plot lines.
Take the New York Post story out of this for just a second here, where Joe Biden, you know, with the emails now corroborated and confirmed by other news outlets, that in fact he did know more than he said about his son's business dealings.
But Ron Johnson's report, uh, he did have business dealings with China, a hundred thousand dollar shopping spree for Hunter and his family with Chinese uh national.
He did have a Russian oligarch, the first lady of Moscow, and a wire transfer of three and a half million bucks.
He did have a wire transfer with a Kazakhstan oligarch uh as well.
He did have other dealings as well as Barisma.
Uh Mark Meadows saying that there's more information coming out, might include other countries like Romania and elsewhere.
But I mean, to think that, you know, you've got emails putting Hunter Biden and his sleazy overseas dealings where we're talking about, you know, in the case of the Bank of China, a billion and a billion five.
Uh, is that the reason why Joe Biden had no desire whatsoever uh to shut down the virus and called the president's travel ban, which likely saved hundreds of thousands of lives, you know, hysterical xenophobia and fear mongering.
It's unbelievable.
Now, something that always seems to happen.
The media likes to deflate people's enthusiasm, but then all of a sudden they get nervous.
All right, how wrong do we want to be this year?
Not that they really seem to care because they were wrong for four years about their phony Russia uh Trump uh collusion conspiracy theory or the other hoax or the Ukrainian hoax or whatever other propaganda lies.
Uh Investors Business Daily, the TIP survey has now come out and it now shows uh a two-point race with Biden and President Trump.
Uh, and that is, you know, literally at this point, a dead even match.
Um you've got the uh this group called the Tefagler Group, which is run by this guy Robert Cahaly, and he also did a I guess a podcast with uh Rich Lowry as well.
Um they're the people that actually called it right.
They predicted in 2016 that in fact Trump would win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
There's I don't think there were many others doing it except for maybe Matt Towery.
Uh right now, the later Tefalgar group polling predicts another win for President Trump in the upper 270s to low 280s in the electoral college, which to me I interpret as way too close in this podcast that he did with uh Rich Lowry.
He predicts that the president will win.
Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, Texas.
He said things are tighter in Wisconsin and Arizona, and he says the president uh does have the lead, will probably win Arizona in Michigan, where John James, by the way, has a slight lead.
John James can win this race in Michigan.
Uh He's saying that a combination of John James's strength and contempt for Governor Whittless Whitmer and her COVID response and her job killing Green New Deal and the Trump economy will propel people to win.
Remember, we're going to get third quarter news on the economy coming in very shortly before the election.
And we're expecting there was one, I think it was the Atlanta Fed predicting over 30% GDP growth for the third quarter, which would shatter all past records.
Real clear politics is now showing a dramatic shrinking in all the key battle states, battleground states.
A lot of this is even lower than where they had President Trump versus Hillary Clinton back in 2016.
I'm not saying to take anything for granted here.
I'm just saying that my read of all of this based on, let's see, them being wrong with the exit polls in 2004, 2016, all the 2016 polls that were wrong.
I'm saying don't let these polls influence you one way or the other.
Just assume that your vote will tip the balance in your state, and you better get out and vote if you don't want this most radical agenda implemented in this country.
Pennsylvania we see now that this is becoming a dead heat race uh the ads now running in Pennsylvania by the Trump campaign are devastating calling out Biden and Kamala Harris for outright lying as it relates to wanting to ban fracking um And I think that a lot of this, even the politico is reporting that the instruments that we have to gauge this race, the polling predictive models are built around, quote, unquote, normal elections.
And this is anything but a normal election, said one Democratic operative.
I believe that's true.
That's why I've been saying to anybody that will listen, nobody knows the outcome.
The only thing I can tell you that is true is you will determine the outcome.
Now we have all of these powerful forces, including the presidential debate commission.
They've now joined forces to stack the get the deck against Trump.
They only picked Democratic, you know, socialists to be the moderators, apparently, in these last two debates.
Uh now they change the rules unilaterally before the second debate.
We're going to make it a Zoom debate without even consulting either campaign.
Now they've decided they're going to have their mute button when each candidate gets their opening two minutes on any given topic.
Uh and then, of course, we have somebody that loves to apparently has posed with pictures with Obama and Biden and has a pretty and oh, and was caught on tape, I guess, with Jennifer Palmeri of the Clinton campaign saying, I'm going to hear the questions I'm going to give you.
Unbelievable.
Um, another thing that nobody's paying attention to, the economy is beginning to surge.
And we're on the a couple of things are happening.
We're on the verge of a vaccine announcement from one of any of these Moderna, AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Johnson, you know, all these companies now are really right there.
So that's coming.
We now have the new therapeutics that the president said that will be mass-produced, the same treatment he got and will be made widely available for free.
That's a big point.
Uh, this breaking single family home building for the month of September just came out today, cementing the housing market's status as the star of the economic recovery thanks to record low interest rates and a migration to the suburbs and low density areas as Americans seek more room for home offices and schooling.
But anyway, the commerce department today reinforced expectations that the economy rebounded sharply in the third quarter after suffering the deepest contraction in the last 73 years in the second quarter.
Anyway, uh single family home building, the largest share of the housing market jumped a whopping 8.5% to a rate of 1.108 million units last month.
That's a lot.
And housing reports following data show an acceleration in retail sales and growth estimates for July, September uh quarter as high as 35.2% at an annualized rate, which would recoup roughly, you know, 70% of the lost output because of the pandemic.
I mean, this is massive numbers that you're not hearing about.
But now You've got big tech companies, you got the media mob, the 99%.
Then you've got the Democratic establishment, the Rhino Republican establishment.
Any and all of them have gone all in for all things Democratic Socialists and will even protect Joe Biden.
If Joe Biden wants to hide for five out of six days in his basement bunker with just 14 days to go until a presidential election.
Something is not right here.
No presidential candidate hides in his basement for a week with 14 days to go.
It just doesn't happen.
There's something wrong with him hiding.
I don't know what it is, and I'm not going to venture a theory or hypothesis.
It just doesn't happen.
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All right, 14 days, two weeks from today, you're the ultimate jury.
There is a lot at stake.
Look, this is my honest take for anybody, and I always want to be honest with you, my audience.
This is a unique election.
It's happening during a pandemic.
It is we we've never seen the outside forces making these what I would argue are in kind donations, the mob, the media, 24-7, all hatred, all things Trump.
Then you got big comp tech companies now censoring any stories that would be negative to the Biden campaign.
Then you have a corrupt debate commission.
Then you have, you know, obviously a corrupt Democratic Party establishment.
They just hate Donald Trump.
And I don't see any love for Biden.
Then you have Rhino Republicans and the and the millions they're pouring into this race.
And then you see on the other side, you see all of this enthusiasm for Donald Trump, no enthusiasm for Joe Biden.
Nobody in the media will hold him accountable for the corrupt business dealings of zero experience hunter.
No, nobody's holding him accountable.
I've never seen anything like it.
Nobody in the media is saying you can't hide in your basement with two weeks to go before an election for an entire week and just drop off the face of the earth because obviously something's going on here.
And it's all happening.
And then you have pandemic issues, and some people they the Democrats' whole strategy has been to blame Trump.
Meanwhile, if we follow Joe Biden's plan, uh there never would have been a travel ban, and hundreds of thousands of more Americans would have contracted the virus and died.
And that barely has even come out in the campaign.
Joe Biden's not being held for his inconsistent statements, nor is he being held for his Bolshevik Bernie uh Biden economic plan or his association with AOC and the Green New Deal all on his website.
And people just either hate Donald Trump or love Donald Trump.
It seems like that's what it comes down to.
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Two weeks from today, election day in the USA.
If you think Facebook has been bad enough along with Twitter and these big tech companies, I mean, it is it's it's you can't quantify what the amount of money this represents in terms of a donation to the Biden campaign by suppressing legitimate news stories.
You know, like for example, you know, why isn't the New York Times, well, maybe they don't like the New York the New York Post story.
What about the Grassley Ron Johnson report?
Ron Johnson will join us at the top of the hour with an update on all that he's found.
If it was one of the Trump kids that was going on, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in shopping sprees with Chinese nationals while their father's president or vice president, do you think that one story alone would be a big deal?
If if Don Jr. or Eric Trump or anybody with the last name Trump, you know, Donald Trump's president, they got a billion dollar deal with the Bank of China.
Do you think it would be a big deal?
And then it becomes a billion five.
And especially if they had no experience in private equity or finance that we can find at all.
Do you think if a Russian oligarch, I thought I thought the mob and the media cared and so much, and Democrats cared so much about Russian interference, and you got wire transfers showing a Russian oligarch, the first lady of Moscow, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow, and you have, you know, bank transfers and the to the number of three and a half million dollars.
You think the mob, the media might be screaming bloody murder about it every second of every day.
Because this is now what's happening.
They've put a lid on covering anything that represents the Biden family corruption team and the millions of dollars that are at play, or a Kazakhstan uh oligarch and wire transfers with them, or the Ukrainian uh oligarch, or the business deal in Ukraine.
It never did make sense, did it, that the call with Zelensky and President Trump led to impeachment and then led to a trial, which led to, by the way, the Democrats not talking about COVID nineteen, although now they would have you believe they would have done everything that Donald Trump didn't do.
The whole list of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden is everything Trump did months ago.
You know, missing, of course, the travel ban, which Joe was referring to as xenophobia.
But yet that travel ban, how many we can't calculate how many Americans did not contract the virus.
Uh Facebook isn't even gone as far.
Now remember, they're not even allowing the news to be to be consumed by the American people where they can make their own decisions.
Facebook is still trying to tamper to me, it's tampering with the election.
The same with this the same with Twitter.
They have chosen sides here.
Caught censoring the New York Post's Hunter Biden bombshell.
Okay.
How about the the Senator Johnson Senator Grassley report?
Now we have uh uh allegations that they are censoring reports of violence against Trump supporters.
Fox News.com covered it.
A woman who marched at a pro-Trump rally in Washington, DC claims Facebook took down her entire account after she posted about being, you know, uh assaulted uh by it during a woman's march by activists.
Anyway, an outreach director for Republicans said she was demonstrating outside the Supreme Court building to show support for Amy Cody Barrett, said an older woman approached her, tried to take away her Trump twenty twenty flag.
By the way, this is this is not the only story.
But censoring the Biden story, all of these countries, all during the time Joe is vice president, now email showing Joe did know and lied when he said he knew nothing about his kids' business dealings.
Uh now we got pictures, imagine what a picture of the Trump kids with a crack pipe in his mouth.
You know, you think you'd get a straight up denial.
That is a doctored photo.
That is not true.
We can't even get to Joe Biden, and when the media does get to him, they're too busy asking hard-hitting questions uh like what flavor milkshake he's buying.
But the biggest shield that these tech companies have is called Section two thirty, which is a federal law that shields social media companies from liability that would otherwise reshape or crush their business models.
And more and more people, by the way, have just had it.
They're just leaving, you know, Facebook and Twitter.
And we have Parlor is the this new site that I know Dan Bangino is a part of.
And I don't blame people for leaving.
Now, I do think that these companies have a right to take down racist material or any type of threats that are made.
I think they should probably follow court precedent on those issues.
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater type of thing.
One big question, I think it was the who was it?
Um maybe the Federalists somewhere, is big tech breaking campaign finance laws.
In other words, can this be viewed as in-kind donations to the Biden campaign?
I think that's a real question.
You know, what I'm talking about with this election 14 days out is really powerful.
I mean, you're talking about billions of people that through social media, big tech companies, that are being told what they can and cannot read, what they can and cannot see.
They're making editorial decisions that benefit one candidate over another candidate.
In other words, they've chosen sides.
Well, that would be a donation on their part to the one campaign.
And I think everybody in this program is hip enough to understand that if they were doing it to support Donald Trump, that the mob and the media would be raising holy hell.
The only problem is the mob and the media, they're doing the exact same thing.
Because for the last four and a half, nearly five years, every second minute hour of every day they've hated Donald Trump.
By the way, we have new documents that have come out.
Just two weeks to go before election day, Democratic Party's attempt to cover up the Hunter Biden laptop scandal is becoming unraveled.
Now remember, neither Joe nor Hunter has questioned the authenticity of the incriminating documents on the laptop.
Now, if you're innocent of something and somebody says, hey, I have this, is it true?
You would come out with a strong denial, usually followed up by a cease and desist letter from an attorney, a prominent attorney.
That means business.
In other words, the information you have now been put on notice is inaccurate and it is false, and it is defamatory and it is libelous.
Now, if you get a letter like that, you begin to think seriously that, well, maybe this person really is a victim in something here.
We haven't gotten those denials yet.
Now we need to know well, what did Director Ray know, as Ron Johnson has been asking?
Investigators now have a copy of the computer repair shop work order.
Apparently signed by Hunter Biden.
Needless to say, nobody from either the Biden campaign or the Biden family is is questioning the authenticity of Hunter's signature.
Apparently Hunter's lawyer, according to now numerous sources, has put out, you know, letters to the company repair shop and to Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, and I guess Steve Bannon may have gotten one of these.
He's been involved in this apparently from the beginning some way.
But anyway, documents obtained by Fox News, Fox News Fox News News Division, appear to show Hunter Biden's signature on the paperwork from the Delaware computer repair shop where the former vice president's son dropped off the laptop that included the emails related to his overseas business dealings.
It's called the Mac Shop.
Now the question is, okay, well, why is the lawyer for Hunter Biden asking to get his hard drive back?
Does that not in and of itself authenticate what's on the hard drive?
Anyway, it's going to be interesting to find out.
Um Twitter and Facebook is basically censored the New York Post and their story.
And they've made a decision.
And the rest of the media mob is pretty much called a blackout on all of this.
This is again more of an in-kind donation to all things democratic socialists than to protect Joe Biden.
Mark Meadows said on my show last night, uh, and he said on the Fox Business Network, that some of the monies appear to be flowing to the Biden family, broadly came from Romania and Ukraine, and we already know about China.
And documents show uh the signatures I just pointed out.
House Republicans are urging the attorney general to appoint a special counsel to probe these latest revelations.
Ron Johnson will join us at the top of the hour.
He's been pressing the FBI director, Director Ray, what he knows about all of this.
One thing the director of National Intelligence has said, John Ratcliffe, he said Hunter Biden's laptop emails are not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.
Oh, that was a lie that they fed us all throughout the 2016 campaign and then beyond.
And the only Russian interference that we ever found was Hillary Clinton's dirty bought and paid for Russian dossier.
The one that was unverifiable, and the one whose source was a known Russian operative to the FBI for 10 years.
And they knew that in January of 2017, and they continued to use it as the bulk of information for their Pfizer warrants.
They also know that this Russian contact of 10 years and Russian source of 10 years also denied anything in the in the steel dossier was true.
And yet again, they continued to use it, without which, according to McCabe and Sally Yates, they never would have gotten their Pfizer warrants.
Back in 2008, Obama campaign denied Biden vote influence by payments to Hunter.
Now the question is what Joe Biden has got to do about his son Hunter before the debate.
Now, they tried to change the debate rules also.
This is another problem we're now facing.
And that is the debate commission.
I mean, it's pretty pathetic.
You know, the first they unilaterally change the debate rules, and they say, no, we're going to make it a virtual debate for the second debate without consulting either campaign.
That ended up in no debate, competing town halls.
And now the third debate, they've decided to change the topics last minute, and then they decided to put a mute button on while one person is giving their opening two-minute remark on any of the given topics.
And on top of that, the next thing is now apparently, just like in the second debate where we had a former Biden intern talking to our friend Anthony Scaramucci about what he should do about the president criticizing him.
Well, now we find out that the MBC News moderator, Kristen Welker, I've never I've never heard of her before, to be honest, is not only, you know, took her dad to the Obama Christmas party in 2012, but her family has dished out tens of thousands of dollars to Democrats over the years, including Joe Biden.
Good grief.
Debate Commission says they will mute Trump and Biden while the opponent talks.
That's not a debate, that's a joint press conference.
That's obviously they're running interference.
Anyway, the states that I see now coming into play that really matter the most for Donald Trump to win this election.
Pay attention, whatever state you're in.
Let me tell you how this has to go down.
He has to win Florida, he has to win Ohio, he has to win Georgia.
North Carolina is a lot closer than it looks like it was in 2016.
If you're in North Carolina, pay attention.
Arizona, if you're there, it's closer there as well.
Iowa, very, very important if you want Donald Trump re-elected.
Now the president can compete in Nevada, and apparently is.
That's a state that can flip.
Then the president, you know, now Republicans are running ads all over Pennsylvania, rightly so, showing Joe and Kamala Harris saying that they will ban fracking, which is a big part of the state's economy.
Anyway, so Pennsylvania, you get that in the win column for Donald Trump, and he will be re-elected the 45th president of the United States.
Uh Pennsylvania, you can win it all.
Michigan can win it all.
To Fogler has now the president up in Michigan.
We have Pennsylvania closing into a very, very close tight race.
Wisconsin matters.
Minnesota could be in play.
You never know.
It was very close the last time.
Then you look to play in Nebraska too, Maine too, and New Hampshire.
That's it.
That's what that's how the game has to be one of your Republican.
It's never easy.
Is it doable?
Absolutely it's doable.
Can we predict?
I think this is probably the most unpredictable campaign.
You know, that we've ever seen in our life, the most unconventional as well.
But I've never seen forces so aligned against one candidate than this one.
And I'll tell you what it is.
I think they just hate that Donald Trump has exposed all of them.
I think this is what draining a swamp looks like.
And now that the water's gone and that, you know, black, gooey, disgusting swamp water and mud and muck coming to the surface.
I never thought it was this bad.
I never thought the deep state was this corrupt.
I never thought the mob was this corrupt.
Never understood how big tech was this corrupt.
Never understood how how you know people that called themselves for years, moderate Republicans, they're not moderate at all.
They vote for a uh a weak, frail, cognitively struggling socialist radical because they don't like a more conservative Donald Trump who has an unorthodox style.
Unbelievable.
America, you decide.
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Glad you're with us, 800 nine four.
One Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, you can almost sense and feel a massive momentum shift in this election.
You could see that big tech companies censoring uh media negative media stories against all things Biden family business, uh now beginning to resonate, whether they like it or not.
You know, it's interesting, as hard as people try to hide things, it usually just makes people more curious.
Breitbart has put up, apparently, I have not independently confirmed it, uh, a photo showing Joe Biden meeting with Hunter's business associate in Kazakhstan.
Uh a lot of what we know, uh, we gotta give props and and credit to Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Charles Grassley, their eighty-seven-page interim report that they put out that has identified uh business relationships not known previously.
We know some of them, um, but for example, with Russian oligarchs and Ukrainian oligarch and uh oligarchs and uh Kazakhstan oligarchs, uh shopping sprees with Chinese nationals, the the first lady of Moscow in a wire transfer of three and a half million dollars and a Kowzik oligarch transfer,
again, doing business with zero experience hunter, Hunter has no experience in private equity, no experience in oil, gas, or energy, no experience uh with any of these countries that we're mentioning.
Mark Meadows brought up the issue of Romanian may be coming into play as well.
We'll find out in the days to come.
Uh and uh Senator Ron Johnson joins us now.
Senator, welcome back to the program.
I I wish everybody in America would take the time to read your eighty-seven-page report, because it's shocking uh beyond belief.
And now that we have some evidence emerging that Hunter Biden in fact uh was using his father as a contact or a point of contact and offering meetings with uh foreign nationals uh as a means of uh getting business deals done is uh beyond compromising to me.
Yeah, the uh you know, the computer that now is surfaced, you know, from that computer shop owner, and together with these the Gmail account of Bevan Coonin's Cooney, which was uh Devin Hunter's or yeah, uh Devin Archer's uh business partner, it's just providing a treasure trove.
And you know, Sean, if if just if this just was a one-off, if there's just one business deal, you uh kind of bad judgment.
There are so many of them.
I mean, this is a real pattern.
And we're we're really looking at three distinct scandals here.
You get you got the scandal of all these financial and international entanglements of the Bidens, okay, the Biden's profiting off the Biden name.
But then you have the scandal of the suppression of the of this enormous news story on the part of Facebook and Twitter and the news media in general.
And then of course you have the scandal of the withholding of information, the the the deep state, these agencies that first of all are not providing the documents that Senator Grass and I have requested that are slow walking this past the election combined with uh just the for example the the computer the FBI held December of two thousand nineteen, right in the heart of the whole impeachment issue.
Uh th this computer obviously has relevant information that that the impeachment trial in the Senate against the president of the United States and the FBI just sat and said nothing, didn't tell anybody about it.
I know that so there are three seconds.
Have we been able to confirm that Director Ray had this hard drive of Hunter Biden all that time?
Well, again, we we've seen news reports where there was a grand jury subpoena issued, and that's what the shop owner said.
The the FBI picked it up in December 2019.
Now, the shop owner, you know, once he you know downloaded that information to try and recover it to put on a different device, according to his story, uh he he probably inappropriately looked at these things, but he saw what he had and he wanted to get rid of it.
It sounds like he offered this FBI, but they didn't want it.
But some sometime in the November December time frame, they realized they did need to look at it, and so they subpoenaed it through a grand jury.
Now, I I don't know why that is.
I mean, the the FBI is not giving us they're not being particularly forthright yet.
That's why I sent a letter on Sunday to get more information out of the FBI.
Hopefully they'll I I gotta tell you, I've been very disappointed with Director Ray and his lack of urgency to clean up the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
I have great respect, Senator, for special agents and FBI uh we have we have the greatest law enforcement in the entire world.
We have the greatest intelligence agencies in the in the entire world.
Uh and we learned during the the whole Russia collusion that wasn't Russia collusion, except for Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian misinformation dossier that was never verifiable, yet used to spy on a a president and a presidential campaign.
Uh there was no Trump Russia collusion, and this country was dragged through hell over it.
We were dragged through hell on an impeachment over a telephone call, uh, while simultaneously we've got you know Joe Biden bragging on tape that he leveraged a billion taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor fired who was investigating his son who's being paid millions from a uh gas and energy holding company uh with no experience.
I mean, uh you can't even make this up in a spy novel.
No, let's face it, just a fraction of this was attached to the Trump or the Trump family.
This would be front page news on in every newscast, if every newspaper in America, and yet they're suppressing it.
And of course, Sean, you realize I got so frustrated with the Director Ray and the FBI not complying with our our oversight requests.
I issued a subpoena to the FBI.
The the the documents were due, and these documents that the uh uh Inspector General had for his report.
They should have been readily available.
Those were due August twentieth.
We granted two extensions to September 30th, and we still don't have probably the bulk of the documents we requested from the FBI from the intelligence community.
We Chuck Crassley and I, the present pro tem of the Senate, the chairman of the finance committee, former chairman of the judiciary, we can't even get the director of the CIA to call us back so we can ask her, you know, what's the hold up on these documents?
So why why would Gina Haspel not respond to a Senate request?
I I I thought we had something called checks and balances, Senator.
Well, and she she made a big deal in a confirmation hearing that she absolutely agreed with with the uh congressional oversight.
Transparency was the key, and we we we just mentioned that in our letter, reminding her of that, and you know, come clean and give us these documents, and we l we have not got squat and like you say, we can't even get her to give us a phone call.
What uh look let me just digress for a second here.
You this is not your first rodeo.
Uh I've been on the radio since Ronald Reagan was president.
Uh not that I want to give away my age, Senator, because I look so much younger on TV, but um so I've watched a lot of shenanigans go on in all the years I've been doing this.
Did you ever s you ever think we'd be in a time where we have a presidential candidate that has all of these questions that is not being asked any of them?
Um, and takes off uh on Saturday with just 17 days to go before a campaign, does one event Sunday, and then decides with 14 days to 13 days, uh I'm sorry, 15 days to go to take off Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
Um, what is going on here?
Because to me, my interpretation is that they've had to make a decision in the Biden campaign that it would be worse for Joe Biden to go out, campaign, meet people, ask for votes, then the political image of him hiding in his basement bunker.
Nobody would ever do this.
What the hell is going on?
Well, I grew up in the age of of uh the Watergate scandal, you know, Woodward and Bernstein, you know, these intrepid reporters just digging for the story to reveal the truth to the American public, you know, nonpartisan, just trying to dig up the truth.
If that was ever true, those days are long gone because it really started with the takeover of our university system by the radical left.
So they control college of journalism, of law, of education.
So they control our culture, and it's being revealed now what the effect of that is.
So we've had journalists.
They're all they're all leftists, they're all progressives, and they are in the tank for the Democrats.
They are part and parcel, they are the mouthpiece.
They carry the water of the Democrats.
And they have declared after Trump uh got elected, they said, Well, we have to drop any pretense of of unbiased because this guy is such a threat.
We got to do everything we can to bring this guy down.
That's what they've done.
And the people in the agencies have done the same thing.
I mean, start thinking two weeks after President Trump took office, conversations with the Prime Minister of Australia and the the uh president of Mexico were leaked to the press two weeks.
And then of course you have Colonel Vinman leaking the the Karl Winski.
Who who does the who can the president trust these agencies?
That's why I mean so much sympathy for President Trump doing an almost impossible job, and he doesn't know who he can trust in these agencies.
It's sad.
I mean, I'm really worried about the future of our country in 14 days as election day.
In your report, you chronicle and you lay out in great specificity and detail the business dealings of Hunter Biden, Devin Archer, this guy Cooney.
Cooney's in jail.
He's now turned over his 26,000 emails to Peter Schweitzer.
Uh we now have this this hard drive sitting there, which would contradict what Joe Biden has said publicly.
You know, you and all sorts I've I've been briefed on what's in it.
I've not been able to independently corroborate it, so I'm withholding what I've been told until I can get more confirmation.
But it is all horrible.
But in your report, you have corroborated.
You have identified uh what what is an a family enterprise of money making with China, Ukraine, Russia, uh uh, Kazakhstan, and elsewhere.
What have you specifically discovered?
Well, uh, you know, what we lay out is we we lay out the web.
But you know how difficult financial crimes are to prove.
You know, the their shell companies.
It's it's difficult.
You know, I was our reports criticized because we didn't prove anything illegal.
That's not our job.
You know, that's the job of prosecutors and department of justice.
Our job is to provide oversight, gather information to inform public policy, but also to inform the public.
So I've readily admitted, you know, that our report raises far more questions than it actually answers.
But you know, unlike the press says, oh, there's no wrongdoing.
No, there's all kinds of evidence of all kinds of troubling wrongdoing, but it needs to be further investigated.
And you know, what what one thing that of all the questions if I could ask Vice President Biden?
Uh one thing that's being overlooked.
We've just got some emails.
You know, Devin Archer now has been his convictions have been reinstated.
Remember that was vacated By a judge who just happens to be married to uh a man who served on uh Mueller's special counsel team and also was lead prosecutor in Paul Manafort.
You can't make these connections up.
But Devin Archer's now convicted felon.
He's convicted of a crime, a fraud that was perpetrated between 2013 and 2014.
That's the exact time period when they set up this conflict of interest in Barisma, and Devin Archer met with Vice President Biden in the White House five days before Vice President Biden went to Ukraine and was named the face of the Obama administration for policy toward Ukraine.
The question I would want to ask the vice president is why did you meet with Devin Archer?
Who, by the way, the day after uh vice president was there, uh Devin Archer joined the board of Borisma.
You know, a few weeks later, Hunter Biden joined the board, but now we're finding out that Hunter Biden might have had been on the board before Devin Archer met with the vice president in the White House.
What did you meet with Devin Archer about?
What did you talk about?
Who else was in that meeting?
Those are the first questions out of I don't know, hundreds out after the vice president.
Why did you meet with Devin Archer, who we now know is a convicted felon perpetrating a fraud on a tribe during 2014 when you met with him?
I always thought I I have not been impressed with Director Ray.
I don't see any urgency to clean up the world's premier law enforcement agency.
Gina Haspel, I I've known, you know, going back a ways to be very heroic in this country in the in the aftermath of 9-11.
I'm a little surprised she's not being responsive.
Um, and I I think that has to change, especially because she promised such uh transparency during her confirmation hearing.
Uh you're doing a great job, Senator.
Uh will Donald Trump hold the great state of Wisconsin in 14 days.
Boy, I when you take a look at the enthusiasm.
I was I was with him in in Janesville on Saturday, through the roof.
And by the way, those rallies, those are a celebration of people for freedom for individual liberty.
They love America as their president does.
Those things are a blast, but based on that enthusiasm, he has to win Wisconsin.
You've known Joe Biden for years.
All this stuff is all this stuff will be buried forever, Sean.
We'll never get to the truth.
That would be sad.
You've known Joe Biden all these years.
Does he seem weak and frail to you?
Because he does to me.
Listen, it's sad.
He's showing his age.
There's no doubt about it.
You know, he is not the Joe Biden that I've met even a few years ago.
He's just simply not.
And you see those compilation videos of his infirmity, it's it's sad.
I don't take Joe in that, but he does he never should have run for president.
He never should have run.
All right, Senator Johnson, thank you for all you're doing.
We appreciate it.
We'll stay on the story when the mob is ignoring it and big tech is ignoring it and suppressing it.
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Glad you're with us 25 till the uh top of the hour, 800-941 Sean, our number you want to be a part of the program lying hiding Joe Biden.
Who takes off the half the month of September in the middle of a presidential campaign?
Who takes off five out of six days with 14 days to go?
Who does that?
There's something that has got to be so deep that is going on here that is, and of course, the mob, the media protecting it all, that they just it if the choice is letting Joe go out and do campaigning or hiding Joe and hiding Joe is the better answer, it just scares the crap out of me, is what they really know.
Because this is not the way you run a campaign.
It is not.
Well, let me hide in the basement and I'll see you in five days.
Uh I'll put on a lid, uh, a lid on everything at 9:30 every morning.
Unbelievable.
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One of the more frustrating things is we never got to the bottom of what has happened in 2016.
And now we have these big media conglomerates, the media mob themselves, social media tech giants all trying to censor the Hunter Biden story.
Even with all of that, the story is now getting out in terms of Hunter Biden capitalizing off his father.
Emails now, the Biden campaign is not even answering questions.
Okay, did Joe get a cut of the money as it relates to Russian oligarchs, Ukrainian oligarchs, uh Kazakhstan oligarchs, uh Russian nationals, chazak nationals, Ukrainian nationals, Chinese nationals.
How do you get three and a half million from a China a Russian oligarch, First Lady of Moscow, and nobody cares if you're a Democrat?
When all we heard from years was Trump Russia collusion.
The only collusion was Hillary's dirty Russian misinformation dossier that was used with funnel money through a law firm to an op research firm to an MI6 guy named Christopher Steele who hated Donald Trump, who then used as his main source, a guy that said none of it's true, but was also known to our FBI as being a Russian contact for over a decade.
And they still went further with it.
How did nobody get indicted in that so far?
When you look at what is at stake, the the promises being made by Kamala Harris, the promises being made by Joe a few times he's out there, the Bolshevik Bernie, Joe Biden manifesto, uh getting rid of fracking,
getting rid of fossil fuels, higher taxes guaranteed, power grabs, such as packing the court, uh, then amnesty, DC, Puerto Rico statehood, four Democratic extra senators to to, in their minds, give them a Democratic Senate in perpetuity.
15 million people that get amnesty, I guess they'll be told, well, we expect you to be loyal to the Democratic Party.
We're giving you something of great value.
All of this is happening in this two weeks from today, America will be deciding at the polls with over 30 million Americans already having voted.
I mean, it's getting that crazy.
We are up against institutional forces.
We've never had this aligned against any one president, and that is the media mob, 99% of them.
Then we have the Presidential Debate Commission.
Now they're aligned against Donald Trump.
Now we have the Democratic Party and all things Democratic Radical Socialists.
They're against them.
Then the Rhino Republican establishment party, they're against all things Donald Trump.
The only thing that can stop this and the push towards socialism and the new Green Deal and false promises and guaranteed poverty and weakness abroad is going to be you.
You are the ultimate jury, and it's two weeks from today.
Somebody that's been in the forefront of getting a lot of the information that we otherwise wouldn't know about all the corruption of the deep state is uh our friend Tom Fitton.
He's the president of Judicial Watch.
He's been doing this for three decades now.
He has a brand new book out, and uh, it's called The Republic Under Assault, the Left's Ongoing Attack on American Freedom.
It's uh out today in bookstores near you, Amazon.com, Hannity.com.
Uh, but he goes into great details and chronicles.
Uh a lot of these institutional forces that I've been telling you are lining up against the president using every single dirty trick they have, and they're protecting a weak, frail, cognitively struggling candidate in Joe Biden.
Tom Fitton, how are you, sir?
Hey, Sean, good to be with you again.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for being back.
Let's talk a little bit about these forces, because they're real.
I mean, um, if you look at Tefagler and the polls that he that he's been putting out, okay, it's a close race.
Everybody else has it just like in 2016.
Joe Biden's running away with it.
Uh, here you have big tech now, these social media companies with Section 230 liability protections.
They're out there deciding what content Americans see and what they don't see.
Um then you have the the media mob.
Their toughest question for Joe is what kind of milkshake did you get?
Which they did ask over the weekend the one day he ventured out of his basement bunker.
We got a lot of forces against this president.
Yeah, and I think there are two categories of forces.
You've got the socialists, obviously, who don't like his deregulatory agenda, his tax cutting agenda, things like that.
That's the type of thing that conservatives are used to battling here in DC.
But you've got this terrible corruption here in Washington, D.C., the swamp.
I don't even think the president fully understood when he came to office.
And I and I, you know, it's one thing to know that Hillary Clinton was on the take.
Now we know it looks like the vice president was on the take as well through uh his cash machine that he was running out of the vice president's office.
And they came in, this president, uh asking tough questions about Hillary Clinton.
They needed to freeze him from being able to do anything, and that's why they assaulted him with the Mueller operation, these Russia gate smears.
And then he said, Well, what's going on in Ukraine?
And by by gosh, we knew there was corruption.
But I'm sure Sean, I mean, did you think that it was as bad as we're now learning?
He was on to something.
They were willing, and now we know why they were willing to blow up the Constitution, assault our Republic, as the book says, it's because of the gargantuan corruption scandal around Joe Biden.
Well, I mean, it's the the amazing thing about the impeachment thing, and I I do think we need to get an answer as to when did Ray get a hold of this Hunter Biden hard drive, assuming he has it, and if he had it the whole time, that would be to me, you know, I already have my own reasons thinking he ought to go anyway, because he's not doing his job, which would be to clean up the world's premier law enforcement agency.
So now we have this this whole controversy, you know, about him.
But, you know, we had Joe on tape bragging, Tom.
He was bragging how you got six hours, you're not getting a billion in loan guarantees of U.S. dollars unless you fire a prosecutor, Victor Shokan, who we know now was investigating zero experience Hunter.
You know, Joe Biden lied when he said Hunter didn't get three and a half million from the first lady of of Moscow, this Russian oligarch.
We also know he got a uh, you know, a transfer, wire transfer from this Kazakhstan oligarch.
We know Ukraine, along with Parisma, there's a fortune.
Chinese nationals, the 1.5 billion dollar deal with the Bank of China.
Imagine the last name here is not Biden, but Trump, I think these forces would be dead set against and be covering this night and day, day and night, and calling for impeachment and everything in between.
That's how corrupt they are.
That's right.
And and President Trump came into office uh where and he made sure that uh foreigners wouldn't be able to uh dissuade him or his family by restricting business deals abroad.
What did Joe Biden do?
His son was flying all over the world.
We have documents showing 400 trips domestically and international.
He flew to 29 he flew to 29 different countries before he gave up evidently his Secret Service protection.
Then we don't know what he did.
I mean, just compare and contrast.
And you know, as head of judicial watch, I'm not telling you to vote for or against anyone.
But I am not going to stop talking about the corruption of a political figure simply because they're running for office.
That's what Hillary Clinton wanted us to do.
That's what Joe Biden wanted us to do.
And in my view, put putting on the political analyst hat, uh Sean, this is like 2016 again.
Remember, we came up with those documents about pay-to-play and the State Department scandals with Hillary Clinton in August.
She was off the campaign trail for a month.
I don't understand.
I I do understand, uh, but we have these major corruption issues breaking, and Joe Biden's nowhere to be seen.
It's uh I if I were a Democrat, I'd be very nervous.
If I were if if I were an honest Democrat, I'd be uh thinking a little bit of a lot of people.
Why would a Democrat be nervous?
Joe Hiding apparently is working if you believe the polls.
Well, I don't necessarily believe the polls.
And when you see the Washington Post talk about the Democrats uh thinking it's 2016 um all over again, it's a suggestion that they may be thinking that uh they may think that this corruption once again is coming back to bite them.
Well, I mean, it's so deep the corruption and the amount of money.
I mean, uh, you know, it's every single contact Joe had, Hunter was there and taking full advantage of.
And now the emails, which by the way, the emails have now been independently corroborated by Fox News and elsewhere, uh, besides the New York Post.
But look at the report of Charles Grassley and Ron Johnson start there.
They they mention the nationals, Chinese nationals, Russian nationals, Ukrainian nationals, Kazakh nationals.
Mark uh Meadows mentioned last night that Romania may now soon be part of the equation, and that there's a lot more in terms of details coming out.
Have you heard any of the specific details that we might be hearing about?
I haven't.
And I think one of the key uh aspects of the scandal that need to be answered by Joe Biden uh sooner rather than later, is that uh the the strong suggestion in the emails by Hunter that uh this money was meant in part for Joe Biden.
Did he get money from Hunter Biden?
When did he get the money?
How much was it?
Did other family members like his younger mother brother also spend money on Joe Biden?
That's what the email suggests.
That uh Hunter was complaining about having to uh raise money for the family.
It's even in the Washington Post, Ignatius, David Ignatius, the liberal raw ed writer for the Washington Post, he has Hunter Biden being quoted as saying he has to has to raise money for the family.
No one else in the family has money.
Who else is in the family but Joe Biden?
Is he the big guy?
We need an answer to that.
Toot sweet.
Well, we need an answer to the big guy question because apparently money was put in holding uh into Hunter's account for the big guy.
Who else would be the big guy in his life?
Now, his two other partners, one Devin Archer's awaiting sentencing, and this other guy Cooney, who's Peter Schweitzer's been all over, is in jail himself.
Nobody seems to be willing to go over the trial transcripts except for Peter Schweitzer, which has Hunter's name all over it.
Uh, but the bottom line here is that massive amount uh amounts of money were made off the Biden name, and Joe just pled complete ignorance.
And now there seems to be evidence uh showing that in fact he knew the whole time.
Yeah, I mean that that's uh well, you know what's interesting, uh Shaw?
This came up in the impeachment hearings.
Anyone who was paying attention, you would have seen that the Obama State Department, the Obama White House, was very much aware of the Biden Ukraine issue.
He was briefed on it.
There were concerns raised internally.
So the idea he didn't know about it is baloney, and of course, Hunter immediately contradicted Joe's uh comments that he didn't know about it because Hunter said he talked about it with him, and and Joe said, I hope you know what you're doing.
Good point.
Uh congrats on the new book who's been a friend of the show for a long time, our friend Tom Fitton, Republicans under assault, the left's ongoing attack on American freedom out today, bookstores everywhere, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, and all of those Freedom of Information Act requests uh have shed a lot of light on information we otherwise wouldn't know.
And we hope you uh continue your good work.
Thanks for being with us.
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So when we come back, ask yourself a question.
How much is there any way that you could calculate the amount of money that the mob in the media by running defense for Joe Biden and protecting all things Biden and keeping Donald Trump on defense for four straight years?
Can you could you ever monetize or put a monetary value on how much it is they're donating to all things Democratic Socialist Biden Harris in terms of the ticket?
Now, if there's a controversy involving, let's say President Trump, even phony conspiracy theories like he's had to face on Russia, Russia, Russia, or Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, or whatever.
Can you put a monetary value on big tech deciding that they're not going to run anything?
Now, one one story about Quid Pro Quote Joe's Zero Experience Hunter, Russian oligarchs, um, Ukrainian oligarchs, Kazakh oligarchs, Chinese nationals, shopping sprees, millions of dollars, wire transfers.
How much is that?
Can you put a monetary value on it?
And is it an in-kind donation?
Anyway, we'll get to that and more.
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So we got all these big tech companies.
How do you possibly monetize what it is that the media mob is donating in-kind donations to the Democratic Party by just ignoring zero experience Hunter and the millions of dollars cashing in on his dad, the vice president, and now emails emerging suggesting that Joe lied to us and he knew all about it and Hunter doing all of this without any experience at all?
I mean, when I say no experience, I mean no experience.
How does somebody get away with no experience in any of these countries?
Because that's what we now have before us as a country, and that is somebody that was making millions and millions of dollars and even a billion dollar deal with no experience.
Now, is there any anybody you know that has that kind of cushy life or cushy deals that you know Hunter had no experience in Ukraine and yet he made millions?
No experience in oil, gas, energy, he made millions.
He had zero experience in Russia, he made millions.
He had zero experience in China, his initial deal was a billion dollars, became a billion five with the Bank of China, deals with Chinese nationals, Hunter Biden and family shopping sprees.
Zero experience in any foreign or domestic investments or private equity.
The only experience he has is his father was the vice president, and he's getting millions of dollars.
Imagine if it was Trump.
Now, why is this important?
Well, could somebody then be compromised in terms of oh, well, we gave your family millions of dollars.
Are they buying access?
Is it pay to play?
Could it even go as deep as one of the reasons that Joe Biden, you know, thought that the travel ban from China was hysterical xenophobia and fear mongering was because of Hunter's billion five deal with the Bank of China, and he wanted to keep good relations with the Bank of China because this was good for the Biden family corrupt business.
I mean, it makes you wonder.
And then you have big tech companies, they make decisions for you.
And that is that no, we're not gonna we're not gonna run with this story because we think this might be fake news.
We've decided.
Now, they've never apologized any of them for all the fake news stories about Trump Russia collusion.
Now, Ted Cruz has taken on Google and big tech companies and Twitter and Facebook and says they are abusing monopoly power and becoming more brazen.
And by the way, the protections known as Section 230 that remove liability issues from these big tech companies, uh, should be removed, and I think that's gonna happen.
So you have the, for example, there was a story out today.
Where did I see it on the hill?
Chinese citizens watching President Chi delivered important speech this week, not far from Hong Kong.
The whole speech President Chi apparently is ill, and every time he went into coughing spasms, China's state media would cut away so that he was shown only in perfect health.
Wow, sounds like a lot like the media in this country, not what's happening to the media in this country.
Anyway, Craig Marshall, civil liberties attorney, serves as senior advisor of internet policy at the American Principles Project, also special counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
He's testi uh testified plenty of times before committees, House and Senate constitutional issues, as well as uh the FCC.
Will Reinhardt is a senior fellow uh research fellow for the Center for Growth and Opportunity at Utah State University.
All right, let's talk about these big tech companies, but also Craig, maybe you can explain what Section 230 protections are and and why these companies, if they once they begin to edit content out, they deem uh inappropriate but they're doing it with a political through a political prism.
Uh they ought to lose the liability protections that are afforded them as platforms versus being like a newspaper or news organization where they don't have such protections.
Yeah Sean, you put your finger on the problem here.
Section 230 uh was generated back by uh in 1996 by Congress and then it had good intentions at the time.
You know, the uh the worldwide web was pretty young by then and they didn't want these new burgeoning internet sites that were starting up to be swamped with lawsuits uh like an ordinary publisher would be so they said look we're gonna give you a special deal we're going to make you immune from almost all lawsuits though that's a huge government benefit obviously um but we're doing this so that you can number one patrol your own sites to keep pornography
and and the harmful stuff away from kids so you got to screen that out uh and also you have to have a wide platform of diverse opinions you know don't be involved in censorship but it it it was giving them the discretion to decide how they were going to do that.
Well they breached their deal Silicon Valley uh number one has allowed all kinds of harmful stuff for minors on their sites but uh equally and almost worse is they've censored viewpoints that they don't like.
Mike, you know, the world famous economist Milton Friedman wants to come in America.
In America, monopolies almost never develop unless government has handed some industry some very special benefit.
In this case, the special benefit was 230.
I mean, there's no way that we could there's no way we could monetize just how much money that that Joe Biden is being given in terms of an in-kind donation for his campaign with a mob at 99.
The 99 percent of the mob produced.
protects him and then you've got big tech companies running interference for him if there's any negative story.
Yeah I mean how do you put a dollar amount on a rigged election in terms of their deciding how much information America gets and by the way we all get most of our information now not from newspapers uh off the newsstands but online and there are only there's five giants here Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, Apple, that are deciding almost all of the information we're going to get ever about important election issues and they're deciding winners and losers.
What's information and what is disinformation and if it's the latter they're going to suppress it.
Well Reinhardt are they breaking campaign finance laws I uh once I did a favor from my buddy who's running for Congress and I just put a link to his website up on my website and uh the head of the Democratic party in New York tried to make an argument that I was making an in-kind donation.
Can you believe that?
Uh that is actually kind of surprising.
But going back to the Section 230 stuff that uh that we were talking about I mean one of the big questions that I think that we have to ask is whether or not if we got rid of these Section 230 protection, whether or not these large tech companies would really feel the pressure all that much, right?
They've got a lot of lawyers.
They can deal with these these sorts of lawsuits.
My worry is that the small small companies right you know you're looking at at small alternatives like parlor and Substack and they deal with those sorts of lawsuits and that's that's the kind of the the the tricky thing about Section 230 reform and really this overall conversation.
These big guys really can they they've got the the the resources to deal with these problems.
So I'm just I'm I'm a little hesitant So ba basically you're saying is they feel they can act with impunity and they don't have any fear because they can fight back and they can afford to stay in the courts for decades.
That's what you're telling me.
I mean, they probably could.
But we also see that consumers are pushing back pretty handily.
I mean, your viewers, your listeners do this as well.
They push back.
They talk to people at Twitter.
It's not as though we saw even with Twitter with the New York Post article, there was this kind of back and forth that happened throughout the day, for example.
They said first off they weren't allowing people to post it, and then later they allowed people to post it.
It was because of this sort of back and forth kind of market that I think exists still very importantly for consumers to you know voice concerns when they've got concerns with these large platforms.
It's not the perfect solution but I think it's probably among the best.
Well the first thing you got to do is take away the the Section 230 protections.
How easy would that be to get done?
But I guess the Democrats probably want them to keep it because all they're doing is helping their cause.
I mean they've got an agenda they're an extension of the Democratic Socialist Party.
They're state run big tech, and they're protecting all things radical socialist and all things ever weak, frail, and cognitively challenged Joe Biden.
And they're now going out and attacking Donald Trump and all things Republican or all things conservative.
So I mean it's extremely one-sided, and you can't calculate the amount of money because they're uh it's I it's it it is the biggest donation ever in the history of any campaign period end of sentence, Craig.
Yeah, it it is.
But let me go back to Will's point.
Uh he brings up a great question.
All right, practical matter, you know, how can we possibly fight these giants uh if we uh uh completely revoke 230?
Uh I think the answer, and there's a number of pieces of legislation, as you know, Sean, you talked about them on your show, uh, that are pending right now.
But there's one coming down the line, uh, according to my insight information, uh, that's going to be proposed in Congress very soon, and it's it it would target the big five, basically, not by name, but by definition.
Uh these monopolies of Facebook, Twitter, Google, app, Amazon, and Apple, they would be subjected if they continue censoring viewpoints the way they are, they would be subjected to private action lawsuits by individual citizens uh for suppressing their viewpoints, and they'd have to uh uh uh dole out huge amounts of damages for each incident of censorship.
We know it's out there, it's happening.
If we empower the American people to go after these five uh companies, and by the way, uh, you know, a lot of people, you know a lot of conservatives, and I understand this, are wary of plaintiffs' attorneys, right?
But I'll tell you what, you give a a carrot in front of a plaintiff's attorney to sue these companies, and you will have lawsuits that will correct their behavior.
Well, I think the lawsuits at some point there's got to be accountability here.
Quick break, we'll come back more with uh Craig uh Parshall who's with us, Civil Liberties attorney, senior advisor on internet policy at the American Principles Project, special counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
Also with us, uh Will Reinhardt, senior research fellow, Center for Growth and Opportunity, Utah State University.
What do you think of these new platforms that exist?
For example, I don't uh if anyone has as a content provider, or if if you are Parlor is like the new Twitter.
Oh, yes.
And and we're on it too, by the way, and I urge people to get on it.
But they do have rules that will like if you're a Nazi or a racist or a pedophile, you know, I'm trying to make the most obvious cases that they they obviously don't want that content on their sites.
So there's got to be a certain amount of leeway and discretion, right?
How do you thread that needle?
Yes.
Yeah, here's here's what they've done right.
They haven't really come out and said it, but I've analyzed I'm on Parlor.
They have about a million some uh followers, and of course, Facebook has billions around the world.
So that's that NASCAR race, you know, uh Facebook is law is laps ahead of parlor.
Uh that's why they ought to be subjected to lawsuits, but not parlor.
But what they've done at Parlor is basically followed First Amendment principles that the federal courts and Supreme Court has laid out that everything is fair game except a limited number of exceptions, like incitement to violence, like uh fighting words, uh like truth threats.
Uh all of those exceptions could work to eliminate the stuff you're talking about, Sean, but leaving the vast majority of honest, legitimate, lawful opinions that might be politically incorrect, but not illegal, and certainly not hit the the exception.
But Twitter, look, I can tell you that we'd approach it.
Pretty hideous, personal, despicable, even lies have been told about me on Twitter, and then there's a group of people that are just bored in their underwear in their basements with nothing to do all day that you know spend all day making memes that even if they're about me are actually pretty funny, and I can laugh at it.
Um but but then you've got you know this dangerous side, for example, remember the anarchist cookbook that was published and released years ago, you know, teaching people how to build bombs for crying out loud.
Uh you know, I have a I have a hard time with publishing that kind of information.
Yeah, and I think it'd be covered.
Uh and obviously there are adjustments between a public park under the First Amendment and uh these platforms.
But with adjustments to the vast scale of the technology that's involved, certain adjustments of those exceptions to the First Amendment, uh, I think lawyers could Get together and work that out along with policy folks and these computer geniuses.
The problem is the computer geniuses never went uh to history class about the founding of our nation and the and the what the First Amendment was supposed to be about.
Granted, it only applies to government censorship, but the Supreme Court's made it pretty clear.
If a media company gets so big it controls and chokes off information, it basically has a chokehold on information for the American public.
Then it's an antitrust issue, then they could be sued and should be sued.
Yeah, and and you know, we'll have to see how all of this plays out.
Uh very, very informative.
Thank you both for being with us, 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Uh, let me tell you, don't think this is we're 14 days out of a campaign, and unilaterally, you have these big tech companies that don't want you to know the truth of what is a massive unfolding pay-to-play scandal involving the Bidens.
Now, you know they would never treat Donald Trump the same way, ever.
And you know, you know, Ron Johnson, for example, tweeted out as as we talked to him earlier in the program today, you know, that Devin Archer, just like the other partner of Hunter Biden, is a convicted felon now.
And new emails from an independent source show that he and the co-conspirators plan to put some honey from this scheme in Hunter's pocket.
Isn't it time that somebody asked Joe Biden these questions?
Now we have a debate commission, they're also corrupt.
We have what, an MBC reporter that loves taking pictures with Obama, whose family is a big Democratic doning uh donating family.
I mean, anyone have any problem of any of that?
Or Senator Johnson uh asking Joe Biden why did you meet with Devin in the White House April 16, 2004, five days before you went to Ukraine, and six days before Devin Archer joined Barisma's board.
Who gets this kind of money from people?
It's pretty unbelievable.
All right, 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of this extravaganza, we'll continue.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
By the way, one thing not reported by many, Fox News did have it at Fox News.com.
Biden campaign facing a backlash.
They have an ad depicting a Michigan tech CEO as a struggling bar owner.
In other words, they put a TV ad out depicting a Michigan bar owner struggling to keep his business afloat during the uh pandemic.
The ad though fails to mention that the guy actually is a wealthy tech investor who made contributions to the former vice president's campaign and supported uh Michigan governor, uh shut down Gretchen uh Whitmer in her stay-at-home orders and kept business shuttered longer.
Anyway, the ad was posted on YouTube on Thursday and aired on Sunday on during NFL Games.
It features this guy, Joe Malcoon is his name, who is listed as the co-owner of the Blind Pig, a once popular bar and music venue in Ann Arbor.
And uh he blamed his his business economic turndown on President Trump's and President Trump's COVID-19 response.
And for 50 years, the blind pig has been open and crowded.
Right now it's an empty room, he said.
Anyway, the owner said in a recent ad uh on behalf of Joe Biden's campaign, we don't know how much longer we can survive not having any revenue.
A lot of restaurants and bars, mainstays for years, and and will not make it through this.
And it goes on from there that features the song Sabotage by the Beastie Boys, making it the first time the group licensed one of their songs for a political advertisement.
What he doesn't say in the ad is there's a uh small chance he'll face financial room if the blind pig goes under, given that he's a prominent, quote, angel investor in several local tech companies.
Uh oopsie daisy in April he tweeted praise for Whitmer.
She's doing it right by continuing the state's stay-at-home order, uh, which led to the longer shutdown than most other states.
And uh anyway, here's the ad that they're running.
It's it's so phony like everything else with Biden.
Everywhere I go, people have a story about the buy tech.
The blind pig has been one of those clubs that track artists from all genres.
For 50 years, the blind tag has been open and crowded.
But right now, it's an empty room.
This is the reality of Trump's COVID response.
You don't know how much longer we can survive not having any revenue.
There's no plan, and you don't know how to go forward.
It makes me so angry.
My only hope for my family and for this business and my community is that Joe Biden wins this election.
That's the kind of president we need.
I'm Joe Biden.
And I attend this message.
Linda's all worked up on this Jeffrey Tubin story.
He's on leave, I guess, from the New Yorker and has taken some time off from fake news CNN after he had his little moment on Zoom and a Zoom call the other day.
I think that phrase worked up is uh that's rough.
Maybe not that phrase.
I don't know if it's a one.
Okay.
Okay.
I think I'm worked up over Jeffrey Tubin.
He might be.
I have not heard many people, you know.
Doesn't Jane Mayer, you know, wasn't she on the call?
She was indeed.
I haven't heard any updates from anybody that actually got stuck on this mess of a call of his.
So people are talking uh anonymously about it because I guess it's just like one of those things like where it's, you know, I don't know.
It's so awkward, right?
It's like here's your here, here's your coworker, you know, showing you a part of their um Okay.
I can't even hang I can't even hand my my my ears can't even handle hearing.
His work ethic was really called into question.
His work ethic was called into question.
Is that what we call that now?
I'm gonna that's my new name.
If you know his ethic.
It's ethic was a question.
Yeah, sorry.
Well, personally myself is he's always been the dumbest lawyer on TV.
Let's be honest here.
And I guess apparently at a relationship while he was married with another host's daughter.
Did you hear about that?
Is that true?
I did.
Yeah, he and they had a child.
They did.
Yeah.
Um it's it's kind of a problem, you know, where the left finds themselves in a very interesting position because they're called on the carpet for the same crap they try to put upon other people that's not true.
And then when it happens, and it's always them, you know, it's kind of like the definition of is is with Clinton.
You know, you go back to I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
I'm like, okay, dude.
We all know you didn't.
Eventually it's gonna come out.
You might as well just you know, fess up now.
And with Tubin, it's the same thing.
If people are trying to come up with all sorts of things, Zoom camera on, you know, weird.
Unbelievable.
All right.
I mean, I've been doing a lot of Zoom calls, you know, because of COVID.
And you know, we did all those two.
When I do a zoom call, I pay attention to people.
But I'm just saying, I don't understand.
Like when I get on the camera, you can see I look at like what comes up in the background, make sure there's no weird pictures, you know, anything that might be offensive.
Okay, let's take that down.
Okay.
Everything's clean, everything looks good.
All right, let's get the camera on.
Let's get going.
I don't think, hmm, should I wear underwear today?
Should I put on pants?
Okay, I I can't.
This should be a next one.
You gotta stop.
You gotta you gotta stop.
You you gotta stop.
I don't want to hear any more of this.
You brought it up.
I brought it up, but I was a dumb idea.
I actually, you know, I'm gonna hit my hell were you thinking?
Bad host.
Well, I I had no idea she's gonna take it there.
How do you not know this was how this was gonna go?
Oh, good grief.
He's always been one that he's always been one that too his own tubing, and now that's coming home to roost.
Oh, okay.
I'm about to walk out too.
Yeah, I think we're all gonna walk out here.
Uh all right, let's go.
Don't hate participate.
Ken is in Florida.
Ken, we need Florida in 14 days.
How are you, Ken?
Glad you called.
I'm doing good, Sean.
How are you?
Uh I'm good, sir.
Hey, uh, just had a uh question.
I want to get your opinion on the Trump supporter enthusiasm.
I was just on a vacation in Clearwater, Florida, and happened upon a what would be a Trump parade.
Uh it was probably over a thousand cars just going down the street for over an hour.
And I wanted to see if uh if you think that the support that we show now is a not a retaliation, but a expression because of the uh anti-Trump uh cancel culture that is making us show even More support for our president than uh we have in the past.
I I think enthusiasm, if you want to ask me, do I think the enthusiasm for Donald Trump is real?
I don't it's obvious.
There's never been a politician.
The only one I would say that even came remotely close, but nothing as big as this was Barack Obama.
Um there's never been a politician that is drawing massive crowds of people from every corner of the country.
And now how do you how do we somehow extrapolate that into votes for Trump?
I I don't know how you do it.
Um the fact that Biden's campaign, now this is critical to me.
They have made a decision.
Remember, he was off Saturday, did one event on Sundays.
Tough question was one question on Hunter, and he had a fit.
But the next question was about what kind of milkshake did you get?
We got one chocolate, one vanilla.
Okay.
Then he puts a lid on everything for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
And he nobody, no presidential candidate is or campaign is going to make that decision unless they've they've outweighed the benefits.
The benefits of him hiding in the basement clearly outweigh those of him being out trying to ask people to vote for him.
And that's that that means whatever it is, and I can't, I'm not a doctor, I'm not going to play one on radio or TV.
He is he is obviously not the same guy he was when he left office in 2016.
He doesn't have the strength, he doesn't have the stamina, he doesn't have the mental alertness and the mental acuity, I believe, for the job.
And I think his campaign knows it.
They know a lot more than we do.
And for them to make that this decision that he stays home a week before the last debate, week before this debate, it is very, very telling.
And to me, it also becomes very, very dangerous.
The fact that the media will not report at all about all of these connections to all of these countries and all of these wire transfers and all of this money that Hunter is making off of his father being vice president is very telling.
Big tech companies censoring true stories about Biden family corruption.
You know they would never do this for Donald Trump.
It speaks volumes.
So what you have is real enthusiasm for the president.
I don't think there's any enthusiasm for Joe Biden.
And I think the only other the only enthusiasm you see and that you hear is that the mob and the media, big institutional forces, uh now even the debate commission, they're so uh obviously biased against Trump, then big tech companies, then the whole Democratic Party establishment, then the Republican Rhino Republican establishment.
They're all joined forces in just a singular vicious hatred of all things Trump.
Now, why do I think it is if I had to just sum it up for you?
It's it's Donald Trump has taken on the swamp and he's won.
And they hate him.
And they and he doesn't play their game, and he's never gonna play their game.
And he plays by his own rules, and they can't handle it.
And they want him gone in the worst way.
Um the fact that they've you know gone through with a phony impeachment, they have harassed this guy every way and sideways, and I think the American people are fundamentally fair.
And I think they've, yeah, they they see they see Donald Trump as tough.
They see he is a disruptor, that he breaks things, he's iconoclastic, he's irreverent, he speaks his mind, but he also keeps his promises, and things got an awful lot better with him governing versus Obama Biden.
And I think it comes down to that.
Now, is there more haters or are there more people that love Trump?
That's where turnout matters the most.
And every election, it always comes now down to turnout.
Uh we'll stay in Florida.
Mario next, Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, Mario?
Mr. Hannity, it's a pleasure to speak with you.
Uh I was born in Cuba and came to this great nation 60 years ago at a young age.
Yes, sir.
Welcome aboard.
Thank you, thank you.
It's terrifying to see the Democratic Party fully embrace the Marxist communist government that my Family fled from Fidel Castro and reliving the nightmare of losing our freedom.
I just wanted to share with you, my uncle was a journalist in Cuba who wrote an article saying Fidel Castro was a communist before he made it public.
So to censor him, my uncle was deemed an enemy of the state and was in prison for 21 years.
If the Democrats take over Congress in the White House, I'm concerned that you, with your large following, would have the same fate as General Flynn, since the lunatic left would want to silence you and like my uncle deem you an enemy of the state.
And Kamala Harris, who eventually would be president, is just a person to prosecute and silence you.
So I want to do that.
Mario, you would not believe the millions and millions and millions of dollars that are being spent to silence conservative voices now.
You wouldn't believe it.
You know, I mean, I don't come on this program and share my woes and concerns.
I'm just telling you to be very blunt about this.
You know, I've had my personal text messages, private text messages released publicly.
I have had, you know, Mueller's thugs asking questions, 45 pages of questions just about Sean Hannity.
Sean Hannity sending secret coded messages.
I mean, they're so stupid.
Um and the effort to silence conservative talk radio, get Foxhose fired.
I mean, it's it's never ending to be honest.
It's just the reality.
I just accept it for what it is, and I'm not gonna shut up until it's time for me to retire and go fishing.
And I don't know when that day's coming.
Uh if I, you know, I'm I don't live in my life in fear, and I'm not gonna start now.
I refuse to stand down just because they don't like what I have to say.
You know, at least we still have some freedom of speech in this country.
They're trying to limit it, but at least we have some.
All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today.
Carl Rove tonight, you're gonna meet the guy from the Trafalgar group, which is the one that predicted Donald Trump would win Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania in 2016.
We'll get the state of the race from Robert Callahay's name.
Uh Lawrence Jones is at the Trump rally in PA.
Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Lindsey Graham.
That's all coming up.
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