Dr. Ben Carson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Dr. Ben Carson, is also a neurosurgeon and a part of the President’s task force for the Coronavirus. Today though he is speaking out against the total unrest across the nation regarding the death of George Floyd, and professional agitators who are taking advantage of the situation. The Sean Hannity Show is on weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We expect the second quarter numbers, you know, post-a shutdown was going to be really bad.
And by the way, they're still going to be bad, but I'm thinking, okay, we're not opening up fast enough.
You know, we've learned a lot of lessons.
I've gone through all the lessons again and again and again and what we learned, what we did right, protect the elderly like they did in Florida with DeSantis and Abbott in Texas and Kemp in Georgia.
Okay, you do pretty well and you protect the most vulnerable, the opposite of what Cuomo did in New York and Murphy did in New Jersey and Wolf in Pennsylvania.
Whitmer, you know, shut down Whitmer in Michigan.
By the way, she's out protesting, just like Nancy Pelosi with no social distancing.
Pretty amazing considering all that they've been saying just recently.
And I said, all right, but if we can, one of the things one of my pet hopes, projects, what I want more than anything is a sense of normalcy.
And I believe sports will do that for us.
You know, we've seen NASCAR now.
They have their races now up and running.
UFC now, they're moving and they're getting things up and running.
I don't know what's going on with Major League Baseball and the Players Association, but you guys don't make a deal soon.
It's not going to work out for any of you.
And just think back about the strike.
What was it in the 90s?
The next year didn't work out well for Major League Baseball.
People go away, they get bored, and they forget about you.
So if I was them, I get up and running.
And if I have to wear a mask to go to a NBA game or an NFL game or an MLB game, I'd be willing to wear it temporarily.
You know, hopefully this thing is all done.
We'll find out a lot soon.
One of the biggest indicators is going to be with all the people out on the streets marching in all these different cities.
Are we going to see a spike in new coronavirus cases?
Well, we'll know in a couple of weeks.
I'm praying we don't have that spike.
But it's possible.
So the numbers come out.
The U.S. economy.
I did not expect this in May.
I did not think this would happen this early.
Now, I did believe that if we opened up the economy, that we could absolutely see the V-shape, at least the beginnings of it, a dramatic reversal of the economy, because the fundamentals before COVID and coronavirus of this economy were strong because this president, what did he do?
He got rid of all the burdensome regulation.
He cut taxes and brought manufacturing back.
Now we're going to bring back a lot more manufacturing.
Those are the jobs that Barack and Joe said were never coming back.
But for this strong showing in May, these numbers shocked me.
And I don't often get shocked because I didn't expect it this early.
Now, if it was the end of June or we got June's numbers in July and these were the numbers, I would say, yeah, I would have expected that.
I think now even what's today's date?
Next week, even New York is opening four phases, whatever phase they're going to be in.
This is great for everybody.
This is great for the country.
This is great for workers.
And one of the things I'm hearing from people is when they get back to work, there's a passion now that they didn't have before.
And some people are loving a two because now they don't even have to ever go back in the office.
Imagine that.
It's pretty amazing.
But the U.S. economy added more than 2.5 million jobs in May.
The prediction was that we would have an estimated loss of 7.5 million jobs.
You have 225,000 jobs in manufacturing, 464,000 in construction, 1.2 million in the leisure and hospitality jobs.
By the way, everybody I know is dying to go on a vacation.
Everybody I know.
The number of workers who reported being on temporary layoff decreased by 2.7 million in May.
Let's put it this way.
May now is the greatest number of jobs created in a single month on record.
Now, remember they were talking about 20% unemployment rate?
Well, the unemployment rate, it peaked, it looks like, at 14.7%.
Now it's already down to 13.3%, while it was expected to rise to 20%.
So it makes clear that once you get up and reopen, you can do it and do it successfully.
Look, I've fallen on the sword.
I was so skeptical of nail salons first opening up in Georgia.
I was not at the tattoo parlors.
I was like, are you crazy?
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
But you know what?
Cases in Georgia down 14%.
I'll tip my hat.
I'll admit that I was wrong.
The person that did everything right faster than anybody was Governor DeSantis because they're down 15, they went down 15, and I'm sure it's much lower now the last time I checked in new coronavirus cases.
And opening the beach, apparently, sunlight turns out in some way is good for people in so many different ways.
I'm not getting into the science of it.
Oh, and by the way, Lancet had to revoke their study saying that hydroxychloroquine is bad and dangerous.
And it is a shock to the medical community because, you know, there was supposed to be the creme de la creme.
They're not.
I told you who the premier expert was.
Guy by the name of Dr. Daniel Wallace.
This guy has been prescribing hydroxychloroquine.
He is the foremost expert on lupus, rheumatoid arthritis.
He's written papers on anti-malarials, et cetera.
He knows all about it.
What did he say?
42 years of practice dispensing for these specific diseases.
Hydroxychloroquine, not one person ever hospitalized for taking it.
And he said, no problem when they take it with a ZPAC either.
And then he's written 400 peer-reviewed studies.
And the foremost expert saying the risk in the doses that we're talking about, he said for 30 to 60 days, nobody was taking it for that long.
The longest I heard was 14 days.
Most people was five, seven, or ten days, or 14 days.
I didn't hear anybody taking it that long, up to 30 or 60 days.
He said any risk is nil, except for a rash.
That would be the only thing you have to watch out for.
One other minor little thing, too, very minor.
So it should give every American hope.
It is the biggest jobs increase ever, 2.5 million.
And we're just, I mean, we're literally just, it's the tip of the iceberg here because we didn't open up everything.
Most, as a matter of fact, what are we up to?
30 some odd states, 35 states open.
We're not even talking about all 50 states yet.
You know, now, look at what else has happened.
American ingenuity, not only we come up with great creative ideas about how to safely open restaurants, we're starting slow.
We're making sure that we're doing it right.
We're making, you know, we have restaurants putting in new ventilation systems.
They're putting up the plexiglass.
People dining in some cases, you know, more distance between the tables.
You don't have as much capacity.
Hopefully that can be changed eventually as well.
People even wearing masks, except for the time when they're eating.
But you have these, they all seem to be working.
Every ingenious idea, every genius idea is working here.
The innovation has been amazing because Americans want to work.
They want to get back to work.
They want to do what they do best.
And then you got the media mob.
Let's go to the Washington Post.
This was, in that, Eric the Pimple's paper, the, you know, another Fox News Hannity stalker.
Anyway, well, let's see.
They tweeted out a grim milestone to be reached as May unemployment rate nears 20%.
No, wrong again.
More fake news.
What do we also learn this week that nobody in the mob should all be on their hands and knees apologizing for three years of dragging the country through the mud with what I described accurately, and we unpeeled every layer of the onion, and that is premeditated fraud on a FISA court, taking away the civil liberties, the constitutional rights of Carter Page to spy on,
then candidate Trump with an insurance policy to spy on, then transition Team Trump and deep into the presidency of Donald Trump.
Rod Rosenstein, well, if I knew now that the fourth FISA warrant, the third renewal, was based on debunked information, I never would have signed it.
I never would have appointed Mueller.
There was no there there at all with Russia collusion.
None, zero.
The mob, the media, the Democrats, they ginned it all up and they all lied.
And you have these people at the upper echelon, seventh floor.
This is Jim Comey, Mr. Higher Honors, FBI, corrupt, abusing power.
McCabe, corrupt, abusing power.
I just want to see, you know, I think if I did these things or you did these things, all of you in this audience would be charged.
You would be charged.
Let's see if it happens in this case.
Anyway, so that's great news.
Great news.
We have, let's see, Democrat.
One of the funnier things is you have some top Democrats.
They're trying to take credit for Trump's economy now.
It's pointing out they pushed Trump and Republicans to spend the money.
No, that's not exactly what happened.
Yeah, you guys wanted to fund, let's see, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the National Endowment for the Arts, the Kennedy Performance Center.
Yeah, you kept the nation on hold and you wanted to change immigration laws and you wanted to change voting laws.
Unbelievable.
Jim Kramer over at CMBC, because it really is hard to overestimate the stunning implication of this amazing jobs report because of all the challenges facing America, the pandemic, the riots, you name it, the threat posed by shutting down the world's largest economy for more than three months was by far the most potentially catastrophic now.
Remember, the president kept saying the cure can't be worse than the problem.
And Kramer just said, we're back.
That's what he said.
Use those two words regarding the economy.
Then also said, declaring that, you know, we're not only back after the numbers came out, I think there were a lot of people who felt the layoffs would be permanent.
And it's obvious that there's so much demand that people have to bring people back.
There were many people who thought that this would be the historic beginning of the Depression.
20% layoff, he said.
He said, now we start looking back to comparing it to the Great Depression.
It is now off the table.
That's good news.
You have post-lockdown job numbers exploding, just exploding.
This is America's great comeback.
It'll be one of the greatest economic stories ever.
And guess what?
I guess that's bad news for Democrats that Trump's plans and policies are successful.
You know, what did we learn?
Why did I keep saying we learned from the coronavirus?
What did I learn here in the epicenter?
We learned, number one, that they can manufacture all the ventilators, the gowns, the masks, respirators, gloves, whatever, you name it.
They never shut down because if they did, New York hospitals and New York patients were dead.
We learned we could have the biggest medical mobilization in the history of mankind and get it all done and not fall short of one ventilator.
Even though being on a ventilator, your odds aren't good the minute you're on it.
We learned that we will lie to about hydroxychloroquine by some of the, quote, top experts in medicine.
That really pisses me off too.
We learned the experts were wrong.
We learned the models were wrong.
We also learned that the food chain supply and, you know, the farmers, the Packers, truckers, and our friend that I talked about every week that I'd see stocking the shelves at my local grocery store and the cashiers at my local grocery store, they didn't get sick because they wore masks in the middle of, you know, ground zero.
They did not get sick.
So I know some of you kind of say, Hannity, what's with you and the mask?
I'm just saying it worked.
And if it means I can go to a baseball game or a football game temporarily, if I have to wear this stupid thing, which I hate, I wear it.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
America should be happy.
Now, if this continues, which I anticipate now that we're going to really start opening up in June, July 1st begins quarter three.
Well, quarter three numbers, July, August, September, they will come out in October before an election, 151 days.
Now, when you get third quarter numbers, they're going to be a disaster, but whatever.
We kind of already knew that.
So I read a tweet by Byron York today.
He said, well, maybe it's time he goes for some enterprising blue state municipality to go bold, eliminate its police forces.
See what happens.
Because this is now, this is the big move of the left.
Now it's time to get rid of the police forces.
You know, imagine for a second.
I would never want to see this.
I watched, I guess, I don't know if this was the sign.
I know that AG in Minneapolis, Minnesota rather, we know to be Keith Ellison.
Well, his son apparently is on the city council and they're voting to eliminate a police department.
I mean, kind of bizarre.
I don't quite understand it.
You know, you have Hillary Clinton's former press secretary demanding the U.S. defund the police.
You have the Minnesota Public School Board of Education voting to terminate their contract with the police department.
Then you have we must take all actions in our power to stop systems of oppression and the Minneapolis City Council.
You know, they're now aiming to dismantle the entire police department.
Well, I know Black Lives Matter says that they want to literally police their own community, quote, their words, and that they're going to police it with armed citizens, a militias.
It sounds like to me.
I don't think that's a very good idea.
What if the police didn't show up one day?
What if they had a sick out?
What do you think would happen?
How do you think, you know, a group that we have the tape of what do we want dead cops?
When do we want them now?
They're going to have the, they'll do the policing because this is now the battle cry.
I mean, you've got tons of people on the left saying this.
Then you got part two of our undercover investigation with Project Veritas that they did on Antifa.
Wait, you hear what they have today?
It's pretty shocking and pretty dangerous.
The L.A. mayor has announced a $250 million budget cut for the LAPD, $150 million for them.
But abolishing police now is the cause celeb.
25 now till the top of the hour, 800-94.
One, Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
So you got Hillary Clinton's former press secretary demanding the U.S. defund the police.
You've got the Minnesota School Board voting to cut ties with the police.
They voted Tuesday to terminate their contract with the police department following the death of George Floyd.
Then you have Minneapolis City Council members aiming to dismantle the entire police department to rethink public safety.
Jeremiah Ellison is the son of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison and a representative of the city's Ward 5 explicitly led the calls to dramatically rethink how the city keeps its people safe.
We're going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, he tweeted.
And when we're done, we're not simply going to glue it back together.
We're going to dramatically think how we approach public safety and emergency response.
It's passed due.
His call was echoed by the president of the city council, a woman by the name of Lisa Bender.
She said, we are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, replace it with a transformative new model of public safety.
Okay, good luck with that.
Even Juan Williams said that's a bad idea.
I don't know what dismantling the police department means.
Does it mean they're going to fire them?
They have a contract with them and they're going to pay them all off.
How does that work?
I don't know.
You know, there is more diversity in police departments in every city across America.
And demographics have borne that out.
Now we're talking about in Los Angeles, the mayor there confirming that Eric Arcetti confirming Thursday that his administration will allocate $250 million from the budget to be used on jobs, health, education, and healing.
And we've all said we have to do something different.
Talking about $150 million to the LAPD that will be cut.
This is now becoming a very popular idea among angry left-wingers, even a cause celeb in Hollywood.
And, you know, it's kind of, I'm just interested in what their model is going to be.
What does that mean?
Because the police are usually the first line of defense in terms of what happens when somebody breaks into your house.
What happens if you're a victim of a crime?
What happens?
What do you think the net result is going to be?
What do you think criminals will do with that?
I mean, you look at, for example, in New York.
It is such an unmitigated disaster.
The worst state, worst city, COVID-19, just unbelievable failure.
I mean, to the point where you can't even believe that people could be that spectacularly stupid.
Now, thank God we finally got in New York zero COVID deaths, which is now a first since March.
And apparently, nightlife in New York is getting a boost.
Not sure about that headline.
This was in the New York Post.
The governor doubled down again on his decision to send coronavirus patients to nursing homes from hospitals when we now know that thousands and thousands of people died, well, unnecessarily because of that one stupid decision.
Another stupid decision is they would not allow people to go to a pharmacy to get hydroxychloroquine.
Had to go to a hospital if you wanted to get it.
And we have now an update on that too, by the way.
Then the next bad decision was, well, we find out that New York, both the state and the city, the state, they had a health task force recommending 15,783 ventilators for the next pandemic.
They're going to be short that many.
They didn't buy any.
In New York City, they were warned they're going to need close to 10,000.
Well, they bought 500.
They didn't maintain them.
Then they sold them at auction and they had none.
Now, remember that big hydroxychloroquine study?
It was pushed and published by Lancet, the ever prestigious medical publication.
Well, they've now retracted it from the Wall Street Journal, three authors of a large study that last month found that the anti-malarials provided no benefit to treating COVID-19 infections while increasing the risk of heart problems and death.
They retracted their findings.
Now the authors are saying that the medical journal that published on May 22nd that they decided to issue a retraction after the Surgisphere Corporation, the private company that provided the research data, refused to share the full detailed data set as part of a review after outside researchers raised concerns.
Lancet, the same journal that politicized medicine in order to get a take a stance in opposing President Trump.
Now, we went to the foremost expert, Dr. Wallace out in Cedar Sinai in California.
Unbelievable.
So there is a front cover of the New York Post today.
It says Debusio about protesters turning their backs and booing Comrade de Blasio.
Oh, it's well deserved.
I mean, the president's been begging the city to offer help.
They have to ask for the help.
The governor has to ask for the help.
The president does not have the authority to just send them in unless he invokes the 1807 Insurrection Act, which would give him the authority to do so.
But the president rightly is very hesitant in doing that because the next step, after the police, would be the guard.
You use the guard.
It would have to be a real outright emergency to ever go to the Insurrection Act because that then brings in the military facing off against their fellow citizens.
We don't want that.
We have posse comitatus laws, but I think the Insurrection Act legally, you know, would allow the president to do it, but they don't even want any help from the president.
That's the sickest part of all of this, no matter how many people are getting hurt here.
And Cuomo is also on the front cover.
Well, now he wants bail.
He decries the release of looters because of the law that he himself signed.
He said it would be nonsensical to let looters back on the street, even though he signed the bail law that makes it pretty much nearly impossible to hold criminals after they're arrested.
That's his law.
That has his signature on it.
That, you know, because they're arresting, the police are trying to get control of the city.
They're losing the city.
They're trying to get control of it.
But what happens is those that are stirring up all the trouble, well, guess what?
They get arrested and they're out on the street joining back in the activities within hours with no bail.
Let's say they get arrested again.
They're out again.
No bail.
Rejoined the, you know, the anarchy.
Unbelievable.
It is beyond anything I think I've ever seen.
But now prosecutors, Cuomo is saying they got to get tough on those people that are looting and the arsonists, et cetera, et cetera, you know, to the, to the, to New York City district attorneys, it would be nonsensical if the police were arresting looters and they were then being arrested and returned to the street the next day to loot again.
Hey, Cuomo, okay, rescind your own law because you signed that into law.
And this is madness.
You have looters who are using rocks, breaking windows, stealing.
These people should be charged for the crime that they committed and bail set.
Only problem is he's now tied the hands of DAs.
They don't have any bail.
And they're all being let out.
And by the way, they knew this before this violence ever started because you had people being charged with bank robbery that then would go back out on the street because of no bail.
And those people would then also, going forward, rob another bank.
And then they'd get let out again and they'd rob another bank.
Linda, how many did the one guy rob?
What was it, five, six banks?
And he got, yeah, he said, thank you for your new bail law.
I appreciate it.
Why wouldn't he be thankful?
They're not enforcing curfews by any stretch.
You've got a clash in Buffalo with an elderly man.
I mean, things are not looking good in New York.
I'm going to tell you the net result.
People are going to leave in droves.
People are sick of it.
They've had it.
First of the pandemic, they were prepared for nothing.
Early March, you have the dopey mayor telling people, oh, go out on the town.
Here are my recommendations for the next three nights, March 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, or March 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
Okay, that turned out to be wrong.
March 10th, he's still saying, no, the risk is low.
Cuomo, arrogantly, well, we're not like these other countries.
We're prepared.
And we're going to, as New Yorkers, we're not like them.
We're prepared.
They weren't prepared for anything.
And thank God, Donald Trump, in record time, built the hospitals, manned the hospitals, converted the hospitals, and provided all the ventilators, all of the masks and respirators, all of the shields, all of the gowns, and all of the gloves.
Well, now they're saying, well, we want all this money for all these pet projects.
You're not getting it because you're not even opening up your state.
You know, in spite of all these states remaining closed, you still got two and a half million jobs.
Imagine what's going to happen.
Hopefully by July, everybody's going to be able to open up, open up safely, use the lessons that we learned.
I don't see a lot of masks and social dis.
I do see masks.
I do see them with the protesters.
Not sure they're wearing it for COVID reasons, maybe to hide their identity.
I don't know.
But now the cry is, let's defund the police.
All right.
What if the police went on strike across the country for one night?
What do you think would happen?
I would never want to see it.
And I'll tell you another thing.
I don't think cops would ever do it because they don't sign up to be cops to hurt people.
I think the vast majority, the 99%, Leo Thoreau thinks it's 98%, they go to work every day to protect and to serve.
More people that are cops, that are in the military, that are nurses, teachers, firemen, policemen, you name it, the ones that I know, my friends, they all go into these professions because it is their calling in life.
They've dreamed of it ever since they were young.
Guys that want to be pilots, all they've ever wanted to do was fly airplanes and jets.
And everybody has different talents.
What did I say yesterday?
We're all born with talent, educre, education, Latin, to bring forth from within.
Everybody has a different within, and we just got to find whatever it is within that they love to do.
And then they're going to be great at what they do because they love what they do.
Anyway, Governor Whitner, by the way, it was fun to watch her violating her own social distancing orders during a protest, you know, where hands up, don't shoot.
Remember that happened?
That was the Ferguson cry when, in fact, we finally got to the witness part of it.
It turned out that didn't happen.
That was said by the guy that helped rob the convenience store with Michael Brown in that particular case.
Whatever happened to Darren Wilson, the career police officer, his career is over.
Maxine Waters is now classifying and saying the term rioting is negative language used against black people.
Well, I've seen people of all races and colors involved in the rioting.
I see the same with those that are peacefully protesting.
I see people of all backgrounds and races.
As a matter of fact, in a country that doesn't agree on very much, everyone that I've talked to, I've heard, all agrees they didn't like what they saw with the knee on the neck of George Floyd like that, with his face pushed into the pavement.
That clearly, Dr. Biden said, led to his death.
Well, Dr. Biden's the best at what he does.
I trust him.
I've known him a long time.
Just like I trust Dr. Wallace out in California, the foremost expert on a hydroxychloroquine.
All it takes is a little bit of work and a little bit of research, a little bit of studying, and you get answers that, well, the mob and the media, if it doesn't fit their narrative, isn't going to work.
Now the spread of getting rid of the police has gone to Congress.
Congresswoman Omar calling for the Minneapolis Police Department to disband.
Great.
Here we go.
If you're interested in polling, you know, there's a lot of polling out there, Gallup polls.
Democrats now think that they're going to be able to drive President Trump from office by demonizing America's police.
Okay, but, you know, they've done these polls throughout the years.
And what have we learned?
Well, the police, in terms of net confidence, they're plus 60%.
The military, plus 65%.
Small business, plus 60%.
You know, then they go through different, you know, the presidency, let's see, that would be plus six.
Supreme Court, plus 17.
Banks plus 10.
Oh, let's get all the way down to television news people.
Oh, minus 30.
Let's get down to Congress.
Minus 41 net confidence.
They have confidence in the police, the military, but not so much in Congress or the mob and the media.
Gee, I wonder why.
Really hard to figure that one out, isn't it?
Unbelievable.
You know, these are very, you know, in 151 days, do you now see my sense of urgency?
What the hell is at stake here?
Because there's a lot at stake.
By the way, Attorney General Barr, he's defending the police officers and, you know, disputed the question from the New York Times who asked whether or not America's law enforcement system was effectively racist.
And he said, as with all human institutions, there are sometimes bad apples.
We'll deal with that, he said.
But these are very much the exception and not the rule.
Well, me and Leo Terrell agree with that.
And he said the rule of law will prevail.
He was very clear on that, too.
And the Attorney General says they have evidence of Antifa hijacking a lot of the protests around the country.
We have James O'Keefe coming up with, you know, waiting to hear what he has in round two, his second installment of his investigative report because they infiltrated Antifa.
So we'll get into that as well.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, you know what it is?
You know, it's going to be jobs or mobs.
You know, because I don't hear Joe Biden condemning what we're watching on TV every night.
I don't hear him condemning governors and mayors that can't get control of their cities and won't even ask for help.
A lot of our audience, because we have a younger audience that has been posting on social media the hashtag defund police.
And Rashida Talib actually even tweeted support of defund police.
What do you think about that?
What would the world be like without police?
Well, I understand the frustration and the sentiment.
I think that the youth of our country are going to take up the lead soon.
I do get concerned about kind of the sweeping observations that people have.
All right, that was Governor Shutdown of Michigan, Governor Whitmer.
Now we have, she did an interview.
I understand the sentiment.
We're going to shut down the police.
Okay, that would be like everybody's first line of defense.
And, you know, we've been reporting this week about how Black Lives Matter, that they would like to form their own armed police force or militia, whatever you want to call it themselves, and not have any police dealings at all or have any police.
You have the son of the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, Jeremiah Ellison in Minneapolis.
He's a member of the city council and yeah, claiming they will dismantle the police there.
I never thought we'd be debating this, but we are.
And, you know, if you look at what we now have heard in the last few days, well, let's go to New York.
We have, you know, how many officers now injured?
Two nights ago, two officers shot, another stabbed in the neck.
Then, of course, we have everyone in New York that is partaking in this anarchy on the streets of New York.
They get arrested, but because of Cuomo's stupid bail policies, the law that he signed, which he even says now is idiotic, they put out in the street, you know, within hours.
No bail posted, no bail needed at all.
So their solution to all of this on the left is, yeah, get rid of the police altogether.
Even have Hillary Clinton's former spokesperson, Brian Fallon, defund the police.
And it's a cause celeb, Hollywood, John Legend, Jane Fonda, Lizzo, and so many others with an open letter demanding police be defunded.
Mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti, city council vowing to cut over $150 million from the LAPD budget.
In New York, 40 city council candidates, they are calling for a billion-dollar cut to the NYPD.
And yeah, Black Lives Matter, they want to replace them, I guess, with their own armed militia.
You can't make this stuff up.
This is real.
And I guess that's, I'm not sure how the violence ends under this scenario, but Dan Bongino is with us, Fox News contributor, former NYPD officer, Secret Service agent.
Okay, how is that going to work for society, Dan Bongino?
Well, Sean, if Black Lives Matter really believes in what they say, that Black Lives Matter, then defunding the police is obviously to any rational actor counterproductive to that cause.
You know, I had a rather unique experience with the police department.
I came on in the Giuliani era.
We had just left the awful mayorship of David Dinkins, where, Sean, the policy as a street cop was generally this.
It wasn't official, but it was kind of unspoken.
You leave the little stuff alone because if you arrest someone for smoking a joint in the street, you're not going to be out there for, say, a murder that would happen later on.
And that made sense for decades to the police management.
It was a dumb policy, but they thought it made sense.
Giuliani comes into office with Bratton and Jack Maple and others and says, no, we're doing broken windows now, Sean, meaning every small crime, you're getting locked up no matter what.
You know what they found out, Sean?
Not puzzling to you or I or any conservative, that the same guy smoking a joint was likely the same guy who robbed the woman on the corner later on that night.
So when you locked him up for smoking a joint, he wasn't there to commit the robbery.
It wasn't rocket science.
It only took an outside-the-box mayor like Mayor Giuliani to think about it and to implement it.
And you're a New Yorker like I was.
I was there.
Crime dropped in half and then dropped in half again and then dropped to historic lows we hadn't seen in decades.
And by the way, in the process, lives are saved.
And, you know, the DC mayor, I'm not sure if you heard about this, but literally is now the road near the White House is painted with huge Black Lives Matter signs.
Just in case people forgot, this is some marchers with Black Lives Matters, and this is what they're chanting.
What do we want?
Dead cops.
When do we want them now?
Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
Wow.
Yeah, well, they fried him, and they got the dead cops they wanted, Sean.
One of them was stabbed in the neck.
I think he may be still alive, but a couple of them aren't.
And of course, we saw the retired police officer, David Dorn, out there to do a favor for a friend try to secure his pawn shop who was shot and his death was filmed on Facebook Live.
And any of your listeners, if you want to see one of the most disturbing things outside of the George Floyd video, which is disturbing enough, but you want to see, what about David Dorn, who, by the way, happens to be black?
I know that doesn't matter to many of the Black Lives Matter people who only seem to be focusing on one end of this and not the subsequent tragedy after George Floyd.
But he's on camera, Sean, dying, bleeding out on the ground.
And there's a young man next to him saying, come on, OG.
Come on, OG.
Come on.
Like, get up.
Get up.
Hang in there.
He didn't hang in there.
He's dead.
He took a bullet, center mass, and bled out on the sidewalk trying to defend his friend's pawn shop.
I mean, what about his life?
Again, don't tell me Black Lives Matter if you're not serious about it.
You know what I mean?
Let me bring in Geraldo Rivera here.
Geraldo, is that the answer?
We're going to abandon police departments.
We're going to let Black Lives Matter police communities on their own armed militia, I guess.
I think that it's preposterous.
And I've always seen during this kind of anti-police sentiment that the communities that they seek to de-police are the communities that need police the most.
The violence, the internal violence, the civil war, the ghetto civil war that rages so often, particularly in communities like Chicago, for example.
You know, but for the cops, it would be every man until the last man.
And Sean, there's something crippling about this self-inflicted violence.
And one of the worst things about it is that nobody talks about it because it's not politically correct to talk about it.
You know, if you have a real burning sentiment to help your community and you speak out about black-on-black violence, for example, then you have someone like Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, calling you all kinds of names and saying, F off, stay out of our face.
Well, when is someone going to take responsibility for it?
At what point does the genocide, self-inflicted, become the story?
I think that it's very, very unfortunate, Sean.
So you have now the cities there rejecting the National Guard help.
You know, in the beginning, I'm thinking, well, I guess the president's just going to have to go in and clean this up.
And we have the Insurrection Act.
Constitutionally, he has the right to use it.
But I'll be honest, if they do not have a desire to get the help that they obviously need to protect their states and protect their cities, like New York, for example, Illinois, for example, and a number of other places, then I just don't see how the president sending in members of the military to confront fellow citizens.
We always talk about posse comitadas.
I don't think it's a good idea.
They have to do their job.
This is not the job of the president.
If you want the guard help, they have to ask for it.
Those that have asked for it got it, and they're doing much better than those that steadfastly refuse to ask for it, Dan Bongino.
No, Sean, I'm with you 100%, man.
You just nailed it.
I said from the start, although the president, there's not a serious question about his authority to do it.
That's just liberal media nonsense.
Of course he can do it.
And Sean, I don't disagree with him putting it out there as an option.
I mean, if we were going to, God forbid, lose an American city, and we're not there.
No hyperboles necessary.
We're not at that point.
Thank the Lord.
I'm not using his name in vain.
But then it would be a viable constitutional option.
I agree with you 100%, though.
Until we get to that point, and God forbid we do, it's insanity to talk about that.
I mean, you'd be talking about potential blue-on-blue incidents or blue-on-green if something broke bad.
I mean, you have to have that coordination.
It's necessary.
And can I add here, too?
I just want to just say, you know, I know Geraldo and I, we agree sometimes, disagree on us.
I agree with him 100% on this.
Don't you find it odd that the only talk of depolicing is in really minority communities?
I mean, Sean, my neighborhood's fine.
I don't have any issues down here.
Everything's okay.
Thankfully, we've got a great sheriff.
But these liberals are pushing this agenda in communities, and he's right, that need police the most.
That's not going to affect me.
No one's going to de-police Stewart in Martin County.
That ain't going to happen.
There's no support of it.
You want to go deep police some of these high-crime neighbors?
That's insane.
It won't happen.
I don't think it'll happen anywhere.
It's like the same kind of BS that I've heard my entire adult life in the news business.
You know, I joked on your air last night, Charlie, that in New York, we would, during the Vietnam War, say that a vote to abolish the United States military would pass overwhelmingly.
You know, there is a sentiment, an anti-establishment sentiment that is crusty and long established.
I think the Black Lives Matter movement is almost a modern recreation of the world I lived in when I was representing the young lords and the Black Panthers were around and there was the white patriots.
There was a white group also, but it was a far left, an Antifa-type group that was allied with the Panthers and with the Lords.
Heraldo, can I jump in on you there?
I don't mean to interrupt you, but can I say I disagree?
I'd love to hear it.
I disagree.
I don't think that is that far from a possibility now.
I mean, you would have never thought in a million years either that an FBI would have spied on an incoming president.
I just, and correct me if you think I'm wrong.
You've been in this a long time.
But Geraldo, you've got to admit, this time's a little different.
I mean, stuff's happening now that I admit that what the FBI did to the president was a classic example of the worst of J. Ed Edgar Hoover's most paranoid actions.
I think it was horrible what the FBI did.
And the great tragedy of our times is that with everything else happening with the pandemic and with this the insurrection and the anarchy, we've lost, you know, it's been totally submerged.
The story of our life is really the attempted coup and the use of the pondering of the use of the 25th Amendment, the accusation that our president is a Russian spy.
I mean, some of the most flamboyantly disgusting charges ever leveled have for three years dominated the media.
Now that we're exposing it, you know, it's a backpage story.
It was three years of never-ending lies, three years of conspiracy theories.
Yeah, but how shocking is it that, you know, they win the Pulitzer Prize.
Give it back to the story exposed.
And they give it back to apology.
There's no self-reflection.
There's nothing but some other way to get it.
Let's think of some other way to get it, Trump.
They're apologizing for Tom Cotton's op-ed in the paper.
Stay right there.
Geraldo, Dan Bongino.
And as we continue, Dan Bongino, Geraldo Rivera.
So how does this, do we ever get back control, or is this now going to be every night in perpetuity, Geraldo, or do we have an end in sight here?
Well, I think last night was a lot better than the previous nights.
I mean, in some communities, tragically, it's because they've already emptied the stores out.
But I think that when the president was in his rage, really condemning the lack of action and demanding as the lawline order president that these mayors and governors get off their butts, I think it had an impact.
I mean, it certainly did in the city I know best in New York.
I talked to the cops all the time.
We all know Blue Deedle and Bernie Carrick and all our pals from many, many decades.
And I go way back with the cops from when I was in high school.
But you have a situation where there was very, very, when the mayor, when the chief executive of the community is sabotaging his own police force, the fact that it's 38,000 strong, as strong as two army divisions,
means nothing if the chief executive has so, you know, hampered the management of the organization that it has no confidence that it's on its back foot when it knows that everything it does is not only subject to intense scrutiny, but the kind of scrutiny that comes with a negative ideological hatred almost is a self-hatred.
And it's so unfortunate.
And the people who suffer, like New York now, who's going to want to pay $8 million for those apartments?
I don't think an $8 million apartment is worth $5 million now.
So someone's lost $3 million, some builder.
I don't see it coming back either.
Let me go to Dan Bongino.
We have about 40 seconds left.
Dan.
Yeah, quick, on two things.
Yes, it will stop.
And here's why.
One, business interests in the city that finance political campaigns will not allow this.
This will stop.
Secondly, God forbid this happens.
But someone will get killed if this continues.
And there will be a massive public outcry for order on the streets again.
God forbid that happens.
I pray.
Literally, it doesn't.
But one of those things is going to happen, and the public won't allow it to continue.
There's no way.
That's a scary scenario.
And I've been saying that and a little bit more to my closest friends.
I don't even want to go where my head is really going to now, but it's there.
All right.
Geraldo, thank you.
Dan Bongino, thank you.
Ben Carson, when we get back, also Project Veritas expose on Antifa part two.
And wait till you hear what we have today.
Straight ahead.
my brother wasn't about that the footage is a god-fearing family I want to thank God.
I was mad.
I was upset.
But I want to thank God.
It wasn't his fault.
It was his purpose.
It was his will.
Took me a few days to come to that realization.
But I want to thank God.
Everywhere you go and see people, how they cling to him.
They wanted to be around him.
You know, George, he was like a general.
Every day he walks outside.
It'd be a line of people.
Like, just like when we came in, wanted to greet him and wanted to have fun with him.
Guys that was doing drugs like smokers and homeless people, you couldn't tell because when you spoke to George, they felt like they were the president because that's how he made you feel.
He was powerful, man.
He had a way with words.
He could always make you ready to jump and go all the time.
Everybody loved George.
We didn't call him George.
We called him Perry.
If you called him Perry, you knew him direct.
You know?
Because George was the name everybody called him Big George or Big Floyd.
You know, Georgie Porgy.
They had so many different names.
But I'm gonna go ahead and let.
Go ahead.
I'm not stopping you, but I'm just, man, it's crazy, man.
All these people came to see my brother.
And that's amazing to me that he touched so many people's hearts.
You know, because he's been touching our hearts, you know.
You come to Third Ward, where we're from, people are crying right now.
That's how much they love them.
You know, I'm just staying strong as I can because I need to get it out.
I need to get it out.
Everybody wants justice.
We want justice for George.
He's going to get it.
He's going to get it.
That was during the memorial service yesterday, Terence Floyd, George Floyd's brother, and Philonis Floyd, his other brother, speaking about him and what happened.
Now this has evolved into something very different.
As we've been discussing, I don't see how looting arson and killing and rioting helps in any way.
We've seen this movie before.
A lot of times this kind of thing happens.
And guess what?
Stores don't come back.
Lives are then dramatically changed forever for the worse.
Rather than peaceful protesting, we haven't seen it.
We see cities now refusing the help of the president.
President's begging to help them and send the National Guard.
But, you know, there was a tweet by Byron York today.
Maybe it's time for some enterprising blue state municipality to go bold and eliminate its police force and let's see what happens.
Well, do we really have to think hard about what we think would happen there?
You got Hillary Clinton's former press secretary.
Again, as I mentioned with Dan Bongino and Geraldo, defund the police.
This is now the battle cry.
Minneapolis School Board voting to cut ties with the police there.
That would be, by the way, the son of Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota.
He's one Minneapolis City Council member.
You know, Juan Williams warned the far left call to defund the police is a bad idea.
I think he's right.
Joining us now is Dr. Ben Carson, Secretary of Housing, Urban Development.
You know, I wrote a friend today, Dr. Carson, and I get the feeling.
I see all of these insane ideas.
Let's get rid of the lifeblood of the world's economy, oil and gas, and everything's free, and the government's going to take over industry and, you know, listening to Joe Biden and appeasement and open borders and amnesty and sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and free health care and college, and everything's free, free, free.
Then we'll have no police department.
And then, of course, we'll appease foreign countries with $150 billion in cash and other currency.
And I'm like, you know, it sounds like an America that is unrecognizable to me.
You're exactly right.
And there have been those who don't like our system.
And they want to change us into something else.
They want to fundamentally change America.
And, you know, in more recent years, they've become pretty blatant about it.
But they can't really change America as long as America is working well, as long as things are going well for people.
So the only way you can bring about that change is to create chaos and dissatisfaction.
And I think they take every opportunity to do that.
And it's a shame that they would take a situation like this where, you know, the young man was murdered and use that as their excuse to cause havoc and destruction.
None of what we're viewing every night at this point.
Now, you have a murder two and a manslaughter charge against the officer that put his knee, kept his knee on the neck of George Floyd.
There's universal agreement.
I have not heard one person I know commentator that is prominent or that I've even heard of that has said anything that would support what happened because what happened is obviously repulsive and evil and wrong.
You can't do that.
It's egregious.
And things like that are way off in the stratosphere.
I mean, those are not things that happen in this country very often.
There are those who want you to believe that this is a common occurrence.
This is by no stretch of the imagination a common occurrence.
And the fact that you have universal condemnation of it should tell you that this is way off.
Now you have these.
You agree about nothing.
True.
But now we're discovering what?
What the Attorney General has been warning us about, that you have organized, well-funded anarchists, now the designated domestic terrorist group, Antifa, now organizing a lot of what we see, especially as the night rolls along.
You've got cops shot, killed, stabbed, injured, fighting, clinging for life, some citizens.
You see storefronts looted and destroyed and wiped out.
This after the coronavirus shutdown, which was difficult for everybody to try and get the country up and running again.
And I'm thinking that this isn't going to come back.
And you talk about when we're doing well, there's always going to be cycles.
We see political cycles.
We see economic cycles all the time.
Today's numbers were beyond anything I thought would be possible for May.
Which I'm sure irritates the heck out of them after all they've been doing to try to destroy things.
So if you have an agenda that means that you do well if America does poorly, that's a pretty twisted way of thinking if that's what their thought process is.
It is very twisted.
And what the American people have to do is recognize what's going on.
Don't align yourself with these nefarious ideas just because you feel for the fellow and for his family who were killed.
We all feel for them, but we've got to be smart enough not to get dragged into the tell when and get caught up in things that we really shouldn't be doing and that really are antithetical to the values and principles that made this into a great nation.
This nation will spring back.
It'll spring back very quickly because the fundamentals are still there.
You know, we've removed a ton of regulations.
So that's going to make very fertile ground for new businesses to spring up.
So even though we've lost some businesses, we're going to have a lot of new businesses springing up and a lot of job opportunities for people.
So, you know, they're going to be really irritated when they see how fast it comes back.
And then they're going to try to do something.
They're going to be irritated when America becomes successful.
Wow.
That's a pretty powerful statement.
Let me ask you this.
I love your personal story.
And when you were running for president, we became, in my mind, very good friends.
And I admire you so much and your life.
And you tell this story about your mom.
And your mom took a hold of you and had you learn how to study and read.
And she was forceful and made it happen.
And I think also refused to let us be victims.
That was refused to any type of blame of anything.
We all take responsibility for our lives.
Here's where one big failure exists.
And if you look at states and you look at cities that for decades, Democratic run, Democratic authority the whole time, I look at Chicago, prime example.
Okay, I can come in every Monday morning with numbers and statistics of how many people are shot, how many people are dead.
And this has gone on now for a decade.
And nobody fixes or solves the problem and says, you know what, this carnage of American treasure, a lot of young kids getting killed here, has got to stop.
The school system, we pay the most money per capita than any industrialized country, and we come in 37th and 38th, and that system of failure continues.
I don't get it.
That irritates the heck out of me.
You have all these young black males being killed every single weekend in Chicago.
And all of these people who feign great concern, not at work, crickets.
They don't care.
And the school systems, as you mentioned, and Baltimore, where I spent many years working, some of the schools were deemed inadequate through the No Child Left Behind program.
And the children in those schools were going to be sent to schools that were functioning appropriately.
And the politicians came and surrounded those schools and say, no, these are our schools.
These are our failing schools and our failing students.
I mean, just crazy stuff.
And sometimes I think people just do things by knee-jerk reaction or somebody has told them this is what they're supposed to do.
They don't really think about the implications of what they're doing and how it's hurting them and how it's hurting their communities.
I see more and more people starting to wake up.
And believe me, that is creating.
You might be more optimistic than me.
You really might.
I really believe that with the economy, it will bounce back.
I do believe that.
I do believe these riots will settle down.
I believe that too.
Believe in the American people, their desire to create and innovate and improve the lives, not just of the American people, but we've accumulated all this power with all this freedom.
We abuse it less than anyone else that's ever had power, and we use it to advance the human condition.
I've talked a lot about that, and I believe we will continue to do that.
But I see, you know, these forces surrounding the system that made us great, the founding principles that guide us, and they want to tear it all down and replace it with what we know to be a predictable failure with false promises, lofty goals, rhetoric, slogans, bumper stickers that will result in failure, utter failure.
There is no ambiguity about where this ends.
It would be concerning, and it should be concerning to all of us, but I don't think God's done with us yet.
You know, when he washes his hands of us, you know, then we threw him out of school, Dr. Carson.
He's not there anymore.
But there's enough of us.
There's enough of us.
He's going to listen.
So maybe I should say, let not my own heart beat trouble when it is.
But Dr. Ben Carson, always a pleasure.
Thank you, sir, for being with us.
We appreciate it.
All right.
You too, Sean.
Take care.
All right, news roundup information overload hours.
Sean Hannity Show, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
Now, our friends at Project Veritas, they are back yesterday, the first in what will be a series of one of their members going undercover and becoming a part of Antifa, now designated a domestic terrorist organization.
But they've been able to infiltrate this group, this radical group.
We talked yesterday about, I mean, it's like this clandestine, covert ops type of organization, where they get their money from, how much money they have, we don't know.
But we've got into a little bit of what it is that their philosophy is and what they're all about, because we do believe the Attorney General has said it, other lawmakers have said it as well, that a lot of what we see in terms of the violence in the cities all across the country, it's quite organized.
Trace Gallagher over at the Fox News channel describing the positioning, the staging of bricks in certain areas where they expect there's going to be confrontations with the police.
We've seen a lot of police injured.
Then you also have other groups.
You have Black Lives Matter, as we've been talking about as well.
But in the case of Antifa, or as some say, Antifa, now James O'Keefe's group, they've now gone deeper.
And, you know, my knowledge of martial arts, again, I'm a student of the arts.
I've been a student for seven years.
I use an eclectic blend of arts, Krav Maga, Kempo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, situational street fighting.
That would be sticks, knives, guns, et cetera.
You know, just real combative defense measures for me and also a great workout.
But you can hear, and as I'm listening to this, I'm thinking, okay, whoever is teaching these techniques does have a foundational knowledge of real street fighting to not only damage, but potentially even kill.
And I'll tell you what I mean.
The first tape you're going to hear is a person talking about, quote, combat training using kidney punches.
That's a very strategic punch, targeted punch, somebody's kidney.
And if you hit it the right way in the right spot and you know what you're doing, you can cause a lot of damage.
Then they're talking about, we've heard a lot about chokes.
If I put you in what's called a rear naked choke, in other words, I would slide one of my arms in and around the neck where my forearm bone, if you will, on the side is literally pressing down into the carotid arteries on both sides, the left and right side.
Then you wrap it around the person's shoulders and you put it, your other hand, pretty much holding it in place, and a person cannot get out of that hold if you have any level of strength at all.
And they describe that.
Now, that's called choking somebody out.
If you really get in there and you know how to do a rear naked choke, that person can die.
That's why I kept saying with the video as it relates to George Floyd that the pressure on the neck and the most vulnerable part of the human anatomy means something.
Anyway, listen, this is now part two, James O'Keefe, Project Veritas.
If you get a good liver kidney shot, it's pretty much privileged.
You're going to be doubled over and in a lot of pain.
If you break one of the floating ribs, which are the smaller ribs down here, those are also very painful.
It's hard to move after that, to catch a breath.
So one good body shot could potentially give you all the time in the world to run away while they're double building pain.
Or really put a beating on them after that if you really don't like the person.
We just kind of want to, in the space, reframe the idea of self-defense as not simply your being acted upon by an aggressor, but it's a kind of a decision you make to fight back in a lot of ways to say, I'm human and I occupy this space and I'll be not with my nose inside of my head.
Yeah, if I'm going to TV, you could definitely do the thing here.
But even here in the sea, you put a man on that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if that doesn't knock him out, then you have the nose, the base, the eye, poke the eyes with the other day.
See how he has a safe space to practice aggression, not aggression against one another, but really just a space that if you want to, if you or will want to challenge yourself to kind of work on harnessing that kind of energy.
It seems like more people are using like mats and batons.
Yeah, which like we can totally do defense against populace, but it's hard to do defensive against blood objects when someone's holding a shield.
Oh yeah.
Because defense against blood objects involves like shot hit me.
Like that kind of shit.
If you've got a shield, like what?
So the main takeaway from C-bill is just stay f away.
You know how bouncers like to choke people from the back?
Yeah.
Rear naked chokeboats.
That is used all the time.
Like someone will just come up behind you.
Or the other thing.
A bear hug.
It's super, super simple.
You just drop a body like it, right?
It's crazy simple.
So the idea is you step to the side, grab the person and then slam them down.
Okay?
That's one way.
So here's the other way.
Come on, choke him.
Can you grab his face?
Or you just ugly elbow and he will let go.
So very sophisticated.
Now, remember, the cops, there are peaceful protesters.
There are people that are genuinely, rightly, they're righteous in their desire for justice in the case of George Floyd.
Now, amongst them, though, are these agitators.
And what are they talking about?
Rear naked chokes?
They're talking about, you know, nose, eyes, poking the eyes, gouging the eyes.
You know, these are very, very, very specific targeted training moves by people that want to win a real street fight, except the cops don't recognize these agitators amongst the peaceful protesters, so they never know what they're facing at any given moment.
That makes it their job, again, three times harder.
Anyway, James O'Keefe back with us, Project Veritas.
Well, those are very specific, very aggressive, and also the types of targeted strikes and chokes that do real damage.
Hey, Sean, yeah, thank you for having me on again.
And again, what's amazing about this next installment is that they're talking about poking people's eyes out again.
Yesterday, they were talking about eye gouging.
And also, one of the Antifa fight instructors was trying to rationalize these things as self-defense.
He says they're not really self-defense, but we're going to reframe this as self-defense.
So it's not really self-defense.
It's a kind of offensive violence.
But they're suggesting that they could turn it into a type of self-defense in order to hurt people.
And you really get an inside view here on this training, Sean.
Some of the people in the media says this isn't even really an organization or a group.
They say it doesn't even exist.
Well, you're seeing inside of their trainings now.
Yeah, and you're talking about kidney shots.
They're talking about gouging eyes, poking eyes, a lot about the neck here, rear naked chokes.
And you're right.
They're basically saying, well, we're going to say it's defensive, but we know it's not defensive.
And, you know, you get in a good kidney shot.
It's pretty much crippling them.
And they're going to be doubled over in a lot of pain.
And if you break one of the floating ribs, which are small and right down here, well, those are very painful too.
And it's hard to move after that kind of shot to even catch your breath, which, by the way, is all true.
One good body shot could potentially give you all the time in the world to run away while they'll doubled over in pain or really put a beating on them if you really want to make it personal.
That sounds like planned violence and attacks to me.
Well, it sure is, Sean.
And as I said to you yesterday, this is a group that believes in the so-called coming insurrection, according to one of their books, which is a left-wing manifesto from out of Europe.
And we reported on this, that the Antifa's connection to Sweden, one of their founders, a woman named Caroline, came over from Sweden to Oregon to work with this group, Rose City Antifa.
This one, Sean, is in something called Refuse Fa, New York City, Refuse Fascism, part of Antifa.
And again, just looking at the tape, like you said, and Sean, when I met you, I know that you're an expert to some degree in some of this martial arts stuff.
I am not.
But clearly, I loved how you broke that down.
These guys know what they're doing, and they're training their members to commit acts of offensive violence.
So my question is, we're going to keep putting out these videotapes.
I'd love for whether it's the Attorney General or someone in government.
I was just going to ask that.
I mean, I would imagine that the Attorney General probably wants to see this, especially after these comments that he made yesterday.
I'd imagine he's already seen it.
I don't have any specific, no one's reached out to me yet.
I've heard rumors that they would like to reach out to me, but nobody has called me.
I'm willing to speak with the Department of Justice about this.
We have more tapes, and you always ask me what's next.
As I said to you, I want to give each and every one of these the justice it deserves.
We don't even know some of these people's last name.
We'd like to crowdsource that on the internet.
We'd like people to find the last names.
We tried to find the full names, but we have unmasked these people.
They're not wearing their black block.
They don't have the stuff covering their faces so you can see who they are.
But we have another tape coming out on Monday.
And it's even worse with weapons training.
Here they're just talking about poking people's eyes out, but next we've got weapons they're using.
So we have to.
Are we talking about sticks?
Are we talking about knives?
Are we talking about guns?
Are we talking about all the above?
We're talking about guns.
And I don't know if, yeah, I assume these guns are obtained lawfully, but we're talking about guns.
This is the real deal.
And we want people to take this seriously.
But right now, we have a media that doesn't even acknowledge their existence, denies reality, Sean.
They don't even want to acknowledge this as a group.
They're saying this is not a legitimate group after the Attorney General of the United States says they're a terrorist organization.
So I don't know how you can deny the evidence of your eyes and ears after seeing these tapes.
I'm just telling you, I've done this.
I'm a student now seven years in this, four or five days a week.
This is what we do.
And these are the most violent areas of attack that inflict the most damage.
Now, I learned it for self-defense purposes.
But whoever this instructor is is not ignorant.
Maybe evil, but is not ignorant.
This person is very acutely aware of exactly what, because even an amateur, if you know, if you're taking somebody off guard and you have an open shot because they're not expecting it, you get cold cocked from behind or they come up to you and get on you very quickly.
All of what they're being taught can inflict massive damage.
When you do an eye gouge, James, what that means is you take both thumbs, you push them way deep into the socket and you rip them out.
You will rip out their eyeball.
And it's not hard to do.
A rear naked choke, literally, if it's applied properly, and again, if somebody's caught off guard, they have no idea fights about to ensue, but this is their mission and they have an intention of doing this.
You throw that person, you lock in a rear-naked choke, and you really lock it in.
That person's going to drop unconscious in anywhere from 10 to 15 seconds.
Done.
Out.
Cold.
Well, Sean, I think just to reiterate on the radio here, because we're on the radio, you can't see it.
This Chris, the Antifa fight instructor, says, quote, we want to reframe the idea of self-defense as not simply you're being acted upon.
That's an extraordinary statement.
They want to reframe the very idea of self-defense.
In other words, Antifa is saying we're not acting in self-defense, doing the eye gouges with the thumbs and the chokeholds and poking in the eye and getting a good kidney shot.
They're trying to say that this is their entire philosophy is to use this as an offensive gesture.
And they're reframing it as self-defense.
It's something out of Orwell's 1984.
They're changing the very definition of self-defense.
This is what they're on the tape saying when they don't know they're being taped.
Amazing.
Stay right there.
Project Veritas.
You can find it on their website.
We have a link on Hannity.com if it makes it easy for you.
We'll show these on Hannity tonight, Nine Eastern Fox News.
All right, Fedel Moments, Project Veritas.
Now they have come out with part two of infiltrating the group Antifa, or as some say, Antifa.
So Monday, you will release more tapes.
Monday, now they will be getting specifically hinting on weapons trading, even specifically guns.
Can you give us a hint how many, well, more parts to this we might have?
And number one and number two, how violent is this?
Yeah, Sean, that's kind of our motus operandi is to release the tapes one at a time.
And to your before the end of the day, which I think is very smart because people pay close attention to each one, unless there's a news cycle that prevents it from happening, which I know has happened occasionally to you, but people tend to now pick up on it more.
And as it goes on, you usually get it gets worse and worse and worse.
And cumulatively, you see how dangerous this all is.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's the reaction to the story.
And because the press is so corrupt, because they've abandoned their mission, they don't react the way, but sometimes they do.
And to your point, on Monday, we're going to release another tape.
It's going to get into the weapons training and how they do their training and their philosophy.
And again, this is a group that people deny exists in any organized shape or form.
So we're going to just keep releasing tapes until we force them, Sean.
We'd love a criminal referral, by the way, the Justice Department.
Maybe there's a member of Congress or something.
I'm going to make sure that they know these exist.
I'm sure they do already, though.
I'm pretty sure.
I have to bet.
James O'Keefe, ProjectVeritas.com.
And by the way, they're always looking for people that want to volunteer.
Yeah, please.
Five seconds.
It's Veritas Tips, V-E-R-I-T-A-S Tips at ProtonMail.com is our email.
If you want to get involved, if you're an insider whistleblower inside Antifa, send out a note.
All right.
James O'Keefe, thank you.
When we come back, we'll get to a lot of your calls.
More coming straight ahead on the Sean Hannity show.
All right, 25 now to the top of the hour, 800-941.
Sean, you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
Let's get to our phones.
I know many of you have been very, very patient.
Marty out in California.
Marty, thank you for joining us from the sanctuary state of California.
Yes, ground zero.
Sean, thank you for taking my call.
Thank you, sir.
What's on your mind?
Okay, my question is: Garcetti had mentioned that he's going to comply to the demands of the protesters, and one of them is to defund the LAPD.
And I'm saying this: well, don't we vote on that?
How is he to say we defund the LAPD or any program?
We pay for it, the taxpayers, we the people, for the people.
How's this work?
I don't want a couple, you know, a board voting on defunding the police department.
We need more police.
Obviously, we can see what happened in the last three, four days.
So, how does that work, Sean?
Listen, how it works is $150 million cut to the LAPD.
This is what it means.
Now, cops in New York have been assaulted and they're getting away with it.
They're being doused with water and they're getting away with it.
There's been other instances where bricks, rocks, and other things thrown at the cops, they get away with it.
Now, when the cops go out during the middle of the looting and the rioting and the arson, and they do their job and they arrest those that are involved in these activities, well, those people usually, because of this idiotic no-bail-at-all reform that Cuomo signed, they get put right back out on the streets.
Now, let's say you pick them up on night two.
They get let out on the street again, night three, they let them out again.
And we've had bank robbers that are thankful for the new bail law because they say, Great, I get to rob another bank as soon as you let me out.
And it's been happening.
You can't make it up.
But, Sean, aren't they supposed to ask us?
We're the employer, they are the employee.
Don't they ask us?
You know, look, I live in a similar state like you, the two worst states in the union when it comes to taxes, burdensome regulation, and just utter incompetence, stupidity, waste, fraud, abuse.
All right, so I'm in New York, you're in California.
Well, they do ask the people.
Every four years, you get to vote.
And the people of California usually vote Democratic.
And you put in one Democratic governor, one Democratic mayor after another, after another, after another.
And then Californians, okay, sanctuary cities, a sanctuary state, Gavin Newsome, $500 checks that go to illegal immigrants for COVID relief.
You have free health care, free education, criminal justice system that, you know, billions of dollars spent on illegal immigrants, but they have sanctuary.
Even violent criminals, they serve their time in jail.
They get out.
They're not handed over to ICE or permanent renewal.
So the answer is they ask the people what they want.
And every four years, two years, whatever it is, we, all of your neighbors are voting these people back into office.
Here's your answer.
But don't we vote for funding?
That's our right to fund.
You vote for council members.
You vote for mayors.
You vote for governors, and they make the decisions.
Well, don't we, on the petitions, we have funding for infrastructure.
California has a proposition ballot system.
You can go out and you can get enough signatures.
You put something on a ballot, then you'd have a direct up or down vote on it.
Remember, what was it, Prop 13 years ago on property taxes?
I don't remember the exact one.
There's been a lot.
187, I remember, when that immigration.
So, look, you have to get enough of your fellow Californians to do this with you and then appeal to the people of California, which I don't know if that's going to work out because here's another problem.
New York and California, people that have any conservative leanings that hate the direction of high taxes and waste fraud and abuse and a tremendous bureaucracy, if you want to put a pool in, good luck to you.
Sean, this is what really bothers me, that they've taken out U.S. history out of the school system.
Our history, our history is being taken out of our educational system, American history.
When our veterans went into war, they didn't kneel on the battlefield in Normandy.
So when we're kneeling in front of that flag, the kids are seeing, well, we can kneel in front of that flag.
On the battlefield, it might be all we have is that red, white, and blue.
And I don't.
You know, look at what happened to Drew Brees this week, you know, saying, look, I know what the flag means to me because so many Americans fought, bled, died fighting under that flag.
And I am all for protests.
I'm all for freedom of speech, peaceful protests.
I'm all for it.
You know, that is foundational to this country.
But here's what's happening.
Here's why, even if you had an organized effort, Prop 13, property tax reform, Prop 187, immigration reform out there.
Okay.
Let's say you can gather the signatures that you need to get a proposition on the ballot, whatever the process is completely.
I don't remember.
I lived out there five years, but it was a long time ago in the late 80s.
With Council President Neri Martinez, with council members Herb Wesson, Marquise Harris Dawson, and Curran Price, and so many other members of the council from Mike Bonnin to Mitch O'Farrell and others, we have all said we have to do something different.
We hear what people are saying.
And so I have instructed and committed to in public to that group that our city, through our city administrative officer, identify $250 million in cuts so we could invest in jobs, in health, in education, and in healing.
And that those dollars need to be focused on our black community here in Los Angeles, as well as communities of color and women and people who have been left behind for too long.
And will this involve cuts?
Yes, of course.
To every department, including the police department, because we all have to be a part of this solution together.
You know, so you get it on the ballot, but here's the problem.
A lot of conservatives in New York and California, they're saying goodbye.
They've left.
They're leaving.
They've been pushed out of states that many of them love because of a hostile business environment, hostile confiscatory taxation.
You know, look at the cost of a U-Haul.
You want to leave L.A., you want to leave San Francisco, you want to move to the great state of Texas.
Okay, well, it's going to cost you about $2,500 for a U-Haul on average.
Now, if you're going from Texas and you want to move to the Socialist Republic of California, the sanctuary state that it is, everything's free, well, it only costs you about $400.
Now, why would there be such a disparity in the cost if it's the same truck, the same distance, moving from one state to the same state?
Why?
Well, the reason is the demand is so great to get the trucks to move out of California.
And there's not a lot of people moving from Texas to California because they don't want to move into that shift show.
Literally, he's one of your congressmen, like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters.
They're all out from California.
And basically, if you're going from Texas to California with that U-Haul, you're doing U-Haul a massive favor because you're basically moving it back into where they're going to make most of their profit, even if they take a loss on your trip.
That speaks volumes.
You watch after all this.
You know, Geraldo said it earlier today, is that if you had an $8 million, $10 million apartment in New York City, you know what it's worth now?
Maybe five.
And I think when all is said and done in the next number of years, you'll see a mass exodus, not just out of the city, but out of the state.
And it's going to be, it will shock, you know, this once, you know, greatest city in the world.
It's not anymore.
And, you know, if you think it can't happen, I'll go to Exhibit A. Exhibit A will be Motown.
It will be Detroit, one of the greatest cities ever, one of the most prosperous.
Well, the unions, car industry lost their way.
And one after another, costs got too high.
And manufacturers moved to Mexico and other countries or other more friendly states to build their factories.
Well, Detroit lost fully half of their population.
The net result is you could buy homes for a dollar on eBay at certain points.
Next consequence, they now have an inability to service people in needs.
So what do they do?
They consolidate services and actually bulldozed complete neighborhoods, knocked them over, and then literally now have reduced the footprint of what Detroit actually once was.
That's how bad it can get.
Do I predict that?
I'm not predicting that because New York's such an international city, New York City in particular.
But I can see a day when Wall Street says, why are we staying here?
We're paying too much in taxes.
And here's another little dirty secret of how corrupt and unfair the system is.
Now, if let's say, and I've told this story many times, Linda, how many times do we have Rick Perry, Rick Scott, Bobby Jendel in studio in New York when they were governors?
A lot, right?
Oh my God, yeah.
Yeah, they came up every month.
You know why?
Because they were recruiting businesses and incentivizing them how much they could save if they would do business in their states.
And the reason they kept coming back every month is because they were all dramatically successful.
And they're saying, you know what?
You'll have a better way of life.
You have better weather.
You have everything you could ever want.
You want to go back to New York, see a play one day, take a plane.
It'll be pennies on the dollar based on the amount of money just in rent alone and taxes alone that you're not paying.
So, you know, teleworking now is here.
One of the most amazing developments out of COVID is people, workers have realized that they like more open spaces, cheaper rent.
And if they're moving to states just on the perimeter of New York, they're saving a lot in taxes.
And companies are realizing, you know what?
We don't have to pay $4 million a square foot for office space.
We don't need half of it anymore.
We don't need any of it.
And maybe somebody in some of these corporations and these corporate boards will make the decision, the light will go on.
Why don't we move our headquarters to Florida, to Texas, or some other tax-friendly state?
Wow, here's how much we will save as a corporation.
Now, the dirty secret there, too, is: wow, Democrats are sneaky.
They'll go in and they'll offer special deals to keep them.
In other words, stay here.
You get this special, unique tax break.
In other words, I don't get that tax break, but companies that threaten to leave, they're getting special offers all the time.
So they're not even paying the amount of taxes that everybody else, all the rest of us suckers, end up paying.
But I'm telling you, but now let me take it even a step further.
Because what's happened in New York, what's happened in California and Illinois and New Jersey in part two with the mass exodus is now if they get elected in 151 days and they implement the exact insane policies, except now we'll have no oil, no gas, forget Obamacare, losing your doctor, losing your plan and paying 200% more, which happened to millions.
There were 40% of the population.
Now it was one Obamacare exchange choice.
Okay, now we're going to do that and we'll do it on steroids.
And the steroids and human growth hormone aspect of this is, well, eliminate oil and gas.
Now you will actually, those states will become little experiments that result in a country.
Because one thing I've learned about rich people in my life is they're not stupid.
They didn't get rich being stupid.
Some of them, I'm talking about people that actually earn their money, not trust fun kids, but they're not stupid people.
They're good, smart people that figure out ways to create goods and services that people want, need, and desire and make a lot of money doing it and provide all those goods and services.
Well, if it gets to a tipping point, they're going to say, the hell with this.
And they're going to leave and they're going to take off and they'll leave the United States and they'll take with them their manufacturing centers and jobs that would be associated with it.
That's what's going to happen.
You want to hate the rich, hate the rich, rob the rich, tax the rich to death.
The rich are going to say goodbye.
At some point, that tipping point comes.
Now, I know this sounds like a very optimistic message, but it can all be stopped in 151 days.
I don't know what the election outcome is going to be.
Neither does anybody else.
All I know is that what is at stake is the future of the country.
You cannot have a bigger choice election than the one that you will decide in 151 days.
That's it.
It's all on the line.
All right, tonight, Hannity, Fox News, 9 Eastern.
Hope you set your DVR.
We are loaded up, and that is news and information and investigations you won't get from the mob in the media.
We got Geraldo, Dambongino, Pete Hegseth, Burgess Owens tonight.
We have Dave Rubin, Mike Huckabee, Leo Terrell, and Larry Elder.
