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Uh glad you're with us uh as we watch the historic U.S. space launch uh scheduled for about 43.
Last I checked uh this afternoon Eastern Standard Time, 133 uh Pacific time.
Um you know, this is a pretty fascinating thing.
When you look at what this is all about, Elon Musk is SpaceX.
It's about to launch humans for NASA.
It's an incredible, incredible example of public-private partnerships.
You know, we have talked a lot about how amazing, you know, how amazing the American people are.
I actually spent a lot of time, I spent time tweeting today because if we're gonna sum up coronavirus, one of the things that we learned here, we've we've rewritten the books on how we will deal with pandemics.
We have rewritten, we have now shown American ingenuity at its best.
We see that I saw a plan today by the Wynn Hotel in Vegas and how they plan to open up and open up safely.
I was I was really really amazed by it, loved it.
Um, and I just thought it was just really good, solid, great Americans doing what they do best every single day, and and they make our lives better every single day.
Um, you know, and what if we're gonna sum it up, and this is what I sent out on Twitter today, what are the lessons we learned, and then I'll I'll dovetail this into the SpaceX program and this launch that we expect, hopefully this afternoon.
They last I heard they were saying is about 5050, uh based on weather conditions, etc.
But we learned what the experts, the doctors, models, projections were all dead wrong.
I'm summing it up here.
We learned that China lied to the entire world in a spectacular way that resulted in many, many, many, many hundreds of thousands dying needlessly.
As that British study said, we could have prevented 95% of this.
We also learned that we better start manufacturing our own medical equipment and our own medicines at home, including the key ingredients, which we soon learned we did not have all of them available to us because a lot of this had been outsourced to China.
Um another reason, if you want to think about a president being really ahead of the curve, Donald Trump and China, I don't think anybody was any more right, and the same thing with the border and the wall and on a lot of issues.
Donald Trump's been ahead of the curve.
And, you know, if we're going to continue, if we learn that protecting, you know, in other words, so the the second part, we've got to start manufacturing our own medical equipment, our own medicines at home.
So we are never ever reliant ever again on other countries for such vital medicines and equipment.
We can't do that.
We learn that protecting older Americans.
Now, this this all vacillated with the experts all throughout this time here.
Um, you know, even Dr. Fauci saying you don't need a mask um in mid-March.
And the risk is low in February 29th, uh, this past leap year.
Um, but we learned that protecting older Americans was crucial.
That was the one thing that remained constant.
Older people, underlying medical conditions, compromised immune systems, they were most at risk.
And they did that perfectly in states like Florida and Texas.
I use Florida as the greatest example because every department in the state played a role in going and working with the nursing homes, long-term care facilities, communities like the villages.
They did an amazing job.
Uh, we learned that when we do not protect older Americans, like the executive orders, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, the unmitigated disaster that is Michigan, it is a disaster.
And had we not put COVID-19 patients in homes with other sick older, vulnerable people, we don't know how many thousands and thousands of lives could have been saved.
That was that was a huge mistake.
We got to learn from our mistakes also.
Um we learned, you know, on so many levels, you gotta learn from the things you do right, the things you do wrong.
We learned that when we do not protect them, there's trouble.
We learn that travel bans and quarantines are smart, the new normal as far as I'm concerned, not hysterical xenophobic fear mongering.
We learned that medical supply chains, food supply chains that never shut down, they worked perfectly in large part because those people in those manufacturing facilities, those employees did wear their masks.
So masks work.
We got to learn from it.
We also were reminded that all medical workers, doctors, nurses, janitors inside these hospitals, are heroes.
We learn that those medical manufacturers of all that medical equipment, you know, at a record pace.
They're all heroes too.
We learn that the farmers, packers, truckers, grocery store clerks, and guys that stock the shells daily to feed us, they're heroes.
We learn that this country is great because of the people in this country.
We the people, you make it great.
The people of this country are, I mean, it's the greatest country God has ever given man.
There's just no other way to put it.
And I think it should inspire every single American in terms of uh, you know, what we're capable of.
This was the largest, the fastest medical mobilization in the history of mankind.
It happened right here before our very eyes, starting in March, and it's not June yet.
Uh we learned, oh, Governor Cuomo, he needs to refund the state income tax bill that he's sending to out of state medical professionals that came to the epicenter of the coronavirus to work in the hospitals here to help save lives and put themselves in harm's way in New York's hour of need.
Is that Governor?
Is that how you say thank you?
I mean, because it's absurd.
Those are the lessons.
And we learn that these public-private partnerships work amazingly well because of the ingenuity of the American people.
Who would have ever thunk it that Ford and GM are going to manufacture ventilators?
But they did.
Which brings us back to where I started, which is all right, we're watching T minus, you know, one hour and 23 minutes, whatever it happens to be, till this SpaceX is about to launch humans for NASA.
Um it is, by the way, this started in 2002.
Elon Musk, and and let me tell you something.
This has now been a goal 18 years in the making.
He said he started this company, set his sights on human space flight, and demo two, this mission, we'll see the company's crew dragon spacecraft launched from Cape Canaveral.
The governor will be there.
I understand the president's gonna be there.
These two astronauts on board, Bob Benkin and Doug Hurley.
For the first time, it'll be the first launch of humans to orbit from American soil since the retirement of the space shuttle in July of 2011.
And this is now a new exciting era of human spaceflight.
Now it was it was literally a private spacecraft carrying astronauts, and SpaceX was they worked hand in hand with NASA to build the spacecraft.
It's called Crew Dragon.
It's taken them over a decade.
And by the way, what is gonna go down today is, you know, not it is not without risk.
There's risk here, as we learned from the the challenger.
And our thoughts and our prayers to these astronauts and all these engineers at NASA and all the people working at SpaceX that have devoted every second minute and hour of their lives trying to make this all go perfectly today.
And if I had to bet, I'd say, of course it's gonna go well because we have the best.
Occasionally things are not perfect.
We're not perfect people.
Anyway, it's gonna head to the space station, and it will take the about 19 hours to reach that uh international space station.
And the space station crew, like astronauts on any other mission, they're gonna live and work with these other international space station uh astronauts for the duration of their time there.
Um, and these two guys, they they have flown to space several times before.
Uh Hurley was even the pilot on the final space shuttle flight.
And um it's it's a phenomenal tribute to human ingenuity and and genius and creativity and engineering and science and all the things that we marvel at.
They're about to break a nine year hiatus for NASA, as they're the first astronauts now to launch from U.S. soil since the retirement of the shuttle.
In the intervening years, and this is kind of pathetic in my mind.
Maybe I'm just too pro-American, but NASA bought seats for our astronauts at a cost of what, 50 million bucks of flight from the Russians.
They were flying our astronauts.
Now they've worked with now our this is all hands on deck.
You had Boeing being a part of this, SpaceX being a part of this, NASA being a part of this, a vision by Elon Musk being a part of this, and all the smart people that he hired, and the idea is that eventually this would build into something even bigger.
I don't know.
Linda, did you ever watch any of these uh Nat Geo or History channel?
One of the others, I don't remember which channel, one of those channels.
Yeah, Nat Geo does a bunch of stuff on this.
I love the stuff on Mars rovers.
And I mean, I've watched it over and over and over Sojourner's spirit, opportunity, curiosity.
Um, and these and you watch these things land on Mars and then it takes you through this whole process, and then they get stuck in the mud, and how do they figure it out from Earth to get this thing rolling again and how they the the first one they did lasted so much longer than they ever thought it would ever work?
Um it's incredible.
I mean, there's galaxies, you know, we we have universes within universes within universes.
And by the way, China's set to launch a Mars probe and their own rover mission in July.
Well, that's what they're saying.
They're saying there's gonna be one from Europe, one from us, and one from China all this year.
It takes like seven to ten months to get to Mars, and it's we're gonna have all three of these count these countries doing it.
It's just crazy.
Why is the competitive side of me want to win?
Of course we want to win.
I want to win.
I can't help it.
It's who I am, it's in my DNA.
Uh and I think we did a terrible service in terms of the American people by by dismantling this even for a period of time.
Uh all right, we'll get to all of that, and we'll be watching it throughout the afternoon.
Bill O'Reilly also is going to check in today.
We have a lot of news today.
A lot on Twitter and freedom of speech and censorship and all these companies playing all these games against conservatives, are being called out by the president, by the vice president, rightly so.
Uh I love how we have CNN Washington Post now fact-checking for Jack Dorsey.
Now, Linda, you're friends with Jack Dorsey.
I've met Jack.
I would say friends is a stretch.
We're colleagues, we're business colleagues.
Okay.
He you you got him to come on this program, and I I met with him.
Yes.
I think he's a smart guy.
I explained at that time, if you remember in a lot of detail where conservatives' concerns were, and you recall the issues probably better than I do.
Yeah, I mean, we went to dinner, we talked about it, and uh, you know, the one thing I said to him was you have to be fair and balanced.
You have to hate everybody equally.
Like if you're gonna have something said about the left, then have it said about the right, and vice versa.
And he was very open to that.
But the left is being real pushy.
They don't they don't like the pushback.
Okay, so that if they don't like what somebody tweets, you know, my answer is too bad.
If you don't like, you know, for them to be the fact checkers, okay.
That's an impos that's a task impossible.
Yeah.
Because CNN and the Washington Post are not the people you go to if you're gonna cite fact checking.
And that's exactly what Twitter did.
Now, I guess they have this new competitor to Twitter.
What is it called?
Gab or something like that?
Parler.
Parler, gab, I don't know.
But they but you know something, by the way, for me to tweet now, I have to run it through uh an army of handlers.
Nobody lets me tweet on my own.
I don't even have uh uh Linda, it's been how long since I've had access to any accountability.
I took that away a long time ago.
If you feel like a I'm I'm a child that has had my toys taken away after my last fights.
By the way, Jimmy Kimmel, to his credit, said I I never thought I'd say this, but listen to Sean Hannity.
Because he agrees with me.
And I know some of you disagree with me for this short period of time because we've got to reopen the country.
74% of small business experts, they're expecting a recovery.
But the cost is now too high.
And if wearing masks brings us to football stadiums, I'll wear it.
That's my line.
Not because any government official told me to, but also to protect grandma and grandpa.
You know, if my parents were alive, I'd do it for them.
My grandparents were alive, I do it for them.
I did not like what I saw in that pool in the Ozarks.
Not because I think the kids are not, you know, young people are not as susceptible to coronavirus.
But if they go see grandma, grandpa, then it's a problem.
If they get it, if they have it, and they may not know their, they may be asymptomatic, we've learned.
Just got to learn the lessons.
Because once we get past this completely, with whatever treatment, vaccine, et cetera, that that emerges, um, which will be a controversy in and of itself.
Don't drag me into that.
Uh, then life back to normal.
Let's get let's get our game on and be Americans.
That's who we are.
You know, freedom and fun and beaches and and barbecues.
That's what I want.
Country music.
You know, I just cannot get over the gall of New York.
Um, even to this day.
So Cuomo's going to Washington to meet with Trump.
And he's like, oh, okay, this is going to be great.
He said, this is one of the things I want to tell talk to the president about.
Let's do something creative.
Let's do it fast.
Let's put Americans back to work.
Let's make America better.
It's common sense.
Then the governor of New York, now, for all of you in states that elect governors that don't tax and legislate and bureaucrat you to death and regulate you on levels you never dreamed.
He said, Yeah, let's overhaul Penn Station.
Uh, let's uh let's have a transformative reconfiguration of LaGuardia Airport, which like is always under renovation.
Let's have the revitalization of of rail tunnels beneath the Hudson and expand the second avenue subway.
Um, governor, red state governors and voters have no business paying for your dream wish list of everybody paying for everything you want.
All right, 25 now to the top of the hour, 800 941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, T minus 58 minutes, 22 seconds uh for this launch.
Uh I you know it's um you just gotta pray at moments like this.
I know everybody, all these engineers at NASA, all these guys are Boeing, all these guys at SpaceX, they they put their heart and soul and brilliance behind all of this 18 years in the making, and it's it's just hanging in the balance for this one moment, and I have total faith, confidence, belief in everybody, and it just is we're not perfect people, and you have the best of the best, and it is uh, you know, these these astronauts are amazing.
Everybody involved in this is amazing, and I just want to see a successful launch.
I hope it goes off today.
What are the odds now?
Anyone get an update?
Is it still 55?
Yeah, we're still at 5050, and I was talking to our our good friend, former congressman uh Jim Breidenstein and Boydens Brienstein, Brianstein.
Freud and the guy, the guy's a class act, and he's over there, he's the administrator now of NASA, and I was talking to his team, and they're all there on the ground.
And obviously, everybody's locked and loaded as we get ready because you know, POTUS is on his way with the first lady, and they're getting ready.
They're all going to be there together, you know, sort of prepping for this big moment at 433.
So it's it's 50-50.
I can make a phone call to our uh our friend Joe Bastardi and see what he thinks as well if you like and find out.
That's a great idea.
Ask him and give us an update when you get it.
Okay.
I'll give him a buzz.
I'll give him a call.
Give him a shout, you know, see what he's doing.
Uh I this just fries me.
Cuomo now asking, uh, he wants.
Now, you gotta remember here, all these other states, red states, most of them, they elect politicians that balance their budgets.
They elect politicians that fund their pensions.
They live within their means.
If they don't, they quickly make up the losses or make adjustments and cuts.
We have now spent three trillion dollars on coronavirus Relief.
And I would argue that the we we really didn't have a choice because they were projecting as many as two and a half million Americans can die from this.
Now, were they right?
Were they wrong?
It doesn't matter.
That's what we were being told.
And you make decisions based on the knowledge you have at any given moment.
And China lied to us the whole time also.
That was another big component in this.
But now to say to the American taxpayer in these states, and I say this against my own best personal interest, because until I get the hell out of here, and by the way, New York doesn't want me here anyway.
This will be placed on the people in New York that are dumb enough to stay here, like me, because it's the second highest tax state in the country.
The number one state for people exiting the state because of burdensome taxation, poor government services, and the worst infrastructure you can imagine.
It's unbelievable.
Now Cuomo's going down to Washington.
Yeah, we'd like a we'd like a transformational reconfiguration of LaGuardia.
Uh we like Penn Station overhauled.
Uh the revitalization of the rail tunnels beneath the Hudson River.
We'd like to expand the second Avenue subway, which is like been on hold for 40 years as part of his wish list.
I'm a red state citizens that elect responsible politicians.
Governor, that is not happening.
That cannot happen.
It's it's your fiscal uh mismanagement and abuse of funds and malfeasance economically that the people of New York vote for that has caused this.
You know, you 750 million dollars, New York tax dollars that goes to a what was it, a solar company in upstate New York when we could be fracking in New York and doing what Pennsylvania did smartly, or 600 million on a microchip company, or 90%.
And Sean, don't forget, 900 million from Shirley McRae, De Blasio's wife.
That's still a mistake.
That's Conrad de Blasio's wife.
Correct.
Now, originally, now that's just a state.
Now the city is now saying, projecting that they're gonna be shy nearly $9 billion, and uh is pleading and begging for aid.
I'm like, are you gotta be kidding me?
Now we're nine billion dollars in the whole.
Well, then cut your budgets.
Do you know New York City has hundreds and hundreds of teachers that do nothing and get paid because they have been sidelined because of whatever allegation might exist?
Close the cases out.
It's unbelievable.
You know, what did the New York Health Commissioner say?
You know, I don't give two rats asses about the police department.
People, they prepared for nothing.
You know, now we find out in New York, Governor Cuomo signed legislation granting hospitals and nursing home executives immunity from lawsuits related to coronavirus last month.
What?
And then we find out that Cuomo got a million dollars from the Greater New York hospital area, a lobbying group for hospital systems.
Well, apparently that's now money well spent.
Um, but I'm sorry, uh I don't think he'll make that ultimate determination because that executive order, like the one in New Jersey, another dumb decision.
It was New York March 25th.
It was March 29th, New Jersey, it was April the 6th, Pennsylvania.
Um the dumbest decision to force COVID patients in the nursing homes.
This is this is unbelievable.
And now, by the way, New York, their health website is deleted the governor's March 25th executive order that required nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients.
These people were screaming, we we can't handle this.
On top of the fact you had the hospital beds manned by the president, built by the president, 3,000 of them.
They didn't use 2,000 of them.
They didn't only used 182 of the 1,000 on the comfort, and there were other um they were there were absolutely other places that they could have been sent.
New Jersey was told to use the Javett Center, same thing.
But you give immunity to nursing home execs, and they gave you, you know, a million dollars when you needed it to run in a primary.
Unbelievable.
I'm I'm telling everybody around the country, you want to listen to me, listen to me.
Don't this is not your problem.
New York City, they're a sanctuary city.
California, a sanctuary state.
Gavin Newsom, that means free health care for illegal immigrants, paid for courtesy of California taxpayers, New York City taxpayers.
How about you stop there?
How about you start rescinding and cutting there?
Five hundred dollar checks to illegal immigrants out in California.
You know, I'm I'm s look, if we don't get this this country up and running, it is going to be an unmitigated disaster for the United States.
Now, to the credit of what, thirty-five or so states, they've got their act together.
And they're now opening up.
I gave you the lessons that I learned.
I know some of you disagree with me on the masks.
I don't care if you disagree with me on the masks.
Disagree with me.
It's not a Hannity mandate.
I'm just telling you that I think one of the reasons that clerks and cashiers in these grocery stores that I went into every week and my local right aid pharmacy, uh, the fact they had mas I think that protected them.
Hey, so you want to I apologize for the interruption, but our president is speaking right now at the SpaceX Launch.
Would you like to go to it?
T minus fifty minutes and twenty seconds.
Yes, let's listen.
What they've done is incredible.
Very short period of time.
We came here three and a half years ago is almost a ghost town.
Now it's the number one place in the world for what we're doing.
So we're very proud of it.
What is your message for the afternoon today, sir?
Good luck.
God be with you.
It's uh dangerous business, but they're the best there is.
So uh we just want them to be safe.
Even the prices, the country's going, what is an event like this being here?
Well, I think it's very important militarily, too.
We have Space Force, and from a military offensive and defensive standpoint, we're learning a lot.
We have the most powerful rockets now by far.
We have the best in the world, we have the most brilliant people in the world.
They're all right here.
So it's an honor to be associated.
I want to thank Vice President and uh Karen, thank you very much.
The job you do have done.
They've left they worked long and hard.
And she was by his side all the way.
Would you say that's correct, Mike?
So I want to thank the Vice President and Karen.
They've been fantastic.
Can this present one radio have a comment about the events in Minnesota police?
Very sad event.
Very, very sad, sad event.
Should the police officers be prosecuted, sir?
And we're gonna get a very full report.
But a very sad day.
Thank you very much.
The President, uh, we're now T minus, what, 40 uh they just took it off the screen.
I missed it.
Anyway, 49.
Uh within the hour.
Um now where it's uh the one hour countdown.
Joe Bastardi is on the line.
Joe, just give me a very quick synopsis.
Do they take off or no?
Well, I don't think there's gonna be anything in the area in about 45 minutes.
It looks like it's a weak shower that's trying to uh cross toward Cape uh the Cape right now.
The heavy stuff is offshore into the southeast.
And it looks like there's gonna be a nice little one to two hour period where they can shoot this thing up if they want to.
So it looks like so you think it can happen on time in other words in 48 minutes.
Yeah, well, the the thing is that they they have to make the final dis determination because wind is involved also.
If they think that there's going to be some wind shear and things like that that go on, you know, that's that's something that goes on at the airports.
But right now, if you look at the radar, if you're if you intend on shooting off a rocket at three four four thirty in the afternoon in Florida in in the in uh May like this, the radar with all the stuff moving offshore into the south, and nothing up wind from it is moving in from the west southwest is a shower that is just across the sound there from the Cape, and it's weakening as it comes toward the Cape, and then there's nothing until you get west of Orlando, even though these things can pop up pretty quickly, it looks pretty good.
Joe Bastardi, Weatherbell.com, our official weather guy at the Sean Hannity Show, thank you.
You know, yesterday I told you this study, the guy from Duke and Stanford and and all these experts talking about, you know, uh as a result of COVID nineteen and the shutdown, you know, they they they've come up with a cost analysis, death analysis as a result of all of this.
Statistically, every ten million dollars, doctors and economists, uh, and you can look all this up yourself if you want.
They they have gone over the numbers, and they're saying every 10 million to 24 million lost in income results in one additional death.
And one portion of this effect is through unemployment, which leads to an increase in mortality of at least 60%, which translates into 7200 lives lost per month.
Uh, then you move it out from there.
Um, humans are not meant to be alone, this study said.
Uh many Americans haven't seen or touched another person in three months.
USA Today column this.
I was in the stay at home until it's safe camp, but I can't take it anymore.
Uh drug overdoses have climbed, suicides have climbed, homeless deaths have climbed.
Um and it's, you know, these are scary times.
But don't worry, your World Health Organization is back to praising China.
If we ever give them a dime, I'm gonna have a meltdown.
I'm gonna go full on a mad as hell, I can't take it anymore.
Uh a Nobel Prize winning biophysicist is warned of this corona shutdown becoming more deadly than the virus.
On top of the the study I told you yesterday.
This is also Stanford University biophysicist, Michael Levitt.
Uh no, this is the one from you, a British American Israeli who won the 2013 uh Nobel Prize in Chemistry said he believed other health precautions like enforcing the use of masks would have been more effective in com combating the pandemic.
Look, I'm just telling you anecdotally how I feel about the mask, because I saw these guys every week.
Nobody in the stores I went to got corona, and they they took precautions.
Um we can learn from that to protect grandma and grandpa.
All right, mom and dad.
Uh now there's a fight over where we're gonna move the conventions.
Uh I found this, this is amazing, actually.
A win uh Vegas Hotel General uh Hotel Operations Officer said that they're looking to reopen in Vegas.
And the markups I've seen fascinate me because it shows American brilliance and innovation once again.
They'll have not those non-invasive thermal temperature scans, the ones I've been telling you about.
No guests with a temperature of 100.4 or more will be allowed in the resort.
All employees' face coverings, complimentary guest face uh coverings, 300 hand sanitizer stations throughout the resort, a team of cleaning professionals doing this at Fox News and at radio every day.
We have antivirals sprayed in our control rooms daily.
And so far, God thank God it's it's you know working.
Um the president now reviewing, putting a halt to foreign work inflow so we can get Americans back to work.
Another downside of this grand theft auto car robberies are up 63% in New York City, 17% in Los Angeles.
The Guardian headline, Andrew Cuomo's no hero.
He's to blame for New York's coronavirus catastrophe.
What does he do?
Blame Trump, of course.
Uh now the Georgia governor and the Florida governors are fighting to host a convention if the Democratic North Carolina governor can't promise the president that they're gonna be able to have a crowd, and I don't blame them.
Now there's other ways to do it.
You can do it outside, put people in masks.
I don't care.
If I can go to a baseball or football game, I don't care.
I'm tired of arguing about it.
Um I'm all in for that.
Because it's only temporary.
It's it's better than the alternative, which is sitting home.
I'm sick of it.
I'm sure many of you are also.
This dopey shutdown Whitmer in Michigan is extended another stay-at-home order.
Now, and that's another thing.
If these states are unwilling to open safely like the 35 other states, don't ask the American taxpayers to pay for it.
In Miami, their hard rock stadium is morphing into a drive-in theater.
I did think that was funny.
Uh oh, and the governor of Michigan is lying through her teeth.
Ha, my husband, it was a joke.
Ha ha.
I didn't think it was funny, though.
No, it was a cover-up of her husband's looking for special treatment because his wife's the governor.
It's like Northam, you know, mandating masks, but gets caught without one.
Unbelievable.
He's such hypocrites.
All right, Leonard Skinner's simple man.
It can only mean one Thing and that means all things, Bill O'Reilly, BillO'Reilly.com, T minus 26 minutes and well, three, two, one, twenty-six minutes.
Mr. O'Reilly, simple man, sir.
How are you?
Try not to complicate things, Hannity.
How are you doing, man?
I'm good.
You know, I are you as revved up about this this launch as I am, the SpaceX, this uh public-private partnership, Boeing, NASA, Elon Musk.
Um amazing.
Uh you know, I just I love the idea of America doing great things.
Well, I really got excited when I heard that they were gonna put the prime time lineup of CNN on the space.
Stop, Bill, Bill, Bill.
If you're gonna get in trouble, you have your own show to get in trouble on.
What do you say?
You know, there's always with you complications because you're not a simple man, but go ahead.
Oh, come on now.
That's just a little jest.
They they uh who did that over there, I'm sure.
Um it just, you know, and it it's always scary.
I mean, we we watched the challenger, but I have such faith.
I mean, we've done so much, you know, who would ever look at the moon bill O'Reilly?
This is a simple concept.
You look at the moon on a really clear night, and if you look through a telescope out, I'm sure you've done this.
You see the craters in the moon, and then you can see that red planet Mars, and the rover landed there, and the other rovers landed there.
And the fact that we some guys, a bunch of you know, human beings thought we're gonna not only go there, we're gonna land there, we're gonna walk around, and then we're gonna come home.
And they did it again and again.
And now we're going, you know, to the space station.
Listen, American technology is obviously advanced the state of mankind.
Um look at all the dopey machines we have now, and all the things we can do would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
By the way, the dopey machines, you mean like artificial intelligence?
Yeah, I I mean, look, I I understand that um probably in another 20 years we're not even gonna be here.
It's just gonna be the the robots taking over.
But um that's the benefit that you do these things and then you discover other things from the exploration.
And um, you know, we do it.
Uh the Russians are pretty good.
You gotta give them that.
They're pretty good at it.
Um, but I think we're the best at it.
We want to be chauvinistic today and certainly say prayers for everybody involved.
Uh I agree on the prayer part.
This is 18 years in the making, launching humans to space.
Now, you know what that means, O'Reilly.
Guys like us, you know, if the if the communists, you know, the the the Bernie Biden, you know, Bolsheviks ever take over the country, they're gonna probably launch us into space with no chance of ever coming back.
That's right.
We're gonna be uh in one of those spacecrafts that uh just kind of wanders, doesn't it?
Floating in space.
Remember the show when we were growing up now, this little agents lost in space.
I never watched that show because I didn't like the little kid on it.
I thought he was uh, you know, a sound June Lockhart was in it, and then and I knew what happened.
But you know, there's no state income tax on the moon.
So that's well hang on.
Hang on, Cuomo will find the Cuomo's taxing.
Can you believe that he's taxing the the health care workers from the rest of the country that flew into the epicenter of this pandemic to help out New York in its hour of need, he's slapping New York City state tax on them.
I found out something about Cuomo today.
I don't know if you know this or not.
You ready?
Go ahead.
All right, so he goes down to DC to uh talk with Trump, right?
Right.
And it's a happy meeting in the sense that neither of them are gonna harpoon the other.
I think there's been a deal made, a silent deal.
Look, you lay off me, I'll lay off you.
But the reason that Cuomo went down is that he wants federal money for the tunnel, the train tunnel they need uh between Manhattan and New Jersey.
And he also wants federal money for the rapid transit he needs to LaGuardia Airport, a little kind of like a space car that would take people from Manhattan to LaGuardia.
He can't do it because the state of New York owes six billion dollars and they can't pay it.
So he goes down and he wants Trump to do this, and Trump may, because Trump wants these infrastructure projects, put people back to work.
So both have a common interest.
But in the process of researching this, I came across a pretty startling situation.
As you know, 5600 elderly people have died in New York State from COVID in nursing homes.
As you also know and have reported, um, the reason that happened was that Albany ordered those senior citizens to go back to their nursing homes, knowing that.
No, no, no.
It's uh it was Cuomo's executive order.
And by the way, the New York Health Website bill deleted the order.
It's it's in their minds it doesn't exist now.
Okay.
So the state of New York and the governor ordered the people back to the nursing home who had COVID and they infected other people, 5600 dead.
In the new state budget of New York, very secretly injected by the governor, by Cuomo, is the clause, you cannot sue the executives and their companies who run the nursing homes.
Did you know that?
And Bill, the very same group donated one million dollars to Cuomo for his 2018 primary, uh, the Greater New York Hospital Association lobbying group for hospital systems, and some of which are nursing homeowners, they donated to him a million dollars.
They inserted it in the budget bill, and by the way, this is not gonna stand litigation.
They're not that will not hold because so anyway, and you're way ahead of me because that's what I was going to say.
So throughout his whole career, Andrew Cuomo is a very articulate guy, and you shouldn't underestimate him, um, if he does uh replace Biden as a candidate, which is possible.
Um he has done this kind of stuff.
He has taken donations to further his career in return for favors like this.
And if this were Donald Trump who did this, if somebody gave Donald Trump a million dollars and then the Trump organization bought a golf course from the guy who gave him uh a million dollars, where do you think that would be?
All right.
But this story, you've reported it, I've reported on Bill O'Reilly.com.
It'll never get into the mainstream media.
Now the Guardian did do something on it, but the Guardian is a, you know, it's shaky.
So um, you know, what I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of things going on right now in America that people just not aware of because they're preoccupied by COVID.
Bill, fully, if you look at the executive order by Cuomo came March 25th, the executive order by Murphy uh came on the 29th.
The executive order by uh the Pennsylvania governor, what's his name?
Wolf, that came on April 6th.
Whitmer is even worse than all of them combined.
Uh shut down Whitmer.
She's now extending the shutdown forever.
Your wish list is right, but it's even bigger, Bill, because he's now asking all the think of all these red states that elect risk fiscally responsible governors.
Many of them don't have any state income tax, like 10% of New York and 3% of New York City.
Uh and DeBlasio wants another nine million.
He wants Penn Station overhauled, LaGuardia over overhauled, the railways underneath the Hudson overhauled, the 40-year project to fix the second Avenue subway overhauled and and those taxpayers in red states that fund their pent pensions and balance their budgets and elect fiscally responsible uh legislators and governors, they're not paying for this, Bill.
And uh, by the way, my advice to them is no, hell no.
Tell your senators and congressmen no.
Yeah, listen, um, if you look and compare Florida in the last ten years from 2010 to 20 to New York, I mean, it's unbelievable.
Unbelievable the uh inefficiency of New York compared to the efficiency of Florida under a Republican administration.
So I'll just give you one.
Um that in Florida, they have increased spending by twenty-eight billion over ten years.
Okay, and their population has grown three million in now more than New York.
New York's spending increased 43 billion.
And they lost population.
And so it's fifteen billion a year less in Florida.
That's what you're saying is that Republican administrations that don't waste money and have all of these programs that don't work, they're not going to be sending money to California, New York, and Illinois to bail out these people.
And remember, 137 billion unfunded pensions in Illinois Illinois.
Oh, that's a good thing.
Look at the mayor of New York and his wife.
900 million dollar waste fraud abuse debacle.
Uh look what they did in Albany.
750 million dollars for a what was this?
Uh a microchip company, or they spent six million on one uh no, it was a solar panel project, seven hundred and fifty million, six hundred million on a microchip project.
Both of them went belly up.
Ninety million on a light bulb company, that went belly up.
So I don't think it's crazy.
The liberal mindset is because it's government money, it doesn't matter.
And that's the big difference between conservatives and liberals.
Can we get to Biden for a minute?
Did you see the CNN interview on Biden uh yesterday?
I did.
Can I ask you one more question about New York though?
By the way, it's T minus 15 uh minutes and 50 seconds.
Um everybody I know now businesses have figured out teleworking works.
You don't have to pay big prices for rental space, office space.
You live in a closet and it costs you three grand in New York, and people are gonna leave.
And people are gonna leave New York.
Does New York become like Detroit?
Uh not that bad because you have that international money coming in.
I wrote a column on BillO'Reilly.com it's posted Escape from New York off the 1981 movie um uh star uh when they drop Kurt Russell into New York to find the president who's been kidnappedy movie, but uh New York is gonna their real estate values are gonna plummet.
Uh companies and corporations will move out, so will people.
They lost 181,000 people, New York did last year.
I think that'll double in 2021.
There'll be an exodus out.
Um power will go down, but because of the international finance, they won't go they won't lose half their population like Detroit did.
All right.
Personal question.
And you don't have to answer if you don't want.
Last time you were on, I said, Bill, because every year my accountant says the same thing.
Whatever you do, don't die in New York as a New York resident.
Now, he I say why?
Because there's another ten percent death tax in New York.
There's a New York City death tax.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
And my and you I asked you, why don't you go to Florida?
And your answer was I'm loyal.
And I'm are they loyal to you?
No.
Um who are you being loyal to?
Uh friends and family.
What loyal for bring them to Florida with you.
You're a simple rich guy.
Florida, Annity.
Okay, a big cuped wagon thing.
We're going down.
Uh bring them to Florida.
You know, everybody can't go.
Oh, Riley, you get on a jet, you pack the jet, boom, you got a camp.
I'll get you a camper.
I'll get you a concert bust, anything.
All right, they just scrubbed uh as we were going to break the uh the launch, SpaceX.
But you know what that means to me?
Means that all the right decisions are being made.
Bill O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.com, all things O'Reilly, uh simple man, Mr. O'Reilly.
All right, you wanted to talk about Biden, uh, we didn't have time last segment.
Your thoughts on this CNN.
He's on CNN last night.
Very simple question posed.
If you were president, what would you do differently to handle a pandemic?
So Mr. Biden was lucid.
He had control over his words last night.
Amazing.
I wrote killing Reagan, so I'm familiar with because when Ronald Reagan got shot, he lost that ability for a little while, got it back.
So Biden could not or would not answer that question.
And I'm sitting there going, what's going on?
I mean, you don't have anything that you would do differently.
He said, Oh, I'd listen to the scientists.
Like, who?
What it was that imply that Trump doesn't listen to the scientists?
What's Fauci and Burks doing out there?
I mean, come on.
By the way, Bill he lit the thing.
Not walking.
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Well, he didn't have anything.
But he listened to the scientists.
That's why When they said, and this is where there was no option here, the country demanded a shutdown.
The projections, which have all been wrong so far, uh were two and a half million Americans were gonna die, Bill.
That's what they told us.
They got it wrong.
China lied, all the models were wrong.
You know, Fauci, I love the guy, but he was saying the risk is low on February 29th, and he was saying that you know, you don't have to wear a mask like March 10th and March 9th, saying if you're young and healthy, you can go on a cruise ship.
Yeah, but that was a teed up for Biden to absolutely knock it out of the park.
Here's what I would do differently than President Trump.
A, B, C, D. He couldn't come up with one Hannity.
You want to know why?
Because while they were impeaching him, he put in the travel ban.
This was 10 days after the first identified coronavirus case, then the quarantine, first in over 50 years, then subsequent travel bans, all during impeachment.
They weren't talking about corona.
Nobody was.
I was, you are.
The and and you would think if the interviewer would jump in and go, Mr. Vice President, do you have one thing that you can point to that you do differently?
One thing?
But no.
No.
No way.
By the way, Bill O'Reilly, you don't mind me saying this.
I know you think you're a simple man.
You're you're very complicated.
Oh, you stop.
You are so complicated.
If I used to watch the O'Reilly factor, I'd have to I'd have to figure out talking points says I'm like talking points can't talk.
There's no talking points talking.
That's Bill talking.
All right, BillO'Reilly.com.
Mr. O'Reilly, thank you.
We'll continue on the other side.
Your call's coming up.
All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
All right, the NASA SpaceX launch.
What do we get down to T minus 13?
12?
Third team, boss.
Third team boss.
Uh, and uh it was scrubbed for all the right reasons.
Weather uh Well, it was lightning and the light, it's just too dangerous.
You you know, it's really funny.
Um Kobe Bryant's one of the greatest basketball players of all time, right?
I mean, talent, I I mean, just amazing.
And as, you know, as somebody that you know I love flight so much, not as much as Neil Bortz, but he has a I'd never want to fly, but I'm fascinated by it all.
And I, you know, you just see like decisions that were made, you you gotta always err on the side of caution.
And, you know, I I I didn't like when I had read that day, sadly, that the police helicopters had been grounded.
I'm like, why did they why did I don't understand that part of it, and I know there's avionics that that literally will steer and maneuver, in this case a helicopter around terrain or mountains, even if you if you don't see it.
Um, but they asked, I think for a visual fly, and the obviously cloud cover was low.
It's just sad, and I just always prefer err on the side of caution.
If you're not gonna get anywhere, too bad.
That's the end of that.
Um, and I don't know the circumstances there.
I just know it was tragic.
I just know that I, you know, when you hear that other people had made it a different decision, uh, you wonder why.
Um, and it ended in a tragedy.
And I I know that this happens, some people own private aircraft and they're like be forcing pilots to make decisions they never want to move make.
And I'm like, that's not your area of expertise.
Go sit in the back, have a drink.
Um, and you know, we've all been delayed on tarmac for hours and hours and hours and hours, and it sucks, but you know what?
I'd rather get there safely.
Um back to the shutdown issue for a second here, because there's a lot of information that is very, very important here.
And we better we better start to understand the impact of all of this with coronavirus on the entire country because you know, we're now seeing these studies that are scaring me, and that is that the cure, the shutdown, you know, the leveling and flattening of the curve and and all this is now getting worse.
And Americans also they're they're dying to get back to living, which I don't blame them.
Now, do I do I think we could have done any better?
Um I do.
I think we've got to learn the lessons of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and you know, shut down Whitmer, whose husband wants the right to take only his boat out.
Well, people can't cut their lawn.
It's infuriating.
And we we learned that when you the mobilization of the National Guard in Florida, every state agency targeting the most vulnerable, that worked.
We learned from New York that wearing the stupid masks work.
You know, we got to learn the lessons of this so we can open up safely.
We're now seeing with a lot of people that, you know, if you have one Nobel prize winning biophysicist, as I was telling you.
This was, you know, we told you about the story yesterday in chemistry, Michael Levitt and you know, a British American Israeli won the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry said he believed our other health precautions like enforcing the use of masks would have been more effective in combating the pandemic.
All right.
Well, we were predicting at the time two and a half million people would die.
I think lockdown saved no lives.
I think it may have cost lives, he said.
I'm not an epidemiologist, but he said there's no doubt that you can stop an epidemic that you, you know, there is no doubt you can stop an emic with a lockdown, but it's a very blunt, very medieval weapon, and the epidemic could have been stopped just as effectively, you know, with other sensible measures, masks of social distancing.
You know, getting people to social distance is hard.
It's this is not easy.
You know, I'm not saying uh, you know, people thought I was being overly critical of these kids in the pool over the weekend.
I'm I'm really not.
There's a natural craving to be around other people.
We're social creatures.
We want to be around others.
You know, not shaking hands to me is almost odd at this point, elbowing everybody.
Um, and I have sharp elbows from obviously all my martial arts training.
But it it's the moments I thought I'd never hear you say Von Air.
You know, I have sharp elbows, audience.
It's a very strange thing to say.
Well, you asked for sense sensei about them.
I throw a pretty mean elbow.
Now seven years in the making.
All right.
Um, we know that Governor Whitmer's never-ending lockdown, which he extended, is now left Michigan with the second highest unemployment rate in the nation.
As if Michigan financially hasn't suffered enough, especially with these draconian measures.
You can't cut the lawn in your hustler turf lawnmower.
Are you kidding me?
And but her husband's called, oh, it's a joke.
No, it wasn't a joke.
You're lying.
I don't believe one word of that.
Not a single solitary word that she's saying.
So the good we do have some good news.
We have a poll out that 74% of business, small businesses expect to fully recover.
But that means 26% don't think we're going to recover.
I'm most worried about the restaurant business, bar business, and places like that.
I'm I'm not, I do believe that we can open stadiums.
I won't reiterate my method of doing it, but I think that's very doable.
I've had Robert Kraft on Hannity last night, and Robert Kraft was pretty clear about all of this.
Um, economic experts, both parties predict the economy will be booming by election day.
Anyway, back to the poll first, though, and the latest sign of economic resiliency.
Now, when we get these April, May, June numbers will be a disaster.
I'm just preparing you.
It's not gonna be fun.
Anyway, but uh it's but now three-quarters of small firms say they're gonna be back to business as usual within six months, now that the stay-at-home rules are being lifted.
And a lot of people are using again the masks, et cetera.
This is only gonna be in this is very short term.
It's not going to be a new normal.
I know many are concerned that this is gonna be the new America.
I don't believe that that's gonna happen because I don't think Americans would cooperate with it, number one.
Now, the Washington examiner, Larry Cudlow, director of National Economic Council, he was saying I think the third quarter is gonna be a huge growth quarter.
We agree with the Congressional Budget Office, the fourth quarter, which is October, November, December, the whole second half, we're gonna see tremendous growth that will spill over into 2021.
That's all true.
I mean, we could easily have one to two million jobs created a month in the four reports before November.
And by the way, that's from Obama economic advisor Jason Furman.
And then toward The end of October, we'll get GDP for the third quarter at an annualized rate, and it could be double digit positive economic growth.
I would predict as of today, and that's why opening stadiums and having concerts and preparing and getting the if the Major League Baseball Players Association could sit at the table and make a deal that benefits everybody.
We can get people back in the stands.
Um, but I think this guy Furman, who was the top economist in Obama's years, now a Harvard professor.
He said to a group of policy policymakers last month, we're about to see the best economic data we have seen in the history of this country.
Well, we're about to see the real worst economic data when we get the numbers in July for the second quarter, which is April, May, June.
And he said, My big worry, he says, think about this.
This is my big worry.
Um, that the recovery, it's going to be a dramatic recovery among top members.
And he says it's that that's a very extremely high potential.
And his theory is the current shutdown uh is closer to those who accompany a natural disaster.
Drop offs tend to be sharp, but followed by sharp rebounds.
Given how many people were furloughed, how many businesses closed, you can get a big jump out of that.
It'll look like the beginning of the V-style recovery.
He's right.
That's what our hope is.
We want that to happen.
Why would you not want that to happen?
Oh, because you don't like Donald Trump.
Well, there's a reason.
Jerry Matt Nadler, this whole battle over mail-in ballots, actually, we found a quote of him.
Paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud.
I can show you experience which would make your head spin.
Oh, he's supporting Donald Trump, which then brings us to the big Twitter question.
Uh fact-checking CN using CNN and and what the Washington Post as fact checkers.
They're not news.
These are these are liberal talk stations.
You know, then Biden is out there.
He spent his 15 minutes laying the wreath on Memorial Day.
He's back in his basement, being stupid.
And he said it could Bill O'Reilly was right, couldn't answer the question.
And that is, what would you do differently, Joe?
Uh, listen to the experts.
That's not an answer.
Because Donald Trump listened to the experts.
And the expert, by the way, none of the experts agreed with him on the travel ban or the quarantine or the subsequent travel bans.
He did all that on his own.
And uh, well, Joe Biden.
Well, I think this whole macho thing about not wearing a mask.
The president probably is the one person that doesn't have to wear a mask because he's getting tested, and everyone around him has to get tested, which is the right thing to do.
And I'd say that regardless of who's the president.
But a lot's gonna happen in 160 days.
A lot is gonna happen.
Then you're gonna have, once Joe has to come out of his bunker and they're gonna have whatever convention they're gonna have, Trump's gonna have a convention, a real convention, regardless of what the Democrats do.
And I I would imagine there's probably pressure on the Democrats.
Whoa, what do we do?
He's gonna have one.
We're gonna look stupid.
Joe's gonna be in his basement.
That's not gonna look too exciting.
Um, so we'll see what happens here.
Uh, but then he's gonna have to answer for quid pro quo Joe.
He's gonna have to answer for uh zero experience hunter in Ukraine and China.
Then he's gonna have to identify what he would have done differently, why he called the travel ban xenophobic, hysterical, uh, fear mongering.
He's gonna have to explain why in eight years as vice president, 13 million more Americans on food stamps, eight million more in poverty.
Then he's gonna have to explain why did why did it take Donald Trump?
Because he's you know, he now has the definition.
Well, if you vote for Trump, you ain't black.
Okay.
And he even said he's voting for Biden.
I'm sorry, he's gonna defeat Biden.
I'm like, okay, you go defeat Biden because you're doing a good job of it so far.
Um, you know, now he's accusing him of death, you know, it's just like he's he's flailing.
And everyone's oh, well, what if you for your points, Michelle Obama?
He can't lose.
I don't know if Michelle Obama wants it or not, but I'll take Trump's economic record against the Obama Biden record any day.
And I'll take Trump's foreign policy success and beating Baghdadi and killing him and killing Solomon and killing the Al-Qaeda leader in Yemen and defeating the caliphate that they couldn't beat, bringing back Jobs from overseas manufacturing jobs that they said was never coming back.
I'll take all the energy independence that we haven't had in 75 years over, you know, the environmental extremism of every Democrat now.
And we'll just have to see.
I mean, it's going to be game on.
It's about it's about game time.
And there's going to be a lot of issues on the table.
But of course, the biggest donor is going to be the media and the mob in the media.
And uh guess what?
They have an agenda.
You know, I loved it.
Uh now that I what did I say when Kaylee McEnaney, you know, did her first press conference as press uh secretary.
Just to how just count the days till they start attacking her.
Um, and she rightly said, journalists are not above being questioned when they've got obvious agendas and they're only donating to the Democratic Radical Socialist Party, and they ignore that they lied for three years on Russia Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, impeach impeach, and they've got they ignored the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in history, they've got a problem.
Uh I love fake news CNN and MSNBC staffers, they're all spotted out on the town.
Now, the the person on camera is wearing a mask.
The person behind the camera, in the case of MSDNC is not wearing a mask.
And the guy on camera is lecturing everybody else about not wearing mask.
A guy takes a video and he says, What about your cameraman?
He's not wearing a mask.
Oh, yeah, not even my cameraman's wearing a mask.
I mean, you you can't make this up.
You know, it's it's that's how nuts both these networks are.
You know, they both failed to practice what they're preaching all of us to do.
And look, I'm only telling you, I'm not wearing a mask if I'm not if if if if I have social distancing, there's no mask on my face.
There's not.
But if you can't in those circumstances, then you know, you wear it then, but it's it's short term.
And the president and vice president are also right about Twitter.
You know, if they're gonna use the Washington Post and they're gonna determine what's truth and not truth, then okay, I want them to go back and fact-check everything they got wrong on Russia Trump collusion, then they can fact check how uh Joe and and Hunter and the whole quid pro quo Joe zero experience hunter fiasco.
You know, it's uh the the Twitter fact checker claimed the Trump administration are actual Nazis and mocked flyover states.
I kid you not, the Twitter official responsible for the fact-checking policies, that tell your friend Dorsey this, has tweeted that members of the Trump administration are Nazis, among other false inflammatory statements on the on the platform.
This guy's uh title is head of site integrity.
Uh I think he's got a bias, don't you?
Yeah, that sounds like a bias to me, but they pointed out that his own tweets include exactly the kind of misleading abusive content that Twitter's policy is purporting to limit.
Jack Dorsey, pay attention.
You might need a new fact checker, because the one you have is abusively biased himself.
And if he's calling Trump supporters Nazis, that might explain why conservatives have rightly been pointing out uh that in fact all of these outlets are purposefully suppressing conservative three free thought and ideals.
Now, if they want to set up a private club, fine, but we'll find another site and I'll promote it for free, if that's what their strategy is.
All right, news roundup information overload hour.
That was just the latest cringeworthy exchange.
Uh Joe Biden.
Now, I gotta give him credit.
He finally, although this does not count in terms of our countdown, you know, the fact that he did take a brief appearance, he he did go and lay a wreath at the Delaware War Memorial.
Okay, credit.
Joe left his house for 15 seconds for a worthy cause.
That doesn't count as leaving his basement to me.
So now we're at day 72 of Quid Pro Quo Joe, the ever forgetful one in his basement.
And, you know, he keeps doing these appearances one after another after another.
Funniest thing he said in a recent interview, oh, I'm I'm doing just Fine in my basement hiding.
I yeah, while Trump's governing the country.
O'Reilly pointed out earlier, rightly so, that, you know, when asked, what would you do differently?
I didn't listen to the experts.
Well, we already know what he'd do differently.
We watched them on N1H1 to quote him.
Really H1N1.
So then, you know, the train wreck continues with these interviews.
You know, whether he said, I'm gonna be Joe or beat Joe Biden, it sounded like beat Joe Biden to me, but whatever it is.
But he's doing a pretty good job of beating himself.
And he does this interview with a radio host by the name of Charlamagne.
It was so bad, you can see like Joe shushing away a staffer who tried to prevent you know this ever confused boss from from answering any more questions.
And that's when he said the line that you just heard, you ain't black if you don't support him in the election.
Well, okay, now rightly all the criticism has been taking place.
Uh you have uh even the radio host Charlamagne saying that Biden is an intricate part of the system that needs to be dismantled.
The founder of B.E.T. called on Biden to apologize to every black person he meets till election day.
Uh, even James Clyburn was shocked by this.
Biden offers a oh uh on a CNN interview, he goes out there and he says, Well, but you know, I shouldn't be such a wise guy.
The question for you is about what some supporters say they're worried about, which is that all of this could end up hurting the enthusiasm that you really need to win among black voters.
Well, first of all, um, you know, I uh it was a mistake, number one.
And I was smiling when he asked me the question.
I was, you know, I I I shouldn't have been such a wise guy with him.
He was being a wise guy and I responded kind.
As being a wise guy, and I responded in kind.
Uh, okay, but this is not his history.
He has a disturbing pattern of this.
1977, he worried that his children would grow up and quote, uh his words, racial jungle if integration is not done in an orderly way.
And 93, he said inner city crime caused by predators on our streets.
Again, always use the what if Donald Trump did this?
What if Donald Trump ordered the elderly into nursing homes, for example?
In 2000 uh six, he says, Well, you have to have a slight Indian accent to work at a 7-Eleven or Duncan Donuts.
And I'll never forget the comments about Barack Obama.
This is the first mainstream African American who's articulate and bright and clean.
It's storybook, man.
Yeah.
Then bragging he comes from a slave state.
Same guy that says they're gonna put you all back in change.
You know, bragging he worked with segregation is to get things done.
I mean, well, it's only the tip of the iceberg.
Anyway, here to uh talk about it and debate Vince Ellison, conservative columnist, lecturer, author of the book, The Iron Triangle.
Leo Torrell is back, American civil rights attorney, talk show host.
Uh, he was on Hannity last night.
Leo, I gotta be very blunt with you.
You ready?
I'm ready, Sean.
You know what I you know what I discovered last night when you were on the show?
I miss you.
We were friends.
We've been friends for a lot of years.
I don't know how we got out of touch.
I know that you used to throw your microphone down and you rip out your earpiece and walk off the show a couple of times when I mentioned your buddy O.J., but you seem like you're over it now.
Well, look, Sean, I miss you.
I'm glad you had me on last night.
I I really appreciate being on your radio program, and I hope uh our 20-year friendship remains uh continuous.
I remember how much I liked you.
I do, and even though we don't agree a lot, I remember anyway.
All right.
Now I gave you the history, Leo Torrell.
You're an attorney, you're successful.
By the way, Larry Elder did take a pretty big shot at you.
Not where Larry, not where Leo's living.
I don't know what that meant.
I assume.
But uh anyway, I thought it was funny.
But this is his history.
Now, you tell me who helped uh historically black colleges, Trump.
Who did criminal justice reform, Trump?
Who's the guy that created these business opportunities owns Trump?
Who gave us the lowest unemployment rate for every demographic, including African Americans and Afric African American youth unemployment?
Trump, not Biden and not Obama.
Well, Sean, let me be very clear, because I I said it last night and people know me.
I'm very pure-minded.
I'm not a Big Trump supporter, but what Joe Biden did last night, he ins what he did last week, excuse me, he insulted every African American in this country.
He basically said that Tim Scott, who's a very good Republican, black South Carolina senator, shouldn't be a Republican.
Joe Biden is not in the position to question anyone's blackness.
And I think Joe Biden is in a time warp in the 70s or 80s.
I think you're absolutely right.
If you're looking at what has any politician done for African Americans, the things that Trump has done in the last two, three years are things that are happening now, not what Joe Biden is relying upon the 60s and 70s.
African Americans, especially those under 40, they will not buy the 70 and 80 logic.
They want what can they do?
What can a politician do to put money in my pocket?
And so far, all Trump needs is to move that needle two to three percent of increasing black support.
And I guarantee you, he will carry the states that he won in 2016.
Let's get your answer.
Vin Tellison, great to hear your voice again.
We've uh missed you in the middle of all those coronavirus talk.
Oh man, I'm glad to be with you, and I'm happy to be on with the legendary Mr. Terrell.
And I'm happy to hear that uh he he's uh he sees she's seeing things clearly the same way that that I am.
Uh what Joe did was just really it was really uh it was very it was not good.
And as you said, Sean, you ran it all down.
Um as I've told you before on your show, uh a tree is known by the fruit it bears.
And what the Democrats have done in the black community over the past uh 30, 40 years is just horrible.
They uh it's like a cultural genocide.
Uh we have 10 times more people in prison, schools are in in many of the cities like Baltimore, Detroit.
Are just terrible.
Trump is fighting for school choice.
He's fighting to get these black men out of prison that Joe Biden who wrote the criminal the Clinton crime bill uh sent to jail.
Uh he's fighting to make sure that people come to this country come legally so that when they go into the communities, you know, they they they they uh we we they they they they're the the they're they're there for the right jobs, that they're not taking up too much space in schools, they're not fighting for the same benefits and things like that.
Trump is doing a great job for the black community, doing a great job for America, and uh Joe Biden's just gonna have a record to run on.
I mean, even when he was with uh, like you said, when he was the Bill Biden uh uh the Obama administration, they didn't do a good job in the black community.
Black people got four of all people went to jail, uh the poverty ensued, and as a matter of fact, uh the the community seemed like it suffered more under Biden and Obama than it did probably under any administration for a very, very long time.
But we're coming back, America's gonna be stronger, the black community is gonna be stronger, and uh everything's gonna be rosy.
I mean, I looked at the Dow today and I just jumped up and down.
It's all coming back because of President Trump's strong and in his vicious leadership, and I support him 100%.
Can I just give one final note?
What Joe Biden did last week, he insulted the intelligence of not just black America, he insulted the intelligence of every American to make the assumption that you have to be a Democrat if you're a black person.
And that fallacy is absolutely incorrect.
That's definitely correct.
That's definitely correct.
You're finding now that because President Trump has been talking belief and going to Twitter and going to uh all these other ways of getting the people that people are hearing his message, like a very good uh a salesman, he will tell you what his product does for you.
And for a long time, Republicans spoke completely in general concepts when it came to the black community.
Donald Trump will tell you every time he stands up, he's proud of what he's doing for black America.
But when the when when Joe Biden talks about his record, you have to say, good God, Joe, you're proud of that?
I mean, you're proud of the terrible schools, you're proud of the crime, you're proud of running a bill that locked up millions of black men, you're proud of voting for abortion that's right now killing up to 60, uh, I mean, uh 40% of all the pregnancies in the society of black America.
You're proud of this.
You're proud of the murder and the mayhem of this arming black men when we see that they believe they're being hunted out there in the streets, and instead of saying, look, I think everybody has a Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms and defend themselves, you're voting for people that are going to confiscate your weapons.
You know, the the Democratic Party has nothing more to offer the black communities for as I'm concerned.
I think everybody should sit down and talk and and and we need to uh do what the president's talking about doing with school choice.
We we need to make sure that people are protecting their communities, that the police cannot protect them, make sure they can protect themselves.
And we have to start talking so much about race in this country because we're all Americans.
Every two, four years, Leo.
What are the what is the Democratic Party do?
Republicans want to put you all back in chains.
It's like my father was killed all over again.
If you like Republicans, black churches are gonna burn.
I go through the history of this all the time.
And you know what?
The the the one president that has done more that has impacted in the most positive ways every demographic group, including African Americans, Hispanic Americans, is Donald Trump.
His policies worked, not their policies.
Let me simply say this because Joe Biden has a nightmare.
A person like me, who he would normally count in the column, in his column.
I am his worst nightmare.
And there's thousands of African Americans who were insulted by what he did, who will now have to make him earn our vote because Joe Biden lost me and many, many blacks.
And I will submit to you that Joe Biden had a lot of homework to do if he is going to have these supermajority numbers of African Americans.
He insulted them and he hurt them.
And he had basically wounded African Americans.
African Americans want you to feel like you care for them.
And what Joe Biden said last week, he made it sound like he took blacks for granted.
So people like myself who are coming on your show.
Oh, Terrell's gonna support Joe Biden.
No.
Terrell is going to wait to see what Joe Biden is going to offer America and Donald Trump has to be taking the lead on that.
I got the zillion dollar question for Leo when we get back.
So stay right there.
Let's great to have you back.
Vince, great to have you back.
800-941 Sean.
As we roll along, you ain't black according to Joe Biden.
Uh anyway, Leo Tyrrell, American Civil Rights Attorney Vince Ellison, author of the Iron Triangle.
Here's the here's the big question.
So, Leo.
Yes, sir.
You've been a pretty much a lifelong Democrat, right?
Been pretty much on that side, yes.
Donald Trump did all these things we've discussed, right?
As it relates to helping uh doing more for African Americans.
You saw Alice Johnson.
I'm sure you felt what I felt.
I've I've fallen in love with her.
Wonderful woman.
Yes, that didn't happen under Biden Obama.
Why would you not vote for for Trump?
You should vote for Trump.
Let me be very clear on your show.
I am not committed to Biden.
I'm not committed to Trump.
I would like to see Trump do a little bit more on these most recent incidents that have happened in Minnesota and Georgia.
You could just talk about that later.
But I want to see a little bit more compassion, but I will sit here on your program and tell you very clearly.
I am not in Biden's back pocket.
And I will not sit here and tell you I'm committed to Biden.
I'm open.
We got 170 days.
Let the candidates debate.
But who's counting?
Vince.
What one thing that is happened.
Every two, four years, the race card gets played.
I'm sick of it as a conservative.
Because I find I I want nothing to do with bigoted, hateful racist people.
Period.
End of sentence.
We're all children of God.
And you know, at the end of the day, it still happens.
Every two, four years.
And the Democratic candidates always play that card.
I'm sick of it.
Well, Sean, I can dodge with that.
You're one of the best men I've ever met, and you're you're a great citizen that our racist bone in your body.
I know that for fact.
But this is what this is the cards they're going to play because it always works for them.
I think they may have played it out this year, though.
What we've seen, we all know these things are not right, but these are just human beings.
They're not black, they're not white folks that are concerned.
I see human beings being bad, being mean to each other.
Well, yeah, black or white is irrelevant to me.
But these these people are always trying to make it a black and a white issue.
We're Americans and we are all one people, one blood in one country.
And I'm going to tell you this about what I've heard today.
from my friend Leo.
Walter Cronkite, when Johnson said, I lost Vietnam, when I lost Walter Cronkite, Well, Trump well, Biden is going to lose it to the black community if he calls Leo.
Because Leo has been a staunch, hard uh Democrat for years.
I know.
But I've been working on him for 20 years, Vince.
This has been a 20 year project, Leo, right?
Well, yes, but let me see you say this, and you said it's clerical.
We're just out of time.
I love you both.
Welcome back.
I missed you both straight ahead.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
800 nine four one.
Sean, you want to be a part of the program.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Uh Lisa in Montana has been extraordinarily patient today.
I'm sorry for the long wait.
Glad you called.
Uh I love Montana.
It's beautiful out there.
What a place.
How are you?
Hello, Sean and Linda.
I want to thank you so much.
I I would wait as well.
Why does everybody thank Linda?
It's the Sean Hannity show.
Not the Linda New York show.
All right, go ahead.
I love Lisa.
I love Lisa.
She should come on every day.
It's a wonderful thing.
We'll talk.
I know.
Go.
Uh what's going on, Lisa?
So we are having a we are planning here in Montana a birthday parade for President Trump on his birthday, June 14th, which is also National American Flag Day.
And I want to do it.
What are you doing for the birthday party?
We're having a parade slash in our cars.
We're driving through Bozeman, Montana and the surrounding little town with our cars decorated with happy birthday Trump, Trump 2020, because they're trying to stop our rallies, and what's a better way to have a rally nationwide in our cars to honor President Trump on his birthday.
I love it.
I listen, I don't want to I don't want to burst your bubble.
Linda's gonna kill me if when I say this.
I've actually know for a fact he hates mentioning his birthday.
There are some people that hate that.
I don't particularly like mentioning mine either.
Um but with that said, I love what you're doing.
Um I think it's a great idea.
I'm sure he'll be touched by it the videos.
Did you see the videos from South Carolina Charleston this weekend and the the guy in the Trump 2020 boat, et cetera?
Oh, and I want everybody to decorate your boats, your homes, your cars, your semi.
So a buddy of mine, get this.
He's and the guy was on TV, I don't remember if he was on radio too.
He's on one or the other.
Anyway, see how great my memory is.
I can tell you everything about every president from ri from Jimmy Carter onward, but I can't remember who was on the show yesterday.
Now, but I the he put me on the phone with the Trump 2020 boat guy, and there were like apparently hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of votes with all Trump 2020 signs.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, well, it's you know, he might not like his birthday, but we're in times where they're trying to stop all of our rallies with him.
And we can't think of a nationwide date to actually have our rallies in our car to support him and let him know we can't thank him enough for everything he's been through.
And we need to stand for our American flag.
I've been putting on governors like Christy Gnome, South Dakota, and you know, obviously DeSantis and uh Abbott from Texas, and we also had the Mississippi governor on.
And just to get a little flavor for how all the states are dealing with coronavirus.
Um I've not read a lot about Montana.
I know South Dakota stayed open, um, which probably means it was no nothing like what they experienced because of the stupidity of you know, politicians in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
But um, how is coronavirus there?
Coronavirus, we were locked down for a while.
Yeah, and everybody's been cautious.
I happen to work for Costco wholesale.
Well, I love Costco's.
Love Costco.
I'm serious.
You know what I love.
You walk around and they give you samples like the old days.
You know.
They used to.
Uh the last time I went, I got samples.
No, they shut it down when all this came out.
And now as employees, we were masks or shields if you can't breathe.
Well, I meant before the virus.
I haven't been there since the virus.
I would go to my local grocery store now.
Okay.
Costco's got it going on.
It's an amazing company as far as you know, taking care of all of us.
But it's, you know, it's a hard job.
Everybody's stockings are wearing masks, and it's hard to breathe, but they're standing tall, and I I'm very proud to be a Costco employer.
Anyone at Costco's where you are ever gotten corona?
No.
I only have to do it.
And everybody's wearing a mask, right?
The employees are, but it they weren't in the beginning.
You see, I I I keep using the anecdotal.
I go to my right aid, I go to my local grocery store.
Every worker is in a mask and gloves.
And God bl thank God.
Nobody got corona.
And they were wearing it from the earliest days here.
Um and that's why you know I keep harping on.
If I have to wear it to go to a game, I'll wear it.
I want to go to a concert.
I want to go to a baseball game.
I want to go to a football game.
I want to live again.
Great.
And we will live again.
And we will come through this and we will survive.
Uh, but it I will be looking forward to seeing all the parades that they're gonna have for Trump on his birthday.
I certainly think that's a good one.
Well, I think it's awesome that you do it.
Linda just texted me.
Apparently, you're a newlywed.
Well, no, it's my it's my anniversary today.
I've been I was getting ready while I was on hold.
Wow, what do you want to go out to dinner?
Well, where are you going to dinner tonight?
Um, a place called the hood.
Lahood, what kind of food they serve?
Oh, amazing ribs that when you cut it in half, it falls off the bone.
It's fantastic.
Okay, you're gonna hate me for this.
I like the ribs, the pork ribs, where you actually have to rip it off the bone.
I uh I I've got the same thing.
My mother had it.
I strip every bone.
Obviously, you can't do it in a restaurant, but when I'm alone, oh, it's messy.
It's ugly, it's sloppy, it's you know, it's the Linda would say you are true.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I gotta say, I'm I really like Lisa.
She might be my favorite coordinator.
All right, you're annoying me.
But I love you anyway.
All right, so here's the thing.
How many um so it's your how many year anniversary?
Um, it happens to be our fourth this year.
Okay.
Any kids yet?
No, we met later in life and we're happier than ever.
Good for you.
I'm so glad to hear it.
Wish you all the best.
And if you have a I didn't meet him, I wouldn't know as much as I do about politics.
I was a numbnut walking around knowing nothing, and now I'm over the top passionate.
I listen to your show all the time, and I appreciate your show because you repeat it and help me learn everything.
And same with Rush Limball.
Well, yeah, by the way, Russia is amazing, too.
Let me ask you this.
Do you have like are you uh on uh do you have a ranch?
No.
Do you have acreage?
No.
So you live in the residential part with Bozeman.
I boy, I live in Manhattan.
It's a tiny town.
What did you I thought you said Manhattan?
What town?
What did you say?
I live in a little town called Manhattan, Montana.
You know, if you look at Manhattan.
Wow.
Okay.
If you look at Manhattan, like when you're up in a jet and you're looking down at this, it's the tiniest island.
11 million people on that tiny island, which you know, then why didn't you prepare?
I don't know why we uh people pay such high amounts of money for the real estate in this uh shift hole, if you don't mind the use.
Every time I say shift show, people think I'm cursing.
I'm not cursing.
Although it's kind of a curse because he's such a jerk.
But happy anniversary, Lisa.
God bless you and your husband and uh the people of Montana.
I gotta get her.
I'm at I want a ranch one day.
That's my dream.
Linda, what do you think?
Hannity ranch.
I mean, listen, I'm in love with Montana.
Uh Lisa and I have already talked about this because when she said she was.
Okay, you're gonna last five seconds on a row.
First of all, would you give me a little crazy?
Listen, I can do it, okay?
You go, I can do it.
I'm gonna hire people.
I'm gonna be a capitalist.
They're gonna, you know, take care of the grounds and the bugs and the dirt, and I'm going to appreciate the beauty that they offer to me.
I'm gonna pay my taxes.
It's gonna be great.
I love it.
Okay.
Uh yeah.
Well don't say it like that.
Don't say it like that.
You know, just because I don't want to get dirty doesn't mean I can't appreciate the beauty.
Uh okay.
You can I can see Lisa with a at least I can see her with her first bison burger.
Unbelievable.
Oh, amen.
Okay, I gotta run.
Thank you, Lisa.
Marty, California.
What's up, Marty?
How are you?
What's happening, man?
What's going on, man?
Hey, man, I'm out here in the everything.
I'm right down here in Los Angeles, the belly of the liberal.
The ground zero right here, sir.
And there's a lot of Trump supporters, and there's a lot of Hannity supporters all up and down California.
What I want to say, uh, Sean, is that um with everything that's gone on, I do believe this was a bio attack.
It was no it was uh another uh Pearl Harbor 9-11, and there needs to be uh we need to uh deal with it.
We need to deal with China, and it needs to be dealt with economically.
And I don't know why our governor has got us locked down talking about the negativity instead of going down to Mexico and finding out how we can trade with them.
We should start trading with them opposed to give them the money instead of China.
There's things that they can make that China made that we can buy, and we can help them grow their economy, their country, and we can they're our neighbors.
Why isn't that happening?
Uh listen, I'm not disagreeing.
What China did to the world, there needs to be a day of reckoning.
Um I I mentioned it earlier, but just in passing, and the WHO is now defending them again.
So they shouldn't get a penny.
Now, as it relates to what we the lessons learned that I posted on Twitter today about corona, one of them is never trust China.
They lied to us and and people died.
They literally misled the world.
They then they then went out there and and sucked up and started hoarding every bit of medical equipment, then selling it to us at a profit.
Now we've learned that we can't rely on them for anything, especially medical equipment and pharmaceuticals and the agents for pharmaceuticals.
I mean, we ought to learn a listen.
Lesson, just like we needed to become energy independent.
Trump made that happen, and Trump's been way ahead of the curve on China.
And those jobs were coming back, and they will come back if we can open this country up now.
Do it like yesterday.
Robert Kraft was like, yes, we're opening the NFL on time with people in the stands.
When he said that last night, I wanted to do a backflip.
Uh you're right, we gotta fix it.
I you're dead on right.
Uh all right, let's go to uh Tom in North Carolina.
Tom, what's happening, sir?
How are you?
How are you, Mr. Hannity?
Uh thank you for taking my call.
Thank you.
Um like you, I don't I want to see stuff opened up.
And because of you, I started a business.
It's called the Santa Corps.
And what it is, is it's a screening and sanitizing process of people who want to go to large events.
Uh you know, we go through checking temptures, applying sanitizer, uh, not only to the hands and face, but also the whole external body.
What are you gonna do?
Are you gonna like shoot Pure El up everybody's nose?
What are you doing?
What are you talking about?
No, so like you'll go through one of the temperature turnstiles, then what's the next step about face and hands?
What are you gonna do?
People aren't gonna want their hands and face cleaned by somebody.
No, no, no, not cleaned by somebody.
It the they will do it themselves.
I I've been dealing with a um plasma center here lately, and that's pretty much what we do.
When when the patients come in or the donors come in, they're they have their temperature checked.
They walk over to one of the automatic hand sanitizer dispensers, they put it on their hand, and then rub their face as well, because that you know that's keeping their hands and face a lot cleaner in the environment.
I love it.
Do you have a do you have an actual like website product line that we can take a look at?
Uh it is it is the sanny core.com.
Now I just threw it up May 11th, but it's it's just really it's in, you know, but it it's some it's needed.
I look, I'm just saying for the interim.
The only thing I add to that is what everyone is yelling at me about is if you want stadiums to open, it's probably gonna mean temporarily masks.
You know, but you'll have your mask with your I don't disagree with that at all.
Uh no, and and but you know, from that step on, the there is a product that's a pressurized alcohol that you can spray when I say the rest of their external, it's it's just sprayed on the clothing and the arms, and you know, you're not spraying their face, of course.
But you know, it's it's just a matter of it's there's a direct time on sanitizing problems.
I'm gonna take a look at it after the show.
Thanks, thanks for calling.
All right, appreciate it, Tom.
I love the ingenuity.
All right, uh, Henry in New Joysey.
What's up, Henry?
Your governor messed up big time with his executive order.
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you doing?
I'm good, sir.
Uh, I'll get right to it.
Uh, I think I got a great idea for a charity event.
Yeah, what is it?
Uh to raise money for the doctors and nurses and everything.
I think uh you, Grush, Levin, Boncino, and whoever else you want, uh, should have a pay-per-view debate against uh Acosta, Matt L, Humpty Dumpy, Fredo.
All those I mean, I'd say I'll tell you the truth.
I think you would make a ton of money.
Because I know I would love to see it.
Uh I listen, if it's for charity, I'm I'm never gonna say no to you know, whenever I can.
I never I never say no to charities.
Um I don't think you're I don't think it's it would happen for because there's many people for many reasons that would never do it.
Um or or maybe like a softball game, the conservatives versus the libs, something like that.
Uh but we'll have to have like literally buffer zones, safe zones for people so they don't kill each other.
But uh, you know, I would always be open to something like that.
You know, I'm I still am active athletic sports constantly.
Uh I do my mixed martial arts.
Uh I by the way, how great is Dana White?
He's now gonna like open up pay-per-view events in an island somewhere.
Um and you know what?
Good for him.
With the new Abbott Test, you can test all of the fighters.
They can get in the octagon.
I I always watch pay-per-view anyway.
I I I think I've purchased every fight imaginable, but I love your idea.
You know what we're talking about here, which is fun for the first time?
We're actually sounding like we're living again.
We gotta live again.
I want to live.
I want to be free.
And we've learned what it's like not working.
It sucks.
I've always I've always known and said that.
You know, you're gonna be great.
You retire.
All right, first 30 days, you fish, you go hunting, you you play golf.
Then what's next?
There's not I I'll be bored.
I will I'll be driving around, Linda Right or Wrong in my car, and I'll be doing my own talk show.
You'll be talking to yourself.
I'll be talking to myself.
People will look at the strange guy in the car talking to himself, saying, Oh, uh Leo from Memphis, you're on next.
We're not gonna have time for Leo, are we?
All right, we gotta run.
All right, that's all the time we have.
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