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Mitch McConnell laying out the groundwork just moments ago about how the now 16 hours of long questioning is going to go.
Then they'll have the battle over witnesses, which I have a lot to weigh in on.
Mitch McConnell, earlier today, the Hill reporting that I guess reminding some of the wobbly, weak, oh, oh, what do I do?
I don't want my constituents to be mad at me.
Why would they, why any Republican senator would ever lend legitimacy to this Schumer shift show?
I mean, it was a knockdown, brutal, takedown, end of fight in the two hours they did Saturday.
I mean, between Sekulo and Cipollone and Pam Bondi on the Bidens and Dershowitz on the Constitution and on Bolton.
It's just every question is answered.
This was so frustrating to me watching all of this, this shift show.
How is it even possible we are here?
How is this possible?
Especially knowing all that we know.
It really, it shouldn't be all the discussion, bombshell, bombshell.
We put a montage together.
Now, I've had montages put together of every single solitary year.
I won't play them all now Because it'll take an hour of every report, everybody in the mob, in the media, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, stormy, bombshell, Russia, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
And now we have just the bombshells about John Bolton.
But remember, okay, these facts never change.
It doesn't matter whether or not John Bolton is going to say whatever the New York Times secret anonymous source is telling us he's going to say that his lawyer won't confirm about, well, I think the president said that he wanted to withhold money from Ukraine until they investigated the Bidens and until they did this, this, this, this, and this.
Let's say Bolton is telling the truth.
Well, let's say he says it.
Let's say he writes about it.
And let's say it's true.
Let's just take that for a second.
All right.
Now, I would imagine I'm a pretty fairly, well, it could be disputed normal person.
In the course of your day, how many thoughts cross your head?
How many times do you think something even bad about somebody?
How many times, maybe, in your life, have you ever said, I'm going to kill that person?
Okay, but you don't.
You don't kill that person.
Does that mean you've committed murder?
Nope.
You didn't.
You thought about it, maybe.
Maybe you went serious, which would be probably you need help.
The idea, we have the transcripts.
There's two of them, but the main one, the July 24th phone call with the president and President Zelensky of Ukraine.
We have it.
The president willingly released it on the phone call.
They never discussed any aid.
Now, both Zelensky, the foreign minister, the president, and the other 350,000 people that the president knew was on the call.
Well, they have said there was no pushing.
We have the transcript.
It shows there was no pushing, no pressure, no linkage, no quid or pro or quo like Joe.
None whatsoever.
Don't, if you do this or say you'll do this, I'll give you the security assistance dollars.
That never happened.
Nobody even says it happens.
That's why the compromise corrupt congenital liar made up a new transcript.
You know, the Ukrainians didn't even know at the time that aid was being delayed temporarily.
The president talked on that call about corruption and that the new president was seemed to be hanging out with some of the corrupt people from the last administration in Ukraine, Pershenko's administration.
Anyway, so, but they didn't even know.
Now, they got the aid and some of it even they got early.
They got the aid money early.
Did the Ukrainians take any action as it relates to any investigation into the Bidens?
Nope.
Did they promise to take any action as it relates to an investigation into the Bidens?
Nope.
Did they ever take, although we have evidence, Ukraine independently, separate and apart from Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, you know, did they ever start an investigation into that?
Nope.
Did they ever promise to start an investigation?
Nope.
They took no action.
They promised no action.
They announced no action.
So let's say the president, let's give Bolton if it's true in the manuscript from the anonymous source.
Maybe it's one of those lucky moments that the New York Times gets right.
After two and a half years, they actually got one thing right, that the dirty Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier was likely Russian misinformation from the get-go.
That would be to hurt Trump.
Those facts never changed.
They did nothing and they got the money.
They never pledged to do anything.
They got the money.
One fact witness actually asked the president, what do you want specifically?
Nothing.
No quit or pro or quo.
It never changes.
It doesn't change.
All of this noise.
It comes down to that.
Facts, truth, matter.
But you wouldn't know it if you watch your corrupt and they are so corrupt.
And I mean the media mob in this country.
Everything to them regarding Donald Trump is a bombshell.
Now, what did I say last week?
I said, you know, the reason I feel pretty good, we're now 280 days away before we hear from the ultimate jury.
The ultimate jury is you, we, the American people.
You, in 280 days, by the way, earlier, and if you want to know when early voting starts and absentee voting and registration, you need to do it.
Go to Hannity.com.
It's an informational map for you.
We put up there for your benefit so that you can participate in 280 days.
But, you know, we now know you get to shock the world again.
And I kind of, I don't know what's going to happen.
Joe Scarborough thinks people like me are living in a bubble.
Maybe he's right.
Maybe I'll say, Joe, you were right.
I was living in a bubble, I guess, because I think Trump, although I'm kind of suspicious all the time, it's hard for Republicans to win.
You got to get North Carolina.
You got to get Ohio, Florida.
You got to kind of run the table.
You got to pick off Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.
Maybe Minnesota would be in play this year.
You got to get Florida.
You know, you got to pick up Arizona.
We're looking for Nevada.
We're looking for New Mexico, New Hampshire.
I would like to think all these states are in play.
I'd like to think that the record-breaking economy and all the foreign policy success would be fine.
So I think that the president, yeah, are you better off than you were four years ago?
Looking pretty darn good by every measure.
President keep his word.
Well, he kept every promise he said.
Every single one of them.
I've run the checklist over on this program and on TV constantly.
Nobody else does it.
I guess I'll have to keep doing it.
And the next thing, okay, now did the president, has the president lost any of the support that he had from 2016?
Nope.
I don't really see any attrition at all.
You know what I see?
Angry.
You know, Walmart buying Trump supporters.
That's what I see.
And they're more energized than ever.
Now, the president took the extra, what, 13 million more Americans on food stamps.
Eight of them are now off of food stamps.
Wow.
After eight years of Biden-Obama, that's a pretty good success rate.
Millions out of poverty.
You know, we have 8 million more Americans in poverty under Biden-Obama.
You know, millions off of food stamps.
Good.
We have nearly 8 million new jobs.
We have the president making trade deals everywhere.
Even with China, 220 billion.
So I'm thinking, yeah, he has a good shot at maybe getting some of the people that were left behind in the Biden-Obama year.
So I think it looks as good as it can, but I'm suspicious.
I'm Irish.
I always think the next thing is going to drop on my head.
But I will tell you, we live in strange times.
Let me just play the mob.
Bombshell.
Listen.
Some of the other headlines that we have to cover this morning for you at 12 minutes past the hour.
All right, so President Trump is denying a bombshell report that claims that he told former National Security Advisor John Bolton to continue freezing aid Ukraine until they launched the political investigations he wanted.
Bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
The president's own supporters on Capitol Hill scrambling, trying to figure out exactly how to move forward now that this John Bolton bombshell has just absolutely shaken Washington.
A seismic shock.
Hit Capitol Hill like a thunderbolt.
Bombshell, former National Security Advisor John Bolton, ready to turn on the president as news leaks from his explosive new book about what he claims really happened with Ukraine.
And I feel like with the Bolton testimony or this bombshell about the manuscript, an explosive report just out, and it could be a bombshell.
An explosive new account from former National Security Advisor John Bolton that could undercut the president's case.
I can't take it anymore.
Bombshell to death.
I've got three years of bombshell, bombshell, bombshell manufactured crisis, man.
You're not stormy, stormy, stormy.
You know, Russia, Russia, Russia, impeach, impeach, impeach.
Just never ends.
They don't even get new words.
I don't even know why, after watching this absolute knockout beat down, anybody can compare this.
And it frustrates me because they want to drag this out as long as they can.
We all know the net result of all of this.
And the worst part of it to me is the breathtaking hypocrisy.
It is sick.
It is deranged.
It is ugly in its lack of adherence to common sense, reason, truth, intellectual honesty.
And that is, yeah, you're not getting a billion unless you fire the prosecutor who's investigating my zero experience son who's getting paid $83,000 a month, millions and millions of dollars, and that's a month while the average American is making less than $54,000 a year.
I think this is a beatdown for Biden.
Biden's going to pay a price for this.
And then Republicans, a few of them that are stupid enough to want to take on the constitutional role of the House.
That's not their job.
McConnell having to tell colleagues today, I'll have a chance to ask questions later in the week, and then we'll talk about the issue of witnesses.
Good.
I want Hunter, zero-experience Hunter, quid pro quo Joe.
I want the compromise congenital liar, Schiff, and I want the non-whistleblower hearsay whistleblower.
And I want the people that heard him talking about taking down Donald Trump in week two of his presidency.
How's that?
Now, at some point, this is all going to go away.
Now, there is even CNN had to promote the fact that the National Association for Business Economics said yesterday, fears of a recession have abated.
Businesses are confident about the health of the U.S. economy.
67% of respondents to a survey expect America's GDP to continue growing, while 30% expect it to be even higher than 3%.
In October, only 20% thought that was possible.
Even the Washington Post, their impeachment shock poll finds that Trump is in better shape after the impeachment started.
Whoopsie-daisy sounds like a backlash to me.
And if you want, the Gallup poll.
Well, Americans haven't been this satisfied with the direction of their country in nearly 15 years.
68% of Americans satisfied with the economy.
68% satisfied with the nation's security from terrorism.
81% Americans satisfied with the nation's military strength, preparedness, satisfaction with race relations, and the position of African Americans, other racial minorities in the country have both increased since Trump took office.
Wow, that's why I guess Trump is better positioned than ever to defeat the Democrats in November.
That's why they got to, you know, bloody him up this way and take the country and drag the country down the down the sewer where they are.
This is what trading a swamp looks like.
And if you missed over there at Fake News CNN, oh, we got a doozy for you.
If you think irredeemable, deplorables and bitter Americans clinging to God and heaven above our creator and our constitution and our Bibles and religion was bad and irredeemable deplorables is bad and you think smelly Walmart Trump supporters is bad, oh, we got a new one.
Because all of it comes down to they in the swamp and the sewer.
They think they're smarter than us.
They have nothing but contempt for the people that make this country great, which is where I was going and got distracted.
I'm going to tell you something.
This is your moment.
280 days.
It's your moment.
You own this.
You'll get the government you deserve.
That's all I can say.
I hope you shock the world again.
I can't, I have no idea what's going to happen.
Nobody does.
Anyone tells you they do?
They're lying.
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When I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and, frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfook from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
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Let me give you a preview of this as I went along the last segment and have the news coming up.
Let's listen to CNN, Don Lemon laughing.
Let's listen to how they talk about the American people.
Of course, he's just trying to demean her, and obviously it's false.
And look, he also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter U and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it.
He knows that this is an administration defined by ignorance of the world.
And so that's partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience the credulous boomer rube demo that backs Donald Trump that wants to think that Donald Trump's a smart one and they're all y'all y'all elitist or you elitist with your geography and your maps and your spelling.
Even though my path and you're reading.
Yeah, you're reading, you know, your geography, knowing other countries, sipping your latte, all those lines on the map.
Only the Melitas know where Ukraine is.
Sorry, I apologize.
Oh, my God.
But you know what?
It was Rick's fault.
I blame Rick.
But in all honesty.
I'll get back to this on the other side.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafok from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Oh, there's the compromise corrupt congenital liaison subpoenaing.
John Bolton would have tied us up in court for a long time.
Well, it still can tie you up in court for a long time.
There you go.
Not much you can do.
But I go back.
You know, this is what's frustrating.
It doesn't matter.
If John Bolton says, well, the president was clear.
He was talking about it in the White House, in the Oval Office.
He said he wanted to withhold aid until they did A, B, and C.
Okay.
Did the Ukrainians ever feel that pressure?
Nope.
They've said so many times.
Zelensky even went as far to say, what the hell is going on with you people over there?
This is bizarre to them.
And so those are the people on the call.
They never felt pressure.
They never felt pushing.
They never saw any linkage of any kind.
And they've been clear.
Maybe we need to call Zelensky.
President Zelensky, will you come and join us for the Schumer shift sham show for a couple of days and just reiterate everything you've already said on the record?
The Grannyans didn't, they didn't even know that there had been a hold on it.
President was concerned, rightly, over what?
He's concerned over corruption and said so on the call.
Never talked about aid, but he did talk about corruption.
Now, they got their money, even their money early.
They took no action.
They never started an investigation.
And even more importantly, they never promised to start an investigation.
And maybe even more important than that is they never announced an investigation, and they got all of their money.
And then they had five subsequent meetings, including with the vice president.
I think one was with Pompeo.
I mean, the highest level, with Zelensky.
At no time did they ever talk about aid being contingent upon any actions.
Now, why is it important to call zero experience Hunter and quid pro quo Joe?
Because, well, the president did mention them on the call.
He also mentioned, well, Ukrainian election interference, and I've been reading a lot about it.
He's probably referring to what people have told him in regards to Ukrainian court.
We know Ukrainian court said Ukraine interfered in our 2016 election on behalf of Hillary.
Perhaps he was also familiar with the January 11, 2017 politico article that was an investigative report.
It takes, you know, when you print out something on the internet, it says how long it takes to read 22 minutes.
It says it'll take the average person to read their investigative report that chronicles Ukrainian election interference.
And that does not, by the way, in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Is that a conspiracy theory by conservatives saying it wasn't Russia, it was Ukraine?
They're saying it was Ukraine, not Russia.
No, we're not.
Devin Nunes was right.
Russia, he warned, would interfere in the 2016 election.
Even the New York Times with their unsourced hearsay, you know, Maggie Haberman piece.
I mean, there's such hacks over at the New York Times.
I mean, maybe they're right this time.
They'd be lucky.
I have no idea what's in John Bolton's head.
I don't really care.
I've invited John Bolton to be on this show.
I've invited John Bolton to be on TV.
John Bolton, you want to talk?
Come on my show.
Known John Bolton a long time.
Always had a good relationship with him.
I know from people that I've talked to and my sources that John Bolton didn't get along with Mick Mulvaney, didn't get along with Mike Pompeo.
And John Bolton was very unhappy that he was let go by the president.
That part I know.
Okay, but if the DOJ and Pompeo and Mulvaney all contradict whatever it is the New York Times is suggesting may or may not be in some manuscript of John Bolton's, well, who are you going to go with?
Well, then a jury would say, oh, that's called conflicting testimony.
And that means it wouldn't go anywhere in the end.
Nobody seems to care.
This is who they are.
This defines them.
Doesn't matter how good things are.
It doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter the quid pro Joe, Quo Joe, and zero experience Hunter.
Now, for the president, why did he mention them?
Because Joe's on tape bragging about shaking down the country of Ukraine using taxpayer dollars and doing it so that a prosecutor will be fired investigating his son, being paid millions, $83,000 a month, while the average American is making less than $54,000 a year.
And the president's, wow, the stuff about Joe and Hunter, wow.
He didn't say to investigate them.
He did say, do us a favor, get to the bottom of any election interference, which, by the way, is another legitimate thing.
And I guess I was one of the few that have been saying all along, yeah, we really need to, you know, understand a president's role is to faithfully execute the laws of the land.
Now, the president will always say, the call was perfect.
It's a perfect call.
Okay.
I don't know if there's such a thing as a perfect call, but I see nothing wrong with the call.
Nothing at all.
Matter of fact, I think now, in many ways, the Democrats, dumb as they are, that have done nothing for three years except hate Trump, may have done the country a favor.
Because now the country, when they listen to Quid Pro Quo Joe and they hear the devastating case laid out about the Bidens and they realize how much money Hunter was making, and we'll have Peter Schweitzer back, his new book, Profiles in Corruption, Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite.
And there are five separate Biden family members that are getting rich off of access to Joe.
Wow.
I think that might be room for an investigation.
Now, is the media going to do that?
No.
Now, let me get back to this whole fake news CNN issue.
I guess it's Don Lemon's show.
I met Don Lemon, you know, occasionally, same circles in terms of, and I go out very infrequently.
I mean, I am a hermit.
I'm focused on my jobs.
That's what I do.
Anyway, he far-left op-ed writer, some guy named whatever, I can't even pronounce his name, anti-established Republican.
I guess this was, what's his name?
Yeah, Rick Wilson, who was John McCain's guy, I think, I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly.
It's amazing all the McCain people.
Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt.
I got along with all them.
I have no problem with any of them.
I get it.
They don't like Donald Trump.
But how they can support all this madness, I don't know.
I guess people like being on television is my theory or my guess.
That would probably explain Liberal Joe.
I don't have a problem with Liberal Joe either.
And I don't care that they don't like me, any of them.
Doesn't matter to me.
I don't need to be liked by them.
I would prefer to do the show that they don't do.
And that is not spread lies, hoaxes, conspiracy theories, propaganda, misinformation, and being basically nothing but an extension of the press office of all things radical, extreme, Democratic socialist.
And of course, hate Trump every second of every day.
Now, I mentioned Obama that, you know, these bitter Pennsylvanians that cling to their God.
That's a pretty awful thing to say.
I mean, I would think praying to God, believing in your creator, believing that there is the majesty of creation in our founding document, that we're endowed by our creator.
All rights come from him.
They're God-given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I think that's within American tradition.
One nation under God.
That's us.
That's what I always thought.
And by the way, it doesn't have to be one religion.
We believe in religious freedom.
But more important than, of course, we get some other insight, irredeemable deplorables, but clinging to God, guns, our Constitution, our Bibles, and religion.
Wow, sounds like contempt for conservatives or Governor Cuomo in New York.
I don't have a problem really with Governor Cuomo.
I totally disagree with his socialist policies.
I think he is pushing people out of New York every day to the detriment of New Yorkers.
But that's my thoughts.
I'm not running for governor.
I couldn't win the governorship in New York.
And then you got, let's see, irredeemable deplorables.
And then the Peter Strzok Lisa Page.
I can smell them from here.
Trump supporters, smelly Walmart shoppers.
Wow.
But this takes the cake because listen to how they discuss the American people.
And let me tell you what's at the bottom of all things, Trump.
It's not just Donald Trump they hate.
They hate we, the people that elected him.
There's a contempt.
There is a elitism.
There is a disconnect that is so deep.
You know, we're always lectured by the left that we should be inclusive in everything.
But when it comes to, you know, ripping conservatives to shreds and those people that do all the working and building and paying of taxes and raising their kids and obeying the laws and voting for Donald Trump.
By the way, there's like, how many hundreds of thousands of people signed up to get in the New Jersey rally tonight?
New Jersey.
Donald Trump getting, you know, as of like day one, they had 100,000 people sign up.
I saw lines on social media today.
They're massive.
Never seen anything like it.
He should have moved it to the Meadowlands.
They would have been able to fill it five times over.
Now listen to fake news CNN.
This, you know, unfortunately, I would argue is how a lot of the media establishment, this is the New York, D.C., San Francisco, LA, leftist, elitist mentality establishment sounds like the swamp creatures, in other words.
Listen.
Of course.
He's just trying to demean her, and obviously it's false.
And look, he also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter U and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it.
He knows that this is, you know, an administration defined by ignorance of the world.
And so that's partly him playing to their base and playing to their audience.
You know, the credulous boomer rube demo that backs Donald Trump that wants to think that Donald Trump's a smart one and they're all y'all elitist for them.
You elitist with your geography and your maps and your spelling, even though my math and you're reading.
Yeah, you're reading, you know, your geography, knowing other countries, sipping your latte, all those lines on the map.
Only them elitists know where Ukraine is.
Sorry, I apologize.
Oh, my God.
But you know, it was Rick's fault.
I blame Rick.
But in all honesty, why not?
Sorry, hold on.
Wait, wait.
Can I tell you a second?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, it's good.
Sorry.
Rick, that was a good one.
I needed that.
This is CNN.
Fake news CNN, the Rube demo.
You know how all them peoples is and all that stuff.
And, you know, reading a map and no lines on the map and geography.
And Melitas said the only ones know what Ukraine is.
Pretty breathtaking, isn't it?
Now, Don Lemon, it's not his first rodeo.
I mean, let's listen to some of the greatest hits of him.
He has given oxygen to racists.
He is clearly trying to ignite a civil war in this country.
This president constantly denigrates people of color and women too.
Let us not mince words.
Let me not mince words here.
This president traffics in racism and is fueled by bullying.
What I saw was a minstrel show today, straight out of a dictator's playbook.
For anyone out there, any of you attempting to defend what he did, you're an enabler.
He apparently doesn't care about you or America or the dignity of the office.
How many times will you look the other way?
How can you look at yourselves in the mirror?
How can you?
So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right.
And we have to start doing something about them.
There is no travel ban on them.
There is no ban on, you know, they had the Muslim ban.
There is no white guy ban.
So what do we do about that?
No white guy ban, whatever that means.
I'll just let it stick.
I'll let it speak for itself.
I just don't even have words for it at this point.
And I guess all the brilliance of these liberal leftist commentators, did they get Russia right?
No.
Did they lie for three years?
Yeah.
Did they lie to the, did they ever investigate Hillary Espionage Act, real obstruction of justice?
Did they ever get into FISA abuse and the dirty Russian dossier she paid for?
Even the New York Times, likely Russian disinformation, or the fact that news last week, yeah, the Department of Justice saying that those FISA warrants were wrongly obtained.
They premeditated fraud on a FISA court by the top people in our justice and FBI, not the 99%.
We have spying on a president.
How deep, we'll find out soon enough.
Deeper than what we know now, I'll tell you that.
Likely using allied nations for the purpose of outsourcing intelligence gathering to circumvent American law.
They getting any of that right?
No.
They loved Obama.
How was Obama's economy?
How is Obama's foreign policy?
There's so smart Biden, Obama.
Yeah, we're going to give $150 billion to mullahs in Iran that chant death to America and hope they like us.
Or Bill Clinton trying to bribe Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-un's father.
It's a good American people.
No, it wasn't.
It was a disaster.
We have Republican senators that want to lend legitimacy to this.
Okay, bring in Bolton.
I don't care.
Bring in Pompeo, I guess.
Bring in Mulvaney, but then bring in Hunter and then bring in Joe.
And then bring in the congenital liars compromise shift and then bring in shift staff and then bring in the hearsay whistleblower and then bring in the people that heard the hearsay whistleblower according to a report talk about eliminating and getting rid of Trump two weeks into the administration with another Obama holdover.
Let's do it all.
All right, we got Jim Jordan.
We got Jordan Seculo.
Peter Schweitzer is going to do a deep dive for us even deeper on how corrupt these liberal elitists are.
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What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
Kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Navak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right, lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Some of the other headlines that we have to cover this morning for you at 12 minutes past the hour.
All right, so President Trump is denying a bombshell report that claims that he told former National Security Advisor John Bolton to continue freezing aid to Ukraine until they launched the political investigations he wanted.
Bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
The president's own supporters on Capitol Hill scrambling, trying to figure out exactly how to move forward now that this John Bolton bombshell has just absolutely shaken Washington.
A seismic shock hit Capitol Hill like a thunderbolt.
Bombshell, former National Security Advisor John Bolton ready to turn on the president as news leaks from his explosive new book about what he claims really happened with Ukraine.
And I feel like with the Bolton testimony or this bombshell about the manuscript, an explosive report just out and it could be a bombshell.
An explosive new account from former National Security Advisor John Bolton that could undercut the president's case.
Bombshell in the impeachment trial of President Trump.
The stunning new report about John Bolton directly contradicts Trump's defense.
That bombshell report upending the impeachment trial of President Trump.
Bolton's bombshell.
A startling new report could upend the impeachment trial.
Bolton drops the bombshell in an unpublished manuscript for his forthcoming book.
Unpublished manuscript from John Bolton that has just turned President Trump's world upside down.
Seems to me the meaning of the John Bolton absolute bombshell.
Nobody expected this last night.
I was shocked when I saw it.
Joining us now is Mike Schmidt, who broke this story for the New York Times tonight, as well as last night's bombshell.
The Senate impeachment trial enters its second week with the president's lawyers continuing their defense.
But will a bombshell revelation finally seal the deal on calling witnesses to the trial?
This new John Bolton bombshell may undermine a key Trump legal defense that there was no evidence that Trump withheld aid from Ukraine in exchange for launching the investigation into his rival.
By the way, Nancy Pelosi looks very smart for delaying walking over those articles so that more journalists could do their jobs.
The Bolton bombshell is not the last.
We know that he is trying to get the Republicans to hold back, not to say publicly, we want witnesses.
He wants this to go away.
Perhaps he was totally blindsided.
I'm told he had no idea this was coming.
On Sunday night, a bombshell new report in the New York Times could undermine one of the core defenses.
What are you picking up in Republican circles about that bombshell in the New York Times?
I think this is a game changer.
Can they ever once think of their own words to use when it comes to manufacturing crisis?
Russia, Russia, a stormy, stormy, impeach, impeach.
It's just rewind.
Let me just say up front, it does not undermine the president's defense, not even remotely undermine the president's defense.
Well, if, in fact, the president said it, let's just assume.
Who knows?
Because it's a manuscript that even the New York Times is telling everybody, well, it's an anonymous hearsay sources, whatever.
It doesn't matter, does it?
Because, well, we have the transcript.
They never talked about aid, never talked about a quit or a pro or a quo.
Same people on the call.
Zelensky said it over and over and over again.
And we have the transcript.
He said, never any pushing, never any pressure, never any linkage between security assistance dollars and either the announcement or some investigation in Ukraine.
Never.
Ukrainians didn't know at the time of the call the aid had been held.
And more importantly, now, did the Ukrainians take any action?
Nope.
Did they ever start an investigation?
Nope.
Did they ever promise to start an investigation if they were given aid?
Nope.
Did they ever announce an investigation?
Nope.
Did they get their money?
Yep.
And there were five meetings after the call, high-level.
VP, Secretary Pompeo, Olad Zelensky, all these ambassadors, hearsay witnesses.
Yeah.
No, they never discussed money once.
Only fact witness that actually talked to the president about what he wants from Ukraine, nothing.
No quit or pro or quo.
So they're bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
It means nothing.
Well, let me say, you know, I think I'm going to rob this jewelry store because I think I can get a lot of money.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm even telling my friends, I think if I end up robbing this jewelry store, I'm going to get rich.
Okay, but I never do it.
Did I, okay, any crime?
Thinking is thinking a crime.
We think all sorts of things.
I don't think so.
That's what they're trying to convince you.
The same exact people that have been wronged for three years, the same people that have perpetuated lies, propaganda, misinformation, conspiracy theories, hoax,
the same three people, the same people that even, like Schiff, lied about the dirty dossier of Hillary Clinton, and that being the bulk of information in the FISA applications that we now know even the DOJ is admitting were, yeah, illegal.
I mean, the same people that missed the biggest story of their lives and got everything else wrong.
The same people that wake up every second, every minute, every conscious, if you could even call it conscience, conscious hour of every day, hating Donald Trump.
The same exact cast of characters in the mob and the media.
And of course, you know, led by the biggest liar of them all, the compromised congenital liar, Adam Schiff.
By the way, Mitch McConnell, after the defense team wrapped up their arguments, he laid out what's going to happen over the next couple of days of the trial, 16 hours of questioning, eight hours each side.
Went on to describe the process, saying the questions alternate between the majority and minority sides for up to eight hours on Wednesday and Thursday.
McConnell reminded senators that their questions must be in writing and will be submitted to the Chief Justice John Roberts.
During the question period of the Clinton trial, senators were thoughtful and brief with their questions, and the managers and counsel were succinct in their answers.
I hope we can follow both of those examples during this time.
Jordan Seculo, part of the president's defense team, joins us now.
How are you, Jordan Seculo?
What's going on?
We're doing good.
Tell me what's going on.
Well, let me just say, I think that today what you heard was a very, as you just used the word succinct, but I'm going to use it again, a succinct close to our opening, if you will.
We do get a closing statement, but for our opening, I think the Chief Justice said we still have 11 and a half hours or something like that left when we started today, and I think we used about two, maybe a little bit more because there was a break.
I don't know if that doesn't actually count again.
Yeah, thankfully, we didn't use all 20, whatever, four hours.
Thank God.
We didn't need to.
We didn't need to because as we said today, and we kind of summed it all up, that this is just, it's not impeachable offense.
We played Nadler saying that.
We played Lofgren saying that.
So two of the House managers saying that on the floor of the House.
We played Markey, who is now a U.S. Senator.
He was on the floor of the House then.
Bob Menendez, a U.S. Senator, and, of course, the minority leader, Democrat Chuck Schumer, saying that you can never have a partisan impeachment right off the top.
This should fail because partisan impeachment alone is a danger, as my dad said, danger, danger, danger to our constitutional republic.
And I think as Pat Cipollone said, it's a republic if they, and he was talking about these House members, but also the Senate, if they let us keep it.
Because if this is the new standard, every future president will be impeached because of policy differences by a different majority in the House.
If they face a majority party in the House, which most do at some time in their presidency, that they will be impeached over policy differences.
And as Alan Dershowitz said, and I think this was a great line, we could use abuse of power all we want.
But if you don't say like abuse of power, and here's the crimes from the abuse of power, abuse of power should be left into politics.
You're abusing the power, and that's something that the American people get to decide.
Hey, is this guy going too far with his power?
Is he abusing it?
Is it so?
Even though he might have it, do we want him to be using it this way?
Do we want someone who's more tempered, more different tone, whatever?
Leave that up, see, very.
Let me ask you a question.
Because that's what they tried to litigate here.
When Obama said to Medbedev.
Tell Vladimir Putin on more flexibility after the election.
Would he now, under the new rules, be impeached?
Because I think he would be.
And I also think that if you really want to quit in a pro and a quote, which is why if they're going to bring witnesses, I want zero experience Hunter, paid millions, $83,000 a month, while the average American is making less than $54,000 a year.
I want him to explain how a zero experience that they paid the zero experience guy all that money and that his father used the billion taxpayer dollars to shake down Ukraine and you got six hours and you're not getting the billion unless you fire the prosecutor.
I want to hear from him and I want to hear from the congenital liar and his staff and I want to hear from the hearsay non-whistleblower whistleblower and what that person may have said two weeks into the Trump administration.
I think that's one of the big issues here.
You know, we're going to have these two days of questioning.
And let me tell you, this is the first time Adam Schiff's going to face questions.
This is going to be very interesting.
This is the first time Adam Schiff is going to have to answer questions about his staff's contact with the whistleblower that he admitted to ultimately after first denying it.
He's going to have to answer to that.
There's no way that question is not going to be asked senators.
Let me ask you this then.
Think about it.
He's going to have to answer.
He's always been in charge.
And for the beginning of this, it was just him speaking.
We couldn't object.
This wasn't like a normal kind of opening statement, technically.
So he got to say whatever he wanted, disparage the president, make up laws as he went.
Have a lot of time.
I want to ask you this.
Your father did a great job.
Pat Sipaloni did a great job.
Dershowitz did a great job.
Pam Bondi did a great job.
I want to go to the constitutional issue.
Dershowitz says, about Bolton.
No, nothing in Bolton's book would be an impeachable offense.
It's part of the way foreign policy has been operated by presidents since the beginning of time.
The claim that foreign policy decisions can be deemed as abuse of power, you know, is ridiculous.
He basically went on to say.
Then he said, then he went on to say, nothing about Bolton, even if true.
Now, if I think, Jordan, about robbing a store, I think about it, but I don't do it because the president, he got nothing.
They got all their money.
They got a lot of it early.
And then just to, you know, they never promised anything.
They never did anything.
So tell me where we have an, why are we even here?
We shouldn't be here.
It's all politics.
It's why it's a partisan impeachment.
And it's why we had Kinstar and Alan Dershowitz agreeing with each other on this.
That when you have this completely partisan impeachment, you have no actual crime alleged, nothing even close to a criminal consciousness, you have no crime, completely partisan, and very lack of process and due process, which is a right in the Constitution.
Then when you put all those three together, they should weigh very heavily against voting for these articles.
And as Alan Dershowitz said, take all you want at the New York Times, okay?
Say that he would actually testify to all of that, you know?
All right, I'm going to have to run, but give everybody on your team.
I thought it was a wonderful.
I thought everybody did a great job on your team, including your dad.
You should be proud of your dad and yourself.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, Sean.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Ham.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Mayfook from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
By the way, the president announced a new plan for Israel and the Palestinian people.
Tale of two Americas, dealing with China, going to Davos.
Oh, getting trade deals with Mexico and China.
100,000, I think a couple of hundred thousand now signed up.
The lines are massive in New Jersey.
You know, how many people showed up at a Biden event?
Oh, 75 in Wildwood, New Jersey.
75.
You can read about all this on Hannity.com.
Biden invites Michelle Obama to be his running mate.
Okay.
And meanwhile, what do we?
It's a tale of two Americas.
Anyone, by the way, ever remember why John Bolton actually resigned?
You know, so upset about the president in Ukraine.
Why didn't he resign over it?
He ended up not being able to get along.
I don't know why.
I always liked John.
I never had a problem with John Bolton.
You know, I have no idea if any of this is true.
But he resigned a month after president's phone call.
But a lot of it, I think, had to do with the fact the president was going to hit Iran and at the last minute stopped, according to my sources.
That was a big part of it.
But some things never change in all this.
By the way, we now have, I mean, not only do we have the issue of, you know, this guy can't even get 100 people to show up, meaning Joe Biden, you know, quid pro quo, Joe.
Now the DNC seems to be stacking the deck against Bernie again.
Now Bernie's co-chair.
If the DNC believes they're going to get away in 2020, what they did with 2016, they have another thing coming.
You've got, let's see.
Where is it?
I have it here somewhere.
Oh, the Republicans, by the way, have now had a record raise, off-year record of $68 million raised.
And Kevin McCarthy set an all-time annual fundraising record as the GOP now moves to take back the House.
Oh, that would be pretty good.
And then you got all the infighting going on in the Democratic primary.
That starts next Monday.
And everyone thinks that they're trying to screw Bernie again because Bernie now has overtaken Biden for the first time in New Hampshire and in Iowa.
Chris Matthews is now suggesting Bernie wouldn't stop his car to help an injured person.
I guess it's all groupthink with everybody.
Even Obama apparently thinks Bernie's unfit and must be stopped.
All right, Jim Jordan, when we get back.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Ham, and I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of 10, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and, frankly, bullshit.
We killed the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfock from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
It's been over six weeks since Inspector General Horowitz released his report detailing the FBI's illegal surveillance of President Donald Trump's campaign back in 2016.
Six weeks since the Inspector General published his findings that the FBI illegally spied on then-candidate Trump.
We know it was illegal spying because the Justice Department admitted it.
Just last week, the FBI admitted that they didn't have evidence for at least two warrants on the Trump campaign.
Inspector General Horowitz, we are glad that you're here.
But for the life of me, I can't imagine why this committee, the committee that has direct jurisdiction over the Inspector Generals, would not call you to testify about the serious FBI abuses that you uncovered.
It's been six weeks since you published your 400-plus page report about the FBI abusing the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign, and our chair has still yet not invited you to speak.
Think about what the FBI did.
They went to a secret court to get a search warrant to spy on the presidential campaign in America.
They did it.
This is what the FISA judge, Rosemary Collier, said just last month, December 17, 2019, quote, the frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable.
Put that in plain English, you guys screwed up so much.
How can we trust any other representation you've made to the court?
That's what the FISA court judge said last week in response to Mr. Horowitz's 400-plus page report.
Think about what was going on here.
The FBI's basis in asking the court to spy on the Trump campaign was, quote, unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession.
The FBI had evidence that members of the Trump team were innocent, and they held that back from the court.
Remember, they got the initial application, the initial warrant, and then they did three renewals.
Didn't tell the court important information in those renewal applications.
The report is so unbelievable, you could not even make some of this stuff up for a TV show.
No American suspects things like this occur.
An FBI lawyer fabricated an email to support a warrant on the Trump campaign.
The FBI was doing this to a presidential candidate.
Think about what they could do to regular Americans.
And that's why Judge Collier ordered the FBI to begin reviewing other applications.
And we still have not had a FISA hearing, either here or maybe more importantly, in the Judiciary Committee.
Chairman Nadler is yet to call a hearing.
This is a whistleblower hearing.
It's an important issue that I'm looking forward to discussing.
But I will also take this opportunity, as I said earlier, to ask a few questions about Inspector General Horowitz's findings in his report.
The chair told us earlier this month that the Inspector General has already testified before the Senate and that his presence before our committee is unnecessary.
Since when did the Oversight Committee say, oh, if the Senate's doing it, we don't have to have a hearing.
I have never heard that.
My 13 years in Congress, never heard that.
And imagine if it was reversed.
Imagine if Inspector General Horowitz uncovered the FBI fabricating emails to spy on candidate Clinton.
Betsy, the Democrats would be having hearings in this committee.
We'd already had several, both in this committee and the Judiciary Committee.
That was Congressman Jim Jordan.
He's part of the congressional advisory team of the president, by the way.
This was what you just heard.
Part of the House Subcommittee for Oversight today was able to question the Inspector General, Michael Horowitz.
And this is his first interview since that hearing.
Now, this is on the heels of the Department of Justice in what was a pretty unprecedented way last week admitting everything that we had been reporting.
Premeditated, brought in a FISA court, identifying Pfizer renewal applications three and four as absolutely unjustified.
Congressman Jim Jordan is with us.
How are you, sir?
I'm good, Sean.
Good to be with you.
Think about it.
By the way, Sean, for a couple years.
Think about what we went through for a couple of years.
And finally, Horowitz's report comes out and vindicates everything you've been saying for two plus years about what the FBI did.
That's really what this is all about.
We were right.
Adam Schiff was wrong with his memo that he put out and said everything was fine.
That's what this is really about.
Well, yeah, I agree with that.
I want to get into all of this in a second here.
But, you know, and it's so funny.
I was watching everyone and I was playing, I played a montage in the last hour.
Bombshell, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
Talking about John Bolton.
I mean, if I thought about Rob at a jewelry store or a convenience store, whatever, I'm thinking, I tell my friends, I think I'm going to rob this convenience store.
I don't like the owner of that convenience store, which is stupid.
But let's say I did that.
But I don't do that.
If the president vented and said, you know, these people need to be investigating these things.
Okay.
Let's say that the president said that.
Let's say John Bolton is telling the truth that he said that.
Although everyone else seems to contradict it.
And we don't even know if any of it's true or in the manuscript because nobody's seen it.
And even the New York Times is citing anonymous, again, hearsay sources, which is more insanity.
That doesn't change the four facts that'll never change, not the least of which, even if the president said it, the Ukrainians didn't know at the time that anybody was held back.
They got a lot of it early, and they took no action, never started an investigation.
They never promised to start an investigation.
They never announced an investigation.
They got all their money.
So what does it matter if the president said it?
Which is in dispute.
No, you're exactly right, Sean.
What someone told the New York Times about what John Bolton's manuscript supposedly says doesn't change the underlying facts.
Doesn't change what happened.
And you're exactly right.
If the president said, I don't know that they did, because look, this is like you said, again, just more hearsay.
It doesn't change the facts.
They're all on the president's side.
And I thought the White House team, I thought they did a great job last year.
I thought they did a phenomenal job.
The constitutional case, the legal case, and the factual, the evidence, the factual case, all are on the president's side.
And that's why I think you're seeing Republicans stick together.
And hopefully we're going to get this thing over with this week.
Okay, I'd like to see that.
But then I watch guys like Mitt Romney.
I'm going to tell you something about how I feel about Mitt Romney.
I've always liked Mitt Romney.
I've liked his family.
I got to know his wife.
A wonderful guy.
And you know what?
I went all in.
I knew he'd be a better president than Obama.
I think I was proven right.
It was the right person to vote for it.
He was the candidate that won.
Fine.
But it seems like I don't understand this.
When people lose elections, they get something like a switch in their brain goes off.
Because ever since then, everything that he said he would do as president from judges and taxes and regulation and right on down the line is what Donald Trump is doing.
I get it.
Maybe he doesn't like Donald Trump's New York style.
I grew up in New York.
I'm kind of used to that style.
It doesn't bother me so much.
It's on my first rodeo, you know, dealing with combative people or fighters.
I like fighters.
You used to be a wrestler.
And then, oh, I think now we need Bolton.
Why would any senator, Republican, senator, if their constitutional role is to try the case, ever take on the sole role of the House, which is to do the impeachment, which they did, and they're presenting their case?
Yeah.
Now, I think about what the Democrats are saying.
The witness count in the House was 17 to 0.
Adam Schiff called all the witnesses.
He issued the subpoena.
We didn't get to subpoena anyone.
We didn't get to call any of our witnesses.
It was 17 to 0.
And now you have people saying, the Democrats saying, oh, we want to make it 18 to 0.
We wanted to make it 17 to 0 in the House.
And now we're not going to call any of those 17 witnesses.
We want to call an additional witness and make it 18 to 0.
That is completely ridiculous.
The American people understand that.
They have seen the case put on by the president's team.
They understand the factual case.
They understand the legal case.
They understand the constitutional case.
And all those arguments are strongly on the president's side.
So let's get this over with, and then let's get about doing the things that we told the American people we were going to do, continuing to deliver on all those things President Trump said he would do that he's already got done.
Let's keep doing more.
As he said, let's keep winning.
I agree.
And what makes you think, now, if we're going to open the stupid door of witnesses, okay, then I really want to hear from you're not getting the billion unless you fire the prosecutor investigating my zero experienced son being paid millions, $83,000 a month, to be exact, less than the 54, and the average American makes less than $54,000 a year.
I think that would mean that the president had a right to be like, what the hell is going on here?
And then, because we had the tape of Joe bragging about it, we just had the two-year anniversary last week, January 20th.
I would like to hear from them.
I'd like to hear from the congenital liar.
I'd like to hear from the hearsay non-whistleblower whistleblower, apparently two weeks into the Trump administration, was talking about getting rid of him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd like to hear from a lot of folks, and you're right.
If we're going to go down this road, I've said it all along.
I don't think we should.
But if they go down this road, if you're going to bring witnesses in, you've got to go all the way down.
You've got to bring in the Bidens.
You've got to bring in the whistleblower.
I want to hear from the whistleblower.
I've always wanted to hear from the whistleblower.
How about Adam Schiff initially told us he wanted to hear from the whistleblower and then suddenly changed his mind when it was discovered his staff had met with the whistleblower prior to him going to the inspector general?
So I want to hear from it.
Look, I hope they don't go to witnesses.
I hope they just vote to acquit, which everyone knows is the right move.
But if they go down this road, I want to hear from the whistleblowers.
And like you say, the Bidens and potentially Adam Schiff, who was part of the record as well.
Okay, let's go back to these hearings with Horowitz because everything that guys like you and Devin and Mark Meadows and Matt Gates and John Ratcliffe, I'm not going to remember everybody.
All my ensemble team of everybody that people know who.
I'll forget somebody, so I don't want to offend anybody.
But everything we reported was right.
Everything the mob and the media reported was wrong.
Everything Schiff told us for three years was a lie.
And it's the same people, interestingly, doing the Ukrainian thing.
What did Horowitz say and where is this going?
What did you learn today?
Well, the key is go back two years ago.
Go back to January of 2018 when Devin puts out his memo.
And remember what the left said.
Remember what the Democrats said, oh, that's terrible.
It's wrong.
It's not accurate.
Turned out everything Chairman Noon has cited in that memo was exactly right.
The only thing we got wrong is it was worse than we thought.
But remember, a few weeks after that, Chairman, now Chairman Schiff put out his memo, and he said this at the start of his memo.
The FBI and DOJ officials did not abuse the FISA process, and they did not omit material information.
That was such a false statement because Horowitz told us last month they lied 17 times in the Carter Page FISE application.
17 specific, but 52 subsections of the lie.
Right.
50 some more, 17 that they said these were so egregious, we're going to single out these 17, but 50 some more in total.
So that's how bad it was.
They even had one of the FBI lawyers change an email that was the basis for what they then put into their application to go to the court.
And he changed it from saying was a source to was not a source.
So 180 degrees change, not a little subtle change, 180 degrees opposite that they took to the court.
That's how crazy.
They didn't tell the court that Christopher Steele, I've seen the document where Christopher Steele told Bruce Orr, yeah, he was desperate to stop Trump.
They didn't tell the court that, even though they had that information, they didn't tell the court that Clinton campaigned paid for all this dossier stuff.
So that's how bad it was.
And the Nunes memo two years ago this month was 100% right.
And Adam Schiff put out a memo contradicting it, saying it wasn't right.
And his memo was the one that was actually telling the falsehoods.
All right.
So did we get anything else?
Now, what about Horowitz was contradicted by John Durham and by the Attorney General in as much as they didn't agree with some of his findings.
And by the way, let's give a little room to breathe for Inspector General Horowitz because he's limited in his scope of investigation.
He's only allowed, if I'm not mistaken, to investigate the realm within the Department of Justice and FBI.
So he didn't have the ability, like the Attorney General and the Prosecutor Durham, to go abroad, especially on the issues of the potential of outsourcing spying to allied nations for the purpose of circumventing American law.
Do you believe that happened?
Yeah.
Well, look, let me go where you were at, Sean, there, too, is Inspector General Horowitz has done good work.
And you're right.
He can't subtain at people.
He can't look at people who've left the FBI.
There's things he's limited by.
But overall, his work product has been very good.
One of the things we did ask him in today's hearing is what other reports are coming.
And I was right at the end of my time, so he didn't get to fully elaborate on that.
But there's more information coming from just the Inspector General.
And of course, as you point out, there's the investigation that Mr. Durham and Mr. Barr are doing that we think is really going to get to the bottom of all what took place in 2016 and 2017 when the FBI and DRJ spied on the Trump campaign.
Okay, so we know spying occurred.
Even the Attorney General has now confirmed that.
They've spent an awful lot of time abroad.
Now, do you believe the evidence eventually might show that high-ranking people in the intelligence community, again, there are certain, we know there were two separate areas where spying occurred.
One was through the FISA application of Carter Page to spy on a candidate transition team president.
Then we had the issue of foreign nations and whether they also spied on a president.
Do you believe that happened?
Because I do.
I do.
I do.
I think, and those are the two we always talked about, Carter Page and Papadopoulos.
And Papadopoulos was these foreign sources that looked like they were spying on him and getting information that away versus going and getting the warrant and doing the surveillance and things that happen when you get a FISA warrant.
So I do think that that took place.
But we also know it was not just the two that they were looking at.
They were looking at Manafort and Flynn as well.
So four individuals that were being spied on.
And that word right there is what set the Democrats off.
Because when Bill Barr first testified in front of the Civil Finance Committee and said there was a fair leadership at the operational, the FBI, Ben said spying took place.
When he uttered the word spying, they went crazy.
He said there's a basis for my concern about the spying, which is the stuff that we've been talking about.
And then the fourth thing he said was you use the term political surveillance, political surveillance.
And it sure looks like that's exactly what took place based on Horowitz's report.
And then holding people accountable is what John Durham did, because that's ultimately how you're going to stop this.
If you don't hold people accountable for what all took place, it'll never end.
And as we said before, it won't just be about a president.
It could be about any of us.
Well, I think that's all true.
Congressman Jim Jordan, you've been amazing.
What do you think the odds are?
This does end, say, Friday, Saturday this week after the questioning.
I think it's good.
I think it's good.
I think it ends later this week and the acquittal for the president, which everyone knows is the right move.
You really, what would you give the odds at?
I think there are strong odds, frankly.
I really do.
I don't see.
I mean, look, you never saw any senators breaking, Republican senators breaking ranks after the Democrats.
And we hadn't even put on our case yet.
So then our site puts on the case and they come up with this crazy Bolton thing, this manuscript, and it's still not moving.
So I think senators understand that this whole thing has been ridiculous.
Let's get it over with and let's get about doing the people's goods.
Congressman Jim Jordan, great state of Ohio, will be paying attention to your state in 280 days when the people, the ultimate jury, speaks and we get to shock the world again.
Coming up next, our final news roundup and information overload hour.
Here's what happened very shortly after Vice President Biden was made U.S. point man for Ukraine.
His son, Hunter Biden, ends up on the board of Burisma, working for and paid by the oligarch Zolchevsky.
Every witness who was asked about Hunter Biden's involvement with Burisma agreed there was a potential appearance of a conflict of interest.
ABC, Good Morning America, The Washington Post, The New York Times, Ukrainian law enforcement, and the Obama State Department itself.
They all thought there was cause to raise the issue about the Bidens and Burisma.
The typical board member of these Fortune 100 companies, we know they're titans of their industry.
They're highly qualified.
And as such, they're well compensated.
Even so, Hunter Biden was paid significantly more.
This is how well he was compensated.
So Hunter Biden is paid over $83,000 a month.
While the average American family of four during that time, each year, made less than $54,000.
And that's according to U.S. Census Bureau during that time.
And this is what's been reported about his work on the board.
The Washington Post said, quote, what specific duties Hunter Biden carried out for Burisma are not fully known, end quote.
The New Yorker reported, quote, once or twice a year, he attended Burisma board meetings and energy forums that took place in Europe, end quote.
When speaking with ABC News about his qualifications to be on Burisma's board, Hunter Biden didn't point to any of the usual qualifications of a board member.
Hunter Biden had no experience in natural gas, no experience in the energy sector, no experience with Ukrainian regulatory affairs.
As far as we know, he doesn't speak Ukrainian.
So naturally, the media has asked questions about his board membership.
Why was Hunter Biden on this board?
If your last name wasn't Biden, do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of Burisma?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably not.
Probably not.
$83,000 a month and, oh, he'd go to Europe on a couple of trips to sit on a board where he knows nothing.
You guys want to go out to dinner?
You want to go out?
Let's go to dinner.
Driving a brand new Porsche as he finally says, Okay, I guess I'll have to pay for the kid that I guess is mine after denying that it was ever his kid.
Just a sleazebag in so many different ways.
Now, why is this important?
Why, why do the does the mob and the media, why do the Democrats, oh, no, no, no, nobody credible has ever suggested that we ever did anything wrong with the Bidens.
Why would okay, well, it gets to the heart of why Hunter, zero experience, paid millions, uh, had his father leverage a billion dollars.
Why would the president ever talk about such a thing?
Because it's corruption, that's why it's law-breaking, that's why it's a shakedown with your money.
That's why, and just because the you know, congenital liar who's compromised and corrupt, Adam Schiff says, No, there's nothing here as he sent over the less uh Lev Pardon's new information doesn't mean it's true.
And it's the same Bolton, oh my gosh, John Bowl, bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.
We've heard that for the last three straight years.
Everything's a bombshell.
There's no bombshells here.
Well, except this.
Now, this is where the derangement of the left has brought this country to the brink where you have to compartmentalize and bifurcate your brain.
You have to take on breathtaking, shocking levels of utter pure hypocrisy, of intellectual dishonesty, of lacking all reason, all intellectual honesty, all common sense to get to where they've taken us.
But there's more.
Peter Schweitzer, best-selling book.
It's called Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite.
Well, I'll say one thing.
In my view, after the work of Pam Bondi, I'm not so sure Quid Pro quo Joe is anywhere near the position he was in yesterday thinking that he can win the nomination.
Well, I think, Sean, look, this has been like hanging over them like a cloud really for quite a while.
And now that it's come front and center, he has no good explanation.
I mean, to continue to repeat that nobody has said we've done anything wrong, lots of people have said you've done something wrong.
Lots of people have said it's a massive conflict of interest.
Lots of people have said the Ukrainians are not paying your son a million dollars a year for nothing.
They're expecting something in return.
So what did they get in return?
Lots of people have said that Joe Biden doling out aid and threatening to fire prosecutors and just picking winners and losers as to who is going to get aid in Ukraine while his son is being paid by somebody who wants to get support from Ukraine is a massive problem.
So he does not have good answers.
And Sean, it's not just Hunter.
It's five other members of the family.
This is a pattern of behavior for the Bidens that there's no way for them to escape.
I don't think there's a way for them to escape.
And, you know, all this talk about, well, John Bolton.
Now, let's go through, let's just say, for the sake of argument, everything Bolton is saying, the president's disgusted with Ukraine.
He wants them to do things.
If they're ever going to get the money, he expects them to investigate the Bidens, which to me has always been.
And I've always said that would actually be his sworn duty to faithfully execute the laws.
But then the facts never change.
We always go back to this.
We know we have a transcript.
Aid was never mentioned on that transcript.
There was no quid pro quo ever discussed on the transcript.
That's why Schiff had to lie about it and make it up.
The two individuals on the call, the president, President Zelensky, and the foreign minister of Ukraine, everybody over and over and over, no pushing, no pressure, no linkage between security assistance and dollars.
They didn't even know at the time of the call that aid had been held back.
But by the way, they even got it all and they got it all early.
And guess what, Peter?
You know, if I say, oh, I'd like to kill that person, but I don't kill that person.
Saying I want to kill that person, but not killing that person doesn't mean a thing because they took no action.
They never started an investigation.
They never promised to start an investigation, which is all on the record.
So they got the money, a lot of it early, and they did nothing and promised to do nothing.
Those are the facts that will never change.
And the five subsequent high-profile meetings after, well, aid was never discussed then.
So why are we even here?
And why would Republicans be this pathetically weak?
And if you want witnesses, I say it needs to be quid pro quo, Joe, and Hunter and the compromised congenital liar Schiff and his staff and the hearsay whistleblower, non-whistleblower.
That's who I want to hear from.
Yeah, and that's who we should hear from.
And, you know, Sean, as you pointed out, I mean, the main piece of evidence they have, the contact that Donald Trump has with Ukrainian officials, with Zelensky, is that telephone transcript.
And people are sort of doing backflips, his critics, to say, well, you know, he's hinting at a quid pro quo.
He's subtly leveraging his position, to which I say, look, I mean, what about Donald Trump and his dealing with foreign nations is ever subtle?
When he's dealing with the Chinese, when he's upset with our allies, he's not hinting at anything.
He's explicit.
He's out there.
He's blunt and he's direct.
So the notion that he is going to shake down, as they claim, a foreign country, the Ukrainians, to get this research, you know, and he's going to hint at it and wink at it is just patently absurd.
And I agree with you.
There's absolutely nothing inappropriate about having a conversation with a foreign leader to investigate corruption.
You're talking about, in the case of Ukraine, entanglements that involve the vice president and his son and also involve Zelensky and oligarchs who have had billions of dollars of U.S. money disappear.
I mean, think about this, Sean.
Zelensky is elected the leader of Ukraine.
The man that backs him is an oligarch named Kolomoyski.
Kolomoyski runs or ran something called Privat Bank.
More than a billion dollars in USAID disappeared from Prevot Bank.
There's also allegations that Kolomovsky, again, the guy that's backing Zelensky, was involved with buryma.
So how else are you going to get at the bottom of this nastiness without directly calling the leader and saying, I want you to look into this?
In my mind, it's completely appropriate.
It's what we want, particularly if people are tired of our aid dollars ending up in the pockets of foreign oligarchs and in some cases, the family members of American politicians.
I mean, the whole thing is so obnoxious.
And then I haven't gotten your take yet.
What do you think about Bolton's book?
Because the Department of Justice has pushed back against the latest account from supposedly some manuscript of Bolton, whatever.
And they rejected the description of the conversation between the Attorney General and Bolton.
They said, well, the Department of Justice has not reviewed the transcript of the manuscript.
New York Times account of the conversation grossly mischaracterizes what Attorney General Barr and Bolton discussed.
There's no discussion of personal favors, undue influence, or investigations, nor did the Attorney General state that the president's conversations with foreign leaders were improper.
And you have Mick Mulvaney disputing all aspects of it.
Now, let's say that Bolton makes whatever claim he wants to make.
Did the president act on it?
Because if he didn't, now what we're talking about is a thought crime.
I've never been one that believes in thought crimes.
Because frankly, if anyone's to do a thorough examination of their own mind and their own thinking, you realize there's a lot of crap that flies through your brain that doesn't make you guilty of a crime.
That's exactly right.
And somebody like Donald Trump, who wears his emotions on his sleeve, should not be penalized because he's thinking something or expressing something in private that other leaders are thinking or even acting on without even talking about it.
Look, I think in the case of John Bolton, we all have to read the book, first of all.
There's a lot of speculation about what's in it, what's not in it.
We also have to filter out the fact that these memoirs get written.
A lot of times, aides that are asked to leave an administration, there's frustration there.
There's maybe anger there.
But also, one aide, even the national security advisor, is not privy to the entire encompassing of what a policy was.
You had the witnesses that showed up that worked in Ukraine saying that they didn't believe there was a CRIGPROCO.
You had the Ukrainians saying that it wasn't.
So whether John Bolton thinks there was or not is honestly kind of irrelevant.
Whether one particular aide thinks that something was the policy, the question is, what was the policy and what evidence is it for there being that policy?
And that's where I think this is just sort of more of an effort to kind of extend the conversation.
They don't feel like they have the Democrats have the evidence to get Donald Trump impeached.
So they are trying to drag it out, hoping that they can continue to throw something at the situation and it'll stick.
And I just don't think that's going to work.
I don't think it's going to work.
The question is how long weak Republicans are going to drag this crap out because I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of the double stick.
I am sick of every knife that has been put in this president's back.
And yet we've had unparalleled success for the country.
That's why I can't wait for 280 days.
Let's have an up or down vote.
Yes or no?
The ultimate jury will speak.
And I hope they shock the country again.
That would be ideal to me.
And I can't wait, just the price of admission of watching the media having to utter the words we can now project Donald J. Trump has been re-elected the 45th president of the United States.
They'll lose it.
So you also talk about Bernie Elizabeth.
What is the theme that runs through your book in the minute and 15 seconds we have left so people understand this is not just the Bidens, although the Bidens are by far the worst.
This is about how public servants, progressives, instead of serving us, have been serving themselves, Sean.
The Bidens did it through five family members, self-enrichment.
Elizabeth Warren has done some very similar things.
Bernie Sanders, for all of his talk about socialism and not liking the wealthy, has engaged in self-enriching, self-serving behavior himself.
And it's really a question, Sean, of are we going to trust these individuals with more power?
They're all progressives.
Unlike conservatives and moderates and classical liberals and libertarians, progressives say, give us a lot more power to solve your problems.
Not only are they not going to solve our problems, history suggests they're going to abuse the power they're given for their own self-benefit.
And that's the defining factor here that everybody needs to get their hands around.
Unbelievable expose, and it's amazing.
It's always the left.
They're only generous with other people's money, but they're enriching themselves when they're supposed to be public servants.
It's sick.
It's twisted.
It's ugly.
And if anyone with the last name Trump ever did any of this, trust me, it would not go over well with the country.
Peter Schweitzer profiles corruption abuse by America's progressive elite, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
Thank you, sir, for being with us.
When we come back, the coronavirus, anything to worry about?
We'll get a quick update on that and more as we continue.
All right, 25 now until the top of the hour, 800-941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
All right, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this.
We're going to get to your calls here in a second.
I know a lot has been said.
I've talked to a lot of people, and there's a lot of worry and concern about this coronavirus in China.
Now, it seems to me, and I'm just being honest here, and Dr. Mark Siegel over at Fox, he was sounding the alarm over China's, quote, reckless, scary response to the coronavirus.
And we know that China was underreporting and purposely minimizing the real impact of what was going on there.
But eventually, uh-oh, yeah, yeah, we have to close Disney and movie theaters, and everybody's running around with masks all over their face.
We have our friend of the program, Dr. Josh Umber, Atlas MD out of Wichita, Dr. Lee Gross, president for Docs for Patient Care Foundation.
And I just wanted to get their take on this because we have the health secretary, Azar, you know, in the Center for Disease Control and director of National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease.
And every American agency is doing their thing.
But I just, I always worry that, you know, by the time we find out, it's too late.
Welcome back, guys.
Dr. Umber, what do you think?
Thanks for having us and always happy to chat.
You know, I think it's a serious concern, especially when it starts off with some misinformation.
But thankfully, I think the response has been appropriate.
We're control cases in the U.S. are directly related to travel to the affected provinces in China.
So that's more reassuring.
Relative to influenza, which is, you know, it's a bad year for that and has affected tens of thousands of lives.
You know, I think we can have a measured approach.
Okay.
What is your take, Dr. Gross?
So we have about 4,500 confirmed cases in China right now, and 1,700 of those cases are new within the last 24 hours.
So those are just the ones that we know about.
The concern is we've already had 106 deaths in China.
With such a small number of cases, with that many deaths, the concern is that it's a pretty aggressive disease.
So fortunately, we only have five here in the United States.
But what China has done, at least what they've told us they've done, is they've quarantined 50 million people.
That is the equivalent of about one-sixth of the American population.
Can you imagine if we tried to quarantine 50 million people here in the United States, that would not go over.
So the best course of action really is for us to work with China and for them to be open and honest at sharing information with our people.
All right, we have an incubation rate that is, in other words, you can be, while it's incubating in your body, apparently you're infectious.
Is that correct?
It is correct.
So that incubation period can be anywhere from 2 to 14 days.
The question is whether or not somebody can be contagious during a period where they're asymptomatic.
So they can fly over to the United States, have no symptoms on the plane, but then develop the symptoms once they're here.
The question is, were they contagious while they were on that plane and when they were traveling?
And if that's the case, then how do we track all of those contacts?
So that's really going to be real.
Contact tracing, it doesn't appear that it's even possible at this point in China, does it, Dr. Umber?
I think in China, with the population density they have, that would get much harder to accurately track that, especially as people start to hit the public places, the hospitals and doctors' offices in mass.
So you have this large crowding effect.
But maybe not everyone was registered when they went there.
That are waiting in line.
So, yeah, tracking that does start to get pretty difficult.
And, you know, we don't know if it's affecting the sick or those prone with respiratory illnesses like lung cancer, asthma, or COPD more so than the average healthy population.
Well, I'm not sure.
But I started with Dr. Umber to put it in perspective.
You know, we, you know, influenza, the annual flu season, we've already seen 15 million cases and 8,000 deaths from it here in the United States, including 54 children.
So when we're talking about, you know, 100 cases compared to what we already see with the flu season, you know, it's certainly not time to panic yet, though definitely time to pay attention and certainly time for the Chinese government to be open and honest with the problem that's going on there.
Well, I think that's first and foremost, but let's assume for a few minutes that they're never going to do that, that they're going to be China and they're going to close themselves off and probably too prideful and not want to seek the world's help.
Do you feel confident we have the means and ability in this country to stop any type of pandemic from coming out?
What is that?
I guess we have a mortality rate of what, 5% with this virus, maybe a little higher?
Yeah, I certainly think we have excellent people from the CDC.
I mean, you mentioned you had Dr. Fauci on your show yesterday.
He is a genius in issues around this.
It looks like we're about three months out from potentially having a phase one vaccine trial and another three months out for a phase two vaccine trial.
So there's some promise there.
We're looking at 20 different airports where we're doing advanced screening.
But again, the question is on the asymptomatic people.
But clearly, outbreaks, national outbreaks are going to happen mostly spreading with your symptomatic people.
So I think what we're doing from the CDC and from the health and human services perspective is a great start.
And I want to thank you both.
Go ahead.
Last word, Dr. Umber.
Oh, just put in perspective, too, there's something called the reproductive value.
How contagious is an illness, and we can grade that.
The smallpox or measles has a reproductive value of 16, 17.
The common cold has a value of 6, which means you'll infect 6 other people with your common cold virus.
And influenza and this coronavirus are in the range of 2 to 3.
So I think as long as we put that in perspective, China population density that they're going to spread more per person because they're just closer.
But with the land mass and distribution we have, we can spread that out and decrease the risk to others in a more effective manner to some degree.
All right.
Appreciate your insight, both of you.
800-941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
Still can't get over.
You know, we've known what, why have I been highlighting what Strzok and Page talked about when they said, oh, you know, those smelly Walmart chopper Trump supporters, I can smell them from here.
Why was the term irredeemable, deplorable, so despicable?
Why was Obama suggesting, oh, those people in Pennsylvania are bitter Americans clinging to their God, their constitutional rights, their Bibles and religion?
Because it's just such a contempt that they have for we, the people.
Let me go back to now Don Lemon, fake news, CNN.
I met Don Lemon a couple of times.
I don't have a problem with Don Lemon.
He wants to be liberal.
Let him be liberal.
But listen, because it's revealing.
What have I said?
It's all of this establishment, all of the swamp creatures, they seem to care more about what the other swamp creatures think of them.
That's why I don't like them, nor do I want their approval ever.
That's why I never show up at their stupid events.
I go to one event a year for a friend, media party.
Then I get confronted by CNN, Jeff Zucker stenographers, Humpty Dumpty and Oliver somebody that thinks that I know who this person is.
Just total stalkers.
You know, if you focused on your own low-rated shows, maybe you'd do better.
But I think it's revealing in as much as what do they think of we, the people.
Listen.
Of course.
He's just trying to demean her, and obviously it's false.
And look, he also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on a map if you had the letter U and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it.
He knows that this is an administration defined by ignorance of the world.
And so that's partly him playing to their base and playing the audience.
You know, the credulous boomer rube demo that backs Donald Trump.
That Donald Trump's a smart one.
And they're all elitists for them.
Yeah, it is with that violence in your maps and your spelling.
Even though my path and you're reading them.
Yeah, you're reading, you know, your geography, knowing other countries, sipping your latte.
All those lines on the map.
Only the Melitas know where Ukraine is.
Sorry, I apologize.
Oh, my God.
But you know what?
It was Rick's fault.
I blame Rick.
But in all honesty, why not?
Sorry, hold on.
Wait, wait.
Can I tell you a second?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, it's good.
Sorry.
That was a good one.
I needed that.
This is seeing it.
He has given oxygen to racists.
So we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right.
And we have to start doing something about them.
There is no travel ban on them.
There is no ban on, you know, they had the Muslim ban.
There is no white guy ban.
So what do we do about that?
How about answering that question?
What do, Don Lemon?
What do we do about that?
The few of Americans that may not take your liberal point of view.
And I don't care that you're a liberal.
You want to be a liberal.
Your whole network is liberal.
Your whole network hates Fox.
Keep doing it because all you keep doing is making me number one and making Fox number one.
Because nobody can stand to watch this because you're alienating an entire group of people that just have a philosophical difference than you do.
If you want to know what elitism is, that's it.
You want to know what swampy is?
That's it.
You know what condescension is?
That's it.
I went back, I watched, I watched over Christmas.
I don't know, maybe I'm getting older.
These movies are making me emotional as I get older, Linda.
And I'm watching It's a Wonderful Life.
And poor George Bailey finally is about to leave and get the heck out of that, you know, the town and the Bailey building alone.
And then he goes to Mr. Potter, the richest man in town.
You know, I know you lent so-and-so that money.
He didn't, I know for a fact that the bank that he ran denied this personal.
They ought to wait until they get a wait, he said, George Bailey.
Wait for what?
You know, because those people, that riffraff, if you will, they do most of the working and bleeding and dying for this country.
Don't they deserve to work hard and have a decent house and a safe neighborhood with a nice car?
Not all that's that I'm adding here, but and a bath for their kids and a place to go and a nice home of their own.
Well, to him, they're nothing but rabble and nothing but whatever.
And then poor George Bailey, well, he had to stay.
His conscience, he couldn't leave because if he left, Potter would run the whole town.
He stayed for Potter.
The whole point of it's a wonderful life.
Well, what would life be like if I never lived?
And then Clarence gets his wings.
By the way, you think that's true about it?
I never heard this thing about, well, a bell rings, an angel gets his wings.
Did you ever hear that?
I never heard that before.
Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings.
Do you believe expression?
Sure.
I know.
Sure.
You actually believe that?
I mean, I don't know if, I mean, listen, I don't know this movie, but I mean, I believe there's angels all around us.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't tell me you did not watch It's a Wonderful Life.
Please don't even say that.
That's what I just said to you when you were in the middle of your dance ride.
You honestly never watched It's a Wonderful Life.
So this Christmas, when I was at my brother's house, they had it on.
Lauren had it on.
And I was like, oh my gosh, this movie.
Yeah.
I said, Sean keeps talking about this at work.
And she was like, dude, you've never seen this movie?
I'm like, no.
Okay, before this week is out, you got to promise me you'll watch it so we can talk about it on air by Friday.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Let's get to our first time.
We'll do that on the free time.
All right.
Do you think I have free time?
You find free time.
How do you find free time?
But did you walk uphill both ways in the snow to school?
We could do this all day long.
That's what my kids think.
You know, every time I start talking about, well, I, you know, I'm working all these years and then dishwasher and paper, but they're like, oh, shut, dad, shut up.
And it's like the body language.
They just shut down.
They don't do it.
They don't want to hear it.
They don't care.
Your grandfather was a prison guard.
Your father'd waited tables on weekends.
You know, he grew up poor.
My mother grew up poor.
My grandparents had nothing.
You think they look at me like I have 500 heads on top of me.
Why?
It's so frustrating.
You should be used to that.
I do that to you every day.
Well, I hate to say it, but I was just like them when I was their age, being, you know, rolling my eyes about my father talking about he didn't have a penny when he grew up.
I'm like, yeah, right.
All right, Diet.
Can I leave now?
Why are we all like that as kids?
We're so stupid.
So I'll end on this notebook.
Wait, wait, wait.
And then we lose our parents.
And then we lose our parents.
We're like being the greatest people ever.
This is negative town.
Let me just tell you something my grandmother used to say to me, and God rest her soul, now I really appreciate it.
She would say to me almost every day, you know, Linda, youth is really wasted on the young.
And she's right.
You know what my grandfather said?
He had a saying too.
He used to say, well, he had a tattoo, a Navy tattoo.
I'd be grandpa.
And I just did it to annoy him.
I don't know why I enjoyed annoying my grandfather, but I did.
Grandpa, I'm going to get a tattoo just like you when I get older.
Ah, you're the damn fool you are.
You're a damn fool if you do that.
God, he gets so ticked off.
But he always said, you can't put an older person's head on a younger person's shoulder.
I guess that's the Winston Churchill adage: if you're 20 and not a liberal, you don't have a heart.
If you're 40 and not a conservative, you do not have a brain.
Period.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for tonight.
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Alan Dershowitz, he was spectacular yesterday.
Senator Ted Cruz, Mark Meadows, Doug Collins, Jim Jordan, Louis Gomert, Dan Bongino, Geraldo, and the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin V.B. Netanyahu.
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