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Yesterday the Democrats voted to potentially nullify the votes of 63 million Americans disgracing themselves and bringing shame upon the House of Representatives.
They've been plotting to overthrow the election since the moment I won.
But the people here that are highly sophisticated know long before I won.
19 minutes after I took the oath of office, the horrible newspaper, fake, fake, fake, Washington Post.
Declared the campaign to impeach President Trump has just begun.
At least they gave us 19 minutes.
Yesterday's vote by the Radical Democrats is an attack on democracy itself.
But I'll tell you, the Republicans are really strong.
The strongest I've ever seen them, the most unified I've ever seen.
The American people are fed up with Democrat lies, hoaxes, and extremism.
The Democrats' outrageous conduct has created an angry majority that will vote many do nothing Democrats out of office in 2020.
Make no mistake.
They are coming after the Republican Party and me.
Because I'm fighting for you.
They don't like it.
This is different.
They've never had anything like this.
Well, they've never had an election like 2016 either, have they?
They've never had.
They've never quite figured it out.
And they know they can't win.
So let's try and impeach them.
How about that crazy representative Al Green, Right?
You know?
We gotta impeach him because we can't beat him.
I don't think so, right?
I don't think so.
Al Green, he's another beauty.
He's another beauty.
A great rally on Friday.
That was in the uh great state of Mississippi, 800-941 Sean Tollfree telephone number.
You know, I love what the president's saying, especially on Ukraine, and and we got into this in the last hour.
Read the transcript.
What do you know?
What do we know?
We know Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections.
We know they did it to benefit Hillary.
We know a court decision confirms such in Ukraine.
We know Ukraine leaders offering us all the evidence we want.
We know Politico wrote about it January 11th, 2017, and that they were effective.
It was like, you know, election interference doesn't matter if you're buying a dirty Russian dossier and leaking it before the election, and then you use it as the basis of Pfizer warrants to spy on the Trump campaign transition and presidency.
That's fine.
In the world of insane liberal Democrats and the mob in the media.
But you know, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden.
Uh no, but I you're not getting the billion dollars.
You're not I you got six hours.
You just you know fire him, you get the billion.
You don't fire him, you don't get the billion.
Quid pro quo Joe.
Um, and I can only imagine what would happen to any anybody with the last name Trump.
If they give an interview, what experience do you have in Ukraine?
None.
Oil, none.
Gas, none.
Energy, none.
Wow.
What experience do you have?
I was on uh Amtrak board once.
What does that have to do with anything?
Same with China.
No experience.
Ten days after flying there with Daddy, one billion Bank of China let it later becomes a billion five.
I haven't gotten a penny from China, but then his lawyer says, Yeah, but he has all this equity that he just hasn't cashed in yet, which he will do.
And millions of dollars for no experience.
The second most powerful guy, and what is the media say?
No evidence that he did anything wrong.
None whatsoever.
He's on tape bragging about a shakedown and literally using a billion taxpayer dollars to do it to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor.
We now know was investigating his kid.
Oh no, no, no evidence of wrongdoing, none whatsoever.
Like, oh, we're living in a crazy world.
Anyway, Don Jr. is with us.
He's uh releasing his new book today.
It's called Triggered.
Well, that's the perfect title, right?
How the left thrives on hate and wants to silence us.
Um he has been one of the strongest people out there defending his father day in and day out.
He does it fearlessly.
Um, not loved particularly by the left.
Uh Don Jr., how are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
Yourself, Sean.
I'm good.
You know what I did like about the opening of the book, and I just got my copy over the weekend.
You dedicated the book to the smelly Walmart people, irredeemable deplorables, uh, those that cling to their gods, their guns, their Bibles, and religion, those of us that are bitter Americans, as Obama said, but you dedicated the book to the deplorables.
Explain.
Yes.
Uh listen, I think they deserve it.
Uh, you know, throughout all of the crap, all of the travails that we've gone through, through, you know, the Mueller hoax, the impeachment, not just the one, you know, that they're talking about now, but when it started on November 9th, 2016.
You know, those are the people that not once did they waver.
Not once did they buy into it, not once did they doubt my father.
Uh, you know, they all recognize he's the last guy in the world that needed this job, but he's doing it and he's doing it well despite unprecedented incoming, Sean.
And so, you know, honestly, it was those people uh who he did it for, uh, who he's running for.
It's those people who, you know, motivates me to go out there and fight.
You know, those people and my kids uh and their future.
Uh, you know, that's my motivation for doing all these things.
So I figured if uh if someone deserves the dedication, uh it is them because they've been there.
I believe they will continue to be there.
Uh, if they know what's good for them in their future, they will continue to be there, but I think they get that, uh, you know, tongue-in-cheek aside.
Uh you know, I gotta tell you anecdotally.
I was I was in Chicago and Detroit over the weekend giving speeches and and going to some of my radio affiliates and meeting a lot of people.
I will tell you that the anger is palpable, and I can see it.
We're now 364 days away from I think the tipping point election in terms of uh the the future of this country.
There's such a stark difference in terms of what they would do and how they would I I mean the new Green Deal alone.
Elizabeth Warren's $52 trillion 10-year Medicare for all program.
We only take in four trillion a year, Doc.
Five trillion a year, it's basically 90% of U.S. government revenue.
No, it's more in like it's more.
We wouldn't take in that with 52 trillion in 10 years.
That's the problem.
And then 94 trillion on the new Green Deal.
It's uh it's nuts, Sean.
There's no rhyme or reason to it, but you're right.
I mean, the left is motivated by hatred.
Not logic, not facts, because facts, that's like leftist kryptonite, right?
They don't work.
Uh, but hatred's a big motivator.
So what we need to do is make sure that our guys turn out that reasonable people in the middle see what's going on, that they recognize that whether it's the Muller hoax, whether it's the new impeachment hoax, uh, you know, it's like what they tried to do to me with Moeller.
You know, I take an unsolicited phone call, and I spend 30 hours, millions of dollars, 30 hours testifying in front of Congress.
Hillary Clinton literally pays foreign agents to go amass and compile a fake news down there, gives it to the FBI, who then leak it to the media, who then use that story as a justification to start an investigation of a sitting president to try to nullify the results of the 2016 election in a coup.
That's no problem.
But but literally taking an unsolicited phone call is.
I mean, that is the sickness.
That isn't the hypocrisy that we were up against, Sean.
I mean, I cover this really extensively in the book, and it's the you know, the sort of the first time I've been able to uh speak about it in long form.
But people have to recognize that is the lunacy uh over the left.
And in places like that, if you're in Chicago or some of these places, obviously leftist strongholds, but you know, even in reasonable middle America, Sean, where there is a strong, you know, Democrat presence, or there has been, at least historically, you know, the blue-collar Democrat towns and and union workers.
I asked those guys because the history and the tradition of voting that way is important.
I go, you know, what would your grandfather think about?
You know, you got into this, your grandfather voted Democrat, your father voted Democrat.
What would your grandfather or father think about two days?
Two days Democrats.
I'm gonna look at you know what the greatest example though.
You're right.
These people have lost their minds, Sean.
The greatest example of how appropriate the title of this book is triggered, by the way, it's on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, now in bookstores everywhere, uh, just out today.
You know what the amazing thing, Don is, though, is look at what they did to 16-year-old kid Nicholas Sammant.
Now, in the end, because he's not a public figure like us, they they basically can say anything they want about people like you and me, and we have no recourse.
I mean, libel laws are such.
I actually use in the book.
You know, if they are willing to destroy a 15-year-old kid's life, he did nothing.
He did nothing wrong.
Everyone acknowledges that now.
That didn't stop them from hey, he was a white southern male who happens to be Christian and wearing a MAGA hat.
That was like the holy grail of leftists, like we got to cancel this guy.
This guy can't have an opinion, he can't have a voice.
He must be every ist, you know, in the book, uh, and we're gonna destroy him.
But think about that.
If the left and the mainstream media would destroy willingly, knowingly, a 15-year-old kid's life, his future, based on no evidence, no fact, no nothing.
Who who won't they just do it?
It was just the listen, I don't think I don't think you or I are capable of handling it as well as that 16-year-old kid did.
First, he has to go through the black Hebrew Israelites, you know, using racial comments and and taunting these young kids.
Then this narrative goes out.
Then you have the the Nathan Phillips, the Native American activists, uh unfortunately, they they got a 10-second snippet, and they built this whole narrative that none of which was true, because it was Nathan Phillips that went up to and got right in the face of Nicholas Samman banging that drum.
And why?
Because he had a MAGA hat on, Don.
A MAGA hat.
Well, because it was it was every, you know, he had a combat vet, Native American.
Oh, this guy's perfect.
You know, they didn't bother to check that he's not.
Uh, you know, my minor details, because again, it was too good for it to be true.
It was, oh, we have to run with it.
But again, if they could destroy that kid's life, who won't they destroy if you don't buy in entirely to their nonsense?
Uh look at what they did.
Well, you know, just look at Kavanaugh.
I mean, a guy that, you know, the only thing I'd heard about Kavanaugh before that I'd seen pictures of him in soup kitchens every weekend for the last 10 years, you know, serving food to people and and the less fortunate.
You know, they would take him, destroy his career, but more importantly, destroy his children, destroy his family, destroy anything, anything that stands in the way because they believe that he'd be a threat to their leftist values.
I mean, that's how these people fight, Sean.
You know, Trump's thinking.
But there's two aspects who's actually fought back against this stuff, and it's why we're actually finally winning and hopefully creating a new class of Republicans who have the guts to actually stand up with for what they believe it, not just pretend they did do in stump speech and then turn the other cheek and get steamrolled, uh, like we've done for the last fifty years.
Uh, you know, I think their hatred uh i is bringing out uh, you know, those in the Republican Party and creating stars in the Republican Party because they're actually willing to fight back against that hatred.
Uh, you know, that's an important thing because if we just take this lightly, if we just sit back, oh, it's not a big it's over, Sean.
Uh I don't think that's an overstatement either, and I don't think it's hyperbole.
Uh that there's that much at stake.
Um and I just mentioned two things.
I mean, you add a wealth tax and Medicare for all fifty-two trillion and the new Green Deal and eliminating the lifeblood of our economy, oil and gas and the combustion engine, and everything's free.
It is it is it is so beyond unsustainable and so spectacularly dangerous.
It is it's remarkable that the mob and the media, they don't they have no there's no critical analysis ever.
Um, one thing in the book that I didn't know analysis only goes one way, Sean.
The real you know, Elizabeth Warren, fifty-two trillion dollars over ten years, the new plan.
But think about that.
She goes, it won't raise any penny to the middle class.
She goes, we're gonna take it all from billionaires.
Well, there's six hundred billionaires.
Okay, six hundred in America.
If you took take one billion from each of them, because you know, a couple of them were three or four billion, maybe they can take one.
You know, some may only be worth a billion, so you'd probably take all of their money, but take a billion dollars from each of them.
It it covers one percent of her plan.
So if you cover one percent of the plan by taking one billion dollars from every billionaire in America, it doesn't exactly seem fair, but uh, you know, the minor details if you're a leftist, uh how do you pay for the other ninety-nine percent of the plan?
You destroy the economy, you create debt and an interest load that is not sustainable for the future.
These leftists are playing with our children's futures, their livelihoods, our grandchildren's futures and their livelihoods by making unrealistic promises because it's really easy to be Santa Claus and pretend that everything's free and everything will pay for itself.
Green New Deal, 93 trillion.
It's gonna pay for itself.
How?
That's you can't ask that question.
That's terrible.
There's no one that can justify these things.
But because the hundred and fifty trillion of the leftist party.
In ten years.
I got to take a break, though.
Stay there.
Uh Donald Trump Jr. with us.
He's just released right now, um, triggered how the left thrives on hate and wants to silence us.
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Donald Trump Jr. with us, just releasing his first interview.
Uh his brand new book, it's called Triggered How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us.
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Well, uh there was one anecdote that I really enjoyed you telling in the book, which is about your dad.
And it's pretty funny that, you know, as you said, the tweeter in chief, the so-called Shakespeare of 140 characters, told you that you're getting a little bit too hot on your social media accounts.
And I kind of chuckled when I heard that.
Um, because uh yeah, I think your dad gets a little hot on there also.
Yeah, listen, I think we found out some things are genetic and some things you can't exactly sign off.
But uh that that was the one that was the one phone call I got.
John, it's like uh, you know, John, I think you know, you're getting a little aggressive on there.
Like, wait a minute.
Like you?
Like, you know, I I will listen to the pot kettle.
I'll take your advice on business, on life, on just about anything.
This is the one place where you may not have uh you may not be able to get me on this one.
So uh but it was pretty funny, and it was you know I'm gonna go.
So here's my observation the way we are in the way we joke.
I think you are more most like your dad of all the kids.
And I think Eric is obvious look, all of you guys are brilliant, you're all successful in your own right.
I've known you all for many years, because I remember years and years and years ago, long before your dad ever thought about really running for president.
If I do an interview with your dad or I saw him at at Trump Tower, he'd always walk me over to say hi to you, walk me over to say hi to Ivanka and Eric, and you know, so I got to know you guys over years, but in terms of fighting, battling, being combative, I'd say you're you are as close to him as anybody else.
Do you agree with that assessment?
I I think so, and it's sort of funny.
I think if you would have asked, even you know, whether it was in business or otherwise, you know, I I would have probably been the one that they would not have said that about.
It was uh once we got into politics, once you sort of, you know, back us in the corner and try to attack us uh viciously for years, uh, you know, that's when we realize that hey, we we sort of fight the same way, but we both have that sort of, you know, we're willing to fight back.
We don't mind uh, you know, battle.
We we we will go uh we will go at it and we will go at it hard, uh, you know, defending ourselves, defending our family, defending our values.
Uh, and and so you know, it took us sort of 41 years to realize that we were probably a lot more like each other and a lot closer that way than we would have ever otherwise thought, frankly.
And uh it it took the hateful uh Democrats uh to bring that out of me.
So I I appreciate that from them.
You know, I it was an interesting piece.
I don't know if you ever, I don't know if you know Willie Brown.
I've known Willie Brown for years, uh former San Francisco mayor.
Um I don't did he ever uh what was his highest position?
I don't even remember.
But anyway, Willie Brown, just uh he is a the fun-loving guy, smart as hell.
And he wrote uh uh an article about this impeachment madness of the Democrats, and he goes on to say, um, yeah, if your goal was to damage the president by formalizing the impeachment inquiry, okay, mission unaccomplished for House Democrats.
If anything, the vote solidified the president's hold on power, zero GOP defections.
Maybe one guy in the Senate will be, I guess Mint Romney points out, and he said the Democrats, it gives the people little reason to be glued to their screens because it's anticlimatic.
And the bottom line is uh that the American people see this for what it is.
They'll spend the next number of months acting out a pretend cliffhanger to which everyone knows the script and the ending.
No plot twists in sights.
And uh yeah, you you know, maybe you think this is good for re-election, but he said, come next year, Trump will have an impeachment victory and quite possibly a solid economy.
The Democrats will have, and he says, What?
And that's a great question, because he's rightly saying Democrats have done nothing except hate your father and those of us that like him.
And and he's not exactly a conservative.
So uh you know he I think he's a hundred percent right.
The reality is this look at Nancy Pelosi's desk.
She's sitting there with USMCA for nine months.
She won't vote on it.
She won't bring it to the people because she's focused on this.
You know, by the way, she's pretending you can't, you know, walk into gum.
I mean, this is something that the Democrats would all say, you know, overwhelmingly vote in favor of.
You could pass it in about five minutes by actually putting it on her desk.
That would renegotiate.
That has renegotiated NAFTA, which everyone said you could not do.
My father did it.
He just needs the House to vote on it and it's done.
Okay.
But she won't do that.
She won't, doesn't want to create jobs for more Americans, obviously.
Doesn't want to give Trump even a monicum of a win, but instead they'll they'll waste time focusing on this on the opinions of those who would listen to a call of a transcript that's already been released, Sean.
I mean, that's the insanity of this.
He's like, there is no whistleblower because here's the transcript.
Here, here's what it is.
And so to do this, you know, all it's all smoke in mirrors, where they let Adam Schiff be judge, jury, and executioner.
Not exactly the way it works in the American system, but they're trying to change the rules so that they can pre-vet and pre-screen candidates who were then be the only people who will be allowed to testify in public on this to try to have some sort of optical win.
This is insanity.
This is kangaroo court stuff.
This is Soviet-era tactics.
Uh, you know, this is the stuff I write about in the book about, you know, my mom escaping communism in those systems, and you know, my grandfather and grandmother being from there, and me growing up there, uh, seeing that being pulled out of a line because I was wearing a jean jacket with like the stars and stripes on it.
Like this is that kind of mentality.
Um, and it's being pushed out there by the quote unquote, you know, party of tolerance.
Uh they're not so tolerant when you don't agree with them.
Uh they're far from it.
Frankly, there's nothing less tolerant than a leftist who's preaching tolerance.
Uh, and we've seen all of that.
So the whole thing is crazy.
And the fact that the media is totally complicit in it, Sean.
You know, democracy dies in darkness, except for when we get what we want.
Uh, you know, they won't question it.
They don't want to know about what's going on.
They have no interest in hearing anything other than what Adam Schiff is willing to leak them.
They won't question the process or say, is this even remotely fair that the president can't ask questions, they can't have his council president, he can't have any.
I mean, this is Gestapo tactics used against the duly elected president of the United States to try to overturn an election because they didn't like the results, and it's disgusting.
And if it doesn't tick off, even your favorite leftist, even people who are, you know, pretty democrat, they should be really upset with this process.
Because if it can happen here, it can happen to their guy one day.
And this shouldn't be going on in the United States of America.
Not now and not ever.
The best part of Willie Brown being right is yeah, okay, Trump will have the impeachment victory.
You know, I I think the best look, the your your dad has a lot to run on.
He beat the caliphate in Syria, beat them because he took off the rules of engagement, the handcuffs that the military had under Biden Obama, but then he takes out Baghdadi, his successor, his spokesperson, and three others.
You mean the You mean the austere religious scholar, Sean?
Yeah, the austere religious scholar himself.
Yes, that guy.
And then you look at every economic measure.
More importantly, I remember, you know, your dad was talking about what have you got to lose to minorities in America and record low on Friday, another record low unemployment rate for African Americans.
Same with Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace.
It is he's got, yes, we're better off than we were four years ago.
Yes, I made promises about cutting taxes, ending bureaucracy, building a wall, uh, originalist justices, new trade deals, uh, and and not endless wars, and we're gonna fight him, we're gonna beat the crap out of him.
And he did.
So then the only other thing, there was an article last week.
Well, if you take out Trumpism, Trump would win by a landside.
And like, well, if you take out Trumpism, then you're you're basically telling him not to be who he is, which got the success.
If you take out Trumpism, you wouldn't have gotten anything because you wouldn't get anything done because you wouldn't be willing to fight back.
That's the problem.
That's the difference between Trump and so many, you know, in the Republican Party for the last few decades, you know, they turn the other cheek and they talk great about their principles, but when they actually are questioned, when they're pushed, you know, by these leftists, they don't actually stand up and fight for them.
And that's the difference.
You need some of that uh fight.
And I get that not everyone loves it all the time, but if you weren't fighting, you wouldn't get anything done because that's how the other side plays, just like they're willing to destroy the wheel.
But don't you agree with us they're willing to you need to figure.
Everybody wants to be liked.
I can tell you people in the industry I work in, radio and TV.
One of the things I'm most proud of, 24 years now of Fox, 31 years on the radio.
I've never ever been to a White House correspondence center.
I'm gonna tell you why.
Because I don't like them and they don't like me.
But there are so many people that want to be a part of of that little bubble club that is known as DC, the swamp, the sewer, uh social circles in New York.
Uh I'm perfectly comfortable not being invited to anything.
Sean, that's like Mitt Romney, okay?
He can be a conservative and this, but he would right now he would rather be loved by the press, the same press that called him a misogynist and a racist and a terrible, the same press that destroyed his campaign.
He would rather be loved by them than actually stand for what he believes.
And frankly, what his constituents over in Utah stand for and believe in, because they've all spoken to me about it.
He would rather he thinks that they actually like him.
They don't like him.
They're just using him as a tool.
How does he first if he ever ran again, which he has no chance for, but if he ever ran again, they destroy him again in a second.
And that's the difference between someone who's strong and someone who's weak.
Let me ask you, you get personal in the book, which I found interesting.
Some stuff I knew, but not that I knew any of you kids ever talked about.
You talk about how when your mom and dad got divorced, the relationship with you, uh Eric Ivanka got really stronger, and you talk about that you're different people and you've always gotten along very well.
Um what is what was it like to grow up?
I mean, you you said wealth, opulence, um unprecedented.
You kind of talk in the book is you kind of wanted to reject that part of that life.
Yeah, listen, I know I I think there was aspects of it that I, you know, I I I didn't love and didn't like.
I mean, obviously, you know, I understood some of the experience were afforded me because of it.
And you know, it uh, you know, I I got killed on your show last week uh in in the press for you know, not caveating that I too am the son of a rich guy when I was, you know, hitting Hunter Biden.
Now I did the week before on the show, and there's only so much time you can do.
Um but the reality is I've always had a sort of a uh a comfort zone uh with more regular Americans.
It's you know, whether it's hunting, fishing, competitive shooting, my hobbies always bring me to there.
It's sort of that's that's where I am.
I was never never was or never wanted to be sort of a fixture on the New York City rubber chicken uh you know, black tie dinner circuit.
It wasn't really my thing.
And uh I don't think it's your thing.
By the way, you want to guarantee Hannity's not going to an event, say it's black tie, I'm not going.
Exactly.
And so I've sort of been that way.
And so, you know, again, while I recognize I'm the son of a rich gun from New York City, uh, you know, I think my comfort zone has always been, you know, in Middle America.
It's where I spend my time, it's where I spend a lot of my vacations, it's where most of my friends are.
Uh, you know, and so uh it it's it's sort of an interesting dichotomy, and I think it, you know, how i it's been sort of helpful as it relates to politics because you know uh uh you you can actually relate to real people as opposed to just pretending to relate to them but not having a fundamental understanding.
And so, you know, again, one of the topics cover in the book because it is different.
You know, again, and you you obviously always get canceled, you're the son of Donald Trump, how can you not?
I d I do know that.
I I recognize that uh, you know, I am who I am and where I am in in large part because of my father and all of that, but uh there there are distinctions and there's reasoning beyond that.
And so, you know, it was cool to be able to kind of cover that in long form uh in the book because it's not something you can usually get out to easily.
So what was the expectation of your dad?
Because as I understand it, you were sitting in coach in the in the luggage department, and he'd be in first class, or you you weren't flying around in his private jet.
She'd be in first with being coached and that was what it was.
You know, i I think it was important, you know, hard working dad and you know, Eastern European mother who escaped communism and you know, grandparents from there that were blue-collar people that you know, bringing us up.
I mean, one of the big things they instilled in us that was probably lost on you know a lot of our peers growing up was you know, the really the value of a dollar, having a work ethic.
You know, my father, we talk about it a lot in the book, but you know, he put Eric and I on job sites, on construction sites.
We talk about we're the only you know, probably sons of billionaires who can drive a D 10 caterpillar and run chainsaws, because that's what we were doing in our summer jobs.
Uh it wasn't, you know, congratulations.
Here's your gilded office.
Uh, you know, we we got some of that now, but you know, we did everything up until that point.
And we we started off at the lowest rungs of the company uh and built up, and I man, I'm I'm glad for it.
Uh i it's a big part of my life.
It's the way I want to make sure my kids are brought up.
Uh, and not to say that they don't have blessings and good fortune and won't be spoiled in their own rights.
We just want to make sure you kind of do it in the right way, uh, and that they get what life is all about and it's you know, and and that they they go through it the hard way and don't expect everything to be handed to them.
And honestly, uh as part of our culture, and frankly, the book talks, you know, as much about culture as it does about politics.
Uh, you know, in in a world where you know everyone gets a participation trophy and everyone wins no matter what, even if they don't win, it's it it's a little bit scary, and it's getting harder and Harder to do, but it's it's a value.
Uh that was instilled enough at a very young age, and I want to make sure to try to do the same for my kids.
Uh, one of the things that I like that you took on in the book is like Bill Crystal and the establishment that failed.
Um, you know, you read last week that there might be a group of establishment Republicans working with Democrats to field a third party candidate to try and trip up Trump and some of the closer purple states just to ensure your dad loses.
And, you know, I'm I say this about Romney.
Romney wanted tax cuts.
He wanted to end uh burdensome bureaucracy.
He talked about securing our border.
He talked about originals on the Supreme Court.
Um, he talked about all the things that your dad is doing.
So it's just stylistic differences.
All right, Romney was nice and he lost.
They pounded him, they pummeled him.
Your dad gets pummeled, but he fights back.
And fighting back, I I would argue the American people are now accustomed to his his uh his style.
Quick uh I got 30 seconds in the second.
They see they see the results.
I mean, what again?
There's not an economic metric where we are not better off today than we were three years ago.
And that didn't just magically happen.
That's because of politics.
That's because he's willing to fight to get those things done.
Uh, and and that shouldn't be lost on people.
Stay there.
I gotta take a break.
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Uh his new book out today.
We just threw it up on Hannity.com, it's on Amazon.com and now in bookstores across the country as of today, triggered how the left thrives on hate, wants to silence us.
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Let me ask you about the power of the pardon, which is absolute for a president.
One night I know you were watching my show, and I had the mother of this young sailor who is spending a year in jail because he took six pictures for his own use in a submarine, and you were comparing it.
Would that be something early on you would consider?
I'm actually looking at a Christian saucier.
I think it's very unfair in light of what's happened with other people.
I think it's very the story of Clint Lorance, another guy got 30 years, he was doing his job protecting his team in Afghanistan.
We were looking at a few of them.
And by the way, uh if another event didn't happen, I would look at him.
But how can you have somebody else get away with such a tremendous amount?
And then this person who takes a picture of his desk on an old submachine.
Look, if China or Russia wanted information on that submarine, they've had it for many years.
That I can tell.
And the president did, in fact, step in in the case of Christian Saucy.
He already spent his year in jail, though, but you know what?
Justice is justice.
Uh, I have some really really good news.
It has been an issue.
We are followed on this program for a number of years.
That that interview with the president was in January of 2017, when the president just got into the White House.
And what is really good is that the president now has said action is imminent on the issue, quote, of war crimes cases of Army First Lieutenant Clint Lawrence.
We have told you his story over and over and over.
This guy takes over for a platoon.
Just weeks earlier, had been decimated By these suicide bombers on motorcycles.
They lost the platoon leader in that particular case and others injured.
And anyway, so he's now just on the job, and he sees, yeah, two guys on motorcycles, you know, going past the checkpoint, driving right at him, and he has to make a decision.
And he doesn't know.
I mean, I love how he second guess guys in the field.
We second guess their decision making.
It ended up, they took these, they ended up having to take these guys out.
And this guy gets, you know, what was it, 30 years in jail?
It's unbelievable.
We're gonna sit in the comfort of our air conditioned office and judge what these guys are doing in the spur of the moment.
And we have the rules of engagement issue.
It has resulted in a lot of these guys that are innocent that were doing their job and and fighting wars.
We asked them to fight, and then we put handcuffs on them and rules of engagement that make no sense.
That's how come Trump was able to beat the caliphate in Syria.
He took the rules of engagement, got rid of them.
This is war.
You fight wars to win wars.
If you're gonna send guys, you don't put handcuffs on them.
You know, because then other innocent Americans die.
Well, I have in my hand uh a document, the White House disapproval of the findings and sentence in the general court martial of the United States of America versus Army First Lieutenant Clint Allen Lorance.
And now the president is taking action.
He says it's imminent on on the case of Clint Lowrance, Army Green Beret Major Matt Goldstein, and you know about the case of Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher.
Now, my friend and colleague uh Pete Heggseth was able to break this story at Fox News.com with the imminent action on the cases, three former U.S. military service members accused of war crimes.
Our own Linda, what, two months ago or so went down to Leavenworth.
Leavenworth's full of these guys with similar stories.
They're fighting for their country.
They get accused of war crime.
You saw what happened in the case of Eddie Gallagher.
That goes to trial, and then one guy finally stands up and said, actually, I'm the one that did it.
I did it.
It wasn't Gallagher and all that he had gone through.
Now it doesn't have to be a pardon or a commutation.
It could be, you know, that would imply guilt that you've done something wrong and you need to be forgiven for it.
The president is commander-in-chief has a lot of latitude under the Uniform Code of Military Justice to dismiss a case or char uh change of sentence.
And the president actually says, I Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, pursuant to the power conferred upon me by Article 2, Section 2, the Constitution, as commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the United States, and under Article 22 and Article 60 of the Uniform Code for Military Justice rule rule for court martials 1107 under the laws of the United States,
hereby set aside vacate, disapprove, and dismiss with prejudice the charges, findings, and sentence imposed upon first lieutenant Clint Allen Lorrance, United States Army, for all offenses against the United States, which he, first Lieutenant Clint Allen Lawrence, has committed or may have committed, or is alleged to have committed or taken part of during the period between June 28th, the 2012 and July 4th, 2012.
And this is what thank God the president cares about our military.
This is a big deal.
Anyway, my colleague and friend Pete Hagseth uh and Don Brown is with us.
He's the attorney for Clint Lawrence.
He's been on the program before.
Our buddy Louis Gomert's with us.
He's been all over this issue for years fighting for these guys.
Uh a big big day.
Thank you all, all of you.
Linda, thank you too.
She went down to Leavenworth, met with Clint Lowrence, met with a lot of these guys.
Uh Pete, why don't you give us the news side of it first?
Well, listen, Sean, thank you for everything you've done.
For what members of Congress have done, other members of the media have done.
There's two.
Not many of them.
Let's be honest.
Not many.
Not many, but a few.
And folks like you who focused on this issue from the beginning.
This does not happen without the constant drumbeat and effort that folks like you have put into it.
Linda, others, I could not agree more.
But number two, it does not happen unless you have a commander-in-chief who's truly committed to putting America first.
And that means the war fighters that we put into harm's way.
This is truly Obama's rules of engagement versus Trump's rules of engagement.
And under Obama, you were guilty until presumed innocent.
Your hands were tied, and you were second guessed from the Pentagon at every turn.
Under President Trump, he's saying we trained you.
We sent you.
You made a tough call in the fog of war in a split second.
And we're going to give you that benefit of doubt.
And in doing so, we're going to boost the morale of everybody who would ever want to join the armed forces.
All you want is a commander that has your back.
The president's saying, before Veterans Day, I'm I'm going to look at this case.
I'm going to look at Clint Mac Goldfield.
I'm doing something about it.
I'm going to give the rank back.
they're trying to take um Eddie Gallagher's trident, his Navy field trident away from him.
All because the administrative state, the deep state of the DOD or or other rogue prosecutors uh want want their way and they want to undermine the commander in chief.
So this is great news that I I believe it's going to happen and I don't think it'll be a pardon for the reasons you said the commander in chief is in charge of what happened under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
You can dismiss these cases uh out of hand and I believe that what will happen and he'll have an amazing ripple effect for those who fight our wars.
Uh what a vote of confidence uh Louie Gomer God bless you and by the way well also Lauren who uh well left because she married Linda's brother and had a baby she went down with the 11 words she reps Justice Warriors um these guys were all over me constantly if I didn't do a segment in X number of months to get back on it uh to their credit um and uh Louie you've been working behind the scenes and I'm on this for a long time it was a great day.
It is.
And thank you for all you've done.
You've been fantastic as your staff.
Linda, of course, and Lauren when she was there.
And now she's continued to work on these issues.
But really, Sean, it's a bit of an emotional day when you know these guys.
And some of us went and met with Clint Rance at Leavenworth last month.
And, you know, thank God for Donald Trump.
I just can't say that.
These military companies.
guys were served up on the altar of political correctness when they were out there protecting their their brothers and sisters in arms and also you know they answered the call of their country.
This was no way to treat them and the best thing that could happen is what we're talking about.
You just set aside all of the findings so that's just it's as if there was no finding there was no court martial and that is a great day.
Yeah and Don Brown uh thanks for all you've been doing and I think you've been doing all this pro bono with a lot of other attorneys you know these guys can't afford the defense that they need.
Well we we we uh we we do it because we love our country we love these guys and uh and I want to shout out also to UAP the United American Patriots UAP.org they've helped us support a lot of lawyers in trying to fight these battles but I want to not only thank you all y'all you three guys and Linda I'm I'm on a phone call with four of the greatest living Americans and I got to pinch myself but I do so I want to thank President Trump for making this a special day.
You know Sean I mentioned this but the fourth of July President Trump was he may have been at his most brilliant with that great celebration you remember the day that the Blue Angels were streaking over the uh the Jefferson Memorial and Lee Greenwood singing proud to be an American the president issued a clearing call that day it was almost like John F. Kennedy's asked what you can do for your country.
He said, I want to encourage all young people to consider service in the United States military.
And, Sean, there's no greater calling, really, of service to country.
But, you know, we've got to make sure that the commander in chief has our back, these young men.
And by the brave and audacious move this president may be taking to sign this order to disallow, to disapprove the findings and sentencing of these court marshals, he's going to send a powerful message that if you shoot the enemy, we will no longer prosecute you.
We've got your backs.
You're not going to be sacrificed, as the Congressman said, on the altar of political correctnesses and that Obama's rules of engagement are gone forever.
This is a national security question.
Our guys have got to know that the commander in chief has their back this great president is about to do that we hope and we thank all of you for the work you've done in bringing this day about.
I got to tell you there's a Linda you need to take a bow put their mic on because I I'll just give the behind the scenes look I'm I'm literally gulping water every second of every day and like if I if I went any extended period of time not being on this topic hey hey you know she's all over me.
Um and not that I didn't want to do it it's just I you know this was is a real passion of yours which you know brought you and Lauren all the way down to Leavenworth.
I mean Lauren you know went down you know literally in one day because she just had her baby girl and Don and I were there together and you know Pete's been going down regularly and Louie's been going down with Duncan and you know this Justice for Warriors Caucus is no joke.
You know, this is the real deal.
These are people that serve in Congress, and all three of these men have all served our country.
So they know from where they speak.
You know, it's really hard to give up your free time and not get paid and take time out of your schedule to go down and care about somebody else's life as if it was your own.
But that's what these men have done because they gave their life to country, and they see the same thing happening to these poor guys.
And when I met Clint in prison, you know, and I s my first of all, he looks like he's 12.
And you're just staring at this, you know, baby face, and I'm thinking to myself, here's a guy who when he gets out of Leavenworth, all he talks about is either running for Congress or going back into the military and serving his country again.
God bless his poor mother Anna, you know, her heart breaks every day.
Her her baby boys in jail for doing what we asked him to do, which is to protect his fellow men and women in the line of duty.
You know, so it's like this is all we can do.
You know, I get this microphone, I get to yell at you on the mic and off the mic.
It's my it's my duty.
That's my pleasure and my duty.
So annoying, but it's a very annoying.
It's I get paid to be annoying, you know.
That's what I do.
But you know, everybody's doing their best here.
So everybody was this this is why I I look at this in three hundred and sixty-four days.
It's it's an all hands on deck moment.
And I hope this is just the beginning.
I hope, you know, Pete, you've been all over it.
Don, God bless you, Louie.
We love you, Linda, Lauren, everybody.
You know, like the the election in 364 days is a tipping point.
You know, we as a country, our soul has got to be that we have the backs.
We asked these young men to go fight.
Yep.
We can't put handcuffs on these guys and then throw them in jail if they didn't make the perfect decision.
It that you know, Pete mentioned the Fogel War.
I you you don't know.
You know, I can't I can't even believe we second guessed their decisions, you know.
Louis, go ahead.
Well, I can't help but think about uh the fact that uh under Commander in Chief Bush, we lost about 600 precious military lives in Afghanistan in the worst part of the war, and then under Commander in Chief Obama, because of the rules engagement and and prosecuting people like this, we ended up losing three times that many.
And I was shocked to read a brief that said uh from the World War One, World War II, Korea, and Vietnam, there were seven Americans convicted of war crimes in combat theaters and in Iraq and Afghanistan, there have been two hundred and twelve.
It shows how political correctness had done so much damage.
And and thank God you you've all you have promoted this the way you have, and now it's come into fruition, and we just thank you.
Thank you so much.
Final word from Pete.
Pete Heggsoth, my colleague and pro.
You know what?
Absolutely thank you.
But I'll tell you, I I I can't help but think back to during the Obama years.
We knew the eight-digit grid to the headquarters of ISIS in Mosul.
We knew where it was, but we wouldn't hit it because of all the layers and controls of what we could and could not do.
President Trump comes in and it's eradicated, and our guys are empowered to do it.
And and but any one of us could have been leading that because I could have been Clinton Rent.
I was an infantry platoon leader uh i in in Afghanistan and in Iraq in Iraq, but then I served in Afghanistan.
Those those are those last second decisions.
You can never you've never plan what it's gonna look like.
Uh so it's personal for the guys that have been there.
Clint's a symbol of it, the beginning of even more stories that need to be told.
Uh, but it's hey, let's take a victory lap on this because it is a r it is a reflective of values.
Our country values those we leave behind on the battlefield and are wrongly accused.
Kudos to everyone that's stuck with it on this.
Because it's not popular to take this position.
Oh, you're you're backing up these guys.
They made the wrong call.
Who are you?
You you weren't there.
You don't know what they faced, and you don't know the viciousness of our enemy.
So uh it's the right thing to do.
And uh thanks for beating the drum, Sean.
Last word, Don Bro.
It's about putting America first, putting America's service members first, and ending these rules of engagement and engagement forever that put the enemy's lives more important than American lives.
I'm hoping that once Clinton is free that Louie and his colleagues at some point will take action to change the unicorn, put a military justice, so that this foolishness doesn't happen again.
God bless America.
It's a great day for America.
It's gonna be a great veterans' day.
All right, I want to thank you all.
Pete Heggseth, Don Brown, Louis Gomert, Lauren, Linda, and uh all the people involved, too many to name that made this day possible on the president for sticking by these brave men and women.
Quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
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If the president is watching, what do you want to say to him?
I love you, sir.
You're awesome.
You and your uh, you know, I I'll say this, Mr. President.
I wish you had a better team around you.
Uh you knew you need more people watching your back.
Um, and uh I think you don't have a lot of that, and and that is absolutely unfortunate.
And that uh that infuriates me to no end.
I've got to get your comment on this.
As someone who wants to be the next commander in chief tweeted about your case and Matt's case and Eddie's case, it was Joe Biden.
He tweeted this.
He said Trump's intervention in the American military justice system to pardon service members accused or convicted of war crimes, betrays the rule of law, the values that make our country exceptional, and in the men and women who wear the uniform honorably, he's not fit to command our troops.
What would you say to that?
Well, I would say with all due respect to the former vice president.
Um, you know, uh that seems to be a um a partisan um answer.
That seems to be uh something that he's just towing the party line on.
Um, I highly doubt the vice president, uh, being the patriotic man with a with a son in the military, like he had.
Um, I highly doubt that he really believes that.
And I think that what he's doing is he's towing the party line.
And he's he's uh doing what he thinks his donors and his uh the people that are signing his paycheck uh are expecting him to do.
And um, I think if you were to sit down with them face to face, I think you'd have an issue saying that right face to face.
All right, that was Clint Lowrance on with our buddy Pete Heggseth.
We have followed Clint Lowrance's case now for six years.
We have now followed this case of this grave injustice.
And thanks to the president, uh, we now have he is granted pardons uh and restored the the rank to Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, but he signed full pardons for Army First Lieutenant Clint Lowrence and Army Major Matthew Goldstein and directed promotion of special warfare operator, first class Eddie Gallagher, which we interviewed Eddie before.
And I gotta tell you, this is a case I cannot believe we have gotten to this point where we have people in air-conditioned offices now, second guessing what are brave men and women when they have to make a life and death decision for themselves and their platoon members, uh, and if they make the wrong decision, well, they're in trouble.
And we end up putting them in jail.
And that's basically what happened to Clint Lorance.
This goes back to July of 2012.
He's leading men on combat through a heavily planted Afghan minefields, risking his life for his country.
Anyway, the moving single file to avoid the IEDs, which are planted all over the place.
And then three Afghan men start charging Lawrence's men on a motorcycle on a road that's controlled by the Taliban, ignoring signs that they were supposed to stay off the road.
And uh he asked to as platoon leader, maybe he has five seconds to make the decision.
What do I do here?
Do I save my guys?
Now, here's an interesting side note to all of This is that that very platoon had been ambushed by these motorcycle IED guys.
What was it two weeks prior?
Yep.
And they lost the platoon leader, didn't they not?
And others were injured.
Right.
Correct?
Right.
So the these guys are coming right at them.
Anyway, so he goes on trial.
And how many, and by the way, Clinton Lawrence is is with us, Army Lieutenant Clint Lorance.
And also as his attorney, Don Brown, how many years have you been working on this now, Don?
Going a couple of years now.
And the legal team's been involved with this for five years.
John Marister, the team, we're so grateful for today, Sean.
We really are.
A big day today.
It's great to finally meet you.
You too.
You too, Sean.
Have you heard we've been talking about you a little bit?
Were your ears burning at all?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And at first, you know, if I can, you know, I I try to when anybody asks me anything about the last couple of days, the first thing I say is thank you to President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.
And I think that's something that I'll probably do for the rest of my life.
Um they they just saved my life, and I owe them my life.
And uh the men and women of the United States military, uh, they have a real good man in the White House.
Well, certainly he's supporting his military.
What was very interesting, and and you could maybe why don't you walk us through that day?
Because I want people to hear what happened from you.
Okay.
So uh I'll walk you through it, uh, but I I'd like you to uh consider that it's been uh about seven years now.
Um, so my my memory is kind of faded, and I've I've uh I've sort of, you know, I think some things have kind of melded together over the years.
But essentially, uh we were on a dismounted foot patrol.
Uh, and the reason we were using dismounts, uh, which is you know, for your non-military listeners, uh, you're walking.
Um, so we're we're a foot patrolling.
And you're the new platoon leader.
I'm the new, yep, I'm the new guy.
I've been there.
Single file.
Right, single file.
I'm the new guy.
I've been there uh about 72 hours by now.
So I don't know any of these guys, none of them know me.
And you know, I still to be honest with you, I can't even remember most of their names.
And you know, there's there's still some people like in the in the stars documentary that came out that uh I'm like, who is that?
Like I don't know who that is.
How long prior to you getting there was the platoon leader killed in a very similar situation you're about to describe?
Well, the platoon the previous platoon leader was not killed, but that we there were soldiers that that were unfortunately killed uh by those uh animals that were fighting over there.
Um cowards really.
Uh but um the previous platoon leader that I replaced, he was he was wounded in action, uh unfortunately.
He's he's he's doing well these days.
Um, but uh I I can't remember exactly how long it was, it was a few weeks um that the platoon was out, was out there without a platoon leader, and then I can't.
So motorcycles are coming at your platoon.
Yep.
So what so what happened was uh in an overall you know helicopter view.
Um, so essentially we had um a group of Taliban who were massing on our position.
And so they had collected in a a large area up to the north of our position, and uh they split up from that area, and then I ordered uh and and mind you, uh I'm giving these orders to my soldiers who are telling me what they're seeing.
I can't see everything, right?
Because it's just the nature of where we're at.
And so I can't see anything.
I'm hearing all these reports coming out.
I'm hearing reports coming in from the the army attack helicopters that are up up uh above the uh the the area.
Um, and um, so I've got all these reports coming in, and um I know that you know the commander's instinct is very important.
The commander on the ground is very important, and there's a reason why one guy wears lieutenant bars, there's a reason why one guy is our gal is in charge because they have to make that very difficult decision that nobody else has to make.
You legally have to make that decision.
The problem is with, you know, when when when when we have when we don't have President Donald Trump in the White House, we have people who will not stand up for our soldiers and will not let our leaders of the thing.
I want to make sure we get this in, though.
So these motorcycle guys are coming at you.
Right.
This is a known tactic that they blow themselves up and they they literally are coming to kill you.
Right.
All right, you're getting all the reports coming in.
You got to make a how long did you have to make a decision and what did you say to your troops?
Oh, wow, it was a few seconds.
Uh everything was happening, just I mean, rapid lightning fast.
And you know, I'm thinking of myself, I'm thinking, my God, I just took over.
These guys are all young.
I'm gonna have to write letters and and talk to their mom and dad.
You know, I'm sorry I got your son killed because I made a bad decision.
There's just so many things going through your head, and you're sitting there thinking, my God, we're the United States Army, you know, we can't lose, we won't lose, but I don't want to lose my men.
I love them.
They're they're Americans, they're 18 years old.
And and so you're thinking, uh you're thinking all of those things are going through your head, and that's a lot to go through your head at the same time as what tactical decision do I make in terms of how do I respond to the Taliban that's attacking my position.
And so I made the best decision that I can make given the the the uh conditions on the ground.
And I'll tell you this, Sean, I would make the same exact decision again today if I was faced with that decision because if I had come home with my soldiers, any of my soldiers having been killed on my watch, then you know, that that would have been far worse than living in Fort Leavenworth for six years.
So you make the decision, you take these two guys out.
When did you know you might be in trouble over this?
Well, to be honest with you, I uh I had never given any thought to the military justice system.
We you know, it's known as the uniform code of military justice, or as we soldiers call it, kangaroo court.
Uh and so essentially, uh I never thought about it.
I never thought, you know, that my chain of command would second guess what the decision I made.
When when did you first find out that they were second guessing?
Um they had uh my brigade commander uh essentially uh made a it was almost like a predetermined decision, made a decision uh he he basically decided I was guilty before even talking to me.
Well uh and and and you and the military and the army, especially in in the combat arms part of the army, when a brigade commander, when a senior officer makes a decision about something, he doesn't even have to say anything.
He can have a frown on his face when he's talking about it.
And all the rest of the butt kissing officers that are uh underneath him are gonna follow his lead.
That's just the way it is.
How many days after this did you realize holy that I'm now being I'm being put on trial for making a split second decision?
Well, uh I'd say maybe uh a couple of months uh started to build up.
Yeah.
And then what was interesting about your case, because then you got sentenced how many years in jail?
Twenty initially it was twenty, then the uh it and sort of a joke, uh the the convening authority reduced it uh by one year to nineteen years.
And so how many years in Leavenworth did you spend?
Six years and about a couple of months.
And we then found out later, because they were trying to say, carz I I guess under the Obama administration, they were they were trying to say that you had killed innocent farmers.
That was what they said at the time.
Yeah.
But then when new information came back, uh that they had biometric evidence that they apparently withheld this evidence, which is exculpatory for you, that in fact tied the guys that you did kill right to planting IEDs.
Didn't they find their DNA on IEDs and they were able to definitively say that's the DNA of these guys on these IEDs?
Right.
Well, that should have freed you immediately.
Why didn't that happen?
Let me ask you a lawyer on this.
Uh Sean, thanks for the question.
The uh Army dug in deeper.
They dug in deeper to protect the system.
They dug in deeper at multiple levels.
The United States government has never denied that these were Taliban bomb makers.
They their position was, well, Clint had no way of knowing it.
Well, nobody has any way of knowing what a farmer is with a weapon over there.
They dug themselves in to protect a corrupted system.
And to this day have not apologized for it.
As soon as this evidence came forward, they should have let Clint out of prison, they hid it initially from the initial defense team, which is why we got a corruption.
That's withholding exculpatory evidence.
Six years of this guy's life now that been wasted in jail.
Not you not wasted, but you know what I mean, that he had to live in prison.
U.S. Supreme Court Brady versus Maryland, they got to turn that over initially.
That's the Brady law that our friend Sidney Powell often speaks of on the shows representing General Flynn.
So does he have any legal recourse here?
You have at this point, we still haven't gotten uh an official notification.
The defense team is not from the Department of the Army as to the status of discharge.
He's been legally pardoned.
There's no crime at all.
We're still looking into the issues.
No, I'm looking about who you can sue.
I want to know you know, what legal recourse he has to get recovery for the six years of his life that was stolen from him when they withheld the exculpatory evidence.
I hear if I can I interject something there, uh Don?
Yeah, yeah.
Just don't yeah, go ahead.
I'll I I I know I you know, I I get uh these these looks from my lawyers all the time.
Uh first of all, I have an amazing legal team.
There's there's there's just there's so many of them.
Mr. Brown here is uh is a lead with with Colonel Maher.
They're amazing.
But I'll say this if if given you ask, you know, who you could sue, um, I don't want to sue anybody.
And I'm not sure.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't ever say those words.
No.
Well, let me just say this, Sean.
Let me explain myself.
I'm not gonna sue the United States government as long as President Donald Trump is in charge of it.
But I'll say this.
You're not sure what I'm gonna do.
You're not suing Donald Trump.
Let me tell you something.
You're suing the people that stole six years of your life by withholding exculpatory evidence.
That's who deserve, they need to be held accountable.
Right.
I absolutely agree, and we're gonna hold the and hold them accountable by reforming the military justice system so it doesn't ever happen to anybody else.
We cannot let this happen to anybody else.
What is his legal recourse, counsel?
Don't let him say the words, I'm not gonna sue.
Well, it's legal recourse is a legal team's gonna have to discuss that.
But uh, you know, you're correct.
Somebody made decisions up the chain of command to deny Clinton not only his constitutional rights, but take away six years of his life.
Uh, this prosecution should have never taken place to begin with.
There's some things that active duty can and cannot do because of the fairest doctrines and how did they get to this conclusion, though?
You know, he's got five sec three seconds to decide.
He knows the situation that he just immersed himself in 72 hours.
How did they get to second guess that anyway?
They were hacked off because they wanted to get him for violating Obama's rules of engagement under what I call the battlefield lawyer rule.
In other words, he has to wait until his men get blown up or shot before he can fight back.
You know, you have to they they're the hotel.
That's insanity.
Right.
So they want to make an example of him.
And by the way, they lost on that's how Americans die in war.
If we're not prepared to send our brave men, we're gonna ask him to go fight, don't put handcuffs on them and let them fight and win.
Three times three times as many Americans died under President Obama than President Trump in Afghanistan.
And the reason is because of suicidal rules of engagement that put the lives of the Taliban over the lives of Americans.
Well, they if if we have to wait to get shot at first in that environment, then we don't we don't belong sending our sons and daughters there, period.
Uh welcome home, sir.
It's great to have you back.
Thank you, sir.
Uh, you got a great team of lawyers here.
I get so I know you got to meet Linda and Lauren and the whole team down there at Leavenworth.
Uh thank God you're home, and I wish you only the best for your life.
Thank you, Sean.
We've got to be a good thing.
And I would sue, I would sue the living crap out of all of them.
We've talked about this case for six years.
Yeah, but you're yeah, we couldn't do it without you.
God bless you.
Should never have happened.
And there are other people too.
We're gonna fix it, Sean.
We're gonna fix it.
All right.
God bless you.
Thank you for joining us.
And uh we're so glad you're free.
Yes, sir.
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Uh, we had a pretty spectacular moment.
We didn't spend enough time on yesterday, but that was the debate Wednesday night on the Area 51 conspiracy theory channel of Rachel Maddow and uh Elizabeth Warren is part of this debate.
And I didn't think we'd ever get worse than Nancy Pelosi, you got to pass the bill to find out what's in the bill.
I'm like, okay, wow.
And then of course we got Obamacare, and that was sold to us as well.
You get to keep your doctor, you get to keep your plan, and you get to save money.
Well, that didn't work out because millions of Americans lost their doctors, lost their plans, and everybody is paying more money on average, over 174% more in money.
We were supposed to say you say average family's gonna save $2,500 per family per year.
No, that didn't happen.
Now we doubled and now we're tripling it.
Um, so it was pretty spectacular.
So she's now trying to ram down America's throat, her $52 trillion 10-year spending plan, Medicare for all, with no private option of any private health care.
And remember one other fact 37% of American counties only have one option for health care.
Provide under the Obama exchanges.
They got one choice and one choice only.
That's 40% of the country.
That's how bad this is this has become, what this lie evolved into.
Now we're gonna we're gonna take Obamacare, every promise broken, failing at a spectacular level.
All the big insurance companies said thanks, but no thanks.
We're out of here.
And now people have one option, and now they want to say, okay, not only gonna pass it to know what's in it, but now you're gonna have to we're gonna pass it and you're gonna feel it, and you're gonna live under it, and you're gonna taste it, and then you'll like it.
Here's Elizabeth Warren.
And in the first hundred days, I'm gonna bring in a hundred and thirty five million people in Medicare for All at no cost to them.
Everybody under the age of 18, everybody who has family for income less than 50,000.
I'm gonna lower the age of Medicare to 50 and expand Medicare coverage to include uh vision and dental and long-term care.
And then in the third year, when people have had a chance to feel it and taste it and live with it, we're gonna vote and we're gonna want Medicare for all.
Feel it, taste it, then you'll want it.
Wow.
That is scary.
Uh, we have had a longtime friend of the program.
One of my biggest complaints about Republicans on this whole health care thing is so they got Obamacare passed, and lo and behold, Republicans, they have what, 65 or so show votes in the House of Representatives to repeal and replace Obamacare.
It was never going anywhere because Obama was the president.
He was not gonna repeal his signature legislation.
And we even add in the U.S. Senate, we had Republicans vote up and down, up or down on a on a straight repeal bill.
And And seven senators in 2015 that voted for a straight repeal, Republican senators, when they had a chance where it would matter in 2017 with Donald Trump as president, they changed their minds.
Show votes.
That's where the disconnect is with the Republican Party and Sean Hannity.
Because the fact that seven years passed and they they didn't talk about health savings accounts.
I've been talking about patient power, Cato Institute, Goodman and Musgrave, their book years ago.
In other words, health care savings accounts.
We have had Dr. Josh Umber, Atlas MD, on this program.
We've sent him to Washington.
He's met with Newt Gingrich.
He's met with members of Congress because he's created a system in Wichita, Kansas, Atlas MD, where, okay, you pay $50 a month as an adult, 10 bucks a month as a kid, for unlimited access to your doctor 247 365.
And what's even more amazing, take care of stitches, they take care of, you know, most of the stuff that we need taken care of.
You need a ZPAC, you got high cholesterol, you got high blood pressure.
And then he wisely went and negotiated directly with pharmaceutical companies.
So he gets the drugs that people usually need at 90, 95% discounts, and then passes the savings on to his patients.
And guess what?
They walk out of the doctor's office, they don't have to go to the pharmacy.
How cool is that?
Then he's taken this model, which is not only producing a good living for him, and it's, you know, he gets more patients than he can even handle, and he's now duplicating it around the country.
Anyway, Dr. Josh Umber's with us, and Dr. Lee S. Gross is with us, the presidents of Doctors for Patient Care Foundation and the founder of the Epiphany Health Direct Primary Care.
Um now, both of them, by the way, have come up with a pretty interesting idea that I like, and I'm gonna let them tell you about it themselves.
But, you know, is that what we need now, Dr. Josh?
We're gonna we're gonna have to feel it and taste Medicare and swallow it for years, and then we'll really come to appreciate it.
You know, it it was a bizarre way to describe it.
You you have to elect me to see what you'll get, um, because I think it's it's such a hard premise to pitch on your own.
Um, but so thank you for for giving us the opportunity and and uh sharing the airtime with you to explain how it could work.
You know, she's looking at a bigger system, more complication, more bureaucracy.
Uh, and what we're trying to do is show that less is actually what we need.
Uh the direct care model or direct care for all uh could you make medicine great again.
We can offer unlimited visits, no copays, free procedures, wholesale meds and labs for up to 95% off.
If we can do that at now over 1,200 practices in the country, and and Dr. Lee just put on the largest conference all year with over 400 docs in attendance, then we can do this everywhere.
And we can decrease insurance premiums by 30 to 60 percent.
This is a real viable model.
It skips the DC swamp, it skips the you know, divided Congress, and it actually gets meaningful uh health care reform down uh to Main Street.
So, Sean, but so here's what happens though, is that you know, where Congress was not able to step in and repeal Obamacare, the president and the administration has done everything they can through changing the regulations, relaxing things so that you can actually return medicine back to the doctors and patients because frankly, patients trust their doctors to reform health care.
But you know, as you're seeing all these things unfold in Washington, you're seeing the games being played in Congress, you have to wonder what they're distracting you from and what Congress is working on behind the scenes is actually quite dangerous.
So the president find an executive order that expands access to direct primary care, it frees doctors and patients to engage in these direct care relationships.
But Congress is actually working on regulations that undermine the president's executive orders.
It's re-weaponizing the internal revenue service, just like we saw back under Lois Lerner.
We're reweaponizing the Internal Revenue service to go after doctors and patients for using their own health care dollars for their own health care services, setting the stage for socialized medicine.
And we can't let that happen, but it's happening behind the scenes with all these distractions.
So you guys got this bill out.
It's actually being represented by or put into Congress.
It's called HR uh 3708 would bar some doctors from providing direct primary care, uh, which by the way, separate and apart.
But you know, you got a powerful lobby in the health care industry all over Congress, but barred doctors from providing direct primary care, block prescribed treatments for from qualifying for medical reimbursements, and impose new restrictions on how patients use their health savings accounts.
Uh well, that wouldn't work out very well for the patient in my mind, Dr. Umber.
I I don't think it would work out very well.
We're in a system where we want to see patients thrive and have less of the IRS in their household, less decisions being controlled on how they spend their health care dollars.
And I think the idea with the the party that wants Medicare for all is well, you don't need your own dollars anyways because we're going to try to manage that.
So anything they can do to weaken the health savings account rules, like Dr. Lee said through weaponizing the IRS would uh would help in their cause of limiting patient choice.
And so we really you know are trying to fight hard and punch above our weight class and and encourage any listener to reach out to their uh representatives.
They'll be closed uh for the holiday break, so they'll be coming home, they'll be near you and and let them hear you that you don't support a bill that would damage their uh HSA spending abilities or damage their access to a direct care practice that could you know really revolutionize health care.
It really could.
I mean, and it's where how many times have you been able to duplicate what you're doing at Atlas MD around the country?
In other words, where people pay 50 bucks a month, adults, uh kids 10 bucks a month, unlimited care, 90 plus percent uh reductions and prescriptions.
And then if you couple that or accompany that with a catastrophic plan, if God forbid you get cancer, have a heart attack, or have a bad accident, which is you know, catastrophic care is relatively inexpensive, what especially the higher deductible you have.
Um that that then brings your monthly health care total for an individual adult down to what uh 400 a month?
I think we could, you know, we've been able to do this now with about 50 percent year over year growth uh in in the model.
So it's it really is picking up fast.
We opened 29 new clinics in October alone, uh, so essentially one a day, just ourselves.
Um, I mean, these are all independently owned uh uh physicians, so they're doing the the grunt work, but we're we're helping guide the the path.
Uh and with Dr. Lee, I think you know, together we've come touched about 80% of the new practices.
Uh but you you're right.
We could in best case scenario decrease the cost of health insurance premiums to under, I think five hundred dollars per household.
So on average, this is definitely not health care for the wealthy.
You know, this is not health care for the wealthy.
This is health care for rural America, this is health care for inner city America of all shapes, walks.
Everyone can afford this.
If you can afford a cell phone, you can afford health care.
You do not need to get people in the in the middle of this relationship.
It just clouds this.
And we're thankful that the president did sign executive order.
And we're looking forward to this rule being released in a few weeks that that uh from the Treasury that expands the opportunities for patients and doctors, and we can't let Congress get in the way and undermine the efforts of the president and his administration.
And the idea is if this bill happens, what you do has to end, Dr. Umber, your successful model practice that you've developed and duplicated nearly a thousand times around this country.
That by the way, how by let me ask you, how many patients do you have in your practice?
How many doctors, how many patients?
We have uh five doctors in our practice and a little over three uh thirty, three hundred patients.
And by the way, every patient has access to a doctor 247, 365, right?
Yep.
I was just emailing a patient back right before we got on with you.
And and they have your own personal text number.
Yep.
And and most people like me, they don't want to go see the doctor, but they only call when they have a problem, right?
Right.
Right.
But then you have the few people that call you every freaking day and drive you nuts and really get their 50 bucks uh a month or the 50 bucks is it fifty?
It's 50 a month, right?
Or we get a mix, and so it ends up at least being a sustainable model, better for the person.
That's $300 a month for if you get catastrophic insurance, then.
I mean, right.
And and you're and you're able to absorb your five doctors, 3,300 patients, 24 7, 365, and that includes their yearly checkup, a full exam, stitches, what else?
Broken bones.
What else is included?
Basically, anything we can do in our office.
So you know, some broken bones are big enough we'll we'll need a uh orthopedic surgeon, and some, especially in young kids are called Green Stick, they're just more of a crack.
So we can manage that with splinting in our office.
Um, but basically decrease the cost of all your care by 80 to 90 percent, and your insurance premiums by 30 to 60 percent.
So if we could put a local hospital builders that integrated this with with their employees and allowed their employees to sign up for this, we saved the hospital 60 percent on their employee employee health costs.
The employees had 20% reduction in premiums, 30% reduction in all out of pocket costs while eliminating copays and deductibles.
We want people to oppose this third this HR 3708.
It restricts doctors working from their patients, it restricts access to affordable medications, and it controls and restricts for the first time in history a patient's ability to use their own money to pay their doctor.
It's unbelievable.
All right, quick break.
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All right, as we continue with Dr. Josh Umber and Dr. Lee S. Gross, he's the president of Doctors for Patient Care and that Foundation.
Well, uh are you asking people to contact their congressmen and women?
Do we know we have a date on this vote or what?
Yes, absolutely.
Uh contact your your congressman.
Um, you know, phone calls are great, emails are still very helpful, and just let them know to vote no on 3708.
Uh, we're hoping it never gets even to a vote.
We're hoping that um you know the Republicans see that this isn't uh a bill that uh helps everybody, and you know, this is is not going to be something that makes health care affordable for everyone if this this gets a vote.
So the more we can educate the representatives that this is a bad bill for the innovation of of health care, uh, the more successful we'll be.
All right, thank you both for what you do every day.
Dr. Josh Umber, Atlas MD.
If you're in Wichita, that's the practice you need to be a part of.
Uh Dr. Lee Gross, uh, where's your practice?
In Florida, North Port, Florida.
Northport, Florida.
So get in touch with Dr. Lee Gross there, and uh you'll have uh care like you've never dreamed of.
But it's basically concierge care.
You understand?
We could have this for every American.
You get, I mean, I look, I I'll be honest, I have friends that are doctors.
If I need to call my doctor's friends at two in the morning, uh I'm gonna get through.
But I know that I'm just lucky that those are my friends.
I just happen to have friends that are that would care enough to take my call at two in the morning.
A lot of people may not have a doctor friend.
And uh it's like we're this is what they're gonna do, but we have to feel it and we have to taste it.
We have to live with it, and then we're gonna like it.
I'm not so sure.
Trust me, is that the is that's how it's gonna go now?
We're gonna trust us, trust the government.
Wow, works out so well when we trust them, doesn't it?
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Um and I thought it gave a great speech today.
The president also we broke news last week.
Uh people like Clint Lawrence, Eddie Gallagher, all these guys that have been treated on so unfairly by a military.
You know, we asked these guys to go fight, risk their lives, come back, you know, without their arms and legs way too often if they come back at all or disfigured.
And then we're second-guessing choices in the battlefield, and there has been so much unfairness that we've been able to expose.
Too much to go into now.
But um, on this Veterans Day, we've had Tyler uh Merritt uh on this program before.
He's the founder of Nine Line Apparel, and it's a veteran-owned and operated company.
And what this great company does, they have a great role in the workplace and a sense of purpose.
And so they help vets with jobs and and re-acclamation, and we have just partnered with them.
We call it the Hannity Store, and what we put in there is all made by nine-line.
This um nine line apparel is a veteran-owned company.
They have created jobs in the U.S. manufacturing here.
And so far, 150 guys are working in and around the Savannah area since their five uh founding, uh, primarily for veterans and their families.
It's an American brand, American-focused company.
Their designs are kick-ass uh to be very straightforward.
And anyway, we kind of now have partnered with them, and we've got a lot of great stuff we're putting up on Hannity.com.
We'll remind you about it.
And uh also with Tyler Merritt, we have our buddy Eddie Gallagher.
You knew about his case recently.
The president mentioned him the other day as well as somebody that will be reinstated back to his full rank.
And uh, after the hell that they put him through, I mean, we send these guys to fight, we put handcuffs on them, the rules of engagement, and then when if they have to make a split-second decision, then we've got some guys in an air-conditioned office questioning their decision making.
It's insane.
Uh, anyway, welcome both of you, our partners, uh Tyler Merritt.
Welcome aboard, sir.
And Eddie, good to see you, my friend.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
Hey, thanks, Sean.
Actually, uh, Eddie and I had the honor and the privilege to be at the address with the president earlier today.
Sitting next to uh his son.
And it's it's an honor to work with you.
And it's just like it's an honor to be able to sit next to you people like Eddie Gallagher on this Veterans Day.
So thank you so much for having us on.
Talk about nine line, how you started this, how you ever were crazy enough to partner with us.
Um, how many jobs you're creating, the types of stuff you're manufacturing, and you're doing it here in America, and you're hiring a lot of vets and helping them out.
Yeah, Sean.
I actually was uh I was still uh in the military serving in special operations.
I was a glorified bus driver for people like Eddie.
So I would take them and and put them in the places that no one should ever go and hopefully never have to uh hear that nine-line call.
Because uh in the military, that term nine-line is a distress call.
And when we set off to create this brand, I wanted something that resonated with our fan base.
Uh something that would bridge the gap between the civil and military divide that was really prevalent at that time around 2012.
Uh so the the idea, the name came up about for my brother.
Um he said, hey, let's let's call it nine-line.
Let's reinvigorate patriotism.
Let's try to have a call to action to have people put their their you know money where their mouth is, and that's essentially what we wanted to do as well.
So we we started nine-line apparel in 2012, 2014.
Um I I had a buddy of mine from West Point who lost pretty much all of his limbs.
Uh, and we started nine-line foundation.
And since then, we've been able to build uh wheelchair adaptable homes for severely wounded veterans, and now we're on an initiative to build tiny homes for homeless veterans.
We actually, with your help, Sean, actually, we we uh built our 20th home.
Um so awesome.
All right, so tell bring everybody up to speed.
I mean, I know we got the quid pro quote Joe t-shirts up, and apparently I guess people like them.
I like them a lot.
Hashtag quid pro quote Joe.
They're they're going pretty well.
And obviously, there's uh there's a lot that needs to be discussed.
And and the the cool thing about Nine Line is that we've been able to have a voice for the veteran community and for the I I would say you know, patriotism in general.
That's why partnering with you and and allowing us to have an even bigger ju voice to uh call out the injustices.
The injustices like Eddie Gallagher being put in prison for nine months, the injustices like uh Joe Biden and his children making millions and millions of dollars uh when there's no place for the those type of actions in politics.
You know, politics and business needs to be separate.
That seems to be what the Trumps are doing.
They've stopped doing international politics instead of trying to make money off the government.
They're trying to uh better our country.
And I think you putting it out there is important.
How did you become uh friends with Eddie?
By the way, if you don't remember Eddie Gallagher, he's the uh Navy SEAL special warfare operator, and he went through a well over a year of hell um facing a court martial um on premeditated murder, attempted murder, obstruction of justice, uh, after a picture emerged of him with one of the casualties, turns out that he was trying to save the guy's life.
And in the middle of these proceedings, somebody stood up and said, No, I'm the one that did it.
Um, and how we got to that point where nobody would listen to him from the get-go, um, and that a couple of, you know, people with an agenda uh had just told outright falsehoods about them.
Uh became a pretty high profile terrible case.
Uh, my buddy Bernie Kerrick was uh active in this completely.
But um, what did you think about the president saying that you're gonna be reinstated and your full rank and everything else put back?
Uh yeah, I'm I'm once again, I'm grateful for the president stepping in and uh doing the right thing.
Um, you know, he's he stepped in twice before, and I think you know, he he takes a look at my case and can resonate with it.
Um, the way that uh I was treated from the get-go.
Um, it's guilty until proven innocent.
And, you know, there was nothing I could do to uh, you know, talk to anybody or try and prove my innocence.
And, you know, they threw me in prison for no reason at all.
How long were you in jail for?
Uh it was nine months.
Nine months locked up.
Um we talk about going on deployments, and it's it's that justifiable reason to leave your family behind.
But this is an individual that was pulled from his house.
Uh, you know, children were taken out at gunpoint.
And I had the pleasure to hang out with Andrea.
We just finished hanging out with uh Bernie Carrick and and seeing your children.
I mean, you're a great father.
You're an incredible soldier.
And to watch this man get ramrodted uh and falsely accused.
And it became just so political.
You have Hillary Clinton out there saying this that this man is grotesque and she has No idea who you are.
And I I think that's where this just continued to steamroll out of control.
And luckily, we have a commander in chief that uh doesn't, you know, pull any punches and he can call a spade a spade and he saw the injustices that were occurring.
And uh I think it's incredible that he was willing to, you know, despite any of the backlash that he gets, stand up for what was right.
And I think that's one of the things that I'm really proud of our organization to be able to work with you and help raise funds for your defense counsel and to try to tell everyone the real story because Eddie Gallagher is a hero.
Eddie Gallagher was almost put in prison for the rest of his life for absolutely no reason.
And on Veterans Day, we should remember that you're not a disposable seal.
You know, the the these are individuals that have sacrificed so much.
Yeah, and Eddie, I I love you to death, man.
But I I woke you up last night in the middle of the night and you're about ready to fight me.
And that's that fighter flight mentality because you're still in it.
You talk about going overseas and then coming back and being put in prison.
And this individual has such an incredible outlook in life.
And on this Veterans Day, I couldn't be prouder to say that I've served with you overseas.
And uh I'm I'm so glad that you're not.
There's so many other guys that are, you know, we have to identify all of them, make sure every case gets heard.
Um, are there to times, occasions that maybe people, you know, lose it, lose their power, lose, lose control, make mistakes.
Yeah.
Um, but under the fog of war, it's it's to me there there are always special circumstances that have got to be factored in.
And, you know, when you put handcuffs on brave men and women, you tell them to go fight, then if they do fight and then they only have a split second to make a decision, and maybe it's not the right decision.
Um, there's gotta be some application of understanding of of the environment that they're working in.
And I think I think we've gotten to a point where we really forget that.
Um, you're you're absolutely correct, Sean.
And I think, you know, during this whole the you know, trial that I went through and just the uh imprisonment beforehand.
Uh me and my wife, you know, would sit there on the phone and like, how can this happen?
And uh, you know, we've come to the conclusion that this happened for a reason.
And there's a light that needs to be shown on, you know, the UCMJ and the injustices that happen to war fighters and how they treat them when they come back.
Um, and we're hoping to uh, you know, keep shining a lot of that and maybe do some justice reform.
Yeah, you you you're talking about warfighters being tried by uh people who have almost zero combat experience.
None.
You know, they these are individuals that I flew Apaches and everyone loved to double triple guess my decisions to pull a trigger.
You know, everything is videotaped.
And it's hey, are you sure that you were you felt threatened?
Yeah, dude's shooting at me.
Look at the machine gun.
Uh, but that that's what my friends have to go through.
That's what we have to go through on a regular basis.
And yeah, there is a extreme responsibility with taking uh another human's life.
But if you're asking us to go overseas and do bad things to bad people, the least you can do is stick up for us when we get back.
Exactly.
All right, let's go through the nine-line apparel.
Linda, why don't you explain how we put this up on the website?
You are very, very instrumental in putting this all together.
Well, you know, I got my buddy Tyler here, you know, and I got this other troublemaker, Eddie Gallagher.
So, you know.
Who's been saying who's been dropping more F bombs?
You guys or Linda.
I'm just guessing.
Oh, it's me for sure.
Every day we actually I was we we are blessed today with Tyler's little girls here.
So we're keeping it, we're keeping it very clean.
It's a clean show.
This is the PG version.
Exactly.
Yeah, my two little girls, so zero F. Actually, she caught me in the background, and I I owe her money for the swear jar.
How much how much does it cost?
Oh, I think it's up to like $20 a swear.
He's putting his kid through college on this on his town.
By the way, I think Linda, we ought to do this for Liam.
I mean, he'll be a millionaire in no time.
My poor son, forget about it.
He's four years old.
I think up to now he'd probably be a millionaire.
For sure.
But no, listen, we're super excited.
Nine line apparel and the Hannity show are together at last.
We're doing an awesome kickoff today for Veterans Day, 10% off anything you buy on the Hannity Show.
We've decided that we are both going to donate part of our proceeds to a charity.
You know, where maybe we'll think of uh, we know canine companions or Operation 300 or the Justice for Warriors Fund.
There's so many.
And we've just got awesome clothes out there.
Nine Line makes the best t-shirts, the best hats.
I wear tons of them.
We have tons of shirts up there.
We want you guys to go today in honor of Veterans Day, and every day we should be honoring veterans.
Let's keep that real.
Because our freedoms don't exist without them.
That's the bottom line.
And so go there today, go to Handy Day.com, go to Nine Line Apparel, you know, check it out.
We've got awesome shirts like Quid Pro Quo Joe, which we just launched on Friday.
And we've got um, you know, girls' shirts, guys shirts, and uh it's gonna be really great.
And stay tuned for Black Friday because we're gonna have awesome sales on Black Friday, too.
That's right.
It's awesome.
Awesome work you're doing.
Guys, always great to see you.
Eddie, how does freedom feel these days?
I bet you're feeling a lot better than you did just a couple of months ago.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I mean, it's uh actually pretty crazy.
I was on the uh veteran show last the uh taping last week, and uh, I think Pete Headset asked me the question of you know the difference between last Veterans Day and this Veterans Day, and I told him I was like, well, last Veterans Day, I was actually watching this in prison.
So scary.
I'm completely grateful.
Thank God for everything that's happened.
Another promise the president kept taking better care of our military, fixing the VA hospitals, uh, getting rule rid of the rules of engagement, uh, ending endless wars.
And when you got rid of the rules of engagement, oh, we beat the caliphate in no time in Syria and Baghdadi and six others are dead.
Yes.
Unbelievable.
All right, guys, thank you.
Nine line uh apparel, uh partner now with Hannity.com.
Just go there anytime.
We got a lot of great products and a lot of good stuff for Thanksgiving and Christmas for the family and people you love.
Quick break, right back, we'll continue.
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