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This is getting a little scary here.
Watching the Reagan Library now around Simi Valley, California.
These California fires, they've now had to evacuate the Reagan Library.
I know they're doing everything humanly possible to save the library.
I mean, there's history in there.
But there's been mandatory evacuations.
Firefighters working as hard as they can to battle the flames.
As you can see, they've sort of created a circumference.
The winds have been up high the last couple of days on.
You can see now, even on the picture that Fox has the trees blowing, and that's not good because the embers then pass here and there, but they got helicopters and firefighters.
I mean, it is a we had an update on this yesterday, just brutal.
Uh glad you're with us.
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We'll load it up.
We have Lindsey Graham, uh, Jim Jordan, Matt Gates, uh, and Bill O'Reilly in the Matt Gates case.
He has now filed an ethics investigation issue for Chairman Adam Schiff for violating House uh rules.
We'll we'll get to all of that today in the course of the program.
Um, I will tell you that we're beginning to see cracks in the Democratic armor.
Now, I had told you member Pelosi was gonna hold the vote, and then they didn't hold the vote.
And then I got reports back by spies in the room telling me, yeah, there are about 27 to 32 Democrats saying, hey, this is a bad idea.
This is not gonna work out well for us.
Well, first we'll go to Area 51, Roswell Rachel Maddow's conspiracy channel, known as MSDNC, an extension of all things crazy hoax, conspiracy theory, Democratic Party stuff.
Tom Brokaw has now spoken out.
He was on, I guess, Andrea Mitchell's show.
I've never seen Andrea Mitchell's show.
Anyone ever see Andrea Mitchell's show?
Anyone want to ever see Andrea Mitchell's show?
I couldn't think of anything more boring in my life than watching Andrea Mitchell.
Anyway, he's saying Democrats don't have the goods on President Trump.
He literally said that they don't have the same kind of clarity, he said.
You know, like Durham Watergate, because it was so clear that these were criminal acts that he was involved in.
And Mitchell concurred there's no evidence yet on par with Nixon's Oval Office tapes that showed Nixon was involved in a cover-up.
Tapes are considered the smoking gun.
Well, Brokaw says there are no more, there is no more taping systems in the Oval Office.
That we know.
So he's basically saying you people are dumb.
He's been there, done that, seen that.
And I am telling you, this is nad, this is all good for Donald Trump.
It's uncomfortable, it's unfair, it's not just, it's corrupt, the whole thing, this, you know, Soviet style, you know, secret, everything secret impeachment coup.
And then we went into great detail on the program yesterday about this fake, phony, fraudulent this resolution that the Democrats are passing around.
They're trying to create an appearance of fairness and trying to make it something that it's not.
It is the exact opposite of what Newt Gingrich offered the Democrats and Bill Clinton in 1998 during the impeachment hearings.
The Democrats steadfastly refused to be fair.
And it's getting worse every second minute hour of every day.
And I'm just telling you that this is going to backfire and blow up in their faces.
You know, all the hyperventilating and the hysteria reporting.
We gotta know somebody else was on the call.
They heard it, they heard it all and they heard the call.
And they think it was bad.
They thought it was terrible.
This is shocking and shocking new development.
It doesn't matter what somebody else thinks of it.
Because we have the transcript.
Well, he might have also mentioned Biden more.
I tried to get it adjusted.
He didn't mention Hunter Biden more.
Well, what the president did on this call is not only was it the perfect call, I guess maybe the president said it the right way.
It's the perfect call because the president actually, we now know that Ukraine was involved in 2016 election interference.
I thought Democrats cared about the issue of foreign election interference.
That's what they've told us for the last three years.
And the president saying all this stuff, crowd strike, the Ukraine was at the heart of this.
Well, we have a court decision in Ukraine where the courts in Ukraine found that there was election interference to help Hillary Clinton.
Uh-oh, that's a problem.
Can't have we had Russian interference in the 2016 election.
We have a bought and paid for dirty Russian dossier.
One that was never verified.
And when they finally got around to verifying it, they found they were able to disprove well over 90%.
They proved none of it.
Zero.
We have a dirty dossier.
Nobody cared.
This is how sick you have to be.
What a phony hypocritical, you know, political hack.
And that is the whole media mob.
You have to forget all of that.
And just say, no, no, no, the dirty dossier doesn't mean anything.
We're worried about the other election interference, the ones that the one that Trump was involved in.
He meant to apparently they had a meeting with a Russian.
Oh my gosh.
Wow, Russian.
Now, Ukraine was at the heart of election interference.
Well, we don't care about that.
You know, I there's one House Democrat that's speaking out now.
This is gonna get interesting.
And you got a guy in New Jersey, his name is Jeff Van Drew.
Now, Jeff Van Drew is like this 30 some uh Democrats that are in districts that Donald Trump won in 2016.
These people are looking at this as a suicide mission, and he's smart enough to speak out about it.
What's gonna be interesting to see is how many other Democrats that are in Trump won districts that maybe want to actually do something for the country, see this for the madness that it is, and they're not gonna participate in it.
We'll see if they even have the vote tomorrow.
Um, I had thought it was 100% they were gonna impeach him.
I just said, all right, they're gonna impeach him.
So what?
You know, it's painful, it puts the country through a lot.
It's so corrupt that they're impeaching him over doing the right thing.
Because on the call, the president says, Can you get to the bottom of whatever Ukraine knows about election interference of your country against my country?
He is faithfully executing the laws of the land.
He's doing his constitutional duty, upholding his constitutional oath, faithfully executing.
And when he asks about Hunter and Joe Biden, well, there was a quid pro quo.
And that is Joe Biden bragging on tape.
This is the most amazing thing to me.
The media mob says it's a conspiracy theory.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
It is Joe Biden bragging on tape how he shook down Ukraine.
And he says, you got six hours.
So arrogant, by the way, but that's an aside.
You got six hours.
You fire that prosecutor, you're not gonna get the billion dollars.
If you fire the prosecutor, you get the billion dollars.
You don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get the billion dollars.
That is a quid pro quo.
Why would a vice president of the United States of America ever want and demand and withhold and leverage a billion of our dollars to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor?
Well, we find out that his son hunter is making millions from Ukraine and happens to be being investigated by that prosecutor.
Oh, now it makes perfect sense.
And the dope was dumb enough to go on television.
And he is asked the question do you have any experience in Ukraine?
No.
Any experience in oil?
No.
Any experience in natural gas?
No.
Any experience in the energy sector?
No.
What experience do you have?
Well, I once sat on a board at Amtrak.
What dad got you on that board too?
What experience do you have to be on that board?
So he's so he has no experience in being paid millions of dollars.
Millions.
Now his dad in a quid pro quo shakedown demanding the firing of a prosecutor.
If it was Donald Trump, vice president and Donald Trump Jr. getting the millions, I promise you it would be a big deal in your corrupt media mob and those corrupt Democrats led by the compromised corrupt coward and congenital liar, which is Adam Schiff.
And I'm going to tell you something here.
You have to suspend any connection to reality to be where the mob in the media is today and where Democrats are today.
And yeah, this is disgusting.
This is repulsive, what they're all doing.
It is sick on a level that I never thought I could see in this country.
Frankly scares me for my country.
Because if this crap on top of all the other crap that they've done with the deep state and their other coup attempts, if this continues, we're not going to have a constitutional republic that can stand.
If you have intelligence officials abusing the powerful tools of intelligence that we that we give to them and empower them to use against enemies, foreign and domestic, if they turn the tools of intelligence against us, that's a problem.
Anyway, so you got this House Democrat from New Jersey.
Name is Jeff Van Drew.
And he said that he hasn't seen anything impeachable.
He's likely not voting for this stupid resolution.
I'd imagine I'm not voting for it.
He said yesterday.
He said, obviously, Trump's going to be impeached here.
And it will go to the Senate, he said.
And I believe that in the Senate he will be vindicated.
So we will have the same president, the same candidate who has now been vindicated.
He said that the CBS News.
Then he added, and I'm not sure what everybody wants as a result.
And I also think we've spent a lot of money and a lot of time, and we haven't been able to get a lot of things done.
And now there are other wavering Democrats, according to Fox News, Kendra Horn from Oklahoma, Joe Cunningham, South Carolina, Anthony Brindisi, New York.
He's in a Trump district in New York.
He knows that his fate is connected to this sickness, this madness, the psychosis.
And I don't think Kevin McCarthy is too far off because he now put out the warning.
The Epic Times had this about Nancy Pelosi.
She's gonna lose her power.
And I'm just telling you, the country is watching this and they find it repulsive.
Now, the the inner sanctum, the swamp, the mob, you know, they're they're this insular world in which they live in.
They've insulated themselves off, they cordoned themselves off, they talk to each other on social media, and they try to outdo their hatred of Trump.
And they live in this bubble world of theirs.
They have no idea what this is doing to the American people.
They're sick of it.
They're fed up, they're disgusted that this is happening in their country.
They read the transcript and they say, Oh, they're looking into Ukraine interfered in our elections.
Good.
The president's trying to get to the bottom of it.
They look at Joe Biden, the real quid pro quo, and they're saying, holy cow, why would a vice president?
Oh, his son's getting paid millions, no experience at all.
They see what that is.
That's buying favor and influence.
How hard is it to figure that out?
Anyway, McCarthy points out only takes 19 seats to win the majority.
31 Democrats sitting in seats, Trump carried.
And we're going to carry those again.
And what's more important is watching the Democrats is now they improve, uh, approve of the very impeachment every time they get a primary opponent.
Watch Max Rose, Congressman who said impeachment Was wrong, he added.
Now he's changed the entire system.
You're not innocent until proven guilty.
And again, it's being run by a congressman that's compromised.
That would be the cowardly, corrupt, well, the compromised corrupt coward congenital liar Adam Schiff.
Now, Republicans are now beginning to go on offense.
They're blasting this Soviet-style impeachment coup attempt.
We're watching the corrupt, compromised coward and congenital liar blocking witnesses, feeding them answers, saying witnesses can't answer that question.
You can't answer that question.
They come up with a phony resolution now that's not even a resolution.
It's a meaningless resolution.
Even Pelosi said that.
And it's blowing up in their faces, as it should.
And on top of that, we have in the background something called the Pfizer Report.
Inspector General report coming out.
Oh, and there's a report out today.
Yeah, they're not gonna like this part, but um, a Durham investigation insider says indictments are all but certain.
And the Durham investigation.
Yeah, they're making that is now a criminal probe.
All of this is coming, and it's all coming sooner than later.
We should have, I am told for certain, well before Thanksgiving, we're gonna get the Pfizer report, but I'm sick of it.
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Kerry Pickett picked up the House Minority Whip Steve Scalise.
Well, even he's calling it Soviet-style process.
I call it the secret Soviet-style impeachment coup attempt.
He called it the Soviet-style process that Speaker Pelosi and Adam Schiff, who we referred to as the compromise corrupt coward and congenital liar, and been conducting now behind closed doors for weeks.
By the way, I I get a daily update.
I have my spies.
They're called sources in media terms.
We actually do real journalism on this program that the corrupt mob will never do because they're so abusively biased and full of rage and hatred of all things Trump.
Anyway, they we've we've been highly critical.
Andy McCarthy makes a good point today.
You can't just focus in on the process, because at the end of the day, it's the substance that's gonna win the day.
And then the the it doesn't matter when they hysterically breathless breathlessly say another person didn't like what was on the call.
Well, we have the transcript.
What is the president doing?
He's saying, get to the bottom of this election interference.
And by the way, what the hell is Joe Biden uh bragging about with his son Hunter?
Now we know that, yeah, there was a quid pro quo with taxpayer dollars.
To be a Democrat, you just have to ignore that.
As if it didn't happen, because Democrats refuse to include that real scandal in any investigation.
That's how abusively biased and corrupt they all are.
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Lindsey Graham is coming up.
Senator Graham of uh South Carolina, top of the hour.
Jim Jordan, who's been on fire, and he, along with Mark Meadows and Lee Zeldon and Scott Perry and Matt Gates, anyway, well, at least those guys, the Republicans on the three committees who've taken part in the this closed door witch hunt, they are ripping these people to the so-called witnesses, you know, apart, one by one.
And the GOP, they've cross-examined many cases, significantly weakened what the Democrats were trying to get them to say.
And it's backfiring on them big time, but none of those lawmakers are going to be included when the intelligence committee uh interviews and witnesses in public take place in coming weeks.
Because you have the uh corrupt speaker of the House, then of course we have the cor compromised corrupt coward and congenital liar Adam Schiff and and company here.
They're gonna get rid of two of the three committees, the Foreign Affairs Committee and Oversight and Government Reform Committee that have been interviewing witnesses privately, and they're they're literally simultaneously having hearings at the same time, so they can't be in two places at once.
Now we also have the update today that Congressman Matt Gates, he'll join us with Jim Jordan later, along with Lindsey Graham and Bill O'Reilly today, but he filed an ethics complaint against Adam Schiffer's handling of the impeachment inquiry.
Anyway, uh I'm bringing in Chad Pergram is with us.
Now, Chad is, he works with us at Fox News, and Chad is the definitive voice on the happenings in Washington.
He should publish a book called The Hitchhiker's Guide to All Things DC, because if you need to know what a process is, or for example, the Hitchhiker's Guide to Matt Gates' ethics complaint against Schiff, he puts out these Hitchhiker's Guide updates to Fox News channel personnel, and it's full of information.
I've stolen it on more than a few occasions.
Uh, not stolen it, of course I give credit.
And but um he knows everything about every process in DC, every single nuance uh about how bills become laws and how the votes take place and resolutions take place, and uh we welcome him to the program because there's so much going on there every day just to update us.
Chad, how are you, my friend?
Good afternoon.
Or as I've been saying the past few days, I'm impeachy.
Good grief.
That's corny but funny.
Uh the lot going on there.
Tell us what's happening today.
Yeah, well, right now in the past uh 35 minutes or so, the House Rules Committee has started to prepare this resolution for the House floor tomorrow that will formalize the uh impeachment process.
Uh, you know, this is very controversial, Sean.
Obviously, Republicans, as you alluded to, don't like the process.
They think it's unfair.
What they're doing in the rules committee right now is going through and trying to amend the Democrats' resolution, uh, offer all alternatives here to say, okay, give the minority some more rights, uh, give the judiciary committee more rights, the intelligence committee, whatever.
Uh, you know, even the president and his legal counsel.
Those are the types of proposals.
Now, the way that the rules committee works, and the Republicans did it the same way to the Democrats when they were in charge, is the deck is really stacked here.
It's uh it's nine to four in favor of the Democrats.
And the Republicans, as I say, did the same thing.
So this is a good thing.
Well, with one caveat though, because uh Newt Gingrich adopted the Democrats, the Democrats' process In the impeachment of Nixon and allowed all of those things that you're mentioning and more uh and afforded that to the Democrats and the attorneys for Bill Clinton in 1998.
Right.
And that was uh a very different process.
You certainly didn't have the Intelligence Committee involved, and that's where Republicans have been very critical of the Democrats saying that they're too involved and they don't like how Schiff is handling this.
Uh what you had in 1998 is the Judiciary Committee took Ken Starr's report, and in uh middle of November of 1998, there was a hearing, House Judiciary Committee hearing, where they questioned Ken Starr, and then you had this very unique moment where David Kendall, who was President Clinton's attorney, came and he uh kind of cross-examined Ken Starr.
Uh, you know, and so if you had that scenario here, nobody knows who would question uh you know, the accuser.
Would they question the whistleblower?
Would they question Adam Schiff?
You know, that process is very unclear and very ill-defined and and not uh reminiscent of what happened in 1998.
Well, I I think this is all important because the bottom line is what you're saying is they will not adopt the same fairness and rules and considerations and due process that were given to Bill Clinton by the Republicans, by New Gingrich's Republican-led House at the time in 1998.
That's right.
Um they do go to get to the Judiciary Committee, how much opportunity does the Judiciary Committee have for open hearings and as you say, the the process, due process for the president, and then secondarily, the Judiciary Committee, inevitably, Sean, will write the articles of impeachment if it comes to that.
They will write the they're not gonna have the Intelligence Committee or the Oversight Committee do that.
That will be the Judiciary Committee's purview.
Well, we do have one Democrat warning that this is a bad idea, then that's Congressman Jeff Fan Drew, and Fox News is also reporting uh Kendra Horn from Oklahoma, Cunningham, South Carolina, Brindisi from New York, are all skeptical of the impeachment inquiry.
Um how big of a possibility of a break from the well, radical Pelosi m squad AOC Democrats do Republicans expect, if any.
We're expecting two hundred and twenty-eight years minimum on this.
You mentioned about four or five of the members uh who have been skeptical of this.
I spoke with Joe Cunningham, the freshman Democrat from South Carolina last night, who flipped uh uh a seat from from red to blue, and he indicated that he was supportive of the resolution.
But some of these other freshmen, you know, they're very vulnerable.
They're in Trump uh districts, uh districts that the president won in 2016, and then they won in 2018.
Uh, you know, Kendra Horn, you know, this could be a tough vote for her.
Certainly Van Drew.
Van Drew has been probably the most skeptical of the bunch.
And I would also mention Colin Peterson from Minnesota, who's not uh a freshman.
He's been here since 1991, but President Trump carried his district by 31 uh percentage points.
I was told late last night, Sean, that uh they only think they're gonna lose two or three uh Democrats uh on this.
And the fact that the House effectively has 431 members, that means the magic number to pass something is two sixteen.
If you're at two twenty-eight, uh you got it going away.
But you gotta imagine too, if they bring articles at some point, which I would imagine they might, then they vote again, correct?
Yes, yes.
And this is this is something that concerns a lot of Democrats here because they are are are worried that the Republicans are going to weaponize this vote against them.
In other words, I've been seeing emails all day from the NRCC, that's the National Republican Congressional Committee, the national arm in charge of getting Republicans elected to the House, and they've been going through just not those five that I've mentioned, but many others from vulnerable districts and targeting them.
They're gonna document this vote and try to boomerang this around on those members uh going into uh to 2020.
The reason some Democrats are skittish, even though they're gonna vote for this, is this has been described colloquially around the Capitol as an impeachment resolution.
They're afraid, Sean, the Democrats are that the public is going to perceive tomorrow's vote as impeaching the president, which it's not.
We're many steps away from that.
And number two, though, you know, they were told by the House Speaker, the moderate Democrats a couple of weeks ago, we're not going to have this vote.
So is this a risk for some Democrats?
They're supportive of it, but they don't like the, you know, how this is being conflated with impeachment.
You know, the language, you know, could get distorted in the uh in the view of the public.
And then we have Matt Gates uh filing the ethics complaint.
He specifically, as your Hitchhiker's Guide to Gates' ethics complaint points out, uh cites rule House Rule 23, House Rule 11, uh then other subsections of House Rule 11, 2G and 2C, if I'm not mistaken.
Uh so he's given very specific examples.
It seems like what everything that he's pointed out happened.
Um, where does this go?
Yeah, well, the so the rules committee, excuse me, the ethics committee would have to decide if this is an actual, you know, if they think there's some there there and they want to actually investigate this and and impanel an investigative subcommittee as it's called.
Uh, Rule 23, to point out to the listeners here, that regards that deals with the decorum of members, and what uh Gates is is alleging that Schiff did when he gave that kind of theatrical reading of President Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president Zelensky.
Uh Gates is arguing that that fell below the the decorum of the House, that he shouldn't have done that.
That that that that that was unbecoming of a House member.
Now that's going to be up to the you know ethics committee and then the full house if uh Schiff were to be sanctioned.
Uh you know, it's up to you know to two-step process there.
So that's a little bit up in the air.
The other area, you know, it's unclear if Gates has as much of a case here.
And here's why.
So Gates and other Republicans barged into the closed door depositions last week.
They were not members, some of these members were not members of the committees conducting them.
Now, House Rule 112G2C says that members can sit in on open hearings, open hearings.
Let's think about that for a minute, if they're not a member, but if they're going to be excluded, there has to be a full vote by the House.
Well, Sean, not to you know, split the atom too much here, but that was not a quote hearing.
And it was definitely a closed session.
So even though Gates is making that argument, uh he might not be on as firm ground with that as he might be on the uh the the issue with Rule 23 regarding the decorum of members.
All right, Chad Pergram, uh, our hitchhiker's guide to everything in Washington, D.C., sir.
Always love having you.
Thank you so much for your time.
Always glad to do it, Sean.
Thank you.
All right, 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, look at let me tell you what this is.
This is a uh let's throw everything up against the walls, sham, let's pludge in Trump.
Uh, we never got over the 2016 election.
Let's we don't have a real reason.
We didn't get what we wanted from Muller, the FBI, the House Intel, the bipartisan Senate.
Let's do this one.
And it is a hyperpartisan, unilateral subpoena power, unequal participation, secret Soviet-style impeachment poo uh coup attempt.
This is what this is.
And by the way, there will be the American people understand.
They can read the transcript.
There's nothing that anybody else needs to say.
There's no witness that we need to hear from.
And, you know, Schiff, for example, blocking key witnesses from answering Republican questions yesterday.
This resolution gives pretty much unilateral authority to the compromise, the corrupt, the coward, the congenital liar Schiff.
It gives him full power.
Democrats refused to include anything involving Hunter Biden in their Ukraine impeachment probe.
Why did Hunter Biden get paid millions?
Why did Joe Biden in a shakedown quid pro quo use taxpayer money to insist on the firing of the prosecutor that we now know was investigating his own son?
Why is that not a big deal to them?
Because they're not honest brokers.
They're not fair brokers in all of this.
Um and I'll tell you the impact on 2020.
We already see some some data emerging.
We have one new poll, hypothetical, hypothetical matchup, morning consult, politico.
Um, well, Biden's so-called lead over Trump was cut in half uh if he can ever get the nomination.
Um we have a pro-Biden super PAC in the Washington Times piece today, run by a registered foreign agent.
Oh, that's great.
We have seven and in ten American voters, though, that believe America's first agenda, they believe in it.
Seven and ten of auto workers, a Breitbart article, uh saying Democrats, they've figured out that they will destroy union jobs.
Union rank and file realize that Trump's trade deals are working for them.
And they like it because they have their the good paying career jobs uh uh at stake for all of them.
Of course they don't want this to go.
Why would they want it to go away?
They're feeding their families.
They're saving money for their retirement.
They don't need government anything.
Interesting what David Axelrod had to say.
He said Biden is in the candidate protection program.
He's running a 2020 campaign as if he were in the federal witness protection program.
Also trashing his bewildering defense of his son Hunter's business dealings in foreign countries.
They have him have him in the candidate protection program.
And he said it's like he it was headlined the zombie campaign.
I don't know if you can do that.
I don't know if you can get through a whole campaign that way.
Either he can hack it or he can't hack it.
You're worried the candidate can hurt himself talking to a reporter.
That's a bad sign.
He's right.
And all of this is behind closed doors.
They're not going to put any of this public.
They're not going to give Republicans rights here.
You know, but I'm telling you, all of this is going to work out in Trump's behalf.
And let me just give you another backdrop to this.
There's a Fox News piece out today.
A source with knowledge of John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Russian hoax has told Fox News that indictments in this case are a near certainty.
You do not impanel a grand jury at this point unless you are going to indict.
Durham is at a point where he knows he has crimes.
And now the question is how many people were involved.
And they have a pretty good idea of that group of people and what the charges can be and whether or not they can get some cooperators.
Another source telling Fox News that the Justice Department Inspector General's report, Michael Horowitz, that is forthcoming also.
I'm told now it's gonna be like a week before Thanksgiving.
All right, so that's good.
All right, let's see what that report says.
And meanwhile, Fox News learned that Durham is very interested in questioning John Brennan and James Clapper.
Uh, yeah, I think we're getting close to where this is.
The walls are beginning to cave in.
On top of that, I mean, Sidney Powell has had a wild five days in her defense of uh uh General Flynn.
I think that's about to blow up in everybody's faces, also.
And get this.
Finally, somebody is doing their job.
Chuck Grassley, Iowa.
Um, he's he decried Comey's failure in the Hillary server probe.
And guess what?
He says he's taking over.
He ripped Comey saying, You missed the key evidence in the Clinton investigation, and I'm gonna find it.
And he's seeking the identity of Hillary Clinton State Department staffers who deliberately transmitted classified information on the server.
We may actually finally get justice after all this time.
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How do you talk about an impeachment resolution?
It's not an impeachment resolution.
Standing the whistleblower is an unpatriotic action.
They shouldn't even go near that.
Oh, okay.
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Speaker and name only Pelosi.
The resolution is not an impeachment resolution.
No, it's a one-sided document that they tried to pull pull the wool over the American people's eyes.
It does nothing of what happened with Bill Clinton in 1998.
It offers none of the protections that Newt Gingrich and Republicans offered Bill Clinton in 1998, and same in the Nixon years.
It is a sham document vote that they're going to supposedly have tomorrow.
And she says outing the whistleblower is an unpatriotic action.
Well, I disagree.
I think the whistleblower, non-whistleblower, hearsay whistleblower that contacted the corrupt, the compromised fact witness, uh, which would be the coward, the congenital liar Adam Schiff.
Um, we'd like to know what the office contact was with the whistleblower.
What instructions were given?
Did they actually pick the attorney for the whistleblower non-whistleblower?
And did they tell the hearsay whistleblower what to do with the inspector general that got all of this started?
In other words, did they collude in this effort?
Because as soon as that comes up, well, you'll see that the corrup compromised cowardly Schiff, well, he's got himself an ethics problem.
Anyway, Matt Gates uh bravely today, uh, went after him in a big way.
We'll tell you more about that.
But you know, we would not have gotten this document uh from the Democrats yesterday, is as corrupt and and one-sided as it is without Senator Lindsey Graham's resolution, and he got 50 signatures on it, which is that the whole process is corrupt to begin with.
Uh, Senator, welcome to the uh program.
Uh not only was it corrupt then, I think it's more corrupt now because they're trying to create an illusion of fairness, but at the end of the day, everything still is in the hands of the compromised uh leader of this witch hunt, which is Adam Schiff.
Yeah, you're dead right.
So let's compare what they're proposing tomorrow with what happened with Clinton and Nixon.
There's never been an intel committee involved in impeachment for a reason.
So under this resolution, the Intel committee is the lead investigative committee.
The president's lawyer is not entitled to participate in the intel hearings.
Intel committee will send a report to judiciary, the damage will be done in the intel committee.
The president is locked out from having legal representation, and Republicans on the Intel committee cannot call witnesses unless Schiff agrees.
It's completely different than what happened to Clinton.
It's completely different than what happened to Nixon.
And the goal of this thing is to try to legitimize an unfair process.
It's still unfair.
This is a sham.
This is really a crumb of DuPros, not even uh due process, not even a half a loaf.
And let me tell you, Democrats who vote for this, you're voting for a process that would destroy every president in the future if you legitimize this.
It's not an Andy McCarthy uh writing on National Review Online makes a great admonition, and that is okay, the process is important, but at the end of the day, if they had the goods on Trump, the process or how unfair the process was in the end would not impact what the feeling of the American people are.
And I I'm watching the media and the Democrats.
Wow, we got another person that is saying they didn't like the transcript.
But at the end of the day, Senator, we got the transcript.
We don't need to hear from anybody.
Their opinions really, as as smart and great as they might be, don't matter, do they?
No, they don't, because I can the most transparent president, maybe in my lifetime, it's been Donald Trump.
He gave a million documents to Mueller.
Everybody around him testified.
I don't want to be technical.
He gave a million five documents.
But who's a white split hair is among friends, right?
Yeah, right.
He allowed his own attorney, the White House counsel to be interviewed on and on and on.
And he releases the transcript of the phone call.
So the lieutenant colonel, I don't question his service to our country.
He's entitled to his opinion about the phone call.
I'm entitled to mine.
The phone call to me is absolutely fine.
I find no fault in the phone call.
I've yet to find anything to suggest that the president did anything wrong regarding the Ukraine.
We give these people like 400 million dollars a year.
It's okay to ask about corruption because they're on the receiving end of a bunch of money.
That's his job, the president's job.
So the Colonel's view of the phone call is his view.
I can tell you right now, there's not one Republican, and I mean one, that I think would vote for impeachment in the Senate based on the phone call.
Not one.
Kevin McCarthy is warning that impeachment will cost the Democrats their house majority.
I agree with him.
Your thoughts.
Probably because what happens here is that after Mueller, they won't avoid the election.
They're sore losers.
Mueller spent what?
25 million dollars, 40 FBI agents, a couple of years, uh, nothing, no collusion, no obstruction of justice, no prosecutable offenses.
Now they got this phone call BS, and it is B.S. Read the damn thing for yourself.
The president of the United States, in my view, had a very good phone call with the president of Ukraine.
Now, what's the backlash?
I think the backlash is that most people want us to work on their problems, try to make their lives better.
They want us to work together.
It's pretty hard for the president to work with Democrats who are every week of every month trying to impeach him.
As I say every second of every minute of every hour of every 24 hour day, week, month, and yeah.
Listen, this this and there was a great piece out.
I don't know if you saw by Byron York that two hours after the president's inaugurated, they actually built an impeachment site for Donald Trump.
Two days after he was elected, the word impeachment was coming out of the mouths of people.
That's how sick this has been.
But when you get to the substance, now all of a sudden we know from a Ukrainian court decision, and we know there's a great political article from January 11, 2017, and Ukraine admits it that they interfered in our 2016 elections.
The president, after three years of Democrats saying this is important, we got to get to the bottom of it, is asking the Ukrainian president to get to the bottom of it.
To me, he is faithfully executing the laws of the country by doing that.
Not only was it a perfect call, it was the right thing to do constitutionally in upholding a sworn oath.
I think every Republican in the United States Senate believes that the phone call is not an impeachable offense.
Some people find it troubling.
I found about 90% of Obama's administration troubling.
If troubling equates to impeachment, we're never going to have another president serve a full term.
The bottom line is I'm not troubled by the phone call.
I thought it was a good phone call.
You got to remember this.
The one person that Joe Biden wanted fired in all the Ukraine happened to be the prosecutor investigating a company his son was a board member of without any real knowledge or background of the subject matter.
If a Republican had pulled this stunt, people would be all over us.
So Durham is looking at this aspect.
Uh I'm I'm I'm I'm sure.
I want to get to that in a second, because I have an update.
Yeah.
All right.
Here's part two of it.
Now we have Joe Biden on tape.
There was a quid pro quo.
Joe Biden admits to a quid pro quo.
Right.
Uh you're not getting the billion dollars.
You got something.
Unless you fire the prosecutor.
Unless you fire the okay.
Son of a bee, they fired him.
All right.
They got their billion.
He he he had a quid pro quo.
Then you find out, well, why would a vice president of the United States of America want a prosecutor in Ukraine fired?
Well, we find out that his son, he does an interview.
You know, um, he got paid millions of dollars.
Any background in energy, no.
Any background in Ukraine?
No.
Oil, no, gas, no.
Uh, why do you think you got the job?
I don't know.
You think it's because your last name is Biden?
Probably.
Um now, Democrats refuse to include this.
Now, to me, that is buying favor, influence.
The same in China with Hunter and Joe.
Why is that not being investigated by the media and the Democrats?
Well, the the media is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party when it comes to Trump.
Just look what you just described.
You described a situation where you had a sitting vice president threatening to withhold aid to a country unless a particular person was fired, a prosecutor.
That prosecutor was investigating company that the vice president's son served as a board member.
That fact pattern in Republican hands would blow up the entire nation.
They excuse this.
They say, well, the French and the Germans believe the prosecutor was corrupt.
I don't know if they did or not.
And the prosecutor may have been corrupt, but they they marginalize this, they write it off as a non-event because it Gets in the way of the narrative about Trump.
The goal is to get Trump.
They don't give a damn how they get him.
They don't care what kind of procedures they use.
And the media is dead when it comes to the Trump administration, covering him fairly.
They have died.
I said journalism was dead in 2007.
I had no idea how right I was.
Let me ask you this, because I got to be honest, Senator.
Um, and yeah, I'm just a little sick and tired of waiting for the Horowitz report on Pfizer abuse.
Now, we hear it's coming in the next week or two.
I hope to for goodness sake, I hope it happens.
But here's what I want to ask you.
Do you stand by the Grassley Graham memo that the bulk of information, the FISA application was Hillary's bought and paid for Russian dossier put together by Christopher Steele?
Yeah, I mean, uh, according to McCabe, it was the without the uh dossier, there'd be no warrants issued.
That's what he said under oath.
Correct.
So let's let's play that out.
So I'm gonna ask Horror Woodson.
And you know, it's coming.
I know you get tired of hearing that, but he's done.
They're looking at the uh classification part of it now.
So the first thing I would ask Horwiz, near the first anyway, is the dossier.
Let's look at it.
How much of it is verified today?
None of it.
None of it is verified by Intel sources.
Some of it's verified by media reports that were leaked by the Intel community.
All the salacious stuff is unverified to this day.
So if 90% of it's unverified to this day, how could you get a warrant?
Let me ask you this then.
Okay.
Now we know again that when the FBI finally did get around to verifying it, they were able to disprove over 90% of it.
Well, this is the top of a Pfizer warrant says verified.
So that means, and how many warnings were the DOJ, I know of at least two three, and and and the FBI given not to trust the steel dossier.
How many warnings did they have?
Well, all I know in August, uh the the guy with his wife, um Bruce Orr, a Bruce Orr.
Okay, Bruce Orr put the system on notice.
This guy really is after Trump.
August of 2016.
Yeah, yeah, still goes to the State Department in October.
Yeah, they've got a political bias.
So there's a couple I can think of off the top of my head.
But here's the point.
They made no effort to verify the dossier until after they applied for the warrant.
But they used it as the bulk of information.
But here's the other point.
We also know, yeah, they finally got around to to investigating the veracity of it.
They disproved over 90%.
They proved none of it.
To this day.
To this day.
And in an interrogatory in Great Britain.
Right.
The author of the dirty Russian dossier that Hillary paid for, Christopher Stanley.
I couldn't verify it.
Yeah.
I have no idea if any of it's true.
That's what he said.
I have no idea.
You're like the only guy in the country that knows this stuff cold, but it's all gonna come out and I'm a loser.
I know say it.
Hannity or a loser.
No, you're not.
So here's the point.
We're trying to prove to the public that this warrant was obtained uh outside normal procedures.
It was obtained in a way that's dangerous to the future of the country.
If you have a political document paid for by a political party, a foreign agent hired by a political party against the nominee of either party, you should take some care and attention to it, wouldn't you think?
If you open up a counterintelligence investigation on a major nominee of either party, shouldn't you take some care and time and attention to make sure you know what you're doing?
That's a good point.
I cannot believe that they opened up a counterintelligence investigation against the Republican nominee this shoddy.
I cannot believe they got warrants against his campaign associates with a procedure this shoddy.
I want to ask you about that on the other side.
Lindsay Graham is with us, 800 941 Sean Tolfrey, telephone number.
Uh Jim Jordan, Matt Gates.
By the way, Matt Gates today filed an ethics investigation uh on the uh corrupt compromise shift.
Uh we'll get to that.
Bill O'Reilly coming up, 800 941 Sean is on number as we continue with Senator Lindsey Graham on the other side.
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Alright, as we continue with South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, we did have your counterpart.
We love Tim Scott.
He's such a great guy.
Uh, you got great peeps down in uh in South Carolina.
Trey Gowdy's down there.
Um let me ask you this.
You mentioned you mentioned um the Durham investigation.
Uh there is now a number of former high-level this is on Fox News.com that the Durham investigation, Obama administration officials could fall into the investigative crosshairs of a U.S. attorney John Durham, and basically an insider saying indictments are all but certain.
I'm not going to go out on that limb.
Let's see what he has in the end.
But I want to say this.
You can't have a counterintelligence investigation, Senator, without it being approved of by the president of the United States.
Is that correct?
I don't see how you can have one that he's not knowledgeable of.
So at the can you imagine this that the nominee of a major party is being in you know counterintelligence investigation of their campaign that the sitting president doesn't know about?
Well, struck in pain said it in a text that the White House wants to be updated every step of the way.
Yeah, and and here's the point.
Did Brennan and Clapper, what role did they play in the counterintelligence investigation?
Who pushed the dossier to be put into the intelligence assessment if it's still not verified?
There's so many questions about Papatopoulos.
If you've had a photo with President Trump, you spent more time with President Trump than Papadopoulos did.
So the whole thing just poor guy just smells bad.
And I think I gotta let you, I gotta leave it here, but I've got to tell you something.
I want this audience to understand, you gotta listen to what Senator Graham is saying more closely because he's giving away more, but he has to speak in code.
Um listen, I'm gonna take you, Gowdy, and our good friend Senator Scott.
We're gonna go to Hall Steakhouse one day, and I can't wait to take y'all there.
I can't wait to go.
Thanks.
Take care.
All right, Senator, thanks for all you're doing.
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Gives unprecedented power to the intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff.
That's deeply troubling to me for a few reasons.
First, Adam Schiff has proven in this process that he cannot adhere to the fundamental principles of fairness.
And second, and I would say most important for my work today is that Adam Schiff has violated the ethical rules of the House of Representatives.
Rule 23, Clause 1 and 2 of the Code of Conduct for members of the House of Representatives requires that we engage in conduct that brings credibility on the House and that we don't impair the credibility of the House.
When Adam Schiff engaged in a theatrical retelling of President Trump's conversation with President Zelensky to deceive and disorient the American people, he acted in a way that was not consistent with House rules and was not consistent with House ethics.
And so now on the eve of a vote that will give unprecedented power to someone who does not deserve it.
Today I'm going to go file an ethics complaint against Adam Schiff for violating Rule 23 of the House.
Adam Schiff has also violated Rule 11 of the House.
Rule 11 requires that you if you are going to expel a member of Congress from a hearing who does not intend to participate by asking questions, that you are required to hold a vote on that measure.
Adam Schiff held no such vote when he expelled me multiple times from simply being able to observe what the heck was going on.
And so right now, I'm going to go to the ethics committee and I'm going to file an ethics complaint against Adam Schiff.
Because if House Democrats tomorrow are going to give this man an unprecedented amount of power in this process, they're going to know exactly how he has departed from the rules of the House and how he has fallen short of the ethical standards that should apply to this institution.
Chairman Schiff has prevented the witness from answering certain questions we have during the deposition.
Who, what, when, where, why?
He asked those questions.
When we asked the whistleblower who he spoke to after important events in July, Adam Schiff says, No, no, no, we're not gonna let him answer that question.
This is not classified.
He tells us that the witness has their counsel there, they're the lawyer there.
They don't need Adam Schiff being chairman and lawyer, but that's in effect what happened today.
All right, that was uh Matt Gates and Jim Jordan, two of the Freedom Caucus well warriors that are out there, thank God for the Freedom Caucus.
Uh, and we have Congressman Gates.
He has filed an ethics complaint against the compromise corrupt coward congenital liar that is uh Adam Schiff, uh, the liar that you know said for three years, all right, we've got all the evidence on Russia collusion.
No, you don't, you got nothing.
Uh very specifically, he points out House Rules 23, 11, etc.
Uh, and that gives all the specificity and details you just heard there.
That was also Jim Jordan correctly, uh, and he added to the point that the impeachment vote won't change a thing.
They're putting lipstick on a pig, and how the whole system has been corrupt from the get-go, but on top of all of that, the substance of it, there's no reason to impeach the president because the president on that phone call was trying to get to the bottom of what a Ukrainian court told us and what politico told us was Ukrainian election interference in 2016.
And even though the mob and the media and the Democrats don't want to deal with it, well, we have Joe Biden on tape using taxpayer money in a quid pro quo shakedown.
You don't get the billion unless you fire him in six hours.
Son of a B, they fired him.
And then, of course, we have Hunter Biden, no experience, millions of dollars.
Why?
I don't know.
Do you think maybe it has to do with the fact that your dad is the second most powerful elected official in America, the vice president of the United States?
Probably.
Okay, if that was the Trumps, you think the media mob and Democrats would want to impeach him.
Anyway, joining us now, Jim Jordan of Ohio Congressman, uh, Freedom Caucus member, also caucus member Matt Gates.
Matt, we'll start with you and this ethics filing today.
And on substance, you're a thousand percent correct.
Well, thank you so much, Sean.
Adam Schiff is going to prepare a report that the American people cannot rely on.
And Nancy Pelosi is giving this unprecedented amount of power to Adam Schiff, and he doesn't deserve it.
The rules of conduct of the House of Representatives say that no member is allowed to act in a way that that impugns the credibility of the House of Representatives.
I cannot imagine something uh more damaging to the credibility of the House of Representatives than Adam Schiff in an effort to overturn the will of the American people, reading a fake false transcript to try to pollute the minds of the good folks in this country as to the conduct of our president.
It is very clear from reading the transcript, from hearing what President Zelinsky said in his own words, that President Trump did nothing improper.
He put no uh in unethical pressure on the Ukrainians or illegal pressure on the Ukrainians.
He was doing his job to root out corruption that stemmed directly from the Obama Biden administration and the Biden family.
So I think that Adam Schiff should not be subject to a lower standard of ethical conduct than every other member of Congress.
And I think the ethics should committee should have to rule on this question.
And I want Adam Schiff's unethical conduct in the minds of those 30 plus Democrats who represent districts that Donald Trump won, they go to the floor tomorrow and either vote to end this absurd process and start working on lowering prescription drug prices, passing the USMCA, getting an infrastructure bill, helping rebuild our vibrant economy, or are they gonna continue the investigation and impeachment strategy that leaves the American people holding the back?
And Jim Jordan, I thought you were fabulous in your comments and the added comments, you know, putting lipstick on a pig uh were dead on accurate.
But you know, you went into detail at this press conference yesterday about how, you know, this compromise corrupt coward who won't come on this program, known congenital liar, uh Chef.
Um, you you know, you pointed out you never saw anything like this.
Devin Nunes said the same thing.
When when you asked who he spoke to after important events in July, no, no, no, we're not going to let him answer that question.
What is that?
No, I it's it's crazy.
I'm not I've not seen anything like this where you have a witness, he's under subpoena, it's Adam Schiff's witness, but only Adam Schiff gets his his questions answered when we asked this witness very important questions like who did you speak to after these important events that took place in the month, month of July, and he was not allowed to answer those questions.
And here's the bottom line.
Adam Schiff is running this secret unfair process uh process in the basement of the Capitol.
He's preventing the witness from answering certain questions because there are four fundamental facts that have always been there and will not change.
Matt said this.
We have the call transcript, no quid pro quo whatsoever.
We have the two individuals who were on the call, President Trump and President Zelensky saying no pressure, no pushing, everything was fine.
In fact, they're talking about draining the swamp in Ukraine like President Trump is draining the swamp here in Washington.
And then we have the fact that Ukraine did not know at the time of the call that aid it had even been held up.
And finally, the most important fact tell me what Ukraine did to get the aid turned back on.
Tell me what they did.
Did Zelensky do a press conference?
Did he do a statement?
Did he did he say well we're gonna do certain best?
None of that ever happened.
And most maybe most importantly, the one uh uh testimony we are allowed to talk about, Special Envoy Ambassador Volcker, he told us in his in his uh uh deposition and his transcript, he told us he confirmed those four fundamental facts.
And because those facts will not change, have not changed, those four fundamental facts added to the case.
Go through these again slowly so everyone understands exactly what you're saying.
The transcript, we have it, as Matt said.
You can read the transcript, tell me what conditions were placed on there, what quit quit pro quo was there.
There wasn't any.
You have the two individuals who formed that transcript call, the two guys on the call, President Trump, President Zelensky.
Both have said, no, there was no pressure, no pushing, no, no, no conditions whatsoever.
At the time of the call, July 25th, the the Ukrainians didn't even know aid had been withheld.
And then finally, the fourth fact is they didn't do anything to turn the aid back on when it was turned back on in on September 11th.
So those facts are so fundamental to this idea.
Because remember, when Pelosi and Schiff started this, they said this call transcript is going to show that there was this quid pro quo, that that's that's how they were pitching this whole thing.
And then the call comes out, and even some Democrat chairman said, well, there wasn't a quid pro quo on the call, but but but we got to keep looking.
There are still problems, and that's what this is all about, stirring up whatever dust they can stir up, but there is nothing there.
Well, I mean, we know there's nothing there in the call.
If anything, what I read in the transcript is clear, and that is the president is faithfully executing his sworn duty, constitutional oath, which is very obvious.
I thought all these people were upset about foreign election interference in the 2016 election.
But yet they ignored the dirty Clinton dossier.
That they had that little little hypocrisy going on at the same time.
And we also know that they ignored In you know, all of this as it relates to Hunter Biden.
How do you avoid, how do you say it's a conspiracy theory when Joe Biden's on tape and Hunter Biden's on tape?
And if this was the Trumps, you know that this would be the biggest story.
Uh, and they probably have a case at that point.
But the hypocrisy is is breathtaking to me, Matt.
Well, here here, Sean.
Yeah, this is Matt.
I I would tell you there is not a single American, including Hunter Biden, who believes that Hunter Biden was hired for his merit.
Even Hunter Biden admitted when he was interviewed that his last name likely had a great deal to do with why he was being engaged in this project.
But you speak of hypocrisy.
Democrats, while clutching their pearls, would have the American people believe that this is all about critical aid to our important ally, the Ukraine, and Donald Trump abused his power by blocking his aid.
You know what, Sean?
We got 250 million dollars in aid to the Ukraine in the National Defense Authorization Act that Democrats won't bring up, won't negotiate, and won't send to the president because they're so focused on impeachment and investigation.
This is the same Democratic Party that is issued more subpoenas than they have past bills.
And so it the the lack of sincerity, the hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
It's a good thing.
We got uh Tom Brokaw literally saying on uh the Roswell Rachel Maddow Area 51 conspiracy channel, MSDNC.
We got Brokaw actually admitting they don't have the goods on President Trump in this impeachment push.
Uh-oh, that's a problem.
Then you've got this one house Democrat, Jeff Van Drew says, uh, I'm I imagine I'm not voting for this, he said.
He said, Oh, obviously he's going to be impeached here.
It'll go to the Senate, and the Senate is going to be vindicated, so we'll have the same president, the same candidate who's now been vindicated.
And then he added, I'm not sure what everybody wants as a result here.
And I also think we spent a lot of money and a lot of time and haven't been able to get a lot of things done.
Now, it also goes on in the Fox News article to say from Oklahoma, you've got Democratic Representative Kendra Horn and you got Joe Cunningham from South Carolina and Anthony uh Brindisi from New York.
Um, they're beginning to say, what's going on?
I've heard Jim Jordan behind the scenes.
You've got about 30 Democrats saying this is a dumb idea.
Are they going to get their arms twisted and go with this?
Well, remember, Sean, the reason you're you're seeing this from some of the Democrats is in less than 13 months, the American people are going to walk into that voting booth, and at the top of the ticket, they're going to punch the button in these districts these guys are uh from, they're gonna punch the punch the box and mark the box for Donald Trump.
And the very next question down below is who do you want representing you in Congress?
And do you think that same person just voted for Donald Trump is then going to turn around and vote for someone who moved to impeach the president we all elected again, just the a few years ago and the election coming in through?
That's the question that they're facing.
And to this point that Matt just talked about hypocrisy, here's the biggest hypocrisy of all.
Five weeks ago when this whole charade started, Adam Schiff says, we're going to need to hear from the whistleblower.
He was talking about the whistleblower.
And today he says, no, no, no, we don't need to.
New York Times wrote a big piece.
We don't need to hear from him.
What has changed in the five weeks?
What changed Adam Schiff's mind?
Namely, we learned that Adam Schiff is the only person who knows who this guy is, and that his staff met with him, and Adam Schiff was misleading us when he told us that he had no contact with the whistleblower.
That's the only thing it changed.
So you got 435 members of Congress, and only one of them, only one of them knows who the identity of this individual is.
And when you look at the whistleblower's complaint, he talks about the handful of other U.S. officials who he talked to who formed the basis of that complaint.
And Adam Schiff and his staff are the only ones who know who that person is and who those handful of people are.
We're not allowed to know.
The American people are now not allowed to know.
We're not allowed to bring them in and question them.
That is as crazy and hypocrisy uh uh hypocritical as I've ever seen.
But that is exactly what is going on.
But in stay right there, the whole unfair process.
All right, as we continue, Jim Jordan, Congressman of Ohio, Matt Gates had to drop our bring us back inside what is going on in the secret Soviet Union style impeachment coup attempt.
And and you might want to comment on this quote resolution that is anything but fair.
It is go ahead.
No, you're right, Sean.
It's not fair.
It just it's it's trying to put a ribbon on a on a on a you know an unfair process, a process that denies the minority rights, denies us the ability to see the transcript unless we make a special appointment.
Even guys on the committee um make a special appointment.
You've got to have a Democrat staffer looking over your shoulder as you're reading the transcript, um, denies the president type of due process.
So this is this is as unfair as it gets.
I think the American people instinctively understand that.
American people get fairness.
And then in this room, uh, again, we we talked about this a little bit ago, but the the the biggest concern was yesterday when Adam Schiff prevented the witness from answering our questions.
And it was simple questions, basic questions about who did you talk to, the kind of questions that get asked in every single deposition ever done, but he prevented us from doing that.
And um You know, here Adam Schiff gets to call the witnesses, and then when he's in, only he gets asked the question.
Tell me how that's fair.
And I think the American people, as I said, understand it and do this whole charade.
Well, thank God there are guys like you there.
You've been a rock star in this.
Uh, we can't thank you enough.
We'll get regular updates.
We appreciate what you do, Sean.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Well, I think the thing people should be asking themselves, especially if you're a Democrat and you're on the Judiciary Committee, is where is Jerry Nadler?
Nobody's seen him for like two and a half months.
He's like the missing man in action.
So clearly, Schiff and the Intelligence Committee Democrats, they've they've completely obliterated the Intelligence Committee.
Uh it's now known as the Impeachment Committee.
So, you know, that resolution uh is just more of the same.
Uh and I'll tell you, you mentioned that you haven't seen this in your you know many years in in radio and TV.
I have never in my life seen anything like what happened today.
I mean, they've been bad in most of these depositions, but to interrupt us continually to coach the witness to decide whether or not what what we're gonna be able to ask the witness.
I mean, we don't even get any witnesses at this point, and it doesn't like look like we're gonna get any ever.
But to not let us ask questions, I've I've never ever had that.
And to see someone coach a witness, you know, this isn't the first time that you know Schiff's very good at coaching witnesses, remember?
He also met with the whistleblower.
So this is this is just unprecedented.
All right, news roundup information overload hour.
That was uh Congressman Devin Nunes on Hannity last night explaining there's never been a process like this.
To me, process is meaningless, except that what we have here is you've you've got a compromised corrupt coward, congenital liar in charge of this now new witch hunt based on a transcript.
I mean, they get they get all giddy and they get all excited.
We got another witness that didn't like the transcript, they didn't like it.
Um and they they were scared by it.
This is huge.
Um, we get to read the transcript, and what I read is a president of the United States doing what they said liberals said that they wanted, faithfully executing the laws of the land, asking for information about Ukrainian election interference, because we have a Ukrainian court decision that says that their government was involved in election interference to help Hillary Clinton.
Similarly, I I doubt very much that if it was Donald Trump involved in a quid pro quo, a shakedown, withholding today, he's going to withhold a billion taxpayer dollars unless you fire this guy, this prosecutor, you got six hours.
You're not getting the billion dollars.
You got six hours.
And well, son of a bee, they did it.
And we find out that prosecutors investigating his son.
Anyway, here to weigh in on all of this.
Bill O'Reilly, uh, his new book is going gangbusters.
It's Donald Trump, the United States of Trump, how the president really sees America, Mr. O'Reilly.
You know, I bet days like today, you might wish you maybe you're glad.
Who the hell wants to be in this every day?
It's madness.
I'm not paying attention.
I'm uh getting my costume ready for uh Halloween.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are you dressing as this Halloween?
Bill O'Reilly scared everybody.
Adam Schiff and I gotta get I gotta get the shirt with the collar too big.
So uh it's not not easy to get one of those.
So I'm going as Adam Schiff.
I'm gonna scare the kids.
You gotta oh, you scare the crap out of 'em.
By the way, did you ever hear Schiff on tape talking to a guy that he thinks is a Russian?
No, I I don't really follow him, but uh I can imagine.
All right, Bill.
Now remember, he was the guy that was lying.
I've got all the evidence.
I got all the evidence.
We got all the evidence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got him.
I yeah, sure.
I heard that part of it.
Well, you did he you heard the tape of him saying he thinks he's talking to a Russian.
It's a pr it's a Russian prankster.
And he literally let me play.
He's getting pranked, sure.
Uh met with Trump uh in in uh New York at some point after the 2013 Miss Universe.
Uh yes.
Absolutely.
And she got uh compromising materials on trout after their uh short relations.
Okay.
And what's the nature of the compromise?
Well, there were a picture of naked Trump.
Okay.
And so Putin was made aware uh of the uh the availability of the compromising material.
Yes, of course, uh Buzawa shared those materials with uh Sobchik and Subshark shares those materials with uh Putin because she's uh goddaughter of Putin and let me let me jump in.
Compromising uh Marty Areza, but it's the nature of the compromise um pics as the naked to them.
Does Vladimir know he's colleagues colluding with with a Russian?
It sounds like Rocky and his friends starring Adam does.
Yeah.
Hey, if you come to my house trick-or-treating uh tomorrow and you live near me.
Yeah, I'm I'm giving out in addition to candy, I'm giving out impeach the media bumper stickers, which you can get on Bill O'Reilly.com.
Are you really are you really a big stack of impeached the uh media bumper stickers?
Yeah, true.
We've got them on Bill O'Reilly.com giving it.
Trigger treat.
Yeah, everyone's gonna be rushing to Bill's house for uh.
But I get good treats too.
I I mean, I'm not a cheap guy.
But anyway, look, um I tell my uh my audience on Bill O'Reilly.com and in my columns and stuff, I said, Look, um this isn't doing the country any good.
So I want everybody to just take a step back.
So get out of the ideology of it, get out of the corruption of it in a sense that it's not fair.
Everybody knows it's not fair.
New uh poll out today, uh USA Today poll.
Um half the country says uh leave it alone.
Not we don't want him in peace to say walk away, walk away.
That's a lot for uh for a poll that uh has more Democrats than Republicans in it.
So anyway, um it's not doing the country any good.
Um and it's gonna hurt you because the president needs to get the China deal done.
He needs to uh continue um promoting uh the United States economically, get the EU deal done, and he's gotta deal with this every single day, and this is not hurting.
This is not helping you, the American person.
So unless they have something, which at this point they don't, all right, let it go until you do have something.
You have something, Americans will pay attention.
Right now, you don't have anything.
When you read the transcript, I mean that's why all you know, parading in one guest after another, well, behind closed doors, and then selectively leaking.
I I'm look, my sources are in the room.
I'm getting a full accounting every single day.
What's going on there?
And ninety-five percent of this is going really badly for the Democrats.
But they it's like they can't they can't stop themselves.
They they had sounded the the five percent that is damning to Trump is leaked immediately, and the media just you know voraciously puts it on page one and then leaves with it on cable news.
But I think everybody knows the fixes in.
I think everybody knows this is not fair.
It's not American, it's not how we operate.
Um, and so it's going to help Donald Trump unless something else comes out.
But my theory now, after listening to your sound bites at the top of the hour here, is if Joe Biden is elected president, the day after he's sworn in, he has to be impeached for what he did in Ukraine, right?
Bingo.
You're gonna impeach him.
So Biden goes out to the parade in Washington and uh you know he waves and everything, goes in the Oval Office, and the next day uh he served with impeachment.
Well, we'll be you and I will be on the parade rue.
You can you can wear your Halloween costume of Schiff and I'll be holding up a sign impeach Biden.
How's that?
I mean, but the look, think about it.
If what Donald Trump did is impeachable by trying to get the Ukraine to cooperate in a Justice Department investigation, which is real, then Joe Biden telling the Ukraine you're not gonna get a billion unless you fire somebody, that's impeachable too, is it not?
What's why why wouldn't it be Mr. O'Reilly?
There's too much logic in what you're saying.
But look, let's get down into the substance of it here.
All right.
When you read the transcript, you read the transcript.
So for three years, the Democrats said, Whoa, foreign election interference can't happen.
Well, we have political reporting January 11th, 2017, and we have a Ukrainian court saying that the and the Ukraine admits they admit it that they helped Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump.
That's election interference.
The president's saying, okay, well, we've been through three three years of this crap.
Let's get to the bottom of it.
And I don't know how does the media bifurcate simple basic fundamental truth of Joe Biden on tape.
Well, Joe Biden's on tape admitting you shaked down with our tax dollars.
I mean, you know that.
There's no fairness.
Look, I I mean so I write in the United States of Trump that the president's obsessed with finding out exactly what happened in the 2016 election.
All right.
So he, as the chief law enforcement officer of the land, wants to know how did this happen?
How did they Trump up hard upon all this Russian collusion stuff?
So I'm gonna ask my Justice Department to find out.
Certainly a legitimate certainly.
Yeah.
So then he says to the Rush to the Ukraine president, hey, I'd like you to cooperate.
And if Joe Biden's involved, because Biden was a point man to Ukraine, we'd like to know about it.
All right.
Isn't that legitimate?
Wouldn't anyone do that?
Yes, the answer is yes.
And then, you know, the the only deficit to Donald Trump, and I told him this personally, eye to eye when I was talking to him, because in the United States of Trump, I have five interviews with him, and he is crazed about finding out who's behind because he thinks Barack Obama, I'll tell your audience.
President Trump thinks Barack Obama's behind this Russian collusion thing.
I think I will let me let me add to that.
Remember Andy McCarthy's new book.
You can't have a counterintelligence investigation, and that was what Operation Crossfire Hurricane was without it beginning with a president in the Oval Office.
That was Barack Obama.
But to understand the anger and the obsession that Donald Trump has with this, you have to understand that he believes it was Obama who was behind it, and that it's his quest in life to expose that.
That's what this whole story is about.
That's what it's about.
Donald Trump wanting to expose Barack Obama for trying to undermine his campaign and his presidency.
That's it.
And when the American people understand that, when they come to the realization that this is what it is, then the only way to resolve it is to let the Justice Department present the facts of the case.
This guy Lee Smith, we'll have him on the program tomorrow, has the definitive behind the scenes story of all of this.
And it allows it.
And it's the it's called The Plot Against the President.
Yes.
Now and I read I read a big excerpt on that book actually last night.
I read it too.
It's great.
And the book aside, and people read it if they want to read it.
But for me, I want to know what uh what the Justice Department's gonna present.
I want to know what they've got.
Because once they do that, all of this the impeachment, the Russian collusion, the press hating Trump, all of it will then be exposed, and the facts will drive what happens next.
Well, I I gotta take a break here, but I will say this.
Everything that we have uncovered on this show and on Hannity the last two and a half years is all true.
Everything that we've reported, everything.
Then you're gonna get a Pulitzer Prize.
Okay, O'Reilly.
By the way, you put the people put on your costume as the cowardly shift, and you instantly become a liar like he is a congenital liar.
I'm gonna put you up for it.
Oh, that's the yeah, O'Reilly's nominating Hannity.
That's gonna go real far, Bill.
Just stay in that fantasy Halloween land you're in right now.
All right, uh quick break more with O'Reilly on the other side.
800-941 Sean Tollfrey number.
We continue with Bill O'Reilly.
His uh book is doing uh really well.
Uh uh huge bestseller on the New York Times list in the United States of Trump, how the president really sees America.
All right, let's say these idiots impeach him, because I think they're gonna.
And then let's say we know he's gonna the Senate's never gonna convict him.
I I don't think the Senate will even bring it up.
I think they'll dismiss it because the process is so corrupt and one-sided.
Okay, how does it, in your view, impact 2020?
Well, it helps Trump.
If there's nothing more than that what they have now, which is not impeachable, and they go through the process, um, and then in the Senate dismisses it or votes to not convict, um, then Trump's gonna have a huge campaign issue.
And he'll go around and he'll say, Look, the other party not only are they crazy socialists, but they're corrupt and they try to undermine my administration, so don't reward them.
It's a my analysis is this.
I don't think Trump has lost anybody that voted for him in 2016.
I think that now that he his policies, his tax cuts, his promises, originalists, uh he's building the wall, trade deals, defeating ISIS, taking out Baghdadi, all of that combined, he's done it all.
Um and seven million more Americans are working, and seven million are off of food stamps, and millions are out of poverty.
I think he's got a shot at a much bigger victory.
Again, if he doesn't get in his own way in some of these issues.
How much time do we have?
30 seconds.
Okay.
The president needs to hold regular sessions where he addresses the American people one-on-one.
Not through the media, not yelling with a helicopter.
And he needs to explain exactly why he does what he does.
If he uses those fireside chats, I think you're right, he'll win.
Uh the United States of Trump or Bill O'Reilly.com, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores everywhere.
When are you going to uh Huntington?
I guess I'm gonna introduce you or give a 10 minute spiel or something.
So I have guys that are gonna kidnap you and take you there.
December 15th Sunday.
December 15th, Paramount and Huntington, Hannity O'Reilly and others gonna be a blast.
All right, Bill, thanks.
Quick break, your call straight ahead as we continue.
Hi, I'm Edward and Rhett with Campus Reform.
Today we're at Georgetown University to find out if students think Trump should get credit for the killing of ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi.
All right, so do you think President Trump deserves credit for the killing of the ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi yesterday?
Oh God.
Um personally, I don't think so, but I also have not read up a lot about it.
How about you?
Do you think he deserves credit?
Donald Trump.
I'm gonna take that as a no.
Do you think he deserves credit for that?
No, I don't really know much about that, so I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, I guess it happened despite him.
So you know, he didn't f it up, too bad.
And I guess in like the fight against terror, it's good.
It's a considered victory, right?
Like in the fight against terrorists and stuff, so right?
Yeah.
But not really wants to know.
Nobody wants to celebrate the life.
No one wants anyone to kill anyone either.
I mean I think it's the troops who actually did the real work that deserve the credit.
I think that the U.S. military and our armed forces deserve credit.
The troops do.
He is the commander-in-chief, so he gets kind of the credit.
But intelligence agencies and the troops actually did it.
They give us the credit.
I feel like any president could have killed an ISIS leader.
Like Obama killed Osama bin Laden, like, you know, like I feel like anyone can do it.
Like, it's just like about who has like the willpower, I guess.
Who's like in charge at the moment?
Yeah.
All right.
Thanks to our friends at campus reform.
Um, uh, you know, it really is amazing.
You got the world's worst terrorist at this moment, Baghdad.
You know, we've watched the the brutality of the terrorism of of ISIS.
We've watched the beheadings.
Well, uh, look, I I've watched them.
You can see some of them.
They're still on, you can still get some of them online.
I know most people don't want to watch it.
And I'll be honest, if you don't have the stomach for it, don't do it.
I watch it because I I want to understand the evil behind it.
It is at a level that I don't, I just don't think that good people can comprehend because good people don't really understand that evil, they don't understand evil.
Why do they not understand evil?
Because it's not their nature.
And the idea that people wake up in the morning and they're thinking about have no problem cutting people's heads off.
It's it's something that most normal people can't identify with, or putting somebody in a cage and burning them to death, or wiping out the Yasidis and the Christians in northern Iraq the way ISIS did.
Uh taking women and children as sex slaves.
All of this chronicled and happened.
Hundreds of thousands of people dying.
Uh I understand.
Okay, maybe when you look at bin Laden, you're looking at somebody, he hit the trade center.
Okay, got it.
3,000 Americans died.
The worst attack on U.S. soil.
And thank God we got him.
I said at the time, listen, I give Obama credit.
He pulled the trigger.
He made the call.
It was a brave gutsy call, right thing to do.
And but I did also point out, nobody in the media liked me pointing it out, that we never would have found the location of bin Laden but for enhanced interrogation.
That's right.
There were three people waterboarded.
One of them was Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.
And I I talked to Jose Rodriguez and others that are sources of mind that saw the enhanced interrogation.
They were there in the room.
They witnessed it.
I have now talked to Jose I talked to publicly, but others that I know were there, and others witnessed it.
And that's where we got the name of the courier because he started talking.
Thing about enhanced interrogation.
Now we also had doctors there.
And we also, there was there were very specific guidelines given.
No, it's not pleasant.
Nobody wants to be waterboarded, not fun.
Zali North pointed out, if you're a marine, you get waterboarded.
They they make you feel that you feel like you're drowning.
That's what it's like.
It's just a horrible feeling.
And then when you get sick of it, then maybe you start talking.
And other people, well, that they don't work.
They don't tell the truth.
No, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad broke and he told the location of how it is that bin Laden communicated.
He wasn't using the internet.
He wasn't using telephones.
He wasn't communicating that way.
He assumed that we'd be able to pick up his communications.
So we picked the courier.
It leads us to Pakistan.
And yeah, they killed him.
Then they gave him a perfect burial at sea.
I to me, I would not have done that.
I would have done things differently myself.
I think I would have shown pictures of the dead bin Laden.
Let the world see it.
Let people understand it if they want to.
Just like I have a need to look at evil when I see it.
I wrote about in Deliver Us from Evil.
I tried to describe, you know, what kind of people go to work every day.
These are human beings, but they don't think like we think, and that their job is working in a death camp.
And every day the trains roll up and they're filled with with men, women, and children.
And your job is to keep them calm and say, okay, everybody off the train.
Welcome to the camp, blah, blah, blah.
All right.
And then they purposefully manipulate and create false hope.
I described all of this in Deliver Us from Evil.
They would create false hope.
And they'd say, are there any uh jewelers here?
Oh, great, come forward.
Are any nurses here?
Yes, you're a nurse.
All right, great.
We have need for nurses here.
Uh anybody that has any machine shop experience, great.
Raise your hand.
You we need you.
Step forward.
And they take everybody's clothes off.
They tell you you're going to take a shower.
And no, they gas you and kill you.
And that's they do that every day.
That's what they did for a living, every single solitary day.
And they just kill people.
And the bodies are wiped out, buried, whatever they do with them.
Now, how do you go home that night and look at your own kids?
How do you have a nice dinner, a couple of drinks, and go back to work the next day and do it all over again?
That's evil.
There's something there is, you know, somebody that can rape a woman.
That's an evil act or a child.
That is an evil act.
And there's no other way to describe it.
That there's evil in this world.
We lost a hundred million human souls in the last century.
Governments, communism, uh Nazism, fascism, Imperial Japan, uh, Mao, and and how many millions died under Mao in China.
How many millions died in the killing fields of Cambodia?
Scary.
Um, in other news, we have uh uh Michael Baden, who is uh been a longtime friend of mine, he's really good at what he does.
He's a forensics expert and you know, medical examiner.
He's worked on a number of high-profile cases.
He's had a five-decade medical career, and he has now looked at the autopsy results of Jeffrey Epstein and the body of Jeffrey Epstein, sex offender, found dead in a federal prison in Manhattan.
Uh, he says, bore the telltale tale signs of homicide, despite the official ruling that he killed himself.
When did you realize uh that the Epstein family needed help?
Well, I was asked by the brother, the next of kin, to be at the autopsy.
And at the autopsy on day one, there were findings that were unusual for suicidal hanging and more consistent with uh ligature homicidal strangulation, which included and it was suggested at the time that he committed suicide by doing what?
By by hanging uh at the time he was found allegedly hanging by uh a uh homemade ligature of sheets.
Are you saying you don't think it was suicide?
I think that the evidence points toward homicide rather than suicide.
Why?
Because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid bone, the thyroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide and more uh uh indicative of strangulation, homicidal strangulation.
Mm-hmm.
It's a little scary.
Uh I've I have full faith and confidence in Michael Biden.
I can tell you that.
He's the real deal.
Um, I don't even know what to make of that.
Uh, I haven't spent a lot of time on this.
Michelle Obama's comments getting a lot of play that white Americans are still running, uh, still running when minorities and immigrants move into their community, she said.
Made the remarks at the Obama Foundation summit at the Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago, sit-down interview, and was accompanied by her brother, an executive with the NBA's New York Knickerbockers, and Obama described uh when she first became conscious of what's called white flight.
We were doing everything we were supposed to do and better.
She said of her family, recalling that when she got a new address on the Chicago South Side, but when we moved in, white families moved out.
I want to remind white folks that you all were running from us, she continued, according to the Chicago Some Times, and you're still running, she said.
Um, all right, let's get to our busy telephones.
Let's say hi to Jeremy in Texas.
Jeremy, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Um, thank you very much, Sean.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
I'm glad you called.
I listen to your radio show every day.
Thank you.
I hear what you're saying.
I understand what you're saying.
I believe in what you're saying.
However, I'm very frustrated because I want to know what I can do as an American to help not only you, but to help myself get this stuff taken care of.
So it doesn't happen.
You know, honestly, this is a point in my career.
You're asking a great question.
And I hear I I hear almost pain in your voice thinking what you're thinking about, you know, America where we are, and secret Soviet-style hearings and coup attempts and you know, spying on presidents and you know, rigged uh rigged investigations and Russian dossiers and the and the duplicity and hypocrisy that is on display that it's never been this bad in in our lifetime, I can say mine.
Um listen, I share, I'm gonna say this.
I share your concern.
This is so corrupt.
The media mob is so corrupt, agenda-driven, you know, psychotic rage is taking over.
And the answer to your question is, and most people ask me, well, what can you do?
Well, what what you're doing now, which is talk about it.
And more importantly, I I just like to use the analogy of a wheel.
I guess at the center of the wheel, you got Donald Trump.
He's he's now leading to take America and advance America in a conservative way that uh is now showing incredible results.
And they want to destroy him.
And the effort to destroy him is real on nothing.
Not only did he do nothing in this phone call, he did the right thing in the phone call.
And it they're rigging the whole system to do it.
They're upending the country constitutionally.
We don't have equal justice.
We don't have equal application.
I'm I'm I'm as worried as you are.
But my my thing is, though, but we also have for any wheel, you have the spokes and the wheel.
I would say this is for America an all hands on deck moment.
And that means everybody now get on board.
And you better understand here that they they want to impeach him, probably or likely going to impeach him.
He's not going to be convicted in the Senate.
But all hands on deck means you gotta vote.
Because not only would it send the message that you're not gonna do this to us ever, because we're not gonna take it.
You're not gonna destroy the country.
And secondly, nor are we going to accept your new Green Deal, $94 trillion, you know, economic disaster, Medicare for all, your new socialist policies, your appeasement policies, your get rid of oil and gas policies and everything's free policies and no combustion engine policies and getting rid of cows and planes uh somewhere down the line policies.
So if you just the most important thing you can do is vote and speak out.
Talk to your friends when you're at dinner, when you're at McDonald's, I don't care where you are, and talk and you know, try and if some people are, oh, I don't like Trump style.
I wish you wouldn't say this.
I would all right.
Well, is he getting it done?
You know, every day on this program, I I try to include how successful things are.
You know, these are not just numbers.
When I during election year 2016, I mentioned Obama and Biden's failed record.
13 million more Americans, food stamps, eight million more in poverty, lowest labor participation rate since the 70s, the worst recovery since the 40s, the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years, more debt than every other president before him combined.
The reason is is I wanted everybody to know those facts before they voted.
Now we have 7 million new jobs created, 7 million fewer people on food stamps, and millions more out of poverty.
Now we're energy independent.
Now we've eliminated more bureaucracy than we have in the last hundred years in this country.
That's that that creates a business climate.
Now a president that has kept his commitment on originalist justices on the border, trade deals with Mexico, Japan, and Canada and our Western European allies and half a deal with China, um, the border walls going up.
I mean, that's all his success.
And if you love the country and you don't want what they're offering, and you don't like the corruption that they have been getting away with, well, you're gonna have a say.
And we're counting down starting November 3rd in a few days.
We'll be counting down on this radio and on my TV show, the days till election day.
We're also gonna put up on Hannity.com everything you need to know about registering in your state, early voting, absentee voting.
We're gonna make everybody informed.
And my hope is is that the American people rise up in large numbers, and they they say we've had enough of what you have done to this country the last four years.
Uh tonight, nine Eastern Hannity, uh Kevin McCarthy, Donald Trump Jr., Matt Gates, Michael Bodden.
Yeah, he thinks uh Jeffrey Epstein uh was killed.
He's gonna explain why.
Nine Eastern Tonight, Hannity, Fox News Channel.
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