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We got a phenomenal, phenomenal reaction to the interview that we had with the president last night.
I did not know how long he would stay on the air.
Just that, you know, I put in an interview request to call in.
He had not been interviewed post Mueller report.
It's too long and frankly impossible for me to summarize it all.
And I don't think I do it justice if I just play snippets or and we talked about so many things.
I mean, we talked at length about the media.
We talked at length about the Mueller report and No Russia collusion, which we had all known.
It was a nine-month FBI investigation and two congressional investigations and everything in between.
We now know from on the cover of the Drudge Report, New York Times reporting, Mueller report is just 300 pages.
I have sources telling me it's mostly like an index, that it is not as long as people are saying.
And, you know, it is frustrating that the media wants to cling and hang on to, even though it could not be any more clear, no evidence of any collusion.
And while Mueller decided not to make the decision one way or the other as it relates to obstruction and very clearly says that is up to the Department of Justice.
Remember, it was Rod Rosenstein who appointed him.
And Attorney General Barr, that's their job.
They run that department.
And what Mueller clearly did is say, here, here's what we got.
I decided not to do it.
We'll let you do it.
And not because the issue of whether or not you can indict a sitting president, which had been discussed a lot over the last two years, and you cannot, but putting that aside, that was not a factor in their decision.
And the reason is, and it just makes common sense, is that if you have the evidence of obstruction, first of all, you got to have obstruction of a crime.
Well, we're talking about obstructing an investigation into what?
Something that there's no crime associated with.
And more importantly, the issues that were brought up were all public comments that the president made.
I don't know what people expect innocent people to do when people accuse them of horrible things.
Now, my natural instinct is to say, not true, fake news.
It's a lie.
I never, no, nobody I know of.
Not at my instructions, especially, you know, you think of all the people that accused this president of treason for crying out loud.
Like John Brennan, multiple times, the guy's getting paid by fake news CNN.
And then his flipping comment, well, I guess my information was wrong because a week ago he was telling us there's going to be three more indictments for Mueller.
It's pretty frustrating on so many different levels.
And I don't know what these people think.
And then, of course, there is, you know, Britt Hume, I think, captured it so well.
And I've known Britt Hume for many years.
And Britt Hume does, he's not a talk show host like me.
Britt Hume is a journalist.
Britt Hume did a great show for years.
Now Brett Baer has taken over the show.
It's special report does so well on Fox.
And Britt Hume, in over 50 years, I've never seen the media get something on this level.
It's just such an epic fail.
And they've lost all perspective.
I mean, it is a mass psychosis that has taken over.
Literally, they hear the name Donald Trump or even worse or even less significant, they see a MAGA hat is now a trigger to go out and smear, slander, besmirch, bludgeon even 16-year-old kids like Nicholas Sandman.
It's awful what they did to that kid.
The kid who showed grace and dignity under the most difficult of circumstances.
And, you know, I keep saying on this program, where do we go from here?
Because there was Russian influence in the election.
And I asked the president about that last night.
You know, the person that warned us first about the hostile regime of Russia, they are hostile.
Russia, by the way, has been trying to influence elections in the United States and around the world.
This is what they do going back to the KGB days, going back to the Cold War days.
They've not stopped.
And what's frustrating to me is, you know, I think we have, and I read somewhere once that we have 250,000 IT employees for our government.
And the fact that we have this vulnerability yet still, you know, at some point you say, shame on you, shame on you, shame on you.
But when you know they're going to do it, and Nunes knew in 2014 that they would try.
Now, thankfully, every analysis has shown it has not impacted votes, et cetera.
Although I've got to admit, now the debunked, dirty Clinton bought and paid for Russian dossier, it was leaked to members of the press, disseminated to the American people.
It was talked about at length in terms of the leaks.
That would be David Korn, Michael Lizikoff, Washington Post.
Now, we didn't get the full dossier until January the following year, but enough came out to raise questions about pictures compromised, hookers urinating in a bed in Ritz Carlton in Moscow and Donald Trump's room.
It's pretty unbelievable.
And then to watch people like Adam Schiff, they just cannot accept that we now have had four exhaustive investigations and he still can't let it go.
Now, it's really interesting.
There is a letter that has been sent out to the cowardly Schiff, who we've invited on this program.
Now, we have a database on Schiff of every comment that he's ever made.
And Schiff is still saying, oh, no, there's still collusion.
Oh, the FBI investigation in nine months, Lisa Page and Peter Strzx have, no, no, no, they're there.
Lisa Page directly saying we had no evidence before the appointment of the special counsel, none.
And they've been looking at it at least nine months, if not longer.
And yet he wants to continue this.
Now, I got to tell you something here.
Those people that, especially you got the media and you got the extreme radical New Democratic Socialist Party.
And they are basically all in this together.
You know, when they say manufactured crisis, they even use the same talking point again and again and again and again and again.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Stormy, stormy, stormy.
You know, breathless reporting.
You know, I can tell you that these news channels that have gone all in Every second, every minute, every hour, every day, every week, every month, every year.
They have seen a precipitous drop in, I mean, dramatic.
You don't see the kind of drop that we have seen in cable TV for networks like this.
Now, why is that?
Because they created in their audience an anticipation, a false hope.
That any second now, that they finally got him.
And that impeachment is imminent.
And the removal of Trump from office is imminent.
But it never was because there never was any evidence.
You know, I don't like the way Robert Mueller handled this.
I don't like the people that he put together in this case.
I don't like Strzok, Page, Weissman, Genie Ray, only Democratic donors.
You know, am I surprised?
I don't know.
Somebody who has numerous times told me that Mueller's not who I think he is.
And I'd say, well, why did he appoint that group of people?
I think it's a very fair question.
And he said, well, in his heart and soul, he's a prosecutor.
That's all he wants to do.
He even left for private practice, went back to being a prosecutor at a much lower level than he'd been.
It's okay.
He was a Marine.
I know his whole background.
And if you have any sense of objectivity in you, you see what's going on here.
You see that Hillary, you know, look at Lisa Page and Peter Strzzok while laughing at it.
She's not getting indicted no matter what.
When Strzok interviewed Hillary Clinton, they let two other people in the room.
Strzok was writing the exoneration of Hillary in May of 2016.
Didn't interview her until July 2nd, 2016.
Comey exonerated her immediately thereafter, even though there was top secret classified, marked, unmarked on her secret server.
That at the time, we believe six foreign intelligence services have gotten into, which doesn't surprise me.
And we haven't even gotten to the answer of that.
And then, of course, the obstruction case is a slam dunk.
But there was collusion.
There was Russian influence.
Yes, Robert Mueller found the Russian bot companies.
I don't doubt that for a second.
Yes, Russian intelligence officers, you know, yeah, I'm sure they did.
I've never liked Putin particularly myself.
I don't want a war with Russia.
I'll tell you how to beat Russia.
What I've been saying for years.
You know, the fact that Angela Merkel would be so dumb to help make Putin rich again and Russia rich again, citing trillions of dollars in, you know, the lifeblood of their economy coming from a hostile regime like that is insane.
But the way to beat Vladimir Putin is the way we're doing it.
We have now become the number one producer on the face of this earth of energy, oil, natural gas.
And when we figure out, as we are now a net exporter, we're energy independent for ourselves, we figure out how to get it to our allies in Western Europe.
Guess what?
Putin and Russia will decline precipitously.
They will have no money.
That's all they've got.
And they, you know, that's our answer to them.
Tell Vladimir I have more flexibility after the election.
Tell Vladimir that.
Well, we don't have to play it every time.
And it's, you know, it's interesting to watch now.
Adam Schiff himself, by the way, just got a letter.
Since the inauguration, you've been the center of well-orchestrated media campaign, claiming, among other things, the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government.
Before the appointment of Robert Mueller, you alleged during one of your frequent television interviews there was more than circumstantial evidence of collusion, but that you could not go into the particulars.
You repeated these public comments, which implied knowledge of classified facts supporting the collusion allegations, occurred at the same time as anonymous leaks of alleged intelligence and law enforcement information were appearing in the media.
These leaks, often sourced to current or former administration or intelligence officials, appeared to support the collusion allegations and were purported to be related to the ongoing investigations of President Trump and his associates.
As you know, the committee has long been aware of and actively engaged in intelligence oversight and activities related to Russia activities.
And as part of our duty to oversee the actions of the intelligence community, we conducted a thorough investigation related to the 2016 Russia efforts to interfere with the U.S.
The investigation included a review of allegations about Trump colluding with Russia.
The committee found no evidence that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it, anybody colluded, coordinated, conspired with the Russian government.
That was in March of 20, or that's, you know, just now.
The special counsel did it.
Then the FBI did it.
Then the Senate committee did it.
And despite these findings, he's proclaiming that he still has and is going to further, will continue to investigate counterintelligence issues.
This is the president or people around him compromised.
And your actions, both in the past and present, are incompatible with your duty as chairman of that committee, of the House Intel Committee.
And we have the authority to provide oversight.
As such, we have no faith in your ability to discharge your duties in a manner consistent with your constitutional responsibility and urge your immediate resignation.
Schiff needs to go.
He's a liar.
Biggest liar in Congress.
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All right, I got a lot of details.
Congressman Doug Collins has struck again, releasing the behind-closed door testimony of Nellie Orr.
And this is huge.
We'll get to those details in a minute.
You know, now, you know, the cowardly Schiff, he's sort of like a truther or a birther in a sense.
He's like the only one now believing, oh, this is still this, there was collusion.
Kevin McCarthy tore him up earlier today.
Now they have a chairman of the Intel Committee, where we go to protect Americans around the world and our own nation, lied to the American public for the last two years.
It's not me saying it.
It's a Moller report saying it.
He doesn't apologize, and the speaker allows him to stay as chairman.
That is unacceptable.
Not from a point of a Republican, but from a point of the Republic.
We want to know we're safe.
We want to know we can trust what comes out of that committee.
He has no ability to produce his job when every single member on the other side said, I can't stand for you to stay as chair.
And to equate that anyway with Congressman Devin Nunes is wrong.
Devin Nunes was proven correct.
That's what the report says.
Today in that hearing, every single Republican signed a letter that this chairman, they have lost confidence.
They do not believe, no matter what they work on, that the American public can trust them.
This is not a committee that's set by a steering committee.
One person alone decides who sits on that committee for the Democrat and one person who decides on the Republican side.
It's now up to Nancy Pelosi to remove Chairman Schiff.
The idea that you would have a chairman of a committee of this nature, the work that is involved in this committee, that would lie to the American public, not apologize, but use the tactics of Senator Joe McCarthy to attack his own members.
There's nothing that could come from this committee.
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So I agree with this letter, and I agree with Kevin McCarthy that the cowardly Schiff is reckless, irresponsible.
He has now become the lead tinfoil hack conspiracy theorist in the House of Representatives.
He has rushed to judgment.
He's not denied due process.
He throws aside due process.
It's guilt by accusation.
And anyway, so the letter says his actions, both past and present, are incompatible with his duty as chairman of the committee, which alone in the House of Representatives has the obligation and authority to provide effective oversight of the U.S. intelligence community.
As such, we have no faith in your ability to discharge your duties in a manner consistent with your constitutional responsibility.
And Republicans are now demanding his immediate resignation as chairman.
Now, it was Schiff that led the way that, oh, well, Devin Nunes went to the White House.
He's got to recuse himself.
Nunes did.
He shouldn't have had to, by the way.
And after it was looked at, they found nothing.
So no matter what the FBI report or the FBI investigation showed, nothing, no collusion after nine months, no matter what the House intelligence community found or the bipartisan Senate intelligence community found, he doesn't care.
Now the Mueller report finding the same thing.
I'll release the report.
We're going to find one sentence in there that was just going to be damning.
They're all trying to, you know, get back some credibility.
They all lied.
They said with certainty, collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia.
No, it didn't happen.
You know, the headline in the political today is Mueller swiftly closes up shop.
Apparently Democrats are furious at that prospect.
Anyway, the docket sheet hanging outside a federal courtroom on Wednesday listed Robert Mueller's prosecutors nowhere to be found.
And in a matter of days, the special counsel has now downshifted from investigating to managerial tasks involved in packing up papers, disbanding staff, handing off cases, and everything left to argue in court.
Like Wednesday's hearing involving some foreign company fighting a Mueller subpoena has been given to career prosecutors in permanent offices.
And they're like, well, what happened?
Well, he made his decision, and they don't like it.
Well, it's 300-plus pages.
How many of those pages are index pages, I wonder?
You know, Barr wrote to Congress, gave exactly and even quoted what the report said, no collusion.
Within an instant, basically, you had Rosenstein.
Remember, Rod Rosenstein signed the fourth FISA warrant application, the third renewal.
And he signed on, no, no obstruction.
Because if there's any doubt, if he had it, he would have said it.
And I'm sure this merry band of Democratic voter donors, the Andrew Weissman's on that team, whatever.
Devin Nunes is going to be releasing criminal referrals as early as next week, multiple referrals on a number of different crimes, including leaking classified information as part of the investigation into the misconduct of the Justice Department and the FBI.
Oh, wait until, I'm very interested to see what Horowitz comes up with and Hoover comes up with.
I don't know what it's going to be, but we know the whole story on FISA.
Rand Paul said, and this is good for him, that he has his sources putting John Brennan at the center of the Russia Gate conspiracy.
And he said that he's uncovered new information and that citing a high-level source, Rand Paul charged in a Twitter post yesterday that anti-XCIA director Brennan insisted that the unverified and fake Steele dossier will be included in classified intelligence community report of Russian interference in the 2016 elections that ultimately lent credibility to the phony dossier.
He wants now Brennan to testify under oath immediately.
Why is he still working at fake news CNN?
Why is Clapper still at tinfoil hack conspiracy theory TV, MSNBC?
I want to see, and Paul is saying that the hoax should focus on Obama.
Well, we learned that last week with the Strzok and Page behind closed-door interviews.
You know, now the whole issue of Schiff is hitting the fan.
No pun intended.
And to resign.
Now, we do have great people that are doing amazing work.
And I will tell you, one of them is a guy by the name we now know, Doug Collins.
Doug Collins is the one that got us the Bruce Orr closed-door testimony.
He's going to be on with us tomorrow.
He got us the Lisa Page testimony.
He got us the Strzok testimony.
He got us the McCain Aid testimony.
Well, we got more out of him today.
And I'm glad we did, and I'm glad he's out there.
And this time it's Nellie Orr, who worked for Fusion GPS.
Among other things, we learned today that Nellie Orr, remember, her husband was the fourth highest ranking member in the Department of Justice before his two demotions, met with Christopher Steele the very day before the FBI launched their Trump-Russia investigation.
Wow.
That's unbelievable.
Now, remember, Steele was later fired for lying and leaking, and then Steele later on in an interrogatory wouldn't stand by his own dossier, which means that dossier was unverifiable.
They met at the D.C. Mayflower Hotel, and the transcript just released today shows that Nellie Orr met with Steele three times, the last of which was July 30th, 2016, the day before, at least we're told, the FBI initiated a counterintelligence investigation into links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.
It is believed Peter Strzok signed the order that launched the inquiry.
You know, the guy that just wrote the exoneration of Hillary in May, interviewed her on July 2nd, 2016.
Exoneration was already written.
Gross negligence taken out.
Any reference to foreign entities hacking her server taken out.
Anyway, Nellie Orr and her husband, Bruce Orr.
Well, apparently she working for Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, who got the funneled money from Hillary and the DNC money that she was controlling, was up to her eyeballs in all of this.
Anyway, she said she learned for the first time Steele also worked at Fusion GPS.
She said she understands that Steele was trying to convey to her husband his concern about the information regarding Trump.
Believe she saw at least one page of the so-called Trump dossier, hoping that it would make its way to the FBI.
She said, my understanding was Christopher Steele was hoping that Bruce would put in a word with the FBI to follow up on the information in some way.
And she said when asked if words like investigation, inquiry were brought up during the discussion.
The transcript reveals her research on connections between Russia and President Trump and the Trump family and Trump associates while she worked at Fusion GPS.
She declined to answer most questions about her husband.
Now, remember, we now know from notes and memos, Bruce Orr, after Steele was fired for lying and leaking, well, Christopher Steele was still in contact with Bruce Orr, asking Bruce Orr to pass on information to who?
Robert Mueller.
Long after he's fired.
Anyway, it's 137 pages, the transcript released today.
This was from October in front of a joint session of the House Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committees.
And most of the testimony focuses on her time at Fusion GPS and their relationship with the DOJ.
But Bruce Orr met with Christopher Steele one day before Strzok opened the investigation.
But Bruce Orr did tell everybody in the FBI the truth in August of 2016, that, in fact, Hillary paid for it, and that Steele hates Trump, and none of it's verified.
That didn't stop anybody from using it as the Grassley Graham memo tells us the bulk of information as it relates to the FISA application.
So when you look at it, and there's a couple of great synopses out there.
One is the Washington Examiner and a number of other places.
But, you know, what we're seeing is Mark Meadows tweeting out, Bruce Orr confirmed in his interview today after the FBI terminated their relationship with Christopher Steele that the FBI privately re-engaged with him.
You know, think about the gig that Christopher Steele got.
He's getting paid by the FBI, Hillary Clinton, the DNC, which Hillary Clinton's controlling the money of, and by a Russian oligarch.
Not a bad gig to get paid for one dossier that you can't even stand by when questioned under oath.
I have no idea if it's true.
That's pretty amazing to me.
And as I look through the rest of all of this, it gets pretty damning.
You know, that Bruce Orr's wife meeting with Christopher Steele the very day before the launching of the Trump-Russia investigation, her working for Fusion GPS meeting at the Mayflower Hotel.
By the way, one of President Truman, by the way, described by him as Washington's second best address.
Kennedy once kept an apartment allegedly and a mistress there.
And that's where Governor Spitzer used an assumed name to book room 871 and meet client, what was it, 9 or 15 or whatever the client number was.
And anyway, so we see that she did all that research connecting Russia and President Trump, the Trump family, Trump associates, you know, and she said in this 137-page transcript, thus far I have released four transcripts of interviews.
This is Doug Collins, by the way, you know, about apparent wrongdoing at the FBI and Department of Justice.
This is the fifth.
The American people deserve transparency.
They deserve to know what transpired at the highest levels of the government.
And the testimony focused, as I said, on these main things.
Now, they met a total of three times.
The last was the day before the FBI initiated the counterintelligence investigation.
Now, that meeting at the Mayflower, Nellie Orr said her husband was in attendance along with an unknown associate of Steele.
Okay, so that means her Department of Justice husband and her colluding together to me.
That needs to be thoroughly vetted.
And, you know, she's saying she learned for the first time that Steele worked for Fusion GPS.
She said she understood that Steele was trying to convey to her husband, basically advancing the lie because when push came to shove, Steele backed off his dossier as fast as he could.
Pretty amazing.
And then when Orr was hired by Fusion GPS, she knew her husband was working at the DOJ.
That's a problem as well.
Jordan asked Jim Jordan, did he at the time he hired you, that your husband, did he know that your husband worked for the DOJ?
Yeah.
And she said that her work focused specifically on issues related to then-candidate Trump and ties to Russia.
And as she worked on a project looking into the relationship with Trump and organized crime, Russian organized crime.
Looking at the relationship with Trump.
Wow.
She said she wrote it up in reports, emailed them to Fusion GPS, or implied that Fusion GPS was leaking the research to the media.
Some of the material appeared in the press.
I don't know what their relationship is with the press.
Citing marital privilege during the interview, she refused to answer most questions about her husband.
At one point, she was asked, did you ever put information on a flash drive and give it to someone other than Fusion GPS?
She said yes.
All right, well, who did you give it to?
And anyway, a senior counsel for the House Oversight Committee said, other than Bruce Orr, your husband, no one.
So she gave it to her husband.
It's unbelievable.
This whole thing is unbelievable.
Biggest abuse of power corruption scandal ever in American history.
And the media ignored it, and they just went with their hate Trump, rage Trump every second of every day.
Unreal.
And you have Bruce Orr's testimony contradicting testimony given by other senior government officials.
This was picked up earlier today by Zero Hedge.
The contradictions, Glenn Simpson suggesting in testimony that the Senate, he never spoke to anyone about the FBI and Christopher Steele or suggested otherwise.
He told Trey Gowdy, as I recall, and this is after checking my notes, Glenn Simpson and I spoke in August of 2016.
I met with them, provided some information on possible intermediaries between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.
In another case, Simpson's testimony also contradicts Bruce Orr after the meeting they had in December of 2016.
Unverified allegations.
By the way, by that time, Steele was fired.
Anyway, Glenn Simpson claiming unverified allegations disseminated among the media that Trump campaign had a computer server that was linked to a Russian bank.
Remember that story?
I forgot all about that.
Orr testified that lawmakers that Simpson provided information to federal officials was false regarding Clea Mitchell.
Or I may be wrong, but I think my recollection is that Glenn Simpson mentioned Cleta Mitchell, not Chris Steele.
Meadows says, and it could be in what context?
Because she hadn't been on the board of the NRA for many years, so.
And you got Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wouldn't answer questions about what he learned about Orr's wife, who was working for Fusion GPS.
He wouldn't tell us when Nelly Orr was working for Fusion GPS.
Matt Gates told us that on Judge Denine's show.
Orr's testimony says that he told the FBI about his wife's role at Fusion GPS, but only divulged his role to one person, Rod Rosenstein.
I still think Rod Rosenstein's in trouble.
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At the bottom of this half hour, Peter Schweitzer, wow, he's got a lot to say about crazy, creepy Uncle Joe Biden.
I wonder if Biden's going to run after reading a lot of this.
So last night, I did not know the president would stay on for 45 minutes, but it was his first comprehensive interview as it relates to the Mueller report, the AG, him being exonerated of any collusion or obstruction in spite of two years of lies.
And I'm going to play some of this interview for you this half hour.
And on the other side of that, we'll have Peter Schweitzer, your calls, and the latest on the Smollock case as well.
800-941-Sean is our number in the meantime.
But here's the president from last night.
You really have not had an opportunity to react and respond to the Mueller report, the AG's letter that summarized the report, that exonerated you.
No collusion after all these years, as you have been claiming.
He left the decision as it relates to obstruction to the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General.
They quickly said no, that does not rise to that level.
And I wanted to get your reaction.
Well, we're very happy about it.
It's gone on for a long time, almost since the beginning of my term.
And, you know, if you look at it, we've done so much despite that.
But it was a cloud.
It was a cloud that most people didn't believe, fortunately.
They spent more than $30 million, hundreds of interviews of people, in some cases, very innocent people that were put through the ringer, millions of document pages, millions and millions of document pages.
And after that, there was no collusion.
There was no obstruction.
It was such a ridiculous thing that happened.
On the other hand, you know, you look at how did this start?
How did it start?
You had dirty cops.
You had people that are bad FBI folks.
I know so many.
They're incredible people.
But at the top, they were not clean, to put it mildly.
And what they did to our country was a terrible, terrible thing.
Did anything surprise you?
And what about the people that were collateral damage in all of this?
Well, people were hurt so badly, so badly.
Their lives have been ruined.
And over, you know, over something that should have never taken place, an investigation that should have never happened.
There was no crime.
As you know, you're only allowed to do this legally.
If there's a crime, there was no crime.
They've all admitted it.
Comey, who's a terrible guy, Comey and McCabe and Strzok and Paige, the lover, Paige, and all of these people, they've admitted in testimony that there was no crime.
So they started an investigation based on no crime.
I will say this.
Our new Attorney General, Bill Barr, is a great gentleman, and I've heard about him for years.
He's a great man.
Had he been there initially, this all would not have happened because what's gone on there is just a disgrace to our country.
Mr. President.
But a lot of innocent people were hurt very badly, and it's very, very sad, actually.
What do you think needs to happen to prevent this from ever happening again?
What checks and balances and what should be pursued or not pursued, in your opinion?
Well, I'm going to leave that to our new Attorney General, who's been so incredible, actually.
And that's based on a lot of people saying this is a very, very special person.
And that's what you need in that position.
That's a very important position.
You need so many different, you need genius, you need rationality, you need so many different levels of good.
And I'm also going to leave it to Lindsey Graham.
He's head of judiciary and said it, and a very, very good guy and a very smart guy.
And, you know, I'm just going to let them do whatever they want to do.
And I would imagine they don't like what they see, to put it mildly, but you'd have to ask them.
I think it's much more appropriate.
I purposely didn't want to involve myself in this whole thing.
You know, we're talking about really longer than, if you think about it, longer than Mueller.
It was many months before that that Strzok and Paige were talking about the insurance policy, right?
An insurance policy, just in case Hillary Clinton lost.
They wanted an insurance policy against me.
And what we were playing out until just recently was the insurance policy.
They wanted to do a subversion.
It was treason.
It was really treason.
If the Republican Party had done this to the Democrats, if we had done this to President Obama, you'd have 100 people in jail right now and it would be treason.
It would be considered treason and they'd be in jail for the rest of their lives.
Before I get to the media question, would you consider, sir, a pardon?
Look at General Flynn, for example, or, you know, Papadopoulos, who's had to spend 12 days in jail.
Is that something that you would consider at some point?
Well, as I told you, many, many people were hurt, incredibly hurt, by this whole scam.
It's just a scam.
But it's much worse than that.
It's at the highest level, and the importance is so what it meant to our country.
It's a very, very dark period, and I think maybe we're shedding a lot of light.
We're going to come into a bright, beautiful, sunny day.
It's a very, very sad thing.
I don't want to talk about pardons now, but I can say it's so sad on so many levels.
We've done so much, and we have so much planned.
So when I had to listen to CNN, which is so fake, so horribly fake, and I would just, I wouldn't listen often.
Believe me, I wouldn't want to listen often.
But whenever I did or whenever I saw it, I've never seen anything like that.
And MSNBC, the same thing.
The good news is I heard their ratings last night.
Both of them were, they dropped off the folder.
They dropped to a level that nobody could believe.
Because now that they see the Mueller report, where you look at their finding, I mean, the finding was very, very strong.
No collusion, no obstruction, no Russia, no nothing.
And it's great.
And I noticed your record, you had virtually record ratings last night.
So that's because you have credibility.
So I want to thank Fox.
Want to thank some of those people I just named, but also many others.
They've been so fantastic to me and really to our country.
And I really do.
They're really amazing people, great people.
And it wasn't so easy for them.
Your thoughts on James Comey.
Well, he's right about that for any reason.
If you look at Article 2, for any reason.
But despite that, that was an incorrect statement.
And when you say what I said, there was nothing said wrong there, but they didn't play the whole interview.
When they play the whole thing, you see it exactly.
I mean, the fact is, it would only get worse.
And I said this, it would only get worse if I fired him.
I knew that it was going to get worse, not better.
I'm not going to fire him and everything goes away.
It would be a bigger deal if I fired him.
And I knew that.
So it was a negative, not a positive.
And everybody knew that, but NBC didn't want to play it that way.
They wanted to play it a different way.
And when you talk about people that are dishonest and when you talk about bad fake news, NBC, where we had The Apprentice for so many years as one of their most successful shows, NBC is as bad as CNN.
I can tell you that.
Well, Schiff is a bad guy because he knew he was lying.
I mean, he's not a dummy, and he knew he was lying.
And for a year and a half, he'd go on and just lie and lie and leak and call up CNN and others.
And just, you know, I watch him so sanctimonious and gets on and says, oh, well, we want to talk about Russia.
He knew it was a lie.
And he'd get into the back room with his friends in the Democrat Party and they would laugh like hell at what they were doing.
It's a disgrace.
And he knew it was a lie.
And therefore, in one way, you could say it's a crime what he did because he was giving, I mean, horrible, making horrible statements that he knew were false.
And frankly, you know, I heard they should force him off the committee or off the committee chair.
He should be forced out of office.
He is a disgrace to our country, and you have plenty of others.
But he would go on night after night talking about a collusion, the collusion delusion.
And I will tell you this about Russia.
If they had anything on me, it would have come out a long time ago, probably a long time before I ran.
We'll say this.
I said, you know, let's get back on.
Let's not think about the past.
Let's think about the future.
But now I think thinking about the past is just okay because we can never let this happen again in our country or to another president.
I'm not talking about me.
I'm talking into the future.
We can never allow this treasonous, these treasonous acts to happen to another president.
This was an attempted takeover of our government, of our country, an illegal takeover.
And if it were the other way around, where I was doing it to President Obama or a Democrat, it would be virtually the maximum sentence that you can find no matter where you look in whatever legal book.
Do you have plans to release those FISA applications, Gang of Aid Information, the 302s of Bruce Orr and others, and the five buckets of John Solomon, as they call it?
I do.
I have plans to declassify and release.
I have plans to absolutely release.
But I have some very talented people working for me, lawyers, and they really didn't want me to do it early on.
One of the reasons that my lawyers didn't want me to do it is they said if I do it, they'll call it a form of obstruction.
So they'll say, oh, you released these documents.
So we would make all of this information transparent.
You know, in politics, you always hear transparency.
We'd make it transparent, and then they'd call it obstruction, knowing the people we're dealing with.
So frankly, I thought it would be better if we held it to the end.
No, but at the right time, we will be absolutely releasing.
And I did the right thing by not doing it so far.
But you understand they would call it something that it wouldn't be.
It's the only time you'd be transparent where they'd say bad things about transparency.
And Brennan, in particular, multiple times accused you of treason.
Yeah.
Your reaction.
Well, I think Brennan's a sick person.
I really do.
I believe there's something wrong with him.
And I watched for him to come out of the CIA and act that way was so disrespectful to the country and to the CIA and to the position he held.
And he was not considered good at what he did.
He was never a respected guy.
Tough guy, but not a respected guy.
But he lied to Congress.
And the other night, before the report came out, he predicted horrible things.
So things he said were horrible.
And then today, I guess he said something.
I didn't see it, but I heard he said, well, I must have bad sources or bad information.
I mean, this is a man who really is either sick or there's some other problem.
But the way he spoke, and as you know, Clapper lied, and perhaps the statute of limitations ran out on that one, but it didn't run out on Comey.
It didn't run out on Brennan or Struck or Page or McCabe.
I mean, McCabe, his wife got hundreds of thousands of dollars.
He was running the FBI and running all sorts of cases.
And his wife got hundreds of thousands of dollars from essentially Clinton's, from Clinton's closest friend.
And then he ruled so favorably.
I mean, he tries to say that he wasn't involved.
I don't think too many people believe that.
I don't believe that.
But, you know, she got all those good rulings.
It's really a scandalous situation.
And it's so badly that it reflects so horribly a guy like Orr with his wife, Nellie Orr, and GPS Fusion.
She wrote the report and then goes, gives it to her husband, who's at the DOJ.
And then he goes and brings it to the FBI.
And she's getting paid for doing it.
It's incredible.
The things that happened are incredible and very, very bad for our country.
How much money now is available for the wall?
And what is the status, the progress?
How many more miles need to be built?
How many have you repaired?
How many miles?
Where are we with all of this?
We've repaired, I mean, literally, you know, many, many miles.
I could give you numbers, but many, many miles.
We're building many miles.
We're going to have hundreds of miles are already under construction or soon to be under construction.
Billions of dollars will be necessary.
It's absolutely vital.
If you look at what's happening at the border, it's terrible with the human traffickers, the drugs, everything that's coming across.
And it goes across the soft points, which are the points without the wall.
And we will have hundreds of miles built fairly quickly, billions of dollars.
We took a billion dollars in today.
And I'm building it much less expensively than it was in the past.
If you look at the past, they were talking about $25 to $30 billion.
I'm building it for a fraction of that.
The wall is better.
It's going up faster.
The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a great job working with us.
And we have some real professionals.
And the military has been incredible, putting up the barbed wire.
Essentially, it's barbed wire.
It's actually barbed wire plus.
But it's incredible what they've done.
You've seen it.
I mean, you know, many, many miles of wire.
And if we didn't have it, we would really have a problem.
What is your reaction as you watch this new Green Deal in the comments of all these new candidates?
Do you have any reaction to it?
Well, I don't want to speak badly about the new Green Deal, Sean, because, frankly, I'm afraid that they'll stop using it because I really do want to campaign against it.
It's ridiculous.
It's crazy.
And it'll cost $100 trillion.
Nobody knows what that means.
That means it's more money than you have in the world.
They'll say, we're going to give free everything.
You're going to end up being Venezuela if that's happening.
have a nice big problem with Venezuela.
You look at Venezuela was a wealthy country not long ago and now it's one of the poorest countries.
We'll end up being the same thing.
The new Green Deal is ridiculous, but I don't want to speak badly because I want them to keep going forward with it.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue.
And on the other side of the news, we'll check in with Peter Schweitzer, who has done a lot of research on crazy, creepy Uncle Joe Biden.
That's coming up.
We got a great Hannity tonight at 9 on the Fox News channel.
Rush Lumbaugh will be joining us as a guest.
That's tonight, Hannity, Fox News, 9 Eastern.
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Sean, if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.
All right, let me play for you.
Joe Biden's going to get in the race, Creepy Joe, and just listen to maybe some things you didn't know before.
Three-letter word, jobs.
J-O-B-S jobs.
You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
I'm not talking.
He said, because I'm famous, because I'm a star, because I'm a billionaire, I can do things other people can't.
What a disgusting assertion for anyone to make.
The press always asks me, don't I wish I were debating him?
No, I wish you were in high school.
I could take him behind the gym.
That's what I wish.
Crazy, creepy Uncle Joe Biden.
You notice now they're trying to get out.
Well, I regret what I did during the Anita Hill hearings and wish I handled it better.
And, oh, by the way, the fact that I was against busing and integration, sorry about that little thing, too.
And one person that has been in the forefront of exposing a lot of issues, especially regarding, oh, the deep state and the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One and many, many other issues is Peter Schweitzer.
He's the author of Secret Empires, which, by the way, is being re-released this week in the paperback edition with the new afterword.
And he's done a lot of research on crazy, creepy Uncle Joe, who, I don't know, is thinking about, contemplating, floating one trial balloon about the stupid things he said over the years after another.
But this is going to go a lot deeper in terms of vetting Uncle Joe Biden, isn't it, Peter Schweitzer?
Yes, that's right, Sean.
Great to be on with you as always.
Yeah, it's not just a question of the crazy or off-putting things that Joe Biden has said.
It's a question of what he's done while he was Vice President of the United States and how he self-enriched his family by helping his son with these foreign deals with foreign governments.
It's the collusion that people have been raising in a phony way over the last couple of years.
But in the case of Joe Biden, it's very real and very direct.
All right, let's go through some of it.
Let's talk about what you have learned in the time that you have written this book about Joe Biden, especially financial records related to his son Hunter, a certain trip that he took to China, and more importantly, the questions that he will face about his son Hunter's association with the Ukrainian energy company.
I think it's called Burisma.
Yeah.
Burisma, that's right.
During the eight years that he was vice president.
Same with the China deal.
Why don't you walk us through these?
Sure.
Well, the thing you need to know is that Hunter Biden, before his father became vice president, was a lobbyist for online gambling interests.
So this is not like a guy who has a lot of background in international business.
But he starts a small financial firm called Rosemont Seneca Partners.
And he's got a couple of buddies involved in those.
One of them is Chris Hines, the stepson of John Kerry.
But Hunter Biden's at the center of this.
And what he basically does is go around the world signing deals with foreign governments.
In December of 2013, he flies with his father on Air Force 2 to Beijing, China.
His dad spends three days talking to the Chinese about a variety of issues.
He basically gets criticized by the Washington Post for going soft on the Chinese.
And what we find out is that 10 days later, Hunter's small boutique investment firm lands a $1 billion deal, that's with a B, with the Chinese government.
It's an investment deal.
It later gets expanded to $1.5 billion.
And Sean, the important thing to point out here is this deal is unique.
It's through the Shanghai Free Trade Zone.
Goldman Sachs doesn't have this deal.
J.P. Morgan, nobody else does, except this small firm headed by the vice president's son.
And, of course, Hunter Biden has no background in China.
He has no background in private equity.
And he lands this deal.
That's just the first of several deals that he cuts with the Chinese government, not with Chinese companies or American companies in China, with the Chinese government.
And we know through banking records that he received a lot of money from the Chinese government, and he received a lot of money from other foreign entities as well while his father is charting American foreign policy.
He gets more than $3 million from a corrupt Ukrainian energy company called Burizma.
Burizma is a company that's controlled by two Ukrainian oligarchs, one of which has fled the country on corruption charges.
But we also know from financial records that Hunter Biden is attached to this account with his friend Devin Archer.
There's also money from a Kazakh oligarch.
There is money from this nondescript LLC that this money is transferred, $1.2 million from this small Swiss bank, which has been implicated in money laundering in 10 countries.
The list goes on and on and on.
And this is all going on while Joe Biden is the point person on U.S. policy towards Ukraine and China.
How is it possible that all this went on and nobody ever reported on it?
Well, it's a combination of things.
Number one, I think there was the gloss of the Obama administration that many people in the mainstream media just didn't seem interested in tracking these things down.
Number two, the problem is it takes a lot of digging to find this stuff.
It took us about five and a half months, but we have the Chinese corporate documents.
We know now through court trials that took place last year.
We got evidence from prosecutors who were prosecuting Hunter Biden's business partner in the New York courtroom.
It's all there in black and white.
So there's no question that these transactions took place.
There's no question of the timing that they took place.
And it's really impossible for Joe Biden to argue he didn't know about it.
He was on the plane.
He was on Air Force 2 with his dad closing the deal.
So it's very troublesome.
And hopefully those people that get a chance to interview Joe Biden in the mainstream media will actually ask him questions about this because it's scandalous behavior.
I think you have to go back a very long time to find an American vice president who engaged in any kind of corruption remotely resembling this.
Well, I mean, when you put it all together with the sun and China and a trip to China and now a trip to Ukraine, and the sun is on Air Force II, and all these business dealings are going on, you know, just the appearance of impropriety is like, oh, my father, the vice president, I'll be on his plane.
Now, let's talk about that deal we're going to make.
How much money are we talking about total between the deals you've looked into?
Well, we had access to only one financial account that Hunter Biden.
And we know there are others because there's money being transferred to other Biden accounts.
Over a 14-month period in this one account, you had $3.1 million from the Ukrainians, a million from the Chinese.
You had $1.2 million from this mysterious LLC coming from a Swiss bank account.
You had $145,000 from this Kazakh oligarch.
This is just one bank account.
So we are talking about large sums of money, and we don't know.
And the problem, of course, Sean, is that, and Joe Biden knows this, having been in elective office for 40 years, he does not have to disclose his adult children's financial transactions.
And that's what is so troublesome about this, in addition to the very act.
Then let's talk about the legal aspect beyond the appearance of impropriety and what seems like a quid pro quo or cashing in on the name, not only the position and name of his father, but...
but cashing in on a spectacular level and actually on the public's dime.
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
And, you know, let's be clear about this.
We talked about this.
Is it related to the Clinton Foundation?
And it certainly applies here with Joe Biden's son.
Bribery is not just giving money to the politician.
If you give money to a politician's charity, if you give money to a politician's kid and get favors in return, that constitutes bribery according to the international bribery standards that, ironically, Hillary Clinton signed on to in 2011 as Secretary of State.
So it doesn't matter that it involves his son.
It still constitutes bribery if favors were given.
And I think if you look at Joe Biden's posture towards China, and I highlight this in the book and other people have commented on it, he got very soft with China.
He tended to be a little bit more hawkish in the 80s and in the 90s and the 2000s.
Once he became vice president, when the Chinese tried to exert control of the South China Sea on trade issues, on currency manipulation, on human rights, he became very, very soft.
And the only plausible explanation in my mind is that his son was doing these deals.
There's four deals that we found with the Chinese government during these last couple of years of the vice presidency.
So I think this is precisely the sort of thing that needs to be investigated.
There is far more evidence of a troubling series of transactions here than there ever was anything constituting collusion with Russia.
So this is crying out for some kind of investigation by the DOJ, by a grand jury, or by some entity to really go through and look at all the financial records that Hunter Biden would have related to this.
Well, is it just Hunter?
Do we know if any of the money went back to Crazy Uncle Joe?
We don't.
What we do know is that there are some LLCs in this account that came out in this court case that are transferring money to an LLC with the name Biden on it.
I would assume that it's Hunter Biden's, but there's no way of knowing.
But at the end of the day, whether it's going directly to Joe or to Hunter, ultimately doesn't matter, Sean.
It still constitutes bribery and a favor done if the Chinese were getting something in return.
I think the evidence in that account is pretty troubling.
Yeah, I think it is too.
Any other trips that, well, we don't have time for it now, but I want to remain focused on this because follow the money with a lot of these politicians.
Crazy, you know, Mr. All-American, everyday guy, Joe Biden, I take Amtrak, seems to have cashed in big time like the Clintons on a lot of this, and we'll continue to cover it.
And what you hear from Peter Schweitzer now will probably take a year for the media to catch up with.
That's usually the pattern.
Peter, thanks for being with us.
Great work as usual.
Thanks, Sean.
Appreciate it.
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News Roundup, Information Overload Hour.
This Jussie Smollett thing is now imploding and exploding into something new.
Now the feds are involved, and he's talking about suing the city, and the city's talking about him paying them back.
And Rush Limbaugh and Hannity tonight.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
I know so many responding, reacting.
You'd never heard this tape of Joe Biden, which is funny because we played it a lot.
But all right, by popular demand, we'll play some of it again here.
As they say in my business, I'm going to give you the whole load today.
We got the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy.
I mean, that's a story.
You're telling me we got to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?
The answer, yeah, to a ton.
If you don't know my state, my state was a slave state.
My state is a border state.
My state is the eighth largest black population in the country.
My state is anything from a Northeast liberal state.
You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
I'm not joking.
Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be Vice President of the United States of America.
Let's get that straight.
And quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me.
So let me say it again.
Thank you, Terry.
And thank you, Dr. Pepper.
And thank you, Chancellor, Dr. Paper.
Romney wants to let the, he said in the first hundred days, he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules.
Unchain Wall Street.
They're going to put you all back in chains.
Think about what happened out in where Gabby Difford, my good friend, was shot and mortally wounded.
Well, I say they're going to start to see unemployment grow this spring.
It's going to take employment grow.
I'm sorry.
Number one job facing the middle class.
And it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs.
J-O-B-S jobs.
Chuck Graham, state senators here.
Chuck, stand up, Chuck.
Good to see you.
Oh, God love you.
What am I talking about?
I tell you what, you're making everybody else stand up, OPAL.
Now is the time to heed the timeless advice from Teddy Roosevelt.
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
End of quote.
I promise you, the president has a big stick.
I promise you.
I stopped in Singapore to meet with a guy named Lee Kuan Yew, who most foreign policy experts around the world say is the most, the wisest man in the Orient.
Yeah, that's Joe Biden, creepy, crazy Uncle Joe.
Now, you know, there is this thing about him, all the pictures of him, he like grabs everybody.
Like, ugh, weird.
I'm not saying anything bad about it.
I'm just saying it just happens a lot.
And he is pretty crazy.
All right, news roundup and the latest out of Chicago, Rush Limbaugh and Hannity tonight.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
Smallatt was very clear with police on the night of the attack that his attackers were white.
He said they had masks on and gloves, but he saw their eyes and he saw the skin surrounding their eyes.
Was that a false statement?
So just to be clear, he only saw one of the attackers, one of them he didn't see.
He saw one through a ski mask.
Again, he could not see their body.
Everything was covered, and he had a full ski mask on except the area around the eyes.
He did tell police that he, from what he saw, he thought it was pale skin or white or pale skin, was I think what he said.
And that was what he, and that's why he initially did have a hard time.
Why did he say that?
He could have said, I don't know.
He could have, but this, again, he's being truthful.
But if it's the Osindiro brothers, what are the chances that that's the case, that he saw somebody with light skin?
Well, you know, I mean, I think there's obviously you can disguise that.
You could put makeup on.
There is actually, interestingly enough, a video.
You know, I think police said minimal investigation in this case.
It was, it took me all of five minutes to Google.
You know, I was looking up the brothers, and one of the first videos that showed up actually was one of the brothers in white face doing a joker monologue with white makeup on.
And so it's not, it's not implausible.
All right, news roundup information overload hour.
This is really beginning to blow up in a very big way.
This Justice Mullet case, now they're in full damage control mode, and the state's attorney in Cook County, woman by the name of Kim Fox, well, Fox News has dug up a letter on this woman saying in an email to her fellow employees, we're looking for examples of cases, felony preferable, where we, in exercising our discretion,
have entered into verbal agreements with defense attorneys to dismiss charges against an offender if certain conditions were met.
Nobody's in trouble.
We're just looking for further examples of how we as prosecutors use our discretion in a way that restores the victim.
I'm not sure who sent it, but Fox recused herself from the case last February, but defended her office's handling in an alternative prosecution model.
So in other words, you have the attorney in this case, Kim Fox.
Remember, she had the other correspondence with Michelle Obama's friend because a former Michelle Obama chief of staff texted the prosecutor.
Now she's released a statement, which is getting pretty interesting and now taking it to another level.
And she has just spoke to police superintendent Eddie Johnson.
I convinced him to reach out to the FBI to ask that they take over the investigation.
He's reaching out and will now get back to me shortly.
Really?
Well, we saw how passionate the superintendent was of the Chicago Police Department, Eddie Johnson.
I thought he's been amazing throughout this.
Rahm Emanuel now is looking in and adding up the cost of the police effort and time that they put into this.
A lot of anger all over Chicagoland.
Anyway, Jonathan Gillam is with us, former FBI agent, Federal Air Marshal, author of The Best Seller Sheep, No More, Danielle McLaughlin, attorney constitutional expert.
Look, I got to believe that, and to add two other things here, Trump said the DOJ and the FBI are now investigating this case.
And add one other piece of information.
The Trump-appointed U.S. attorney has jurisdiction over the Smollett case.
And that decision now, in this particular case, rests in the hands of John Laus, Chicago's U.S. attorney, who was handpicked by Trump.
I don't think we've heard the last of this case.
And while maybe Smollett is contemplating suing the city of Chicago, I don't think that's going to go very far.
Danielle McLaughlin.
I agree with you, Sean.
Good afternoon, and thanks for having me.
You know, the feds are going to look into this for a couple of reasons.
The first being mail or wire fraud and this alleged hoax.
If there was a text message or a call or an email where this was being set up, if it was in fact a setup, that's going to be a violation of federal law.
And the second piece relates to whether there was any quid pro quo or any corrupt behavior in the dropping of the charges against Mr. Smollett.
Not clear that that's true right now, but I think across the board, there's a concern here that he got one kind of justice which might not be meted out for the rest of us.
And it's important that we all believe that the rule of law applies to all of us equally, I think.
Yeah, what's your take, Jonathan?
Well, I think, of course, I agree with what Danielle's saying 100%.
I also think, though, that they need to look at Jesse Jackson's nonprofit where he worked for 16 hours, or Smollett went and served his community service for 16 hours.
And because of the, see, all of the relationship that these people have with each other is something that is very interesting because of the way they're exploiting each other's credentials and positions of power in order to do a favor for this guy when this is a hate crime.
I mean, favors happen all the time.
We talk about the schools, we talk about all these things.
But in this case, where a violent hate crime was alleged and the entire thing was a setup, that's what really does extend this to a bigger, bigger deal.
Well, I agree, and I just think now that the feds are involved, there's no way this guy is not going to be charged again.
Now, remember, we have a lot of evidence in this case that is already on the record.
You have two people that are willing to admit to being involved in the fake hate crime hoax.
We also have videotape of them buying the very items that were purported to have been used in the alleged incident.
Danielle seems pretty damning to me.
And on top of that, then they had the issue of powder mailed to Smollett's house and reports that he may have done it himself.
I would think that forensically that's going to be pretty easy to determine.
Yeah, I mean, apparently the white powder was crushed up aspirin, and that happened a couple of months before this alleged hate crime.
I will say that with prosecution, whether you're a federal prosecutor or a state prosecutor, there is discretion, right?
So if you're a young offender and you've never done anything wrong, often you'll get diversion instead of being gone to trial.
Even corporations, when they're being investigated by the federal government, sometimes they'll get prosecution deferred for a number of years.
Actually, this happened with Facebook.
So if Facebook keeps its nose clean for three years, then there won't be a prosecution.
If they step a foot wrong, there will be.
But that said, I think the fundamental problem here is this was an alleged hate crime.
And these things are happening and they're happening more and more.
And so I think the discretion really probably should have not gone this way because these are such terrible things that happen every day to people who are the most vulnerable in society.
And I think that that was a bad decision.
Well, when you think of the amount of resources that the police threw into this case, and it also revolves around Trump hatred and rage, the psychotic rage of the media, everybody wanted to believe Jussie Smollett's story immediately without any vetting whatsoever.
Just like the media wanted to believe that Nicholas Sandman and the Covington High School kids, you know, in Nicholas's case, wearing a Make America Great Again hat, Jonathan, that, ah, look at what he did to this Native American.
And, you know, they smeared this kid.
They slandered this kid.
I mean, it was a vicious, vicious, unbridled attack against a 16-year-old.
And guess what?
They were wrong the whole freaking time.
Now, they're going to lose in court because Lynn Wood is going to destroy these media companies for what they did to that kid.
But case after case, time after time, rush to judgment, no due process, no presumption of innocence.
Yeah, you know, hate crimes happen all the time.
And in this case, I think one of the biggest things that really needs to be looked at is the news behind the news.
You know, quite often we see these stories, and there's other things that we can take from this.
And one of them is that people have to start slowing down in their judgment.
I'm talking about the court of public opinion.
People cannot be swayed by these fake news outlets when they report these salacious things or report things in a very salacious manner before they're figured out completely.
They say it was a MAGA hat wearing white guy, then they're going to report that and everybody's going to react.
We need to slow down and look at these things and realize that the media is not held to the standard that the court system is held to.
So they can tell things that aren't exactly true.
That's the first thing.
The other thing is, Sean.
Well, the thing is, Justice Smollett is a public figure, right?
The standard is so high because you've got to prove malice and intent.
And it's almost an impossible standard.
You'd agree with that as a lawyer, right, Danielle?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Yeah, with defamation or libel slander to bring a case like that against a public figure.
And that's why when people slander me all the time, I basically have no recourse.
None.
Pretty much.
Pretty much, I'm afraid to say.
But Nicholas Sandman does.
Well, yeah, as a private citizen, the standard for proving a case of a slander or libel is much lower.
And the question becomes, was what was reported just opinion?
Did they, you know, what was the language that they used?
It's not necessarily a slam dunk, but what I could see happening is enough pressure being put on media organizations that they settle before it goes to court because they don't want a bad result.
But, you know, we'll watch it and we'll see, right?
We'll watch and we'll wait and we'll see.
All right, well, Danielle, we're going to let you go.
Jonathan stays with us.
Jonathan Gillum, we appreciate it.
We'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll tell you about an event he's going to be a part of.
And at the bottom of the half hour, we've got a lot to get to, including, well, an interesting, fascinating movie that's coming out.
All right, as we continue, Jonathan Gillum remains with us.
And by the way, he is joining live PD for an event in Missouri taking place this weekend, this Saturday, March 30th, along with Officer Craig Mile.
And this is about support of our police departments, law enforcement all around the country.
And, you know, one of the things that I know a lot of people in the FBI have been saying to me is thank you for separating us, the field agents, the rank and file, from those people that did things that we knew they should never do and they should have known they should have never been involved in.
Anyway, welcome both of you back to the program.
Officer Craig Mile, let's start with you.
Tell us about the event.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
The event is Saturday from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m.
We've got officers from all different agencies that have appeared on Live PD.
Our agency is going to be there.
Jonathan is going to be there with us as well.
We've got Sheriff Liam from Pinal County, all the way from Triple Moreno.
And we're excited to engage the community and to be a positive role model for our youth in our area.
We've got food vendors.
We've got trucks with big LED TVs that are popping out of the back of them.
And it's at a private hangar, Aus Air Hangar here in Springfield.
And we're just excited to partner with some of our local businesses here and show support for our community and just to engage everybody.
Let me go to Jonathan.
Jonathan, look, you've been obviously all around law enforcement your whole adult life.
And for you, I'm sure that this is an important event.
And, you know, I will tell you, every time there's one bad cop, unfortunately, all of law enforcement gets smeared in the process.
But, you know, where would we be without those guys?
And think of what, you know, every stop a cop is involved in or law enforcement is involved in, they're putting their life at risk.
There's no other way to put it.
That's what they do every day.
Yeah, I don't think people realize the lethality of their job.
And, you know, we honor the troops for their service.
I was a SEAL.
We should honor troops for service.
But every day these cops go out, they're literally deploying sometimes in a war zone.
And last year, we lost over 140 cops in the line of duty.
So, you know, it's incredible how much effort it takes for these individuals to go out there and not only enforce the laws, not only police the locations, but save lives and be an integral part of the public, which James Craigma, Officer Craig Milan, everybody is going to be doing this weekend when they are receiving the pressure that they have on a daily basis from activists and politicians and laws that are being twisted to go against them.
So it's remarkable.
I think if people come out or if they see an officer and they show support, all the officers can tell you that it means a tremendous amount.
I think it does.
And I think having the support of people.
But anyway, so you have people in attendance from a lot of different places.
I know Pinal County Sheriff Office is sending people there and Utah and Georgia and other places like Missouri and El Paso.
And, you know, so you got a lot of people there.
How do people get into this event?
And what time is it?
And, you know, how do other people that maybe can't attend?
What can they do?
Yeah, the event is really easy to get to.
It's off of one of our major streets up here.
It's actually our old airport system, which is now owned by Expedia.
It's at a private hangar called Oz Air Charter.
It's the same area where we fly whenever the presidents come in.
All the presidents come in this area.
It's free to attend.
Anybody can come.
We have people flying from Canada to Florida, California, East Coast to West Coast.
And then parking is free.
The only thing that would end up costing somebody is if they want to eat at the event, and we've got food trucks to cover that.
The officers are all accessible.
We are going to be walking around talking to people, shaking hands, taking pictures with people.
This is our third or fourth event that we've had like this at Greene County.
So this is our biggest.
This is the biggest community event, I think, probably in this area with a little over 4,600 people going to be joining us Saturday.
So it's from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m.
We're going to have the live PD show starting at 8 o'clock prior to that.
That's on A ⁇ E, right?
That's on A ⁇ E with Dan Abrams.
That is correct.
Yes.
All right, guys.
Thanks so much.
I hope a lot of people get out there.
Thank you all for being with us, and we wish you the best in our thoughts and prayers with every law enforcement official in the country.
Coming April 4th and 6th only.
Palau, the movie.
Celebrating the legacy of Luis Palau, the true life story of evangelist Luis Palau from his humble beginnings in Argentina to an encounter with Billy Graham that would launch his global ministry and fulfill a God-given vision.
God chose to send me to share his good news with millions around the world.
Palau, the movie, featuring an exclusive message from Luis Palau in theaters for two days only, April 4th and 6th.
For tickets and showtimes, go to PalauTheMovie.com.
All right, PalautheMovie.com.
You know, I know a lot of you on this program, we love movies that Hollywood doesn't do.
We like different.
I've been saying the golden era, the golden age of Hollywood is dead, gone, and buried.
And one of the reasons for this is, you know, everything in terms of communications moves so fast.
There are now so many options and choices available for people.
Well, it has now brought a new level of creativity to movie making where Hollywood always used to get to decide on their own.
Well, okay, maybe we'll have Jennifer Aniston fall in love for the fourth thousandth time with a different guy, break up, then get back together, then marry, and then somebody dies or something like that.
I mean, how many more times can we see the same movie and one variation thereof?
Or, you know, I guess Superman and Spider-Man and Batman and Batwoman, you know, okay, the comic series of everybody is, it's all great, and I like all the Star Wars movies, but when I go to a movie, I want to be touched.
I want to learn something.
I want one of the things I've learned being three hours a day on radio, one hour a day on television, is the two most powerful forms of communication are not radio and TV.
You know, it's music and it's also movies.
You know, I'd sit in the back of a movie theater when Let There Be Light came out and literally watch people sobbing at a level you just can't believe.
That for me was success because that was a whole point to see if you can touch people's hearts.
And movies do it all the time.
There are certain songs you play me a song and I'm just, you know, wow.
It just hits you right in your solar plexus and it just, it's amazing.
But, you know, when you think of Amazon Prime and you think of Netflix and you think of, you know, 500 channels and on-demand this and Hulu.
And I mean, you have more choices, options than ever before.
And that means the networks don't have the power they once did.
Thank God.
That's why Fox News on Big News Night, we beat all of the networks regularly.
They did a special the other night on Mueller and the investigation.
Hannity, our show, thanks to all of you, we beat them like three to one, and they're on a network.
PalauTheMovie.com, just to give you a little synopsis, this is an amazing movie.
I found out about this from Linda.
It talks about a 10-year-old kid, and obviously it's named after him, Palau.
Luis Palau is his name, and how the family has changed forever.
Within a few years of the father's death, Luis, his siblings, his mother, they're destitute.
And Luis is forced to discontinue his education at an elite boarding school in Argentina, provide for his family as they slip into poverty.
By the way, I go back to my grandfathers.
They were poor, nothing.
They arrive in America with not a penny.
No government help either.
And then anyway, in the years that follow, you're on this journey with Luis.
He devotes his life to God.
He begins to preach.
He launches a radio show, and he's ultimately invited to the United States to study, become a missionary.
And his decision to study in the U.S. is, you know, obviously not easy.
He's got to leave his family, his mom behind, his sisters behind, but he's following what his heart is calling him to do.
During seminary school, he's encouraged to plant churches and teach.
And, you know, he's still a child.
Then he gets a vision from God about good news and about the gospels.
And to fulfill the vision, he's got to overcome a lot of challenges.
By the way, life's not easy.
Read the book, The Road Last Traveled.
It starts, life is hard.
You recognize that fundamental truth and you start realizing life can be easier just by seeing that truth.
Anyway, to fulfill this vision, you go on this journey with him.
An unexpected encounter with Billy Graham at one point.
Look, I don't want to give away the whole story.
Luis Palau, the movie.com, is really worth your time.
And, you know, it's Gaston Paul's or Gaston, if I'm going to use the proper pronunciation.
Paul's, you play the older Palau.
Yes, you're right.
So you played the older version.
And also with us here, we have Santiago Ashaga.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, and you play the younger one.
So this is a real life story, right?
Yes, yes.
It's Luis's life.
And through Luis's life, we talk about hope.
We talk about God.
We talk about love.
In this particular moment of the world, we need to talk about that.
And through all those words and through Luis, we talk about God, our relationship with God, with second chances in life.
And it's an honor for us.
It's tough for any kid to lose their dad at 10, right?
Yes, of course.
And then to be pulled out of a boarding school, have to go to work for your family.
That's actually the story of my father.
Really?
My father's mother died after childbirth, three months after she gave birth due to complications of that.
And his family had no money.
I mean, when talk about dirt poor, it was real.
I always say I stand on the shoulders of my parents and my grandparents.
Santiago, how did you like, what did this movie do for you and mean for you?
Oh, this was huge for me.
Like my relationship with my father, this is one of the most important things that I have.
In fact, probably the most important thing.
When I read the script, something was like really important to me.
I realized then when he lost his father, something, when I read that, something hit me.
Like, I said, I need to do this.
Like, I was so, so amazed with the relationship they had.
And it's this particular scene that I had in the movie.
His dad is already gone, but he starts to remember the things his dad tell him.
And he remember him like in the theater, like seeing this movie about a lot of things they talk about.
And I was reading this scene on the bus going to work and I started crying like a little baby.
So at that moment, I realized like this was for me.
This was a message that I need to communicate to people.
Not just about like the relationship.
It's about love.
It's about a message.
Let me bring in because Luis Palau is actually on our phone right now.
And also joining us is Rebecca Hubble, who helped put this project together.
By the way, you work with people like Mel Gibson over the years, correct?
Yes.
Well, you can answer that.
I have.
Shaking your heads on.
That's how we met.
Yes, that's how we met.
And how long have you known Mel?
Because I think he's one of the best movie makers in Hollywood by far.
A few years, working on some projects.
With Mel.
Yes, yes.
Luis Palau, what a life you've lived.
I don't know how old you are now.
How old are you?
I'm an old guy, man.
I'm 84.
I could be.
But, you know, I mean, it was a pretty brave journey you've had.
And the trials, the tribulations, the leap of faith that you've had.
Your life story is very inspiring.
Have you seen the movie yet?
You know, I have seen snippets of it.
I haven't seen the final product.
I'm as eager as you are to see it.
And I've always felt like I've known you, Sean, because I watch you on television.
And I like the quotation that you quote often, let not your hearts be troubled.
That helped me when I was a kid.
That was exactly, it's in John chapter 14 when my father died.
And I said to my mom as a boy, when did he go?
Will we see him again?
And she said, yes, we'll see him again when our turn comes to go to heaven.
Don't let your hearts be troubled.
You believe in God, believe also in me.
So every time you quote that and closing some of your shows, I think, I'm one with Sean.
One of these days I'm going to meet him.
And at least on the air, here we meet.
And I thank you so much.
It was a beautiful life.
I've lived it over.
Now my sons are following in that direction.
I'm so excited that your dad and grandfather went through similar situations because we've had it so beautiful.
And now the latest generation has not suffered as much as some of our forefathers did.
And I happen to because I'm an old guy.
You know something?
I will tell you this.
I always say every time I want to whine in life or complain in life, and I don't let my kids get away with that either.
Because they had it so much harder.
What you went through is so much harder.
But in the end, it defines you.
Like if you take away people's struggles in life, and that's what I don't like about socialism, because you're literally robbing them of the opportunity to dig down deep within themselves and pull out stuff that they never thought was possible or even knew existed within them.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I agree with you, you know, and that the answers, basic answers in life, if you have a God-centered life, you have a pathway to follow, and you can actually overcome all these obstacles and even make it a stepping stone to encourage other people.
And that's what I've been trying to do all my life, Sean, just to help other people who are going through tough times rather than complain and blame somebody else.
Look, look to God.
He has a plan.
Work it out.
Work hard.
God will open doors, you know.
So that's why I'm excited.
All right, Rebecca, I'm going to give you the last word on this and how people can now see this movie.
How many theaters are we starting in?
We have 300 in the United States and 1,100 in Latin America.
Wow.
It's a movie to honor Luis's legacy at this season.
You know, he's been so influential around the world.
And we're doing this.
All of the proceeds go to the Palau Association.
Every ticket sale, every DVD sale, everything goes to the project.
Because this is a non-profit.
Non-profit.
Absolutely.
Everything goes.
So we're asking everybody to come out and support this project.
And it's PalauTheMovie.com.com.
Yes.
Luis, thank you.
God bless you.
And it's an honor to talk to you.
And Gaston, thank you.
Thank you.
And I think, San Diego, you got a future in the movies.
You're pretty.
Santiago's a good-looking kid.
Thank you very much.
Well, I hope so in here in the U.S. All right.
Well, welcome to the United States.
You're always welcome.
Thank you very much.
PalautheMovie.com.
Quick break, right back.
We'll load it up tonight.
Hannity on the Fox News channel, the latest on crazy, you know, cowardly shift himself.
And here's more of what Kevin McCarthy said.
Everybody's now aligning.
He has to go.
Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election.
Special Counsel Mueller's findings are consistent with those of this committee, as well as the public statements of various senators on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
Despite these findings, you continue to proclaim to the media that there is significant evidence of collusion.
You further have stated you will continue to investigate the counterintelligence issues.
That is, is the president or people around him compromised in any way by hostile foreign power?
Your willingness to continue to promote a demonstrably false narrative is alarming.
The findings of the special counsel conclusively refute your past and present assertions and have exposed you as having abused your position to knowingly promote false information, having damaged the integrity of this committee and undermined the faith in the United States government institutions.
Your actions, both past and present, are incompatible with your duty as chairman of this committee, which alone in the House of Representatives has the obligation and authority to provide effective oversight of the U.S. intelligence community.
As such, we have no faith in your ability to discharge your duties in a manner consistent with your constitutional responsibility and urge your immediate resignation as chairman of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, this letter is signed by all nine members of the Republican side of the House, of the committee, and I ask you to consider be entered into the record of today's hearing.
The Democrats have wasted their majority.
Does Adam Schiff truly believe he knows something more than Moeller?
That 40 FBI agents, 19 attorneys, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 witnesses, looking into 13 different countries and saying no collusion at all, he needs to resign from the committee.
There is a difference here drastically.
One member lied to the American public.
One member told the truth and was attacked for it.
Now that the truth is told that Chairman Nunes was correct and truth is told that Adam Schiff lied to the American public, continued to lie up until March of this year.
No, I think Speaker and I should get together and review Schiff.
She doesn't need me to get together with her to do it.
She can do it today.
And he is chairman of the Intel Committee.
This is the committee that sees things that the majority of members do not get to know.
How can you trust that individual?
He has an entire one side of the committee that has no trust in it at all.
How can he research anything?
How can we stand up against our enemies and trust what is being done if Adam Schiff lied to us for two years?
How can their own Democrats stand behind what he says?
He didn't even apologize.
Does he think he knows more than Moeller?
We've watched somebody in this body do this before.
Senator Joe McCarthy had a gavel, who accused people of communism.
When people stood up to him, he attacked them, their own members.
We made a commitment in Congress that we would not allow that to continue.
And we've got Rush Limbaugh, Don Jr., and an opening monologue that will absolutely crush things on a new level because we have the Nelli Orr closed door session.
And wow, this was worse than we thought.
All right, that's coming up tonight at 9.
We'll see you then back here Friday edition tomorrow.
